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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my little peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This

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Speaker 1: is Frosted Tips with Me Lance and my lovely beautiful

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Speaker 1: co host Michael Turkey Turk. Well, that was so nice

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Speaker 1: of you, Lance, I'm very nice. What are more.

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Speaker 2: Adjectives you could use to describe me?

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Speaker 1: Beautiful?

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Speaker 2: You already said that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about pretty?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll take it, but it's worse than beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It just downgraded me.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, You're beautiful.

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Speaker 2: That's it, beautiful. Listen, I'll take it all right, Guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm super excited to get into this next interview. We

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Speaker 1: have the third otown member joining us today, Eric Strata,

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Speaker 1: and I know we have a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this and see how much

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Speaker 1: of this intro is actually true. Let's go yeah, because

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we just pulled this from Wikipedia, and you

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Speaker 1: know Wikipedia is all always true, Oh, every single detail.

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Speaker 3: If you pulled anything on me from Wikipedia, I could

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Speaker 3: tell you right now it's got It's probably eighty percent false.

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Speaker 3: And I've read it multiple times and every time I

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Speaker 3: go on, there's like something else wrong. So it's like,

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Speaker 3: am I really going to put energy into like trying

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Speaker 3: to fix this?

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Speaker 4: I know?

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Speaker 1: And now there's just all these assholes out there that

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Speaker 1: just purposely try to do stuff to you. I remember,

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Speaker 1: like when you Google imaged me forever, and it's just

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Speaker 1: changed recently. I mean, for since Google began. The main

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Speaker 1: picture that pops up is just this horrible picture of

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Speaker 1: me holding up like a woman's bra at some gifting suite.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what it was, but it's just

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Speaker 1: it was just a horrendous picture. And that was my

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Speaker 1: go to picture that everyone would use if they, you know,

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Speaker 1: did an article on me. That was the picture that

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Speaker 1: they would.

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Speaker 5: Go by, all because you wanted to get some free swag.

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Speaker 1: I was shopping from my mom, y'all. Oh god, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's see Eric about your intro. Eric Michael Estrata. We good,

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Speaker 1: so far?

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Speaker 5: Sure, all right?

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Speaker 1: Bronx born musician actor, best known for his work as

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Speaker 1: lead vocalist and one fourth member of the multi platinum

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Speaker 1: pop group Oh Town, debuting at number one with the

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Speaker 1: hit single Liquid Dreams, which We're definitely gonna get into

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Speaker 1: that in two thousand. The band quickly followed with an

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Speaker 1: even stronger second single and one. I'm highly jealous of

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Speaker 1: all or Nothing. Shortly after the group's disbanded, Eric embrace

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to develop and redefine his abilities as an

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Speaker 1: actor and a writer. He moved to La developed a

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Speaker 1: solid body of independent film work and published music. Eric

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Speaker 1: is still with Otown and hanging around. That's all true.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as hanging around part.

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Speaker 3: Hanging around part is a little uh broad, y'all, He's

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Speaker 3: still hanging around.

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Speaker 1: If you were to text your group text right now,

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Speaker 1: who would be the first to respond and do it

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Speaker 1: right now? I want to see if it's true.

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Speaker 5: If I had group text.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it has to be an obscure thing because

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Speaker 1: now now these boy band members are catching on to

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Speaker 1: if people go on frosted tips that the group text

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Speaker 1: gets hit up. So you got to do something like

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you're like being arrested or something, or like, guys,

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Speaker 1: can we tues?

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Speaker 2: We talk? Oh that's a good one. Sorry?

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Speaker 5: Can I say that on here?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just had to put.

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Speaker 1: A little E on it, you know, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a one star review for it.

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Speaker 3: Oh shut guys, I screwed up. I'll put that Okay,

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Speaker 3: I can tell you who's gonna respond. But who do

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Speaker 3: you think is going to If Dan is not in

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Speaker 3: the middle of like a coaching.

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Speaker 1: I would say Dan would be my number one.

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Speaker 5: Now, if Dan is.

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Speaker 3: Not in the middle of a heavy coaching scenario, then

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Speaker 3: it's going to be Trevor with a question mark. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: because I just I just talked to Jacob, so he's

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Speaker 3: not gonna yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like, what has happened in the last five minutes? Got

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Speaker 1: all right, We'll see who was? So let's talk like,

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Speaker 1: So born in the Bronx, I was. What was it

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Speaker 1: like growing up in the Bronx? Like, what what was

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Speaker 1: the family situation? And how did you get into music?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I grew up in the Bronx and the I'm an

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Speaker 3: eighties baby, so eighties nineties it wasn't the easiest place

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Speaker 3: to grow up, uh. I you know a lot of muggings,

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Speaker 3: a lot of fights going on around me the Bronx.

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Speaker 1: Yes, did you run into j I didn't. I didn't,

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Speaker 1: only she was the one doing the mugging.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I actually was watching Jlo in Living Color

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Speaker 3: and I was sneaking in Living color because my mom

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Speaker 3: I was obsessed with sketch comedy, like my whole life,

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Speaker 5: Obsessed with sketch comedy, like Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Night Live, Ben Stiller Show. Had Ben Stiller had a

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Speaker 3: show for a while there that was really good, and

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Speaker 3: I would sneak and watch that. But no, I grew

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Speaker 3: up in the Bronx like j Lo, and it was

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Speaker 3: it was kind of a weird time. You know, there

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Speaker 5: Uh the Yankee sucked.

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Speaker 1: Late nineties.

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Speaker 3: It was amazing, late nineties amazing, But yes, it was

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Speaker 3: it tough. I started on my musical journey through my

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Speaker 3: and so I started singing in church were you. We

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Speaker 3: grew up Pentecostal, Pentecostal Spanish Pentecostal, very music centric, the

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Speaker 5: And then my my.

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Speaker 1: One of the common denominators I see from especially boy

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Speaker 1: I mean I did. And that's where I learned harmonies.

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Speaker 1: was like, yes, I'm gonna be finally, because in junior high,

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Speaker 5: You see, as I.

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Speaker 3: Got older, I kept getting pushed to the front right

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Speaker 3: of my whole life. When I was younger, I was

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Speaker 3: sing high in the group, you know, and you you've

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Speaker 5: I ran the borderline.

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Speaker 3: They would stick me right at the corner where the

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Speaker 3: tenors would end and the altos would be getting.

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Speaker 6: Hey dudes, this is Christine Taylor and this is David Lasher.

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Speaker 4: You may remember us as teenage co stars on the

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Speaker 4: Nickelodeon show Hey Dude back in the day.

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Speaker 6: Now decades later, we are together again as hosts of

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Speaker 6: the Hey Dude the Nineties called podcast, where we revisit

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Speaker 6: amazing nineties nostalgia.

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Speaker 4: From music to movies, to television and comedy.

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Speaker 1: We cover it all.

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Speaker 6: And we get to do it with an array of

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Speaker 6: guests who made their mark in that magical era.

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Speaker 4: Stars from Saved by the Bell, Married with Children, Blossom, Clueless,

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Speaker 4: Full House, Beverly Hills, nine oh two one zero.

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Speaker 1: The list goes on, and.

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Speaker 6: David, don't forget our number one fan, mister Ben Stiller.

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Speaker 4: How could I forget Ben Stiller? I mean, it was

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Speaker 4: so nice for us to both meet him for the

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Speaker 4: first time. He was an amazing guest, We've also had

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Speaker 4: on other nineties megastars like Jason Priestley, Melissa Joan Hart,

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Speaker 4: Cal Mitchell, and Maam Biollick just the name a few,

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Speaker 4: and there's so much more to come.

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Speaker 6: So sit back, relax. You can even binge our episodes

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Speaker 6: and make sure to catch a new one each week.

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Speaker 4: Listen to Hay Dude the Nineties called on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 4: Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Now we spoke to Trevor and Ashley about how they

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Speaker 1: auditioned for making the band. Yeah, Trevor recorder a tape

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Speaker 1: with his friend and got called in. In fact, he

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Speaker 1: didn't really get called in, his friend did, but he

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Speaker 1: came anyway and made it. Ashley had a manager to

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Speaker 1: that sent him to the audition. What was your experience like,

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Speaker 1: because this is before because now people if you go

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Speaker 1: American idy have all these reality shows. You're like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So this was sort of like the biggest thing, right

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Speaker 3: and this is not even not even this, Like we.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even have a computer. Yeah, in my in

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Speaker 3: So I it was absolutely serendipitous how it happened. I

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Speaker 3: I had gone to college for a vocal scholar on

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Speaker 3: And it was during that that two week three week

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Speaker 3: time period that I saw on E News that lou

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Speaker 3: the Infamous was doing auditions and a search all over

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Speaker 3: ended up walking into my mom's den. She's watching TV

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Speaker 3: And I saw that, and I was like, man, I

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Speaker 1: Like everyone's saying, terrible my heart for this audition.

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Speaker 3: Well, because it was the only thing that was actually

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Speaker 1: So Lynn Harles were like judges at that time.

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Speaker 3: I owe a lot to Lynn Harless.

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Speaker 7: Full of physically, the decide that they needed to say less,

440
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 7: do more like you you see yourself and how you

441
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 7: want to be portrayed.

442
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: You kind of create your gars and.

443
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: You have the fans also kind of contributing that, putting

444
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 1: things in your head.

445
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 2: Well, especially now with back then there.

446
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 1: Was no social media. So what was the reaction from

447
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: the making the band fans?

448
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the first season there was those that

449
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 3: could see themselves in me, which I think a lot

450
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 3: of reality TV you get that, right, You find that

451
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 3: in boy bands in general. You find those characters that

452
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: you can relate to. So like a lot of New

453
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: Yorkers would get me, but a lot of Midwesterns they

454
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 3: just didn't really understand.

455
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 5: And so it was a mixed bag. You know, everyone

456
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 5: you know.

457
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: Loved who they had, They had their they had the

458
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 3: you know, their favorites all the way down. And and

459
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: for me, that was tough. That was tough. It was tough,

460
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 3: and I didn't realize how much it had affected me

461
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 3: because at the same time, you're trying to compete to

462
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: make it into this group, and that's really all I

463
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 3: cared about. Like, I just really wanted to be in

464
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 3: a group. I didn't want to be in a reality show.

465
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be a spectacle and and be

466
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 3: you know, the puck at the time was like the guy, right,

467
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 3: So I didn't want to be Puck. I wanted I

468
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 3: just wanted to earn my role and find and define it.

469
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: You know, I'm twenty years old, you know, I don't

470
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 3: even know who I am yet. And then you see

471
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,239
Speaker 3: yourself back on camera and you start to realize, oh,

472
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 3: that's how people react, and then you see other people's

473
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: interviews on me, and then you're like, oh, that's how.

474
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 5: I'm coming off to them.

475
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 3: And so it's like it's it was therapy every Friday night. Oh,

476
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was therapy every Friday.

477
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: Can't imagine well, being twenty years old from the Bronx,

478
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure not cool to be boy band fan at

479
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: all at that age. What did your friends think when

480
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: you when you made this band? You're like, wait, what

481
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: you listen like you listen to this music?

482
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that was far less of

483
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 3: a surprise. I think the surprise was we all thought

484
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 3: he can do this, and oh shit, he is doing

485
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: And there was that when my parents moved me from

486
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: New York City down to Florida. We live in a

487
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 3: very small beach community, like very just very tight. What

488
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: town was that, Melbourne, Palm Bay area? Okay, so it was.

489
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 3: It was very small. Not a lot of you know,

490
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: notable people had emerged from there. So the idea that

491
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: I can actually get to that point was was sort

492
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 3: of far fetched as most people who I think that

493
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: come from small places, smaller towns.

494
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 5: And then becoming big. I think they almost have that

495
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 5: bigger dreamer like motivation.

496
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 3: They're like, I gotta get out of this town, you know,

497
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: And so I kind of felt I kind of felt that,

498
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: you know, I felt that in the Bronx looking at

499
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 3: on Manhattan.

500
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 5: I always wanted to work in Manhattan.

501
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 3: I always want to be a part of that Manhattan

502
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 3: lifestyle because I was always on the outskirts and the boroughs,

503
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: and they want to move to Florida. I felt even

504
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: more detached, and I just felt like I want to

505
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: be there.

506
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 5: I need to be there.

507
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: I have so much more to give, I have so

508
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 3: much more to learn, and so yeah, yeah, I mean

509
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: I think that was sort of more the reaction. And

510
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: then you start to see like where the loyals or

511
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: the loyalty lives for people.

512
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: Oh, of course, because then I'll find out quickly.

513
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

514
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: When the group was finally formed, I think it started

515
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: like eight of you went onto the show, or how many.

516
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: Started from twenty five down to eight eight, okay, and

517
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 3: then the eight got ween down to five, and then

518
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 3: obviously it moved from five to four.

519
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 5: And then that's when we added Dan right.

520
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 1: Right, because we had some friends like JD. Myers was

521
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: like one of those Jadie Myers, remember, yeah, and Paul Martin,

522
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: Like I went to high school with Paul.

523
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 5: Oh you went, Oh that's right.

524
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Like so I had a lot of connections.

525
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: Like I forget I know JD.

526
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: I know.

527
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: What's weird is that, Like we saw him after he

528
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: came on the show and did that and he became

529
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 3: friends with you guys, and I was like, it was

530
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 3: just it was cool to see him.

531
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 5: I forget about Paul.

532
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: Paul.

533
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 5: Paul was such a really great character for the show.

534
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: And Paul went on to do Lose Country band. Correct,

535
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: I forget the name of it, but yeah, yeah, he

536
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: started a country boy band, which is a great idea

537
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: because Rascal Flatch, like all those were killing it. I

538
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: just don't know why it didn't. I think maybe the

539
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: guys didn't get along or something. Marshall, Dylan Marshall did that?

540
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: Did I just pull that out of my head?

541
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: You remember, Wow, this is shocking.

542
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: I can tell you why it didn't work out. I

543
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: can tell you why most boy bands didn't work out

544
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: after us.

545
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: Okay, tell yeah, tell us what what what in the formula?

546
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: Because you guys were so gosh darn big. I said, Gosh, Darne.

547
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: We're not getting any on this episode.

548
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 5: You guys were so big.

549
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: It was so much of you, so much of Backstreet,

550
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: so much of ninety eight degrees. There was no meat

551
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: left on the bone for anyone at that time. And

552
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for the television show and the exposure

553
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: and the connectivity that happened with the audience, a broad

554
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 3: audience at that point, not only like young girls, but

555
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 3: like their parents because it was Friday night television, we

556
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: would never ever have seen a set season, and honestly,

557
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 3: the second season wouldn't have happened if we didn't get

558
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: signed by Clive Davis and then essentially having a song

559
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 3: that was already set for us. You know, we are

560
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 3: very thankful for all or nothing, but we wouldn't have

561
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 3: existed if it wasn't for that. So I really feel

562
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: for all of the other boy bands that came out

563
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: at that time, with those deluded with.

564
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm sorry being big.

565
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: Uh there's uh, there was there was There was little

566
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: room for that at that point that the world was

567
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: over it, the world was over. We were ready to

568
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: see we were ready to see justin Cry Cry Rivers

569
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: all over.

570
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: What was the dynamic light when you finally got to

571
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: those five Dan joins the group, What was the dynamic

572
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: between you five were There's some that you just really

573
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: related to immediately, and some are like, I don't know

574
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: about this guy.

575
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, we never knew about a Kaika where that was

576
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: the guy who ended up like quitting quit, so we

577
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: never really formed a bond with him. The bond was

578
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: really formed between us four Jacob actually, myself and Trevor

579
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: very much off the bat, and we knew immediately like

580
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to like pry us away from each

581
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: other because we have now galvanized and we know each

582
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: other's strengths. We knew each other's roles. And that's another

583
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: thing with boy bands too. It's like there's five guys,

584
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 3: you know usually in a band, like what is everyone's role?

585
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 3: You know, and you got to figure it out and

586
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: like you're diving up parts. I mean, luckily we've learned,

587
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: we've learned the chemistry now on how to do that

588
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: in the current iteration of Otown. But back then, you know,

589
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: we're always trying to you know, we have like young

590
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: twenty year old egos, I want to sing that like

591
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: I should be the lead, you know, and everyone had

592
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: that feeling.

593
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: We never had that. We were told and putting our

594
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: place exactly what we were going to be. So and

595
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: it just works. It worked for us. Yeah, we all

596
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: knew our roles from day one, and I don't know,

597
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I guess that's why. And we didn't fight much over

598
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: We never fought over leads or any parts at all

599
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: because it was just known that justin JC and me

600
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: the leads, and we're doing all the harmonies done.

601
00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 5: We'll see.

602
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: That's that's interesting because for us, we wanted to we

603
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: wanted to be like you guys, but we also we

604
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: wanted to be the.

605
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 5: Gout, the the the uh.

606
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: The sort of amalgamation of both back Street and and Sync.

607
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 3: At the time, you guys were our big brothers, right,

608
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: We're like the We're like the kid that an older bamp,

609
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: like an older you know, couple has after they send

610
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: their they're too off to college, then they find out

611
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: that they're pregnant.

612
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 5: Again, that's us.

613
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I gotta make it work.

614
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so and so we had to figure out,

615
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: like how how do we identify with you know, them

616
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 3: being so big? So we need to dance just as

617
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: much as in sync, and we all need to sing

618
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: like most of the Backstreet guys do. And so like

619
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: we started to figure that that's what we wanted to

620
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: sort of become our DNA and it and.

621
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 5: It did, it did.

622
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: It did create issues at times. But one thing about

623
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: guys in the group, maybe similar to you guys, is

624
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: that we were really competitive. And we learned really early

625
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: on that it didn't do us any good to be

626
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: super competitive with one another as much as it did

627
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: competitive for the greater goal. And so the greater goal

628
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: was we need to be successful. We need to maximize

629
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: this television show, We need to maximize our opportunity. And

630
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: so the idea of us coming together as a team

631
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: that became that became paramount for us, which is becoming

632
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: a team.

633
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. And I love the brotherhood that you form.

634
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: You can never get rid of. And that's one thing

635
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: I love about being a part of a group. Even

636
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: if you hate the guy this day, you love them,

637
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: You love them anyway, and you're just your brother. You're

638
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: always going to come back to that, just that family.

639
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: And I love how y'all have you know made this

640
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: big comeback with the four of you guys, you're killing

641
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: it right now on the Pop two thousand tour. Y'all

642
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: started that how many years ago?

643
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 5: About four now?

644
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean, how many days do you think you were

645
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: actually gonna do When you first came up with that tour,

646
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: You're like, it's gonna be a summer.

647
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 5: No, sum Yeah, it was a summer. It was you

648
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 5: know when I mettually in the summer, you know, that

649
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 5: was really what it was.

650
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: It was like it was, hey, let's get together because

651
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: like UK would love to see a revival of all

652
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: the boy bands, and like, you know, we did really

653
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: well over there, so let's go and do that. And

654
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: then we had no idea the States was gonna we're

655
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: gonna take to us. Yeah, and then we didn't have

656
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: we didn't at the time nostalgia. I think there's like

657
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: a moment where like acts have to realize that you

658
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: have now crossed the threshold of being current and cool

659
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: and new to nostalgia.

660
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: And we're a.

661
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: Legacy ban officially, and luckily we have a legacy that

662
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: we can lean on with great tunes and yeah, they're

663
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: not a lot, but we are leaving money on the table.

664
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: We are leaving these fans empty you know, you know,

665
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: empty handed, Let's give them something.

666
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 5: And so no, yeah, we didn't. We had no clue.

667
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: And honestly, we were going to be done in the

668
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: first year, even after touring and seeing like success until

669
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: ninety eight degrees was like, hey, well, actually Jeff and

670
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: I ended up having like a conversation and saying, hey, like,

671
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: it would be dope if like we went on tour.

672
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 3: And then we met at Roosevelt and then saw one

673
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: of the girls from Dream who was working at the Roosevelt,

674
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: and we were like, hey, wait a second, we're on

675
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: a meeting about this tour that we're going to be

676
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: on that we're thinking about doing.

677
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 5: I want to be on it.

678
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: And Diana from Dream and she was like yeah, she

679
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: was like working, she was like the manager at the Roosevelt. Yeah,

680
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: and so she was like she was like, yeah, I

681
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: would totally do it. I mean, me and the girls

682
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: aren't together, but we totally consider it. And and and

683
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: that led to the My two K tour and then

684
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: and it was because of the My two K tour

685
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: that we're still here today because it gave us this

686
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: like forty city tour exposure that oh my gosh, these

687
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: guys are back and it's a high energy show and

688
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: it's not what you expect.

689
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: You guys can perform like you were saying earlier that

690
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, you wanted to dance like us, you wanted

691
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: to sing like backshit like y'all did that. I mean,

692
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: it's I mean I would watch your show every night

693
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: and it was it's so good. And and you're so

694
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: lucky because, like you said, you get into that legacy

695
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: era and a lot of bands aren't able to do

696
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: that because they might have one hit, right, But you

697
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: guys have several hits to be able to work with,

698
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: so you'll be able to tour as long as you

699
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: want to. And and that's that's what's so great, you know,

700
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: And and hard in this career is to have those

701
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: those type of hits that people will always cherish and

702
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: always remember. And you got to do that many.

703
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 5: Times over, many times over.

704
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: And I'll say this, like, there's a lot a lot

705
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: of groups out there, a lot of acts that have

706
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: really great songs. One thing that our group doesn't lack,

707
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: which a lot of those other artists do, is we

708
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: don't lack the lazy gene you have to get out

709
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: there you have to perform.

710
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 5: It's a grind. There is nothing glamorous about what we do.

711
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: You've been there, you know, you know, like for us,

712
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: you know, like we we grind it out.

713
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 5: We're weekend warriors.

714
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: We grind it out for four days with two days

715
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: of travel and each one of those days in between.

716
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: But we know that the gratification that comes from that,

717
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: you know, ninety minutes of performing and we see those

718
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: faces and we see how happy those our fans are

719
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: that we get, we get to be a part of

720
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 3: their escapism. Like it's just such an enormous gift, something

721
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: that in between the time that me and the guys

722
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: were together, I sort of wanted to forget. I sort

723
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: of wanted to forget that I was in Otown at

724
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: one point in my life.

725
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 5: And I'm so glad that.

726
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: That we had the courage to do it again despite

727
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: so many people saying that it was going to fail,

728
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: so many people that you and I both know, people

729
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: managers and everyone like. Still to this day, people can't

730
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: believe that Pop two thousand is actually a viable brand

731
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: that can go around and tour the country.

732
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: They just don't think it has legs. And you know, sorry, Like, I.

733
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: Mean, it's been years that it's been one strong.

734
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: When it did just halt at the end of the

735
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: show and you decided, you know, to take a break.

736
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: What did you in your head? Where did you think

737
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: you belonged in the business? Where did you want to

738
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: go after Otown?

739
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that Wikipedia wherever you pull that from, was

740
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: actually right.

741
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 5: I actually had.

742
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: I actually had an agent who who poached me from

743
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: the group at the time, towards the weaning hours of

744
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: the group's twilight, and he was like, hey, listen, I

745
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: think you're an actor. I believe that you need to

746
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: be on screen. I believe you have a lot to offer.

747
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: I would like for I need for you to move

748
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 3: down la. I was doing a lot of uh tape,

749
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: doing a lot of submitting tape, and he was like,

750
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: now you just need to be here and get on

751
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: a grind and start and start doing the acting thing.

752
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 3: And it was always a part of my life, like

753
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: I always did music and theater. I always did like plays,

754
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: and whether it be in church or in school or

755
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: in college, it was always a part of it.

756
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: Did you have a favorite player musical you did growing up?

757
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have. If anything, I have or regret.

758
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: I regret that I didn't follow through with West Side Story.

759
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: My best friend at the time got the lead over me,

760
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: and I decided to pull out. And I and I

761
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: and I really regret that. I really wish I would

762
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: have done West Side Story.

763
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: Westside Story is what changed my life. It did when

764
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: I did that musical. That's when I realized I want

765
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: to be on this stage, like this is incredible. And

766
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: then I had dreams of Broadway after that. But that

767
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: that musical just really stuck with me.

768
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: So that's funny because it was the the opposite effect.

769
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: I didn't do that show, and I never wanted to

770
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 3: feel that you're missing out, that missing out, that fomo

771
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: that I quit because of essentially my ego, and I

772
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: can I can say that honestly now, like it was

773
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: my ego. They did it, you know, and uh, I

774
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: just that was that was the one. But yeah, So

775
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: I moved to LA and I started I started going

776
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: on the grind and it was not easy. Sarah Finn

777
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: and Randy Hiller are really big. They're really big casting directors.

778
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: Sarah Finn does like a lot of all every show

779
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: now and I had I remember I had gone out

780
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: for a few I had made really great relationships with

781
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: casting directors in town, a lot of auditions right around

782
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: the corner here. And she we had met at a

783
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 3: party once, and this is after I screen tested for

784
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: a really legendary movie.

785
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 5: Now, but I had.

786
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: Screen tested for it, and she, yeah, Coach Carter.

787
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: I know that I was.

788
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: I had screen tested for for one of the characters,

789
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: one of the leads, and it was supposed to be

790
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: opposite Samuel L. Jackson, and I had done everything. I've

791
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: given everything to that role. I had taken basketball lessons

792
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: to help my game.

793
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't make it. That's why I didn't

794
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: even audition.

795
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: And so I had, I had gone, I had gone

796
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: down to the last final screen test and they ended

797
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: up calling me, and it was really bad news for me.

798
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: I was like really bummed about it. And I had

799
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: met up with one of them, one of the casting directors,

800
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: at a party just shortly after that, and she had said, Hey, listen,

801
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: you know you're incredible actor. You have a lot to offer.

802
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: You don't ever stop acting because of this, but know

803
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: this that the fact that you were from this group

804
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: will bline you to the front of the audition. Room,

805
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: but it will at times be the thing that stops

806
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: you from It'll be.

807
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: The thorn in your ass. Yeah, because I mean, I've

808
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: had so many cashing directors to two reasons why many

809
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: cashing director says I can't give you this part because one,

810
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: you're gay, Like now they know you. It's like they

811
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: know you too well as being gay and they can't

812
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: get past that. This was years ago. No cash director

813
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: would ever say that to your face these days. And

814
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: the other was yeah, like again, they know you too

815
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: well as Lance Bashlman Sync. They can't get past that.

816
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: So there was just many things I just kind of

817
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: gave up, like, Okay, then if no one's going to

818
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: hire me, because they just want me to be Lance Bass,

819
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: and that's what I play in every single role I

820
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: do in the last ten years is like this version

821
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: of Lance Fast, this crazy version.

822
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: Of I think you were Lance back so so far

823
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: this you're like four.

824
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I play Lance Bass well,

825
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: but I do it.

826
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: We don't even know who lands.

827
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know who I am anymore. There's too

828
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: many versions of me out there, no idea who I am.

829
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: That's next, That's that's next on the slate, who is

830
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: Lance Lance Back?

831
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: Played by Lance Bass, Produced by Lance Mass, directed by

832
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: Lance Bass. I'm going to be beyond beyond.

833
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, man.

834
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 3: So that became a thing, like the type casting became

835
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: a thing, and and I, Uh, I realized that I

836
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: didn't really want to like just wait for people to

837
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: give me a role. I didn't want to wait for

838
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: uh to be a part of a shitty movie. I

839
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: wanted to be you know, control my own destiny. So

840
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: I started writing, and I started, I started creating what

841
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: I thought would be great opportunities for myself with you know,

842
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: illusions of granted that I can write a script and

843
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: sell it and be a part of the big machine,

844
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: which is really tough to do.

845
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 5: But I had I had these thoughts.

846
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: And what I learned in the process was I didn't

847
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: care about the acting process.

848
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 5: I cared about the creative process.

849
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: I love being on ZET, I love being a part

850
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: of like the team. I love the idea that we

851
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: get together every morning at six in the morning and

852
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: we do a twelve hour shift sometimes into overtime, you know,

853
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 3: and we are part of making a bigger thing happen.

854
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: And so I just started. I decided I was going

855
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: to go down that direction. I was like, I'm going

856
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: to go behind the scenes and I'm going to write,

857
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to produce, and I'm going to see this

858
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: This dream not the same way I had it when

859
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: I was young, because being in a boy band was

860
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: sort of like a thirteen fourteen year old dream, you know,

861
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: but utilizing the skill sets that I developed over the

862
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: course of being in the group, how do I apply

863
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: those and how do I create something else for me?

864
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 5: Moving into my.

865
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: Third year process with writing, because I love writing. I

866
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: love creating. I mean, me and you were kind of

867
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: like the same in the whole like film, television, just

868
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: we just like to create. I can't write a script

869
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: for the life of me, Like, I don't know the

870
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: rules of script writing, right, So I have to have

871
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: someone that joins me in that, Like I'll give the story,

872
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: the characters, what they're going to say, all this, but

873
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: I can't put it into a script form. Are you

874
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: able to do that or do you have like a

875
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: partner that you love to work with? Yeah?

876
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 2: I do. I do have some.

877
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: I've had several partners that I've worked with, and I

878
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: take everything from them and I try to apply that

879
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: to myself. But my first my first go at screenwriting

880
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: was I got a couple of books and I just

881
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: started putting scenes together, the scenes that I knew in

882
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: my head.

883
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 5: I just put them down and they were long winded.

884
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 3: A f Yeah, they are just not You can never

885
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 3: make a page count with the way I was putting

886
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: my putting my pages together, like it would be, that's

887
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: what I would be.

888
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: The first time I did a beat sheet, which took

889
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: me like three months for this TV show, I was like,

890
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: and then didn't sell the TV show. I'm like, not again,

891
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: never again. This was too much work for absolutely nothing.

892
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I'm gonna do this myself. Oh,

893
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: I've read a book on writing a beat sheet. It

894
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: was great. But then nope, not sold. I'm like, I'm

895
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: not wasting my time ever again. Someone else is bullshit.

896
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: It sounds accurate.

897
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, when when I started, I didn't have a clue.

898
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: I just had the ambition.

899
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: And so it's the same as like maybe when I

900
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: was young in singing, or even like in the beginning

901
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: process of otown recording, you go into the studio and

902
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: it seems like that room which is really small and

903
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: tight and soundproof seems enormous and scary and overwhelming. But

904
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: the more you go into that booth and the more

905
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: you start singing over these tracks, and the more you

906
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: start creating, it starts to become shorthand and you start.

907
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 5: To create.

908
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: Habits that now help you QC help equality control. And

909
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, that's that's sort of

910
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 3: like what my older version of myself has probably adapted

911
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: more to is the quality control aspect of well, I'm

912
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: not gonna go down this scene because like where's it

913
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: gonna happen, Where's.

914
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 5: It gonna go?

915
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 3: Or I'm not gonna I'm not gonna start on these

916
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: verses or this top line even for a song, because

917
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: where how do we how do we make this viable?

918
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 5: How do we make this syllable?

919
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: So those sort of things just become a part of

920
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: like the head. You know that you're just part of

921
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: like your process. And I'm still developing every day every

922
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: time I get in front. If I take time away

923
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: from like not writing, it's sometimes it's like, oh, I

924
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: get that initial feeling of like, oh my gosh, I'm

925
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: not gonna be able to do this. Yeah, and then like

926
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: and once you start going it starts to you know,

927
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh yeah.

928
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: And I can like because I'm sure your note section,

929
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: like mine is just full of ideas, you know. And

930
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: my my manager a couple of years ago is like,

931
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: because I have too many ideas, right, and then I

932
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: have so many projects that I can't really focus and

933
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: then just most never get done because they're just spread

934
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: out everywhere. So it's like, just take three or four

935
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: and just work on that and don't create anything else.

936
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: Do not create anything else. I can't not do that.

937
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: I know.

938
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: I'll be sitting in bed. I'm like, okay, I'm yesterday.

939
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: Every day every day I put the phone, I'm like, no, no, no,

940
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I no, I'm not nope, not going to create anything else.

941
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, no, I have to. It's just

942
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: it's in us, like we have to do it. Is

943
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: there a film or show that you've developed or want

944
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: to develop that you just really want to be your

945
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: next project? Like can you say that? Because I feel

946
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: like sometimes when you put in the universe, it kind

947
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: of comes to you. I've sold a few films that way,

948
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: I just said, and they came to me.

949
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 3: I have I have, well, I have three projects right now.

950
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: That I wrote and developed, and I have script I

951
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 3: have in a future form.

952
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 5: I have it in a four part mini series.

953
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: I developed it with UH with a with a major

954
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: cable company channel.

955
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 5: Those need to happen.

956
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you're like right there.

957
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: We were right there.

958
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 3: We were developing it for nine months, and then there

959
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: was a merger, and then the merger whatever.

960
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: Always real covid or like just there's so many excuses this.

961
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 5: And that's why I've learned.

962
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: You need a lot of ideas, because sometimes people put

963
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: all of their eggs into one idea and then they

964
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: can't sell it, or they refuse to sell it, or

965
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: they like wait for the perfect deal to happen, and

966
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: that perfect deal may not happen. I've sort of learned

967
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 3: how to like attach myself from the creative brain that

968
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: I used to have and now say, okay, like there's

969
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: I need to sell this, and I'm willing to sell

970
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: it as long as someone's willing to buy it, because

971
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: I have like twenty in the clip ready to go

972
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 3: out whenever that.

973
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: And every year regime does change, and there's so many

974
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: shows that I worked on for years developing and we

975
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: pitch it and now my agents are like, well, it's

976
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: already been pitched, you can't pitch it again. I'm like,

977
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: why not, Yeah, like it's still relative today and there's

978
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: a whole new there's a new president now, like no

979
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: one's even heard this pitch. But they won't let me

980
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: take some of these out. They're like, yeah, it's dead

981
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: in the water, you can't pitch it again. And I

982
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: think that's so stupid because there's one show I just

983
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: sold a CBS that have literally been developing for twelve years,

984
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: and I've pitched four different versions of it over the

985
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: last twelve years, so every network's heard it, every different

986
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: version of it, and then finally just last summer, CBS

987
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: bought it. Like, so you can repitch something.

988
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 5: Well one, congratulations.

989
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: Well we'll see if it actually goes man rrect.

990
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: But what happens, I think, and this is from my perspective,

991
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: is that there's you know, twelve years allows for there

992
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: to be that clickover, that sick local clickover where we

993
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: kind of start back to like where, oh this is

994
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 3: new again, like it's our sort like boy bands, uh,

995
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: you know, like where it's like now we've kind of

996
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 3: got past this part where like this is not passe

997
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 3: and we can move forward. And I've seen honestly, this

998
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: is not this, this is the truth. There are three

999
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 3: shows on air right now that I totally came.

1000
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 5: Up with, Oh yeah, this is totally came up with.

1001
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: And then and and so that that brings and that

1002
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: brings me to my next theory.

1003
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 5: That we are just conduits. We're conduits.

1004
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: We're energy conduits right where like we're tuned in, you know,

1005
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: And the more you open yourself up to an idea

1006
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: or a concept or a belief, the more you can

1007
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: sort of attract that that that.

1008
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 5: That frequency to you.

1009
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: And you know, I believe that like I might have

1010
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: picked up a frequency. I might have picked up an

1011
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 3: idea in the you know, in the in the radio,

1012
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: in the radio waves, and that became something that I

1013
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: thought worked. I like to check off boxes before I

1014
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: get started on something. You know, is this sellable? Like

1015
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: does it hit what where we are as a you know,

1016
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: a society? And then if they and if I don't.

1017
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: Some of my projects didn't have that, and I've gone

1018
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: back to retool them to say, Okay, we're going to

1019
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: make this personal female and we're gonna make this person

1020
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: you know, really have like an understanding, make this person

1021
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: a certain ethnic background, and whatever the case may be,

1022
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: you kind of go back and retool these things and

1023
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: it becomes a brand new project.

1024
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 5: So again, I have total.

1025
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: Faith that like the the ideas and the projects that

1026
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 3: I've worked on as hard as I have will find

1027
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 3: a home in the home that they're supposed to be in.

1028
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: Because not all money is good money, not every partner

1029
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: is a great partner, not every network's a great network

1030
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: to partner up with.

1031
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 5: So I just truly believe that there was.

1032
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: A divine calling on these stories and they will find

1033
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 3: their way where they're supposed to be.

1034
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it still sucks when you see your idea

1035
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: on screen and then you then you read the credits like,

1036
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: oh yeah I pitched that to that guy. Yeah, yeah

1037
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: you have done.

1038
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 5: I have one perfect for you.

1039
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 3: But now that I know you have so many ideas,

1040
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: I fear like I should ever like tell you, because

1041
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: then you're going to be like then you're gonna get

1042
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: pissed and you're going to be like, what.

1043
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: Do you do?

1044
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: Oh please? Yeah, I mean we have two kids. I can,

1045
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: I can.

1046
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 5: I'll tell you, I'll tell you off air.

1047
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: Okay, you're good because my mine that I always see.

1048
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I created American Idol, but they might

1049
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: have gotten the idea for me because I did my

1050
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: freelance search two thousand, so we know the year was

1051
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: two thousand and look at this little premise. So three judges,

1052
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: Pink Promick Knight, Robin Wiley, our vocal coach what's his

1053
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: name hosted it. MTV ti L Dave Holmes hosted you

1054
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: show the Bad Auditions because they're just funny, like people

1055
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: never seen bad auditions before, love them right, and it's like,

1056
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, these poor people are telling this kid

1057
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: that they said good and they're horribly Yeah, we narrow

1058
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: it down. America votes for their your favorite American Idol

1059
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: and there you go. Ryan Tedder won it. It was great, awesome.

1060
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: Next year Pop Idol comes out in England. Yeah, I like,

1061
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: and I told way more so at the time, like, guys,

1062
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: that's that's my format, Like, that's my exact format. No, no, no,

1063
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: that will never work. We're not. I'm like, so they

1064
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: didn't let me do anything about it, and of course

1065
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: it goes up to blow out to be the biggest

1066
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: show on television. I'm like, guys, why didn't you have

1067
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: my back? Literally the same format it aired. It wasn't

1068
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: even a pitch it aired, it aired, It was the

1069
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: same format.

1070
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: It's tough the way they find the way they find

1071
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 3: the legal the legal loopholes there, Like.

1072
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: There's nothing proprietary about it.

1073
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they try.

1074
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 3: They pull that with me with you know, with the

1075
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: boy the very boy band holiday.

1076
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 5: You know it's not a proprietary Oh god, yeah, you know.

1077
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 5: It's just an idea, just an idea.

1078
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: By the way, did you get a text back? Because

1079
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't want them to think you're actually in trouble?

1080
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: See who went tice back yet?

1081
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: Like? Are you okay?

1082
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 5: What does it say you're dead?

1083
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: Question Mark from I don't know who did it first though,

1084
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: damn it. It's Jacob and Trevor, both of them, question

1085
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: Mark And then Trevor followed up with what happened?

1086
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 5: Question Mark?

1087
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: So we'll give that to Trevor. Since I've had a

1088
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: follow up, I kind of knew.

1089
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, Dan was definitely arrive for in the middle

1090
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 3: of the middle of coaching. Just the FYI for your

1091
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: pop idol thing, just a little tidbit of information when

1092
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: we auditioned for Clive Davis. There were a few people

1093
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 3: in that audition. One of those people was Simon Kyle.

1094
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that ran INTOM a couple of times. I

1095
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: remember it was Simon who God, what was his first show? Well,

1096
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: I guess it was American Idol.

1097
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was.

1098
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was talking to him, And

1099
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: I remember it was before it was before I knew

1100
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: that Ensync wasn't doing anything else right, and so I

1101
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: was kind of the hiatus. It's already been two years.

1102
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, guys, you know, I'm ready to get

1103
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: back in the stud And I remember Simon telling me,

1104
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: he goes, Lance, it's not happening, like you're never gonna

1105
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: make music within sync again. And I looked at him

1106
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: like he was crazy. I'm like, what the hell do

1107
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: you know? He was so right, like he just he

1108
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: just knew. He's like, it's it's over.

1109
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: I think you didn't know.

1110
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was talking to, but yeah,

1111
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: he was like the first that I remember saying, Lance,

1112
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: it's it's over, like it's not happening.

1113
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 5: It's very sad. Yeah, it's sad for me.

1114
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that for me too.

1115
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: I know, I'm serious, Like I I mean, I know,

1116
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: we joke about it. We do a little bit in

1117
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 3: the Pop two thousand show where you come out and

1118
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: you know, we do our dance and then we do

1119
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 3: bring back and sing and I started that little chant

1120
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: and it's very sad for us. It's very sad for

1121
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: for those that came.

1122
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: We're just waiting until we're ninety because we really want

1123
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: to come back. Like you know, it's like, Wow, they're

1124
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: really doing it in ninety guys.

1125
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like Abbo.

1126
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And actually no one will know who we are.

1127
00:51:54,320 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: It'll be our only chance to win a Grammy. Anology

1128
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: we finally get that Grammy.

1129
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 5: What was that pop grip that ended up doing that

1130
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 5: like the like everyone does.

1131
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Actually Abba was trying but then covid happened. They were

1132
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: really going to do something, but I forget yeah, and

1133
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: then it turned into hologram. Now.

1134
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just I just want to say before

1135
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 3: we segue, it would make so many people happy. And

1136
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, at the

1137
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's great to make money, but

1138
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: there's some there is that joy, there is that gift

1139
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: that comes from what you guys can do to people

1140
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: and bring people back to a simpler time I experience it,

1141
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: and you guys have on such a grander scale. There

1142
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 3: are so many times where I'm like this, there's if

1143
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 3: there was a behind the music, this, this is behind

1144
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 3: the music happening in my opinion of something that is,

1145
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: we're living through a tragedy. In my opinion, I just believe.

1146
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: I believe in you guys so much. I love you

1147
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 3: guys together so much. I obviously I know each one

1148
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: of you individually over the years, and I just really hope.

1149
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: I know that we probably would never be on the

1150
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 3: tour with you guys, but I want you guys back

1151
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: together so bad.

1152
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: Look, it would be fun. And I've said it before.

1153
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: I think we owe something to the fans. And you know,

1154
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: like I said, never say never. Something could happen, But

1155
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. The good thing is we're

1156
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: all really close. It's not like we hate each other, right,

1157
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: so you know, something something could happen. Speaking of Chris Kirkpatrick,

1158
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: yes now on Pop two thousands. Yes, has he been

1159
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: behaving himself? Dude, Chris at.

1160
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: Better A lot?

1161
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 5: You got I. I We've known Chris for years.

1162
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 3: Chris was my neighbor in Orlando, for a long time,

1163
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 3: and I have to tell you, fatherhood has done him

1164
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: an enormous amount of good.

1165
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: It did him down a good bit.

1166
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that he has been such a pleasure

1167
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: to work with. And you were obviously were a pleasure

1168
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: to work with, and it was we're fortunate to have you.

1169
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: And obviously because of the because of the kids and

1170
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 3: the responsibilities that you have being a multimedia, multi media mogul,

1171
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: you can't you can't do our little tour anymore. But

1172
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: having Chris on there is has just been wonderful. He

1173
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 3: not a lot of people know this, but Chris is

1174
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: obviously you guys know this. But Chris is responsible for

1175
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: in Sync being together. You know, I'm going to put

1176
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 3: us together, want to put us together, put you guys together.

1177
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: And I know that deep in his heart he wanted

1178
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 3: to perform again. And you know, he never wanted that

1179
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: thing to die, you know. And so the idea that

1180
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 3: we have an opportunity to give him the opportunity to

1181
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: live out this aspect of his life, his dream, this

1182
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: thing that he built. I see it as an enormous

1183
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: responsibility and gift also, and he sees it as such.

1184
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: I mean, he comes backstage most of the time and

1185
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: not I don't want to give up too much of

1186
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 3: our private moments. But there have been several times where

1187
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 3: he comes back and he's so gracious and grateful for

1188
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: the opportunity.

1189
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 5: To be there with us.

1190
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: He needed to be back on stage.

1191
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 5: He does, He did, and and it's it's been fantastic.

1192
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 3: I if there was, if there was us moving on

1193
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 3: from the Lance era of Pop two thousand, it has.

1194
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: It was a nice transition with Chris and and I'm

1195
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: glad that he treats it that way.

1196
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 5: And we've we're having a lot of fun.

1197
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: Well, that tour was so much fun. We would go

1198
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: to cities I don't think I've ever been to. That's

1199
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: one of those. It takes you a whole day to

1200
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: get there, then you do the show, then a whole

1201
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: day to get back.

1202
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 5: We've eaten elephant ears in very random places.

1203
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: I love to stay fair. I do. Anytime we would

1204
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: play a fair, I would eat my butt off. Oh

1205
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: my gosh, now I want to go to a fair.

1206
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 2: I love you some food, I do.

1207
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: I do. All right, Let's get some frost tips before

1208
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: I let you go. You were chosen to work with

1209
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: strangers in Otown. Yes, and also worked in with supergroups

1210
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: with holidays for a boy band Christmas.

1211
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 5: Yes.

1212
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: What's a tip on how to work well with others

1213
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: with different personalities?

1214
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: I like to be a person one that immediately identifies

1215
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: everyone's strength and identifies them in the role and give

1216
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 3: them that responsibility, even if that's me relinquishing certain level

1217
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: of responsibilities that.

1218
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 5: I'm normally used to taking them. So that's one.

1219
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: Two.

1220
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 3: I believe having mutual respect and admiration for everyone's journey.

1221
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: Everyone has had a long path in his career, very

1222
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 3: similar stories. But it's really important for me to say, hey, listen,

1223
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: you are this person and I respect you and whatever

1224
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: you want to contribute. I want to be an open

1225
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: vessel for you to like feel like you're in a

1226
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: safe space and like contribute that.

1227
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: If we could all think that way.

1228
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and not a lot of people, not

1229
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: everyone can, but you know, that's a part of I

1230
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: guess my training because I was with strangers growing up,

1231
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: like growing up in this business. And then you know, yeah,

1232
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: I mean working on a very boy band holiday, obviously

1233
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: creating it and have and being a part of the

1234
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 3: actual filming of it, and being a performer on it.

1235
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 3: But there were moments within the filming that I was like,

1236
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: I can't believe this is happening, and just at having

1237
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 3: the head to be I'm a peer, but at the

1238
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: same time I'm a fan.

1239
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you gave my daughter her television debut.

1240
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: That's rights. The Christmas special that we did, I did a.

1241
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: Little cameo and and on cue cried. Really fit the

1242
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: mood because you know, I'm supposed to be to shovel

1243
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: because I literally have three week old babies. Yeah, so

1244
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: I did a little cameo from my house like guys,

1245
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: I can't right now.

1246
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: She brought us so.

1247
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was her first speaking role. So I thank

1248
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: you so much for giving my daughter her first speaking

1249
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: role on a major network.

1250
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 5: Oh well, the pleasures on my thank you.

1251
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: We'll look back at it and she maybe she'll, you know,

1252
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: when she becomes a huge actress still say I.

1253
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: Got my start, but did not get her SAG card

1254
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: though for us she did. Cry is a cry is

1255
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: a cry.

1256
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to get her. Her baby needs insurance.

1257
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 1: Let's get to the fans, all right, Uh, Ritz MJ

1258
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: as if you could release any song from your debut

1259
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: album with twenty twenty three vocals. Yeah, which one would

1260
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: it be?

1261
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 5: Oh but that's a good question, mm asked.

1262
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: I always wondered, like Justin, because you know, when we

1263
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: started with Justin, he was fourteen, so his voice hadn't

1264
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: really changed yet. So I want you back. Tearing to

1265
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: my heart was when his voice was changing. I can

1266
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: hear it, I can hear like this it is higher. Yeah.

1267
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: I always like wondered that too, if you wanted to

1268
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: go back and re record like what Taylor Swift does

1269
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: these days, just like, okay, let me have a little

1270
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: more chortmen.

1271
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 5: Sure look at this, yeah, and let me all my masters.

1272
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I think that's funny because like all

1273
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: of the first album, because we were like in our twenties,

1274
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: we weren't like, we weren't like super young. We had

1275
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 3: already started to develop our voices that Clive made it

1276
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: a point to make us sound younger, and so I

1277
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: would venture to say the entire album I would release

1278
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: really again because I hear you know the clamps, You

1279
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 3: know the clamps, you know they are rubber bands down there, man,

1280
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: Like I'm just like, man.

1281
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 5: Like, it's all here, man, everything is right here.

1282
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's true, like back then they wanted you to remember.

1283
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 7: Just watched a clip from The Newlyweds with Jessica Simpson

1284
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 7: and they're like, they wanted her to re record an

1285
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 7: entire song on the album was a big one. I

1286
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 7: forgot what's one because they're like, no, you need to

1287
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 7: sing down, you need to sound younger, and that's not

1288
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 7: as good as a singer like you can't so, which

1289
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 7: is why, if you noticed Jessica Simpson thought her career,

1290
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 7: she started.

1291
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: Like, oh, just like.

1292
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 7: The Celtic and big, and it became like yeah, yeah,

1293
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 7: because they wanted her to sound like stupider and dumber

1294
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 7: and just kind of more like team like yeah.

1295
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 5: That's exactly what.

1296
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we.

1297
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: Had Wow, that's so sad thinking that, Like, give me

1298
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: a break, all right, what is your least favorite Otown song?

1299
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: This is from Lizabeth fifteen ash.

1300
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get so much hate for this.

1301
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: That's okay, we want to hear. Hey, they understand everyone. Look,

1302
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm here we go. That's mine, Here we go. One

1303
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 1: more time out of my head. Every time I take

1304
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: off on a flight, oh is that every single time?

1305
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 5: Such a nineties flight song?

1306
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: Since the nineties, every flight I take off, it goes

1307
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: here we go. That's all I hear.

1308
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 5: When you finally get to space.

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Speaker 7: That's what Yeah, Oh my god, that's what he sings

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Speaker 7: it every time he completes like an intimate moment with

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Speaker 7: his husband.

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Speaker 2: Wait to wait, Here we go and I go, okay,

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Speaker 2: we're ready.

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Speaker 5: Five, Here we go.

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Speaker 2: What song is?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get so much tay for this, but

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Speaker 3: this is the honest truth. It has been from the

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Speaker 3: moment I heard it till even I perform it now.

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Speaker 5: Liquid Dreams is not my favorite song.

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Speaker 1: Liquidreams are surprising. So I want what's your take on it?

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Speaker 1: Give me what is the description of liquid?

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Speaker 5: What is about nocturnal emissions?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like that Here we Go that might be

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Speaker 1: the best answer we've heard so far.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nocturnal emissions.

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Speaker 3: It's it's weird because the song actually does something that

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Speaker 3: none of the other boy band songs actually did, which

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Speaker 3: was target fourteen thirteen to fourteen fifteen year old boys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, Like it's really not to girls.

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Speaker 3: It's really a song about reflecting on being like a

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Speaker 3: prepscent young man.

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Speaker 1: You see your fandom just bust with boys after that song. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's more guys at this concert than girls.

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Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, we had a really dreams. Yeah, we had

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Speaker 5: a we had a mix, a mix of folks.

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Speaker 3: You know, our UK fans are gonna not like that idea,

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Speaker 3: that answer, because in the UK it was a really

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Speaker 3: cheeky you know, they love that sort of like take on.

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Speaker 3: You know, they have that kind of humor, which which

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Speaker 3: I appreciate and I totally get the humor also.

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Speaker 1: But this is my career, folks, and Stephlynn eighty six

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Speaker 1: would like to know pursuing more acting. Do we have

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Speaker 1: anything that you're going to be in coming up?

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Speaker 3: Nothing, I'm going to be in coming up on the slate.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully that's subject to change. You know, I really I

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Speaker 3: really miss it so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I missed the storytelling process, I missed the work, I

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Speaker 3: missed the I missed the notes on my script, I

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Speaker 3: missed subtext. I miss it all, honestly, And so yeah,

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Speaker 3: I really hope at some point that light shines again

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Speaker 3: and I get an opportunity to do it. I would

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Speaker 3: I would love to, you know, I I love I

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Speaker 3: just love all of it. I guess that's the thing, Like,

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Speaker 3: I just love all of it. And I know that

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Speaker 3: all of It takes a lot of work, and so

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Speaker 3: I've i've I fell in love with the work. And

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Speaker 3: when you fall in love with the work, that's the

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Speaker 3: hardest thing. It was never the result. Because I've been

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Speaker 3: on so many independent films, you know, I have like

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Speaker 3: six under my belt, and like they were never really

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Speaker 3: great films, but each one of those were the experience

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Speaker 3: of a lifetime, including Dead seven, which you you should

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Speaker 3: have been in, by the way, the movie with us

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Speaker 3: and Nick and Chris and then but that was even

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Speaker 3: that movie that was just such a joy to be

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01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 3: a part of the set, beyond and and and put

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Speaker 3: the work in. Even though all of my choreographed martial

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Speaker 3: arts scenes that I that I focused so hard on

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Speaker 3: and I studied so hard, and I did so much

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Speaker 3: off screen work, they never made the edit.

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Speaker 1: You should make more of those, because we do have

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Speaker 1: a fun teen idle family, right, I mean, we have

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Speaker 1: a show Frost of tips all about it. I would

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Speaker 1: love to see more movies starring all of us characters.

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Speaker 1: Frankie Grande just came out with a horror which I

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Speaker 1: love horror. I would love to see a horror film

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Speaker 1: with boy band members. What's it called Okay, So there's

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Speaker 1: a there's a movie called Summoning Sylvia. It just came out.

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Speaker 1: It's on all platforms, and it's just it's Frankie Grande

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Speaker 1: and these three other just you know, gay guys, and

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Speaker 1: it's literally just them in the cast, right, and it's

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01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 1: this little camp such campy hard film.

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: So it was so funny and it was great, like

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Speaker 1: I want them to see So I would love to

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Speaker 1: see you develop something like that, have us all in it.

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Speaker 1: Start with horror, because I would definitely do horror.

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Speaker 3: You know that's interesting. I like, I like stepping out

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Speaker 3: of my comfort zone. Horror has never been my zone.

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01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: I always just wanted to like jump out of a window,

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Speaker 3: but that never happened.

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Speaker 5: But I would totally do that. And and the idea of.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a it's a I think it's a

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 3: shame that we haven't all done another thing together because

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Speaker 3: it's like it's cast specific right find. You know, a

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01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 3: buyer is gonna be hard pressed to say you don't

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01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 3: want all the all of their viewers, all that viewership

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Speaker 3: for sure, you know, So maybe it's happening right now.

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01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: Maybe this is like the start of it. And we

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01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 3: can look back at this.

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Speaker 1: And put it in the universe.

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Speaker 2: And I would love to start it.

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01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gotta be fun.

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01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, you have to be on the joke that seven

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01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 7: was a B movie.

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01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: Nick Carter wanted to make a B movie, and I

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01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 3: mean probably more like a G move.

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Speaker 1: H long Shot was pretty that was a good one.

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Speaker 5: Long Shot. Oh yeah, we have been in a film together.

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01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah we have.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's hilarious.

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01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: Still have never seen it.

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01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 5: So, by the way, do you know you never saw it?

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01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: Now?

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01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: I saw my scene with Brittany, but that I didn't

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01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: see anything else.

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01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: So just just a little bit of like boy band

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 3: trivia to like the beginning and end of Long Shot

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 3: are the bookends. Lou wanted us to be in the film,

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01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 3: but the film had already been cut like together, edited together,

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01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: so he was like, we want you to be in

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Speaker 3: this film.

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Speaker 5: Well, we saw the film on New.

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Speaker 3: Year's lord Y two k New Year's Oh wow, you

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Speaker 3: know we thought that the world was going to die

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01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 3: and we watched it and we're like, Okay, this is

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01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: gonna be the last film we watched before the world dies.

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Speaker 1: This sucks.

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01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 5: And so Lou was so pressed on us being in it.

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01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 5: He's like, can you do this? Can you be in it?

1432
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: And we're like, well, only be in it if you

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01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 3: let me and Ashley write it. And so me and

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01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 3: ash went into like like our you know, into our

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01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 3: writing space and said, hey, what if we do this

1436
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 3: because we were always doing sketches on the tour, do

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01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 3: we do this and this and then maybe like book

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01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: end it. So the beginning, in the middle, the beginning, middle,

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01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: and d there's like moments where we come in. Those

1440
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 3: were totally added on at the end of the movie

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01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 3: and we sort.

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01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 5: Of just attached ourselves to it. But we wrote that

1443
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 5: whole like the entire thing.

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01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: I need to see this.

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01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: It's the idea was there right, Like we were saying, like,

1446
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: use these fun people like and just random characters and

1447
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: just make a movie around.

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01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 5: Was that the Rocks first movie?

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01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: Maybe?

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01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 3: I don't know, it might have been Dwayne Johnson the

1451
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: Rocks First movie.

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01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: Might have been because you're in the movie wrestler at

1453
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: the time.

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01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 5: Yes, he is a burglar, he's he's a mugger.

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01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: You've not Oh yeah, some major people, y'all major.

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01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 2: That was my first house.

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01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: You're so humble, I know, thank you.

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01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 5: He was in the sea with Kenny Rogers.

1459
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: Kenny Rogers. See it was Kenny because I was the

1460
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: co pilot.

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01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you were Kenny.

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01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: And Brittany was a passenger or she was the flight attendant.

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01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: She was flight attendant. There's a lot of great puns

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01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: in it.

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01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure it was all pun great

1466
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: puns they were there.

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01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 5: There were puns.

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01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: There were puns.

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01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were fun We'll just say that.

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01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were puns.

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01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: There were puns.

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01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: And on that note, as we leave on a horrible

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01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: movie that you definitely don't need to go watch, everybody

1475
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: go watch. Wait, Eric, it is so great to catch

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01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: up with you, man frosted tips. How can everyone stay

1477
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: in touch with you? How can everyone go see the

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: Pop two thousand tour?

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01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 3: Well, Pop two thousand is otonofficial dot com or Pop

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01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 3: two thousand Tour dot com. And then obviously if you

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 3: want to, you know, follow me. I am Eric with

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Speaker 3: a K estrata on Instagram.

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01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: Eric with a K. That's me, all right, buddy, Well,

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Speaker 1: we hope to see you soon.

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01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: I think now we have three O town members, we

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01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: still have to go. I like to spread all the

1488
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: members out throughout the years. So that you don't you know,

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01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: you don't get everything all at once. It's called patience people.

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01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 1: That's right, all right, guys, that is all the show

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: I have for you. Thanks so much for listening. Subscribe

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Speaker 1: review again. Gosh, I forgot to uh read some of

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: the reviews here, but we'll do that another time because

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Speaker 1: they are good.

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01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: My name and they're bad Sarah Beth from Maryland?

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Speaker 5: Wait are the are there bad reviews? Like so hilarious?

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Speaker 1: It's kind of I mean, they're just ridiculous. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, if we have to put an E on

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Speaker 1: this and someone says, you know, damn or something, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you'll give it one stars, like, oh,

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01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: I can't listen to this because.

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01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: I love to show, but you said that's ship, so

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01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 2: put that on.

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01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: Two reviews. This episode wasn't long enough, you know. It's like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Leave me.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to. I don't want to be a

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01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 5: part of that.

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01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to be.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to contribute to like a one star.

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01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: No, we enjoy well. I won't say that because I

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01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: don't want you to write one star reviews, but I

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01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: do secretly enjoy them.

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01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,560
Speaker 2: Well, I know. I want to like. I like to

1515
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: see your issues. This is ridiculous. Good issue. Give us

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01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 2: five stars in a bad review.

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01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, five stars and a bad reviews exactly perfect,

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01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: perfect deal. All right, guys, be good to each other,

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Speaker 1: don't drink and drive out there, take care of those animals,

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Speaker 1: and remember stay Hey, thanks for listening. Follow us on

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