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Speaker 1: But before we do that, I realized this is a special.

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Speaker 2: It may shock you. You might want to sit down.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're maybe you're at the airport on your iPad,

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking please sit down before I break this

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Speaker 1: in World War Two. I know, I know it may

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Speaker 1: And every time a conflict breaks out, we don't have

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Speaker 1: Every guy isn't Hitler, every good guy isn't Churchill. Everybody

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Speaker 1: And I know people educated in America's education system and

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Speaker 1: there were wars forever before World War Two.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious, there was even World War One.

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Speaker 1: I promise there were wars forever before World War Two,

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Speaker 2: Have been wars after World War Two. I'm not even kidding.

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Speaker 1: So why am I being a complete smart alec here?

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Speaker 1: Because I constantly see when we discuss Russia Ukraine the

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Speaker 2: That's how large that number is.

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Speaker 1: But every time I see Russia Ukraine brought up, I

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Speaker 3: We want to be able to support Ukraine for as

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Speaker 4: We will collectively stand with Ukraine for as long as

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Speaker 5: So I'll make no mistake, we will support Ukraine's self

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Speaker 5: defense for as long as it takes. Freedom is priceless,

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Speaker 5: it's worth fighting for for as.

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Speaker 2: Long as it takes.

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Speaker 4: And that's how long we're going to be with you,

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Speaker 4: mister President, for as long as it takes.

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Speaker 2: We will do it as long as it takes. And listen,

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Speaker 1: Very well offend you. It may, but we all need

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Speaker 1: to talk about this here. Most wars, almost every single

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 1: So wars break out because politics diplomacy has broken.

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Speaker 2: Down in some way.

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Speaker 1: Somebody will attack someone else first. Yes, and after the

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Speaker 1: Halt with nothing else happening, two sides they come together

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Speaker 2: You need to pay me this much in gold.

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Speaker 1: You need to take this part of your territory which

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Speaker 2: A piece of that. But you sign a piece agreement

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Speaker 1: It's one of a million examples I could use. Go

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Speaker 1: And we're going to get into this with Mike Benz.

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Speaker 2: It's not here.

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Speaker 1: We look domestically and we see all these problems. Inflation

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Speaker 5: Providing assistance for the Ukrainians to defeat the Russians. That's

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to

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Speaker 4: end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if you President,

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Speaker 4: with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come

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Speaker 2: I've been to Ukraine that you say, what problems we have?

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Speaker 4: I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, and

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Speaker 6: Don't tell us what we're going to feel.

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Speaker 3: You're not in a good position. You don't have the

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Speaker 1: You start having right now, you don't.

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Speaker 4: You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.

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Speaker 3: You're gambling with World War three.

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Speaker 6: You're gambling with World War three.

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Speaker 2: Have you said thank you once? A long times?

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Speaker 1: Bizarre, wasn't it almost as if there's a commitment to

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Speaker 2: We have to hear it over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: So allow me to once again before we go to

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Speaker 1: We're we're gonna really dig into Ukraine and the UK

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Speaker 2: We're gonna tackle all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Every conflict is in World War two. Everybody who invades

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Speaker 1: It's the most important thing in the world, and that

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Speaker 1: to Mike Ben's about Ukraine. What's really going on?

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Speaker 2: Gonna go on for a long time and he'd better

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Speaker 1: I find this whole thing to be so incredibly bizarre

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Speaker 1: It seems like, even if Zelensky doesn't, that somebody wants

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Speaker 2: Just look, one point five million dead is an estimate.

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Speaker 2: It's just awful.

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Speaker 1: I bet you, Mike bens knows a little bit about

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Speaker 1: something because he seems.

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Speaker 2: To know where all the bodies are buried around this planet.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now, my friend Mike Ben's executive director for

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Speaker 1: Mike, help me understand or maybe I don't know how

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Speaker 2: Haven't talked about it off camera of it.

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Speaker 1: Help me understand why we continue to need NATO at all.

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Speaker 2: But am I looking at that wrong?

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Speaker 3: But the fact is is NATO became an offensive weapon

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Speaker 1: Mike benns I want to rewind in something that's gonna

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Speaker 3: Governance Board at dhs UH. It's it's it's one big

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Speaker 3: conjoined blob in that sense, they had a US branch

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Speaker 3: office as well. They recruited cluster cell members from every

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Speaker 3: NATO country. They deliberately recruited in their own terms, members

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Speaker 3: of the military, members of financial and regulatory oversight bodies,

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Speaker 3: members of the journalism class, cultural influencers.

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Speaker 6: They even had in these leaked.

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Speaker 3: Documents detailed success write ups of how they had sabotaged

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Speaker 3: the political chances for different political candidates across the EU.

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Speaker 6: For example, they.

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Speaker 3: Had a whole army time code for how they sabotaged

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Speaker 3: the nomination of Pedro Banos, the man who was nominated

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Speaker 3: to be the effectively Minister of Defense in Spain, because

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Speaker 3: they thought that he was too favorable to Russia. That

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Speaker 3: was the predicate that they they used to oust him.

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Speaker 3: How they ran a whole covert Twitter campaign and then

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Speaker 3: ran stories to the media back channeled with the UK

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Speaker 3: Embassy in Spain and the Spanish embassy in the UK

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Speaker 3: to run it directly up to the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 3: Spain that he had to tank the nomination for who

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Speaker 3: was going to be effectively their chief defense officer. And

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Speaker 3: this was all while the Integrity Initiative documents instructed inter

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Speaker 3: Cluster Cell members to be helpfully uninformative about sources of

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Speaker 3: funding so that people wouldn't know it was coming from

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Speaker 3: British state craft. And again it's not just British state craft.

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Speaker 3: That was Nina Jancovitz, that was the whole Michael Chertoff network.

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Speaker 3: They worked closely with the Atlantic Council, which is funded

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Speaker 3: by eleven different US governments, receives tens of millions of

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Speaker 3: dollars in US taxpayer funds. So the issue is is

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Speaker 3: the UK, when it comes to Ukraine, has massive interest

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Speaker 3: in Eurasia. When the Cold War ended, the UK expanded

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Speaker 3: its portfolio deep into Eurasia, into the privatization of Russia

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Speaker 3: in the newly liberated post Soviet Eastern European countries, and

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Speaker 3: so there's a huge financial interest for London and for

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Speaker 3: London banking portfolio companies to expand into Eurasia, and this

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Speaker 3: is part of the British spider web there. They can't

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Speaker 3: do it on their own. They need American muscle to

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Speaker 3: make it happen. And this is why you see so

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Speaker 3: much British statecraft focused on controlling US domestic affairs to

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Speaker 3: make sure the money keeps slowing to Ukraine and the

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Speaker 3: boys keep sending their military support and their fighter jets

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Speaker 3: and their drones to kill Russians. This great game has

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Speaker 3: been playing out between the British and the Russians since

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Speaker 3: the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 6: We had a.

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Speaker 3: Crimean war before twenty fourteen. It happened in the mid

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Speaker 3: eighteen hundreds. You can look that up. It's called the

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Speaker 3: Great Game. This is the popular monarch for this contest

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Speaker 3: between the Brits and the Russians over Eurasia. And the

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Speaker 3: Americans have been used like pawns in this now willing

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Speaker 3: pawns because so many American multinational companies and politicians get

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Speaker 3: their donor support or get their revenues from the war profitteering.

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Speaker 3: But the big loser here is the average US taxpayer

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Speaker 3: who doesn't see any of that money flow trickle down

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Speaker 3: to them and instead is using their own income tax

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Speaker 3: to subsidize war profiteers, effectively a million miles away.

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Speaker 1: Mike, let's rewind a little bit to the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the Trump era, because you mentioned Russia Gate and things

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Speaker 1: like that. What was I mean, it's obviously I don't need,

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Speaker 1: you know, a lecture on why Hillary Clinton wanted to

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Speaker 1: stop Donald Trump. But why was this international community, NATO itself,

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Speaker 1: Why were they all in on Trump? I realized why

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Speaker 1: they might be now, but back then, it's not that

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Speaker 1: he was an unknown guy, but politically he was relatively unknow,

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Speaker 1: but it really seems like they went all in to.

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Speaker 2: Stop Trump back then. Can you help me understand that?

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Speaker 3: Well, he broke the bipartisan consensus on foreign policy that

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Speaker 3: it existed from Truman until Trump. You know, there was

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Speaker 3: always this saying in Washington that politics stops at the

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Speaker 3: water's edge, meaning we can disagree with each other over

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Speaker 3: tax rates and abortion and you know, healthcare, but we

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Speaker 3: don't disagree party wise when it comes to our foreign

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Speaker 3: facing foreign policy activities. What we're going to do visa

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Speaker 3: v Russia, what we're going to do visa be China,

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Speaker 3: what we're going to do visa be Iran, and Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: There are only a few times in US history that

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Speaker 3: there was a party line divide over foreign policy. I

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Speaker 3: think probably the most famous one to this day is

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Speaker 3: the Iran contra affair in the early nineteen eighties with Nicaragua,

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Speaker 3: when you had the Democrats pass something called the Bolan

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Speaker 3: Amendment out of the House.

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Speaker 6: That was that.

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Speaker 3: Barred US taxpayer funds from going to overthrow the Sandinista

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Speaker 3: government in Nicaragua. But the Republican Party at the time

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Speaker 3: that was Ronald Reagan and George Bush Senior, wanted to

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Speaker 3: overthrow the government in Nicaragua, and so they designed what

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Speaker 3: they called the Enterprise, a private, self sustained off the shelf,

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Speaker 3: standalone capacity to have the CIA and the National Security

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Speaker 3: Council of the White House prop up covertly without telling Congress,

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Speaker 3: a regime change network and essentially narco gangs, a drug

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Speaker 3: military drug cartels to trading drugs for cash for guns,

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Speaker 3: to to try to topple the Sandinista government with a

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Speaker 3: violent paramilitary coup. And this led to a giant scandal

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Speaker 3: when the Democrats found out about this and held a

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Speaker 3: series of hearings. This was Ali North and everyone can

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Speaker 3: look up the You know these the famous congressional hearings,

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Speaker 3: But that was a relatively small country with frankly, not

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Speaker 3: all that much economically on the line. Nicaragua. With Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: you have trillions of dollars at stake here. A foreign

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Speaker 3: policy divide could be disastrous to all the multinational companies,

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Speaker 3: to all the banks, to all the foreign governments who

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Speaker 3: have already started the process of skating towards where the

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Speaker 3: puck was going. You have right now this situation, this

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Speaker 3: dispute over the mineral resources in Ukraine. Ukraine sits on

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Speaker 3: about twelve to fourteen trillion dollars worth of mineral and

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Speaker 3: rare earth, metal, and oil and gas deposits that have

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Speaker 3: not yet been mined and extracted. That is a literal,

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Speaker 3: veritable gold mine that is just waiting to be plucked

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Speaker 3: out of the earth. All manner of US multinational companies

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Speaker 3: and stakeholders want to get their hands on that. There's

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Speaker 3: also the fact that Ukraine sits on that geopolitical pivot

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Speaker 3: point between the East and the West. It is the

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Speaker 3: center of the risk board, after all, and so it

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Speaker 3: plays an enormous role in gatekeeping the flow of all

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Speaker 3: energy resources into the Five hundred and fifty million people

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Speaker 3: who live in the EU who traditionally got their gas,

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Speaker 3: their oil and gas from Russia. But if Ukraine can

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Speaker 3: be made a solid NATO state and hold the line

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Speaker 3: and box out Russian imports, then you cut off Russia.

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Speaker 3: And then Russia goes bankrupt unless they have a lifeline

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Speaker 3: from China, which they're now getting to NATO's dismay. But

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Speaker 3: if NATO were to be economically bankrupted that way, there

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Speaker 3: goes all of the military resistance to the Pentagon all

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Speaker 3: around the world. Right now, Russians are helping African countries

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Speaker 3: do military coups against French and US controlled governments. We

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Speaker 3: saw just just the finally year of the Biden administration.

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Speaker 3: I believe four different governments in the Sahel that were

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Speaker 3: controlled by US and French proxies.

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Speaker 6: I think this was.

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Speaker 3: Nigerer, Cote Deuvoir, Chad, and I think one or two

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Speaker 3: others were all ousted when Russian backed African rebel forces,

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Speaker 3: effectively trained on by Russian special forces and supplied with

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Speaker 3: Russian small arms, kicked the US and French governments effectively

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Speaker 3: out of power. That would not be possible if Russia

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Speaker 3: was economically bankrupted because they had no export markets for

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Speaker 3: their oil and gas. You may recall John McCain's saying

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Speaker 3: that Russia is just an extended gas station with a

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Speaker 3: military attached, and to some extent that they're not wrong

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Speaker 3: about that, although it is more than just oil and gas.

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Speaker 3: They sit on seventy five trillion dollars worth of natural resources.

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Speaker 3: This was the major aim of the nineteen ninety in

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Speaker 3: the privatization of Russia by the West, the selling off

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Speaker 3: of the state held assets to London and Wall Street.

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Speaker 6: Putin reversed all that.

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Speaker 3: When he took power in nineteen ninety nine and began

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Speaker 3: that process.

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Speaker 6: But that war is still ongoing.

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Speaker 3: And I think the point that I'm trying to drive

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Speaker 3: home here is there will never be peace in Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: not in our lifetime. There may be a peace deal struck,

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Speaker 3: but the constant pressure to militarily build up Ukraine to

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Speaker 3: one day take back the territories that were just lost

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Speaker 3: in this war, and if that's obtained, to continue to

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Speaker 3: push east east east, ever eastward is going to always

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Speaker 3: be there. The temptation will be there in the same

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Speaker 3: way that lust is a natural temptation of man, in

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Speaker 3: the same way that greed and gluttony is a natural

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Speaker 3: temptation of man.

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Speaker 6: There will always.

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Speaker 3: Be a native NATO desire to expand and seize those

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Speaker 3: seventy five trillion in Russia, to take Ukraine and Kyrgyzstan

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Speaker 3: and Uzbekistan and the whole corridor until there's nothing left

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Speaker 3: to be looted.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a quick time out right there,

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Speaker 1: a little break. We'll be right back with more wisdom

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Speaker 1: from Mike Binns. All Right, Mike, just real quick for

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Speaker 1: I let you go. I have to ask do you

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Speaker 1: make do you take any stock in this? There were

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Speaker 1: some ties to Ukraine and the Russia and the Trump

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Speaker 1: assassination attempts. Do you put any stock in that at all?

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Speaker 1: Do you consider that internet conspiracy theory nut job news?

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Speaker 1: Or do you do you say, say there's something to it?

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Speaker 3: I think it's unclear currently certainly the ties. I think

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Speaker 3: the story is much much deeper and darker than what

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Speaker 3: has been disclosed already. What I've uncovered in the space,

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Speaker 3: having done probably about ten hours just of livestream lectures

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Speaker 3: on the topic. Ryan Routh's involvement in Ukraine was frankly unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Versus how it's been covered. I mean, this was a

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Speaker 3: guy who was recruiting violent terrorists and military extremists from

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Speaker 3: Afghanistan and US trained Afghan special forces from Pakistan, from Syria,

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Speaker 3: from Iran, bringing them, collecting thousands and thousands and thousands

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Speaker 3: of their passports, copies of their passports, in order to

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Speaker 3: run them to the US embassy in Kiev to get

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Speaker 3: them expedited passports to serve as human meat fodder in

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Speaker 3: the canons heading towards Russia in Ukraine. And the fact

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Speaker 3: is is that's CIA work.

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Speaker 6: Can't do that.

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Speaker 3: As a civilian Jesse, you and I can't just go

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Speaker 3: over to Pakistan and recruit terrorists to bring them to

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Speaker 3: Ukraine to get them no look fast past visas with

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Speaker 3: the US embassy to get them to.

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Speaker 6: Fight in a Pentagon war.

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Speaker 3: I mean the number of security clearance levels you're tripping

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Speaker 3: in doing this. Somebody had to be looking the other

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Speaker 3: way during this, because the military has to be apprized

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Speaker 3: of the recruiting effort. The CIA has to be apprized

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Speaker 3: of that. They don't know who these fighters are. What

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Speaker 3: if these fighters start firing on Ukrainians? What if they

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Speaker 3: what if there's some lack of cohesion with the Ukrainian troops.

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Speaker 3: This needs to be vetted, and a homeless guy living

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Speaker 3: in Hawaii with no assets to his name can't do that.

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Speaker 3: You had a very strange episode in June twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three when Customs in Border Patrol actually flagged Bryan Routh

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Speaker 3: at the airport when he was returning from his whirlwind

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Speaker 3: trip across Romania, in Ukraine and Poland. He comes back

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Speaker 3: home in Hawaii, He's flagged by Customs and Border Patrol

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Speaker 3: because of the suspicious activity and the lack of an

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Speaker 3: ability to give a straight answer at the time. He

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Speaker 3: gave Customs and Border Patrol a business card where he

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Speaker 3: claimed to be the director of a five to one

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Speaker 3: C three nonprofit in Ukraine which gets into this Ukraine

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Speaker 3: ANDNGO network. Of course, something like eighty to ninety percent

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Speaker 3: of the ENGOs and Ukraine are funded by the US government.

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Speaker 3: Customs and Border Patrol then flags flags Ryan Routh to

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Speaker 3: DHS to saying this guy looks suspicious. We want you

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Speaker 3: to investigate this person now. DHS with the time was

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Speaker 3: being run by Alejandro Majorkis, who was a scoundrel of

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Speaker 3: the highest order from everything from Internet censorship to opening

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Speaker 3: the order to even having his own no look fast

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Speaker 3: passed visa scandal In twenty fifteen, the Inspector General of DHS,

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Speaker 3: back when Myorcis was the deputy DHS director for the

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Speaker 3: Obama administration, Maorcis was invested by his own Inspector General

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Speaker 3: for what for giving no look fast pass visas to

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Speaker 3: political donors to the Democrat Party. And this is exactly

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Speaker 3: what Ryan Routh was accused of doing, not only accused

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Speaker 3: of doing, shown to be doing in his own Facebook

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Speaker 3: messages where he provided receipts, he actually had a real

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Speaker 3: time chronological log of his effort to get no look

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Speaker 3: fast past visas, the very thing that the man in

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Speaker 3: charge of DHS supposed to be investigating him was accused

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Speaker 3: of doing by his own inspector General. So every step

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Speaker 3: of the way, he was flagged by CIA targeters like

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Speaker 3: Sarah Adams, he was flagged by DHS, He was in

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Speaker 3: communication with the US Embassy in Kiev, he was doing

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Speaker 3: CIA effective recruitment operationations for terrorists to come to Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: And that same person happens to be waiting at the

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Speaker 3: what twelfth hole of the Trump golf course to assassinate

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Speaker 3: him with an automatic weapon. There's a reason I think

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Speaker 3: that this case has been delayed. If folks remember the

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Speaker 3: status update here, the Justice Department under the Biden administration

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Speaker 3: requested an indefinite delay in the trial because of the

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Speaker 3: complexity of the evidence. Well, what's so complex about the

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Speaker 3: evidence here? How is it that he accumulated dozens of

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Speaker 3: terabytes of a digital footprint as somebody were told, barely

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Speaker 3: could afford access to Wi fi? Who was he communicating with?

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Speaker 3: What we're on those encrypted chat apps? That the FBI

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Speaker 3: has control over the phones when they seized his phones

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Speaker 3: and home electronics. To me, this is a story that

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Speaker 3: needs immediate attention by Cash and Pam Bondi because my

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Speaker 3: suspicion here is the reason that the Biden Justice Department

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Speaker 3: has punted on this case, and you have not heard

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Speaker 3: a peep since formally requesting the judge to delay the

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Speaker 3: trial so that they could draw it out the same

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Speaker 3: way they've drawn out the JFK assassination. Is because there

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Speaker 3: are links here. The reason that he was allowed to

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Speaker 3: go on and do this for so long in Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: the reason he was allowed to operate the way that

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Speaker 3: he did in the us was because somebody deliberately looked

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Speaker 3: the other way, or worse, was in communication with him

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Speaker 3: the whole time he was planning to do this.

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Speaker 1: Mike, I really should have cut you off early. I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have asked that last question, because now I'm so

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Speaker 1: unbelievably creeped out that I've just freaked out at this

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Speaker 1: point in time. Mike, you are the best brother. Come

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Speaker 1: back soon. I appreciate it as Wow, that's terrifying, not surprising,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, that's terrifying.

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Speaker 7: Anyway, We're not quite done.

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Speaker 2: It is a tangled web.

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Speaker 1: And you just heard all the stuff from Mike Ben's

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Speaker 1: You heard me tell you about you know how we

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Speaker 1: frame these things.

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Speaker 2: Everything is World War two? It is not.

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Speaker 1: But there are ugly things at play here, things that honestly,

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Speaker 1: if I'm being frank with you, I'm not one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent sure we all want to know the answer to now.

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Speaker 1: I know you want to know. I want to know.

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Speaker 1: But do we want to know? Do we really want

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Speaker 1: to know? Why so many people are so intent on

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Speaker 1: keeping this blood letting going on forever? It's a it's

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Speaker 1: an ugly world out there. Anyway, keep yourself in prayer.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it again,