1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with the criminal hush money trial of 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Jurors are expected to begin deliberations today. Let's 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: get the latest from Bloomberg's John Tucker in New York. 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: John Nathan. After more than six weeks of testimony, closing 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: arguments wrapped up last night, the prosecutor urging the Manhattan 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: jury to consider what he called a mountain of evidence 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: showing the former president try to influence the twenty sixteen 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: election by paying a porn actress to stay silent about 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: an alleged sanctional encounter. I've been trying to cover his tracks. 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: This morning, Judge wan Er Shan will give the twelve 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: person panel instructions on how to apply the law to 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: the case, known as a jury charge, and then we'll 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: send them to the jury room to begin deliberations. Trump 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: faces thirty four counts of fualseing business records if he's 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: found guilty if any of the counts, the next step 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: will be for the judge to sentence him. A typical 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: defendant convicted of a felony charge is sentenced to serve 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: some prison time, but there's nothing of the law that 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: requires it. Each of the counts is an E class felony, 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: which carries a prison term of one of the third 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: years to four years. The judge has made it clear 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: he takes white collar crime seriously. In New York on 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: John Tucker Bloomberg. 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: Radio, all right, John, thank you. We now turn to 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: the latest developments in the Middle East. The White House 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: says and Israeli strike on an encampment in Rafa that 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: left dozens dead was devastating, but did not cross the 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: red line. Bloomberg's Ed Baxter reports. 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 4: The administration says the President has no intention of freezing 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: additional arm shipments. NSC spokesman John Kirby says it was 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: not the large scale attack the US had worn against. 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: We have been, I think, very strident in our condemnations 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 5: about the deaths of innocent civilians. Yes, are not excused 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 5: from that, but we have to understand what happened here. 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: Israel, in fact, says it's small arms air drop could 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: not have caused the explosion that killed dozens. It says 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 4: it had to have been Hamas stored munitions, Ed Baxter 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 4: Bloomberg Radio Thanks Ed. 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: Turning to markets now, Futures are lower ahead of the 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: Wednesday session on concern about rates impacting investors. Yesterday, the 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: FEDS Neil Kashkari set officials have not entirely ruled out 45 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: additional rate hikes. Lori Calvacina is head of US equity 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: strategy at RBC Capital Markets. 47 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 6: We do think, based on sort of the messaging of 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 6: where the economy is likely to be this year, what 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 6: the Fed is likely to do or not do this year, 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 6: and where inflation is likely to end up, we seem 51 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 6: fairly valued. And I know that's a little bit of 52 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 6: a boring message, but we do feel a little bit 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 6: stuck in neutral for the moment. I will say I 54 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 6: am not in the bearish camp. We do have a 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 6: few strategists who are still sitting over there, and we 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 6: do think that we're sort of midway through a recovery 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 6: that begin a for session like conditions in twenty twenty two. 58 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 6: But sometimes we do get a little bit stuck in 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 6: the market, and that's how I'm feeling at the moment. 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: Glory Calvacina of RBC Capital Market says her year end 61 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: price target for the S and P five hundred is 62 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 2: fifty three hundred. That's just a few points from where 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: it closed yesterday. 64 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Well, we have plenty of deal news to get you 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: caught up on. Nathan. The Financial Times is reporting Knago 66 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: Phillips is in advanced talks to acquire smaller rival Marathon Oil. 67 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: The paper says the proposed all stock deal would value 68 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: Marathon at more than fifteen billion dollars. Shares of Marathon 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: are at more than five percent in Europe. 70 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Care and BHP has asked for a deadline extension on 71 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: its takeover talks of rival Anglo American. The minor says 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: it's proposed a range of measures intended to address concerns 73 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: regarding the proposed transaction structure. BHP's third all share proposal 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: valuing Anglo at forty nine billion dollars, was rebuffed last week. 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: And in the drug industry, Nathan Mrk is reportedly buying 76 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: privately held i Bio. The FT says the price tag 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: three billion dollars. The paper says the acquisition pushes Merk 78 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: into the growing market for eye care. 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: And another company news, Karen, we're watching shares of American 80 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: airlines fly lower. They are down nearly eight percent. The 81 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: airline cut its profit guidance heading into the crucial summer 82 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: travel season. American also says its chief commercial officer is 83 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: leaving the company. 84 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 1: Well, we turn to Asia now, Nathan. The Chinese economy 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: is getting a boost from the International Monetary Fund. It's 86 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: raising its growth forecast this year for the world's second 87 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: biggest economy to five percent. That's that from four point 88 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: six percent just a few weeks ago. Gita Gopinath is 89 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: the IMF's first Deputy Managing Director. She says twenty twenty 90 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: four has gone off to a strong start in China. 91 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 7: We certainly are seeing that consumption is recovering, but still 92 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 7: it has some ways to go. The strength we're seeing 93 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 7: in public investment remains. Private investments is still weak, mainly 94 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 7: because of the weakness and the property sector. 95 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: The IMF's Gita go Banaf as calling on China to 96 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: provide more fiscal and monetary support for its economy, including 97 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: more steps to resolve the housing crisis. This month, China 98 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: announced easier down payment requirements for home buyers and about 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: forty two billion dollars in central bank funding to help 100 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: local governments buy excess properties. 101 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: Well back here in the US. Karen, the short seller 102 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: who made his fame and fortune off the collapse of Enron, 103 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: is now facing a lawsuit from one of his partners. 104 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: Jim Chanos, founder of Channos and Company, is accused of 105 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: taking ten million dollars in loans from the company over 106 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: more than a decade and using them as a quote piggybank. 107 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: The lawsuit from Conlin Holdings also accuses Channos of selling 108 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: a Miami luxury apartment for seventeen point eight million dollars 109 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: and then using his girlfriend as the sales agent, netting 110 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: her a more than half million dollar commission. Channos tells 111 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: Bloomberg the lawsuit is puzzling and baseless, but it. 112 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: Is time now for a look at some of the 113 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: other stories making news in New York then around the world, 114 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: And for that we're joined by a Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, 115 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: Good Morning. 116 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 8: Good morning. Karen. Harvey Weinstein is expected to appear before 117 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 8: a judge this afternoon in the same New York City 118 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 8: courthouse where former President Donald Trump is on trial. The 119 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 8: disgraced movie producer is awaiting a retrial on rape charges 120 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 8: after his twenty twenty conviction was tossed out. Today's court 121 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 8: hearing will address various legal issues related to the upcoming trial, 122 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 8: which is tentatively scheduled for some time after Labor Day. 123 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 8: Two people were missing and seven were injured when a 124 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 8: natural gas explosion caused extensive damage to a building in 125 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 8: downtown Youngstown, Ohio. Authorities say yesterday afternoon's blast blew off 126 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 8: the facade of Realty Tower. Firefighters helped some people get 127 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 8: out of the building, which houses a Chase Bank on 128 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 8: the ground floor and as apartments in upper floors. This 129 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 8: man works a block away from the blast. 130 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 9: It sounded like a big piece of machinery like fell 131 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 9: flat onto the side street. That's how it's it. And 132 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 9: then you got a little shake with it. So my 133 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 9: initial thought is like, I've been in an earthquake before. 134 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 9: I was like, is this an earthquake? 135 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 8: By your officials say the building's structural integrity is in question, 136 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 8: so no firefighters are being allowed in to conduct a search. 137 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 8: A Texas Republican congressman representing the Uvalde area one in 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 8: a tense runoff with a gun rights activists in the 139 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 8: state's primary GOP Congressman Tony Gonzalez was one of the 140 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 8: few congressional Republicans who supported the twenty twenty two bipartisan 141 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 8: gun law created in the wake of the brutal shooting 142 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 8: in his district. At rob Elementary, Gonzales got fifty point 143 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 8: seven percent to Brandon Herrera, a gun rights YouTuber, at 144 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 8: forty nine point three percent. The number of global executions 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 8: on death rows around the world are going up, However, 146 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 8: according to a report from Amnesty International, number of countries 147 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 8: carrying out the executions is going down. Researcher Justin Mozzola 148 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 8: believes the push to abolish the death penalty must continue, 149 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 8: even as many states in the US look for new 150 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 8: methods to carry out executions. 151 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 10: Now that it's been harder for folks to get for 152 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 10: states to obtain lethal injection drugs, what we're seeing is 153 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 10: more experimentation in terms of the drugs that they're using, 154 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 10: which has been leading to more botched executions as well as, 155 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 10: you know, trying new methods or reverting to archaic methods 156 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 10: such as firing squads. 157 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 8: Researcher Justin Mizzola with Amnesty International Global News twenty four 158 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 8: hours a day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg 159 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 8: News Now, I'm Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg. Karen. 160 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: All right, Michael, thank you, and it's time now for 161 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Sports Update with John stash Hour. 162 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 11: John, good morning, Good morning, Karl. The Rangers went to 163 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 11: Game four at Florida coming off back to back overtime 164 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 11: wins for their last five Stanley coupleoff victories had come 165 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 11: in ot another game where sixty minutes not enough, but 166 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 11: early and overtime Florida was on the power play. 167 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: Hein harsh pak. 168 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 11: Cousin, Hitia Ross montour at Chuck Fright sine line one 169 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 11: tour down low martopot Right stars still the tablier in. 170 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: Game four this series, he's tied sap right or. 171 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 11: From right out in front qam the call. Panthers scoring 172 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 11: just a minute thirteen in. Can't blame Igors since Turkett 173 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 11: he made thirty seven Saints. Rangers got goals from Vincent 174 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 11: Trocheck and Alexis La Frontier, but four games into the series, 175 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 11: still no points for either Chris Krider or his linematee 176 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 11: meekas advantage that has still no goals for our Temmi Paneren. 177 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 11: Game five at the Garden tomorrow night. There's never been 178 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 11: an NBA playoff with two conference finals sweeps, and there 179 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 11: still has not been. Minnesota stayed alive a Game four 180 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 11: winn in Dallas one o five to one hundred. The 181 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 11: MAVs still leave the series three to one. Yankees at 182 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 11: the Angels, who are twelve under five hundred and only 183 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 11: won six home games all season. The Angels won four 184 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 11: to three on a Taylor Ward two run double eighthenning 185 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 11: off play homes Juan Soto a long first stenning homer 186 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 11: for the Yanks. Anthony Bultpeaks ended his hitting streak to twenty. 187 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 11: Dj Lemy, who back from injury, played for the first 188 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 11: time this season. 189 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 8: Long day for the Mets. 190 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 11: Francisco Lindor two run homer third inning of the open 191 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 11: of the double header, and the Mets were held scoreless 192 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 11: for the next sixteen innings, lost to the Dodgers five 193 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 11: to two and ten, and then three nothing in the 194 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 11: nightcap of The Mets have now lost seven or last 195 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 11: eight fourteen of their last eighteen red slots one eighty 196 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 11: three at Baltimore, the National shutout in Atlanta two nothing. 197 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 11: The Giants are won nothing tenanting win over the Phillies. 198 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 11: Novak Djokovic has not won a tournament or even reached 199 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 11: the final this year, but he has won twenty four 200 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 11: career Grand Slams. Anyone who's opening round match at the front. 201 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 8: Opened in straight sets? 202 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 11: John stashedtw're Bloomberg Sports. Can it meath? 203 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 8: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 204 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 8: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 205 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 8: Bloomberg Business app. 206 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning on Nathan hager Well. 207 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: After more than six weeks if proceedings, a long day 208 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: and night of closing arguments and a litany of complaints 209 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: from Donald Trump, the first ever criminal trial of a 210 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 2: former president is about to go to the jury. And 211 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: joining us now for more on this is Greg Valley, HF, 212 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: us policy strategist at AGF Investments. Greg, Good morning. We 213 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: did see prosecutors spend all day and much of the 214 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: night going through the evidence with the jury. Where do 215 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: you see this thing going now that deliberations are about 216 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: to begin? 217 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, good morning, Athan. I mean everyone has a forecast 218 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 12: and I do too. Mine is that this is going 219 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 12: to drag on for quite some time, with maybe a 220 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 12: mature or two holding out and that maybe there'll be 221 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 12: some guilty verdicts, maybe there'll be also some not guilty 222 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 12: verdicts together, but I think we got a ways to 223 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 12: go that. 224 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: Could spell what something positive for the president. You would 225 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: think if jury deliberations go on for quite some time, 226 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 2: it raises the possibility of reasonable doubt, does it? 227 00:11:59,400 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 9: Huh? 228 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 12: Yeah? I think so. And I think it also would 229 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 12: reinforce his really expert ability to play the martyr. I 230 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 12: think he's going to continue to say that this is 231 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 12: an uncare which hunt. I think that he runs the 232 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 12: risks still of a violating the gag order. You know, 233 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 12: if he violated that, Nathan and had to serve a 234 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 12: day or two in jail. I have a hunch, being 235 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 12: a contrarian, that Trump would love it. It boost his 236 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 12: support among his base, It would be great publicity. It 237 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 12: again would make him look like a martyr. So I 238 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 12: don't rule out some often you know, outside the box 239 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 12: moved by the judge to say you violated the gag order. 240 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does raise the question about what that would 241 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 2: mean for the independent vote, to bring it into the 242 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: crass realm of political impact of a case like this, 243 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: when you have the you know, the serious nature of 244 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: felony charge against a former president. But where do you 245 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: see things going if we do see the former president 246 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: behind bars for whatever reason, and you know, potentially heading 247 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: into a November election with felony convictions on his record. 248 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 12: We're in such unscharted waters and obviously unprecedented, so it's 249 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 12: hard to make an accurate prediction. I would say that 250 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 12: if he is found guilty, he'll appeal, and he's great 251 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 12: at appealing, delaying, delaying, delaying, so I think he would 252 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 12: appeal and an appeal would go well into twenty twenty five. 253 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 12: Could he serve as president with an appeal? Yeah? I 254 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 12: think he could. 255 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: I wonder what you made as well of the Biden 256 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: campaign taking advantage of the media spectacle around the case 257 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: yesterday and bringing out Robert de Niro in January sixth 258 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: first responders to put the focus on what the president 259 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: has been running on well since twenty sixteen, the potential 260 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: threat to demand that he sees from former President Trump. 261 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's an argument they can make, but I thought 262 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 12: yesterday was a spectacle. I think they didn't exactly help 263 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 12: themselves with Denira's comments. But this will go on I 264 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 12: think there's also going to be a focus on what 265 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 12: Trump said a couple of days ago that the judges 266 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 12: are what he called them, a human scum. I mean, 267 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 12: you make charges like that. I think Trump's biggest flaw 268 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 12: right now is Donald Trump. I think that he is 269 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 12: so he has no filter whatsoever, and I think that 270 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 12: will continue. I think a lot of moderate voters are 271 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 12: going to get tired after a while of a non 272 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 12: stop Trump controversy. We're not there yet, but I think 273 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 12: by the end of the summer people may say enough 274 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 12: is enough. 275 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: It's something to say to say that we're not there 276 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: yet after all these weeks of testimony. But in the 277 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: time that we have left, Greg, I want to get 278 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: your thoughts on what we heard from the White House 279 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: yesterday and the strike on the camp in Rafa. Not 280 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: crossing the White House's red line. 281 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean presidents in recent history have had problems 282 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 12: with red lines. Barack Obama had a problem with crossing 283 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 12: the line, and he looked bad. I do think that 284 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 12: the US Israeli relationship will continue to deteriorate. I never 285 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 12: thought I would see a US president and an Israeli 286 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 12: Prime minister that are estranged and the two of them 287 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 12: are virtually estranged right now. 288 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: This kind of estrangement does it have a political impact 289 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: on President Biden. 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