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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian. You know what, I think everybody should

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Speaker 1: have a radar detector. I really do. I think they're

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Speaker 1: The Car Doctor. The common pattern failure for these is

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Speaker 1: a crank position censor. I'm not telling you to go

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Anian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your calls

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Speaker 1: Hey Van, any in the car Doctor here. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: stopping by this hour. I know you've got a lot

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Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon two to four pm Eastern time, and fast Harry.

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Speaker 1: We'll call you back once he gets the message. Get

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Speaker 1: you know, we do do emails. We try to do

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Speaker 1: emails ron at cardoctorshow dot com. But you've got to

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Speaker 1: understand the volume of email that we're getting is just

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Speaker 1: When we're on air, everybody benefits and we get more

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Speaker 1: this week offering to do my laundry at home. It

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Speaker 1: And number one and number two the guy's coming out

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Speaker 1: to Andrew in Auburn, Washington with a problem in a

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Speaker 1: Chevy Tahoe. Andrew, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, How

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Speaker 1: can I help hi? Ron.

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Speaker 3: I've got a two thousand and seven Chevy Tahoe, seventy

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Speaker 3: moved from North Dakota to Washington State here in August,

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Speaker 3: I've done all the maintenance, three thousand mile three month

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Speaker 3: seemed like after I came over the mountain, the thing

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Speaker 3: and decided to go to synthetic. Came out here to Washington.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that has anything to do with

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Speaker 1: what brand of synthetic?

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Speaker 1: All right? All right, ask and Mobile one. Mobile One's

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Speaker 1: think the answer is going to be that it's something

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Speaker 1: to do with the change the synthetic. But go ahead,

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Speaker 3: Sure, they decided to do an oil consumption test on it.

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Speaker 3: Filled there all the way back up, brought it in

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Speaker 1: All right? Have they talked about looking in bulletins at all?

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Speaker 3: Well, they did speak about bulletins. They spoke about rings,

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Speaker 3: seals and valve covers. They mentioned that the first bulletin

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Speaker 3: and valve covers, rings and seals. They did say that

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Speaker 3: I had never heard that kind of wanted to get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are the sevens and some of the early eights,

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Speaker 1: the GM tahoes and all the five point three motors

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Speaker 1: You know, I can give you a bulletin number if

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Speaker 1: or five revision levels of that bulletin, and it talks

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Speaker 1: about everything you discussed and more about changing the left

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Speaker 1: a deflection issue, to baffles, to carbon on the cylinder

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Speaker 1: rings because there's a no the bulletin about ring fit

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Speaker 1: and groove fit and all sorts of issues. You know,

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Speaker 1: the simple answer is going to be yes, I agree

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Speaker 1: with what they're doing. You know, if you go from

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Speaker 1: synthetic to conventional and the consumption doesn't change, then it's

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Speaker 1: teared down to inspect because if it's not leaking, it

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Speaker 1: and a three court leak means that the rear bumper

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Speaker 1: of the vehicle is now rustproofed as well as the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the vehicle. But I think you're going to

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Speaker 1: find that ultimately the issue is going to be somewhere

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Speaker 1: in that bulletin. It's going to probably be rings because

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Speaker 1: that was very common with those cars. Any extended warranty.

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Speaker 3: On this, Yes, I do have an extended warranty bumper

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm so excited to talk to you and I'm

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Speaker 4: hoping you can help me Okay, I'll tell you quick story.

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Speaker 4: I got it about five years ago. Okay, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: Wait, I went back back up a second. Can you

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Speaker 4: I don't know he's still living, but he's eighty years old,

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Speaker 4: No, this is a basic He bought this to go

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Speaker 1: I should say it like that. The ignition switch is

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Speaker 1: We want to put a one ninety four side marker bulb,

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what everybody said. They look at me, But honestly,

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Speaker 4: But then it happened one time in my card died again.

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Speaker 4: They replaced the soul annoid again, and then it happened

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Speaker 1: All right, here's but here's here's what I want to do.

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Speaker 1: All right, do you know what new means new new?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what new means? You're a regularly you're

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, so yeah, we've got to remember that new

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Speaker 1: good because new means never ever worked. Patty, you give

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