1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,839 --> 00:00:39,638 Speaker 2: Joined by the newarch member of the Patriots Hak Fame, 5 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:40,359 Speaker 2: Mike Raybold. 6 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 9 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 10 00:00:50,519 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 11 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,719 Speaker 2: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. 12 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:58,519 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 13 00:01:03,119 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, you know. I'm so excited for Jayvon. 14 00:01:10,919 --> 00:01:12,678 Speaker 3: You saw in the first minut of forty five yard return, 15 00:01:12,679 --> 00:01:15,239 Speaker 3: which is awesome, Okay, And that's the kind of explosive 16 00:01:17,438 --> 00:01:18,799 Speaker 3: I think that he is. He's gonna be able to 17 00:01:18,839 --> 00:01:21,318 Speaker 3: make play for you. There's certain things back there from 18 00:01:21,359 --> 00:01:24,599 Speaker 3: a communications standpoint that I can do better throughout the 19 00:01:24,598 --> 00:01:26,678 Speaker 3: week so that he's more prepared for certain kicks that 20 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: you're getting. With the temperature with the win, those balls 21 00:01:29,759 --> 00:01:31,879 Speaker 3: are hard and he hasn't had a whole lot of experience 22 00:01:31,839 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: back there, So that type of game where the win 23 00:01:34,119 --> 00:01:35,958 Speaker 3: was kind of affecting the way that kicker was kicking 24 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: the balls. Didn't feel comfortable going on the rest of 25 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: the game, just based on the second kickoff return how 26 00:01:40,679 --> 00:01:43,279 Speaker 3: that ended up playing out and something that we've really 27 00:01:43,279 --> 00:01:45,438 Speaker 3: worked on this week and he'll continue to get better. 28 00:01:45,639 --> 00:01:47,519 Speaker 3: So definitely not giving up on the guy, but in 29 00:01:47,519 --> 00:01:49,839 Speaker 3: that game, that situation for a rookie, I didn't want 30 00:01:49,839 --> 00:01:53,399 Speaker 3: to put him in a bad situation. And he makes 31 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:55,999 Speaker 3: a critical mistake in the third fourth quarter, then you're 32 00:01:56,119 --> 00:01:58,759 Speaker 3: everyone's like Javon Baker this, No, that's a coaching mistake. 33 00:01:58,839 --> 00:02:01,159 Speaker 3: So I wanted to make sure he was good and 34 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 3: we were some things this week and he'll get better 35 00:02:02,919 --> 00:02:04,999 Speaker 3: and better. And I said, you saw I have forty 36 00:02:05,039 --> 00:02:07,039 Speaker 3: five yard turn even with the mishandle he got the 37 00:02:07,039 --> 00:02:09,558 Speaker 3: ball up, got done the sideline, made a good move 38 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:11,159 Speaker 3: And that's the kind of guy you want back there 39 00:02:11,239 --> 00:02:12,758 Speaker 3: that can make those plays. And I think he will 40 00:02:12,759 --> 00:02:14,879 Speaker 3: in the future. But again, just continue to work with 41 00:02:14,959 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 3: him and just exposing him the situations. 42 00:02:17,159 --> 00:02:17,358 Speaker 2: Member. 43 00:02:17,399 --> 00:02:19,678 Speaker 3: He's from south too, He's from warm Weather. He ain't 44 00:02:19,679 --> 00:02:21,599 Speaker 3: seen no weather like this. He's about to see like. 45 00:02:21,679 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: Next month, and that's a learning experience for me. 46 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: Is I ain't seen weather like that either, So just 47 00:02:26,038 --> 00:02:28,078 Speaker 3: getting an understanding of how to play the win, how 48 00:02:28,079 --> 00:02:30,559 Speaker 3: to play certain balls, especially with the new kick off 49 00:02:30,559 --> 00:02:32,478 Speaker 3: for balls are on the ground, balls are short now. 50 00:02:32,918 --> 00:02:34,559 Speaker 3: It's not easy back there, and if you have never 51 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:37,439 Speaker 3: done in your career, you can be exposed to some things. 52 00:02:37,478 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 3: You don't want to expose a young kid too fair. 53 00:02:40,279 --> 00:02:42,279 Speaker 1: To say that they'll be back out there this week. 54 00:02:42,679 --> 00:02:44,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when the situation calls for I think, 55 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:46,039 Speaker 3: you know, we'll have him back there at times, like 56 00:02:46,079 --> 00:02:49,319 Speaker 3: once we start feeling completely comfortable we're giving him more 57 00:02:49,359 --> 00:02:51,279 Speaker 3: exposure to certain type of kicks, then. 58 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:52,599 Speaker 2: He'll be our guy, I think. 59 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 3: And it's just like right now, it's like I want 60 00:02:54,519 --> 00:02:56,198 Speaker 3: to expose him as much as I can in practice 61 00:02:56,519 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: so I feel good with him and don't put him 62 00:02:58,079 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: in a bad situation. It's all about, like I never 63 00:02:59,679 --> 00:03:01,559 Speaker 3: want to put a kid in a bad situation because 64 00:03:01,559 --> 00:03:03,559 Speaker 3: I know how talent he is and you're like, well, 65 00:03:03,559 --> 00:03:04,319 Speaker 3: he's really good. 66 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:05,199 Speaker 2: We're like, yeah he is. 67 00:03:05,279 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 3: But I don't want to make a poor coaching decision 68 00:03:07,679 --> 00:03:09,719 Speaker 3: and put him in a situation where he gets in 69 00:03:09,758 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 3: the papers for the certain things where it could have 70 00:03:11,999 --> 00:03:13,439 Speaker 3: been that's all me, not on him. 71 00:03:13,559 --> 00:03:15,439 Speaker 2: That's how I look at it. How do you relate 72 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:16,638 Speaker 2: that information to him? 73 00:03:16,679 --> 00:03:19,439 Speaker 3: Because at that age, that experience in the NFL, it's 74 00:03:19,719 --> 00:03:21,758 Speaker 3: it's tough to have a forty five yard return and 75 00:03:21,799 --> 00:03:24,999 Speaker 3: then say show I felt like I was feeling momentum. Yeah, 76 00:03:25,079 --> 00:03:26,719 Speaker 3: you just you explained to him, like, hey man, this 77 00:03:26,799 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: is not nothing to do with like you make mistakes. 78 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,279 Speaker 3: It's more like, hey, I want to make sure I 79 00:03:31,279 --> 00:03:33,759 Speaker 3: protect you right now. And Jevon is great on the sideline. 80 00:03:33,799 --> 00:03:35,519 Speaker 3: He wasn't mad about it at all or anything. There's 81 00:03:35,559 --> 00:03:38,519 Speaker 3: no like, no arguments or anything like that. It was 82 00:03:38,559 --> 00:03:40,239 Speaker 3: more like I got you, and like this week we've 83 00:03:40,279 --> 00:03:42,359 Speaker 3: been working on certain things like that to help him out, 84 00:03:42,759 --> 00:03:44,319 Speaker 3: just like when they need a job right there, Like 85 00:03:44,559 --> 00:03:46,919 Speaker 3: I want to protect a kid. I know how much 86 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:49,279 Speaker 3: how talent he is, and it just takes time sometimes 87 00:03:49,559 --> 00:03:51,599 Speaker 3: with this new rules, I can't say enough. With a 88 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:53,999 Speaker 3: new rule and the way the wind works out here 89 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:55,999 Speaker 3: and the way these kids are coming, man, it's not 90 00:03:56,039 --> 00:03:58,679 Speaker 3: easy being back there. It's almost hard being a pumper turner. 91 00:03:58,679 --> 00:04:00,519 Speaker 3: Because you just don't know what you're gonna get sometimes. 92 00:04:00,839 --> 00:04:02,919 Speaker 1: How tough is that to work on? Like you can't 93 00:04:03,359 --> 00:04:05,279 Speaker 1: win do certain things and you guys are indoors on 94 00:04:05,399 --> 00:04:05,958 Speaker 1: those day. 95 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:10,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got jugs, machines that can do certain things 96 00:04:10,239 --> 00:04:11,719 Speaker 3: with the football, So you got kids that can do 97 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:12,199 Speaker 3: certain things. 98 00:04:12,239 --> 00:04:13,639 Speaker 2: You try to emulate that. 99 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:16,238 Speaker 3: And sometimes the weather even out here on a practice 100 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: da where you're like we're gonna do this, do this, 101 00:04:17,799 --> 00:04:19,439 Speaker 3: do that, and then you come out it's. 102 00:04:19,359 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: Like raining or it's we to go indoors. You just 103 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:22,959 Speaker 2: got to switch it up and do the best. 104 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,199 Speaker 3: You can pre and post practice too, like getting him 105 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: out there exposing that and then showing him around the 106 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 3: league what's going on. 107 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:28,999 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 108 00:04:29,039 --> 00:04:32,319 Speaker 3: Like watch the the game from last night, a snowstorm, right, like, 109 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: this is the kind of football you're gonna get in 110 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: this game. We got to mentally prepare for that and 111 00:04:35,719 --> 00:04:43,399 Speaker 3: hopefully prepareing for that kind of thing. Yeah, guy handled 112 00:04:43,438 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 3: it initially in the field of play when in the 113 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: end zone. 114 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:51,278 Speaker 2: Yeah he said he didn't know the rule. Yeah, which, yeah, 115 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:51,838 Speaker 2: I'm telling. 116 00:04:51,678 --> 00:04:56,519 Speaker 3: You there's a lot of different it's a completely new 117 00:04:56,599 --> 00:04:58,879 Speaker 3: rule book on this thing. So the different rules in 118 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:01,439 Speaker 3: which you get it. So those returners back there, those 119 00:05:01,558 --> 00:05:03,319 Speaker 3: you gotta know what you're doing. Like that ball hits 120 00:05:03,318 --> 00:05:04,998 Speaker 3: in the in the landing zone, it hits you, it 121 00:05:04,999 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: goes in the end zone, take a knee. But I 122 00:05:07,078 --> 00:05:08,998 Speaker 3: mean for a young guy who's never even done a 123 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:11,758 Speaker 3: rep of that, you expose him things like that and 124 00:05:11,799 --> 00:05:14,319 Speaker 3: you make him look bad and that that doesn't reflect 125 00:05:14,359 --> 00:05:16,238 Speaker 3: him and reflects me. So it's like, I want to 126 00:05:16,239 --> 00:05:17,878 Speaker 3: make sure you put those guys in the right position. 127 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 2: There at the end of the day. How challenging does 128 00:05:19,678 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: that change? Back? But you know, your first season as 129 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: a as a coordinator because challenge those guys with neither 130 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:26,439 Speaker 2: of you. 131 00:05:26,678 --> 00:05:29,118 Speaker 3: Yeah, so every week's new learning experience, Like you see 132 00:05:29,119 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 3: things around the league. They're like, oh man, we haven't 133 00:05:31,239 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: seen that yet. And I'm gonna tell you this last month, 134 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 3: the last two months of football, Like you're gonna see 135 00:05:35,599 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: some stuff because you go to Buffalo. 136 00:05:37,119 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: It's forty nine par wins. How can you even get 137 00:05:39,719 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 2: the ball to the twenty yard line? 138 00:05:40,678 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 3: I don't know, right, So it's like it's gonna be 139 00:05:42,558 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 3: interesting with the snow, wind, rain, like how to handle 140 00:05:45,799 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 3: the balls You've got to put guys back there that 141 00:05:48,159 --> 00:05:50,639 Speaker 3: you trust, and that's through practice, and you got to 142 00:05:50,678 --> 00:05:52,758 Speaker 3: do the best you can to go through practice and 143 00:05:52,759 --> 00:05:55,038 Speaker 3: simulate that. If you can't, then you got to go 144 00:05:55,078 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 3: with certain guys that maybe are veterans because they've been 145 00:05:57,558 --> 00:05:59,518 Speaker 3: you know, they're gonna make good decisions because they're just 146 00:05:59,799 --> 00:06:02,519 Speaker 3: they've been more years of football and they just understand that. 147 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,759 Speaker 1: Field goal for protection. 148 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: Yeah all week man, And I know those players over there, 149 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:13,319 Speaker 3: Michael Hoyt the Heart ninety seven does a phenomenal job in. 150 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:13,838 Speaker 2: The sea gap. 151 00:06:14,239 --> 00:06:17,638 Speaker 3: You know, as you go through a game on field goal, 152 00:06:18,359 --> 00:06:20,199 Speaker 3: teams are gonna start with a certain look and they're 153 00:06:20,198 --> 00:06:21,678 Speaker 3: gonna go to different looks they've probably. 154 00:06:21,438 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: Seen throughout the year that you've struggled with. 155 00:06:23,879 --> 00:06:27,158 Speaker 3: And you have to make sure on that unit that 156 00:06:27,198 --> 00:06:29,518 Speaker 3: you stay disciplined with your footwork, your eyes and you're 157 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: not shooting out as certain guys. And sometimes when that 158 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:35,118 Speaker 3: does happen against really good players, you get exposed in 159 00:06:35,159 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: those gaps and you just gotta as a coach, keep 160 00:06:37,159 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 3: harping on it, keep keep working it. 161 00:06:39,078 --> 00:06:40,319 Speaker 2: And I think this week we're working on. 162 00:06:40,239 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: A couple drills this week to kind of refocus our 163 00:06:42,558 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: technique because sometimes it gets lack of days ago late 164 00:06:44,879 --> 00:06:48,079 Speaker 3: in the season because you let's practice less time, less 165 00:06:48,159 --> 00:06:50,079 Speaker 3: time on field, goal less this and that. So I 166 00:06:50,159 --> 00:06:52,038 Speaker 3: think this week Mail did a great job letting me 167 00:06:52,039 --> 00:06:53,998 Speaker 3: get some more time with those guys and and really 168 00:06:54,198 --> 00:06:56,399 Speaker 3: harming down some technique stuff. And you just got to 169 00:06:56,399 --> 00:06:58,879 Speaker 3: be consistent with those guys, man. You can't you can't 170 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: let up. You can persistent as a coach, even in 171 00:07:01,198 --> 00:07:03,078 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, like make sure minded guys are their 172 00:07:03,119 --> 00:07:05,398 Speaker 3: cues and things like that, because after a long drive 173 00:07:05,479 --> 00:07:07,558 Speaker 3: like that, you score a touchdown, I mean you make 174 00:07:07,599 --> 00:07:09,439 Speaker 3: it a one score game and you get that done 175 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 3: right there. That's those are critical mistakes, man. Those are 176 00:07:12,159 --> 00:07:14,759 Speaker 3: games that does things that make you lose. 177 00:07:14,599 --> 00:07:16,038 Speaker 2: Games right there. And we got to be better in 178 00:07:16,078 --> 00:07:16,799 Speaker 2: that in that sense. 179 00:07:17,439 --> 00:07:19,359 Speaker 3: If a former coach you wen s had last week, 180 00:07:19,799 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 3: you know, even if you're in that right tycho and 181 00:07:22,958 --> 00:07:27,759 Speaker 3: the topest positions, I mean it's hard, man, I mean 182 00:07:27,799 --> 00:07:30,439 Speaker 3: it's very it's a very thankless job. First and foremost 183 00:07:30,679 --> 00:07:32,639 Speaker 3: you're just getting hit every single time. I mean just 184 00:07:32,719 --> 00:07:34,519 Speaker 3: hit by like two or three guys every single time, 185 00:07:34,639 --> 00:07:36,479 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden're getting hit hit hit and 186 00:07:36,599 --> 00:07:38,959 Speaker 3: on the third rep, now guys are popping out and 187 00:07:38,999 --> 00:07:41,479 Speaker 3: swimming you. So now you think of like I'm getting 188 00:07:41,559 --> 00:07:43,598 Speaker 3: hit for three reps, so I'm trying to like hold 189 00:07:43,599 --> 00:07:45,199 Speaker 3: my ground and all of a sudden the guy pops out, 190 00:07:45,479 --> 00:07:48,359 Speaker 3: you fall forward, they swim the gap. So you have 191 00:07:48,479 --> 00:07:50,319 Speaker 3: to just be disciplined with your technique. But it is 192 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:53,319 Speaker 3: extremely hard position to play. Like all those guys that 193 00:07:53,359 --> 00:07:55,159 Speaker 3: have to do that, I don't I don't ever want 194 00:07:55,159 --> 00:07:56,399 Speaker 3: to be in that position, to actually be on the 195 00:07:56,399 --> 00:07:57,399 Speaker 3: field and play that position. 196 00:07:57,479 --> 00:07:59,639 Speaker 2: But it's a thankless job. But it's a tough job 197 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:02,479 Speaker 2: and really only on linemen sometimes d Liman can do it. 198 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 3: That's all they can do. And you can't put a 199 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:05,639 Speaker 3: you can't put a tight end in that position. 200 00:08:05,679 --> 00:08:07,199 Speaker 2: You can't. They got to be big bodies that are big. 201 00:08:07,239 --> 00:08:09,519 Speaker 3: They're taking on clay As Campbell, right, they're taking on 202 00:08:09,559 --> 00:08:11,039 Speaker 3: those type of body types inside. 203 00:08:11,559 --> 00:08:16,879 Speaker 2: I mean, repeated, repeated, it's not easy. Interesting at the 204 00:08:16,958 --> 00:08:27,398 Speaker 2: end of the game where he didn't want to, Yeah, 205 00:08:27,519 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 2: that's how that philosophy wise, like can you would you 206 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,239 Speaker 2: even rush in that situation? It's like where is it 207 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,999 Speaker 2: You're not gonna have a chance for yeah, Well think 208 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 2: about this. You send a rush and you get a penalty, 209 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 2: the game's over. Yeah. 210 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,039 Speaker 3: So like in that situation, if I don't feel good 211 00:08:48,078 --> 00:08:50,999 Speaker 3: about something like rush, wise, I don't want to rush that, 212 00:08:51,199 --> 00:08:53,718 Speaker 3: Like you want to be safe in a sense, and 213 00:08:53,759 --> 00:08:56,759 Speaker 3: like cover down who you cover down? It lets me 214 00:08:56,839 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 3: punt the ball. Let's rush from a punch standpoint, not 215 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:01,399 Speaker 3: actually sending an actual rush. He runs a punter in 216 00:09:01,439 --> 00:09:05,159 Speaker 3: that situation, that loses the game. The game's over. So 217 00:09:05,239 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 3: you just gotta you gotta be smart in that situation 218 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 3: and not do that. And the in terms of the philosophy, 219 00:09:09,079 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: I think we're on the same page there. Hey, that 220 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: dude does a phenomenal job punting in the plus fifty 221 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,159 Speaker 3: eighthan Evans. And if you go the next revenue down 222 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: with the one inhr line, well, now you're starting to 223 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:19,799 Speaker 3: drive with the one hr line. 224 00:09:19,839 --> 00:09:21,479 Speaker 2: So I think from a. 225 00:09:21,239 --> 00:09:23,799 Speaker 3: Talking standpoint with a situational guy, and Mayo was like, 226 00:09:23,879 --> 00:09:26,279 Speaker 3: now let's take the penalty, start the ten yard line, 227 00:09:26,359 --> 00:09:26,799 Speaker 3: and it's. 228 00:09:26,719 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: Rock and roll from right there. 229 00:09:28,319 --> 00:09:29,919 Speaker 3: So and it's a flow of the game too, right, 230 00:09:29,959 --> 00:09:32,239 Speaker 3: Like I can sit here and say, hey, this is 231 00:09:32,239 --> 00:09:33,039 Speaker 3: what I would do differently. 232 00:09:33,079 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: Next time. 233 00:09:33,479 --> 00:09:35,399 Speaker 3: But that's in a different game, in a different situation 234 00:09:35,439 --> 00:09:38,039 Speaker 3: with a different punter, right in that game, right there 235 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:39,919 Speaker 3: at that moment where like, let's just get the ball back. 236 00:09:40,239 --> 00:09:42,519 Speaker 2: Okay, We're good to go, let's roll. Thanks. 237 00:09:42,879 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: Questions. 238 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:45,799 Speaker 1: You've talked a lot about making sure to balance snaps 239 00:09:45,839 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: when you have guys with responsibilities on defense, your offense, 240 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:52,279 Speaker 1: and Mark Shones now has both. Ye, Just how does 241 00:09:52,319 --> 00:09:54,999 Speaker 1: that change his role with you if he's. 242 00:09:54,839 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: Going to be working on offense a little bit as 243 00:09:56,439 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: well as. 244 00:09:59,039 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: Like during the week, Like, does it impact his crocodole 245 00:10:01,839 --> 00:10:02,119 Speaker 1: at all? 246 00:10:02,879 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 3: He's he's a he's a professional. He knows how to 247 00:10:05,359 --> 00:10:07,399 Speaker 3: take care of his body and how to mentally prepare 248 00:10:07,719 --> 00:10:10,799 Speaker 3: offensively defensive specialties wise, And I have no he's our 249 00:10:10,839 --> 00:10:13,239 Speaker 3: punt returner, playing simple. He doing anything else for me 250 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 3: a pump returner. So I made that pretty clear on that, 251 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:18,399 Speaker 3: and he knows that, and he takes everything he does 252 00:10:18,439 --> 00:10:19,479 Speaker 3: so serious and professional. 253 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:21,999 Speaker 2: Though it's it's good. I see. I'm glad he's playing offense. 254 00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:23,999 Speaker 3: Like the more he can do for us, the better, right, 255 00:10:23,999 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 3: because he's a great player for us. 256 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:30,279 Speaker 2: What loss? The thing? It's about the falls for the 257 00:10:30,439 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: dail of the game penalty when what are your conting Yeah, 258 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:34,039 Speaker 2: I'm just curious. 259 00:10:34,199 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know there wasn't intention, but why everybody was 260 00:10:38,639 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 3: sitting there and studying steel for forty seconds? Might just 261 00:10:41,159 --> 00:10:44,239 Speaker 3: take the Yeah, you can take a false star if 262 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:46,399 Speaker 3: you want to. But just again, when we go through 263 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 3: our cadence to that situation, you can always get them 264 00:10:49,199 --> 00:10:51,119 Speaker 3: to go. I think next time when you do that, 265 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: you don't break you don't go out so early. You 266 00:10:53,479 --> 00:10:55,119 Speaker 3: go out a little later for like twenty to twenty 267 00:10:55,119 --> 00:10:56,799 Speaker 3: five twenty seconds and break the line and get to 268 00:10:56,799 --> 00:10:59,039 Speaker 3: the huddle, so it's less time out there. I think 269 00:10:59,079 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 3: in that situation we kind of rushed it out there 270 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:02,399 Speaker 3: a little bit from my standpoint. 271 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:04,119 Speaker 2: Talk to our pp like, hey, just get in the huddle. 272 00:11:04,199 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 2: Let's break it a little later right there. 273 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:07,838 Speaker 3: But again we take the penalty, why because we want 274 00:11:07,839 --> 00:11:09,239 Speaker 3: to move back five more yards to punt the ball 275 00:11:09,599 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: right there. We don't want to put up in the 276 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,639 Speaker 3: thirty seven. It's gonna be a lot harder to pin 277 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,119 Speaker 3: them inside the five yard LINEF you do so. 278 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:17,078 Speaker 2: Pro Thanks Dres. 279 00:11:17,359 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: During your weekend Patriots playbook, join John Brook as he 280 00:11:21,479 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: brings you all the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary 281 00:11:24,199 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: direct for Patriots HQ. The show features interviews with New 282 00:11:27,479 --> 00:11:29,759 Speaker 1: England and Opponent Beat writers that bring you a unique 283 00:11:29,799 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: media view of the state of the team. For where 284 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: the Patriots are concerned. Let's just get one thing done 285 00:11:34,599 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: and let's get it done right and then. 286 00:11:36,719 --> 00:11:38,239 Speaker 2: We can worry about versatility. 287 00:11:38,359 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: Am I lying to anybody here. Let's just get one 288 00:11:40,759 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 1: thing done. Let's get one thing done right, and then 289 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: we can move along. 290 00:11:44,639 --> 00:11:46,119 Speaker 2: That's kind of my biggest thing. 291 00:11:46,199 --> 00:11:48,759 Speaker 1: Search Patriots Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts.