WEBVTT - Start of OTAs, Chris Godwin & Cade Otton’s Evolution | Bucs Insider

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Books Insider Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Casey Phillips here with senior writer and editor Scott Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have OTAs to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Feels a little bit more football.

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<v Speaker 3>Letantom, Yes, it's phase one, Phase two great, but finally

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<v Speaker 3>now phase three and with you know the OTAs, the

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<v Speaker 3>of the Vets, you have the rookies all out it's

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<v Speaker 3>our first chance to kind of get a look at.

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<v Speaker 4>Looks like real pros.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks more like real practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Your first time to see the Vets and the rookies

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<v Speaker 2>all out there together after.

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<v Speaker 1>Rookie mini camp.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just to me it always feels like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the real start of the next season a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I know that we have a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>get to because of that. We also have a trivia

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<v Speaker 2>question like we do every week now, so let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>Take it away.

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<v Speaker 5>I like to make the trivia question something relating to

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<v Speaker 5>something we're going to talk about. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about kay Otten and Titans a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 5>So the question is Kate Otten's forty two receptions in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty two were the second most in Buccaneer's history

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<v Speaker 5>by a tight end. In his rookie season, who holds

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<v Speaker 5>the team record for most receptions by a rookie tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>Rookie tight end most receptions?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So if you know the answer to this,

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<v Speaker 2>please leave it underneath the comments underneath our live video.

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<v Speaker 1>We will try to see.

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<v Speaker 2>If anyone gets it right later on give you a

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<v Speaker 2>shout out on the show if we see it.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, that is your question.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave your answer in the comments underneath our live video

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook. So for now, let's talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about Chris Godwin, because, as we said, we've got the

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<v Speaker 2>rookies out there, we've got the vets, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>so funny now to think of Godwin as like such

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<v Speaker 2>a vet and he's been here for so long that

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<v Speaker 2>out there with everybody that this is the guy one

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<v Speaker 2>of the you know. Now with this new offense, new

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<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator, Godwin is the elder statesman out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it'll be interesting to see not only him, of

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<v Speaker 2>course he's great in a leadership role, but now with

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<v Speaker 2>a new offensive coordinator, him coming off an injury, what

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<v Speaker 2>are our expectations for him this year and what that

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<v Speaker 2>could look like.

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<v Speaker 4>He was actually laughing about that too.

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<v Speaker 5>He said he came in one day and some of

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<v Speaker 5>the other vets weren't there, and he's looking around. He's like,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like the old guy now, and I don't feel

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<v Speaker 5>like an old guy. Don't feel like a young guy.

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<v Speaker 5>But Chris Godwin, one of the things he said when

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<v Speaker 5>he spoke to the media on Tuesday that I loved

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<v Speaker 5>was he said he thinks he's very close to being

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<v Speaker 5>back to the peak form he was at before his

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<v Speaker 5>knee injury in December of twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, remember we're.

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<v Speaker 5>Talking about a guy who had that injury in December

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<v Speaker 5>December nineteenth, had surgery on January fifth or something like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and was back on game on Week one of the

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty two season, and then, despite missing a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of games, had one hundred and four catches, which was

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<v Speaker 5>just too short of the team record for a single superhuman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>He was fantastic last year. He really was.

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<v Speaker 5>But the offense, as we know, was a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>quick passes, which played into him playing out of the slot,

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<v Speaker 5>and so as you see here, his yards per catch

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<v Speaker 5>were by far his lowest of his career. And what

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<v Speaker 5>we have here is sort of the evolution of how

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<v Speaker 5>Chris Godwin's role in the offense has gone since his

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<v Speaker 5>rookie season. If you look in the leftmost column there,

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<v Speaker 5>you see the differences between the percentage of his plays

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<v Speaker 5>in the out wide and in the slot. And the

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<v Speaker 5>reason those don't add up to one hundred is because

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<v Speaker 5>there's other things like in the backfield or lined up tight.

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<v Speaker 5>But for the most part, that's most of his snaps.

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<v Speaker 5>And look at that from seventy sixty seven percent. Early

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<v Speaker 5>in his career he was playing mostly outside and then

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<v Speaker 5>twenty nineteen was the arrival of Bruce Arians and that staff,

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<v Speaker 5>of course, and he started playing a lot more in

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<v Speaker 5>the slot. Now, if you look at his yards per

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<v Speaker 5>catch and his route depth, you see those gradually go down.

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<v Speaker 5>But we see from those first three seasons in particular,

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<v Speaker 5>especially twenty nineteen, even though he's playing a lot more

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<v Speaker 5>on of the slot, this is a guy that can

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<v Speaker 5>get downfield.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what Dave Canals and Brad didzig No about

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<v Speaker 5>Chris Godwin. Yes, he's fantastic in the slot. We're very

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<v Speaker 5>lucky to have a big slot who can dominate in that.

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<v Speaker 5>But he can also really help you on the outside.

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<v Speaker 5>He can get deep if you think about the first

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<v Speaker 5>touchdown in Chris Godwin's career, it was that in the

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<v Speaker 5>last game of his rookie season that won the New

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<v Speaker 5>Orleans game. James Winston was probably supposed to throw a

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Chris Gowin was probably running just a clear

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<v Speaker 5>out round on a fly and Jamis was probably supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to throw it underneath to get some yards for the

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<v Speaker 5>game winning field goal. Instead, you threw it a top

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<v Speaker 5>to Chris Godlin for the touchdown. And that's the kind

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<v Speaker 5>of play that Chris Godwin is capable of making. And

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<v Speaker 5>now they're going to use him more in that role.

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<v Speaker 5>They'll still play in the slot, but he's going to

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<v Speaker 5>go back to playing more on the outside. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think you'll probably see his route depth in his yards

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<v Speaker 5>per kerry go out, I mean yards per catch go up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And then another person that I know hopes to be

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<v Speaker 2>a big part of the offense, Kate ot and you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>We wanted to discuss him.

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<v Speaker 2>He spoke to the media and you know, now you

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<v Speaker 2>have no Cambray, you have no Gronk. So the tight

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<v Speaker 2>end group and leader is definitely going to look different

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<v Speaker 2>than it has in a long time here at the Buccaneers.

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<v Speaker 2>But Kate Aten had some really big moments in some

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<v Speaker 2>big games last year and as a rookie, which is incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do we feel like expectations could be for him?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he seem like the guy that is ready to

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, the number one guy in that room.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you hear him talking about meeting Gronk? Did you

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<v Speaker 5>hear what they said they did? No, you probably think, like,

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<v Speaker 5>smash beer Ken's on their head.

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<v Speaker 1>Or well, if it was Gronk and Je it.

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<v Speaker 5>Was at Cam's house. They played board games. I love

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<v Speaker 5>that board games with Gronk.

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<v Speaker 1>Board games with Gronk.

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<v Speaker 4>Kate said he didn't win, so Gronk might be pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised. He seems like the guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>just randomly good at everything.

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<v Speaker 5>In a way, kid wants to be like Gronk in

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<v Speaker 5>that like him and a couple guys like George Kittle,

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<v Speaker 5>he wants to be that true why two way every

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<v Speaker 5>down tight end that you trust him in the running

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<v Speaker 5>game to block to seel loft that defensive end on

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<v Speaker 5>the strong side, and you trust him to beat the

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<v Speaker 5>safety going down the seams and that's what he wants

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<v Speaker 5>to be and honestly, we saw a lot of that

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<v Speaker 5>in his rookie season. Nobody's putting him in the group

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<v Speaker 5>of George Kittle and Travis Kelcey and Gronk right now,

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<v Speaker 5>But in terms of filling a role where you could

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<v Speaker 5>be on the field for eighty percent of snaps like

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<v Speaker 5>Gronk was, he's almost there already.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other thing about this is that.

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<v Speaker 5>He's probably going to get more opportunities in twelve personnel,

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<v Speaker 5>which is two tight end sets, and they drafted Pain

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<v Speaker 5>Durham probably in order to have more options for that,

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<v Speaker 5>because if you look at this day, we have the

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<v Speaker 5>Seahawks former Seahawks coach as our offensive coordinator now, Dave Canalis,

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<v Speaker 5>and last year the Seahawks ran twelve personnel on twenty

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<v Speaker 5>nine point five percent of their snaps, which is third

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<v Speaker 5>most in the league. And you see the difference between

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<v Speaker 5>that and what the Buccaneers did and what the NFL

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<v Speaker 5>average did is so I think you're going to see

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<v Speaker 5>more of that, and that's just as Kate himself said,

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<v Speaker 5>that's just more opportunities for.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, okay, and I love when this happens. We have

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<v Speaker 2>breaking breaking news. But our one of our producers just

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<v Speaker 2>handed this. It's I mean breaking news is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a generous term. But in the off season we

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<v Speaker 2>can be generous is what we consider breaking news. We

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<v Speaker 2>officially have the times for our preseason games and days,

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<v Speaker 2>so if anybody was planning on making a trip to

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<v Speaker 2>one of those booking tickets, we finally have because they

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<v Speaker 2>always released the regular season schedule, and we know who

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<v Speaker 2>we're playing in the preseason, but we don't ever really

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<v Speaker 2>know when all of that stuff. So we now know

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<v Speaker 2>that we were playing these Steelers August eleventh at seven

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<v Speaker 2>pm at home.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I don't have a calendar in front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>The next it doesn't say the day, just a good

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<v Speaker 2>dated okay. So then we have the New York Jets

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<v Speaker 2>on the road August nineteenth at seven thirty, So if

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<v Speaker 2>you said the eleventh, you thought was a Friday, so

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<v Speaker 2>that would make the nineteenth Saturday. And then at home

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<v Speaker 2>again against the Baltimore Ravens for the third preseason game

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<v Speaker 2>at seven o'clock August twenty sixth. So there are your

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<v Speaker 2>preseason times, dates, schedule, all of that. So hopefully we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be able to see a lot of you out there

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<v Speaker 2>at those games. I wanted to go ahead and give

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<v Speaker 2>people another chance at the trivia question in case people

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<v Speaker 2>tuned in a little late.

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<v Speaker 5>So hit us with that, all right, repeating the trivia

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<v Speaker 5>question from earlier, because we're talking about Kate Atton a

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<v Speaker 5>lot today. Caate Otten's forty two receptions in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 5>two were the second most in Buccaneer's history by a

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<v Speaker 5>tight end in his rookie season. Who holds the team

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<v Speaker 5>record for most receptions by a rookie tight end.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it, okay, So I know that we are

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<v Speaker 2>Also we talked about we're in OTAs we're in was

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<v Speaker 2>also called phase three of the off season programs. So

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<v Speaker 2>take people through a little bit about what that means

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<v Speaker 2>and where we're at in the off season schedule as

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<v Speaker 2>they progress through to more real football.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you mentioned it earlier. It's more like a real practice.

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<v Speaker 5>Now they're allowed to do offense versus defense. They weren't

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<v Speaker 5>allowed to do that before. In the first phase is

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<v Speaker 5>just basically working out and classroom stuff. And second phase

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<v Speaker 5>who could do individual drills and things like that, But

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<v Speaker 5>now they can have what looks like a recognizable football practice,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no contact, no pads, so you don't get that

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<v Speaker 5>until training camp. But you do have receivers running against

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<v Speaker 5>cornerbacks and so on quarterbacks trying to complete passes to

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<v Speaker 5>guys that are actually being covered, and that's what you

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<v Speaker 5>have in OTAs, and you get a total of ten OTAs.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's the schedule, which we've already started, so we're at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of that first line there, the first three OTAs,

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<v Speaker 5>and then next week they'll be three more.

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<v Speaker 4>The week after that they'll be four more. All those

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<v Speaker 4>are voluntary.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I counted, and I believe we had eighty of

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<v Speaker 5>the ninety players on the right here. A couple of

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<v Speaker 5>them are a little banged up and warn't playing, but

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<v Speaker 5>they were here on Tuesday when we started, so we've

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<v Speaker 5>had very good turnoff for that. But they are voluntary.

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<v Speaker 5>Some guys choose to pursue their own regimens away from

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<v Speaker 5>the team, and that's totally fine. And then on June

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<v Speaker 5>thirteenth through fifteen is the three day mini camp, which

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<v Speaker 5>actually is mandatory for all players, including veterans.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what's left. And then after that it's the

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<v Speaker 4>big break before training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, also we I know had some rule changes

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<v Speaker 2>voted on this last week, So what if any of

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<v Speaker 2>those are going to pertain to the average fan watching Again, Well, the.

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<v Speaker 5>Two big ones are they brought back the inactive third

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<v Speaker 5>quarterback rule, which was it's not exactly the same as

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<v Speaker 5>the previous rule, but it's very close, which was in

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<v Speaker 5>effect from ninety one through twenty ten. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you get it used to be forty six, so you

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<v Speaker 5>get forty eight active players, and you have to name

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<v Speaker 5>five to seven inactives depending on how many you have

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<v Speaker 5>on your roster, you know, in game day elevations and

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<v Speaker 5>things like that. Now you can still do that, but

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<v Speaker 5>one of your inactive players can be a quarterback that

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<v Speaker 5>you designate as your third quarterback, and if your first

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<v Speaker 5>two guys are out of the game due to injury

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<v Speaker 5>or ejection, then that guy can come in and play.

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<v Speaker 4>And even though he was labeled inactive to start the.

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<v Speaker 5>Game under the old rule, once he came in, if

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<v Speaker 5>it was in the first three quarters, the first two

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<v Speaker 5>guys were then ineligible to come back into the game.

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<v Speaker 5>But now if an injured quarterback goes out and that

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<v Speaker 5>third quarterback is activated, if he is then ruled that

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<v Speaker 5>he can come.

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<v Speaker 4>Back into the game. He can come back into the game. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>slight difference.

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<v Speaker 5>So, and then the other one is the new kickoff

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<v Speaker 5>touchback rule, which if you've watched on college football you've

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<v Speaker 5>seen a lot of it. You can fair catch the

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<v Speaker 5>ball anywhere on the field behind your own twenty five

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<v Speaker 5>yard line, and if you do and you fair catch it,

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<v Speaker 5>the ball's placed at the twenty five So it's just

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<v Speaker 5>more of an effort really, Honestly, all of these changes

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<v Speaker 5>to the kickoff rule in recent years have been to

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<v Speaker 5>pretty much make fewer of them because it has been

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<v Speaker 5>deemed the most dangerous playing the game, and it's about

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<v Speaker 5>player safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm slowly wish. We are always a big fans of

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so we're closing out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us our answer to our trivia question.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, are we gonna put it on the screen? I

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<v Speaker 5>can do it for remember, Oh, there it is. The

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<v Speaker 5>answer is Tim Wright, who had fifty four catches in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty thirteen. And Tim Wright was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 5>an interesting story in that, you know, Greg Shannon was

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<v Speaker 5>the head coach then from Rutgers, and he was one

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<v Speaker 5>of his.

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<v Speaker 4>Players of Rutgers.

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<v Speaker 5>He was actually a big wide receiver at Rutgers, but

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<v Speaker 5>the Bucks brought him in and converted him to tight

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<v Speaker 5>end and he had a big season catching passes in

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<v Speaker 5>his rookie season. The other interesting thing about Tim Wright

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<v Speaker 5>is he's a rare player that the Bucaneers have actually

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<v Speaker 5>traded away twice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible, such an interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a little too much of a story to tell,

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<v Speaker 4>but the Bucks actually traded him twice twice.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's going to do it for us on this

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<v Speaker 2>edition of Bucks Insider Live. Thanks for being with us.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you next week.