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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Christy Scales, Aisha Morrison, Nicole Hutchison, and Jess Navarrees.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our Tuesday edition of Girls Talk Boys Talk here.

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Speaker 2: At the beautiful SWBC podcast Judy at the Star Fresco.

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Speaker 2: We are brought to you by Jigsaw Dating. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Jess Navar Is, Ashmorris.

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Speaker 3: Nicole Hutchinson and Christy Scales here with us to date.

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Speaker 2: Ladies, how are we feeling now that it's been forty

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Speaker 2: eight hours to officially absorb everything San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Just breathe on it. We're getting ready to turn the page.

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Speaker 3: Here on the podcast will be the last day we

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Speaker 3: really talk about it in depth.

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Speaker 2: I know Ayisha is screaming to be done with this conversation.

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Speaker 2: She's blinking, blink twice. If you need help, there we go,

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Speaker 2: Oh there, there it is.

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Speaker 3: She's played three times.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, So we're gonna we're gonna get more into

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Speaker 2: that discussion today. I usuall went back and watch some film.

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Speaker 2: The ladies here got to talk to some of the

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Speaker 2: rookie class today. I'll let you guys talk about that

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Speaker 2: event as well, and we'll just get into more discussion

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Speaker 2: that we didn't get into today. Let's start with the

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Speaker 2: event that happened today and the importance of that.

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Speaker 3: Ladies.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, World Mental Health Day couldn't have come at a

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Speaker 4: better time after this San Francisco game. But it's awesome

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Speaker 4: because the Rookie Club, presented by Blockchain, they do so

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Speaker 4: many events throughout the year, and this year's rookie class

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Speaker 4: and Nicole, you got to see him in action today

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Speaker 4: just so outstanding. And so we had an event here

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Speaker 4: at the Star where Bessie Coleman Middle School drove up

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Speaker 4: from Cedar Hill, which is just south of Dallas, and

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Speaker 4: we were on the out to our practice field and

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Speaker 4: Trisha from Cowboys Fit, one of our yoga instructors at

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Speaker 4: Cowboys Fit, led a thirty minute yoga session for all

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Speaker 4: the kids and the Rookie Club was out there taking

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Speaker 4: part in that. And then a character playbook, which is

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Speaker 4: something that our community relations for the Cowboys in the

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Speaker 4: NFL have focused on for many years. Our friends at

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Speaker 4: EverFi help with that. And so to see those cowboys

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Speaker 4: rookies that the kids were broken up into groups of four,

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Speaker 4: and so we had four cowboys rookies with each of

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Speaker 4: those groups, and they talked about some really important topics.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, of course the topic of the day

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Speaker 5: mental health awareness. And like I mentioned in my story,

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Speaker 5: that'll be airing on Specialization this week.

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Speaker 6: Hey guys, may shu tun.

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Speaker 7: But no, it's just Dak Prescott really started.

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Speaker 5: To lead the way with this whole mental health awareness

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Speaker 5: around the NFL, kind of leading the charge a couple

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Speaker 5: of years ago. And so just to see so many

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Speaker 6: Being sold important and you see.

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Speaker 5: A lot of professional athletes really taking care of their

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Speaker 5: mental health. I talked to Deuce today, talk to Luke

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Speaker 5: and just ask them, you know, like what are why

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Speaker 5: is it so important to take care of your mental health?

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Speaker 5: And they're like, man, we do so much, you know,

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Speaker 5: and then Luke said he likes to you know, his

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Speaker 5: religion is really important to him. He also kind of

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Speaker 6: So just love.

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Speaker 5: I love how like a lot of athletes use different

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Speaker 4: So that was that was It was a really cool

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Speaker 4: Raising Kanes provided lunch and Darry Max the smoothies, and

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Speaker 4: so yeah, yeah, it was really an awesome day.

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Speaker 6: And it's it's so nice of that Rookie.

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Speaker 4: Club Tuesdays are the players stay off, and yet they're

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Speaker 6: So it was it was a day well spent for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean in regard to the mental health

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Speaker 8: I've even had to up my just my responsibility to

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Speaker 8: everyone out there, you know, this day is for you too.

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Speaker 8: Know that you're you're needed, that people love you, that

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Speaker 8: you're cared about, and just keep that in mind, and

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Speaker 8: it's okay to ask for help. Absolutely, And that's that's

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Speaker 4: And I'm glad you mentioned military background. Another event this afternoon,

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Speaker 4: And so the Cowboys and Sleep Number and Tony Pollard

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Speaker 4: with our own early salute to service with the Langford

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Speaker 2: And I feel like for those guys, especially after the

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Speaker 3: He can probably refresh and just remind themselves, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I know a lot of the guys you talked

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Speaker 2: I did something right in my job that day. So

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Speaker 2: especially after that loss, I think it's a really good

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Speaker 2: I walked in Tony Pollard's and in the lobby, I

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Speaker 3: Are you doing out here?

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Speaker 6: His crocks?

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Speaker 2: He was sporting those crocks in sport mode and he

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Speaker 6: It was so cool. It was a great surprise.

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Speaker 3: So that is awesome. What just glaze over that?

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Speaker 8: Sorry, no shade.

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Speaker 3: I love crocs. I've never had a pair of crocs.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we're going to change that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy you your first hair cross.

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Speaker 6: I've just never thought I was wearing crocs.

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Speaker 3: Crocks right now.

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollards wearing crocs upstairs. Anyways, before we get too

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Speaker 2: off topic, let's transition from there. Let's use Tony Pollard

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Speaker 2: is a good starting point with the Dallas Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 2: to the San Francisco forty nine ers. Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: The run game in in this game obviously not as

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Speaker 3: Fifty seven total yards.

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard had eight touches on the ball for twenty

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about why this run game wasn't established.

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Speaker 2: Let's start there and then we'll work our way around

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Speaker 3: I couldn't even watch it once. What did you notice

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Speaker 2: Why was it not able to get established early on

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Speaker 8: I think Brian Scheinenharmer mentioned that there they never found

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Speaker 8: And I also to you know, just looking at TP

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Speaker 8: really when you play a defense that's that physical and

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Speaker 8: felt as though Rigo could have countered some of that

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Speaker 7: I don't think it played.

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Speaker 8: It played into the forty nine Ers hands with how

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Speaker 8: see Totly, Pollard and Rico get more involved and maybe

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Speaker 8: not just running up the middle, maybe not just doing

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Speaker 8: taking it to those guys. I was disappointed in it.

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Speaker 8: If I'm not mistaken. They ran the ball like two

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Speaker 7: And we looked at.

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Speaker 8: The time of possession and also too, Schottenheimer mentioned that's

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Speaker 8: But even so, you run the ball to sustain, sustain

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Speaker 4: And he didn't use this phrase, but time on task.

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Speaker 3: You haven't really seen.

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Speaker 2: What those special packages can be for Deuce or Hunter

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Speaker 4: Well, remember he got thrown in at left tackle his

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Speaker 4: It's what Schottenheimer, I think was actually the previous week,

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Speaker 7: How can we go forward from there?

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Speaker 8: Because you, I mean, this offensive line to your point,

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Speaker 8: So movement, but the run the run scheme, I think

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Speaker 2: And that's a perfect transition to the passing game. Ladies,

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Speaker 3: Overall, Let's get into the Ceedee.

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Speaker 3: Not getting him the ball enough. Nicole.

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Speaker 2: When we were in the press conference yesterday with Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: Because when you look at the totals right now, you

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Speaker 2: but thirteen of those thirty five or excuse me, thirteen

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Speaker 3: Came in Week two. So it's just not being distributed

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Speaker 6: It's easy.

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Speaker 5: You simply get that run game going to open up

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Speaker 7: And so I think they.

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Speaker 5: Want to try to find more ways to get him

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Speaker 6: It's it's just as simple as.

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Speaker 6: But just thought it was really.

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Speaker 4: Interesting where the offensive coach and the offensive play caller

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Speaker 6: So yeah, you don't like that.

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Speaker 7: Ye fair, which is what happened very.

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Speaker 8: Exactly in that game, is where they went down and

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Speaker 7: And you mentioned the run game opening up the pass.

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Speaker 8: They are typically a zone team. They'll sprinkle in some men,

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Speaker 5: But then when they are open, you have Dak that's

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Speaker 7: Like you have to make better decisions as a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And that's no shade to Dak, but like you have

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Speaker 2: So let's get into that conversation after this next break.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Dak Prescott, maybe the play calling, if

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's continue our conversation.

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Speaker 2: The coot brought up Jack Prescott not making the best

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Speaker 2: decisions during this game. I see you were talking about

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Speaker 2: Hayde and see the field very well. Christy, you were

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Speaker 2: on the sidelines of the game. What did you think

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Speaker 2: of Dax's play? What did you notice maybe a difference

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Speaker 2: from the first half to the second quarterly?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what did you notice from how he was.

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Speaker 4: Playing during the well, you know, when the game was

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Speaker 4: getting away in the second half and then kind of

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Speaker 4: having to force it in there.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: So that's not an excuse, it's just a you know,

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Speaker 4: facts or facts. Yeah, Uh, that's.

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Speaker 6: How it is.

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Speaker 4: I would say that in not getting the ball to

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Speaker 4: CD or some of the other guys, only I say,

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Speaker 4: only twenty six pass attempts. You would think that it

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Speaker 4: would be higher, especially when you're falling behind and you know,

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Speaker 4: needing to play catch up. And so CD was tied

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Speaker 4: with Michael Gallup in terms of the most targets in

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Speaker 4: this game with five. Tony Pollard was also targeted with

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Speaker 4: five and so.

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Speaker 6: And then Cooper.

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Speaker 4: Rush had a couple of attempts there late in the

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter. But uh, and then you look at brought

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Speaker 4: perty stat line and he only had twenty four attempts

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Speaker 4: and like a one forty four rating. But what did

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Speaker 4: they connect on that? The Cowboys didn't the big plays right,

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Speaker 4: those catalytic, those long plays. And so we talked yesterday

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Speaker 4: about how there were some shots down the field in

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Speaker 4: this game, particularly early couple that didn't connect with Michael

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Speaker 4: Gallup or a couple to Brandon Cooks, one of them

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Speaker 4: that was the interception later, so they were they were

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Speaker 4: trying to get it, but San Francisco connected on theirs

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Speaker 4: and Dak and the Cowboys didn't on their own goal.

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Speaker 3: And how how do you fix that? What's the solution

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Speaker 3: for this?

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Speaker 2: Because here's the thing we just talked about, how CD's

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Speaker 2: not getting the ball enough. We've been talking about how

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Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks isn't getting the ball enough. Earlier a few

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, we're talking about how Michael Gallup's not getting

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Speaker 2: the ball enough. So it seems like a ball distribution

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Speaker 2: issue game to game, and given that could change with

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Speaker 2: the game plan, right, you're going to see games where

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Speaker 2: some guys get the ball more than others.

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Speaker 3: But what is your playmaker? You're starting receiver in Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 3: how do you get him more open? What did you

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Speaker 3: notice from the film?

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Speaker 7: I mean, as far as getting them more open?

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Speaker 8: I think I meant it when I said work sometimes, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: he was open sometimes. We going back to when Nicole

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Speaker 8: said earlier about you know the quarterback. Quarterback got to

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Speaker 8: see the feel better also too, he gotta be patient.

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Speaker 8: I felt like to your point, Christy, they did take

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Speaker 8: some shots, but with what purpose? You know what that

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Speaker 8: you're you're this defense is not stupid, you know what

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Speaker 8: I'm saying? Like, are you are you setting something up?

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Speaker 8: But with the lack of run game, it's hard to

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Speaker 8: set up anything deep downfield. And then also to if

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Speaker 8: you're passing deep, you're passing out a shotgun every single

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Speaker 8: time you're playing. You take when you do that when

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Speaker 8: you do so many plays out of shotgun, you take

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Speaker 8: away the ambiguity of what you're gonna do if you

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Speaker 8: are going to pass the ball off or hand the

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Speaker 8: ball off. There they were so much more successful handing

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Speaker 8: off the ball out of center and stuff in this game.

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Speaker 8: I would like to see some more of that. But

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Speaker 8: as far as getting him open, hey man, listen, some days.

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Speaker 7: Your guy ain't got it.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 8: I was surprised how tight Oliver played CD Lamb because

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Speaker 8: he's he's been had in previous games. But they came up,

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Speaker 8: they played pressman and they were winning at the line

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Speaker 8: of scrimmage their secondary. So an OC got to say,

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Speaker 8: all right, man, they ain't got it. Let me figure

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Speaker 8: that out. So I was looking for again the counter,

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Speaker 8: but also to your quarterback. Did miss opportunities on this

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Speaker 8: field when these guys were open, and it just felt

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Speaker 8: like from there it just it kind of shrunk like

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Speaker 8: when you miss those, especially against the defense like this,

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Speaker 8: if that might slip and fall, you better take it

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Speaker 8: to the house. You better take advantage of that because

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Speaker 8: they tackle well and they have opportunity. They don't have

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Speaker 8: a lot of opportunities. Also, would have liked to see

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Speaker 8: more Jay Ferguson, because when you go look back at

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Speaker 8: that tape, he was winning that matchup with Frevy Water

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Speaker 8: often and that is very difficult to do.

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Speaker 7: And so when you talk about ball distribution.

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Speaker 8: It's not even just about the wide receivers, it's about

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Speaker 8: the titands as well. And Dak missed Schoonmaker earlier in

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Speaker 8: that game. Begin that game, you overshot them. You mentioned Nicole,

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Speaker 8: you gotta be on the money.

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Speaker 7: That could have changed things as well.

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Speaker 8: So it's it's the QBC in the field, but also

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Speaker 8: being able to say, hey, we ain't got it today.

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Speaker 8: Let me do things to scheme my guys open, so

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Speaker 8: they're not just looking like they're stuck in mud at

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Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: Just four targets to tight ends this weekend that it hurts.

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Speaker 7: It hurts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm glad you mentioned Oliver, who's their nickelback

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Speaker 4: for San Francisco.

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Speaker 6: I thought he was one of the unsung heroes of

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Speaker 6: that game.

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Speaker 3: And sure's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I think when you're talking about the Cowboys transforming to

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Speaker 2: a more West Coast system, you're not gonna see as

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Speaker 2: much tight end usage in the past game as much.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean you don't see it at all.

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Speaker 7: You still you should.

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Speaker 2: But in the red zone, we haven't had the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to see it, and that's where it's the most needed

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Speaker 2: right now. You don't even have the chance to see

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Speaker 2: what the red zone plan was for the Cowboys this week.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest, because I think if you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: them involved, you need.

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Speaker 3: A guy to fill the Dulton Shultz shoes in the

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Speaker 3: red zone. You need a guy to feel dizzy shoes.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you have a group.

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Speaker 2: Of very capable tight ends in this game. Jake Ferguson

591
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Speaker 2: can get you that yakyard jack yardage that you need

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Speaker 2: in the red zone that you need to get downfielding.

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Speaker 3: Games like this, but just wasn't utilized.

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Speaker 2: And so for targets two tight ends overall, who was

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Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson, Sean McEwan because he was elevated from the

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Speaker 2: practice squad, and then Luke scoon Maker.

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Speaker 3: It's not acceptable as the play calling.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot of blame that you

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Speaker 2: can give offensively here that needs to get better. And

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Speaker 2: like Christy mentioned yesterday, Mike McCarthy said that today is

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Speaker 2: another day to go over everything, get the emotions out

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Speaker 2: of the game, and then they're going to turn the

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Speaker 2: page starting tomorrow. So excited to turn the page. Let's

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Speaker 2: turn the page two Special Teams for a second.

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Speaker 3: I want to go transition one. Oh nothing, I'm just listening.

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Speaker 3: I'm just see she's looking at me.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, No, I was listening now she was, really

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Speaker 8: I was are.

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Speaker 2: We Bey's the only one here, just like staring at

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Speaker 2: me like normal? Na, okay, well I love you, okay, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Jazz is staring at me. Great, Okay, Let's transition to

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Speaker 2: Special teams. Because here's the thing. Special teams often overlooked

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Speaker 2: as a unit that does so much, but it's just

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Speaker 2: so underappreciated. Uh and we talk about it all the

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Speaker 2: time here on this podcast, but let's talk about it

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Speaker 2: because losing CJ. Goodwin potentially for an extended period of time,

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Speaker 2: it's and and Cavante Turp and potentially we don't know

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Speaker 2: exactly what those injury extends are right now, we don't

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Speaker 2: know yet, but let's let's say that both of them

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Speaker 2: are out for extended periods of time.

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Speaker 3: It's not good.

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Speaker 2: It's not good for your Special Teams unit. And it's

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Speaker 2: just it makes everybody work a little bit harder and

624
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Speaker 2: in ways that they were already kind of struggling before.

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Speaker 3: Nicole.

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Speaker 2: You got to sit down with Brian Anger yesterday, an

627
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Speaker 2: unspoken hero of this team, just a veteran leader who's

628
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Speaker 2: such a quiet leader, but such a vital part of

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Speaker 2: this special teams unit. I know he's been vital in

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Speaker 2: helping Brandon Aubrey ads and he's just a great locker

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Speaker 2: room guy overall. We talked about it, Christy and I

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Speaker 2: do all the time. What did you get to learn

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Speaker 2: from Brian yesterday after the game and some key points

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Speaker 2: that you got from him from Cowboys Hour yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Well, one funny thing he likes to fish, that's funny.

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Speaker 7: But no, he talked about CJ.

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Speaker 5: Goodwin and how that loss is going to be really

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Speaker 5: huge for them, and I know Brad actually mentioned him

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Speaker 5: that someone's gonna his quote was about CJ. That someone's

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Speaker 5: gonna realize one day that he could probably be an

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Speaker 5: All Pro player, you know, just based off how good

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Speaker 5: he is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and so, but no, talking.

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Speaker 5: With Brian, he basically had said that you know, this

645
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 5: guy went from playing basketball at like Bethany College. I

646
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Speaker 5: believe it was a smaller school and then he just

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Speaker 5: all of a sudden picked up football, you know, ran

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Speaker 5: a four, two nine and a forty. He's like, I mean,

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Speaker 5: you have to miss a guy like that, especially who's

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Speaker 5: produced so much for us on special teams.

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Speaker 7: But hey, we've got Jalen.

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Speaker 6: Tolbert, you know.

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Speaker 7: So I think that he can step up.

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Speaker 5: He hash shown that he can step up, like in

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Speaker 5: the Patriots game, you know, penning them inside the ten.

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Speaker 5: So I mean they have full faith in Fossil of

657
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Speaker 5: course as special teams coordinator, and they got faith in

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Speaker 5: Jalen Tolbert.

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Speaker 7: So I know they're gonna I know c J.

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Speaker 6: Goodwin's gonna be missed.

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Speaker 4: What do you think, Chris, Yeah, So the way that

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Speaker 4: they addressed it in the game on Sunday because CJ

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Speaker 4: got hurt early in the in the first quarter, went

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Speaker 4: back out there for one more play and then basically

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Speaker 4: missed the rest of the game. So Tolbert was it

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Speaker 4: one gunner, and then they inserted Noah Igbinoghany as the

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Speaker 4: other gunner in place of CJ. And I think that

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Speaker 4: Jalen Tolbert, to your point, Nicole, has proven himself just

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Speaker 4: in the first month of the seasons as a really

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Speaker 4: good force in coverage at gunner, and so you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe the special teams coordinators for the other team shift

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Speaker 4: a little more focus to Jalen moving forward, because CJ

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Speaker 4: is the guy that you really kind of have to

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Speaker 4: plan for. So he's not just not just the leader,

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Speaker 4: the veteran guy and the veteran presence, but really your

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Speaker 4: most productive special teams guy. But the other thing is

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Speaker 4: with Cavante Turpin not having him, what they did Sunday

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Speaker 4: for the remainder of the second quarter and then for

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Speaker 4: the second half, Ducevaughn took over on punt returns and

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Speaker 4: Ricodoutle on kickoff returns. Well, here's the thing. Those guys

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Speaker 4: are normally blocking for Cavante, So when they are taking

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Speaker 4: over as the returners, then not only have you had

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Speaker 4: to replace CJ, but you've had to replace Cavante and

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Speaker 4: CJ with blocking. So you've had to make two moves there.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, the special teams guys are mainly

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Speaker 4: backups anyway, you have a few starters in there, like

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Speaker 4: Jake Ferguson is a key guy. For example, when it's

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Speaker 4: field goals and extra points, certainly you're starting offensive linemen or.

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Speaker 6: Out there to help block.

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Speaker 4: But it is a real domino effect, and so they

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Speaker 4: were really, especially the second half of that game, working

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Speaker 4: on the fly. It was almost like a preseason game

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Speaker 4: in terms of all hands on deck and trying to

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Speaker 4: make all of these personnel changes as the game moved along.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, just from a personal standpoint and having a

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Speaker 4: good relationship with CJ for the past several years, you know,

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Speaker 4: my heart hurts for him because he really is a

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Speaker 4: key guy. And Brad's right, he should have been in

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Speaker 4: the Pro Bowl at least twice really over the past

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Speaker 4: four or five years that he's past four or five seasons.

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Speaker 4: But the Turpin thing, I know that Mike McCarthy said

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Speaker 4: he's hopeful that he might be able to practice and

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Speaker 4: maybe even play on Monday.

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Speaker 6: We really won't know until.

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Speaker 4: They have their first full practice this week, which will

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Speaker 4: be on Thursday, extra day going into the Monday game.

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Speaker 6: But man, I don't know. I don't know the way

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Speaker 6: I don't I'm.

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Speaker 4: Hopeful that Turpin will be able to play, but man,

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Speaker 4: that the dominoes are really going to fall if he's

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Speaker 4: not able to.

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Speaker 2: I also think it's interesting too to see how they

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Speaker 2: place him in the game. So you have Deuce Vaughan

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Speaker 2: and then you have ric o'dowdell who were both kind

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Speaker 2: of taking.

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Speaker 4: Reps, yeah, but also at wide receiver for Turpin and

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Speaker 4: with that package.

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Speaker 6: So would Jalen Brooks be your fifth receiver?

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Speaker 7: Probably?

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Speaker 4: Probably probably Brooks as your fifth receiver. Brooks was active

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Speaker 4: when Brandon Cooks was not available for Game two or

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Speaker 4: Game three within the knee injury, and so Brooks would

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Speaker 4: probably be active. And he you know, he can obviously

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Speaker 4: if you're the fifth or sixth wide receiver, you're playing

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Speaker 4: special teams, right, so he could help be another person

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Speaker 4: out there and help on coverage and blocking and things

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Speaker 4: like that. But you know, I guess the positive was

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Speaker 4: the Brandon Aubrey with his fifty yard kick that was

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Speaker 4: still solid.

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Speaker 2: So I love that we have Brandon Aubrey's fifty yard

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Speaker 2: kicks on this podcast and.

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Speaker 3: All over, Kevin, let's take our next break.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to continue the special

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Speaker 2: teams conversation just a little bit, a couple more points

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Speaker 2: there as well as the Cowboys defense. When I just

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Speaker 2: saw on film what we heard from Dan Quinn yesterday

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Speaker 2: and a couple of little nuggets that we can throw out.

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Speaker 2: And we have a question to answer from someone on

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Speaker 2: Twitter that I want to end the conversation with, so

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Speaker 2: we'll get to all of.

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Speaker 2: get into a little bit more of special teams, because

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Speaker 2: here's the thing I think.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to we're just talking about Brandon Aubrey.

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Speaker 2: He is your top scorer on this team right now.

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Speaker 4: And that's not necessarily a good thing. It's not a

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Speaker 4: good thing because you don't want to settle for threes.

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Speaker 4: You want your kickers to have a lot of ones

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Speaker 4: for extra points, not a bunch of threes for field goals.

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Speaker 4: Because you've been stalin in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: Let's go through this.

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Speaker 2: He has fourteen field goals and then ten extra point kicks. There,

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Speaker 2: fifty two points for the season so far, and that's

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Speaker 2: a lot of points for your kicks.

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Speaker 3: In only five games. I would just like to point

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Speaker 3: that out.

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Speaker 2: It's only been five games and those are his stats.

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Speaker 2: We praise Brandon Aubrey's leg so much, but it's gonna

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Speaker 2: need a break at some point.

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Speaker 6: Give me mistick to extra points, points.

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Speaker 2: And you know, just give the man a break. It's

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Speaker 2: a long season ahead. But I love Brandon Aubrey's story

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Speaker 2: and I love what you've been able to see because

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Speaker 2: the conversation, if you go back to week one a

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Speaker 2: little bit, the conversation was not Brandon Aubrey is going

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Speaker 2: to be carrying this team on his back to score

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Speaker 2: points during games.

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Speaker 3: It was is he even the kicker? Is Hee the

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Speaker 3: certain kicker?

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Speaker 2: Remember preseason, everyone was questioning, see the guy? Do you

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Speaker 2: go and get another kicker? And I'm so proud of

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Speaker 2: what he's been able to do during his time here,

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Speaker 2: and a large part of that he credits to guys

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Speaker 2: like Brian Anger, Trent Seg your long snapper there as well.

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Speaker 2: So we're going back to you know, the the ripple

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Speaker 2: effect of CJ. Goodwe here, there are veterans within this unit,

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Speaker 2: but when you lose a guy like CJ. Goodwin, who,

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Speaker 2: by the way, when you saw that blocked kick a

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Speaker 2: couple weeks ago, kind.

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Speaker 3: Of spearheaded that during the game, made the call to.

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Speaker 2: Say, hey, we got this look at practice the morning

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Speaker 2: before in the ballroom at the hotel. The guys were

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Speaker 2: practicing the same thing, and then it transpired into the

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Speaker 2: game because CJ. Goodwin was the one running that operation

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Speaker 2: behind bones fossil. So again, it may not be a

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Speaker 2: ripple effect that you see automatically from special teams, but

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Speaker 2: it could be a ripple.

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Speaker 3: Effect of what you don't see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not necessarily good because blocked kicks, muffed

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Speaker 2: punts that they return, things of that nature, right, things

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Speaker 2: that you don't see that could add more of a

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Speaker 2: threat to.

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Speaker 3: This Cowboys team overall. So wanted to throw that out there.

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Speaker 2: All right, defense ladies, let's get to our last segment. Here, Aisha,

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Speaker 2: I see you doodle in over there. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: see you doodle in. She's underlining the important thing she

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Speaker 2: wants to talk about, the thing about Ayisha's notes is.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I've known her for a year and

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Speaker 2: now we've been doing this podcast.

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Speaker 3: I know what that says.

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Speaker 2: I think if anybody just looks at it, nobody would

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Speaker 2: know what it says.

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Speaker 7: It's chaotic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: But what does what do your notes say about what

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Speaker 2: you saw from the Cowboys defense and what you saw

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Speaker 2: specifically in the second half of the game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, go there.

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Speaker 8: I mean you mentioned number one. I wanted to just

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Speaker 8: pick it back really quickly off of what you said

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Speaker 8: about the blocked kicks. Yanye was close a couple of times.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna get another one.

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Speaker 8: His speed off the off the line is just is different.

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Speaker 8: I'll say that he's really twitchy, and so I wanted

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Speaker 8: to highlight that that I do think that he's gonna

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Speaker 8: get another.

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Speaker 6: You're making the call. You're making the call.

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Speaker 7: Hoping that he gets another one.

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Speaker 8: Now from this defense, the forty nine ers play a

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Speaker 8: lot of quick game. So we talked about it yesterday

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Speaker 8: where I was like, I was surprised at the lack

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Speaker 8: of pressure that they got that plays into it, as

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Speaker 8: well as the fact that the forty nine.

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Speaker 7: Ers get the ball out a lot. I believe that

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Speaker 7: my not Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 8: Dan quinn said, you know that they wanted to create

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Speaker 8: longer third downs. He was hoping that they created more

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Speaker 8: longer third downs. They had fourteen third downs total, sounds like,

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Speaker 8: and they had seven under four yards where they had

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Speaker 8: five wins and two losses, and then they had seven

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Speaker 8: four yards and more and they had five.

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Speaker 7: Losses and two wins.

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Speaker 8: So you kind of see the balance there, and they

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Speaker 8: were hoping to get them into more third and short situations.

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Speaker 8: With that being said, one of the biggest problems that

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Speaker 8: I well, one of the biggest issues was there was.

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Speaker 7: A lot of leaky yardage.

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Speaker 8: Well we talked about on this We talked about on

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Speaker 8: this podcast that these guys needed to tackle and be

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Speaker 8: sure tacklers, but the Niners just fought for just a

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Speaker 8: couple more yards here and there, or a couple more

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Speaker 8: yards after contact here and there.

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Speaker 7: Really was also surprised.

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Speaker 8: That the Cowboys didn't disguise more in the secondary. They

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Speaker 8: ended up playing. This is that Cowboys are heavy man team.

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Speaker 8: They ended up playing a lot more zone and I

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Speaker 8: thought that they would be.

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Speaker 7: A good mix of that, but that's not happened.

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Speaker 8: And so really For me, it was just the fact

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Speaker 8: they could not get them off the field on third down,

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Speaker 8: whether it was for leaky yardage a couple of yards

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Speaker 8: a couple of downs before, or the penalties on the

881
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 8: key third down situations where they had gotten them off

882
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 8: the field.

883
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 7: And I mean just san Fran also too.

884
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 8: They just I mean, they just do such a good

885
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 8: job causing conflict, getting your guys to run into each other, rubs,

886
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 8: stuff like that. And I think not disguising as much

887
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 8: as the Cowboys could have done, really put them in

888
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 8: a play. They played them straight up almost. They were

889
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 8: just like, yeah, can you beat it? And I'm like, no,

890
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 8: brock Perdy has had another year of being a quarter

891
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 8: another he's had more time at being a quarterback. You've

892
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 8: got to show him some different looks. Get your past

893
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 8: rush from time, make him come off that first read.

894
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 8: And I wasn't sure we saw that consistently. There were

895
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 8: a few highlighted guys, but other.

896
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 7: Than that, yeah, it just wasn't a good day in

897
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 7: the office.

898
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 8: LV sad he got hurt because he was very sound

899
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 8: against the runs here early in that game. So yeah,

900
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 8: just those to me, that was the big takeaway. I

901
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 8: took from it, and I was glad that Dan Quinn

902
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 8: mentioned creating the shorter, I mean, the longer third downs

903
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 8: because that's where that defense thrives.

904
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, pin your ears back, yes, third and long. And

905
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 4: then Dan also mentioned that the one time they got

906
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 4: him in a third and fifteen and they give up

907
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 4: an explosive play, you know, so you do that, Yeah,

908
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 4: you can't do that because because the defense has been

909
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: good at taking advantage of that, you know, three of

910
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 4: the previous four games. But you're right about the leaky

911
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: yards when instead of holding him to a two yard run,

912
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: when that becomes a four to five yard run, and like, yeah,

913
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: and it's a shorter second down, shorter third down. But

914
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: the way Dan put it was he says, it's like

915
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 4: paper cuts, you know, just get again, get death by.

916
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 6: A thousand paper cuts. It's basically what it was.

917
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: It's a great Tailor Swift song.

918
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 6: Oh does that you got?

919
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 9: All right?

920
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 6: Jesse? Get ready? We had a Tailor.

921
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: Swift to be fair, that's what Dan said. Saxcuse me,

922
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: Mike said death by thousand cus that's an in the prescot.

923
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 6: I was like, but it's a Taylor Swift reference.

924
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: But I thought, wait, I had in my head. I

925
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: thought that's a Taylor Swift song when he said it,

926
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: but I didn't say.

927
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 6: That quarter is from from Mike McCarthy.

928
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: Wait, so when do we put because I'm just quoting

929
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: what michaemccarthy said, so it does not count.

930
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 5: Wait, so since when do we put coins in the

931
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 5: jar for Taylor Swift?

932
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 7: You haven't gotten you care say this point.

933
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: We actually I got a tweet about you. What yours

934
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 2: is going to be? Yeah, we got a tweet when

935
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: we put a quarter in for you, and we'll talk

936
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: about it after the show.

937
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: Sty we got a tweet about it. Everybody, we have

938
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: a we have our own things that we have to

939
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: put in there.

940
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, yep, I don't know what you're saying.

941
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 7: Ain't that the same?

942
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime you say you know what I'm saying, you have.

943
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 8: To say I say that a lot, not a lot,

944
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 8: but you say it.

945
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 4: But it's all either for a Christmas fund or for charity.

946
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 4: So well we'll decide later.

947
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 8: Asking his birthday birthday, Yeah, we're gonna be broke it

948
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 8: all right, you know what coming along, You're gonna be

949
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 8: broke from the puns.

950
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 6: So sorry, Yeah, but we got questions, we got question.

951
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: Speaking of Twitter, let's end this episode with a good

952
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: question that we got here on Twitter. I tweeted to

953
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: send us your questions. I'm sorry we didn't get to

954
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 2: all of them. We will save them throughout the week,

955
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: though Jamie wants to know.

956
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: He said, good evening from the UK.

957
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: Does it, James last week's sho where the Cowboys really

958
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: are or aren't likely to challenge the likes of the

959
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: Eagles and forty nine ers in the NFC? Or do

960
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: you think it was just a bad day in the

961
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: office and we don't see that kind of performance again

962
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: this season? Honest opinions here based on that question.

963
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: Uh, well, are you going first, Nicole?

964
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 6: Who's going first?

965
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 10: First?

966
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: Come?

967
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 5: Well, let me say I hope it doesn't happen again.

968
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 5: I hope that it was a bad day in the

969
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 5: office and it was just kind of like, okay, like

970
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 5: the Cardinals game, like let's just throw it away.

971
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 7: Let's just hope that was that.

972
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 5: But I think that now you've gotten exposed as an offense.

973
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: You've been relying and playing behind your defense all season long.

974
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 7: Now I feel like.

975
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 5: You got to step up, and I'm hoping that like

976
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 5: I said, that was just a bad day in the office.

977
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 5: Now this team has had time, You've got extra days.

978
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: Now you've got to step up because again, like I

979
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 5: said yesterday, your schedule is not getting easier. So I mean, no,

980
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 5: I hope. I'm not going to say that it might

981
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 5: not happen, but I definitely hope, certainly hope it does

982
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 5: not happen.

983
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 6: Again.

984
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 4: I'll go to what Bill Parcells used to say, you

985
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: are what your record says you are. This is a

986
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: three and two team, and there's no shame in losing

987
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 4: to a forty nine ers team which proved itself on

988
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: game Day Sunday to be the superior team. But the

989
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: fact that the defense, who by Mike McCarthy's admission, is

990
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: the strength of the team, win two out of three games,

991
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: and they're coming saying that's not us, that's not good.

992
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: This team is not good enough if they do not

993
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 4: play com implementary football. This team is not good enough

994
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 4: for one phase to carry all three to this point,

995
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 4: to this point, Can that change, Jamie moving forward? We hope,

996
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 4: So I really don't. We still haven't seen this offense.

997
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 4: It's at full strength or at you know, full throttle

998
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: and it's been five games, Okay, there's no more excuses

999
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 4: moving forward. You've got your five offensive linemen. You can't

1000
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 4: use that as an excuse anymore. We're not at full

1001
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 4: strength along the offensive line.

1002
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 6: Dak needs to play better.

1003
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: He's the first to say that we need to get

1004
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 4: the ball to CD more. Yeah, but we also need

1005
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 4: to get it to Brandon Cooks and Michael Gallop and

1006
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 4: to the tight ends and Jake Ferguson and Peyton Hendershott

1007
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: needs to get back and healthy and get involved. So

1008
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: ball distribution is going to be the thing, and it's

1009
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 4: all about matchup.

1010
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 6: Guys.

1011
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 4: Don't get worried that CD was targeted eight times this

1012
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 4: time and Michael only twice. It's going to depend week

1013
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 4: to week, okay, So don't get caught up in the numbers.

1014
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 4: Week you know, week to week that's gonna vary. But

1015
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: you are what your record says you are, and right

1016
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: now they're not equal to the forty nine ers, and

1017
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 4: hopefully we get a chance to play them again in January.

1018
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 8: I'm gonna answer the question guys saying that if I

1019
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 8: think both sides of the ball got to look themselves

1020
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 8: in the mirror and ask themselves what they want to be.

1021
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 8: And that's like to me, guest coaches included, just because

1022
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 8: it's it's not working, it's a players and it's.

1023
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 7: It's all the way around.

1024
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 8: So to me, if they don't make changes internally within themselves,

1025
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 8: their decision making, some of their however they decide to

1026
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 8: do things, then yeah, this is this is what they're

1027
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 8: gonna be. But you've seen in this last few games,

1028
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 8: like there has to be changes made. I with your

1029
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 8: ideals and how you decide to go about, you know,

1030
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 8: continue to push this team because clearly the offensive side

1031
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 8: of the ball they're struggling with some certain things, but

1032
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 8: defensively as well, what is your your bread and butter? Like,

1033
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 8: how are you guys gonna go forward? And if your

1034
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 8: bread and butter's not working anymore, what changes can you

1035
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 8: make to go ahead and evolve Because it might just

1036
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 8: be time for that, Like, it might just be time

1037
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 8: to evolve in different ways. So if they stay like

1038
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 8: this and they don't change anything, yeah, but they got

1039
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 8: to make some decisions amongst each other to give.

1040
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: Hiad yea And by the way, Lighton vander ash is

1041
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 4: going to miss some time. Yeah, you know which several

1042
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: weeks at least, Yeah, handful of games, so at least

1043
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 4: hopefully he'll be back, but we don't know how long.

1044
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know, and we can get in this

1045
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 2: discussion tomorrow. But if you remember how the run defense

1046
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: looked last season and when the conversation came up, it's

1047
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: when he had that next stinger, and so we'll get

1048
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: into that.

1049
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 3: Here's what I think about that question.

1050
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: I think that when you lose to a forty nine

1051
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: Ers team, who is arguably the best in the NFL

1052
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: right now, doesn't necessarily define you. What defines you is

1053
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: how you bounce back from this, because, like you said, Christy,

1054
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: there's nothing left that you can say is getting in

1055
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: your way anymore. Can't be emotional for this next game,

1056
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: you can't overhype it, you can't get to in your

1057
00:48:59,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: head about it.

1058
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: It's either you do it or you don't. You execute

1059
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 3: or you don't. You have a game plan it's not working,

1060
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: you adjust it or you don't. And that's what's going

1061
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: to define the team. You're only five weeks in. Your

1062
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: team is three and two. Other three and.

1063
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: Two teams include the Bills, the Steelers, the Ravens, the Jags,

1064
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: the Colts can keep going down this list, and the Saints.

1065
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: Three and two is not a horrible record.

1066
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you're still vying for

1067
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: a playoff run. At this point, you're still talking about

1068
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs in this conversation because.

1069
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: You have the talent on this team. But how you

1070
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: decide to execute going forward that defines this football team.

1071
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: It's not what happened on Sunday night, and it's not

1072
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: anything that's happened these last five weeks. It's what you

1073
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 3: learn from it, what you take away from it, and

1074
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: what you decide to execute on going forward.

1075
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 7: So you better pivot.

1076
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, Well, ladies, our time has come to an end.

1077
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: We went a little bit over today, but all in good,

1078
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: good stuff. Here Tomorrow we're gonna turn page officially. We're

1079
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: gonna start talking all things Chargers for your Monday night

1080
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: football game. So you get a Sunday to kind of

1081
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: rest and get ready for Monday night.

1082
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 3: But we're gonna give you all the previews like we

1083
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 3: normally do in a normal week Wednesday and Thursday as well.

1084
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: So with that being said, we'll be back here tomorrow.

1085
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: Please take care of yourself.

1086
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: It is world mental health day, so please make sure

1087
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: to take care of yourself, ask for help if you

1088
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: need it. You are important, you are very loved, and

1089
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that we can do this podcast to

1090
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: remind you of that every day.

1091
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: Have a great rest of your day. For Christine, a Cool,

1092
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: Aisha and Jess, we appreciate the heck out of you.

1093
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 3: Go be amazing. This has been Girls Talk, Boys Talk,

1094
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 3: presented by Jigsaw and We'll see you tomorrow.

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