1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff You Should Know 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and I'm with Charles Bryant 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: and what we're doing Stuff you should know today? Oh yeah, 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: not the other one. Stuff you should not know. Nothing 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: you should know now we're out there inspiring podcasts. Yeah. 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: Who we heard about that today? Right, someone started podcast 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: in the Illinois Valley. I don't know where that is. 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it's Illinois though, but they wrote about 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: it in the paper, right, Yeah, they got to write 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: up in the paper. Pretty cool. Yeah. Okay, before we 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: get started, buddy, we need to announce our upcoming New 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: York trip in Trivia night. Yeah. We talked to Mayor 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg and he, uh, he said that Friday, October twelve, 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve is Stuff you Should Know day in 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: the five boroughs of New York City. That's right, and 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: we will be presented a not a key to the city, 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: but a key card to our hotel. At least it's 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: a set of lock picks to the city. That's right. 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: And uh, So we're coming for Comic Con. If you 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: have a Comic Con pass, you can come see this 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: podcast live and we're gonna have details on like what 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: room and what time and everything. Yeah. Plus it's cheap 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: even if you don't have a past, like like day 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: passes are not expensive. Yeah, even in this economy. It's 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: it's it's good. So we're gonna be podcasting live during 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: the day on Friday, and um you can check out 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter for info on exactly where and when. 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: And then that night another stuff you should know Trivia Night, 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: which was a huge success, huge success in New York 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: last year. So it's just two years ago, right, yeah, 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: two years ago. Yeah. Uh about this time too. I 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: think it was October, wasn't it. Yeah. Um, So that's 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: a whole day, the whole day of your life in 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: New York City, packed with stuff you should know, featuring 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Chuck and myself. So this is gonna be great. Uh 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: and I know it's just me, but I like saying myself. Um, 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have details for sure on that. We're 40 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: locking down the menu hopefully as we speak, and um 41 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: locking down our all star celebrity trivia team as we speak. 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: If you're out there and you're an all star celebrity, 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: you want to play with us. I think that's a 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: great call out up. We're still assembling our team. Yeah, 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: a couple of the stalwarts are going to be out 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: of town, which is disappointing. So we're looking for for 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: comers as it were, Yes, as it were, And we're 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: also looking for commers to challenge us and uh and 49 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: and Duke get out on the trivia floor. It's gonna 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: be fun for free, that's right. And there will be 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: adult libations involved if you're into that. Probably if you're 52 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: into that, and Uh, that's about it. Anything else. I 53 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: think it's high time we started the episode. Thank you 54 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: for bearing with us. I guess everyone, Uh, let's see, Chuck. 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm a little under the weather today. I know I'm fighting. 56 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: I I'm not I'm not gonna get sick. I'm just 57 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: it's like, man, that that one day where it's like 58 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: you're right before you're about to get better the worst day, 59 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: but you're just not going to get sick, you know 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I don't have like five days 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: of sickness ahead of me. I've got bagel days of 62 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: sickness ahead of me. You're saying this like positive thoughts. 63 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: Is that the deal? Okay? Yeah? I found that my 64 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: mind body connection is really really strong, especially in the 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: horrible way where I'm like, I'm not gonna get sick. 66 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if I'm getting sick though, Am I getting sick? 67 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I'm sick. It's like 68 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: I just talked myself into getting sick. But that sounds 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: like you just talk to yourself into getting well. So 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying it out. It's mental gymnastics. Uh, sometimes it works. Yeah, um, 71 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: but I guess let me just go ahead and start 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: and get this one over with. Okay. I like this one. Yeah, 73 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: not bad. You realize that's half of an article I 74 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: sent you before that. You you're like, now, let's not 75 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: do this one. Yeah, the origin of life on Earth. 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: But didn't we do that? We never did that? Well 77 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: there was a reason. Wow, I believe it now. But 78 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: maybe we can do the other half. We'll do. This 79 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: is like part of a two part suite about where 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: life on Earth came from Mars. Maybe there's another way, 81 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: and this is my intro. There's another possible way, and 82 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: it's something called a biogenesis, and a biogenesis basically says 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: that all the proteins needed to form RNA. Somehow we're 84 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: present in the early Earth and the primordial soup, and 85 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: somehow they came together in a structure that was RNA. 86 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: And RNA is a pretty specific, weird little thing, and 87 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: that it can not only replicate itself, it can make 88 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: new stuff too, so it can build d N A, 89 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: but it can also replicate itself. It sounds like something 90 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: Ridley Scott movie, very much so. And they think that 91 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: RNA somehow came together and over the course of millions 92 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: of years, in all these different trials and errors, finally 93 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: started to form DNA, which kick started life. The origin 94 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: of life was just a bunch of proteins that came together. 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: There are a lot of reasons people pooh pooh this. 96 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people a lot of creationists say, hey, 97 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: you know Occam's razor, which you scientists love so much, 98 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: do you think that's it? Or that somebody created us? 99 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: So the abiogenesis hypothesis, maybe theory by now has kind 100 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: of has some holes in it, but it's really interesting 101 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: and we'll talk in depth about that in another one. 102 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: This one is about the big rival to a biogenesis. 103 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: And it's called panspermia, which is a pretty pretty neat name. 104 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Seeds everywhere? Yeah, seeds everywhere over 105 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: the place, panspermia. And it's from a guy in the 106 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: nineteen o six Swede whose name is pretty awesome, uh, 107 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: Savante Argennis, who wrote a book called Worlds in the Making, 108 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: and he coined the term pants fermia. But it was 109 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: um about fifty or so years maybe thirty or so 110 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: years before him, um that the idea of pants fermia 111 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: was first put forth by Lord Kelvin. Yeah, the famous 112 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Lord Kelvin, British physicist, mega famous. I mean not many 113 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: people get a temperature scale named after him. No, there's not, 114 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: just the Tommy Celsius and Billy Fahrenheit man and Lord 115 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: Kelvin trimember that is. Uh. So his idea was that 116 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: seed bearing meteorites, which is kind of where we are 117 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: here with this, did we come from Mars? Potentially that 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: these meteorites that had uh life buried within them, or 119 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: at the very least you know, sitting on the surface, 120 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: had life there found its way to Earth and that's 121 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: where it all started, right, And it's pretty cool to 122 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: think that way back then. They were thinking of this 123 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: stuff back in the seventies. Yeah, man, you know, well, 124 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean the super far off the space elevator came 125 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: from a Russian guy in eighteen. People were thinking back then. 126 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: They had a lot of time to um subjugate. The 127 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: other cultures may have been thinking even more, you know, 128 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: because they didn't know as much. All they did was 129 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: sit around and think. Well, if the Olympics taught me 130 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: anything the opening ceremonies, it's that they had a lot 131 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: more time to toil and think, and everything just got 132 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: better after the sod was removed when the Industrial Revolution 133 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: came about. You think that got better. I think it 134 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: got worse. Oh I see. It seemed to me that 135 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: it was the saving grace of um of civilization was 136 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: when the Industrial Revolution hit. Oh okay, I thought you 137 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: meant the opening ceremonies because they got much worse after 138 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: the Industrial Revolution. All of a sudden, people were texting 139 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: each other on screen, and it was it was like 140 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: these little romance stories playing out on the field. They 141 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: got so yeah, it did. Yeah uh. But fortunately the 142 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: Olympics had John Hodgman to defend it. He was the 143 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: sole person to defend it on Twitter. Boy could think 144 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: Twitter went around in the Atlanta Olympics. Yeah, I don't 145 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: remember that one, but you he was like, you remember 146 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: the Atlanta embarrassing He was like, it was like little 147 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: Richard driving around in a truck or something that we 148 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: had stainless steel pickup trucks driving around. We had like 149 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: line dancing and like Georgia peaches. It was just like, 150 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: oh man. But the point was it was big. It 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: may have been gaudy, but it was big. Right, No 152 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: one could out do Beijing. But they were saying they 153 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: weren't even trying to do outdo Beijing. They were trying 154 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: to do something different. But it's still it missed. Yeah, 155 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: it comes down. Yeah, Okay, So anyway back to it, 156 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: back to the Victorian era, um, and there their science thought, 157 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: uh the wow, we got so far off, it's ridiculous. Um. 158 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: But the point was the concept of pants permia is 159 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: that the Earth, prior to the arrival of life was 160 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: like a virgin Petrie dish, and then there was some 161 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: cosmic cough and like a little bit of cosmic spittle 162 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: infected this peatree dish, and all of a sudden, life 163 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: took off, that's gross pants. Bermia used to have a 164 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: more narrow definition back then, but now it's been broadened 165 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: out to the point where pretty much most scientists believe 166 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: that you can exchange life among bodies in our Solar system, 167 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: like it can happen. Yeah, well it's had proven to happen. 168 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: It was broader right back in the day, it was broader, 169 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: and then they now it's broader. Back then it was 170 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: more specific, it was broad narrow, and then when and 171 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: then it went back to the original broad version. Now 172 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: sciences started to kind of back up the what was 173 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: originally considered a flight of fancy. So what Lord Kelvin 174 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: thought was that asteroids brought life to Earth um and 175 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: and probably from Mars, maybe elsewhere in the galaxy, here 176 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: elsewhere in the universe, but the point was they arrived 177 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: via rock. Well, after a few years of consideration, most 178 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: people were like, that's not possible, Like an asteroid would 179 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: basically pulverize everything on it, there's heat involved, there's no way. 180 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: And so the Swede comes along sipante are hineous and 181 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: he says, no, these are just basically like little little 182 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: microbes traveling between the planets, right, Yeah, It's like you 183 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: don't even need the meteorite as the vessel. This stuff 184 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: is just going by what starlight? Uh yeah, that's kind 185 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: of a simple way to put it. In electromagnetic energy 186 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: in the other articles at starlight, which sounds a little 187 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: more fanciful or ether I think they used to call 188 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: it to that. Really. Yeah, so this is all great, 189 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: And then we find out in n when we launched 190 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 1: the Viking probes which to Mars, which I think we 191 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: goofed on this before, right, the Viking name or something. Yeah, 192 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: it seems like Viking one touchdown at uh Chrysa plinysa 193 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: Viking too on Utopia Plinysia. And interestingly, they took some 194 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: some atmospheric readings and they found that the same stuff 195 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: in the atmosphere of Mars was also contained inside these 196 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: meteorites from the nineteen eighties. Pretty cool, right, Well, they 197 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: figured out the signature of the atmosphere of Mars and 198 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: then they compared it and it was the same. Right, 199 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: And then they went back and said, well, wait a minute, 200 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: let's find out what other rocks have this specific unique 201 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: signature that we can locate on Mars and say these 202 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: are Mars meteorites. And they I think they had like 203 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: fifty thoud of them. Uh yeah, the ones they already had, 204 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: they like looked back into them and a hundred and 205 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: four of them came from Mars. That was kind of low, 206 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: I thought, Yeah, I was a little disappointed. But the 207 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: point is is these things show that rocks can travel 208 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: from Mars to Earth and survive intact. That was the 209 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: big part of it. So you have a little bit 210 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: of Lord Kelvin's original idea starting to come back into reality. 211 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: You know, just good for him. Yes, a scale and everything, 212 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: but they dug him up and shook his hand and 213 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: put him back. Uh. Shall we move on to um 214 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: A l H eight four zero one. This is one 215 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: of my favorite metior rites. This one. You remember this 216 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: one like caused a huge stir, Like Clinton came out 217 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: and I was like, there's life on Mars. Like we 218 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: found evidence. They found three different traces of what they 219 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: considered UM I guess microbial fossils from Mars, and two 220 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: of them were discounted, but another one was like a 221 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: chain of magnetite that was arranged in such a way 222 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: that it couldn't possibly have been created by anything but 223 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: an organism UM That I think the results are still 224 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: out on that one. I don't. The other two are like, no, no, 225 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: it's definitely in organic, Nick, But this one, the jury 226 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: is still out on whether it's possible it was created 227 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: by some sort of organic life that basically excreted magnetite chains. Uh. 228 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: So the cool thing about this is they studied, you know, 229 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: years later, they they've come up with all these different 230 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: issues of why this might not be able to happen. 231 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: One of them is the intense heat that would be generated. 232 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: Could the meteorite survive it? Could my life on the 233 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: meteorite or buried within it survive it? And they studied 234 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: at cal Tech, Yes, cal Tech, they studied a l 235 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: H eight four zero zero one. I wonder what they 236 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: call it. Probably the Allan Hails, the Alan Hills meteorite. Yeah, 237 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: probably so, because that's where it was found. So they 238 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: and that's what the l H stands were. Um. So 239 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: they studied this and they they figured out that inside 240 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: this thing, it actually never got hotter than a hundred 241 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: and four degrees And they did this through magic called 242 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: magnetic signature. They cut off a slice of it and 243 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: found its magnetic signature. Uh, couldn't heat beyond that, So 244 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: that means it never disappears. Yeah, it never got hotter 245 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: than a hundred and four. So that kind of put 246 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: that one into bed. Ye. So there's plenty of microbes 247 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: that can survive temperatures of a hundred and three or 248 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: a hundred degrees in fact a better. A lot of 249 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: them love that kind of temperature, love it. Yeah, they're 250 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: called um retirees, right. Uh. And then so so that 251 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: backs up Calvin a little bit. The fact that there's 252 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: rocks that we can say definitely came from Mars back 253 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: him up. Um. And then also getting back to the 254 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: rocks coming from Mars, the possibility, the probability of one 255 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: infecting the planet, I guess you could say the early 256 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: planet also came to be supported through further research. Um, 257 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: some guys from NASA was it NASA. They calculated that 258 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: as many as fifty bill in Martian rocks pummeled Earth 259 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: in the first five hundred years of the Earth's life 260 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: at Earth a decade, No within a decade, but over 261 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: the first five hundred million years while the Earth is 262 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: cooling and the prior just prior to the existence of 263 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: life on Earth, Mars rocks hit Earth Okay, so they're 264 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: saying the rocks can survive. There were plenty of them, 265 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: and we know that at least one traveled and did 266 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: not heat up over a hundred and for degrees. And 267 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: the NaSTA dudes also said that basically our inner solar 268 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: system all has sort of a similar suitable environment. So 269 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: exchange of life and the inner Solar system only is 270 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, very much likely. Yeah, yeah, if you, if you, 271 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: if they care, If you look at Mars, the chance 272 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: that Mars um can send a rock to Earth is 273 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: way higher than it's It's pretty high, right, but if 274 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: you if you go outside of our solar system, the 275 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: chances start to plummet exponentially downward um to where if 276 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: you go outside of our Solar system elsewhere in our 277 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: galaxy um, even in the Milky Way, the odds are 278 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: like one in a billion that even a single rock 279 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: could have hit Earth in its first five million years. 280 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen. But apparently the interplanetary exchange between 281 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: Mars and Earth is a lot more frequent than you'd think. 282 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: We're also talking about how that hundred and four degree 283 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: internal temperature bacteria can survive that maybe even thrive Um 284 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: there are some bacteria too that have been studied that 285 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,239 Speaker 1: have been able to survive UM basically trips on satellites 286 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: exposed to solarate viation much as they would be like 287 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: on a meteorite, and they've been found to survive pretty 288 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: pretty well as well. A lady name no, I'm sorry 289 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: a UM well, yeah, a microbiologist named Lynn roth Child 290 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: and her partner Rocco Mensinelli. I believe that's how you 291 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: pronounce that. Uh. They put some halophiles, which are salt loving, 292 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: which you'd find in UM the dead sea. Yeah, and 293 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: they can like these these buggers or survivors. Yeah, they 294 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: basically just scab over their cells and um survive like that. 295 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: And they found that after two weeks on a satellite UM, 296 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: ten of these bacteria had survived. Not bad. That's not bad. 297 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: So we know that bacteria kind surviving space. We know 298 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: that it could possibly hit your right on a rock, 299 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: and we know that plenty of rocks come from ours. Uh. 300 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Jumping back a little. One of the initial things they 301 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: thought would be that, you know, if these asteroids or 302 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: if these things are colliding in space, it would just 303 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: disintegrate into dust. Basically, they found out that not that 304 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: is not necessarily true either. Um. They found traced trace 305 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: gases within meteorites that originated on Mars in the nineteen 306 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: eighties and basically figured out that if one of these 307 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: impacts happens, maybe the it's disintegrated in the middle, but 308 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: on the outer edges there could be like larger chunks. 309 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: They just get shot away. Right, So that's that's basically 310 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: where these things are coming from. Ok But some other 311 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: people said, all right, well, those ones that get shot away, 312 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: they get to escape Earth's gravity or mars Is gravity, 313 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: they would have to suddenly, in a less than a second, 314 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: be accelerated from zero to eleven thousand, five hundred miles 315 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: per hour thousand if you did that in a thousandth 316 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: of if you did that to human, the human would 317 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: become liquefied, of course. Okay, but the that's that doesn't 318 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: necessarily hold truth with bacteria. And we know this because 319 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: certain microbiologists have packed bacteria into bullets and fired them 320 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: and then studied the bacteria and found that they were 321 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: alive still they survived that UM trajectory, yeah, which wouldn't 322 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: be that fast though, it wouldn't be eleven thousand, five 323 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: hundred miles an. I guess as the fast as they 324 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: could get it there, right, I guess? Okay, well, at 325 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: least it was a good effort. Um. Oh the Gerda 326 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: Hornick microbiologist in Germany. She also sent organisms into orbit 327 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: for six years, not too bad in the nineteen eighties. 328 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Basilli's uh subtillists. And this is pretty wacky because not 329 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: only did it survive, but when this thing started like 330 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: depriving itself or getting deprived of nutrients, it formed like 331 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: a shell, like a spore or shell on top to 332 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: basically protect everything underneath it. That's the one I thought 333 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: with nothing, That's the one I thought was scabbing over. Correct, 334 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: that was that one. Yeah, so you know, in the 335 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: cold dark, no water, no nothing, about thirty of these 336 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: things survived. That's survival. Okay, So then we have one 337 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: last factor, chuck time. Yes, so it's not like this 338 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: is a ten hour, two week trip like this can 339 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: take a really long time for a rock to escape 340 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: mars Is gravity and then basically make its way to 341 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: Earth millions of years that kind of time. Cane bacteria 342 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: survive that length of time? Sure, why not? Well, in 343 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: some really smart people at cal Poly isolated a living 344 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: spore from the gut of a bee preserved in amber, 345 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: kind of right out of Jurassic Park. How long ago 346 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: would that be? Been? Preserved in Nember to forty million 347 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: years and the bacteria is still alive. Yes, And that 348 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: is not even the most amazing one, the most amazing. No. No, 349 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: Russell uh re Land of west Chester University in Pennsylvania 350 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: extracted bacteria from a two hundred and fifty million year 351 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: old salt crystal. Living bacteria, Yeah, chapped inside liquid in 352 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: that salt crystal. So I think all the questions have 353 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: been answered, is like, it's not probable, but it's feasible 354 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: at least that these things could have taken place. So 355 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: it is possible that we are in our origin Martians. 356 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: That's right. It's still raises a question, Chuck, what's that? 357 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: Where did that life begin? Yeah? Jeez, that's it. Dial 358 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: it back even further. That's all I got. You got 359 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: anything else right now? That's all I got. So I 360 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: would recommend going to how stuff works dot com and 361 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: typing in are we all Martians? And will bring up 362 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: this article UM. On the site, you can also type 363 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: in origin life Earth in the search barineal up my 364 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: article on panspermia and a biogenesis. Actually, there was one 365 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: more thing we should have pointed out. What we said 366 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: that it can take fifteen million years for these meteorites 367 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: to to reach Earth, but we didn't point out that 368 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: that's not always the case. Sometimes these things find their 369 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: way to Earth in just a few years or day. 370 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't always take fifty million years. Okay, Chuck Josh. 371 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: Before we go any further, we need to tell everybody 372 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: to go do some reading, too, sweet agreed o horror 373 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: fiction contest. That's right, as everyone knows, every Halloween for 374 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: the past couple of years, we read a horror story 375 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: and Jerry Jazz is it all up with sound design. 376 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: She does good work. And this year Josh had a 377 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: pretty awesome idea that sort of bad us on the 378 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: behind by calling for fans submissions, and we got a 379 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: lot of them. We got a hundred and four of them, uh, 380 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: and they had to be between three thousand and four 381 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: thousand words. So we read between three h four hundred 382 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: thousand words of these submissions, and we went through and 383 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: we picked out our favorite sixteen and it was tough. 384 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: There's some really good stuff in there. Um, but we 385 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: came up with the Sweet sixteen, and now it's up 386 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: to you guys out there to pick which one we 387 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: read for the Halloween episode. Um, we've entered the sixteen 388 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: into this fancy little bracket UM game. A widget on 389 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: the house Stuff Works website has this grossly inappropriate country 390 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: music that we can't disable. There's there were extensive emails 391 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: about whether or not we can just say what we can't. 392 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: We couldn't like put horror sounds or anything. No. I 393 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: wanted to so bad. So it's like this really scary 394 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: bracket game with like the it's crazy anyway, Um, there's 395 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: bracket's brackets up there. First you need to go to 396 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: UM type this into your favorite search engine blogs how 397 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: stuff works, uh Sweet sixteen here, and it'll bring up 398 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: this blog post that has a link to all sixteen 399 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: articles or um entries. Yeah. We're also linking to this 400 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: on our Facebook and Twitter, so you can do that too. Yeah. Uh. 401 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: And then you read the six team and then there's 402 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: a link on that same blog post that has um 403 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: the Brackett game. You can jump off to that and 404 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: vote for your favorites. And the round one and this 405 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: Friday Round two starts. Uh, I think that day, okay, 406 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: and then it keeps going and going until we come 407 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: up with the winner four weeks okay, and we will 408 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: read that on the air. It'll be awesome. And I 409 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: think we already have next year's picked out as well. 410 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: We do because we had what we thought was the 411 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: best one that was disqualified for certain reasons and uh 412 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: so we're just gonna clean it up and read it 413 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, it's not a winner in no way 414 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: is it a winner. In fact, it lost it lost 415 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: qualified right out of the game. But we still liked it. Yeah, 416 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: and the other sixteen are really great, so it's like 417 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: any of them are going to be really good. Yeah. 418 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm not disappointed in the least me neither. I'm very 419 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: excited as a matter of fact. Okay, So go to 420 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: uh blogs how stuff works, um, and then sweet sixteen 421 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: horror Fiction something like that, and it'll bring up that 422 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: post that says, like, read this sweet sixteen horror fiction 423 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: entries here. I think there's an explanation for all right, 424 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: that was lengthy. And then jan Nick I call this 425 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: another trucker emails us. We've heard from a few truckers, 426 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: long haul truckers, and I imagine podcasts are pretty great 427 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: if you're sitting there with hemorrhoids driving across canvas. All right, Uh, 428 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: just listen to the White Color Crime podcast. Guys can't 429 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: help but think of my own experience. My last job 430 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: was working in the counter at a general auto repair shop. 431 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: There were two of us at the counter. Both handled 432 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: the phone's inventory, parts and cash drawer, just about everything 433 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: except turning wrenches. As we didn't have charge accounts with 434 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: all of our parts suppliers, we paid cash for some 435 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: of the parts right out of the till the part 436 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: said to be entered into the inventory as a cash transaction, 437 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: and the system would spa out a piece of paper 438 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: showing the transaction and then would get file the way. 439 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks after the other guy quit, um, 440 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: I was now handling all the transactions and started noticing 441 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: some things. Every quarter we would audit the invoices and uh, 442 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: some of the invoice numbers were repeated, as well as 443 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: very unusual things like a distinct forward part number on 444 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: an invoice from the local Dodge dealer, something small as 445 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: one here. Uh. Some of them were photo copied invoices 446 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: and we didn't have the original, so we uncovered basically 447 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: that this guy was taking legitimate parts invoices, making color 448 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: photo copies using a razor blade. He would cut out 449 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: things like the invoice numbers, parts and prices and alter 450 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: another legitimate invoice by taping those numbers over the originals 451 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: and photo copying. So this dude was just like basically 452 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: manipulating his documents. Sounds like very easily. Uh. Since I 453 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: left the company a year ago, they have continued looking 454 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: through the files. I'm covering more and more forced invoices. 455 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't know the exact figure, but this guy stole 456 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: a staggering amount of money from the business, and he's 457 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: gotten away with it up until now. Does it's just 458 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: in there? Yeah weird, I don't I mean, yeah, this 459 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: person doesn't work there anymore, so Justin doesn't work there. 460 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're pursuing this anymore. That's I 461 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: guess this white collar crime. Sure it is not, you know, 462 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: it's not like stocks and bonds and things, but sure 463 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: that's white collar crime. Altering documents. I feel like it's 464 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: on the blue collar side of white collar crime. In 465 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: a part store, an auto parts store. Maybe that's what's 466 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: tripping me up. Um. 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