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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff You Should Know

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<v Speaker 1>from House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and I'm with Charles Bryant

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<v Speaker 1>Who we heard about that today? Right, someone started podcast

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's Illinois though, but they wrote about

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<v Speaker 1>it in the paper, right, Yeah, they got to write

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<v Speaker 1>up in the paper. Pretty cool. Yeah. Okay, before we

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<v Speaker 1>And then that night another stuff you should know Trivia Night,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a huge success, huge success in New York

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<v Speaker 1>last year. So it's just two years ago, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago. Yeah. Uh about this time too. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was October, wasn't it. Yeah. Um, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole day, the whole day of your life in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, packed with stuff you should know, featuring

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck and myself. So this is gonna be great. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and I know it's just me, but I like saying myself. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna have details for sure on that. We're

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<v Speaker 1>locking down the menu hopefully as we speak, and um

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<v Speaker 1>locking down our all star celebrity trivia team as we speak.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're out there and you're an all star celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to play with us. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great call out up. We're still assembling our team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of the stalwarts are going to be out

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<v Speaker 1>of town, which is disappointing. So we're looking for for

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<v Speaker 1>comers as it were, Yes, as it were, And we're

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<v Speaker 1>also looking for commers to challenge us and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>and Duke get out on the trivia floor. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be fun for free, that's right. And there will be

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<v Speaker 1>adult libations involved if you're into that. Probably if you're

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<v Speaker 1>into that, and Uh, that's about it. Anything else. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's high time we started the episode. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for bearing with us. I guess everyone, Uh, let's see, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little under the weather today. I know I'm fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm not I'm not gonna get sick. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, man, that that one day where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you're right before you're about to get better the worst day,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're just not going to get sick, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I don't have like five days

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<v Speaker 1>of sickness ahead of me. I've got bagel days of

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<v Speaker 1>sickness ahead of me. You're saying this like positive thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the deal? Okay? Yeah? I found that my

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<v Speaker 1>mind body connection is really really strong, especially in the

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<v Speaker 1>horrible way where I'm like, I'm not gonna get sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I'm getting sick though, Am I getting sick?

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, I'm sick. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I just talked myself into getting sick. But that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you just talk to yourself into getting well. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying it out. It's mental gymnastics. Uh, sometimes it works. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess let me just go ahead and start

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<v Speaker 1>and get this one over with. Okay. I like this one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not bad. You realize that's half of an article I

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<v Speaker 1>sent you before that. You you're like, now, let's not

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<v Speaker 1>do this one. Yeah, the origin of life on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>But didn't we do that? We never did that? Well

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<v Speaker 1>there was a reason. Wow, I believe it now. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can do the other half. We'll do. This

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<v Speaker 1>is like part of a two part suite about where

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<v Speaker 1>life on Earth came from Mars. Maybe there's another way,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is my intro. There's another possible way, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's something called a biogenesis, and a biogenesis basically says

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<v Speaker 1>that all the proteins needed to form RNA. Somehow we're

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<v Speaker 1>present in the early Earth and the primordial soup, and

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<v Speaker 1>somehow they came together in a structure that was RNA.

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<v Speaker 1>And RNA is a pretty specific, weird little thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>that it can not only replicate itself, it can make

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<v Speaker 1>new stuff too, so it can build d N A,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can also replicate itself. It sounds like something

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<v Speaker 1>Ridley Scott movie, very much so. And they think that

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<v Speaker 1>RNA somehow came together and over the course of millions

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<v Speaker 1>of years, in all these different trials and errors, finally

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<v Speaker 1>started to form DNA, which kick started life. The origin

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<v Speaker 1>of life was just a bunch of proteins that came together.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of reasons people pooh pooh this.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people a lot of creationists say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Occam's razor, which you scientists love so much,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that's it? Or that somebody created us?

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<v Speaker 1>So the abiogenesis hypothesis, maybe theory by now has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of has some holes in it, but it's really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk in depth about that in another one.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is about the big rival to a biogenesis.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's called panspermia, which is a pretty pretty neat name.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? Seeds everywhere? Yeah, seeds everywhere over

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<v Speaker 1>the place, panspermia. And it's from a guy in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen o six Swede whose name is pretty awesome, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Savante Argennis, who wrote a book called Worlds in the Making,

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<v Speaker 1>and he coined the term pants fermia. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>um about fifty or so years maybe thirty or so

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<v Speaker 1>years before him, um that the idea of pants fermia

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<v Speaker 1>was first put forth by Lord Kelvin. Yeah, the famous

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<v Speaker 1>Lord Kelvin, British physicist, mega famous. I mean not many

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<v Speaker 1>people get a temperature scale named after him. No, there's not,

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<v Speaker 1>just the Tommy Celsius and Billy Fahrenheit man and Lord

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<v Speaker 1>Kelvin trimember that is. Uh. So his idea was that

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<v Speaker 1>seed bearing meteorites, which is kind of where we are

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<v Speaker 1>here with this, did we come from Mars? Potentially that

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<v Speaker 1>these meteorites that had uh life buried within them, or

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least you know, sitting on the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>had life there found its way to Earth and that's

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<v Speaker 1>where it all started, right, And it's pretty cool to

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<v Speaker 1>think that way back then. They were thinking of this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff back in the seventies. Yeah, man, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the super far off the space elevator came

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<v Speaker 1>from a Russian guy in eighteen. People were thinking back then.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a lot of time to um subjugate. The

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<v Speaker 1>other cultures may have been thinking even more, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because they didn't know as much. All they did was

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<v Speaker 1>sit around and think. Well, if the Olympics taught me

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<v Speaker 1>anything the opening ceremonies, it's that they had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more time to toil and think, and everything just got

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<v Speaker 1>better after the sod was removed when the Industrial Revolution

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<v Speaker 1>came about. You think that got better. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>got worse. Oh I see. It seemed to me that

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<v Speaker 1>it was the saving grace of um of civilization was

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<v Speaker 1>when the Industrial Revolution hit. Oh okay, I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>meant the opening ceremonies because they got much worse after

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<v Speaker 1>the Industrial Revolution. All of a sudden, people were texting

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<v Speaker 1>each other on screen, and it was it was like

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<v Speaker 1>these little romance stories playing out on the field. They

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<v Speaker 1>got so yeah, it did. Yeah uh. But fortunately the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics had John Hodgman to defend it. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>sole person to defend it on Twitter. Boy could think

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter went around in the Atlanta Olympics. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember that one, but you he was like, you remember

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta embarrassing He was like, it was like little

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<v Speaker 1>Richard driving around in a truck or something that we

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<v Speaker 1>had stainless steel pickup trucks driving around. We had like

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<v Speaker 1>line dancing and like Georgia peaches. It was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man. But the point was it was big. It

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<v Speaker 1>may have been gaudy, but it was big. Right, No

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<v Speaker 1>one could out do Beijing. But they were saying they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't even trying to do outdo Beijing. They were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do something different. But it's still it missed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes down. Yeah, Okay, So anyway back to it,

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Victorian era, um, and there their science thought,

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<v Speaker 1>uh the wow, we got so far off, it's ridiculous. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point was the concept of pants permia is

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<v Speaker 1>that the Earth, prior to the arrival of life was

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<v Speaker 1>like a virgin Petrie dish, and then there was some

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<v Speaker 1>cosmic cough and like a little bit of cosmic spittle

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<v Speaker 1>infected this peatree dish, and all of a sudden, life

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<v Speaker 1>took off, that's gross pants. Bermia used to have a

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<v Speaker 1>more narrow definition back then, but now it's been broadened

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<v Speaker 1>out to the point where pretty much most scientists believe

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<v Speaker 1>that you can exchange life among bodies in our Solar system,

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<v Speaker 1>like it can happen. Yeah, well it's had proven to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was broader right back in the day, it was broader,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they now it's broader. Back then it was

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<v Speaker 1>more specific, it was broad narrow, and then when and

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<v Speaker 1>then it went back to the original broad version. Now

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<v Speaker 1>sciences started to kind of back up the what was

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<v Speaker 1>originally considered a flight of fancy. So what Lord Kelvin

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<v Speaker 1>thought was that asteroids brought life to Earth um and

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<v Speaker 1>and probably from Mars, maybe elsewhere in the galaxy, here

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<v Speaker 1>elsewhere in the universe, but the point was they arrived

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<v Speaker 1>via rock. Well, after a few years of consideration, most

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<v Speaker 1>people were like, that's not possible, Like an asteroid would

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<v Speaker 1>basically pulverize everything on it, there's heat involved, there's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the Swede comes along sipante are hineous and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, no, these are just basically like little little

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<v Speaker 1>microbes traveling between the planets, right, Yeah, It's like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even need the meteorite as the vessel. This stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is just going by what starlight? Uh yeah, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a simple way to put it. In electromagnetic energy

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<v Speaker 1>in the other articles at starlight, which sounds a little

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<v Speaker 1>more fanciful or ether I think they used to call

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<v Speaker 1>it to that. Really. Yeah, so this is all great,

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<v Speaker 1>And then we find out in n when we launched

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<v Speaker 1>the Viking probes which to Mars, which I think we

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<v Speaker 1>goofed on this before, right, the Viking name or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like Viking one touchdown at uh Chrysa plinysa

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<v Speaker 1>Viking too on Utopia Plinysia. And interestingly, they took some

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<v Speaker 1>some atmospheric readings and they found that the same stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in the atmosphere of Mars was also contained inside these

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<v Speaker 1>meteorites from the nineteen eighties. Pretty cool, right, Well, they

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<v Speaker 1>figured out the signature of the atmosphere of Mars and

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<v Speaker 1>then they compared it and it was the same. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then they went back and said, well, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>let's find out what other rocks have this specific unique

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<v Speaker 1>signature that we can locate on Mars and say these

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<v Speaker 1>are Mars meteorites. And they I think they had like

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thoud of them. Uh yeah, the ones they already had,

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<v Speaker 1>they like looked back into them and a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>four of them came from Mars. That was kind of low,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, Yeah, I was a little disappointed. But the

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<v Speaker 1>point is is these things show that rocks can travel

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<v Speaker 1>from Mars to Earth and survive intact. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>big part of it. So you have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of Lord Kelvin's original idea starting to come back into reality.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just good for him. Yes, a scale and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but they dug him up and shook his hand and

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<v Speaker 1>put him back. Uh. Shall we move on to um

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<v Speaker 1>A l H eight four zero one. This is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite metior rites. This one. You remember this

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<v Speaker 1>one like caused a huge stir, Like Clinton came out

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, there's life on Mars. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>found evidence. They found three different traces of what they

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<v Speaker 1>considered UM I guess microbial fossils from Mars, and two

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<v Speaker 1>of them were discounted, but another one was like a

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<v Speaker 1>chain of magnetite that was arranged in such a way

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<v Speaker 1>that it couldn't possibly have been created by anything but

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<v Speaker 1>an organism UM That I think the results are still

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<v Speaker 1>out on that one. I don't. The other two are like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely in organic, Nick, But this one, the jury

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<v Speaker 1>is still out on whether it's possible it was created

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<v Speaker 1>by some sort of organic life that basically excreted magnetite chains. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So the cool thing about this is they studied, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>years later, they they've come up with all these different

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<v Speaker 1>issues of why this might not be able to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is the intense heat that would be generated.

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<v Speaker 1>Could the meteorite survive it? Could my life on the

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<v Speaker 1>meteorite or buried within it survive it? And they studied

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<v Speaker 1>at cal Tech, Yes, cal Tech, they studied a l

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<v Speaker 1>H eight four zero zero one. I wonder what they

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<v Speaker 1>call it. Probably the Allan Hails, the Alan Hills meteorite. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably so, because that's where it was found. So they

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what the l H stands were. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>they studied this and they they figured out that inside

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, it actually never got hotter than a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and four degrees And they did this through magic called

0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.679
<v Speaker 1>magnetic signature. They cut off a slice of it and

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<v Speaker 1>found its magnetic signature. Uh, couldn't heat beyond that, So

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<v Speaker 1>that means it never disappears. Yeah, it never got hotter

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<v Speaker 1>than a hundred and four. So that kind of put

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<v Speaker 1>that one into bed. Ye. So there's plenty of microbes

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<v Speaker 1>that can survive temperatures of a hundred and three or

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred degrees in fact a better. A lot of

0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.520
<v Speaker 1>them love that kind of temperature, love it. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>called um retirees, right. Uh. And then so so that

0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:30.920
<v Speaker 1>backs up Calvin a little bit. The fact that there's

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<v Speaker 1>rocks that we can say definitely came from Mars back

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<v Speaker 1>him up. Um. And then also getting back to the

0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:43.280
<v Speaker 1>rocks coming from Mars, the possibility, the probability of one

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<v Speaker 1>infecting the planet, I guess you could say the early

0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:52.040
<v Speaker 1>planet also came to be supported through further research. Um,

0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:57.840
<v Speaker 1>some guys from NASA was it NASA. They calculated that

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<v Speaker 1>as many as fifty bill in Martian rocks pummeled Earth

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<v Speaker 1>in the first five hundred years of the Earth's life

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<v Speaker 1>at Earth a decade, No within a decade, but over

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<v Speaker 1>the first five hundred million years while the Earth is

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<v Speaker 1>cooling and the prior just prior to the existence of

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<v Speaker 1>life on Earth, Mars rocks hit Earth Okay, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying the rocks can survive. There were plenty of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know that at least one traveled and did

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<v Speaker 1>not heat up over a hundred and for degrees. And

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<v Speaker 1>the NaSTA dudes also said that basically our inner solar

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<v Speaker 1>system all has sort of a similar suitable environment. So

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<v Speaker 1>exchange of life and the inner Solar system only is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, very much likely. Yeah, yeah, if you, if you,

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<v Speaker 1>if they care, If you look at Mars, the chance

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<v Speaker 1>that Mars um can send a rock to Earth is

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<v Speaker 1>way higher than it's It's pretty high, right, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you go outside of our solar system, the

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<v Speaker 1>chances start to plummet exponentially downward um to where if

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<v Speaker 1>you go outside of our Solar system elsewhere in our

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<v Speaker 1>galaxy um, even in the Milky Way, the odds are

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<v Speaker 1>like one in a billion that even a single rock

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<v Speaker 1>could have hit Earth in its first five million years.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't happen. But apparently the interplanetary exchange between

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<v Speaker 1>Mars and Earth is a lot more frequent than you'd think.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also talking about how that hundred and four degree

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<v Speaker 1>internal temperature bacteria can survive that maybe even thrive Um

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<v Speaker 1>there are some bacteria too that have been studied that

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to survive UM basically trips on satellites

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to solarate viation much as they would be like

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<v Speaker 1>on a meteorite, and they've been found to survive pretty

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well as well. A lady name no, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>a UM well, yeah, a microbiologist named Lynn roth Child

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<v Speaker 1>and her partner Rocco Mensinelli. I believe that's how you

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<v Speaker 1>pronounce that. Uh. They put some halophiles, which are salt loving,

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<v Speaker 1>which you'd find in UM the dead sea. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>they can like these these buggers or survivors. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>basically just scab over their cells and um survive like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And they found that after two weeks on a satellite UM,

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<v Speaker 1>ten of these bacteria had survived. Not bad. That's not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>So we know that bacteria kind surviving space. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that it could possibly hit your right on a rock,

0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and we know that plenty of rocks come from ours. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Jumping back a little. One of the initial things they

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<v Speaker 1>thought would be that, you know, if these asteroids or

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<v Speaker 1>if these things are colliding in space, it would just

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<v Speaker 1>disintegrate into dust. Basically, they found out that not that

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<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily true either. Um. They found traced trace

0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:18.119
<v Speaker 1>gases within meteorites that originated on Mars in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighties and basically figured out that if one of these

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<v Speaker 1>impacts happens, maybe the it's disintegrated in the middle, but

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<v Speaker 1>on the outer edges there could be like larger chunks.

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<v Speaker 1>They just get shot away. Right, So that's that's basically

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<v Speaker 1>where these things are coming from. Ok But some other

0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.200
<v Speaker 1>people said, all right, well, those ones that get shot away,

0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:41.320
<v Speaker 1>they get to escape Earth's gravity or mars Is gravity,

0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.240
<v Speaker 1>they would have to suddenly, in a less than a second,

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<v Speaker 1>be accelerated from zero to eleven thousand, five hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>per hour thousand if you did that in a thousandth

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<v Speaker 1>of if you did that to human, the human would

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<v Speaker 1>become liquefied, of course. Okay, but the that's that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily hold truth with bacteria. And we know this because

0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:10.640
<v Speaker 1>certain microbiologists have packed bacteria into bullets and fired them

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<v Speaker 1>and then studied the bacteria and found that they were

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<v Speaker 1>alive still they survived that UM trajectory, yeah, which wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be that fast though, it wouldn't be eleven thousand, five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred miles an. I guess as the fast as they

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<v Speaker 1>could get it there, right, I guess? Okay, well, at

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<v Speaker 1>least it was a good effort. Um. Oh the Gerda

0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Hornick microbiologist in Germany. She also sent organisms into orbit

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<v Speaker 1>for six years, not too bad in the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Basilli's uh subtillists. And this is pretty wacky because not

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<v Speaker 1>only did it survive, but when this thing started like

0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.919
<v Speaker 1>depriving itself or getting deprived of nutrients, it formed like

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<v Speaker 1>a shell, like a spore or shell on top to

0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:00.000
<v Speaker 1>basically protect everything underneath it. That's the one I thought

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<v Speaker 1>with nothing, That's the one I thought was scabbing over. Correct,

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.719
<v Speaker 1>that was that one. Yeah, so you know, in the

0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.400
<v Speaker 1>cold dark, no water, no nothing, about thirty of these

0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.440
<v Speaker 1>things survived. That's survival. Okay, So then we have one

0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:18.240
<v Speaker 1>last factor, chuck time. Yes, so it's not like this

0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:22.080
<v Speaker 1>is a ten hour, two week trip like this can

0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:25.600
<v Speaker 1>take a really long time for a rock to escape

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 1>mars Is gravity and then basically make its way to

0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Earth millions of years that kind of time. Cane bacteria

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:37.040
<v Speaker 1>survive that length of time? Sure, why not? Well, in

0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.840
<v Speaker 1>some really smart people at cal Poly isolated a living

0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:45.479
<v Speaker 1>spore from the gut of a bee preserved in amber,

0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:47.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of right out of Jurassic Park. How long ago

0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.000
<v Speaker 1>would that be? Been? Preserved in Nember to forty million

0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.199
<v Speaker 1>years and the bacteria is still alive. Yes, And that

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<v Speaker 1>is not even the most amazing one, the most amazing. No. No,

0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Russell uh re Land of west Chester University in Pennsylvania

0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:08.760
<v Speaker 1>extracted bacteria from a two hundred and fifty million year

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:13.119
<v Speaker 1>old salt crystal. Living bacteria, Yeah, chapped inside liquid in

0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that salt crystal. So I think all the questions have

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<v Speaker 1>been answered, is like, it's not probable, but it's feasible

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<v Speaker 1>at least that these things could have taken place. So

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<v Speaker 1>it is possible that we are in our origin Martians.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. It's still raises a question, Chuck, what's that?

0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Where did that life begin? Yeah? Jeez, that's it. Dial

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.879
<v Speaker 1>it back even further. That's all I got. You got

0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:45.719
<v Speaker 1>anything else right now? That's all I got. So I

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 1>would recommend going to how stuff works dot com and

0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.439
<v Speaker 1>typing in are we all Martians? And will bring up

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 1>this article UM. On the site, you can also type

0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.399
<v Speaker 1>in origin life Earth in the search barineal up my

0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 1>article on panspermia and a biogenesis. Actually, there was one

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>more thing we should have pointed out. What we said

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:13.200
<v Speaker 1>that it can take fifteen million years for these meteorites

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.959
<v Speaker 1>to to reach Earth, but we didn't point out that

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not always the case. Sometimes these things find their

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<v Speaker 1>way to Earth in just a few years or day.

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't always take fifty million years. Okay, Chuck Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we go any further, we need to tell everybody

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<v Speaker 1>to go do some reading, too, sweet agreed o horror

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<v Speaker 1>fiction contest. That's right, as everyone knows, every Halloween for

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<v Speaker 1>the past couple of years, we read a horror story

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry Jazz is it all up with sound design.

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<v Speaker 1>She does good work. And this year Josh had a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome idea that sort of bad us on the

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<v Speaker 1>behind by calling for fans submissions, and we got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them. We got a hundred and four of them, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had to be between three thousand and four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand words. So we read between three h four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand words of these submissions, and we went through and

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<v Speaker 1>we picked out our favorite sixteen and it was tough.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some really good stuff in there. Um, but we

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<v Speaker 1>came up with the Sweet sixteen, and now it's up

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys out there to pick which one we

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<v Speaker 1>read for the Halloween episode. Um, we've entered the sixteen

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>into this fancy little bracket UM game. A widget on

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<v Speaker 1>the house Stuff Works website has this grossly inappropriate country

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<v Speaker 1>music that we can't disable. There's there were extensive emails

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<v Speaker 1>about whether or not we can just say what we can't.

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<v Speaker 1>We couldn't like put horror sounds or anything. No. I

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted to so bad. So it's like this really scary

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:43.400
<v Speaker 1>bracket game with like the it's crazy anyway, Um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>bracket's brackets up there. First you need to go to

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<v Speaker 1>UM type this into your favorite search engine blogs how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works, uh Sweet sixteen here, and it'll bring up

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>this blog post that has a link to all sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>articles or um entries. Yeah. We're also linking to this

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<v Speaker 1>on our Facebook and Twitter, so you can do that too. Yeah. Uh.

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>And then you read the six team and then there's

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a link on that same blog post that has um

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<v Speaker 1>the Brackett game. You can jump off to that and

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 1>vote for your favorites. And the round one and this

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<v Speaker 1>Friday Round two starts. Uh, I think that day, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it keeps going and going until we come

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<v Speaker 1>up with the winner four weeks okay, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>read that on the air. It'll be awesome. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we already have next year's picked out as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We do because we had what we thought was the

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<v Speaker 1>best one that was disqualified for certain reasons and uh

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<v Speaker 1>so we're just gonna clean it up and read it

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<v Speaker 1>next year. Yeah, it's not a winner in no way

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>is it a winner. In fact, it lost it lost

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<v Speaker 1>qualified right out of the game. But we still liked it. Yeah,

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and the other sixteen are really great, so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>any of them are going to be really good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not disappointed in the least me neither. I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>excited as a matter of fact. Okay, So go to

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>uh blogs how stuff works, um, and then sweet sixteen

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>horror Fiction something like that, and it'll bring up that

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>post that says, like, read this sweet sixteen horror fiction

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>entries here. I think there's an explanation for all right,

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:18.199
<v Speaker 1>that was lengthy. And then jan Nick I call this

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>another trucker emails us. We've heard from a few truckers,

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>long haul truckers, and I imagine podcasts are pretty great

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:32.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're sitting there with hemorrhoids driving across canvas. All right, Uh,

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>just listen to the White Color Crime podcast. Guys can't

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.360
<v Speaker 1>help but think of my own experience. My last job

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>was working in the counter at a general auto repair shop.

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<v Speaker 1>There were two of us at the counter. Both handled

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<v Speaker 1>the phone's inventory, parts and cash drawer, just about everything

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<v Speaker 1>except turning wrenches. As we didn't have charge accounts with

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<v Speaker 1>all of our parts suppliers, we paid cash for some

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<v Speaker 1>of the parts right out of the till the part

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<v Speaker 1>said to be entered into the inventory as a cash transaction,

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<v Speaker 1>and the system would spa out a piece of paper

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<v Speaker 1>showing the transaction and then would get file the way.

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 1>A couple of weeks after the other guy quit, um,

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I was now handling all the transactions and started noticing

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>some things. Every quarter we would audit the invoices and uh,

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>some of the invoice numbers were repeated, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>very unusual things like a distinct forward part number on

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<v Speaker 1>an invoice from the local Dodge dealer, something small as

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<v Speaker 1>one here. Uh. Some of them were photo copied invoices

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't have the original, so we uncovered basically

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<v Speaker 1>that this guy was taking legitimate parts invoices, making color

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<v Speaker 1>photo copies using a razor blade. He would cut out

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<v Speaker 1>things like the invoice numbers, parts and prices and alter

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<v Speaker 1>another legitimate invoice by taping those numbers over the originals

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<v Speaker 1>and photo copying. So this dude was just like basically

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<v Speaker 1>manipulating his documents. Sounds like very easily. Uh. Since I

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<v Speaker 1>left the company a year ago, they have continued looking

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<v Speaker 1>through the files. I'm covering more and more forced invoices.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the exact figure, but this guy stole

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<v Speaker 1>a staggering amount of money from the business, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>gotten away with it up until now. Does it's just

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<v Speaker 1>in there? Yeah weird, I don't I mean, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>person doesn't work there anymore, so Justin doesn't work there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're pursuing this anymore. That's I

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<v Speaker 1>guess this white collar crime. Sure it is not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like stocks and bonds and things, but sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's white collar crime. Altering documents. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>on the blue collar side of white collar crime. In

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<v Speaker 1>a part store, an auto parts store. Maybe that's what's

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