1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, the should that takes 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: and culture. Start with headline news and didnt journey to 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: in every single story. Your hosts Marts's white dad dude, 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: and today let's chop up some wood, starting wood. What's 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: up with that, dude, Let's do it. Man. Lazy night 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: last night, even though I had to pack a spring break. 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: So it's me and the fan damn about to jump 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: on the plane and head to h a Wa. Remember 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: that makes you? Please stop smoking? La puff? Why try? 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm yeah, I'm heading out to Hawaiire. Oh. I 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: love it out there, man, as soon as you land 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: and all that Lee and Mona Lali whatever the hell 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: they they saying the spelling. I love it, oh man, 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: that's a different part of America. Say it for real. 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: You don't even feel like you're in America. You're like, 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: y'all lying the hell y'all America. It took me, first 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: of all, five hours to get out here, three hour 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: time different from Stacific time zone. And I'm just so 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: relaxed like this is not the American way. Nowhere else 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: in the continental US. Still I feel that relaxed. It's 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: just the music that you could layle in them. Oh 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: the little ladies be sitting there. I don't know what 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: the hell they be wearing. It's fresh sto right. Oh man, 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: it's so good. Respect to the culture, respect to how 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: they just make you feel so welcome. And then you 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: go shopping, then you go to McDonald's, and then you 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: go find out damn they charging they out here in 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 1: taxing for all this relaxation got It's expensive of Hawaiian man. 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it, but they get 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: it done. So I was just packing last night, getting 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: it right. Kitty stayed up a little late. Wife went 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: out to a dinner. I tease and say she got 35 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: a boyfriend. But she's just working a little bit and 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: doing her dinners and all that stuff. So it's fun 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: to watch and she's living her best life right now. 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here just being daddy plus daddy duty 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: plus it's all good. Um. I had one task last night. 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: I was gonna actually tackle my forty text messages, yes 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: four zero text messages that I haven't responded to in weeks. 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: I am this guy. I see all texts. I'm sorry, 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: y'all if I don't respond, it's just because either I'm 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: busy or I have something else that I prioritize. That 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm busy. It's just like something else more 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: important to your ass. It's for real. And I see 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: them all. I look. I was like, oh, I could 48 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: hit them back, because sometimes if you hit somebody right back, 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: they hit you right back. Next thing, you know, you're 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: not doing what you're physically able to do in your locale, 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: right where you are you supposed to be doing something. 52 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: But then you check your phone. Oh let me, let 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: me hit George back. And you hit George back, and 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: then you see the bubble as soon as you hit sin, 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: You're like, dog, you gotta, you know, space this out. 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Then you're going back and forth. And that's five ten minutes. 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: And that's just one dude, one text message change. And 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I got forty of these things plus oh man, so 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: look at me, poor me. I know y'all all go 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: through the same thing. That's why I bring these things up. 61 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: It's hilarious. We all do it, like damn if I 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: hit him right back. He's gonna hit me right back. 63 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: But if I hit him right back, he gonna take 64 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: his time. So that's cool because then it's on him. 65 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, but last night I can't do either. 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: I ain't hit nobody back. I just stared at that 67 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: number four zero. All right, let's get into the show today. 68 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: This topic might be the entire show, but I'm gonna 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: try and break it up in pieces. I saw a 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: headline Stephen Ain take shot but at independent creators on 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: the internet. Really did he while literally being in their 72 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: world like on the internet. It's crazy? Oh man, let's 73 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: talk about this. This is still spurned from that Dan 74 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Lebotard interview. That was provocative. That was great. It's good 75 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: to see when you, you know, see two friends who 76 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: are also peers who've also went through the journey and 77 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: experienced together major media mass media, right, and also now 78 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: one seems fully engulfed in the independent space, Dan Lebotard, right, 79 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: even though he's still major and he's still got major 80 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: brands and sponsorships. And then Stephen Ay, who still major 81 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: mass media, but at the same time there's a reason 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: why he has a podcast as well, and he has 83 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: major support as well. The first thing I want everyone 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: to understand is we need to stop with the slander. 85 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Let's stop. Let's start there. Stop with the slander. Let's 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: start there, because I'm noticing that everyone is trying to 87 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: find their factions and find their grouping in place. Blame 88 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: all these same traits and attributes that human beings have 89 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: been doing for thousands and thousands of years, and it 90 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: usually comes from fear and anxiety security. Let's talk about it. 91 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Have you noticed all the labels Okay, major mass media, right, 92 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying it, and then you got podcast creators and 93 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: independent creators, you know, click bait, and then debaters and 94 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: embracing debate, et cetera. All these labels and associations right 95 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: to group people because someone has to be blamed for 96 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: whatever is changing the evolution of this media. That's what's 97 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: happening right here. So now, since we're trying, we're trying 98 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: to label these things and trying to make associations with 99 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: these things because really we're just trying to figure out 100 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: where do we fit and where is it going. We 101 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: have to put a face to it. We gotta put 102 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: names to it, right, we gotta blame somebody, right, This 103 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: is changing because they did that. This is changing because 104 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: they are in charge, and that's not fair to stephen A. 105 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: Stephen A is the face of media, but he's not 106 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: the cause of whatever you want to say. The issue 107 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: with media are those issues. A lot of us put 108 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: our hands in the middle of that huddle and say break. 109 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: A lot of us contributed to that play. A lot 110 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: of us contributed to that world. And I'm gonna walk 111 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: you through this in terms of the experience, let's start here. 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: He's not the reason sports television seems to be in 113 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: least in taste, opinion, even ratings in decline. Let's be real. 114 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: It's in decline because there are more options. It's in 115 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: decline because that's a model that has been tried and 116 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: tested and it's true, but it's probably run its course 117 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: in terms of the way that they're doing it. In spirit, 118 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: have two people and it's formulaic, right, two people. You 119 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, you get a list of topics, 120 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: and we go through those topics and we say which 121 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: ones do you agree upon? And you agree up on 122 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: knees right. You agree on these and you put them 123 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: to the left, and then you say, which ones do 124 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: you disagree with and you put them to the right 125 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: and you're like, those are the ones we're gonna talk about, 126 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: and maybe we throw one of those in there from 127 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: the ones you agree on, and that's it, and we 128 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: just go right and you're like, damn, that's how they 129 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, they don't make you make up an answer. Now. 130 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: I have been in rooms before where I've even said, look, 131 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm on the fence, so i could go either way. 132 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: That's as close as you get to it being a 133 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: fake or not authentic. It's never marcellus, do you think 134 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is great or sorry? I think he's great. Well, 135 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: can you go on there and say he's sorry? No, 136 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: never through that. But if you're like, yeah, I hate 137 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: to whoever you're talking about, they'll say, oh, can you 138 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: argue he's sorry And you're like, well, yeah, because I 139 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: think he's kind of eys not great, he's not sorry. 140 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: I can gotta lean this way because I'm on the fence. 141 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: That's as fake as it gets. I've never seen it 142 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: faker than that. Just f y. Okay. So now let's 143 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: talk about Stephen A. Smith, since he's the face of 144 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: all this, because he makes the most, because he's the 145 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: biggest and baddest. Right, he passed, skip up, he passed 146 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: calling up. I mean, let's be real, who who makes 147 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: more than him doing what he does? No one, nobody? 148 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: Twelve million reported, right. But then he's in a place 149 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: where he's taking all the hits because if the industry 150 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: is in suppression, if the industry is in decline, then 151 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: the face of it has to take the hits, has 152 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: to take the blame. Right, So we're blaming stephen A 153 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: for something, even though stephen A started with nineteen ninety 154 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: three journalists worked his butt office. He says, I'm a 155 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: black man with a resume. Don't know what the hell 156 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: black got to do with that, but he's a black 157 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: man with a resume, Like you got a resume is 158 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: all good and you're at the top. So I don't 159 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: understand the black part, but it's all good. He says that, 160 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: and knows are his words. And he also says that 161 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: people don't deserve of a seat at the table that 162 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: don't have that resume. That are clickbaters, that are the 163 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: independent creators, and that's where the problems lie. People hold 164 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: on to theirs, you know, tightly, you know, they hold 165 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: onto it in desperation, and stephen A is still holding 166 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: on to his position as the king on the throne, 167 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: and in that attempt to hold on to that, let's 168 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: be real, he's noticing that things are changing, right, that 169 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: they are taking shots at the throne. They are throwing 170 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: rocks at his crown, and some of them are connecting why. 171 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: And I'm so blessed to be on both sides of this, 172 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: if not all sides of this, there's probably more than 173 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: just two because I was that guy. I was stephen A. Smith. 174 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: I remember working with him first time ever. We were 175 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: on the Best Down Sports Show, I think in two 176 00:09:53,880 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: thousand and one. Yeah, he left me behind, been co hosting, 177 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: co hosting, co host Go get it, stephen Ay, I 178 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: love it. The thing is stephen A knows that now 179 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: he has to have a toe in this independent space 180 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: and he noticed it because his bosses told him he 181 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: had to have it. Let's talk about this transition, because 182 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: there was a day and I remember it when ESPN, 183 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: where I was working at the time, placed a big 184 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: bet and I wouldn't say an early bet, but it 185 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: was a big bet because it was major media saying 186 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: we have to lean into social media and at that time, 187 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: it was Twitter, like everyone get on Twitter, and everyone 188 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: go on Twitter and just try to get you a 189 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: fan base and get people to watch the shows, and 190 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, give them a little behind the scenes peaks 191 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: at your life and content. And obviously Skip Bayless ran 192 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: with that, like Skip Bayless literally would tweet out his 193 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: show and then go on there and do the show 194 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: and people who were watching it, right, So it worked, 195 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: But they didn't bet on the independent space and turns 196 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: of content creation at that time. I think that caught 197 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: them by surprise. I think major media was caught by surprise. 198 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: How many people would just be at home like me now. 199 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: But then like twenty and thirteen, those early adopters or whatever, 200 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: it's a Joe Rogan twenty seventeen of Pat McAfee, whatever 201 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: it may be. Those guys they didn't think that they 202 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: would go home and actually not only create content, but 203 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: gain such massive audiences greater than the ratings suggests. Let's 204 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: be real, The ratings is tough. Nilsen is still dragging 205 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: their feet, and I don't think they're doing it intentionally, 206 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: but it's kind of hard to curate all this. You 207 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: gotta imagine there's a linear cable stream. Right, there's a 208 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: linear cable watcher and that person sitting at home like, 209 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: oh man, I'm watching ESP and cool and they're getting 210 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: that typical rating. And do you know for like per 211 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: hour the most that people watch, it's fifteen minutes, like 212 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: Peru the most, and that's like an extreme. Ratings obviously 213 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: all across the board are suppressed and down because we 214 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: just got more options, right, and it's probably less interesting 215 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: to watch somebody up there who has a corporate brand 216 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: behind him saying something that you're like, ah, if you're 217 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: with your boys, just said it a little different, right, 218 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: And on the internet you will find that person you 219 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: don't say exactly how you're thinking it. So all across 220 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: the board ratings are down. And so then the bet 221 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: was on Twitter. Then the bet was like on Instagram 222 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: and like make yourself more glam and make yourself more popular, right, 223 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: but the bet wasn't on YouTube. And did y'all notice 224 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden the same show and shows and 225 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: personalities that were on their show. Let's say, first take 226 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all the clips are on YouTube, 227 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the actual hosts the 228 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: coh we're also on YouTube. Now you need a podcast 229 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: to go with your show. Look at that FS one. 230 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: What's what's right with Nick right? Or what's wrong with 231 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: Nick right? Excuse me, M and I love Nick right. 232 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: That dude's beast. What's wrong with Nick right? Right? Uh? 233 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: Skip Bayless show? Clubs Shake Shade right, And that's the 234 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: bet now. And they're heading their beat because they were realizing, Hey, 235 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: everybody's not tuning in to these shows. The ratings at 236 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: FS one, let's use those because I know those because 237 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: I was there last um average viewership for Undisputed the 238 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: biggest show one fifty two hundred thousand, Max whoa clubs 239 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: got a million plus subscribers himself? And those views every 240 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: time I look as millions. Then you you you don't. 241 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: You can't make the apples to apples comparison because you 242 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: would really have to say, what would happen if they 243 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: put Undisputed exclusively on the internet versus Club Sha Sha, 244 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: which is exclusively on the internet. But you get the point, 245 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: like they're like dug, people are tuning in the Clubs 246 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: Sha Shay morning they tune into Undisputed, and remember that's 247 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: only for fifteen minutes. Max guests who knows this advertiser 248 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: sponsors and they're like, ah, we used to bed on 249 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: social media and the social media influencers, and you know, 250 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: we want to move our product not only on commercials, 251 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: but y'all fast forward through commercials, through DVR and TVO, 252 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: and then that changed until let's just put bets on 253 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: like these guys endorsing our product to now they're like, no, 254 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: let them have a podcast, meet them where the people 255 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: are direct to consumer, and then we'll place ads in there, 256 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: or we'll just sponsor the entire podcast. Y'all catching all this, 257 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: it happens fast. Now. When it happens fast to you, 258 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: you're like, what do I do? Where's my next step? 259 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: Where's solid footing for Steve? And they to take these shots. 260 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: You can see not only is he like, yo, I'm 261 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: the big it gets baddest I can take these shots, 262 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: but also I got to plan my next move, and 263 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: I think his next move is what he's doing. He's 264 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: doing the podcast, and you're gonna see more and more effort, 265 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: more and more support, more and more lean into that 266 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: podcast because that's where the people are. Let me take 267 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: you through it all the fears and anxieties, not only 268 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: from these I guess you can call them the networks, 269 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: but also from the actual talent. The networks are sitting 270 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: there like, yo, we own these socials. And this is 271 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: one thing I didn't like. This is one thing in 272 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: my last deal that made me say I have to 273 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: move on. I knew that everything and everyone was going 274 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: to digital, to going to streaming, online, internet, etc. Or 275 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: you could tell because why you offering me to do 276 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: a podcast when you offered me to just do a 277 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: show four years ago? So four years ago my contract 278 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: was just do speak for yourself? And then I was like, 279 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: I want to do radio because I love doing radio. 280 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: I knew Max went to first take dub, but I 281 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: was like, I could do my own radio, or I 282 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: could do it with somebody else, and we want you 283 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: just to be fresh for speak for yourself, So we're 284 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna pay you handsomely just to do one show, all right? 285 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: In no four years that conversation, which because Club Shay 286 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: came out in twenty I think Skip just came out 287 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: last year. Nick Wright came out last year, tons of others, 288 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: and then the next contract, it was like, marcellis you're 289 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: gonna do a podcast? What you just told me? I 290 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: couldn't do radio, and you never even mentioned a podcast 291 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: just four years ago. Are you really looking out for me? 292 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: Are you? Like? Yo? This bottom line is shifting to 293 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: other spaces. Right, So I caught that and I wasn't 294 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: going to be played in that moment, and I don't 295 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: think they were trying to play me. But they also 296 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: weren't being explicit because they owned those socials. Right. You 297 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: can get into a rev share deal, and they offered that, 298 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: but they owned the socials. And to the tune of 299 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: of all these guys that you're talking about, there's one 300 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: that finally went back and I can't say his name 301 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: because I protected guilty, but there was one who went 302 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: back and fought for a percentage of the social media 303 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: accounts and he got a percentage. But they are sitting 304 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: there like, yo, y'all ain't even catching this. All those 305 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: clips money to the network. Now they pay you a 306 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: big handsome check so that you don't even think about 307 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: those things. But you should think about those things, because why, 308 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: that's your independence, that is your money, That is something 309 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: that you own, that's your ip. Like you're doing the 310 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: show and you're putting out all the content, and then 311 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: they have all the ownership, and that's where the rub is. 312 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the security that comes from that big 313 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: fat paycheck to just go up there talk for a 314 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: couple hours and then go home and do it again tomorrow, 315 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: Rinse and Pep, that's what that gives you. Security. But 316 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: you're an employee to the fullest. You don't own the socials. 317 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: You don't own the show. If they want to wake 318 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: up tomorrow like they are NFL Network or ESPN Disney 319 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: and say hey we got layoffs, Bye bye peace. There's 320 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: no layoffs for the YouTuber, right, there's no layoffs for 321 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: the independent creator. He just if he don't want to 322 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: work tomorrow, he doesn't work tomorrow. If he does, he does, right, 323 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: And that's a big difference. So you got the security 324 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: of the network job, and you have also the big 325 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: check that comes with that security. Oh, just comfortable. I 326 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: ain't gotta worry about jack ratings whatever. Y'all figure that out. 327 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying my damn this and that's all I could do. 328 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: But you don't have any and I mean any ownership. 329 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: Not a single soul has a percentage in ESPN, Not 330 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: a single soul owns a percentage of FS one or 331 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Fox stop playing over here. You can own it all, 332 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: but what's one hundred percent of nothing it right? And 333 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: that's the risk of independence. If you don't pop, it 334 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: doesn't work right. You can have all the freedom in 335 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: the world, all the independence in the world, but where's 336 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: the revenue, where's the security? And that's the rub And 337 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: that's why you're seeing all of this new media versus 338 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: old media. You're seeing major mass media and networks versus 339 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: independent creators. That's why you're seeing this cripping blood kind 340 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: of like gang fight right now, and everybody trying to 341 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: really stake their territory. They're trying to do it because 342 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: things are changing. There's an evolution going on right now. 343 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: Let me walk you through how this all started. In 344 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: my eyes, Stephen A is taking these hits unnecessarily because 345 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: Stephen A just climbed to the top of the mountain. 346 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: But how did that mountain get created? I was there 347 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: like day one, Jamie Horowitz look him up if you 348 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: don't know who he is, former ESPN executive and Fox. 349 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: I think he was the president of the Fox F 350 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: one for a minute there, and Jamie Horowitz, good friend. 351 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: I really respected his work, especially day one because he 352 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: took me under his wing and creating shows like First Take, 353 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: Sports Nation, you know, etc. I think he created Undisputed too. 354 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: I want to say yes. Point being, he was like 355 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: the face of embraced debate. Basically, you guys need to 356 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: get up there and we need to have some some contrast. 357 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: Y'all need to go at it. Let's bring the barbershop 358 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: to life, whatever you want to call it. Embrace debate. 359 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: And that took the industry, and that took individuals on 360 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: different roads because it popped. So in the industry, all 361 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you got all these grimlins, right yo yo, Yeah, 362 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: they're popping over there. How are they popping? Well, they're arguing. 363 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: Oh well, let's argue over here. But if it's not 364 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: authentic or you don't have the proper personalities or the 365 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: right chemistry, it's not gonna pop two people arguing what 366 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: y're arguing over. After a certain point, you're like, and 367 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: who is arguing? And then you just start to tune out. 368 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: But it popped, I mean it popped. And I wasn't 369 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: a part of those shows. I would go on First Take, 370 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: I would go on, but that wasn't my spirit. I'm 371 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: not a debater. I'm a discussor. That's why y'all say, damn, 372 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: this dude talk so much. Yeah, because I like to 373 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: discuss stuff. I like to talk. I like to make 374 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: you think and then you chime in and then we 375 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: all get smarter. Right, I'm not sitting here talking at you, 376 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: talking to you. I ain't got all the answers, even 377 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: though I act like it sometimes. But the industry went 378 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: on that road, let's embrace debate, not only with the show, 379 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: but just industry wide, right, and individuals started to figure out, like, yo, 380 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: I gotta really pop. Instead of saying, oh, he's a 381 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: good player, I gotta say, damn it ain't nobody better. 382 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: See the difference. He's a good player. No, he's a 383 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: great player. Damn it ain't nobody better. And that's where 384 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: it all went hot sauce on. Everybody's buried though. So 385 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: then they went those ways, and they placed those bets, 386 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: and they realized that, okay, it's trying to place different 387 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: bets the individuals and the entities. The entities right now 388 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: are looking at everything and saying we gotta get to 389 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: the people, direct to consumer. It's just as simple as that, y'all. 390 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: Hate to say it. It's no other way to look 391 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: at it. And the individuals are starting to come myself included. 392 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: I just frankly said, and I bring it to y'all, raw, 393 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: bring it to y'all. Real. I was making one point 394 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: nine million at FS one and my next deal they 395 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: were offering me like one one that was it was 396 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: probably gonna be a little less haircut. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 397 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: because I was not going to do the same show. 398 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't do speak anymore. M y'all know what speaking 399 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: is now. It's a little ice skating, right, it's a 400 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: little fluffier. They bet on auto as they should. Alto 401 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: is half my age, looks half as good as me. 402 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: Not stop, Oh that's my dollar. He's half my age. 403 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean he wants to do that, and he wants 404 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: to do those type of shows. I wanted to do this, 405 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: and I told them that from Hello, and that's why 406 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: we had to say goodbye. But also that one one 407 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: was going to be like to join first things first, 408 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: so I had to, you know, take some money away. 409 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm like whatever. But the bet was that show has 410 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: three other people, so they were like, yeah, we can't 411 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: pay you the same. I didn't go all the way 412 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: through negotiations. I probably could have got that up a 413 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: little more, but I just I was their initial offer, 414 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: like one one. I was like and I was like yeah, 415 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: And then I realized through just looking at my neighborhood, 416 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: my conversations with people. I know independent creators, I know 417 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: independent creating agencies, and I know people that represent people 418 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: on the internet, and then people that represent them are rich. 419 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: The people on the internet are wealthy. I'm like, dog, 420 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: I got neighbors. Dog, I played a lot of football 421 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: and been in the media for a long time, and 422 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: there's YouTubers in my neighborhoo. Like dog, I'm like, dude, 423 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: what you go by the house at midnight and they 424 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: live in these little content houses and stuff, and they're 425 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: just lights on and they just in there, just plowing 426 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: through stuff. And I'm like, dog, little kids out here eating. 427 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: But I'm not scared of them. You know, you can't 428 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: beat them, join them in that kind of respect. But 429 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: long story short, I saw one point one to whatever 430 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: I was gonna get them up to one three, one 431 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: five and even one nine, and I was like, dog, 432 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: the money not worth staying here if that's the money. 433 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: Because I had felt that no matter how much I 434 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: was gonna make, I can make more here. That was 435 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: the money conversation. Stephen A makes twelve million? WHOA Like, 436 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: First of all, I ain't gonna get to stephen A levels. 437 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: Just be real. I'm not gonna go there, like whatever 438 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: it takes to go there, and there's a certain formula 439 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: for that. You noticed that the top three dogs skip 440 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: stephen A. Colin never played ball, so that means they 441 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: have a different investment. They're invested into journalism. I'm invested 442 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: into the athlete experience and until athletics, professional athletics. Some 443 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: stuff I just don't do. Some stuff I won't say, 444 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: some stuff I won't. I won't go there, and they do. 445 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they go all the way there because they're 446 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: not invested in it the same. Let's just be real, 447 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: And that's the industry rewards that. That's what culture is. 448 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: This culture of sports media rewards that, and that I 449 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: couldn't do. So I was like, I ain't gonna make 450 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: stephen A money. And even if I do, you know, 451 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: must McAfee making good lord. So I take top dog 452 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: to top dogs. That's how I do it, Like apples 453 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: to apples. Who's the top dog on this independent track, 454 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: and who's the top dog on the major mass media track. 455 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: Y'all know what it is, McAfee making three four times 456 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: much as much as stephen A. That's why the industry 457 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: is going where McAfee is. That's why Steven Nay is 458 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: now where McAfee is at least one foot there and 459 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: then the other foot in first take. Damn, that's good. 460 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: That's a balance in that. Now. I should have I 461 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: should have balanced it out like that. But I went 462 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: all in on this. So I just wanted to hip 463 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: y'all to that. I wanted to hip y'all. You hear that, frock. 464 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to hip y'all to that because I think 465 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff right now is up in the 466 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: air in terms of the blame, the labels and who 467 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: is in charge. And I think right now people are 468 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: making money and they're realizing why not have ownership with 469 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: it as well? Right, money and power not just money, 470 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: And even stephen A has coming to that realization, it 471 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: seems like. But taking shots at the independent creators. Stephen 472 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: A is above that and he should stay above that. 473 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: I hope he does, because you're just gonna look weak 474 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: like that's like saying, oh man, our music was better 475 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: than y'all music, like dog whatever you're saying, oh man, 476 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: nobody given them like is it selling? Do people like it? 477 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: You gotta get with the times. And you can see 478 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: by all these moves that others are getting with the times. 479 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: All right, speaking of getting with the times, man doesn't 480 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: seem like Lebron wants to keep up with these times. 481 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm with him too. He ain't paying to be verified 482 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter me either. Damn it, Elon Must, you got 483 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: all my money off your three teslas you sold me. 484 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: I got all them teslas. I ain't spending eight dollars 485 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: a month for no damn blue check mark. You can 486 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: have it. And let's talk about that. Because there's changes 487 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: to the social media platform and Twitter and all those 488 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: legacy accounts. They say, if you want to keep your 489 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: blue badge, you know what you gotta do. You gotta 490 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: start ponying up eight dollars a month. Now. This is 491 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: supposed to start on April first, April fools, right, And 492 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: they say, Elon Must obviously is a jokester. You got 493 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: all that money, damn it, You count anything and anybody. 494 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: It may be just a prank, but Lebron like prank 495 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: or not, No, sir, not me. He's like, quote, well, 496 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: I guess my blue check will be gone soon because 497 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: if you know me, I ain't paying the five man. 498 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: Lebron's crazy and I and with him. What is it 499 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: about the blue check mark. Let's just be real. The 500 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: original reason for the blue check mark was just to 501 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: make sure you know that that is actually the authentic 502 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: person that's supposed to be. Who has a platform, who's 503 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: a celebrity, who's an athlete and entertainer, someone with a 504 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: high profile, right, someone in the public sphere. You supposed 505 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: to know that's him, and Lebron needs to know that 506 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: more than anybody. Why because they troll Lebron. Remember when 507 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: they first start saying you can buy your blue check marks, 508 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: and somebody put out that tweet about Lebron saying that 509 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: he was gonna get traded from the Lakers. He's like, 510 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: I love you Laker fans, but piece out that was 511 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: a troll faking Lebron's account. So there is a reason 512 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: for the blue check marks, but when they allowed people 513 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: to start buying them, all those reasons went out the door. 514 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: I know it's difficult sometimes to follow people's social media handles. 515 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: It's like, dog, what the hell is your hand? Not 516 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: everyone's as lucky as me, right at Marcello's Whitely at 517 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: Marcello people always say, what's the social at Marbly? No, 518 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: what's the social at Marcella's body? It's simple, like but 519 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people gotta have underscore, you know, 520 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: Max Kellerman or this is me at Dan Lebotard Underscore 521 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: three seven four, you know, like you got to do 522 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: all that and then that's where the trolls live. But 523 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: I just thought it was hilarious that they still really 524 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: out there trying to charge us for social media, like 525 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: where they do that at Like I thought social media 526 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: is supposed to be free and if it's not free 527 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: and you're gonna up charge me, why are you charging 528 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: me to be authentic? And then you let everybody buy it? 529 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: Like that's crazy. So I don't think this is a 530 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: smart play by Twitter. I think it was done when 531 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: they allow people to buy it, because now I just 532 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: look and I see blue check marks all the time, 533 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I think it's all fake, even 534 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: if it's really the person it's supposed to be. I 535 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: just think it's like whatever, whatever, there ain't nobody and 536 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: so now you just kind of deluded it, right, you 537 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: just made it all water down. So now you're gonna 538 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: try and water something down and didn't make me pay 539 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: it on the up charge. Ye elion, you're smarter than that. 540 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: At least the teslas tell me you're smarter than that. 541 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: But this Twitter run you on right now doesn't add up. 542 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Deon Sanders. Man, My dog, Deon Sanders 543 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: give springing break warnings to his players. And I love 544 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: this because I got to talk y'all through these coaches 545 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: when they go there. Hey, oh, none of y'all. None 546 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: of y'all acting no over this break, none of you. Okay, 547 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: if I read one story to ask any of my 548 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: players in it, wherever you are, you better stay there. 549 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: Don't bring your ass back that coach like what y'all 550 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: oh that gonna do? I'm a fire star. You better recognize. 551 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: Or two you were like dog, you did it too. 552 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna act all holier than now. Can I live, coach, 553 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: but you better not mess up. I do know that 554 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: because coach will not he would not hesitate to make 555 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: an example of you. Trust me, especially if you're a 556 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: three star. So it's funny because every coach I've ever had, 557 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: whether it's the bye week, whether it's victory Mondays, you 558 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: never ever will see happier three hundred pound men in 559 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: your life. And I'm not even talking about when they're eating. 560 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about when you say victory Monday after a game. 561 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: All that means is you don't have to come into 562 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: the facility on Monday. But what it really means is 563 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: you could fly somewhere. Oh that's Sunday afternoon, take a flight. 564 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 1: And you know us, we used to go to Miami 565 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: a ton, go to Miami, stay down in the Tuesday 566 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: night and come back. Oh we'll rest later, you're right, 567 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: And that's all it was. But they always say that, 568 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: And it's funny because most of the time guys don't 569 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: get in trouble. Like it's two thousand dudes. How many 570 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: times you hear stories, You hear of random stories. You 571 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: even hear of exaggerated stories like oh damn and the 572 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: giants and the timberlands on the boat. You know, like, man, 573 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: that's all y'all got Romo? Oh my god, he was 574 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: all off any of us down in Cabo with Jessica Simpson. 575 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: That's all y'all got, like, seriously, I mean, there are 576 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: some incidents, of course, but they're always incidents. If human 577 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 1: beings are alive, they're gonna do something bad somebody, somehow, 578 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: some way, right, So like to blame it on like 579 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: the break, A lot of guys just charge up. That's 580 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: not a story. A lot of guys just go home 581 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: and see the family. That's not a story. A lot 582 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: of guys going party and ball out and pop bottles. 583 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: That's not even a story. It's only the few. And 584 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: then we obviously bring hyperbole to it. But football is 585 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: a different animal than the other sports. So I get 586 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: why coaches and football especially go there because we suffer 587 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: from two things. One, there's so many of us. We 588 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: got a mob mentality, like we steady mob, and like 589 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: ice cubing them. We out there deep. No matter where 590 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: you go. If it's a football player there there's other 591 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: football players, right. Basketball players kind of going they lonely 592 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. You see a stick a giraffe here 593 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: and there, and you're like, oh, that's a basketball player. 594 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's all so okay, that's cool. But you don't 595 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: see them mob as much as football players just one. 596 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: There's not as many of them. It's four hundred and 597 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: fifty baketball players's two thousand of us. We roll deep. 598 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: But that's not the real reason, not just the mob mentality. 599 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: It's the helmet. I call them helmet habits, like the 600 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: helmet habits that we all possessed because we played football. 601 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: We do a lot more. We do three much just 602 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: to get noticed being real football players going the club 603 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: and try to compete with a basketball player. And this 604 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: is back in the days when we adn't make as 605 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: much as basketball players. Now we do make as much 606 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: as baketball players, just ain't guaranteed, so do you really. 607 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: But point being, there's guys in the NFL fifty million, 608 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: forty million, it's about ten dudes and make forties. Some 609 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: NBA guys what they're making forties yep, same thing that 610 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: may send it five one year. Like so, NFL money 611 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 1: and NBA money, it's different, but it's the same at 612 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: least at the club. But back in the days, and 613 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: it's still to that. Cats without their helmet, they gotta 614 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: do more to get recognized like the average girl. Because 615 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: this is all about the currency of getting a woman's attention. 616 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: Let's stop. Ain't nobody going to the club to kick 617 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: it with their boys. They're going there to get holida, 618 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: or to see what's out there, or just to be like, yo, 619 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm getting a little little away time away from the 620 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: family and stuff. But you're still checking, like what's that's 621 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 1: how it looks out here? Boy? You can tell when 622 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: it's the old head in there. That's me. Boy, I'm glad. 623 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad I ain't single. That's what we say. What 624 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: basically what we really mean. It was like, damn if 625 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: I'm single, boy, be on so serious? Oh man, But 626 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: them helmet habits get us in trouble, seriously, get us 627 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: in real trouble. Cats just be doing too much in 628 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: football players, you know, I don't know if we got 629 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: more to stosterom. It's just we show it more. Football 630 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: players be acting donkey when they go out right, and 631 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: that's it. That's that helmet habit and that mob mentality 632 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: all makes stuff so all's good in the hood. I 633 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: just thought that was funny that Dion went there, and uh, 634 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: make sure, hey, I don't want to hear nobody's name 635 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: next time I say y'all name it's better read the 636 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: next time I hear about y'all, because I'll better nut 637 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: on this break. Read one thing that has your name 638 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: in it. Like, all right, coach, where you're going on 639 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: your spring break? That's the real question, coach. All right, 640 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: Let's get to the last story. Pat bad Man talk 641 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: about why he doesn't have sex the night before games. 642 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: And I laughed at this. He said he's keeping his 643 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: legs fresh man. He got he got caught by that 644 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: Mitch bug. You remember that in Rocky when Mick Mick 645 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: was like, uh, I want to make sure you you're straight. 646 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: Don't you mess a night on the night talking about 647 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: make sure he's right? Oh man, Rocky couldn't mess around. 648 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: Mick was mad as hell. You had a fresh legs. 649 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: Rock's all right, rock Man. That is a myth, I 650 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: tell you, boy. You talk about a placebo effect, you 651 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: tell about something mental more than physical. Is this and 652 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: it got legs like this whole myth has been around 653 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: for ages and it's some bs. Let me tell you 654 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: why the best game I ever had in college and 655 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: I think it was my junior year against Princeton. Why 656 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: I say it was my best game because I was 657 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: a sports Illustrated Player of the Week, which was huge 658 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: for someone at Columbia because it got me national notoriety. 659 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: But more than that, I think I had a sack, 660 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: forced fumble, fumble, recovery, touchdown, interception, something else. Like I 661 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: hit every column as a defender and they were like, Yo, 662 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: this dude, you're gonna get award for this. Guess what 663 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: I did the night before he hello the night before 664 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: that not because of my intention. It wasn't because I 665 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: was like in the streets or anything. This girl came 666 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: by and it was a girl that I was Let's 667 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: just say I was on the hunt for red October 668 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: and it was October night she came through. And when 669 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: she came through, bro, I was like, it's now a 670 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: never conversation. It felt that way because I was on 671 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: the hunt. I don't know why she came through that night. 672 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: Maybe in her mind to her home girls. You know, 673 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: she's like, he got a game tomorrow. Let's see if 674 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: he really liked me, girl, if he lets you girl, 675 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: if he let you come over, if he let you 676 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: come over the night before his game. You know, marcella 677 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: serious about his football that I don't know about the 678 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: rest of him. Dudes. He serious by his football. If 679 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: he let you come over, he liked you, girl. I 680 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: don't know if it was that or she just was 681 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: just like it just hit her, like, oh yeah, the 682 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: dude that's playing tomorrow, I actually like him too. Let 683 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: me go over and see what's up. Well, I didn't 684 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: have much willpower. Long story short, and we went there. 685 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: We went to the Heavens night. I ain't long and 686 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: I was shook. I remember I woke up like, oh 687 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: my god, Becky Una, I'm gonna mess up today. This 688 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: is gonna be my worst game. I remember because I 689 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: had the Rocky in my head. I had Mick in 690 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: my head, like I had a messed up. I'm about 691 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: the mess around and have the worst game. I had 692 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: the best game I ever had, so obviously I shattered 693 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: that myth in my head. But I wasn't over the 694 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: broadcasting and telling anybody my boys, a couple of my boys. 695 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: But I didn't tell the world because I was like, god, 696 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: I can't believe it, and then like anything, this is 697 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: why you can't let anybody get away with something that's wrong, 698 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: because they're gonna do it again. I don't know when 699 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: I did it again, but I did it again, and 700 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: let me tell you, the myth was real. I was 701 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: sorry to say hell, and I can't remember the game. 702 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: That's to let you know, I blocked it out. I 703 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: don't remember the game or whatever, but I was sorry 704 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: to the point where every time I did it, after 705 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: maybe once or twice in the pros, it felt like 706 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: maybe once or twice in the Pros, maybe a few 707 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: more times. I didn't have great games, like it got 708 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 1: into my head for real. But I had my best 709 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: game ever, and then I had sorry games, and then 710 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: I had okay games. So I think it's just like 711 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: anything like, it is what you make of. It was 712 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: so a man think of so he is right. But 713 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: I went there a few times and I was like, dah. 714 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: I tried to fight that myth. I was like, come on, man, 715 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: just just be good to me. But there are guys, 716 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: and let me just tell you that, and y'all know 717 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: it's true. There are guys that go in and still 718 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: ball out. Hall of famers, man, I know hall of 719 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: famers that just did the damn thing, same as the 720 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: party animals on the team, same as the scrubs on 721 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: the team that they just were a little more discreet 722 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: and they got away with it. Tiger Woods proves that right, 723 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods. I don't know what he was doing before them, 724 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: damn masters in the US opens Well, whatever it was, 725 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: it was working. So so a man think of so 726 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: is he all right, y'all, let's end this show right 727 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: now with a whitey ism. Y'all know it wyly ism. 728 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: Oh this is from a fan. Actually hit me one 729 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: time he chopped some game up. I think it was 730 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: a little weird because he his spelling and and all that. 731 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: The fonts were off. It was kind of like Cam 732 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: Newton fonts. But he said some jewels in there as well. 733 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: He said, you are in the wrong place when the 734 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: best thing to you is the worst thing for you. 735 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: Oh that sounds like the club. That sounds like the 736 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: old head at the club. A man, all right, boy, boy, 737 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: I tell you if I was single, whoa y'all got? Yeah? Man. 738 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: It is crazy though, when if you're in a place 739 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: where where everything is saying do this, and you know 740 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: that ain't good for you. Yeah, you're gonna have to 741 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: check where you are. I've been there before, not just 742 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: the club, but just like in social settings where you're like, 743 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen cats try to do drugs and cocaine. 744 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: I have never done cocaine, never will. Then BIA is 745 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: scared the hell out of me growing up. Nope nope, nope, nope. 746 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: What do you do it once? They said, or something? 747 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: Nope nope, nope. Hell drank bro dranking a gummy. That's 748 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: about as far as I'm going. So I was like, so, 749 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: I've been in no settence before, and when you know 750 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: you're in the wrong place, when the best thing everybody said, 751 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: oh you gotta try that, you gotta do this, you 752 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: gotta do this, and you're like, yo, that's bad, like seriously, 753 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: And I hated that kind of pressure growing up. I 754 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: hated those type of people that knew that that was bad, 755 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: but because they were doing it, or because they wanted 756 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: you to act up with them so they could feel 757 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: better about their badass. They wanted to suggest it to you. 758 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: Hated that, hated hated that, hated them. Stop hanging with them. 759 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: Won't even confront them, because if you confront them, then 760 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: you tangling with poison and y'all over there arguing over 761 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: something bad. Now I'm wrapped up in bad. Nope, just 762 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: distanced myself, you know, and just resisted by avoiding it, 763 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: and that's how it went. So check yourself, man, check 764 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: your people, check your surroundings, check what they're rewarding where 765 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: you are, and it kind of loops back to our 766 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 1: original conversation of now sports media is rewarding not only 767 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: kind of like those who argue and yale and just 768 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: are entertainers more than educators, but also what's being rewarded 769 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: the digital space authenticity like this real intimacy community. Right, 770 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: So make sure you're into places where you know the 771 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: rewards and those are the rewards you desire, right, because 772 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: you're in the wrong place for the best thing to 773 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,479 Speaker 1: you is the worst thing for you. All Right, y'all, 774 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: y'all know what data do it more to it? Check 775 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: the show notes for all the information on our topics 776 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: to day that you want to keep the conversation going. 777 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk find me on all socials that Marcell S. 778 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: Wally More Too is a production of Dan Patrick Productions 779 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: that due to entertainment of workhouse media shows Executive produced 780 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: by Dan Patrick, Marcell Anderson and Nick Pinella. A. I'm 781 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: Marcell S. Walley, what I want? Thanks for listening, Thanks 782 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: for those reviews. Keep on coming. There's more coming, for 783 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: more to it, talk to y'all. Hella soon got