1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Katty and now he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: The meeting with Russia that'll take place tomorrow. They're going 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: to the meeting with President Putin. I had a very 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: good meeting with President Zelenski. Everybody wants to have the 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: war end. Well, that's some pretty big breaking news out 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: of Davos, breaking, ABC says. Ukrainian President Zelensky said that 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: trilateral talks between Ukraine, Russia, and the US are expected 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: to be held in the United Arab Emirates and Trump 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: saying tomorrow and Putin's involved Putin Zolensky in the same room, 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: I still don't see that ever happening. 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: I feel almost exactly the same as I feel about 14 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Stein Files headlines. I will ignore the next three rounds 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: of them, and you tell me if anything significant happens, 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: and if it does, I will say wow, and I 17 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: will pay attention. 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: Could you? 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: And that is a comment on the utter cynicism and 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: cruelty of Vladimir Putin. 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think case, I don't think if I'm 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: Vladimir's Zelensky. I could be in the same room with Putin, 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: and even if I worked myself up emotionally, why this 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: is for the betterment of my people. It's bigger than me. 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, be a grown up, et cetera, et cetera. 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: He makes one smart ass comment about we caused the war. Whatever, 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: I'd go over the table with the images in my 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: mind of dead children and raped women. Yeah, it'd be 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: hard to control yourself. 30 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: And tens of thousands of kidnapped children being re educated 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: to hate their country. He does so, speaking which the teachers' 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: union's coming up, stay with us. 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: Putin does that whole sitting back with his legs splayed open, 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: kind of a smirk on his face, makes some smartest comment, 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: You'd be impossible. 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: To control yourself. Yeah, yeah, here here all right on 37 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: a cheery or no, wait, no it isn't Michael plymaclip 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: for me. 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: Would you you think you're gonna bring your kids here 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: and we're gonna spare you? Why you support the bombing 41 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: of children and Gazi Nazi that was such a Nazi. 42 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: Little bit, all right, So you've got your radical leftists 43 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: screaming you're a Nazi at all sorts of people, whether 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: they are ice agents trying to force federal law and 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: certainly thinking people can differ over the methods and the 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: scope of the round up and the rest of it. 47 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: But that the people going into the church, that specific one. 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: That's one of the pieces of audio. That was not Minnesota. 49 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: That's a different church in a different place. But all 50 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: cops are bastards a cab. You've seen that on spray 51 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: painted on the walls of many buildings in Portland and Seattle, 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. Fund fund the police animated. 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Much of the Democratic Party still does. Although the moderates 54 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: are desperate to get those people this shut up them 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: and the defund ice people again, the normal Democrats are. 56 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, what are we gonna do anyway? 57 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: So the idea that police cruelty the heavy hand of 58 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: the state is so abhorrent, and that's why we need 59 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: to seize control. Okay, that's frequently the narrative, that's why 60 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: we need to tear down the system. Well, I'm gonna 61 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: be weaving in and out of the brilliant Nelly bowls 62 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: and throwing in my comments and sat Jack certainly his 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: comments here, but Nelly writes, abolish the police except in Iran. 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: As protests for freedom continue in Iran, the Iatola's brutal 65 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: regime is responding by gunning down thousands of protesters. Are 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: there marches here to stand in solidarity? No is our 67 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: freedom all entwined again? No? So, how is the American 68 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: progressive establishment treating this well? They're either saying it's fake 69 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: or they're saying it's great. The chair of the DNC, 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: he says, America is just as oppressive. This is the 71 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: chair of the DNC. You, Ben Martin, how do you 72 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: say that? Here's the actual cod If comparing the US 73 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: to a Ran makes you angry, ask why. 74 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: Leftist? It makes? It makes me angry because, Uh, somebody 75 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: who's willing to say that shouldn't be in the position 76 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: you're in, because that's not good for the country. That's 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 2: what makes me angry. 78 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: And because it's so blank and stupid. Leftist and Islamist 79 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: influencer Hassan Piker defended himself against critics that he really 80 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: liked a comany tweet recently. He said, you'll find you 81 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: can find poetry in the strangers places. And then Nelly writes, 82 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: and sometimes you hear terror apologia exactly where you expect. 83 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really really interesting. This is this 84 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: is a rich stew of info. 85 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: Scores of Scottish independence social media accounts went dark after 86 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: Iran instituted an internet blackout. So these are down with 87 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: the system in Scotland. Quotes I'm sorry sights that turned 88 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: out to be phony Iranian activists trying to sow uh 89 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: you know anger right. 90 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they're they're like in Russia and like China 91 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: and North Korea, they are regime employed. Uh, what's the 92 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: what's the term they're trying to infiltrate and and brainwash 93 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: essentially Americans? What what is the term that? That's so 94 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: good that the guy from the Soviet Union, the famous 95 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: KGB interviewed from back in the eighties said they want 96 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: to infiltrate us and and and screw us up from 97 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: from the inside out. 98 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Anyway, Uh, it'll pop it in my mind. Uh. 99 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: So you got the scores of Scottish independence social media 100 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: accounts went dark after Iran institute an internet blackout. Meanwhile, 101 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: when Iran shut down the Iranian Internet, suddenly a lot 102 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: of anti government protest accounts in other places went dark 103 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: too odd. And then the chef's kiss is this treatise 104 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: from Progressive International In short, police are meanis except in 105 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: Iran where they are very very good. Here's Progressive International. 106 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: And the perhaps the prelude to the actual quote is 107 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: you remember all the times I'm bringing up the red 108 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: Green axis where the Marxists joined with the Islamists to 109 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: bring down Western civilization, capitalism, et cetera. So why in 110 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: the world would the Progressive International, this big multinational it's 111 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: like the DNC on steroids around the world, Why would 112 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: they be in favor of police repression and brutality, like 113 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: to the point of slaughtering thousands of people? Is it 114 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: perhaps because the principles they say they're demonstrating for aren't 115 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: their principles at all. Their only principle is take cover, 116 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: it's capture, which I've been trying to tell you for 117 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: a long time. Anyway, here's what Progressive International actually said. 118 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: In the imperial countries, the police function as the domestic 119 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: arm of the empire. They suppress dissent, criminalize resistance, and 120 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: enforce accumulation through violence, particularly against black, indigenous and other 121 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: peoples of color. In Iran, the law Enforcement Command exists 122 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: within a radically different context, a state born of popular revolution, 123 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: subjected to decades of sanctions, assassinations, sabotage, and overt military threats. Crucially, 124 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: it faces sustained attempts at regime change operations and color 125 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: revolution tactics aimed at disarming the state internally by delegitimizing 126 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: its capacity to maintain order. So they're saying, oh, it's 127 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: totally totally justified that they engage in brutal suppression and 128 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: repression of their citizens because the forces of the West 129 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: are trying to get rid of them. 130 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: So it's excused. 131 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: If you ever wondered, how hard is it for like 132 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: a communist who said, you know, we've got to throw 133 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: off the chains of oppression to oppress the oppress the 134 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: crap out of people. 135 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: It's that easy. 136 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: It's that easy, just one paragraph. Let's see that, Nellie Bowles. 137 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: They have such newfound respect for maintaining order. They're all 138 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: for like abolishing the police until the police is named 139 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: Ayatola and then it's like, come beat me Ayatola. 140 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm surprised by this. I didn't know that they would, I, 141 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: you know, come up with a way to support putting 142 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: down the protests in Iran. That's shocking to me. Or 143 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: to make comments like it's worse here in the United 144 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: States or as bad, which is just for numbskulls. I'm 145 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: a little surprised that you're a little surprised, honestly, but 146 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: I thought it was just more of a you know, 147 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: that's over there. I don't care what happens over there. 148 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: We were so into the Israel thing because we support Israel, 149 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: because we in the United States. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we 150 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: the college kids on a campus or whatever. 151 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, we've been indoctrinated to hate our country and 152 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: hate Western civilization. 153 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: That's it. 154 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: And we've been taught that people of color, Marxists and 155 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: Islamists are fighting against that, and they are our brothers. 156 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: And so if the Islamists, and this is the mark 157 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: of every softhead that's been sucked in every violent Marxist 158 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: revolution in the history of mankind, if our side engages 159 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: in precisely the tactics that made me a Marxist, I 160 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: excuse it because it's justified. So when they march in 161 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: the streets saying we're angry because of this principle, they're not. 162 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: They're really not We've mentioned a couple of times the 163 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: podcast The Rest is History, really really great podcast and 164 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: it wins awards and stuff like that. But anyway, they 165 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: did a recent episode we need. 166 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: An award, maybe we can grab Maria Machado's podcast of 167 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: the Year, and demanded that she give it to us. 168 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: They did a recent episode on the Iranian Revolution from 169 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: back in seventy nine. And I've read lots of books 170 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: about it and documentaris and all this sort of stuff. 171 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 2: If you're our age, you lived through it, but they 172 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: went clear back to the beginning of the nineteen hundreds 173 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: and through the whole story. And it's just it's so 174 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: interesting that that should be taught to college kids or 175 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: all people about, you know, just the reality of the 176 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: world and how often do you have to support scumbags 177 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: because this scumbag is more aligned with you than they 178 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: are with other even worse scumbags, And just I mean, 179 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: it's it's really hard to like draw bright lines of 180 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: we're never going to support despots or whatever when. 181 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: You get out into the real world. Well, yeah, it's 182 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: generally one despot or another. 183 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, if the shaw is more likely to work with 184 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: us than with Russia, then we'll back the. 185 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: Shaw right right, and that, you know, getting back to 186 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: my principle that they shout about principles but they don't 187 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: really mean it. I find myself wondering, I mean, because sometimes, 188 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: and again, as Jack often brings up, do you think 189 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: that people yelling in the streets, the nice lesbian, middle 190 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: aged housewives understand what they're actually doing? The answer is 191 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: generally no, they're the useful idiots. It's the small cadre 192 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: of activists to dupe them into believing the religion and 193 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: get them to go out into the streets and sacrifice themselves, 194 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: often literally sacrifice themselves, while the Marxists, you know, puppet 195 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: string pullers, are cheerfully, you know, going about their business. 196 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: But you know, back in the day when I remember, 197 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: as a kid and a young man seeing the leftists 198 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: screeching self righteously about some of the regimes we supported 199 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: in South and Central America, we the United States, and 200 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: a lot of those regimes were regretfully brutal. I mean, 201 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: they were terrible. They're indefensible on a human rights level. 202 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: But it was either that or slaves to the Soviet 203 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: Union communists. 204 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 2: So what's a boy to do? 205 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: And I find myself wondering were those people who I 206 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: took it face value, those activists were they really just 207 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: always communists and wanted communism because as soon as like 208 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: the Sandinistas took control in Nicaragua, they became every bit 209 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: as awful as was it the Samosa regime. And I've 210 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: been alive too long. They're too many regimes. They became 211 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: every bit as bad as the regime they overthrew. But 212 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: there were communists, and the American left didn't have anything 213 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: to say. I thought you were against brutality. You screamed 214 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: it in my face. 215 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: There was spittle on me. Now you're not. Wow, that's weird, 216 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: isn't it. So if you've been following the NFL like 217 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: I have, they just released the five finalists for the 218 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: MVP of the season, which you might have some interest in. 219 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: I can just run through them real fast. One of 220 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: the things we got coming up to stay here. Sorry. 221 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: President John signed the Whole Milk for Healthy Kids Act 222 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: in the law, which allows schools and their cafeteria is 223 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: to receive federal funding to serve two percent milk to 224 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: help wash down the five chicken. 225 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: That was pretty funny, Okay, do you want serious, hard news. 226 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: First of fluff. First, Oh, I always like to end 227 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: with a little fluff. Okay, Uh, this is could be 228 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: big cancer breakthrough around pancreatic cancer. Do we all know why? 229 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: Pancreatic cancer is what killed Scott Adams, the Dilbert creator 230 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: last week? That's what the Nebraska senator frostate. Oh, you're right, 231 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: it was prostate cancer. Pancreatic cancer is what U Ben 232 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: Sass has got. And I assume we all know why 233 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: pancreate cancer is so bad. It's because because of where 234 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: it is. You just I don't know. You haven't until 235 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: it's so late that it's the deadliest cancer out there. 236 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: You find out you got pancreake Kenniges, usually at the 237 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: very end, and you left like weeks to live. It's 238 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 2: horrible and it's scariest one out there. Well, so researchers 239 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: at the University of Indiana, who's yours? Somehow you win 240 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: a national championship, you have cancer breakthroughs. 241 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: Also sorry, that's uh Indiana University that won. 242 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: The national championship. Yeah right, what did I say? I 243 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: think it is Indiana University of Indiana. They're different, they are, Yeah, 244 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: Indiana University is different. Than the University of Indiana. Yeah, 245 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: they're two different schools. 246 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: Ret Bear made the same mistake. Yeah, I'm gonna get idea. 247 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: The only reason if I wasn't, if I didn't grow 248 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: up and go to a Big ten school, I would 249 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: have no idea. 250 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: You can't do that. You got to change your state 251 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: laws or something. You can't have the University of Indiana 252 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: and Indiana University. One of them is gonna be state 253 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: or tech or something. 254 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: You know, Indiana stands for idiots out walking around. 255 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: You gotta have some rules around there. No, that's Iowa. Sorry, 256 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: it's anarchy anyway, that's not the important part of this story. 257 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: They have recognized some biomarkers that they think they can 258 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: detect pancreatic cancer way earlier, which is the whole ball 259 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: game with pancreatic cancer, and then you could treat it 260 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: just like any other cancer, which it's not specifically different 261 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: than other cancers other than you just don't know you 262 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: have it until. 263 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: It's too late, right, right, And survival rates for all 264 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: sorts of cancer have doubled and tripled in recent years now, 265 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: some of them from you know, holy crap short to no, well, 266 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: tripling is tripling. 267 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: Sure, here's your fluff. They have announced the top five 268 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: finalists for MVP of the Year in the NFL, and 269 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: I've been watching a lot of playoff footballso I'm into this. 270 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: Not surprising most of these. Josh Allen, quarterback for the Bills, 271 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: who's out, and they fired his coach, Trevor Lawrence of 272 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: the Jaguars, who is out. Also, they lost Drake May 273 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: of the Patriots. Current that's currently my team, my favorite player. 274 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: That's when we're for on a Sunday bandwagon jumper, fake fan, 275 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford of the Rams, who's still in it, taken 276 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: on the Seahawks quarterback and Christian McCaffrey of the San 277 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers, whuenfortunately played on a team full 278 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: of hospital beds and they didn't have a chance against 279 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: the Osprey's last weekend and later strangers, Hey I'm Christian, 280 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: Who are you? Yeah, I just flew in. I'm your 281 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: new starting linebacker. Yeah, demitia because the guy before me, 282 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: his knee was pointing that way and his foot was 283 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: pointing that way, and he can't play. Guys before him, 284 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: I don't even remember. Yeah, looking forward to the football. 285 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: Oh and the Oscar nominations are out, and a record 286 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: number of Oscar nominations for a movie called and I 287 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: hadn't it. I don't know if I'd even heard of 288 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: it called Sinners, which I will try to check out 289 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: this weekend. Sixteen Oscar nominations, breaking the all time record 290 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: shared by Titanic, that weird trans movie last year, and 291 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: a couple others. I'll watch it and review it for 292 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: you and tell you about it on Monday. Super coming 293 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: up the Mississippi Miracle. The beleaguered southern state of Mississippi 294 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 2: has completely changed the educational reality for its children by 295 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: utterly rejecting everything the teachers' unions advocate. Awesome. If you 296 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: miss the segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on 297 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: demand to be here Armstrong and Getty. 298 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: A Canadian man accused of posing as a commercial pilot 299 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 4: and a flight attendant in order to get on hundreds 300 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: of flights has been arrested. Now the suspend Dallas McCornick 301 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: indicted on federal. 302 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: Wire fraud charges in Hawaii. 303 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 4: Prosecutors say he used fake IDs in order to request 304 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 4: seats on several airlines for years, his lawyer declining to comment. 305 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: He got on hundreds of flights posing is either a 306 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: pilot or an air waitress. I don't care what the 307 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: punishment is or the fine is. He ends up ahead 308 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: like way way, way ahead, unless they find him a 309 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: million zillion dollars and put him in jail for the 310 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: rest of his day's for wire fraud? Do you mean 311 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: just in terms of saving money on travel? 312 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: Okay? Where do I sign up for that? 313 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: I can go like virtually anywhere in the world with 314 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: this fake ID, And after hundreds of flights, even that means, 315 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: if that means two hundred and one, I'll have to 316 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: pay the piper, get a lawyer, pay a fine, whatever. 317 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: Okay, where do I sign up? Where do I show up? 318 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: Your mind went that direction. My mind went the direction 319 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: of being screamed at because this time I left my 320 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 2: belt on, but last time they screamed at me to 321 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: take it, not take it off any at the last airport. 322 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: And then you let this guy hundreds of times, you know, 323 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: have any idea who he is to get on your plane? 324 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, actually you've unintentionally jack or perhaps semi intentionally 325 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: pointed out to one wrinkle of this. He got through 326 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: security with that fake ID because he didn't have a 327 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: boarding pass, right. 328 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: Unless where do you get the boarding pass? 329 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Do you go to the ticket counter and say, hey, 330 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm a pilot, I need to get to Buffalo? 331 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: How was any flights to Buffalo? Tangent I was one 332 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: of the flights ies on over break, Apparently a pilot 333 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: guy got on, he had the pilot outfit on and 334 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: he just pokes his head in the cockpit. He shows 335 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 2: as like bad, he's got anything. Hey, just let you know, 336 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: I'm back in three A if you need me or whatever. 337 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: And they say, okay, cool, thanks for letting us know, 338 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: and you walk back there. What what would be the 339 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: circumstance where you gotta like, do we have another pilot? 340 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: We need an extra set of hands up here? Would 341 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: that happen the poo's hit the fan? 342 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: I would, so I would say, are there any pilots 343 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: on the plane? 344 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: All these are like what we the two we've got 345 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: up here can't handle the current situation? Yes? Right right? 346 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: Uh uh? 347 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: If you are in the airline industry and have any 348 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: idea or can just enlighten us how they how this 349 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: guy would have gotten past security and all I guess 350 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: with that id how does that work in short mail 351 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: bag and Armstrong in getty dot com. That's email addressed 352 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: mail bag Armstrong in Yeddy dot com. So unlike a 353 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: lot of activists, I we actually care about kids, little 354 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: kids and whether they learn or not, because learning knowledge 355 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: is the key to a successful life. According to Us, Aristotle, 356 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson, and everybody. 357 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: Else, I believe children are the future. It's a good point. 358 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: So a lot of folks who are honest are hailing 359 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: the state of Mississippi, whose public schools have rocketed from 360 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: forty ninth place in the nation to ninth in reading. 361 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: I think it is. 362 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: And according again to people who are serious about this 363 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: sort of stuff, they aren't manipulating test scores or doing 364 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: anything like that. 365 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: They've changed the way they teach. 366 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: They have utterly rejected the sort of stuff that have 367 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: ruined cal Unicornius schools in other places, where they threw 368 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: away phonics in favor of this what was it the 369 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: name of it, Jack, Your kids suffered through some of it, 370 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: uh reading method? 371 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: What was the whole word? You know, word spotting or 372 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: something whatever was Yeah, yeah, it was the idea that 373 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: you take in words, which I thought it sounded stupid 374 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: when they told me, I remember, kindergartener, first grade teacher. No, no, no, no. 375 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: The way the brain works is you take in the 376 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: word as a whole, not piece by piece. 377 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: That really, I don't know, rejecting that's true, rejecting something 378 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: that had worked brilliantly for centuries in favor of the 379 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: new fangled thing that would attest to necessitate lots of 380 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: new PhDs being hired, and lots of administrators in the 381 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: school and studies and that sort of thing, And it 382 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: was a miserable thing. 383 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: One of the obvious flaws with that theory is if 384 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna do it with phonics. So if I come 385 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: across a word I don't know, and I don't know 386 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: every word, especially when I'm five, then I've got no 387 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: way to figure it out. I've either memorized the word 388 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: as a whole, or I just I'm lost because I 389 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: have no idea the way figure it out. Sh Uh. 390 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: You know whatever. 391 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: Well, if and we learn words verbally much more quickly 392 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: than we learned them in print, which is why you 393 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: sound something out, because then you say, oh, that's the 394 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: word pirate, for instance, or of course that's a bad 395 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: one because it has asylent e but and the a 396 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: has not sounded as a long a. In fact, that's 397 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: well the worst examples I could have given. Perhaps I 398 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: should go back to school. But you sound a word out, 399 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: you realize, oh my gosh, I recognize that word. 400 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: That's how it works. Let's use the word pneumonia as 401 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 2: an example of Wait a minute, p is in psychotic. 402 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: Yes, But anyway, so the point is that the teachers 403 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: unions shoved in these revolutionary and new teaching methods and generations. 404 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: The kids were screwed and couldn't read. And Jack, I 405 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: am going to ask you, this is cold, folks. There's 406 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: no prep here. What is the other progressive principle that's 407 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: completely screwed up schools? 408 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 2: Oh jeez, there's so many. Narrow down to one. But 409 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: here's here's a hint. The idea of lowering standards to 410 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: get more people to succeed has been pretty tragic. 411 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: That's the unholiest of the unholies. You're right, but I'm 412 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: more specifically, here's a hint. Johnny and Jimmy are in 413 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: math class. Johnny punches Jimmy in the face. All right, 414 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: Johnny and Jimmy are brought to a meeting. 415 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: Where they each share their feelings, right, restorative justice. Restorative 416 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: justice is the it was like the uh, the gold 417 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: they ushered in the Golden age of bullying with that, 418 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: that's what I've actually said that to administrators. 419 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Right, And you're one hundred percent right, And speaking of 420 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: things that have been said. 421 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: Before, the bully and the bully are treated exactly the 422 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: same and get the same punishment, which is zero, right, Right, 423 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: And so the bully realized, oh, I can do anything 424 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: I want. I just have to show up and pretend 425 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: to be contrite and there are never any negative consequences 426 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: for my negative actions. 427 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, brilliant, brilliant, really great. Takes a PhD to think 428 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: that's a good idea. So anyway, this is something I've 429 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: addressed before and probably will continue to and I will 430 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: try to make it at least slightly entertaining. Every success 431 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: story you hear, including this one. Some Harlem school for 432 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: the downtrodden, some Mississippi elementary school out in the Styx 433 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: in LA some failing neighborhood school. They all have the 434 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: same fing story and they'll highlight it on sixty minutes 435 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: and act like this is so cool and novel and interesting, 436 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: then learn nothing from it, you have a return to 437 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: the basics of education, including phonics. And then you have 438 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: once again in this Mississippi situation, because they've got a 439 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: great ass kicking what's the name is essentially their secretary 440 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: of education said, yeah, we're going with traditional discipline in schools. 441 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: We are keeping order. Kids can't learn in disorder, so 442 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: we are keeping order in schools. You act up their 443 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: negative consequences period and it is working brilliantly. And the 444 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: fact that that was abandoned by a bunch of people 445 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: with utterly useless well beyond useless, I mean damaging fake 446 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: degrees from teachers colleges who said, no, no, no, we abandoned 447 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: all that because it's oppressive, because it unfairly targets children 448 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: of color, doomed all these children to lives of ignorance. 449 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: And it's horrific because, I mean, this is the Mississippi schools. 450 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: And they go into a fair amount of detail here 451 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: in this article in the Journal, but a lot of 452 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: these are heavily black, very very poor schools that have 453 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: utterly turned it around and through the very things you 454 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: progressives have set are racist. Through those means, these little 455 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: black kids have a future and they have hope and 456 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: they have knowledge. And you call people like me bigots, 457 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 1: you're monsters. Half of black fourth graders now read at 458 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: grade level in Mississippi. Half of them. Does that sound 459 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: not great? It's barely a quarter in California. Whoa Yeah, 460 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: the state elitpe frog California. And actually, this writer writes 461 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: in my home state of Illinois by not becoming wealthier 462 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: or changing its demographics, it's actually very simple and given 463 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: that Louisiana, Tennessee, and Alabama have pursued similar paths replicable, 464 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: Mississippi chose to spend less time on topics that dominate 465 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: Washington's education agenda and instead maintain a focus on what 466 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: happens inside the classroom. It focused on fundamentals. Mississippi didn't 467 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: sprinkle ferry dust on schools to improve them. It abandoned 468 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: the hocum that convinced educators that they could teach kids 469 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: to read through pictures and context clues rather than decoding words. 470 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: The state restored phonics based systems that rigorous scientific studies 471 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: have shown to work. But more than that, with the 472 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: help and support of former Netscape CEO Jim Barksdale, who's 473 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: a really interesting guy, the Magnolia State constructed a system 474 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: to teachers so they are effective at teaching students to read, 475 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: and then they get into the fact that they've reinstalled 476 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: order in the classrooms. 477 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: The fact that we put up with these incredibly low 478 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: percentages for reading and math at various grades is wow. 479 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: That deserves PhD level papers on why a society would 480 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: allow that to happen and continue for so long. Remember 481 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: we did this last year when the national report card 482 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: came out and it was so incredibly low, and it 483 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: had been steadily downward for what is it thirty years, 484 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: I think since nineteen ninety or something like that. It's 485 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: been steadily downward the entire time, and like, it's crazy, 486 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: what kind of society would do that? I mean, you 487 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: go back, you go back five hundred years. Nobody's learning 488 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: how to blacksmith anymore or whatever. We have a crisis here. 489 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: So a couple of the quotes of this discussion have 490 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: come from an art I didn't tell you who wrote 491 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: it on purpose. 492 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you who wrote it after this 493 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: word from Prize Picks. Because the big game is coming up, 494 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 2: the big Game, the big, big big game, the biggest game, 495 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: the biggest the Big Games is coming up. That means 496 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: the end of the football season as well, but you 497 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: can still get in on fun fantasy sports for football 498 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: and Bassettball, which is can continue for some time. 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Okay, one more, one more 517 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: couple of sentences. That's an odd sentence right there, and 518 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: then I will reveal who wrote it wrote what I'm 519 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: about to read. The state's success has proved uncomfortable for 520 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: the right, which is largely abandoned the promise of public 521 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: schooling in the belief that the whole enterprise should be 522 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: sacrificed in favor of vouchers. 523 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: That's your takeaway from the Mississippi miracle, that it's uncomfortable 524 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: for them. 525 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: Why not a takeaways that one part of Okay, okay, 526 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: I would suggest to the writer, Well, that's because schools 527 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: seem to be incurable in a lot of places like 528 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: cal Unicornia, all the Blue states. We've tried, we have begged, 529 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: we have screamed, we have petitioned, and they won't return 530 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: to the basics like you're talking about. 531 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: Go ahead. That doesn't make me uncomfortable. If my local 532 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: school changes things and then it gets better, why would 533 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 2: that make me uncomfortable? Yay, I'm happy about that. That 534 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: does make me think, I don't I don't even know. 535 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: You'll get it. You're gonna get it in a second. 536 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna get it. I ask you to calm yourself. 537 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: I've had nineteen cups of coffee. Oh my god. 538 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: And it has proved uncomfortable for the left, which has 539 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: surrendered to what George W. Bush called the soft bigotry 540 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: of low expectation. True, dad, Okay, So. 541 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: I will tell you what anonymous writer soon not to 542 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: be anonymous. The right will get over. 543 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: The idea that we have to abandon public schools if 544 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: you and anybody else can can inject a little common 545 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: effing sense in them and change them from bastions of 546 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: Marxistry education. 547 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: I'm fine with the idea of government supported schools, but 548 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: they're horrible. Now we've abandoned them because they're horrible. It's 549 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: the left. 550 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: It's really got to get over the soft bigotry of 551 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: low expectations. 552 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: That's a bigger leap to make. Why would this writer 553 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: try to tip his cap to both the left and 554 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: the right, Jack, because it's rom freaking am Manuel and 555 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: he wants to not offend people on either side and say, look, 556 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm the common sense guy, I'm the what works guy. 557 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: He's running for president and wants to get the Democratic nomination. 558 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: So I understand from the running for president's sandput. But 559 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: I think that's a moronic way to look at it. 560 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: That's like, oh, you said that restaurant sucks, and then 561 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: I find out they got a new chef and they 562 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: change of food. Well, then I'll try it again and 563 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: maybe I'll like it. Now. I didn't like boycott that 564 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: building for the rest of my life because the building, right, which. 565 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: Is why I held back on the raw Mamennial thing 566 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: till the end. The important stuff is the the education stuff, obviously, 567 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: and then his look, the right angry lef to have 568 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: made mistake that actually. 569 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: Makes me angry. The right who's given up on public 570 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: education are uncomfortable when there what that right nuts, We've 571 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: been streaming forever. You should do this. Now you did 572 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: this and it works. Okay, I'm back on board. You idiot. 573 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: Look you burped without saying excuse me. You've beat an 574 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: old woman into a coma. We all have things to 575 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: apologize for. Yeah, it's got a bit of that feel 576 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: to it. 577 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get. 578 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: But again, the takeaway is not running for president or 579 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: stupid stuff it makes you say. The takeaway is what 580 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: works in schools and what's good for the actual kids. 581 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: It turns out was the obvious. But glad somebody stumbled 582 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: upon I'll be damned stay here, So a quick follow 583 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: up on the school thing, then we'll move on. But 584 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: when you hear that whole reading proficiency and you're horrified 585 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: by how low the number is that people at you know, 586 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: fifth grade, eighth grade, graduating high school read at the 587 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: cutoff for what they call proficient in math or reading. 588 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: Somebody texted and you got to remember this school board. 589 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: I'm a school board member here in California. This person said. 590 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: What a lot of people don't understand is that proficiency 591 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: is determined that the sixtieth percentile. In other words, anything 592 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: above an F is considered proficient. So when you hear 593 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: that forty percent are meeting the standard, that means forty 594 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: percent or above an F. It's all it means. I mean, 595 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: that is a pretty low standard. Wow. 596 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: Way to hang in there, friend, by the way, and 597 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: do your best, which I'm sure you're doing. 598 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 599 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, the truth of revolutions is that you have 600 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: to have downtrodden people, and the history of Marxism is 601 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: that you have the actually downtrodden. You have the people 602 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: convinced that they're down trodden, and then you actually try 603 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 1: to make people miserable so they will overthrow their chains 604 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: and capitalism the rest of it. Part of me wonders 605 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: whether the activists are actually intentionally making the poor kids 606 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: uneducated so they'll rise up or something. It's either that 607 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: or there's so monumentally misguided it's hard to even comprehend. 608 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: A couple other things to jam in here at the 609 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: end of the hour. I don't know when's the last 610 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: time any of you bought an album. I don't even 611 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: know what that mean, really, but apparently hot again. Oh 612 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: it's way hot again. Yeah, but in a different sort 613 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: of way anyway. Okay, the Eagles' Greatest Hits album, which 614 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: has been the number one selling album in the world forever, 615 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: is just went quadruple diamond. It's officially sold over forty 616 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: million units. Greatest Hits nineteen seventy one and nineteen seventy 617 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 2: five album. I've never quite understand why that was always 618 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: the top selling album out there. Anyway. Michael Jackson's Thriller 619 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: is thirty four diamond, so that's the next one in 620 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: line for anybody that's buying those albums. I guess one 621 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: other thing I came across there's a chance there's going 622 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: to be a baseball lockout. They're going to strike in 623 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball again this year. Practically guaranteed. Yeah, practically guaranteed. 624 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 625 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: According to my sources close to MLB, it seems like 626 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: a real. 627 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: Shooting yourself and the foot thing for everyone. If you remember, 628 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: way back in the day, the last time they did 629 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: this of any length, it really hurt the sport for 630 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 2: quite a few years. And that was back before there 631 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: were gazillion other things I could do with my time 632 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 2: like there are, like there is now. Man, you could 633 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: lose a lot of people past. And if I'm the 634 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: Dodgers ownership and I just went out and spent another 635 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: quarter of a billion dollars on yet another fantastic player 636 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: to make sure that I continue to win World Series 637 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: and I'm going for my third in a row, I'm 638 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 2: really really unhappy with the idea of this. That's part 639 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: of the problem. Signed all the other teams. That's part 640 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 2: of the lockout. 641 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: Let me interview the players. Owners got to give. Let 642 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: me interview the owners, players union, you got to give. 643 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: It's like every other lockout in the history of the world. 644 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: You're right about the popularity sport, but there's a huge 645 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: gulf between them on a couple of big issues salary 646 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: caps and I can't even remember the rest of it, doomed. 647 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 2: Do I like that sport? And yeah, it ain't gonna 648 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: help it any I always wanted to become more popular 649 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: and this is not gonna make it more popular. Oh well, 650 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? 651 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 2: We had we started in on a fantastic discussion about 652 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: what this country's going to be like. If AI turns 653 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 2: out to be what it's gonna be in terms of 654 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: people working and surviving and having motivation, maybe we'll follow 655 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 2: that up an hour four And if you don't get that, 656 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and 657 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: Getty