Speaker 1: Guess what. We are less than two weeks away from
Speaker 1: the start of the twenty twenty five SOFI Playing Tournament
Speaker 1: the Dubs. The Warriors are definitely one of the teams
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on as they continue to work
Speaker 1: their way up the Western Conference standings. We are going
Speaker 1: to get into all of that and more with NBA
Speaker 1: writer and podcaster Charlie Cummings on today's episode. A Miles,
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Speaker 1: Charlie Cummings, Welcome to the show. NBA writer for the
Speaker 1: DraftKings Network, Swish Theory, co host of the Warriors Invitational podcast.
Speaker 1: He's done it all, he's seen it all, and we're
Speaker 1: here to talk about the Warriors. But first, Charlie, how
Speaker 1: are you welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm doing great. You really you really threw me
Speaker 3: with the accurate.
Speaker 1: You know, what it is babies podcast. You know, you
Speaker 1: better reach your cereal. Uh, it's so fun to talk
Speaker 1: like you forty. It is something that it's like our
Speaker 1: generation's Mickey Mouse. I think for California people, that's a
Speaker 1: character we can get behind.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like it's like Barry at Christopher Walking, you know,
Speaker 7: like everyone Wow.
Speaker 3: Everyone's got a forty voice that.
Speaker 1: Feels like a wild combo if it's all Bill, what
Speaker 1: if Christopher Walking had to be e forty for a role?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, talk to him Bill, Bill Wow the oh
Speaker 1: so my brain is split in two directions that are
Speaker 1: like I can't keep it on never mind. Okay, So anyway,
Speaker 1: this is a basketball podcast, Charlie. Great to have you.
Speaker 1: We do have our game of the week, Jabari. Do
Speaker 1: we have to flex him again?
Speaker 4: We had to flex on him?
Speaker 1: We had to flex on him again, didn't we? We
Speaker 1: had to flex on him again, didn't we?
Speaker 5: This time of year it's tough because you got people
Speaker 5: that are, you know, managing injuries. You got unfortunate situations
Speaker 5: like the Dame circumstance. Yeah he is now it's seemingly
Speaker 5: out indefinitely.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so we thought we thought we were
Speaker 1: gonna do a little Knickerbocker's Bucks action. But again, Damian
Speaker 1: Lillard is out because the deep vein thrombosis seems to
Speaker 1: be a thing happening. This seems to be the worst
Speaker 1: trend in the NBA right now that nobody wanted or
Speaker 1: wanted to see.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: So I hope he is able to recover because that
Speaker 1: is a tremendous loss for us as fans. Uh and
Speaker 1: even I'm sure much more for the Bucks. But anyway,
Speaker 1: we've switched it on him, and we said, you know what, sorry,
Speaker 1: we told you to watch the Knicks Bucks game. But actually,
Speaker 1: and I know we didn't tell you, so it's kind
Speaker 1: of reckless on our part. We ended up going in
Speaker 1: on the Clippers at Calves because why.
Speaker 4: It looks like a good matchup.
Speaker 1: It was a good one, you know, it wasn't it was.
Speaker 1: It was a close one. But for me, it always
Speaker 1: felt like it was the Calves that was it was.
Speaker 1: It was them in control the whole time. And I'm
Speaker 1: not just saying that because of someone who's always dismissive
Speaker 1: of the Clippers. Let's stop what it is. They never
Speaker 1: had a chance.
Speaker 5: It's interesting, you know, you know, to La guys. Of
Speaker 5: course we're gonna be dismissive of the Clippers and you know,
Speaker 5: be ridiculous about them. But it's funny when you know,
Speaker 5: when I was putting the notes in for this, I
Speaker 5: was made me realize, why are we always so dismissive
Speaker 5: of the Calves? Because you know, this is a team
Speaker 5: that you know, multiple fifteen you know, fifteen plus win
Speaker 5: streaks in the same season. But as soon as they
Speaker 5: hit a three to four games you know, skill stretch
Speaker 5: where they're sitting people or a couple guys are out,
Speaker 5: or whatever the case may be, you know, they drop
Speaker 5: a few, We're immediately like, Okay, well screw them.
Speaker 4: They're not good, they're not coming out. Why are we
Speaker 4: so dismissive with it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Charlie, why are you so dismissive of the Calves? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why do I Why do I just disparage the Calves?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's especially weird, I think in contrast to the
Speaker 7: way we treat the Thunder. Where the Thunder, I mean,
Speaker 7: they play in the tougher conference. They got all these
Speaker 7: tough opponents, they got the star power and Shay and everything,
Speaker 7: but every time they come through with a win, it's
Speaker 7: just like there's a new stat about how dominant they
Speaker 7: are and blah blah blah and all that.
Speaker 3: I was even seeing tweets like people are thrown out.
Speaker 7: There like, folks, this is the most dominant regular season
Speaker 7: anyone's ever had. And I was like, all right, like
Speaker 7: that's just you know, it sounds like little brother talk
Speaker 7: to me. But then you look over at the Calves
Speaker 7: and it's like, oh, the Calves are like still a
Speaker 7: few games behind them, like they already won sixty games.
Speaker 3: They're walking away with the East.
Speaker 7: After Boston you know, ran their way through to a title,
Speaker 7: brought the whole team back.
Speaker 3: I think everyone kind of assumed, like, well, look.
Speaker 7: At the Celtics, means Celtics are just gonna, you know,
Speaker 7: sleep walk to sixty wins again, get the number one seed,
Speaker 7: and go all the way through the East. That's kind
Speaker 7: of the weird thing to me is I don't think
Speaker 7: anyone would have predicted the Thunder being this good. But
Speaker 7: it wasn't a hot take to say, like, best the
Speaker 7: number one seed in the West going into this year.
Speaker 7: If you said, if you were like, you know what,
Speaker 7: Henny Adkinson, he's gonna be the guy. Evan Mobley's taking
Speaker 7: the leap. Darius Garwin, he's back to form. This is
Speaker 7: like a sixty five win team. If you said that
Speaker 7: in the off.
Speaker 3: Season, everyone'd be like, you're insane.
Speaker 7: So I don't really understand why the Calves sort of
Speaker 7: get this, Like I get it they don't have the
Speaker 7: same record they had like kind of some kids in
Speaker 7: the recent part of the season. But you know, like
Speaker 7: you said, every time the Calves like stumble for a
Speaker 7: couple of games, it's like, oh, we all knew this
Speaker 7: was coming, and it's like, well, you guys didn't know
Speaker 7: that them being good was coming in the first place.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I did. I remember when the
Speaker 1: preseason we were talking about the previews for the Calves.
Speaker 1: My big thing was, hey, man, if if they keep
Speaker 1: playing like this, they'll be all right. And I do
Speaker 1: be saying things like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, there's an upward trajectory if this continues,
Speaker 1: long may it last. But yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think it is just something about just the Celtics
Speaker 1: and how dominant they were last year that it just
Speaker 1: makes it it sort of like blocks out that part
Speaker 1: of your brain that could acknowledge how good. The Calves
Speaker 1: are also playing, so blame this, I guess. I think
Speaker 1: the bottom line is we need to blame the Celtics game.
Speaker 5: Boston always yeah, oh yeah, which the situation is absolutely
Speaker 5: absolutely it was a pretty typical Calves when all the
Speaker 5: all the usuals were there doing their thing.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Norm Powell. Though, I do have a soft spot for
Speaker 1: Norm Powell. I gotta say, I just I do like
Speaker 1: watching him play. I just I don't like saying that.
Speaker 1: But that's I don't know why he he tugs and
Speaker 1: tugs at my heart strings, but he does.
Speaker 4: He does. Still having a great year, you know, career year.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the ethical most improved player in my book, not
Speaker 7: the not the utter nonsense we're pushing of a Cunningham the.
Speaker 3: Number one pick is really good. Now suddenly he is good.
Speaker 5: You get a good, good, solid coach in there, get
Speaker 5: some actual NBA talent around him, and he is exactly
Speaker 5: what we thought he should.
Speaker 1: Be, right exactly. It's like the most improved is now
Speaker 1: turning into yeah, that's what I thought, That's what I
Speaker 1: thought he was going to be. Like, It's like, that's
Speaker 1: not most improved, just be okay, fine, He's like.
Speaker 5: But I'm now right, So yeah, therefore I wrote articles
Speaker 5: about this and now we just come differuition.
Speaker 1: When did the most improved When did we start wobbling
Speaker 1: with who we were giving most improved player too? When
Speaker 1: did that really start?
Speaker 5: I feel like post Goren Dragic, like before like Gordon Tragic,
Speaker 5: that would you know that made sense? Like there are others,
Speaker 5: but like after that and I don't have to listen
Speaker 5: in front of you right now, and a good producer
Speaker 5: would have. But like you know, once he ended up
Speaker 5: and Charlie do you have it?
Speaker 3: Oh, we're getting there, okay.
Speaker 5: But once you started getting guys like Giannis and Jaw
Speaker 5: and like guys like that winning that award, it to me,
Speaker 5: it just lost its.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, dra it's Jimmy Butler, uh CJ McCollum, Jannie
Speaker 1: vict Oladipo, Siakam Bingie, Julius Randall, Jah Lourie Tyrese. Yeah
Speaker 1: that it started wilding there and then Paul George was
Speaker 1: the year before.
Speaker 7: But you still get the ones that sneak through, you know,
Speaker 7: like Randall, he was kind of down and out, you know,
Speaker 7: every like everyone kind of laughed at that deal the
Speaker 7: next game and like, hey, the guy put together a
Speaker 7: great season, like he looks incredible, that's most improved.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yeah jah.
Speaker 7: Going from like rookie and sophomore star taking like the
Speaker 7: super star weep. It's like, yeah, it's good for you,
Speaker 7: But like I'm more into the you know, like you
Speaker 7: said with Gordon tragis where it's like, oh, you went
Speaker 7: from like a role player to like, hey, this is
Speaker 7: like a orderline all star type guy. Yeah, those those
Speaker 7: are the kind of ones I go for. You know,
Speaker 7: I'd love to see it be Like, it kind of
Speaker 7: bothers me because it's like you got all NBA, you got.
Speaker 3: All Star or whatever.
Speaker 7: We've got all these different awards to hand out to
Speaker 7: like the big names, and it's like, hey, what's wrong
Speaker 7: with handing an award to like a Tryston Daniels or
Speaker 7: a Tied Jerome or a Norm Powell Exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I hope we see that this year.
Speaker 1: I think also too, like it would bring it helps
Speaker 1: people kind of it brings more attention to a player
Speaker 1: that otherwise isn't getting that same shine because if you're
Speaker 1: a casual watching like I do a lot of the
Speaker 1: other times too, Like because I'm so Laker focused but
Speaker 1: also keep mine on the rest of the league. But
Speaker 1: that does help to be like, oh, thank you, now
Speaker 1: I have someone to actually look into a little bit
Speaker 1: and appreciate their performances, rather than like, yeah, I knew
Speaker 1: John Moran would be back. Yeah, yeah, but hey, here
Speaker 1: we are. But let's get into the Warriors. My goodness.
Speaker 1: I caught that Pelicans game. I caught that Spurs game.
Speaker 1: I saw a stat. You guys are eleven and oh
Speaker 1: with that starting five of Draymond, Steph, Jimmy, who have Moses,
Speaker 1: Moody and Pajemski, right, yes, sir man. Well you look,
Speaker 1: March was a wild month, you know, because because Steph
Speaker 1: just came back. But at it for a certain point
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of up and down. I know,
Speaker 1: I was like, don't let this be my nightmare. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see this researching Warriors team. But here
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, I mean, like this has been I
Speaker 1: think I think like most people seeing that Jimmy Butler
Speaker 1: trade and seeing how they're playing now, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: this is kind of working out right now. They're eighteen
Speaker 1: and four since Jimmy joined at the deadline before that trade,
Speaker 1: plus sixty six hundred to win the title now plus
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds, So you.
Speaker 7: Know they're making their way up.
Speaker 1: They're making their way up. Just looking at some of
Speaker 1: the matchups though for this season, Let's see the Nuggets
Speaker 1: and two see the Grizzlies to okay, two on one
Speaker 1: on the Grizzlies and yeah, there's a zero zero and
Speaker 1: three versus the Lake. But wow, and then that's prior
Speaker 1: to us signing Huka. Okay, okay, wow. But I guess
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: There's.
Speaker 7: What since this aforementioned has been acquired, who has the
Speaker 7: better record?
Speaker 1: Why are we looking at it? But why why are
Speaker 1: we on trial right now?
Speaker 4: Apples and Norges, Sir, focus.
Speaker 1: On what I'm saying. Uh, I guess Charlie, looking at
Speaker 1: you know, the momentum going to the postseason, how did
Speaker 1: you feel prior to the trade and now on the
Speaker 1: precipice of going to the postseason, where like, what's was
Speaker 1: there a switch or you kind of felt like we
Speaker 1: might figure things out regardless of what happened with personnel.
Speaker 7: So I think what happened was going into this season
Speaker 7: with the way that their contracts lined up, with the
Speaker 7: way Steph Draymond, Steve kerr All signed. It was pretty
Speaker 7: firmly a three year window where it's like by that time,
Speaker 7: you know they're gonna have to make tough decisions. Maybe
Speaker 7: Draymond's out, maybe Curves out, maybe Steph's retired. So it
Speaker 7: looked like that three year window, and going up to
Speaker 7: the trade deadline, I'm like, this team's just struggling to
Speaker 7: stay five hundred. Like Moses Moody's good, but he doesn't
Speaker 7: have a consistent role because they need.
Speaker 3: Someone who can score a little bit more. Jemsky's struggling.
Speaker 7: Jonathan Camingez struggling because he's just not the decision maker
Speaker 7: they need him to be. So it's pretty clear that
Speaker 7: the young guys weren't supplementing their veterans enough to make
Speaker 7: this a serious team. And going into the deadline, I
Speaker 7: wasn't even I wasn't even like necessarily in the Jimmy camp.
Speaker 7: I thought maybe he was too big of a swing.
Speaker 7: I was a little bit worried about what the cost
Speaker 7: would look like. Thankfully, really not that much. You know,
Speaker 7: for I love Andrew Wiggins. It's my dog forever for
Speaker 7: that twenty twenty two run, but it kind of had
Speaker 7: to be done.
Speaker 3: The guy is just not a.
Speaker 7: Second scoring option and they needed it desperately. You just
Speaker 7: saw Steph. You looked dog tired out there, just trying
Speaker 7: to lift this offense up, even just to be average.
Speaker 7: So going into the trade deadline, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 7: just show me you're serious in some way, Like, just
Speaker 7: show me you acknowledge that there is a problem that
Speaker 7: you need to make some kind of move to cash
Speaker 7: in on these last few years. Hate saying the word still,
Speaker 7: but this whole two timelines thing, I'm like, I don't
Speaker 7: care about the second timeline. Like if Steph walks out
Speaker 7: that door and we suck for ten years, I don't
Speaker 7: care if we suck for fifteen, twenty whatever. It's like,
Speaker 7: we got the greatest player in franchise history on that run.
Speaker 7: Like that carries you for a long time. So you know,
Speaker 7: the odds of a.
Speaker 3: Rebuild coming together after that are pretty slim for any team.
Speaker 7: And I was like, just show me, show me you're serious,
Speaker 7: show me you're gonna get Stephan Draymond another shot pulled
Speaker 7: this out, and Jimmy has been that shot. He's just
Speaker 7: completely transformed them, not only on the floor, but you know,
Speaker 7: like in terms of the x's.
Speaker 3: And O is the way that they can match up,
Speaker 3: the way that they can play. Just the energy is
Speaker 3: completely back.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: They I'm sure if you caught any Warriors games earlier
Speaker 7: this season, you're just like, man, even as the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Fan, this is kind of sad.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, like just watching them like limp through
Speaker 7: games and you're like, what happened to like the you know,
Speaker 7: big dogs of the West.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the better part of the decade, and I
Speaker 1: think you know, it really showed.
Speaker 7: Okay, they're serious. They're willing to, you know, make these
Speaker 7: trades to trade some future assets and get them closer
Speaker 7: to maybe that fifth championship. I still think they're kind
Speaker 7: of in that territory in the West where you've got Okay,
Speaker 7: see obviously at the top, you've got Houston, who young, exciting.
Speaker 3: I don't really think that they're gonna be able to
Speaker 3: get there yet, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like every time there's been like that's like, oh,
Speaker 7: this is the game where you can prove themselves, it
Speaker 7: just doesn't really pan out. So and then you've got
Speaker 7: this other tier where it's like denver La and the
Speaker 7: Warriors now where it's like you know, the the rosters
Speaker 7: have some flaws, but they've got those guys.
Speaker 3: You know, they've got Yokich, They've got Lebron, Luca, Jimmy, Steph,
Speaker 3: those guys where it's just like, man, I don't want
Speaker 3: to play them in.
Speaker 7: The playoffs to activate No, Yeah, it's like they're gonna
Speaker 7: those are playoff killers and you don't want to.
Speaker 3: Base them off. So you know, I still think this
Speaker 3: this team's got a lot more exciting.
Speaker 7: I don't think it was like the switch fully flipped, like,
Speaker 7: oh yeah, this is a contender now. But we've seen
Speaker 7: it work. As you mentioned that starting lineup that they've
Speaker 7: rolled out with their new Big three and Moses and Pods.
Speaker 7: Not only eleven and oh starting they're plus twenty net
Speaker 7: rating together on the floor, they've got a ninety seven
Speaker 7: point seven defensive rating.
Speaker 3: They really take care of the ball.
Speaker 7: They get the shots, even though the offense has been
Speaker 7: kind of okay. I think they're gonna figure it out
Speaker 7: from playoff time where it's like, hey, you got Steph
Speaker 7: running around, He's impossible to account for. Jimmy's getting those
Speaker 7: duckins drawn, all those free throws Draymond can orchestrate, and
Speaker 7: they've got guys who can knock down shots so so many.
Speaker 1: I was watching just watching the Pelicans in the game
Speaker 1: against the Pelicans and the Spurs, Like when you're on,
Speaker 1: you can you could hit a three from any position
Speaker 1: on the court. Like I was like, wenton, post what
Speaker 1: are you doing, sir?
Speaker 7: Like nice dude, shout out, shout out to Quenton post Man. Yeah,
Speaker 7: he just he really surprised me. I watched like when
Speaker 7: we took him, like in the second round, they had
Speaker 7: him on the two way. I was like watching some
Speaker 7: of the tape and I was just like, I don't
Speaker 7: really know what this is here, you know, like we'll
Speaker 7: see his release looked a little slow, and they really
Speaker 7: worked on it. Like the guy just gets it out
Speaker 7: out of his hands so quickly for a big man,
Speaker 7: and you know he looks he's a little slow footed,
Speaker 7: but like they've got their like you know, din store
Speaker 7: Brook Lopez now, so they can out there, you know,
Speaker 7: get a little bigger.
Speaker 3: And the lineups with him work really well too.
Speaker 7: When they can throw Jimmy out there and it's like, hey,
Speaker 7: you've got a seven footter working outside. He's a lethal shooter.
Speaker 7: He gets it off quick and then Jimmy's just going
Speaker 7: to work in the post.
Speaker 3: On these wings.
Speaker 7: You know, he's taking them the task, he's drawing fouls,
Speaker 7: he's getting his buckets down there. So they've really figured
Speaker 7: some stuff out. And it went from early in the
Speaker 7: season whereas like they got a bunch of players, but
Speaker 7: I don't really know who's like this locked in playoff.
Speaker 3: Rotation that they're gonna have. Now it's like, man, you've
Speaker 3: got a.
Speaker 7: Killer starter five and then you've got Gary Payton. Hope
Speaker 7: he gets healthy. He's been playing really well. Quinnin post
Speaker 7: is looking really nice too. And also, man, shout out
Speaker 7: to Gee Santos. He's another guy like alongside with Posts,
Speaker 7: he's kind of just come out of nowhere, yeah, and
Speaker 7: just started contributing. Like the guy hustles, he knows where
Speaker 7: to be. He's a demon on the glass. He can
Speaker 7: hit some open shots. So if they really got like
Speaker 7: a nice cohesive playoff rotation together.
Speaker 5: Now yeah, So with the so with the postseason in mind,
Speaker 5: you know, we kind of you know, alluded to some
Speaker 5: of their matchups or how they've done.
Speaker 4: Against these teams.
Speaker 5: Give me your nightmare matchup as well as the matchup
Speaker 5: that you would feel like you know, it's yeah, totally
Speaker 5: comfortable with the road to the end.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean the nightmare me is falling into
Speaker 7: the play in and having to play the Clippers because
Speaker 7: the Clippers.
Speaker 3: Just have our number, Like the Clippers have just had
Speaker 3: our number recently.
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, there's a lot of teams in this Western Conference
Speaker 7: picture who do have our number as of late. I mean,
Speaker 7: you know, playing obviously, we've got our demons. There's the
Speaker 7: lebron Oh seeing three baskets, you know, uh self mythologizing
Speaker 7: or whatever, but yeah, hey he hit the shot.
Speaker 3: That was brutal stem Yeah, if I saw.
Speaker 7: That one basket, and so there's that, and then jaw
Speaker 7: hitting the floater on us. Obviously getting boat raced by
Speaker 7: Sacramento last year was pretty rough. Play with the oper
Speaker 7: but I mean the play is tough enough, and then
Speaker 7: the Clippers just really really match up well, they can
Speaker 7: go small, they can match up with those lineups, and
Speaker 7: then we just don't have an answer for Zubox on
Speaker 7: the glass.
Speaker 3: So that that right there is scary.
Speaker 7: In terms of like, you know, if they're six seed
Speaker 7: or above, they're getting like a real you know, seven
Speaker 7: game matchup out of the gate. Scariest for me is
Speaker 7: still Denver. We've lost nine in a row against the Nuggets.
Speaker 7: Jokic just continually beats us up. Even when Jokic was out.
Speaker 7: The last time we played them, like Aaron Gordon just
Speaker 7: went off. He couldn't miss, and it just you know,
Speaker 7: that's like one of those games where you're just like, hey,
Speaker 7: you know, we haven't really figured out the MVP, but
Speaker 7: maybe we can get him without yet Oh never mind,
Speaker 7: he just hit like seven threes.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we just can't beat you guys.
Speaker 7: And then LA I still wonder because I feel like
Speaker 7: the Luca Lebron dynamic has kind of changed things because yeah,
Speaker 7: obviously those two going toe to toe is like crazy. Offensively,
Speaker 7: that's hard to deal with, But when they match up
Speaker 7: with the Lakers, I feel like a lot of it
Speaker 7: is Okay, you're gonna have Jimmy and Moses Moody in
Speaker 7: Luca and Lebron's faces. They'll do a pretty good job
Speaker 7: at that. Austin Reeves is obviously crucial because he's that
Speaker 7: third option. He's the shot maker. I wrote this article
Speaker 7: like a year ago. It was after the Lakers and
Speaker 7: Warriors matched up in the playoffs. A couple of seasons ago,
Speaker 7: but I tracked all of the primary defenders of Steph
Speaker 7: Curry and how they perform in the playoffs relative to
Speaker 7: their normal shooting percentages. And if you go all the
Speaker 7: way back, like all the history of Steph, on average,
Speaker 7: the guy who takes the primary staphf matchup is four
Speaker 7: points off his true shooting percentage. And I'm no biomechanics guy,
Speaker 7: but I feel like chasing around the guy who runs
Speaker 7: the most in the league is probably gonna take your
Speaker 7: legs out. You know, those open shots that Lebron and
Speaker 7: Luca get for him, maybe he doesn't have his legs
Speaker 7: under them as much. You know, maybe those closed out
Speaker 7: attack floaters just don't have the same juice, or you know,
Speaker 7: he can't commit with the same oop to drawing his fouls.
Speaker 7: So like, weirdly enough, I'm a little more optimistic about
Speaker 7: the Lakers matchup since they got Luca, because I'm like, hey,
Speaker 7: if you guys.
Speaker 3: If you want to go small ball with us, like,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to beat us at our game.
Speaker 7: I know that that's the Lakers game too, but I'm like,
Speaker 7: at least you're doing it on our territory. Sure, like
Speaker 7: the teams with a hill or a big man, you
Speaker 7: know where It's like we had we never had an
Speaker 7: answer for Anthony Davis and Lebron front court. We could
Speaker 7: just never figure that out with the personnel we had.
Speaker 7: And yeah, the Lakers have some really good small ball lineups.
Speaker 7: But I'm like, hey, at least we get to play
Speaker 7: the way we want. We're going to try to play fast.
Speaker 7: We're not getting just like offensive rebounded to death and
Speaker 7: second chanced all the way out of the game. So yeah,
Speaker 7: I'd say firmly that Clippers playing matchup scares me. Then
Speaker 7: I got to go Denver because they got a number.
Speaker 7: And then the Lakers, beyond that, kind of feel good
Speaker 7: about a lot of the matchups that they have on
Speaker 7: the board.
Speaker 4: Memphis, Houston, all of those guys. You see it coming.
Speaker 3: Memphis, Memphis. I mean, you know, if if if you say, our.
Speaker 7: First round matchup is going to come against the team
Speaker 7: that just fired their coach, the guys pushing each other
Speaker 7: on the sidelines.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I'll take that. You know, I'll take stability versus whatever
Speaker 3: that is. Like, they got a.
Speaker 7: Bunch of individual talent, but I just don't trust them
Speaker 7: to come together as.
Speaker 3: A team Houston. I mean, what can I say?
Speaker 7: Since February twenty twenty, there have been as many pandemic
Speaker 7: as a Houston Rockets wins against the Warriors. And I know,
Speaker 7: I know they've leveled up this year, but like you know,
Speaker 7: we are sixteen and one. Since yeah, we're sixteen and one,
Speaker 7: and I know that this year is the year that
Speaker 7: they've leveled up. We still got their number this year.
Speaker 7: They're exciting, they got all these athletes.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 7: I don't trust them to score at all against our
Speaker 7: defense in a playoff series.
Speaker 3: They really just don't scare me that much.
Speaker 7: I mean, really, my hottest take is I think on
Speaker 7: this Warriors team that of all the teams that could
Speaker 7: realistically fall to be the eight seed, I think the
Speaker 7: Warriors have by far the best chance against the Thunder.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean the Thunder are buzzsaw right now.
Speaker 3: They look incredible.
Speaker 7: But I go back to a matchup we had against
Speaker 7: them earlier this year where it was kind of like
Speaker 7: the old Thunder matchups after Katie and Harden were gone
Speaker 7: and it was just Russ and Russ cooking, and they said,
Speaker 7: you know what, Russ, you're getting single c We're putting
Speaker 7: our best perimeter defender on you. Whatever you do against us, fine.
Speaker 3: We're not going to let you pass.
Speaker 7: We're not going to let other people get involved. And
Speaker 7: they ran that same game plan last time against the Thunder.
Speaker 7: I think Shay got like fifty four on us or something,
Speaker 7: and we we had it the whole way. Yeah, like
Speaker 7: he's doing everything he could. But you single cover everybody,
Speaker 7: you know, you don't let Jayalen Williams get into space,
Speaker 7: you don't let their shooters get open. They were just floundering.
Speaker 7: And I mean that was still with injuries, you know,
Speaker 7: like Chet wasn't back yet. So it does change things
Speaker 7: on the defensive end of the floor.
Speaker 3: But I kind of think they got.
Speaker 7: A puncher's chance even against you know, like a what
Speaker 7: should be a seventy win team.
Speaker 1: I don't mind if you did that dirty work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 5: I'm personally I'm invested in Golden State or any other
Speaker 5: team if they would like to. If you want to
Speaker 5: get rid of OKC on not our behalf, but yes,
Speaker 5: on our behalf.
Speaker 1: On our behalf, yes, yes please do. I love this
Speaker 1: idea of you guys falling to the eighth seat to
Speaker 1: then do battle with the thunder. Yes, yes, yes, this
Speaker 1: is a fine idea, This is a fine property, I say,
Speaker 1: I enjoy this. Indeed, all right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we're going to come back to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit more about basketball and maybe actually, no not
Speaker 1: maybe definitely do some contender v Pretender or Chicken tender
Speaker 1: after this and we're back. And look, it's not all
Speaker 1: guns n' roses for the Lakers.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we do wobble a bit. And I just want
Speaker 1: to point something out because this was I think very
Speaker 1: painful for Jabari and I and all my friends who
Speaker 1: are Laker fans on this very chaotic text threat. I
Speaker 1: got going when we played the Chicago Bulls last week.
Speaker 1: This was a close game. It was coming down to
Speaker 1: the stretch. The Lakers were going out of body to
Speaker 1: keep this game close, and then we get hit with
Speaker 1: a buzzer beater from old Giddy himself. Okay, and I
Speaker 1: almost turned inside out watching Lebron James make some of
Speaker 1: the most elementary mistakes I was, I truly was watching
Speaker 1: and I was like this, My face turned.
Speaker 4: I said, what is it?
Speaker 1: Who is that? Who that? Who is that? That's that Lebron?
Speaker 1: But we were talking about this off Mike and I said, no, no,
Speaker 1: we might as well just talk about this, Jabbar. I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll take this wherever you want to go, because I
Speaker 1: think this was one of those moments that I thought,
Speaker 1: may for a second, we're like, okay, let's see what
Speaker 1: Chicago does. They didn't, They didn't quite take that momentum
Speaker 1: into the next couple of games, but it was a moment.
Speaker 5: The entire fourth quarter. I mean, we can, we can
Speaker 5: be upfront about this. You know, the Bulls hit eleven
Speaker 5: or fourteen from deep wild, I mean you wh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: But the truth of the matter is, even with the
Speaker 5: hot shooting, even with you know, the Lakers selling all
Speaker 5: the way throughout, they had a six point lead with
Speaker 5: less than thirty seconds left. Yeah, they had a six
Speaker 5: point lead with less than thirty seconds left, and they
Speaker 5: ended up they ended up losing that game. You know,
Speaker 5: the sky isn't falling, but on that night in particular,
Speaker 5: it certainly felt like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I really, you know, this is the
Speaker 1: best part about being a Laker fan is that you
Speaker 1: are so unwell mentally that you could just watch Dan
Speaker 1: go up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm throwing it all the way.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, that's it. I'm a I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a Sacramento Kings fan. Now I don't care, let's light
Speaker 1: the beam. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm off this, but this is my shout out to
Speaker 7: the homie Richard normal one of my like Mount Rushmore
Speaker 7: tweets where he said, one of the core principles of
Speaker 7: fascism is the party in charge has to make themselves
Speaker 7: believe that they are the oppressed party.
Speaker 3: The Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, absolute.
Speaker 7: Yes.
Speaker 5: The best way to show that is when this show started,
Speaker 5: the Lakers had won a title just two years prior,
Speaker 5: right as we were talking about it. You know, I
Speaker 5: think it was on the pilot episode that we were
Speaker 5: doing with Jack, and I think I said something like, man,
Speaker 5: it's been it's been a tough couple of years.
Speaker 1: Man, did we know?
Speaker 5: He said, and they basically he just reminded me how
Speaker 5: old are you? And I, you know, explained to him
Speaker 5: at the time early forties, the Lakers had played you know,
Speaker 5: have played in like thirteen finals in my life. You know,
Speaker 5: it's something along those lines. But I recognize we are
Speaker 5: you know, as Miles said, we are unwell.
Speaker 1: We are unwell.
Speaker 5: It is a true expectation. It is not these aren't
Speaker 5: These aren't.
Speaker 1: Acts, because it does it think you're not even watching basketball.
Speaker 1: You're saying and in this year's version of Lakers are
Speaker 1: gonna give me a championship. Yeah, like that's good.
Speaker 3: Sexual.
Speaker 1: It's not about how's the team doing. Ever, It's like, well,
Speaker 1: it's yeah here, I'm like exactly, I'm like, y'all, I
Speaker 1: have twenty fingers in toes, So y'all got work. You
Speaker 1: got three more things to do before I fill out
Speaker 1: my whole all my digits.
Speaker 4: What are we doing?
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be walking around clinking all day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have terrible foot injuries from wearing all these rings
Speaker 1: on my feet. But yeah, I mean, what did you
Speaker 1: have any thoughts on watching that? That regression from Lebron?
Speaker 1: It was just kind of it was it was it
Speaker 1: was breathtaking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 7: Jarring because I don't think I've ever seen i mean
Speaker 7: maybe like Miami, like against Dallas when he looked kind
Speaker 7: of rattled. That was like the only like I'm so
Speaker 7: used to him just being superhuman all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that like seeing him just like have a brain fart
Speaker 7: is so crazy.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 7: First of all, my main takeaway is Stacey King is
Speaker 7: unbelievable at what he does. Like the Elizabeth I'm coming
Speaker 7: home just on the call.
Speaker 3: Was just trying me.
Speaker 4: That was so good.
Speaker 7: But I like watched it back, you know, because I
Speaker 7: saw like, oh, they got the bucket and then like
Speaker 7: steal off the inbound of the three and then rewind
Speaker 7: it because I'm like, wait, wait, wait, it was like
Speaker 7: that could not that couldn't have been Bron. It's like
Speaker 7: he just threw it right to him. I was like,
Speaker 7: it's not even like you know, it was a little
Speaker 7: off target and it went off the hands or whatever.
Speaker 3: I was like, he just smoked that one. You know.
Speaker 3: I was like what is this?
Speaker 7: And that was the craziest part to me, you know,
Speaker 7: I'm like, you know, wild stuff like that happens, you
Speaker 7: know a few times a year where it's like some
Speaker 7: team just gets like ten points and thirty seconds and
Speaker 7: turns a game on its head.
Speaker 3: But seeing Lebron be at the center of it, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's crazy.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: It's like when you see like a grandparents start moving
Speaker 1: a little bit slower and you're like, oh no, no.
Speaker 1: But then but then he but then but then he
Speaker 1: brought it back. I mean like he had a clutch
Speaker 1: block in the Houston game down the stretch and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, you are you are? That was a
Speaker 1: that was a wobble, like you said, a b fart,
Speaker 1: But I know what you're coming back, coming back.
Speaker 5: I think that's you know that that remains the craziest
Speaker 5: thing about Lebron is because the reality is someone with
Speaker 5: the weird tear that he has on his body, you
Speaker 5: would expect him to have more instances like that. Charlie
Speaker 5: just described the fact that that's the anomaly is still
Speaker 5: just the craziest.
Speaker 1: Thing, right, right, right, No, exactly exactly, Well, Charlie, since
Speaker 1: we have a great basketball mind, someone who covers the league, we'd.
Speaker 4: Like to do this.
Speaker 1: Now that we're getting into the postseason, it's time to
Speaker 1: play a little contender verse pretender, and then last week
Speaker 1: we added or chicken tender. If they don't fit either
Speaker 1: of those descriptors, so I guess we'll start. Just give
Speaker 1: us your breakdown, contender, pretender or chicken tender if applicable.
Speaker 1: First up, the Pacers seven and three over the last ten.
Speaker 1: They are on pace to potentially top the preseason win
Speaker 1: over under projection of forty six and a half. Okay,
Speaker 1: feels like a traditional indie squad, fun competitive, but is
Speaker 1: there enough when facing the top contenders of the disting conference? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Not enough exactly. There go GNX Charlie. What do you
Speaker 1: think now? Can they push through or are they pretending?
Speaker 1: Or are they battered and fried and delicious?
Speaker 3: Oh? You know I do. I do fall on battered,
Speaker 3: fried and delicious with a nice little, nice little dipping
Speaker 3: sauce on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I think what we saw last year,
Speaker 7: they got some good luck, you know, with the Bucks
Speaker 7: being just like decimated with injuries in that first round series,
Speaker 7: which might still be the matchup this year, it depends,
Speaker 7: but and then the Knicks had their issues.
Speaker 3: They pushed through. I don't think they're in contender status.
Speaker 7: I think when you just look at that top two
Speaker 7: in the East, I don't think anyone else in the
Speaker 7: East is touching that. Yeah, but you know, they're not
Speaker 7: quite pretenders to me, because I think a lot of
Speaker 7: what we see out there is real, uh, you know.
Speaker 7: Shout out to one of my guys I've written about
Speaker 7: a few times, aaron Ne Smith. They lost him for
Speaker 7: the majority of the season, and it's no coincidence that
Speaker 7: him being bad has coordinated with them rising up the
Speaker 7: standings because he's so crucial to what they do. He
Speaker 7: creates a lot of turnovers on the defensive end, takes
Speaker 7: all their primary matchups, handles them really well.
Speaker 3: Guy's just a ball of energy too.
Speaker 7: He's getting out in transition, He's just flying into the paint.
Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys have seen the meme
Speaker 7: that I think about all the time with him, where
Speaker 7: it's like nobody and then aaron Ne Smith and it's
Speaker 7: uh Ralph Willham diving headfirst through the window him all
Speaker 7: like every time I watch a Pacers game, like he's
Speaker 7: on the ground every three minutes.
Speaker 3: But he's crucial to that.
Speaker 7: Obviously, Tyreese like took him a while, like he had
Speaker 7: that late season injury that I think kind of bothered
Speaker 7: him into the early season, you know, like we saw
Speaker 7: he wasn't really playing in.
Speaker 3: The Olympics because of it.
Speaker 7: He's still like the star point guard that we all
Speaker 7: saw and the Sea Acam trade has still worked out
Speaker 7: really well for them at where I heard it, but
Speaker 7: they are like, you know, if you need twenty five
Speaker 7: out of pascital, he's giving you twenty. And if you
Speaker 7: only needed fifteen, he's giving you twenty. You know, he's
Speaker 7: just that kind of guy where he's just so steady, consistent.
Speaker 7: I really like what they're building, but yeah, I can't
Speaker 7: get all the way to contender.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: So but that's the good point because you didn't also
Speaker 1: want to I'm not saying slander them, but you didn't
Speaker 1: want to mischaracterize them as a pretender. So in this case,
Speaker 1: they are a chicken tender. Chicken tender, they are delicious
Speaker 1: and respect to her. Yeah, Okay, like we found a
Speaker 1: new category. This is how this is what happens when
Speaker 1: you stay fluid, baby.
Speaker 3: A little bit, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's not but yeah, and disrespectfully snacking on him
Speaker 1: like to nourish my body. That's respect, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Jabari, who's next?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: The Minnesota Timberwolves also seven and three over the last ten.
Speaker 5: You know, but they were a team that, to be
Speaker 5: honest with you, I kind of rid them off. Admittedly,
Speaker 5: midway through the year they were hovering around five hundred
Speaker 5: as recently as February. Quietly they are eleven and three
Speaker 5: over the last stretch, but you know, don't look too
Speaker 5: deeply into their strength to schedule over that stretch and
Speaker 5: we'll just ignore that. Exactly where are you on them, Charlie,
Speaker 5: Like are they are they going to be in the
Speaker 5: play in or are they going to do any damage
Speaker 5: this postseason?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's where I was going to go and
Speaker 7: meet you already beat me to the spot there.
Speaker 3: Month of March. We all love Mickey Mouse March.
Speaker 7: Shout out to the home meet till bro dude at
Speaker 7: Uno Ball podcast for that term.
Speaker 3: That's just lasered into my brain. Now. So they played
Speaker 3: in the month of March. How many teams do you
Speaker 3: think they played that were five hundred or better?
Speaker 4: I think it's one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was? Is it three?
Speaker 3: They got four? Making me real bad?
Speaker 1: But sorry, we're being dismissive though, that's the point.
Speaker 7: And two they lost two to the Pacers of all teams.
Speaker 7: In fact, they beat Detroit and they beat Denver. I
Speaker 7: believe that was a Denver game other than they did
Speaker 7: have yokis my bad. That was a healthy Denver team
Speaker 7: hand up. But still, like I remember looking into it
Speaker 7: when the Warriors really hit their stride after the trade
Speaker 7: deadline and it's like, Okay, we gotta leave over Minnesota.
Speaker 7: We got to leave over the Clippers, we got to
Speaker 7: get over the Kings. Like there was a lot of
Speaker 7: hurdles that they had to clear. And I remember instantly someone.
Speaker 3: Sent me the Wolves rest of the season schedule and
Speaker 3: they were just like ugh, like it's.
Speaker 1: Just no, actually it's pronounced oh yeah, yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: real yeah.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think I think I falled more towards pretender.
Speaker 7: And it's not that I have anything against the Wolves players.
Speaker 7: I just think, yes, the salary cap is what it
Speaker 7: is now. The cowardice to have the best team that
Speaker 7: you had in twenty years and immediately break it up. Yeah,
Speaker 7: for you know, for money reasons, Like there was no
Speaker 7: other reason.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: They they got all the way there, they had such
Speaker 7: a good thing going. They finally figured out how to
Speaker 7: bear cat and go bear together, Like he've got aunt
Speaker 7: taken this leap and then they're like everyone just makes
Speaker 7: too much money on a conference finals team, right, and
Speaker 7: it's just brutal, Like the shooting leap has been real
Speaker 7: this year.
Speaker 3: He's still struggling.
Speaker 7: With the defensive attention given to him. I like Julius
Speaker 7: Randall and small doses. But you know, looking at like
Speaker 7: everyone's just like, oh, look at Julius over the last like,
Speaker 7: you know, ten, They're like, oh, they've won like the
Speaker 7: last ten games they've had together, And I'm like, well, yeah,
Speaker 7: of course they've beaten the Hornets, the Heat, the Magic,
Speaker 7: the Jazz, right, the Pelicans twice.
Speaker 1: You look at it like this then, yeah, very narrowly
Speaker 1: right here and no other context around that. Yes, fantastic.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you like got the horse blinders on, Like I
Speaker 7: could see a good team, but I just fall on Pretender.
Speaker 3: I think they may they have some teams that they.
Speaker 7: Match up well against, you know, like I think if
Speaker 7: I'm Denver, I'm looking at them and be like, please
Speaker 7: not again, Like I just don't I want to deal
Speaker 7: with this, but yeah, I don't know, I just don't
Speaker 7: really buy it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1: And finally, and I think we touched on this before,
Speaker 1: but the Golden State Warriors Pretender, Contender, Chicken Tender, Oh
Speaker 1: like or Bender from Futurama up to you? Is it
Speaker 1: a futuristic robot with a snarky mouth.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Fender are they yes, Fender Stratocaster.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 7: I'm going with the lowest cee, lowest case possible contemper
Speaker 7: And it's the same time i feel about like Denver
Speaker 7: in La where I'm like, you know, I don't love
Speaker 7: them against Okay, see who's clearly the best in the West.
Speaker 7: But it's the same how I feel about I'm like, hey,
Speaker 7: someone else, you know does the dirty work.
Speaker 3: For them and or you know, like injury strikes whatever.
Speaker 7: I feel the same way about like the Warriors, where
Speaker 7: I'm like, hey, if they get all the way to
Speaker 7: the finals.
Speaker 1: Any as possible, oh that point, get out.
Speaker 7: Of the blood path. That's the West. I know the
Speaker 7: Cavs are incredible. I know the Celtics are incredible. I've
Speaker 7: seen what we do to these Celtics and I've seen
Speaker 7: it too, seen what we do to teams that try
Speaker 7: to run the twin Towers, you know, double big lineup.
Speaker 3: I'm like, hmmm, you know.
Speaker 7: I see a vision like I see a very narrow path,
Speaker 7: but there is a path, you know, on the on
Speaker 7: the little Poetrate's tip.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a very narrow path.
Speaker 7: But you know, I'm looking into the future and I'm seeing, Hey,
Speaker 7: if the matchups break the right way, you know, maybe
Speaker 7: they get some some right shooting. Luck we need we
Speaker 7: need Arwani Walker right, but you know I see a
Speaker 7: world where it could happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean great reference. Uh, but can you get
Speaker 1: past Shia who is just kay Alexander?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: That's I'm sorry, I really.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, guys, trust me, I have not.
Speaker 1: That taking a Okay, we're gonna take a break and
Speaker 1: when we come back to fourth quarter, wrapid fire around
Speaker 1: of questioning with Charlie Cummings, and we're back. Charlie Cummings,
Speaker 1: It's been a fantastic appearance for you, I must say,
Speaker 1: but we are going to have to turn up the
Speaker 1: spice level. We're gonna have to turn up the heat. No, Miami,
Speaker 1: we are going to be very rude and aggressive with
Speaker 1: you in this fourth quarter rapid fire round with questioning,
Speaker 1: the fastest question and answer a segment in all sports
Speaker 1: podcasting history. We ask you a question, don't do like
Speaker 1: a big intellectual run up to your answer. This is
Speaker 1: a three man weave drill. Don't put the ball down,
Speaker 1: you fire it right back from the chest.
Speaker 4: Point four seconds on the clock, exactly half a second
Speaker 4: or last offense.
Speaker 1: You going there? You go?
Speaker 6: You ready, Charlie, let's do it, Bryan start the clock.
Speaker 6: Hi Bryan, Okay.
Speaker 1: Jabart please go first as the guest co host.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I appreciate that. Charlie. Are you ready?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, so you.
Speaker 5: Already messed up. You've already answered that question. You are
Speaker 5: wasting every time. This is the rapid fire arms. So Charlie,
Speaker 5: are you ready? Thank you kindly.
Speaker 4: Okay, you still delayed, so that wasted our time. Yeh?
Speaker 5: Did Manta in fact have it all? And how fun
Speaker 5: would Monta be in today's game?
Speaker 7: Mister have it all? Always would be sick?
Speaker 1: Well mm hmm okay, okay, you do have to give
Speaker 1: us a little bit more than that, a little bit more.
Speaker 7: Yeah, ooh, I mean any of the don Nelson guys, man,
Speaker 7: run it up. The guy could create a shot with
Speaker 7: the best of them. I love I love yea.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, yeah, more on that later, thanks, Charlie.
Speaker 1: Next question, man, we got to keep this moving and
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Man, clearly you're a fan.
Speaker 4: But here we go.
Speaker 1: Next question. More dominant player Draymond in MJ's era or
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman starting his career in twenty fourteen to.
Speaker 7: Now Draymond with Jordan Rules. Give me that all day. Yeah,
Speaker 7: well you can punch in his stomping his way through
Speaker 7: the nineties.
Speaker 4: I had not thought about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that is the perfect is.
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 1: What happened? It gets him a hackeen that.
Speaker 4: I don't think.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, I don't think anyone's breaking up that fight.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, okay, keeping it going, keeping
Speaker 1: it going, Yeah, Charlie, Man, that's really on you, bro.
Speaker 1: You really got to keep this thing going.
Speaker 5: Man, Okay, you can pick any former dub legend to
Speaker 5: make the run with this current squad. Who were you
Speaker 5: picking Chris Gatley? Hey, you know what after you get
Speaker 5: banged on and you dare.
Speaker 7: Hey, I could go sickle poll like Rod Higgins on
Speaker 7: some stuff.
Speaker 3: I'd love to see a new pol.
Speaker 7: But it's Mitch Richmond.
Speaker 4: It's got to be at that, yeah Richmond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just go on because I was a big
Speaker 1: Mitch Richmond fan as a younger. As a younger as
Speaker 1: they say in the UK.
Speaker 7: Yes, as a younger. Uh no, you throw in like
Speaker 7: Mitch Steph Jimmy Draymond, Like, that's some dogs right there.
Speaker 3: That's a hell of a scoring trio.
Speaker 7: Oh God give me that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to see Drake.
Speaker 1: You didn't know about what for all the dogs? Was
Speaker 1: that lineup you just mentioned, Charlie, that's for all the dogs?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean that.
Speaker 1: Let's do a little bit of trivia, shall we? Who
Speaker 1: is the all time franchise leader in rebounds per game
Speaker 1: for the Golden State Warriors?
Speaker 3: Will yes?
Speaker 1: Do you know what that was?
Speaker 3: Like? Twenty four?
Speaker 4: He's pretty damn close twenty.
Speaker 1: Five point one.
Speaker 3: If you need heard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh and Jabai hit him with the last bit
Speaker 1: of trivia.
Speaker 5: All right, bonus, best guess how many times does Steph
Speaker 5: hit ten.
Speaker 3: Or more threes in a game? Forty two?
Speaker 1: Okay, that was a little a little too much dip
Speaker 1: by your chip there.
Speaker 4: So this is the thing.
Speaker 5: This is so as as we already know, there's Lakers
Speaker 5: fans are spoiled. We are we have, you know, our expectations.
Speaker 5: The fact that he went way up that forty it
Speaker 5: was but it was also crazy. It lets you know
Speaker 5: how spoiled he's been watching stepson Tiger. It was twenty
Speaker 5: six For mortals that don't have you know, suit like that.
Speaker 5: That is just a crazy amount, So twenty six times
Speaker 5: or more.
Speaker 1: That's like I'm sure for like a Warriors fan hearing
Speaker 1: about seventeen rings or something like that.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's Ray. It's got a crazy, scary, spooky, hilarious and
Speaker 1: actually no, this is the final question. See, we like
Speaker 1: to keep you on your toes during the rabbit Fire
Speaker 1: round of questioning. Charlie Cummings, you can create your own
Speaker 1: version of Coachella or the Up and Smoke Tour using
Speaker 1: the artists of today. Give us your lineup so we
Speaker 1: can get a just a peek into your mind any
Speaker 1: musical taste.
Speaker 7: I've got three distinct categories going on. I've got a
Speaker 7: Bay Area rap, I've got a rap, and then I
Speaker 7: have got rock that your dad would listen to. Uh,
Speaker 7: we will go in reverse order. On the rock front,
Speaker 7: I've got sticks, I've got heart, and I've gotten shout
Speaker 7: out to Ann Wilson. Yeah, shout out to Pieces of
Speaker 7: eight by Sticks, one of the all time albums.
Speaker 1: Hmmm yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: In my Bay Areas, I have Mac Dre and Andre
Speaker 7: Nicotina ideally doing some songs together. Love that Andre and
Speaker 7: Andre piece. Yeah, a little bit of my homeboy Chevy.
Speaker 7: You know, we got to work that in there, and
Speaker 7: also shout out to Equipto. I'm just going full ninety
Speaker 7: Bay Area guys.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: It was tough to cut too short. It was tough
Speaker 7: to cut forty.
Speaker 4: But oh you like what you like?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well you're bringing mac Dre back obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I get that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know I'm Max Forever in a sense. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm pulling from the grave here. And for the Atlanta section,
Speaker 7: gotta have Outcast like always gonna you know, if three
Speaker 7: Stacks is going to be there, I'm going to be there.
Speaker 7: He can bring his flute if he wants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but please, but please, but please also do outcasts,
Speaker 1: you know, like I like the growth as an artist,
Speaker 1: but also I would like to hear Outcast also.
Speaker 7: Yes, of course, like we all want to see it.
Speaker 7: I gotta have Future and Thug in there too. My
Speaker 7: my specific request for their set list. I need Thug
Speaker 7: to do Barter six front to back, no skips all
Speaker 7: the way through. I need Future on there. I need
Speaker 7: him doing the Future Ann Hendricks double side, ideally a
Speaker 7: little more on the Hendrix side. Give me that soulful
Speaker 7: sad rap. Give me a little crooning. Yeah, close it
Speaker 7: all out. I need those two just doing all the
Speaker 7: hits off, super slimy.
Speaker 1: There you go. We need it, and you're just being
Speaker 1: honest as he would saying. So, actually, Charlie, you can
Speaker 1: due with us the honor of selecting the game of
Speaker 1: the week. This is the game that we tell everybody,
Speaker 1: all the listeners to check in on as we will
Speaker 1: be discussing it, barring any last minute flexing on our end.
Speaker 1: So we have four options. On Friday, we have OKAC
Speaker 1: at Houston or Nuggies at Golden State. Then Saturday Memphis
Speaker 1: at Detroit or Sunday Lakers at Oka.
Speaker 4: See, I know which one on was on?
Speaker 1: Which one is the one that you think will tell
Speaker 1: us the most about what's what's gonna happens to come.
Speaker 7: Tell us the most? I mean, I'm gonna be biased.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say Nuggets Warriors. I'm surprised if you skipped
Speaker 7: right over our little Thursday tilt.
Speaker 1: But uh oh no, that's light work, bro, That's like work,
Speaker 1: you know. That's yeah, that's what I watna get stressed smoke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's why that's why I've skipped it. Because we will
Speaker 1: not have anything like that to We're not going to
Speaker 1: put that sort of damnic leaves above our head like that.
Speaker 7: No, yeah, one one, seventeen eighty nine Bronze doing like
Speaker 7: twelve points maybe, Yeah, No, I'm going I'm going Nuggets Warriors.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: I think, like I said, nine in a row against
Speaker 7: us that I feel like is the best test of
Speaker 7: is this team for real? Right? Like can they get
Speaker 7: the monkey off their back of just being beaten over
Speaker 7: and over by that team?
Speaker 1: Hey, we did it, so can y'all you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 7: Yeah, tell them Peso did it?
Speaker 8: But you know, okay, okay, Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 8: also it is uh will move immovable object versus unstoppable
Speaker 8: force basically because with that lineup, I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 8: want to I want to see what that eleven and
Speaker 8: Ozer lineup look like with I mean because the other
Speaker 8: part too.
Speaker 1: It's always funny when I read all these stats about
Speaker 1: how how much Jokic has to do on his own,
Speaker 1: and it is baffling when you're like, who do you
Speaker 1: who do you truly have at your side? When they
Speaker 1: look back and like he played with the all time
Speaker 1: he man, Yeah, who were his teammates kind of feels
Speaker 1: that way. I mean, no disrespect to Jamal Murray, but
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of a lot of pointing out
Speaker 1: of like he doesn't have any all star teammates, no
Speaker 1: all NBA teammates.
Speaker 5: Just do it all jam Old disrespect intended for me though,
Speaker 5: just so you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, good to know, good to know.
Speaker 5: I mean, stale mad at those two game winners in
Speaker 5: the last series.
Speaker 3: Just well.
Speaker 1: Also, look, we all know that it is because of
Speaker 1: the Kendrick and Drake beef. You know it's it's ugly
Speaker 1: anyway for you know, as Californians looking at a Canadian
Speaker 1: guy like that.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, bro, that's true. Yeah, you had to fit
Speaker 7: a little Jamal slander in right at the buzzer though, didn't.
Speaker 1: You had to because we don't follow the net.
Speaker 3: Don't worry because.
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