WEBVTT - George Conway & Lt. Gov Peggy Flanagan

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly john Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds. And according to an AP NORC poll,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has lost thirteen points of approval among Republicans in

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<v Speaker 1>the last six months. We have such a great show

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<v Speaker 1>for you today. The Society of the Rule of Laws

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<v Speaker 1>George Conway stops by to talk about the Oversight Committee

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<v Speaker 1>drops with Trump's ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Then we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota, Peggy Flanagan about her

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<v Speaker 1>run for the Senate. But first the news.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Molly, it appears after the Democrats have had a

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<v Speaker 2>news cycle where they've been told they are not fighters,

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<v Speaker 2>that the House stems are going to try to remedy

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<v Speaker 2>this with a plan.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to expladre to our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>I always want to explain to our listeners. Let us

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<v Speaker 1>explain the plan. Basically, a guy called Mike Johnson this

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<v Speaker 1>sweagure of the House. So really, Trump is the Speaker

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<v Speaker 1>of the House. As he has said before, he sent

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<v Speaker 1>everyone home because he did not want to have them

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<v Speaker 1>voting on the Epstein petition. Well, the government shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson refused to swear in ad Alita Grajava. She will

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<v Speaker 1>now be sworn in. She will be the signature needed

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<v Speaker 1>for the discharge petition. Now, I want to pause for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute because what's going to happen now is there

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<v Speaker 1>will be a discharge petition. It will then go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate. This is part of this thing where you

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<v Speaker 1>have to just you're getting Republicans to vote on things,

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<v Speaker 1>so they say we want your inferency, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get them to vote to say no, do not release

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein files. So this is the point of this exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now what we're seeing is a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein emails being just flooded into the media. Now, where

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<v Speaker 1>are they coming from. This has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>this discharge petition. The estate was subpoena by Rocana, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's how these emails are coming. But the point is

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<v Speaker 1>there are just a ton of emails. There are more

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<v Speaker 1>and more and more emails, and that's what we're seeing now.

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<v Speaker 1>The discharge petition will go to the Senate. The Senate

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<v Speaker 1>will vote against releasing it because Republicans control the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is where this ends. But you still

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<v Speaker 1>are making them vote against it. You're still taking them

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<v Speaker 1>on the record. These are people who said they believed

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<v Speaker 1>in transparency, and here they are not believing in transparency,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is all meaningful. I also want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out the fact that this has become such an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>news cycle is because the people who are leading the

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<v Speaker 1>committee on oversight are pretty smart and they are making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the stuff is out when it needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be out. For example, this stuff came out today right

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<v Speaker 1>the day of the discharge petition signing or the day

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<v Speaker 1>you know that they're going to get back into work

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<v Speaker 1>in the House. And the reason why it came out

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<v Speaker 1>today was because every but he was organized. So bravo

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Garcia for doing oversight right. And you really do

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<v Speaker 1>see why it's important to have people in those jobs

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<v Speaker 1>and not just people who feel they deserve them because

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<v Speaker 1>they've worked there so long.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a favorite one of the leaks so far?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't have favorites because the whole thing is

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<v Speaker 1>so dark and it's about sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite is what Jeffrey Epstein says, have the mask

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<v Speaker 2>by housebed about Donald almost walking through the door, leaving

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<v Speaker 2>his noseprint on the glass as young women were swimming

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<v Speaker 2>by the pool and he was so focused he walked

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<v Speaker 2>straight into the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a bad one. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of bad ones here. I mean there's also the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>knew what we were doing. There's I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's everything you would think. It's Michael wolf giving Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Epp advice.

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<v Speaker 3>So shocking Michael wolf.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody else tipping off Jeff Epp.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Michael Wolfe a little too close to Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein for anyone's comfort.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I just think the job of journalists

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<v Speaker 1>is not to tip off sources.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the job of journalists may not to be to

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<v Speaker 2>try to buy whole news outlets with pedophiles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a number of reasons why this is not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got really confused. We talked about this on

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<v Speaker 2>air that when Trump was going to Portland. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of even my conservative friends were like, there's these riots here,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I talked to normal people and they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>there are no riots. We have now gotten to the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of this, which is that Fox News and other

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<v Speaker 2>conservatives like Andy Neo, we're putting up old footage and

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<v Speaker 2>footage from other cities pretending it was Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again this is like this news bubble thing, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you in such a news bubble that you never

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<v Speaker 1>even realize what's true or not? Like, what's the news

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<v Speaker 1>bubble here? It's so bubbly that you're looking at video

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<v Speaker 1>from four years ago, five years ago. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like worth realizing that here is Donald Trump. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a person who, as president, has access to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best information. Every single thing you know, vetted explained,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have, you know, you're the president, you could

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<v Speaker 1>call the journalists, they come in and explain it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And here is my man, Donald Trump looking at an

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<v Speaker 1>Andy no video from five years ago. Yeah, he's making

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<v Speaker 1>policy off that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's really that Andy Dios said his brand has

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<v Speaker 2>died because Antifa does not really exist. It is an

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<v Speaker 2>amorphous thing that maybe a few people will identify with.

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<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Speak for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh I forgot, I forgot. So by what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think at the president's job? I personally think of that.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people used to describe it in the

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<v Speaker 2>pre Trump era as kind of the salesman for America,

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<v Speaker 2>the ambassador who would say, our country is so great,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys should really do business here. Look at how

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<v Speaker 2>great we have it here. Well, Trump says, the United

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<v Speaker 2>States doesn't have people with quote unquote certain talents to

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<v Speaker 2>fill jobs domestically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know who got one of these visas?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it Malania?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Mulania, Mlania's recipient of one of those visas. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to bring people in from other countries because Americans

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<v Speaker 1>don't want those jobs. She had an HB one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an Einstein visa skilled worker. Look again, this was never

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<v Speaker 1>about immigration. This was always about racism, right, Like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you take them at their word, you make a huge mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from this amazing interview with Laura Ingram where

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<v Speaker 1>she says, is this stuff from home depot? And he says,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely not. And you have these goal hideous gold things

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<v Speaker 1>on the sides of the oval which are clearly from

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<v Speaker 1>home depot. But this Laura Ingram, who not a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of immigration, to say the least, at least or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>She responded, we have plenty of talented people here, Trump applied.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember Trump is always trying to serve these like

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<v Speaker 1>billionaire donors. So Trump replied, no, you don't, No, you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have certain talents and people have to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't take people off an unemployment line and say

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<v Speaker 1>imy to put you in a factory where we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make missiles. And then he pointed to the September

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<v Speaker 1>Ice ray of a Georgia Hondai facility where authorities arrested

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<v Speaker 1>and deported hundreds of South Koreans. That was like an

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<v Speaker 1>international incident. I just want to point out it's the

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<v Speaker 1>worm gooing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I know, but you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know billions of dollars in investment from the South Koreans.

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<v Speaker 1>Then their people got put in jail. That's still going that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the status is. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>real disaster for Brian Kemp, who had just convinced Hondai

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<v Speaker 1>to put the factory in Georgia. Again, these were like

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<v Speaker 1>good paying jobs. If you have tariffs to try to

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<v Speaker 1>get things manufactured in the United States and then you

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<v Speaker 1>put the people who are making the things in jail

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<v Speaker 1>or deport them, then you are going to make people

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<v Speaker 1>not want to make things in the United States. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just my hottest take.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems pretty summed. So I have a hot take.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that Ice and any police officers when we know

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<v Speaker 2>that they're out of absolute control and really are being careless.

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<v Speaker 2>It's when a baby gets pepper sprayed.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a very, very hot take.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to stand by it.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times has a baby gotten pepper sprayed? I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's a sentence I would like to never say.

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<v Speaker 2>My sister did studies on how often toddlers shoot people,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think, unfortunately we're not quite at the rock

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<v Speaker 2>bottom with us, but worse things do happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ice pepper sprayed a baby. I think that should

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<v Speaker 1>be the end of the story. These people are animals,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think every day they want to make the

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<v Speaker 1>phrase abolish ice more and more real. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a video of the agent's pepper spray of baby,

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<v Speaker 1>so probably there have been other babies pepper spray like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that this was caught on video means that

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<v Speaker 1>there have been other times. Is a one year old

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, then I know you'll be shocked to hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Ice agent lied about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of cops lying when there's footage of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and because they know that they can act with the pudity,

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<v Speaker 2>especially ice.

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<v Speaker 5>Me neither.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never heard of such a thing. George Conway

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<v Speaker 1>is the president of the Society for the Rule of

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<v Speaker 1>Law and the host of George Conway explains it all

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<v Speaker 1>to Sarah Longwell, welcome to Beat Politics, George Conway sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in my apartment.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, Yeah, this solves the problem of shitty internet access.

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<v Speaker 1>So today is one of the many.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not the first Epstein drop day. These are kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a humongous one though, you know. And and this

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<v Speaker 1>just a tranche of emails after emails, after emails, after emails.

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<v Speaker 4>I only saw the first three because I was busy

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<v Speaker 4>at meetings with her. More there are like Trump knew

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<v Speaker 4>about all of.

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<v Speaker 6>This email My favorite email was the one I first

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<v Speaker 6>saw this morning. I'm not favorite, but it's like the

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<v Speaker 6>one that's sort of like it was like a smoking gun,

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<v Speaker 6>the closest thing he was smoking gun without pictures, although

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<v Speaker 6>they were I did see an email later talking about

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<v Speaker 6>the Yeah, was the one that said Trump is the

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<v Speaker 6>dog that didn't bite, because basically he had not been

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<v Speaker 6>the subject of the investigation. And then he is saying

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<v Speaker 6>it didn't bark, talking about you didn't bite bark.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, sorry, he's.

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<v Speaker 6>Like so and that she says it says it to

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<v Speaker 6>Gleane Maxwell basically, but he was he was in with

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<v Speaker 6>in my house with so and so it turns out

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<v Speaker 6>to be Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's got to be virgin We don't know one

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<v Speaker 1>of the one in younger because it says and they

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<v Speaker 1>got her from mar Laga, which is Virginia jew Fry,

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<v Speaker 1>just the only her. Yeah, I mean that's what it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, he was alone, he was in Epstein's house with

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<v Speaker 6>a girl name redacted.

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<v Speaker 4>And then Gal says, ye know, I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 4>that too.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and you know, I mean, come on, were they

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<v Speaker 6>there talking about tariffs?

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<v Speaker 1>They were not talking about it. I do not think

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking about tariffs.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so. I do not think that. I

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<v Speaker 4>gotta say, I mean, this is like this.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, I said this morning that this is like

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<v Speaker 6>Remember how Ben Bradley, the man it used to be

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<v Speaker 6>the managing editor or something in the Washington Post back

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<v Speaker 6>in the day, in the Watergate days, he would always

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<v Speaker 6>tell us reporters, we need holy shit stories, the stories

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<v Speaker 6>and make you read and open the papers say holy shit,

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<v Speaker 6>this is a holy shit story of a different sort.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a holy shit Times one thousand story. But

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<v Speaker 6>it's also not surprising, no, exactly, because we know who

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<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump is and this is who he is. And

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<v Speaker 6>the only reason why is it's a holy shit story

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<v Speaker 6>is because you know, for years of millions of Americans

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<v Speaker 6>have gone twice twice.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, I did the first time. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, they think we can't hear anything about him

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<v Speaker 6>in the complete denial, and they pretend everything is not real,

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<v Speaker 6>and they only turn on news sources that don't tell

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<v Speaker 6>them about the Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not surprising at all.

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<v Speaker 6>It's only surprising if you've been doing that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I think they're probably going to be still be doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the real question of people really going to pay

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<v Speaker 6>attention who have who have been in denial about Trump

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<v Speaker 6>and have this cognitive dissonance about Trump, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the thing that gets me about these emails is,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, Trump knows he's in them, right, he.

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<v Speaker 6>Must have known, right, and and what's his face, Todd Blanche,

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<v Speaker 6>his lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows he's in them because the FBI went through them.

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<v Speaker 6>But even before that, well, this is a separate this, this,

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<v Speaker 6>this is this was subpoena exactly from the estate.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was assumed that the that the government had this.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and the government we know from that reporting that

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI went through what a thousand guys reacting Trump's.

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<v Speaker 4>Name looking for this right.

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<v Speaker 1>So even but even before this, like Trump and BONDI

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<v Speaker 1>were like, we're going to release the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to do this, We're going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you have that level of cognitive dissonance, like

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, I hung out with this guy, my

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<v Speaker 1>best friend for a decade, release the files.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, you know, Donald Trump doesn't think very well, and

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<v Speaker 6>he doesn't He's very good thinking in the moment, right,

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<v Speaker 6>but he's not really good about actions and consequences, which

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<v Speaker 6>is why he's a criminal, right and convicted criminal in fact,

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<v Speaker 6>and an adjudicated digital rapist.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't he just one of these people.

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<v Speaker 6>He's just one of these people who's whose psychological growth

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<v Speaker 6>stopped at age three, four or five. And he just

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I mean, you just and he doesn't understand

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<v Speaker 6>that his actions can cause negative consequences to himself. If

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<v Speaker 6>he does these things and negative consequences occur to him,

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<v Speaker 6>he doesn't blame himself. He blames you, him, her, these

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<v Speaker 6>other people, right, and says that, oh, everybody else does this,

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<v Speaker 6>so I can lie about it because everybody else lies

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<v Speaker 6>about it, and he doesn't. He says that, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>in his head, you know, it's of course, you know

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<v Speaker 6>he didn't. He didn't think this through, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about BONDI, Like Pam Bondy, she had all

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<v Speaker 1>those influencers come to the White House.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, gave them binders.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I hate to say this about the Attorney

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<v Speaker 6>General in the United States, but it just may be

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<v Speaker 6>that Pam Bondi.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a war on it could be. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to I don't want to go out on

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<v Speaker 4>a limb here.

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<v Speaker 1>This morning, I was reading the cash Battel private jet

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<v Speaker 1>story from the Washington Post, which is about Cash Battel

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<v Speaker 1>using the FBI jet basically as you know, just living

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<v Speaker 1>it up and also ruining investigations and tweeting about them.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, speaks about investigations, say we are we are investigating this,

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<v Speaker 6>and then the people skip the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I say, hey, wait, yeah that's us. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I'm going to arrest them first. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm not a cop, and I've never been.

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<v Speaker 6>But he's like, normally, before you start talking about the

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<v Speaker 6>people who you're investigating and you're about to invest arrest them,

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<v Speaker 6>you arrest them first.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's funny because it's like, I want to pull

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<v Speaker 1>back for a second, because you and I have been

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<v Speaker 1>through this fucking administry.

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<v Speaker 4>We have been through it together for the last eight years.

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<v Speaker 6>We've been friends and million tens of movies all of you, yes, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially us though, because we've really been through it. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think I think something's happened over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks where it's gone from maybe not the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, but yeah, I think since the election,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gone from this is all really scary and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to end up in an autocracy to oh, it's Trump, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's The incompetence is back.

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<v Speaker 4>The incompetence is back.

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<v Speaker 6>And also people are learning that they are not alone

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<v Speaker 6>in fighting back, and they learned that from the No

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<v Speaker 6>King's events, and they learn that from the election results.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's why even I who you know who, you

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<v Speaker 6>know how I am. I'm not the most pessimistic person

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<v Speaker 6>in the world, but I've been saying it's always going

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<v Speaker 6>to get worse before it gets better, even I you know,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a there's a skip in my step, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>But the thing is, it will still get worse before

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<v Speaker 6>it gets better, because this does not remove him from office, now,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I mean even though we have people like

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<v Speaker 6>Bobert and and he's voting for this in Marjorie Taylor

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<v Speaker 6>me signing this discharge position petition which now is to

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<v Speaker 6>eighteen is that to eighteen once?

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<v Speaker 4>This once this congressman, I think she got sworn in today, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but it dies in the Senate. I mean, the thing is,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's but it's make But the point is.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, it makes them vote, and it shows that there

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<v Speaker 6>are cracks in the facade, but it's not gonna it's

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<v Speaker 6>not going to be to do all and end all,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're still stuck with him for the duration. Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>And do you ever see the movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Wagon the Doll. Yes, I love that movie.

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<v Speaker 6>We're in there, yeah, yes, and Venezuela, you know, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you know the thing that always happens with these narcissistic

0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.720
<v Speaker 6>psychopaths who get in positions of power and then inevitably

0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.400
<v Speaker 6>get themselves in trouble like, yeah, you know, they told

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<v Speaker 6>him so, don't they class up? And he did it

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<v Speaker 6>anyway and it didn't work out so well. They get

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<v Speaker 6>themselves into deep ship and the problem is they ultimate

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<v Speaker 6>we blow themselves up. I say this, I've said this

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<v Speaker 6>podcast fifty times. They blow themselves up. And the problem

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<v Speaker 6>is the blast radius. Are we going to be within

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<v Speaker 6>the blast radius? And this is you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>he's done so much damage. Yeah, in just a few months.

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<v Speaker 6>The blast radius is already large. And as he becomes

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<v Speaker 6>more desperate, you know, it's it's going to get worse

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<v Speaker 6>and we have to prepare ourselves and we really need

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<v Speaker 6>to stand up more. Yeah, you're not not cave like

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<v Speaker 6>eight or eight people did in.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democratic Senate leadership.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Chuck, we're talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Ump, No, fe I mean, the point is they should

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<v Speaker 1>have kept the government. You're going to hut down the government,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it shut down.

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<v Speaker 4>He must have made him really mad the other day

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<v Speaker 4>what you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, all I'm going to say is let's just talk

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<v Speaker 1>about where Trump is right now. Okay, So he's in

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<v Speaker 1>his house eating McDonald's, watching Fox News's throwing ketch up

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall.

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<v Speaker 4>What happens. The odor in there has got its terrible

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<v Speaker 4>what happens now?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's seventy nine, he is desperately clinging to power.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, do you think it's just weeks of distraction?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's going to go on the attack somehow.

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<v Speaker 6>He's going to say the emails were fake, right, He's

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<v Speaker 6>going to say, there's nothing in there that implicates me.

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<v Speaker 6>He's going to say that, just ask Klain Maxwell, No,

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<v Speaker 6>don't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to say.

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<v Speaker 6>There is going to be no logic to anything he does,

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<v Speaker 6>and the answers, the things that he will spout out

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<v Speaker 6>as usual, it'll be like, you know what, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know the game twister? Will you spin the thing? Like

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<v Speaker 6>one day he's going to say this, the next day

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<v Speaker 6>he'll say the one on the like the yellow piece

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<v Speaker 6>of the pie. And it's going to be completely the

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<v Speaker 6>opposite of what he said the other day. And none

0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.000
<v Speaker 6>of it's going to be consistent, and it's all just

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<v Speaker 6>going to be a bunch of noise. And he's going

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<v Speaker 6>to blow a few things up, yeah, which may be

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<v Speaker 6>Portland or maybe Caracas.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and that, and it is really we really have

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<v Speaker 1>handed over the nuclear code to a complete limited.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct yes for the second time, Yes, second time. Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>I And he's talking about the news like I have

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<v Speaker 6>these great nuclear weapons I want to test one moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's pretty it's it's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if we could just talk for a minute

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<v Speaker 1>about how sort of like how you chip away at

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<v Speaker 1>the base. So like there was this very good pulling

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.679
<v Speaker 1>that just came out that chose the Republican He's not

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<v Speaker 1>he's being blamed for the economy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, because he's president. He's president.

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<v Speaker 6>And what that's the thing about being president is presidents

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<v Speaker 6>have less impact on the economy than people assume they do, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and so but that but the problem is people assume

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<v Speaker 6>the presidents have everything to do with the economy, and

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<v Speaker 6>therefore you get blamed.

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<v Speaker 4>If inflation goes up like a blip.

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<v Speaker 6>Biden, or if it goes up a lot, or it

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't or something doesn't happen perfectly, it's your fault, even

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.359
<v Speaker 6>if you can trace it back to something that your

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<v Speaker 6>predecessor did, or you can trace it to something that

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<v Speaker 6>the Saudi's did with oil, or you can trace it

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<v Speaker 6>to some extern a war. But the point about it

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<v Speaker 6>is Trump always takes credit for things that he's not

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<v Speaker 6>entitled to take credit for. And he says that he

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<v Speaker 6>is the man who controls everything and is the do

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<v Speaker 6>all and end all and the brilliant thing. And he's

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<v Speaker 6>been talking about how wonderful is tariffs are, and it's me,

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<v Speaker 6>me and me, I take credit for everything. So of

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.360
<v Speaker 6>course he's going to get blamed. And this time, actually

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<v Speaker 6>he's having more of an impact on the economy than

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<v Speaker 6>any other president because he's doing fucked up things.

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<v Speaker 4>Because of the tarriffs. The tariffs, Yes, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think? I wonder what the tariffs. It's clearly

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<v Speaker 1>a Donald Trump fantasy. He always thought that this was

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<v Speaker 1>the way.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I can't figure out the tarriffs thing. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 6>I think what he liked. I think I think he

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<v Speaker 6>does have some quarter Bank idea that tariffs represents strength

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<v Speaker 6>and they're good historically, which is complete and utter bullshit.

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<v Speaker 6>Any historian, any economist, any economic historian, anybody with any

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 6>common sense thinks it through for ten minutes and knows

0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.320
<v Speaker 6>anything about the supply the laws of some lining. The

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 6>man would think so too. But I think the thing

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 6>he loves about tariffs is it makes him feel powerful,

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<v Speaker 6>like right, shack them up and people come saying, mister President,

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 6>we want we want to you know, write, please don't

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.639
<v Speaker 6>do that to us. We are at your mercy. And

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<v Speaker 6>then he can lower them again, raise them again. And

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<v Speaker 6>that's part of what you've been seeing with this, like oh,

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<v Speaker 6>the tariffs up and down off. On any given day,

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<v Speaker 6>he's up and it's like, oh, we have the greatest

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<v Speaker 6>trail to eat trade deal?

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<v Speaker 4>What trade deal?

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't exist, right, It's he loves the power of

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<v Speaker 6>being able to do something with his fucking sharp beat.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>It makes people squirm and come to him. And it's

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<v Speaker 6>just like the It's like this is like pardons, right.

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 6>He loves pardons because he gets to write on a

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:48.200
<v Speaker 6>piece of paper.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't matter who they are.

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<v Speaker 6>It makes him feel powerful and people have to come

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<v Speaker 6>and supplicate to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's right, And I mean it's so it's

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<v Speaker 1>so funny because it's like so much of Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>from this nineteen eighties that I grew up in in

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.200
<v Speaker 1>New York, and so much of it is like he's

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the big man with the big family real estate business,

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>doling out to the kids, right like you do as

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>someone who had like a grandfather who was wealthy and

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<v Speaker 1>who did stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Feels very familiar. You know, it's like it's the mob.

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<v Speaker 4>You come to me, you asked me for when do

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<v Speaker 4>you ever come come to my house in friendship? So

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<v Speaker 4>there is that mom father.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the mafia thing, but it's also the rich parent

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<v Speaker 1>doling out the cat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know right right, it's the but he's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And even then the thing about the like when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about the food stamps, like this administration was fighting

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<v Speaker 1>with the courts about the food stamps and sending out

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<v Speaker 1>food stamps during the shutdown. Now the governor of Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Ivers, he ended up filling the ETF cards, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he filled the food stamp cards A T E B T.

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<v Speaker 1>This the uh, some of these democratics.

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<v Speaker 4>You I don't go anywhere. All I do is tasks.

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<v Speaker 1>But there have been democratic governors. But like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that here's Donald Trump, his administration is fighting. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>his money, it's taxpan dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>You think Donald Trump separates his the fisk, the public

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<v Speaker 6>fisk with his fisk, or his powers governance powers, or

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<v Speaker 6>his white house with some people's house. Everything belongs to

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<v Speaker 6>Donald Donald is his These are my generals, this is

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<v Speaker 6>my East Wing that I get them demolished to build

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<v Speaker 6>my all my ballroom for nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there will be more George Conways, more

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<v Speaker 1>people who are smart and can't take it? Or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's over that period of people that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't think.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think they're going to be like me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>like we're basically I've gotten to the point where I

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<v Speaker 6>just any more fs to get it. Well, they call

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<v Speaker 6>me a Democrat, I might as well. I might as

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<v Speaker 6>well just do it because there's one political party in

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<v Speaker 6>this country and the other one's just a crazy call.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. So but we'll get to that. We first got

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<v Speaker 4>to know each other.

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<v Speaker 6>What in twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen when I was off,

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<v Speaker 6>when I had off the reservation and I was kind

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<v Speaker 6>of lobbing shit out there, and people.

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<v Speaker 4>Were saying, you know why I did that? Why?

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<v Speaker 6>Because I thought if I showed that I could do

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<v Speaker 6>it with my now ex wife in the fucking White House, right,

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<v Speaker 6>people would just say, yeah, I've had fed up too,

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<v Speaker 6>I can do it too. It's like h and guess

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean. I had a few people do it.

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<v Speaker 6>I formed this group of checks and bounces that became

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<v Speaker 6>outsider for the rule of all. Some wonderful, great lawyers,

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of them from the Reagan adminstray, but by

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<v Speaker 6>and large my effort to persuade people by going out

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<v Speaker 6>there and saying, look, I e. Nothing bad will happen

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<v Speaker 6>to you. If you say this was a complete and

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<v Speaker 6>other failure, well it.

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't a complete and utter failure. But I know you

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<v Speaker 4>feel that way.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I haven't done enough. I want to

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<v Speaker 6>do more. I don't know what you know. I've been

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<v Speaker 6>trying to figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>I do wonder what's next for you. Well, we will

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<v Speaker 1>find out. I hope you'll come back to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>if you end up having a big thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to announce somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>You're just trying to push that idea you're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>push on me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying that if there were an announcement that one would

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<v Speaker 1>want to make, this would be a good place to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, especially because leon Nidas would like George Conway,

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<v Speaker 1>will you come back?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Peggy flan Again, it is the Lieutenant Governor

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<v Speaker 1>of Minnesota. And a candidate for the Democratic primary for

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<v Speaker 1>Senate in that very state. Welcome to Fast Politics.

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<v Speaker 5>Peggy, thanks so much for having me again. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 5>to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to have you know each other. Lieutenant governor,

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<v Speaker 1>a great state of Minnesota, and you are now running

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<v Speaker 1>for the open Senate seat.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's pretty exciting. It's been quite a year as

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 5>we've jumped into this race.

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<v Speaker 1>First, I want you to talk about, like what it's

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>like to run for Senate right now, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>such a weird moment. You know, in twenty sixteen, you

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>could say Orange Man bad, you would raise ten billion

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>dollars and everyone would be like, we love you. You know,

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>that is not the world anymore. So I want you

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>to talk about being a Democrat in that world. Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, I decided to run for this seat

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<v Speaker 5>because you know, I'm someone who understands what it feels

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 5>like to think the bottom could fall out at any moment,

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 5>and there are so many people who feel that way

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 5>right now, and frankly, not enough folks who understand what

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 5>that's like representing us in Washington. And so as I'm

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 5>traveling across the state, we've done one hundred events so

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 5>far since since we've launched. The things that people are

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 5>telling me is that they want us to be bold,

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 5>that this like nibbling around the edges business is not

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 5>helping anybody. I think that there's things like increasing the

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 5>minimum wage, paid family and medical leave. I think it's

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 5>time for you know, universal healthcare, medicare for all, you know.

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 5>And if folks think that somehow we're gonna win by

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 5>continuing to as Democrats to fight from a defensive crouch,

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 5>I think they've got another thing coming, you know. And

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 5>we had incredible victories a week or so ago, and unfortunately,

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 5>I think you know what we saw happen and play out,

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 5>you know, in Washington, d C. With these eight Senate Democrats,

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 5>we were able to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory.

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 5>So we got some work to do. And that's what

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 5>I think I'm seeing is that people just want us

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 5>to be fighters and not capitulate to Donald Trump and

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 5>congressional Republicans.

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I wonder what you think about Schumer said that

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>he didn't vote with them, He said that they came

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to this on their own. What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Sunday night, I was just pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>It is an incredible disapoint and if I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 5>it wouldn't have even occurred to me right to vote

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 5>for the R Like that wouldn't have even been on

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 5>the table, especially after like the incredible victories that we

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 5>saw up and down the ballot, because folks are like, oh,

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 5>Democrats are finally standing up, right, are fighting for me?

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 5>Are you know, looking at healthcare costs right and how

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 5>they're going to just skyrocket? And so I just think

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 5>people deserve more and they want more, and I think

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 5>that that's what you can see from this reaction. I

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.959
<v Speaker 5>certainly don't know the ins and outs of, you know,

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 5>what happened behind the scenes. What I do know is that,

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 5>you know, your job as a leader of a caucus

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 5>is to try to keep folks together. And it's an

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 5>incredible disappointment. And I feel like, as someone who's running

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 5>right now, we now just have to like rebuild that

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 5>trust and demonstrate that fight. And you know, this got

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 5>a little bit harder for folks unnecessarily. I don't completely

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 5>understand it, but I know so that people just were

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 5>excited because they saw Democrats standing up and having a

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 5>spine and that's the work. That's the work right now

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 5>under Donald Trump. You know, we literally see an authoritarian

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 5>regime that's like coming into power. This is not the

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 5>time to capitulate, like, it is the time to do

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 5>everything we can. And we don't have a whole lot

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 5>of tools in our toolbox, and this was the one

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 5>that we had and to just throw up your hands,

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't get it.

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't either. I also think, and this is something

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I said to this person when they called me, you

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>underestimate the base at your own peril. At this moment,

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>you are campaigning in Minnesota, like I feel like when

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I talk to people who are running for office, like

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>you are on the ground talking to the most engaged voters.

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>So what are they telling you?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we're holding what we're calling kitchen table conversations

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 5>all across the state. It's a little less scripted town

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.479
<v Speaker 5>hall and more community meeting, so folks are showing up.

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 5>We've got, of course, a lot of Democrats or dfllers

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 5>as we call ourselves here and Minnesota, but also people

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 5>who don't identify with like any political party, but are

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 5>just super freaked out by what's happening right now. And

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 5>then we have Republicans who are showing up too, And

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 5>that is important to me because I think we don't

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 5>have to agree on everything right now, but I think

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 5>the places where we do agree is that we're all

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 5>being screwed and it is the folks at the very

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.959
<v Speaker 5>very top who are doing incredibly well. We're being empowered

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 5>by the Trump administration, and the rest of us have

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 5>to fight for scraps. And so the things that I'm hearing,

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 5>the number one thing that I hear no matter where

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 5>I am, if I'm in the urban core, if I

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 5>am in greater Minnesota, is healthcare.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>That is the thing.

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 5>And this is even before we were talking about the

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 5>ACA subsidies. I was in Camby, Minnesota and southwestern Minnesota,

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 5>and there's a woman there who's a librarian and she's

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 5>married to a farmer. So they they buy in and

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 5>she said, our deductible is fifteen thousand dollars a year.

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 5>And she said, I just went to the doctor for

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 5>five minute medcheck appointment and a cost our family six

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 5>hundred dollars. That is just untenable. And so I think

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 5>it's it's important for us to be really clear that

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 5>things like prior authorization, right some dude sitting behind a desk,

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 5>who gets to determine whether or not you get the

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 5>life saving healthcarier doctor prescribed, Like, we got to get

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 5>rid of it, or we'll set off frankly like AI

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 5>or a robot and making that determination. And then I

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 5>think it's time for universal health care. We need medicare

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 5>for all. And you know what may have been seen

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 5>as like, oh, that's too far, that's too much. Folks

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 5>are ready, and so like that is the thing that

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm hearing. People want us to be bold, and they're

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 5>sick of Democrats fighting from a defensive crouch, and so

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 5>it is, you know, all about being really clear that

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 5>these are the places that we are going to throw

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:51.959
<v Speaker 5>down where we're going to fight for folks. That's what

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 5>people want.

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>So you're not going to take pack money, No a

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>pack you know, you don't have to suck up to

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>net and Yahoo. You don't have to go on a

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>trip with him. And I say this as a Jew

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>just nuts. I wonder what sort of the difference is

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>in your race, because you're running against Antie Kraig's member

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.479
<v Speaker 1>of cockers. This race is really about the difference between

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>one part of the party and the other.

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 5>Sure, So I actually think that this is really the

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 5>fight that is facing the party overall. It is I

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 5>think the difference between a corporate Democrat and someone who's

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 5>got progressive values who is going to fight for working people.

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 5>I absolutely have made the decision to not take corporate

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 5>pack money because I see that the influence that corporations

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 5>have in elections is one of the things that's gotten

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 5>us here on both sides of the aisle.

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to be you know, I think it's

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 5>really disingenuous to say I'm going to somehow, you know,

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 5>hold big pharma accountable to lower the costs of prescription

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 5>drugs in one hand, and then have another hand I

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 5>would stretch to collect a check from them. People are

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 5>smarter than that, right, So I think that is a

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 5>big difference between my opponents and myself that I don't

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 5>think the seat should go to the highest bidder. I

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 5>think it should go to Minnesotan's I am not a

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 5>Beltway darling. You know, if this race was held in Washington,

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.919
<v Speaker 5>d C. She'd probably win. Lucky for me, it's held

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 5>in Minnesota, and you know, I don't take a pac money.

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 5>But I also don't think they'd give it to me

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 5>to be there. You know, I said that I would

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 5>have voted for the Sanders resolution alongside my senators, Senator

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 5>Tina Smith and Senator Amyklobachard with regards to offensive weapons

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 5>this summer because I'm not okay with watching children starve.

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm not okay with watching children's starve in Gaza. I'm

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 5>not okay with watching children starve in Minnesota. And that's

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 5>why we re breakfast and lunch for all kids. Right,

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 5>That's a consistent value. But it's also why Apak has

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 5>decided to target this race, or to target me and

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 5>support my opponents. And I think that I can, you know,

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.760
<v Speaker 5>say that in the same way that I can hold

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 5>the Trump administration accountable and speak out if five concerns,

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 5>I can do the same thing about you know, Benjamin

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 5>notat Yahu and his government as well. They're just star

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 5>and that is I think the choice that is facing

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 5>so many folks in this country. But also just you know,

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 5>in this race in Minnesota, do you want the status

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 5>quo er? Do you want someone who's gonna to fight

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 5>and won't be beholden to the people are putting the

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 5>thumb on the scale in Washington.

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I think there's been a lot of Democrat business as usual,

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>right like not wanting to upset the Apple car, not

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>wanting to you know, leadership. He is very you know,

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>well this one was elected and you can't move that one.

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I said, you guys are all ten thousand

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>years old. And one of the things that I think

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:47.760
<v Speaker 1>made people the angriest was from twenty twenty to twenty

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty four there was a feeling that Democrats would say,

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, we can't do anything, like this is what

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>it is. We can't do anything. So you get into

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>the Senate, you will have this real, very safe Senate

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>seed and an opportunity to do really great things. And

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you're young, so talk us through how you would be

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>different than that.

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely. I mean so I'm an organizer, you know, I

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 5>was raised on the Wellstone for Senate campaign. That has

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 5>been so much of the work that I have done,

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 5>even before I got to elected office, was power mapping

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 5>who do we need to you know, build a relationship

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 5>with and move to support this policy change. You know,

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 5>the very first thing I'm going to do is have

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.879
<v Speaker 5>ninety nine cups of coffee with people right to build

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 5>those relationships. I think that that still matters. And you know,

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 5>in Minnesota sometimes I got some grief when I was

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 5>the head of Children's Defense Fund from some of my

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.879
<v Speaker 5>friends and the Democratic Party because they'd say, like, why

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 5>are you getting Republicans to author your bills? I was like,

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 5>because they're in the majority, and two years in the

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 5>life of a child, this a really long time. We

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 5>can't wait, you know, to the next biennium to have

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 5>healthy birth outcomes for you know, for children. So that

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 5>I think matters is trying to find you know, that

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 5>common ground those relationships, but also being really cleared that

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:04.280
<v Speaker 5>how I'm campaigning right now doing you know, these events

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 5>all across the state of Minnesota is also how I'm

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 5>going to govern. That I think is what the disconnect

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 5>oftentimes is about and what you know, you talk about

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 5>that gap between twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, Oh,

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 5>we can't do anything, and also tells me that you

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 5>have to get outside of Washington, DC and talk to

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 5>real people about what is happening in their lives right now.

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 5>Because when you hear about a fifteen thousand dollars deductible

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 5>or someone being denied life saving care, for their cancer treatment,

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 5>Like that hits a different kind of way, and you're

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 5>going to have a different kind of fight when you

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 5>walk back into the halls of power, because you are

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 5>accountable and you know the people who are counting on

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 5>you in this moment. So that for me, I think,

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 5>is you know what is so incredibly important. I'm come

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 5>from resiliency, right, Like I'm not even supposed to be here.

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I know what you come from, but tell us sure.

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 5>So Section eight is what secured at apartments for me

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 5>and for my mom, who was a single mom who

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 5>worked incredibly hard, but sometimes we didn't have enough money

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 5>to make ends meet. Snap is what kept food on

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:13.280
<v Speaker 5>the table for my family, And Medicaid was my healthcare

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 5>as a kid with really bad asthma, where sometimes I

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:17.720
<v Speaker 5>was like in the hospital more than I was out.

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 5>And so that to me really feels like, you know,

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 5>the experience that we need. But also, like I said,

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, I grew up carrying a box of commodity

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 5>cheese under my arm like a football from the food shelf, right,

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 5>And so I don't have the same sort of pedigree

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 5>right that a lot of people serving in Congress or

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, in the Senate too, And I think that's

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 5>a good thing, you know, And I'm not running to

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 5>make history, but there's never been a Native American woman

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 5>to serve in the US Senate before, Like it's probably time, right,

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 5>democracy works best when the people who represent us accurately

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 5>reflect the communities.

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's important, It's so important. And I also think,

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I always, as someone who was born basically

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>on sega, I always think about this, you know. I

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>always ask people, like most of the people I know,

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 1>we're also born on second base, except for exam we're

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>born on their basic and you realize, like, the one

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>thing that Donald Trump said that was really true was

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that the game is rigged.

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 5>Like that he was right, and it spoke to people, right,

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 5>And I think, like that is our opportunity. Now he

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 5>understands that the he understood that the game is rigged,

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 5>right like, and he didn't tell the truth and say

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to continue.

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>You know more exactly right, But.

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 5>We can also lean in right to that notion because

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 5>people get it right, Like, people understand that right now

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 5>when you go, you know, when I'm in the grocery

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 5>store and I watch someone, I watch a mom have

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 5>to tell her kiddo to put something back. They aren't

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 5>the money, right, Like that is that is a feeling

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 5>I am deeply familiar with, but also just like the

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 5>reality that's facing so many folks right now. So we

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 5>had to just you know, buck up and take some risks.

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 5>And you know, if I am leading into people being

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.720
<v Speaker 5>able to afford their lives and being bold and fighting

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 5>for the policies that I think are needed and necessary

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 5>in this moment, and folks aren't all about it, they

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 5>don't want to vote for me, that's fine because at

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 5>least I have my integrity at the end of the day.

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't know that everybody can say that in this moment.

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>No, for sure. And you know, I think so much

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 1>about the lesson of Kristen Cinema, who came to the

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Senate and now she lobbies for data centers. You have

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:34.439
<v Speaker 1>to have a purity of heart. I guess that's right.

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 5>It is that is that is not my dream.

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 4>That is worse.

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you it is literally like that's how we

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.359
<v Speaker 1>get here, right And I mean that's why you know

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the things like bands on lobbying, bands on congressional stock trading,

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.879
<v Speaker 1>all of that anti corruption stuff, that's going to need

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to happen. I hope that sort of in your mind

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>is the kind of I.

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 5>Mean absolutely, I think it. You know, it starts with

0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 5>not taking corporate pack money and you know, edding Citizens

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.760
<v Speaker 5>United needs to be at the top of our list.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.879
<v Speaker 5>And I think this is why, right, like having more

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 5>folks with like lived experience serving an office, talking about

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 5>stock trades, this, that and the other thing, getting those

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 5>sweet deals once you leave, you know, Congress, we just

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:20.800
<v Speaker 5>need more people who like understand what it's like to

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, live paycheck to paycheck and you know, figure

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.760
<v Speaker 5>that out. But yeah, folks know that the game is rigged.

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 5>That is all a part of it. Fighting that corruption,

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 5>you know, starting with a White House, but knowing that

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 5>it exists unfortunately in both parties.

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, if you become a senner, what is

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the first thing you're going to do. So the first

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>thing that.

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to do is again start to build relationships

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 5>with people, because I think that that really matters. The

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 5>dehumanization of folks on you know, you know, both sides,

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 5>I think is one of the things that's led us

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 5>to this this point. It's harder to attack somebody if

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 5>you know about their family and you know the things

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 5>they care about. But ultimately, you know, I think it

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 5>is prior authorization is the fight that I want to

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.879
<v Speaker 5>take on because I have seen it be so heartbreaking

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 5>and damaging to people healthcare and so you know, an

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 5>eighty percent of the time when people appeal a prior authorization,

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 5>it goes through, so like it's just a game. It's

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 5>completely unfair. And even you know, for me, right, like

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 5>I've spent hours on the phone fighting with my insurance

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 5>company to make sure that my daughter right can get

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 5>one inhaler that takes the place of two inhalers that

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 5>she can take once a day instead of twice a day.

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 5>And I'm really lucky that her pomonologist is like we're

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 5>going to the matt like, but that those kinds of things.

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 5>It is just about this bottom line. It's cruel. And

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 5>the people who can spend the time on the phone

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 5>like I can are the ones who you know, like

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 5>aren't working in that you know, factory job all day

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 5>where you have a five minute break. It's outrageous, So

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 5>we can do better. That is one of the first

0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 5>fights that I want to take on, but just generally

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 5>want to make sure that people can't afford the lives

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 5>that they want to live.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Peggy, thank you. I think talk when you're in the

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>general awesome, No more sick, Jesse Cannon.

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I have been talking to a lot of New York

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>business owners because, let's be honest, I'm a little too chatty,

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 2>which is why i went into podcasting. And one of

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the things they keep telling me over and over again

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:29.280
<v Speaker 2>is the tourists have not been here, and we're seeing

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 2>lots and lots of restaurants closing. Reading Eater, which diatribes

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 2>New York tourisms restaurant industry, you're seeing the ramp up

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 2>of restaurants going out of business at a clip that's

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 2>starting to be pretty alarming. That there's a lot of

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 2>articles and you'll be shocked to see a recent study

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:47.439
<v Speaker 2>shows Canadians, some of our biggest tourists are staying home

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 2>and not coming here, to the tune of five point

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 2>seven billion dollars of tourism.

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it turns out that declaring war on another country,

0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:00.720
<v Speaker 1>especially when it is your closest neighbor and alla makes

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>them not like you. It's a shocking development. You would

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>think right to declare war on a country which was

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of known as your ally. I think this is

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a great example of why everything in trump Ism is

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:26.479
<v Speaker 1>so wrong, is so off, is so incredibly dysfunctional and disappointing. Right,

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised by any of this. It's just such

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.320
<v Speaker 1>an unnecessary thing, like all this stuff. It's like Trump

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>created all these problems. Like, Okay, So, Canadians traditionally make

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 1>up the largest group of international tourists the US. Twenty

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>eight percent of our seventy two point four million visitors

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four were Canadian. Ano they're not coming,

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're not coming because they don't want to end

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 1>up in an ice facility, because they don't want to

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>support a country that they feel it doesn't like them,

0:44:56.880 --> 0:45:00.399
<v Speaker 1>doesn't appreciate them. You know, this is so stupid. It's

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 1>like with so many things in Trump to point out,

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 1>which like he told us he was going to do it,

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 1>it's very stupid and then he did it.

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.399
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I will tell you Canada is still pretty woke.

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>We were actually pretty shocked how woke it was when

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 2>we went there. So it's no shock they don't want

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.439
<v Speaker 2>to support the stupidity that we're doing here.

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, Canada. That's it for this episode of Fast Politics.

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