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Speaker 3: Right into it. Cold open, Yeah, cold open, all right,

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Speaker 3: Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here at Jillette Stadium.

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Speaker 3: It's Paul and myself. We'll be joined later by Deuce

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Speaker 3: and Evan, who'll be back from the locker room. And

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Speaker 3: we have a special surprise when oh we do, when

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Speaker 3: Deuce gets back from the locker room.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 6: I am.

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Speaker 4: I am unawares myself. We did have there's some activity

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Speaker 4: around the building today and we're getting into as we

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Speaker 4: like to say, it's turned the page day. It's onto

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Speaker 4: the opponent. We're onto Jacksonville, and in the Patriots case,

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Speaker 4: it's on to London because that's where we're headed. So

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Speaker 4: that's where a lot of the focus was today with

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Speaker 4: Gered Mayo, and then we heard from Hunter, Henry Dietrich

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Speaker 4: Wise and a Drake may I didn't get a chance

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Speaker 4: to listen to may because I wanted to be here

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Speaker 4: at the start of the show, but a lot of

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Speaker 4: London flavor in the questions and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: I was today, what do you have to say?

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Speaker 4: So some interesting stuff from the coach. You know, this

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Speaker 4: is back to you know, sort of the differences with

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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick and and Girod Mayo, the transparency a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So there was some focus on the discipline, the lack

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Speaker 4: of discipline, the penalties, the repeat defenders and whatnot. And

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Speaker 4: Girard pretty adamantly and sternly said, yeah, no, there's going

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Speaker 4: to be changes this week. Didn't say what they were,

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Speaker 4: didn't say what they're going to be, but the inference was,

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Speaker 4: without question, there will be changes. He was asked, all defense,

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Speaker 4: starting lineup, in the starting lineup, I think we're talking

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Speaker 4: about a lot of things, but offensive line. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean you're almost assured they're going to get your what

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Speaker 4: is this game the seventh game, your seventh line combination,

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Speaker 4: you know, in this game. And he was asked about

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Speaker 4: some of those penalties, so he kind of hinted at

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Speaker 4: maybe changes in the offensive line. I think those are

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Speaker 4: coming anyway, because of necessities are expected. But yeah, I

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Speaker 4: would think that you might see some.

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Speaker 3: Talking about discipline and mistakes, and then he says there's

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Speaker 3: going to be changes. My thought immediately goes to the defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. See, because I think it's more than just about penalties.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you, Fred, I think you know when

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Speaker 4: you're listening to Devon Gotchaw, now like three weeks in

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Speaker 4: a row, talk about lack of focus, lack of discipline,

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Speaker 4: lack of doing your job. You know you're doing you

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Speaker 4: know you're not being where you're supposed to be. And

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Speaker 4: there was a lot of focus on three bad plays,

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Speaker 4: the three big plays in the run game, and they were.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of other bad players too that

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Speaker 4: are getting glossed over, but the big plays aren't really unexcited.

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Speaker 4: You can't allow fifty plus yard runs. They allowed two

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Speaker 4: fifty plus yard runs. That's like college stuff, right, So

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. I wouldn't be surprised to see

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Speaker 4: some changes in the front seven.

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Speaker 3: If you were de Marcus Covington or Gerond Male, what

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Speaker 4: So I'll tell you a guy who is really as

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Speaker 4: under the radar as probably any member of that roster

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Speaker 4: is Jacquelin Roy. I don't know a whole lot about him,

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Speaker 4: But every time he's on the field the last two weeks,

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Speaker 3: But he's making a sack or pressure or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Does he going a defensive tackle for Keon White? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, I if this is like a discipline thing

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Speaker 4: a demotion quote unquote as it is. We got to

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Speaker 4: on the ground. What about some changes in that front?

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Speaker 3: You know, what about the use of Marty Mapoo.

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Speaker 4: Like So, I don't know what else they can do

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Speaker 4: the idea of an athletic linebacker, but not necessarily on

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Speaker 4: I think he hit Mixing in the backfield, like you know,

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Speaker 4: the play didn't result in much. Mapoo made the play,

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Speaker 4: that ended up hurting I think. I I mean from Afar,

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Speaker 4: I called it a stinger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I remember that play.

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Speaker 4: It was a good play by Mapo.

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Speaker 3: I knew he got hurt on it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as soon as he hit he kind of recoiled.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I think any of that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But the problem is not a lot of like Ben's

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Speaker 4: He had mentioned, you know, we get a penalty on

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Speaker 4: talking about Taki taki on the kickoff, I would assume.

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Speaker 4: So there's been a lot of you know, unfocused bad football.

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Speaker 4: So I think anything's on the table.

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Speaker 3: You think the why receiver group will remain the same

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Speaker 3: where you have, Well, maybe Polk is a guy.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if Burn. I wonder if Bourne gets more

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Speaker 3: Maybe the top three is now pop Born and Booty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean Hooper and Henry are pretty much.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it'll be I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 3: We don't know Stevenson's status right.

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Speaker 4: Not yet. No, So I don't think anybody asked them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, sometimes it's hard to hear the questions from

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Speaker 4: but I don't always know who he's talking about. A

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Speaker 4: lot to think about, No, But I just I thought

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Speaker 4: that was interesting off the top that Garad said, no,

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Speaker 4: there's going to be changes this week.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they have to look at this game

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Speaker 3: as you know, it's not like they should win it,

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Speaker 3: but it's win a.

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Speaker 4: Bawl absolutely, yeah, yeah, and both teams are one and five.

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Speaker 4: Both teams should be looking at this game as listen,

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Speaker 4: this is an opportunity for us to get in the

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Speaker 4: win column. Yeah, you know, we got to put our

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Speaker 4: best put forward. We all know about the problems that

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville's had on defense. Patriots have had a hard time

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Speaker 4: consistently generating offense. Who wins that battle?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 4: Does the defense play better than it has? Does the

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Speaker 4: Patriots offense play better than it has. Whichever one of

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Speaker 4: those things happens will probably be the winner.

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Speaker 3: Okay. And then for coaching, like some people will say, oh,

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Speaker 3: Ben mcadows should be given a chance to call plays,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they're anywhere near something like that.

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Speaker 4: Because I couldn't tell you.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, I like, I don't like. Again, I always say

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Speaker 3: looks bad, you know, and that could be execution. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't have any problem with the play calling.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to like almost and I said this yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I almost never have a problem specifically with the play

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Speaker 4: I don't love. And I didn't love it before I

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Speaker 4: I think Mike re said Hunter Henry about you know,

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Speaker 4: that something that you can just you know, like you

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Speaker 4: look and you say this is not a good matchup?

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Speaker 4: Can I chip them here? Should I stay in and chip?

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Speaker 4: And you know, Henry rightly said, you know, you need

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Speaker 4: think that Van Pelt some of those criticisms that Greg

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Speaker 4: think when you're dealing with constant problems protecting, you need

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Speaker 4: to do something different to help. And I don't think

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Speaker 4: they've done enough of that well, I think, But that's

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Speaker 4: not play calling, you know what I mean, that's not

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Speaker 3: Right, right, that's right, that's strategy, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: where the head coach needs to help out too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know we had was it Mark in

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Speaker 4: Connecticut yesterday? Who wants the big guy off the practice squad?

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Speaker 4: Like to Mark and I, you know, I just want

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Speaker 4: all suggestions with with these guys. But I say, if

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Speaker 4: No, that was like neither does Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't possibly Most teams have a flagship station, and

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Speaker 4: you were ready for eleven personnel and throwing outside the numbers.

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00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 4: So you guessed wrong, and that is what I I

435
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 4: interpret We weren't prepared. That's what I interpret that as.

436
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 4: Our game plan wasn't best suited for what we saw.

437
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 3: Ye now maybe quickly.

438
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 4: Maybe, And of course, you know and crack media, no

439
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 4: one asked to follow up to that answer, Like, are

440
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 4: you saying that you don't feel like you have good

441
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 4: game plans? Because my guess is would have walked that back.

442
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, you know what I mean, even the chance, right, So,

443
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 3: but like, how many times did you hear from a

444
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 3: player we need to be better prepared?

445
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 4: No, not very often, and how many times the opposite? Well,

446
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 4: you know, we felt like we had a you know,

447
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 4: a really good week of practice, really strong game plan.

448
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 4: If you hear that.

449
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 3: All the time. You just didn't execute.

450
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 4: So like again Cincinnati and the opener, they come out

451
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 4: three and out. Bang, the Patriots are running the foot

452
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 4: ball effectively on offense. I know they didn't score a

453
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 4: lot of points, but they did run the ball really well.

454
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 4: So you're like, we were prepared today. We had a

455
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 4: good game plan against what we saw and it worked,

456
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 4: you know, and we haven't seen enough of that since.

457
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 3: Tough stuff.

458
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean it is You're right, there's an opportunity.

459
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 4: It's a winnable game. I didn't think Sunday was winnable

460
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 4: against Houston, you know, regardless of May's debut. I just

461
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 4: thought Houston was that wet match that much better talent wise,

462
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 4: that I didn't really anticipate that game being overly competitive.

463
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 4: I'd be surprised that this game turns out the same way. Yeah.

464
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Speaker 3: I really think that being overseas for two weeks can

465
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 3: wear on guys. I think, I know a lot of

466
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 3: people say that they'll have an advantage because they didn't

467
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 3: have to travel.

468
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 4: If they want to play, they will have an advantage.

469
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if they want to play, to your point, right,

470
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 4: they might just be sick of it and want to

471
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 4: go home.

472
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: I think so they're looking at a valid home.

473
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: It's a valid excuse, valid line of thought. I would

474
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: rather be there than have to fly six or whatever

475
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: seven hours. Yeah, you know, like we made such a

476
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 4: big deal of Seattle in week two. Seattle's got to

477
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 4: come all the way. It's a ten o'clock you know.

478
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 4: Like if it's a big deal for West Coast teams

479
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 4: coming to the East Coast, it's gotta be a big

480
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 4: big deal to go to London when the other team's

481
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 4: already there.

482
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Yeah, it's you know, a three hour difference

483
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: is different than a five hour difference that those two hours, but.

484
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 4: It's it's worse.

485
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: But but here, like when you go to Seattle, you

486
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: leave right and either way if I know, if they're

487
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 3: coming here, the clock goes ahead, but you get in

488
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 3: at a reasonable hour and it's not a red eye.

489
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: You're not taking a red eye. That's what I think

490
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 3: sucks about going to Europe, is you take that red eye.

491
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Speaker 4: So do you think they shouldn't have taken a red eye?

492
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. They practice, So that's the problem.

493
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: That's the trade off. If you go during the day.

494
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: Then you lose the day of practice. So you know,

495
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: all the teams would rather have that day of practice.

496
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: Take the reddite. But then you get in We're going

497
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 3: to get to the hotel at nine in the morning

498
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: and then you're right right into the day. So you

499
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: better sleep on that plane, right.

500
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Speaker 4: So that's what they're looking for is to make it

501
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 4: a regular day on Friday. Yeah, get your work in.

502
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 4: When you're done with your work, now you sleep, right.

503
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 3: You know, Now you're regular, right, you know, Like you say, well,

504
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: why don't they leave, you know, Tuesday, Thursday morning. Well, then,

505
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 3: like I said, you lose that day of practice on Thursday.

506
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: You're right, So you can't win. You just got to

507
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: make sure that the guys sleep.

508
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 4: You're sick of being in Europe for two weeks. Theory

509
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 4: is arguably the key to the game, you think, So, yeah,

510
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 4: Like if if I think that, I think being in

511
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 4: a hotel, I think there's a chance that Jacksonville is

512
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 4: going to have no interest in this game. I think

513
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 4: they hate their coach. There's still time to steal Tom

514
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 4: Jackson's old phrase way back when. I think that they're

515
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: kind of tired of Doug Peterson and they look like

516
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 4: a very disjointed team. That's not that. You know, there's

517
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 4: a lot of teams that Patriots have had over the

518
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 4: years where you know the sum was greater than the total.

519
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: You know that the total was greater than the some

520
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 4: of the parts. That's the phrase, right, it's the opposite.

521
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 4: I think they have great parts, but they don't come

522
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 4: together as a as a strong total like the Jets.

523
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: They're not as talented as the Jets. Then, I mean, like,

524
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 4: I think Jacksonville's better than one and five, but they're not.

525
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 4: They're not as talented as the Jets. The Jets are

526
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: really being undone by by two main factors, and one

527
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: of them is really really bad coaching and really really

528
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 4: cranky quarterback. Like I think that's permeating the entire organization.

529
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: Like he's such an unlikable guy when people look at

530
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 4: it and say, well, Peyton Manning lifted Denver when he

531
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 4: got there, Tom Brady lifted Tampa when he got there.

532
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: Why isn't Aaron Rodgers. That's my biggest reason why I

533
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 4: think he can still play. I saw enough of the

534
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 4: game against the Patriots on the Thursday night, and I

535
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: watched the game Monday. He could still throw, he can

536
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: still do things physically. He's not what he once was,

537
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 4: but he's good enough. You know. He certainly has a

538
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: lot more left right now than Peyton Manning did when

539
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 4: he won a Super Bowl. Oh yeah, noodle arm, you know.

540
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 4: But it's everything else that he lacks, and he doesn't

541
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 4: have what Peyton man He doesn't have what Peyton Manning

542
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: and Tom Brady had, and that to me is the

543
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: biggest thing. Like, they have a lot of talent, the Jets,

544
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 4: but my guess is they're going to end up finishing

545
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: like nine and eight.

546
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: Speaking of Tom Brady, what do you think about him

547
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: being officially approved as an owner of the Raider minority owner?

548
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really. This is not really something

549
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 4: that I have a tremendous amount of interest in, you know,

550
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 4: just in general. But I will say I had no

551
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: idea about the Richard Seymour part of this. Did that

552
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 4: sneak on you?

553
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: Yes? I had no id You didn't get interested.

554
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: I just figured it was one of those deals that

555
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: everybody knew about me. But evidently Seymour's one of these minority.

556
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 3: Part Does he have his own stake or is he

557
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: part of Brady's team.

558
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: It's a great question. Yeah, I don't know.

559
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 3: Because I heard like I like, I was saying, you know,

560
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: how does Seymour get all this money? And somebody said, no,

561
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: these guys are getting back by these financial guys.

562
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 4: So they're the front. Yeah, they're the face. It's like

563
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: when didn't the Dolphins do that one year with Stephen Ross.

564
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 4: They had a bunch like j Low, They had a

565
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: bunch of like.

566
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: High they did, and I don't know how that.

567
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 4: Was just kind of like faces of the money, right,

568
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: I mean obviously.

569
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: And so these equity groups are buying a piece of

570
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 3: the team, which I'm not sure is going to end

571
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: up well, because if you're buying a piece of the

572
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: team at market value, you want to return on your investment.

573
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: And the only way you get a return on that investment, obviously,

574
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: is if the value of the team goes up and

575
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: then you go then you want to sell it to

576
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: get your return. So, like all this churning of ownerships

577
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 3: and and all this in the you know, I know

578
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: they've always been a there's been pressure to make more

579
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: money in the NFL, But now if they get into

580
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: this whole game with the equity firms, the pressure to

581
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: just make more money year after year after year. I

582
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 3: think maybe a negative for for the game.

583
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, the game. That's interesting. You know a lot more

584
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: about this, I don't know anything.

585
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, surmising.

586
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: I just look at it, you know, from you know,

587
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: a fan perspective, Like with all of those restrictions that

588
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: would now be officially placed on Brady as a broadcaster,

589
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 4: I don't see how he can do the job. I

590
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 4: don't see how he continue to be a broadcaster. To me,

591
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 4: it's such a conflict of interest. Yeah, like I think

592
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 4: he should star now. It might be a perfect out

593
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 4: for him, because I don't think he's very good at it.

594
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people have said he's he's improving.

595
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 4: I haven't really seen it, and I don't watch as

596
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: much as the regular fans do. But with the clips

597
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 4: that I've heard, he just is very benign, very basic.

598
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: He says what virtually any of us could do. Now

599
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 4: they watched the replay, Oh that was a good play

600
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: by that guy. You know, yeah, I saw that too,

601
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 4: But why did it happen? I wonder if it's an

602
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: easy out for him, like I'm gonna not fulfill my

603
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 4: contract with Fox because I have this conflict of interest

604
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 4: with my minority ownership. I mean, what do you think

605
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: you think he'll try to do both?

606
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: I do it for a while, I do. I think

607
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: he's going to try to do both.

608
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean obviously he's got to finish out this year. Yeah,

609
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: but I wouldn't be surprised if we're hearing something you

610
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: know in March that you know, Tom Brady not going

611
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 4: to be an announcer.

612
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: Of next year. But like again, like you, you have

613
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: made an investment, or the people behind you have made

614
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: an investment, so you have a fiduciary responsibility to that investment,

615
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: and that is hoping that the Raiders are as good

616
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: as they can be to raise the value of the team.

617
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: So how can you honestly give assessments of all these

618
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: other teams? Conflict of interest? Yeah, like, because everything affects everything.

619
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: So like a team that may not be in the Raiders' division,

620
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: but they're in the AFC. And let's say the Raiders

621
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: were contenders, which they're not, but let's say they were

622
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: contending for a playoff spot. You could be broadcasting a

623
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: game that has you know, an impact on that playoff spot,

624
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: even if it's not the Raiders in the game.

625
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: You don't to talk about like the conflict stuff. You know.

626
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: On Saturdays, you know they do on ESPN, they do

627
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: you know, the College Game Day, right every Saturday morning

628
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: and they pick a bunch of games and it's, uh,

629
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: you know the whole panel. Desmond Howard McAfee's on that. Now,

630
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 4: Kirk Herbstreet, well, Herbstreet does one of the games. He

631
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: always like it's kind of like a little shtick they have.

632
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: He's there a game day in the morning, and then

633
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 4: he gets on a plane and he goes wherever the

634
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: game is that he's covering, and when they make the picks,

635
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 4: he doesn't make a pick on the game he's he's doing.

636
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: He's broadcasting, right, Well, I think you should do that.

637
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: That's why, right, because you don't want to be broadcasting

638
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 4: a game where it appears that you have right, well

639
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 4: we're doing Texas. O call Homer and you just picked

640
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: Texas and now you're announcing the game and it's all

641
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: pro Texas, right. You know, somebody's hearing that and they're like, well,

642
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: you know it's silly as well.

643
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: Football Joe Buck and Aikman don't pick the game right.

644
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 4: And it's kind of silly because what impact is that, Like, okay,

645
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: so yeah, I picked it.

646
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: Now I'm talking what at least the illusion of neutrality

647
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: from the announcers.

648
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Speaker 4: I understand, Like I get it, I get why they

649
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Speaker 4: do it. I just think it's kind of you know,

650
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Speaker 4: it's kind of silly. But like if they're not going

651
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Speaker 4: to do something as benign is make a pick on

652
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Speaker 4: a game, your things are much more, much more serious, Like.

653
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Speaker 3: This is hundreds of millions of dollars we're talking about.

654
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: Think about it. They're like, okay, so let's just say.

655
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Speaker 4: You know, Tom Brady, he is he's a pretty respected

656
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: voice now, you know, like this is the most successful

657
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: quarterback in the history of the NFL, and he's broadcasting games.

658
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Speaker 4: If I'm some owner or some GM of another team

659
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Speaker 4: and I hear Tom Brady talking about Fred kirsch Is,

660
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Speaker 4: he's a really gifted linebacker. He could he could do

661
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Speaker 4: a lot of different things. Well, is he saying that

662
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Speaker 4: because he thinks that or because he wants him on.

663
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Speaker 3: His team or tampering or is.

664
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Speaker 6: It like.

665
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Speaker 4: I'll do the opposite. I'm going to say this. You know,

666
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Speaker 4: Fred kursh is really good, But I'm going to downplay him.

667
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Speaker 4: He's he's entering a contract. I wouldn't pay him, you know,

668
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Speaker 4: I know he's going to be looking for a lot

669
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Speaker 4: of money. I wouldn't pay him the money when in reality,

670
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Speaker 4: he wants the guy to hit the market so the

671
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Speaker 4: Raiders can sign them, and they know like that, and

672
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Speaker 4: these things could happen.

673
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Speaker 3: And then you can say, well, he should just avoid

674
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Speaker 3: those conversations. Well then he's limited. Right, then you've cut

675
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Speaker 3: off his you know what, in his job.

676
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Speaker 4: Right, you should be able to freely discuss personnel up

677
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Speaker 4: and down the wrong.

678
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Speaker 3: Don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like

679
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Speaker 3: it for so many reasons. Those and plus the fact

680
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Speaker 3: if he's going to be a minority of owner, if

681
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Speaker 3: any team, it should be the Patriots. So I don't

682
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Speaker 3: like it. I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fair, all right. My guess is we're not going

684
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Speaker 4: to have a lot of listeners that like it either.

685
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Speaker 3: Let's go to the TPX phone lines. While we wait

686
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Speaker 3: for Evan and Deuce to come back from the locker room,

687
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Speaker 3: we'll go to Eric in New Jersey. First.

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Speaker 7: What's up, Eric, Hey, prey, hey, Paul, I got a

689
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Speaker 7: suggestion when a little great what you said with this

690
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Speaker 7: past post game, but pipe just to put my GM had.

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Speaker 8: Off, I'm Elliott wolf up just looking here at the landscape.

692
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Speaker 8: I think we got something here with Drake. May I

693
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Speaker 8: really be pushing out at the Seahawks, are you know,

694
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Speaker 8: three and three and kind of going through it and

695
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Speaker 8: deep Kate teams little disgruntled. I would definitely be looking at,

696
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Speaker 8: you know, trying to get a third off this year

697
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Speaker 8: and I mean coming drafting, maybe a third to next year.

698
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Speaker 8: And I think it just really would open up the

699
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Speaker 8: passing game and then you know, we'll kind of take

700
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Speaker 8: away just that, you know, taking away to Mario Douglas.

701
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Speaker 8: Think that just enhances everybody from the offensive perspective and

702
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Speaker 8: just kind of get in jettison that that that learning process,

703
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Speaker 8: especially with a quarterback that does have some you know,

704
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Speaker 8: accuracy issues, just a bigger catch radius. If that's a possible,

705
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Speaker 8: I think he really should be put in there. But

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Speaker 8: one of the things that you said this past postgame

707
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Speaker 8: that I took you know, you know, you said that

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Speaker 8: you know you owe it to the players on the

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Speaker 8: roster to win games.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 8: I mean, let's just be honest A bunch of the

712
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Speaker 8: guys that we got here, I mean K. J. Osborne

713
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Speaker 8: is impart of the plan. And then the guys that

714
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Speaker 8: we drafted, they're here for the long haul. And the

715
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Speaker 8: free agents that you signed here for the long haul.

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Speaker 8: If they you know, I believe you know that they

717
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Speaker 8: had a realistic expectation that this teams are rebuilding team

718
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Speaker 8: and it's going to take that. You know, it's just

719
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Speaker 8: not a one year process. So you know, the plan is,

720
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Speaker 8: you know, the plan should be and their expectations should

721
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Speaker 8: be moving forward is to you know, we're gonna take

722
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Speaker 8: our lumps there, but you know, the plan is to grow.

723
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Speaker 8: You know, these guys, the journeymans that they have, I mean,

724
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Speaker 8: it's really you're you're here.

725
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Speaker 7: You're here just you're just.

726
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Speaker 8: A contractor essentially, and I think they understood that they're

727
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Speaker 8: just here trying to reset their value. Put the good tape,

728
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Speaker 8: and you know, whatever the cards may be. But you know,

729
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Speaker 8: I think if you owe it to the program, you owe.

730
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Speaker 9: It to the guys.

731
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Speaker 8: And again obviously not putting just drinks may ahead of

732
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Speaker 8: you know, everybody else and the rest of the team,

733
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Speaker 8: but you know, this is a passing league, This is

734
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Speaker 8: a quarterback heavy driven league.

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Speaker 10: We have to get that part.

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Speaker 8: We have to get that part figured out as well.

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Speaker 8: And then just the one suggestion that I would say,

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Speaker 8: you know, I'm with Paulie here. Let's you know, the

739
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Speaker 8: newsletter is cool, but you know, can we get maybe

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Speaker 8: you know two, you know, half season and at the

741
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Speaker 8: end of the season PMW paper that out there. I

742
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Speaker 8: think that'd be great and I take it off the

743
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Speaker 8: way back.

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Speaker 4: That's not happening.

745
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Speaker 3: Thanks, Eric, I just got to check the speaker. I'm

746
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Speaker 3: want to move it all right.

747
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Speaker 4: So there was a lot. Eric had a lot there.

748
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Speaker 4: I remember when we talked about like it wasn't like

749
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Speaker 4: you have a responsibility to win. You have a responsibility

750
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Speaker 4: to do the best you can to put teams to

751
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Speaker 4: put the team in position to win. We all understand

752
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 4: in as Geradas said many times, they're going to take

753
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Speaker 4: some lumps.

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Speaker 3: The players understand that. But I think where this issue

755
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: has come up it's you know, Drake may or Jacoby Brissett,

756
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Speaker 3: but they expect the best players to play.

757
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Speaker 4: Right and they are like, who's not like you could

758
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Speaker 4: make an argument and I think Mike did this perfect

759
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Speaker 4: that Mike just comes in from the locker room. But

760
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Speaker 4: you could make an argument that maybe a couple of

761
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Speaker 4: the young guys like Jayvon Baker jahem Bell I think

762
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Speaker 4: is one that Mike has talked about. Okay, we haven't

763
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Speaker 4: seen anything from them yet, but it's to Mario Douglas

764
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: year two, it's Jalen Polk year one, like okay, so

765
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Speaker 4: you want a different it's Kasehan Boody year two. Those

766
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Speaker 4: are those are the guys getting a lot of snaps

767
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Speaker 4: as receiver. kJ Osborne didn't get any snaps last he

768
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Speaker 4: was inactive of the week before. They're making that transition

769
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Speaker 4: to say, I think.

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Speaker 3: The only discussion this came up was with Jacoby and Drake.

771
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Speaker 3: But right, but Deuce is here and he's back from

772
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Speaker 3: the locker book.

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Speaker 8: Who's back from the locker room?

774
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Speaker 11: What was the mood where the player's friendly to that

775
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 11: none of them look.

776
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Speaker 2: Like Devik, Henry Hay, Mike, what was it like in

777
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Speaker 2: the locker room?

778
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Speaker 12: Halke?

779
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 3: What was it like in the locker rooms?

780
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Speaker 12: That's the first time I heard that.

781
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Speaker 4: It was yo, that was my first. I just did

782
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Speaker 4: the Billy Crystal White Man over by.

783
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Speaker 12: It was nice. It wasn't too much. You know, sometimes

784
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 12: Evan's like practiced on a little too much for me.

785
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 12: You know, it's Evan of it all. But I'm just joking.

786
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 12: But actually I didn't even go into the locker room today.

787
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Speaker 12: I was just in the video interview.

788
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: Yes, no, that is the video. So you didn't see

789
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Speaker 4: any Derek Henley Henry like anatomy.

790
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Speaker 12: No, No, I know, And I would never. I would never. God,

791
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Speaker 12: Paul good, were you guys just uh you were speaking

792
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 12: about talking about there were gonna be some changes.

793
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: Is that what you were talking about?

794
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 12: We talked about that.

795
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Speaker 4: I want to get your take on that a little bit.

796
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Speaker 4: But no, we just got a call about sort of

797
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: playing young guys over Vett and I think that they

798
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Speaker 4: I think they've done that.

799
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Speaker 12: I know. That's well, that's what the defense I was thinking.

800
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Speaker 12: I'm like, you don't really have anywhere to go. There's

801
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 12: nobody like waiting.

802
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: Let's get back. Let's get back to the girod comment

803
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 4: about there will be definitive changes, right, So we said,

804
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: you know, like, obviously there's gonna be changes in the

805
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 4: offensive line because it almost has to be the seventh

806
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 4: combination just by definition, right right, Because I don't think

807
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: Vederian we'll see when everything comes from practice. But Vederian

808
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: low Like, I can't imagine they're going to start Vederian Lowe,

809
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan, Ben Brown, mica Oh Wentho, and Trey Jacobs.

810
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 4: I can't imagine that's the group that started last game.

811
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Speaker 4: I can't imagine all five of those guys are healthy

812
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: enough to start this game. So I think you're going

813
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 4: to get the fifth the seventh combination. But beyond that, Mike,

814
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: what do you think he might have been alluding to.

815
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Speaker 12: That's a great question, Paul, And that's where my brain

816
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 12: was going when I when he said that, And I'm

817
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 12: just I'm trying to think, like, who are you pulling out?

818
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 12: Who are you putting in? Like you mentioned Jaane Bell,

819
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 12: but like you're not pulling Hunter Henry out. I mean

820
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 12: maybe maybe you could say Austin Hoover fumbled it, but

821
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 12: I think that's an overreaction to that.

822
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Speaker 4: So I think defensively, Mike, Fred and I sort of

823
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Speaker 4: focused on the front, Yeah, and the amount of attention

824
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Speaker 4: to lack of discipline and devon Godchaw continuing to call

825
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 4: these guys out for not doing their jobs, and I

826
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 4: wonder does a keyon White lose sometime, does a Daniel

827
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Speaker 4: Aquale lose some time, and maybe maybe Mike we get

828
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: Jaquelin Roy more time. Like, I think the guy has

829
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: been in the game a little bit. I'm not telling

830
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Speaker 4: you this is a budding Chris Jones that we've all

831
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Speaker 4: been sleeping on. But no, he's I mean he's gotten

832
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: spot duty the last two weeks and showing up. I

833
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: think he's shown up in both of those games. I

834
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 4: wonder if they look at him. He's big guy, maybe

835
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: he could give him a little bit more beef upfront

836
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: against the run so they're not allowing one hundred and

837
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Speaker 4: ninety plus a game.

838
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Speaker 12: I'm jealous of this take, Paul. I mean, I think

839
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Speaker 12: that that might be the thing. I mean, you know,

840
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Speaker 12: I don't. I'm not gonna point all the fingers at

841
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 12: Daniel Aqualay, but that's one move that that could potentially

842
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 12: make sense. I think you're right or that Eric Johnson sugges.

843
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: Just to be like completely clear, Fred and I were like, look,

844
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 4: this is not on Keon White, this is not on

845
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: DANIELI quality, this is not on Jeremiah Farm.

846
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 12: Got to shake it up a little bit.

847
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 4: These guys have been asked to do something that I

848
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 4: would assume even the coaches didn't envision for them. Yeah,

849
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: they've been playing a lot more so this isn't on that.

850
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 4: This is by no means, but I'm just talking about discipline.

851
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: It's one thing if you're if you're not big enough

852
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 4: or talented enough to hold up at the point of attack.

853
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 4: It's another thing if you're consistently putting yourself out of

854
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: the play. Yeah, instead of operating the way you're supposed to.

855
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: And it sounds like the latter is happening too often.

856
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, No, that's all really good stuff, Paul. I think

857
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 12: you're you're right. I would say maybe Taki takes some

858
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 12: snaps from Rayquon McMillan. Maybe, you know, we just heard

859
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 12: from Julanie to Vai. Uh in the locker room adjacent

860
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 12: it's the Rev's locker rooms. I guess it's still the

861
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 12: lockerlocker im Jason, but he's still pretty pissed and uh,

862
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 12: you know, pointed again to just consistency. He's like, you know,

863
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 12: we had and I think we'd agree with when we

864
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 12: were watching the game, it was, you know, they had

865
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 12: some snaps where they snuffed out the run and one

866
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 12: won the battle up front, and then.

867
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: The run defense was not as bad as the numbers

868
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: this week.

869
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 12: But but you're not quite gonna go three plays was

870
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 12: the difference in the game.

871
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: Well, no, especially when one of the plays led to

872
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: no points. Yeah, the sixty yard run they missed the

873
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: field goal.

874
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, right now, So I'm not.

875
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 4: Gonna say you give up forty one points because you

876
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: gave up three big plays when half of the big

877
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: you know, like I think two of the three big

878
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 4: plays led to three total points.

879
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I know that's that doesn't necessarily ring true

880
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 12: to me when when why said that today?

881
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, I just may have said it a lot too.

882
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 12: Yeah, I wish the three wish that there was like

883
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 12: an obvious one of like we've ben waiting, you know, like.

884
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 3: If anything, it gets your offense out in the field faster.

885
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 12: And I don't know that's what we kept saying. We're like,

886
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 12: well at these drakes getting more red.

887
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: It's like people were talking about, well, the time of

888
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 4: possession was even, like yeah, because it took the Texans

889
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: a blink to score.

890
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 12: Right, No, I I mean I think that the roy thing.

891
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 3: I hate stats when it comes to football. You have

892
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: to watch the game.

893
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: No, that's why we have to put the stats in

894
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: cond text.

895
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 12: You know, I know you watch the balls and I

896
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 12: mean you remember everything and you're able to put a

897
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 12: lot in context, and I think it's incredibly, incredibly valuable.

898
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 12: But you know, they've just their depth has been completely

899
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 12: crushed and they don't really have like a page to

900
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 12: turn to, whereas if it was last year, maybe you're saying, oh,

901
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 12: we get Marty Mapho back back in there, and maybe

902
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 12: Mapho playing more in you know, my linebacker.

903
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 4: Freds more wondering more of a full time but but replacement.

904
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 12: For you're kind of grasping because you're not going to

905
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 12: bench Gonzales, that's the thing.

906
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: But he says that we can change is like, what

907
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: are the I know, I know the offensive line, which

908
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: we know changes on a weekly basis.

909
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: We're going to write a sternly worded letter.

910
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 12: Seven lines for seven brothers, right, I mean, and you know,

911
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 12: and the receivers are all you want to see those

912
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 12: guys stand there.

913
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: I got that. You like that, No, but I got

914
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: it old musical, right, seven Brides for seven Brothers.

915
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 12: I don't know was that a song that that was

916
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 12: an actual music.

917
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: I'm surprised that you're being just as you are. I'm

918
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: surprised you didn't jump.

919
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: I didn't take you weren't in a production of it

920
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 3: at n eighth grade.

921
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 12: I wasn't good. I was kind of I had enough

922
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 12: credits at Holy Cross to be a music minor, and

923
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 12: I did take American Musical theater.

924
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: I think was one of the classes I learned today,

925
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: well not today, but just in general. And Duce has

926
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: an uncanny knack of impersonating singers. Oh yeah, like he

927
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 4: first of all, he can carry a tune.

928
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 12: Well who did I?

929
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 4: Who did who? Today? He was doing.

930
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 12: I hit those high notes, I got the high rate.

931
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: Like it was very good. I couldn't carry a tune

932
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 4: if I had a handle on it, I.

933
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 12: Told, I told Paul, I was in the Velvet Tones

934
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 12: in seventh grade. It was the district chorus. It was

935
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 12: in Altel and uh, yeah, I just undiscovered talent singing.

936
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 12: You're welcome, Jill, call me, I'll come on, I'll come

937
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 12: down to Nashville. You can you know we could do

938
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 12: do maybe? But uh anyway back to the locker room,

939
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 12: her from you know Douglas again to who still big

940
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 12: smile on his face. He's Jacksonville hometown guys, so he's

941
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 12: excited to do against Jacks.

942
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: Did he do any of that?

943
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 12: No, no, fortunately, But although Tamara, which I should have gotten, Yeah,

944
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 12: she'sn't like Jags wear it. She's got like she's some

945
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 12: kind of like is it a jaguar print a leopard print?

946
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 12: I can't tell what's the difference between a leopard and jaguar.

947
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 12: But yeah, she looked like she was here from from

948
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 12: the Jags report.

949
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 4: She was embarrassed.

950
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 12: She realized it too, were like you look like it

951
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 12: for the Jacks, and she's like, oh my god, I

952
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 12: can't believe it. So maybe even get a picture of.

953
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: Hey, if you're the production crew going into this game,

954
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: is it a CBS game? I forget?

955
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: NFL network?

956
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 3: Oh, NFL network, do you request Mac Jones for your

957
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: production meeting? Oh? Lordy, I wouldn't know.

958
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 4: And unless it's like stories that he's gonna play, yeah,

959
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: and I haven't seen that.

960
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 12: It was a fake account, y, fake account try to

961
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 12: give us.

962
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: I get you.

963
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 12: No.

964
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 4: I was like my wife, No, Max gonna play some day.

965
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 12: I go No, just because you put something on a

966
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 12: graphic doesn't mean it's true, right, but yeah, I mean

967
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 12: he sounds like he's excited. I mean we heard from

968
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 12: Hunter Henry to those guys excited to get overseas. But

969
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 12: I think the bottom line, everybody realizes like they need

970
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 12: to win, and I think they need you know, the

971
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 12: good start was a big part of it. They talked

972
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 12: about starting will in practice say that was another thing

973
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 12: I like from Girods That was interesting to me, where

974
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 12: they said we just start and we kind of have

975
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 12: a competitive period where it's you know, today they're going

976
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 12: to be in the red zone, but just trying to

977
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 12: work on getting right out there and you know, having

978
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 12: some competition. So they all talked about starting fast. What

979
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 12: was tetrich wises, how do you start fast?

980
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: What is it this? I already shared this with what

981
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: is what is the key to starting fast? Be prepared?

982
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 12: Yeah?

983
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: What did you think about that comment? Yeah?

984
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 12: Well, I just I mean I think to me, it's

985
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 12: it's as much preparation, but it's just being ready to play.

986
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 12: And I mean, I don't know if those are exactly

987
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 12: the same thing.

988
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: To me, it's well, when if he was given a chance,

989
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: he would probably walk it back that way. I raised

990
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: my eyebrow, so.

991
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 4: I said you know again, Mike, we're sitting in the

992
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: back because you know, good looking PF you members are

993
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: to be seen and not heard, right, so you and

994
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: I are sitting in the back. That answer comes out

995
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: and not even a sniff of a fallollow up question. Well,

996
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: when you say more prepared, I mean, is that like

997
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: a game plan thing? You guys don't feel like you're

998
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 4: ready to play at the start? The intensity levels, Like.

999
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

1000
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 12: I love when you flex your big J muscle on

1001
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 12: the on the crowd. I think you need to be

1002
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 12: up there like spring.

1003
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 4: I know it's easy, and I know that that opens

1004
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: me up to criticism, and it's valid criticism because I'm

1005
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: allowed to ask questions, and I generally, because I work here,

1006
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: I generally step back and let the Capitol j journalists

1007
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: do their job. Like That's how I've done it for

1008
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 4: a long time now. So it's an easy Well, you know,

1009
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: big tough guy, why don't you that's not a hard

1010
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: that's not a hard follow up question.

1011
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: No, it's just you're looking for clarification.

1012
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: I'm just looking. He just said something. He's a big boy.

1013
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: He knows what he said. What he said, like, he

1014
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 4: just said something. Ask him to clarify it. Just like

1015
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: two weeks ago when Girod said, you know, winning the

1016
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 4: way we did against Cincinnati was not sustainable.

1017
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1018
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 4: Someone asked him a follow up and said, what what

1019
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: did you mean as what is exactly wasn't sustainable? And

1020
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: he clarified, you can't win games scoring sixteen points. We

1021
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: don't didn't generate enough offense.

1022
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1023
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like someone should have asked teachers wise what

1024
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: exactly he meant by that. Yeah.

1025
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 12: Now I'm curious to see what team comes out in London.

1026
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 12: That's for sure. They seem like they're they're hearing everything

1027
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 12: and they understand where they're at. But they got to

1028
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 12: go out. They need they need to play well, especially

1029
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 12: the defense.

1030
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to the tpx heutline. Justine

1031
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: is in North Carolina. What's up, Justine?

1032
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 11: Hie Hi?

1033
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: It's what? Yeah? You get talking to the end to

1034
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: your phone?

1035
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 4: Ye hold it like a pizza.

1036
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's not you're not talking. Keep going, Okay, I.

1037
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 11: Have three things to bring up. I am so so

1038
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 11: happy that finally we got to my taru he I did.

1039
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 11: I think whenever what needs to happen? And I agree

1040
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 11: and when m Gerard's dead, we need to take care

1041
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 11: of him. That's the first thing I thought, because he

1042
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 11: cannot get hit like he was hit, and most of

1043
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 11: the quarterback they're not the team. The line is not

1044
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 11: letting them get hit, you know, they're protecting them at

1045
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 11: all calls. And I think that's probably what he meant

1046
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 11: about making changes. He needs to get somebody up there

1047
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 11: that's gonna protect the quarterback at all time.

1048
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: But Justine, that's going to be easier said than done

1049
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: given the injury situation and then just the overall lack

1050
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 3: of talent on offensive line. I think he meant more

1051
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: just support in terms of defense as well. Keep keep

1052
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: the game competitive so that you know, when we score

1053
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: twenty one points, we don't lose by twenty Yep. You know, yeah,

1054
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: I hear you. But thanks for the call, Tar Heels, go,

1055
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: tar heels. Yep. Joseph New Hampshire, what's up, Joe?

1056
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, I was gonna ask. I know part of

1057
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 13: its reminder Stevenson's not healthy right now, but do you

1058
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 13: think there's a chance that the running game can improve

1059
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 13: this season with Stevenson coming back? Or is the offensive

1060
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 13: line just two injured too.

1061
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: Well, even with the offensive line. I think overall, the

1062
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 3: running game's been decent and obviously.

1063
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 12: If it can be good enough, yeah, it can be

1064
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 12: good enough.

1065
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the run game is the least

1066
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: of the problem. Day they couldn't run the ball.

1067
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 3: No, no, but but he's without But assuming he comes back,

1068
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: running game isn't what we're worried about right now.

1069
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 13: No, right, but pretty much you think the running game

1070
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 13: improving with Stevenson coming back, that'll open up even more

1071
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 13: play action.

1072
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 3: It should if they do it right.

1073
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

1074
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: Well, do you mean even with Drake May?

1075
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: No, I don't. I think that they need to have

1076
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: more weapons to get a better Yeah. I think the

1077
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 4: teams are going to sort of start playing a little

1078
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 4: bit differently against May than they did present. We'll see.

1079
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 4: But no, I think the teams are going to be

1080
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Speaker 4: very content to allow you to run the ball all

1081
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Speaker 4: you want.

1082
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Speaker 3: Well, okay, we should take.

1083
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Speaker 4: There's very few Baltimore's out there high powered rushing attacks.

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Speaker 12: I just I just need to not I just need

1085
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 12: some production and some balance to the offense. That's that's

1086
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 12: more of what it is. You're not gonna win with

1087
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 12: the with the running game. But I think it goes

1088
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 12: back to the conversation we had yesterday of you know,

1089
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Speaker 12: if Drake is able to start hitting some of these

1090
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 12: deep passes. I mean, I just I can't tell you

1091
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 12: how much it means to me, because it's you have

1092
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 12: to make the defense respect easy to defend, and the

1093
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 12: hardest thing to defend is when you have a team

1094
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 12: that can hit the deep ball, or at least have

1095
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 12: the threat of it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 12: And I think they talked about some plays being left

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00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 12: on the field too again Evan said it. I saw

1099
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Speaker 12: it again today. I mean, Jacksonville's gonna play a lot

1100
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 12: of too high safety, so you know, you shouldn't have

1101
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 12: these stack boxes. So hopefully Ramondre is out there, you know.

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Speaker 12: I mean, this is one of these weeks.

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Speaker 4: I wait, I think they'll run the ball better on

1104
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 4: Sunday than they did certainly last week. But you know

1105
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: what you have to hope is the production increased as

1106
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 4: the game went on. You have to hope that's because

1107
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: Drake may got more comfortable as the game went on,

1108
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: got better as the game went on, and made more

1109
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 4: good plays than bad as the game went on, as

1110
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Speaker 4: opposed to he threw for one hundred and eleven yards

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Speaker 4: when they were down twenty seven to seven, right right,

1112
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Speaker 4: and sixty of those came on one drive at the

1113
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 4: end of the first half in a two minute drill.

1114
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: So what you have to hope is it wasn't circumstantial

1115
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 4: increase in production because I want to say, through three

1116
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 4: and a half quarters he had thrown for one hundred

1117
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 4: and eleven yards, and then he got another one hundred,

1118
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty.

1119
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, when the game's still a game.

1120
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Speaker 4: The last couple of drives that were you know, it's

1121
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: kind of game set match by that point. So did

1122
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: that production, you know, did that come because Drake May

1123
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: was getting Well, that's kind of what I think. I

1124
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 4: think Drake May got more comfortable, he settled down a

1125
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 4: little bit. Unfortunately it was too late at that time.

1126
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: But I think maybe this week you could say he's

1127
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: got those jitters out of him. He's going to open

1128
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 4: the game the way he closed it. Yeah, you know,

1129
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 4: playing against a lesser defense, like I think there's reason

1130
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: for optimism for all that.

1131
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 12: I liked what he had to say today just about

1132
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 12: understanding what defenses are doing. And also you know, he

1133
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 12: said in himself explicitly, like, I know they're going to

1134
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 12: start to throw some different stuff at us, but he

1135
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 12: seems acutely aware of like who he is as a

1136
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 12: rookie quarterback, what they're trying to do to him, you know,

1137
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 12: And now he's starting to learn how NFL defenses really

1138
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 12: start to throw curveballs at you.

1139
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 3: You know.

1140
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 12: One other thing I would just say with the running

1141
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 12: game is we heard all summer about this wide zone

1142
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 12: and how much it's about being in sync and everybody

1143
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 12: taking that step together.

1144
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: And all that kind of how it could possibly be

1145
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 4: in sync.

1146
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 12: Well, how could you possibly be in sync with you know,

1147
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 12: Ben Brown, who's been there for three days, you know,

1148
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 12: and a left tackle who is you know, kind of

1149
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 12: a journeyman, practice squad guy, so hopefully practice this week again.

1150
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 12: I was just trying to make the point of I'm

1151
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 12: so curious to see when Evan comes back. Who's out there,

1152
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 12: Stevenson out there? You know, is Vaderian Lowe out there?

1153
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 12: I mean, and you know, for as much as we

1154
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 12: want to crap on the offensive line, I mean, Vaderian

1155
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 12: Lowe did okay a couple of weeks ago, it was okay,

1156
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 12: you know, and he's been out there a lot, he's

1157
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 12: gotten a lot of experience. If they can get back

1158
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 12: to that group, then you know, maybe they have a

1159
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 12: little bit. It's a sad state because you're right, like

1160
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 12: we said, like, where are the changes gonna come? Who's

1161
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 12: you know, who's going in, who's going out? Yeah, I

1162
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 12: don't know.

1163
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: You already are dealing with the backups, right. The backups

1164
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 4: are the guys that you're hoping can play Valerian low.

1165
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 12: Right well with the offensive line too. It's like you

1166
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 12: can either choose to play city so or you can

1167
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 12: choose the new center that they just signed off of

1168
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 12: somebody's practice squad. I mean they're raiding practice squads right

1169
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 12: now for centers. Those are talked about that too.

1170
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: I didn't mention that, Budet, do you have the name?

1171
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: So unfortunately we will no longer be hearing from sincere

1172
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 4: anything here.

1173
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 12: But shoot, I didn't. I didn't grab my ro So.

1174
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 4: They signed another are off of someone's practice squad. Love

1175
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 4: was lovidious. Let's say that's it something like that. Ye,

1176
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: I can't vetus.

1177
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 12: Levetass just put the pronunciation. I should have brought my.

1178
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 4: Sheet, so I'll have to look it up now.

1179
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 12: That's the state they're at right now.

1180
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 4: And they signed another center for the practice squad and

1181
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: they swat. They made a practice squad swat.

1182
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 12: I'm talking as well as a cornerback. But that's you know,

1183
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 12: that's where they're at right now. They're rating practice squads,

1184
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 12: trying to find depth at center. And you know, I'm

1185
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 12: always of the mind of maybe maybe there's a diamond

1186
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 12: in the rough. You know, I kind of have a

1187
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 12: positive outle like at first Paul. Paul's beaten most of

1188
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 12: it out of me with like practice squad guys, but

1189
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 12: I still have you know, you give a guy like

1190
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 12: Ben Brown a chance, and he's been a journeyman, and

1191
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 12: you know, this is his opportunity, this is his Tom Brady,

1192
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 12: you might not get another one kind of a chance.

1193
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 12: And every now and then, it's not common, it's certainly

1194
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 12: not the rule, but every now and then those guys

1195
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 12: get an opportunity and they just start to click and

1196
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 12: they get it, and all of a sudden, we're going

1197
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 12: into the off season with like, hey, we found this

1198
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 12: Ben Brown kid. So if Andrews can't come back, we

1199
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 12: feel pretty good about him.

1200
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 3: I mean, David Andrews himself was undrafted, right.

1201
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 4: Ye, undrafted. It's not the same as getting signed off

1202
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 4: as someone's practice squad. No, he was undrafted, came here,

1203
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 4: made the team out of camp, and was the starter

1204
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 4: on day one.

1205
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: Okay, because we didn't have anybody good, but that's all right, Nope, but.

1206
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 4: He was good and earned the starting job.

1207
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: Well, maybe maybe this guy can too.

1208
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 4: And again when I you know, Mike is teasing me

1209
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 4: and I get that, it's Lasidas Smith Smith. Forget Smith

1210
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: Smith from Green Bay's practice squad. They also signed Miles

1211
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 4: Battle to the practice squad and released Hansworth, so it

1212
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 4: wasn't the center on the practice squad as a cornerback

1213
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 4: for a center on the practice squad. My thing isn't

1214
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 4: to sort of beat that out of anybody like that.

1215
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's I don't ever think that signing

1216
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 4: someone else's practice squad cast off is you know, has

1217
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: any more than like a lottery ticket, right, I'm not

1218
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: telling you they never work. Yes, the odds of that slim.

1219
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 12: I just thought of one more quick. I know we're

1220
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 12: gonna go to break here in a second, but another

1221
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 12: like potential move christianellis maybe maybe he gets a little

1222
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 12: bit more time. He's been kind of a dime linebacker

1223
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 12: subpackages kind of thing. Maybe they give him a shot

1224
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 12: at one of those, at one of those possible.

1225
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,480
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1227
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1228
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1229
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,960
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1230
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Speaker 6: Scoring are doing start number two?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think the first off is pricked the football.

1267
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 16: Our defense put them some bad spots, but that we

1268
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,160
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00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,360
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1270
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 16: then for me, just I feel like I was seeing

1271
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 16: it pretty well. Just you know, missed that first one

1272
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,560
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1273
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 16: of kind of groove later on the pop. But we

1274
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 16: got some guys in the huddle, I can make some

1275
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 16: plays and my jobs to get to them and let

1276
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 16: them do their thing. What is it like hitting and.

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Speaker 6: Keeps work with?

1278
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 4: What are some things with him that you don't necessarily have.

1279
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 6: To consider when they come different?

1280
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know you can't. You can't garden in a

1281
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 16: phone booth. He's a tough to garden, you know, man coverage,

1282
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 16: and he's got an act to find his own. So

1283
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 16: he's a He's a great, great guy to have out there,

1284
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 16: and it makes my job a little easier. And anytime

1285
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 16: you see a man match up, you know, Pop is

1286
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 16: somebody that you want to go to. And we have

1287
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 16: guys on the outside. I can make players that he's

1288
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 16: saw them on Sunday as well, So we looking forward

1289
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 16: to you know what the guys we got and also

1290
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 16: with our tight end group, we got some some mismatches,

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Speaker 16: so we've got a lot of stuff that makes it

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Speaker 16: tough on the defense. Just gotta kind of find the

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Speaker 16: right way to do it and do my part.

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Speaker 7: Here.

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Speaker 4: He had mentioned after the game, he said that.

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Speaker 1: He's got that spot I run through a wall for now.

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Speaker 17: What's it like to have that kind of support one

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Speaker 17: of year receiver?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it means the world, and you know,

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Speaker 16: gives me confidence. I think those guys do a great

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Speaker 16: job of pumping me up. They're putting me up throughout this,

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Speaker 16: throughout the game, on the sideline, before the game, in

1303
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Speaker 16: the huddle, they do a great job. And you know,

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Speaker 16: I think the wide receivers you know they got they

1305
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Speaker 16: always got the most slags are guys. You always got

1306
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Speaker 16: some slag. So uh, you know, it's it's good. It's

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Speaker 16: nice to hear something like that and just know for

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Speaker 16: those those guys and try to do the same for them.

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Speaker 17: Do you do you see the offense evolving around.

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Speaker 12: You when you're skill set?

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Speaker 16: I think yeah, anytime, you know, with the quarterback, I

1312
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Speaker 16: think kind of the offense kind of is tailored towards

1313
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Speaker 16: you know, who's who's under center and who's.

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Speaker 6: You know, getting snaps and getting the ball all your play.

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Speaker 16: So I think a VP, he's done done a nice

1316
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Speaker 16: job asking me what I like and what you know,

1317
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Speaker 16: what I don't like, and what I feel comfortable with,

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Speaker 16: and I think they'll continue to grow is the weeks

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Speaker 16: go by.

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Speaker 6: So that's something that we're kind of trying to figure out.

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Speaker 16: And at the same time as some than that, I

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Speaker 16: think can make it tough on the defense because I

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Speaker 16: feel like we can do a lot different things and

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Speaker 16: I can kind of make it hard for the defense

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Speaker 16: doing some different stuff that.

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Speaker 8: Your confidence gives them confidence and curs your confidence.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, my confidence comes from I think, uh, just moving football,

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Speaker 16: moving football and just finding completions. I think any quarterback

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Speaker 16: you kind of get more confident, you know, getting first downs,

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Speaker 16: find completions, making a good throw or making you know,

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Speaker 16: the right throw. That's the best biggest thing, making the

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Speaker 16: right throw. And at the same time you get confidence

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Speaker 16: from from others. And it's just like in I want

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Speaker 16: to get pumped up and I try to remind myself

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Speaker 16: on the sideline kind of be the voice of pumps

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Speaker 16: some guys up and other than that, just try to

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Speaker 16: kind of build my role as a leadership role each

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Speaker 16: and every week as I try to earn the guys

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Speaker 16: respect for your interest.

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Speaker 4: So playing goods a little easier as the game long

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Speaker 4: than you.

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Speaker 2: Would expected because you're making money a little a little harder.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think kind of obviously the first game of

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Speaker 16: the Texans, you kind of you can see kind of

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Speaker 16: we call the flavor of the day, what do the

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Speaker 16: Textans want to do, you know, they want to kind

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Speaker 16: of heat us up, play man kind of what these

1348
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Speaker 16: defense are trying to do to us that day. I

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Speaker 16: think it's kind of easier to kind of get a

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Speaker 16: picture of what they want to do on specific where

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Speaker 16: it's down down distance or certain guys what they want

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Speaker 16: to do, or hey, they want to you know, kind

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Speaker 16: of put a spy on me what they want to

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Speaker 16: do kind of defensively, I think it's kind of it

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Speaker 16: was easier for me to kind of see what Textans

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Speaker 16: trying to do to us as we got kind of

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Speaker 16: down the road in the game. And I'm sure some

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Speaker 16: teams will trying to mix it up down the road,

1359
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Speaker 16: but kind of easier for me as the game went along. Hey,

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Speaker 16: they're trying to do this, we can exploit them these ways.

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Speaker 6: It's been a live product of confidence you have. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and I pad helps too.

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Speaker 1: So is having been through a league, having seen the

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Speaker 1: game now at NFL speed, been through it done there,

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Speaker 1: had some success.

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Speaker 6: Does that give you more confidence this week now as

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Speaker 6: you prepare for your second game?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 16: No, I think it just you know, as a week

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Speaker 16: go on, I think get more more confident, especially you

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Speaker 16: know with the game plan stuff. And I'll be a

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Speaker 16: little different this week going over overseas, but I had

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Speaker 16: to figure that that out. But at the same time

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Speaker 16: going out there and I understand the plan and understanding. Hey,

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Speaker 16: I like to you know, studying this you know last

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Speaker 16: week and can can carry that on or hey, I

1377
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Speaker 16: asked TC to do something different in the quarterback room

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Speaker 16: so we can get on the same page with with

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Speaker 16: different looks.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever been out of the country.

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Speaker 3: I have you.

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Speaker 6: I had some family.

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Speaker 16: I lived in London, my uncle did and me and

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Speaker 16: my family went to the Olympics in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 6: Out there, just.

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Speaker 9: Taking your second start on the international stage.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think, you know, helps getting that first one,

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Speaker 16: you know, last week, you know, going overseas to a

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Speaker 16: you know, to London to play in front of a

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Speaker 16: you know, a big crowd out there. It would be

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Speaker 16: pretty cool to you know, see the NFL you know

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Speaker 16: side of it playing overseas. So excited to go over

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Speaker 16: there and they've got a chance to get a win

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Speaker 16: and hopefully kind of start stacking them.

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Speaker 4: Who lived in who lived in Love still there?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, they've brigally moved to the California so they play basketball. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: he plays in Japan. It's far away from London on Sunday. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: these days out he does does a nice job of support.

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Speaker 5: So I'm just curious, when you've reviewed your first game

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01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 5: from the other day, were there moments or were their

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01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 5: plays that you looked at He's and you maybe look

1403
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 5: back now and say yourself, I'm not sure I would

1404
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 5: have been able to do that had I started week won.

1405
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 5: Were there moments like that for you where you know,

1406
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 5: the time that you had to sort of sit and

1407
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 5: watch behind the scenes really helped you out in a

1408
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 5: in a certain moment that game.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think you know, the biggest thing is kind

1410
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 16: of you know, the run checks and them, you know,

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01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 16: different looks to get us in the best run. I

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01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 16: think that's the biggest thing of you know, watching Jacoby

1413
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 16: do it and watching how he does it and you'll

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01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 16: bring in guys that block the right guys. I feel

1415
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 16: that's kind of the thing that I didn't really you know,

1416
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 16: kind of really look at until I look at the film, like, hey,

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01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 16: you know, I feel like, you know, in the run game,

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01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 16: I did mostly everything that that asked and you know,

1419
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 16: the right execution. So I think that was the biggest

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01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 16: kind of sigh relief of seeing all different run looks

1421
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 16: under center, seeing you know, seeing it and getting the

1422
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 16: guys blocked up. So just got to continue to do that.

1423
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 16: And I think the passing game, like I'll see it well,

1424
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 16: just got to make some better throws.

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01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 18: Your first completion was under center play action mood.

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 6: You had pressure right away.

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01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 18: That's something new relevant to what you're doing in college

1428
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 18: under center turning around, how comfortable have you been in

1429
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 18: those settings? Understanding sometimes when you do turn your back

1430
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 18: to the defense, the picture could change from what you

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01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 18: saw recent.

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Speaker 6: You know. I think that's that's something that in practice

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 6: that you get up.

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Speaker 16: We've done a nice job of getting some under center

1435
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 16: reps of a play action, and you know our defense

1436
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 16: is a good job of you know, flipping up the

1437
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 16: coverages and changing the picture post snap and that's something

1438
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 16: that you know, really is starting to kind of understand

1439
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 16: and learn of the picture. I'm seeing you when I

1440
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 16: first get the snap verse, when I turn my back

1441
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 16: and look at it, maybe different. So just trying to,

1442
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 16: you know, find my checkdowns or find an outlet and

1443
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 16: that'll be something that I'll kind of build towards, and

1444
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 16: then other than that, try to exploit them with matchups.

1445
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, And now great moments in history.

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Speaker 12: I allowed to call out other PEW listeners slash callers

1447
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 12: if so, I would like to call out Todd in

1448
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 12: North Carolina for being a fraud whoa a week or

1449
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 12: two ago, you called him out for all the background

1450
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 12: noise when he called into the show. He claimed he

1451
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 12: didn't know why there was so much noise, and then

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 12: he might have been doing dishes or something. I have

1453
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 12: a hard time believing this story. Why would he know well,

1454
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 12: why would he not know what he was doing when

1455
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 12: he called him the show? It seems like something you remember,

1456
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,479
Speaker 12: Love you Todd, just having fun and then he calls

1457
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Speaker 12: us out for our background noise.

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Speaker 3: So let's go to Todd, North Carolina. Todd, if you

1459
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: called it.

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Speaker 4: Perfect, if you did that on purpose, mate, that was good,

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01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 4: well done, my friend. No, I don't think you did

1462
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 4: it on purpose. All right, that's another great moment. All right.

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Speaker 4: Many of those little things that you completely forget and

1464
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 4: as soon as you hear it, you're like, oh, I

1465
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 4: remember that.

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Speaker 12: We do a lot of talking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do. Back here on Patriots Unfiltered A five

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Speaker 3: to five pass five hundred is the TPX hotline podcast

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Speaker 3: at Patriots dot Com. It's Paul Duson Fred Evan will

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Speaker 3: be coming by later. Can we play that song one time?

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Speaker 3: I just want to give people another Listen to that

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Speaker 3: song I've never had before ny groove.

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01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, was the mood?

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01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 8: Look, who's back from the locker room?

1475
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 5: What was the mood?

1476
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 17: Where the players friendly to that?

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01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: None of them look like Devin Henry, Hey, Mike, what

1478
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: was it like in the locker room?

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Speaker 12: Like?

1480
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Speaker 3: What was it like in locker room? Stuff?

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Speaker 12: Just right right to the point, short, sweet, Yeah, I ideal,

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Speaker 12: great job, Joe, great, way better than Evan's song, way

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Speaker 12: better and way better than I a I think Matt did,

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Speaker 12: which I think he was working on an AI song

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Speaker 12: for you.

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Speaker 4: Paul. Yeah, I don't need that now, I don't need that.

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Speaker 3: Brian and Ireland right saying he says, I'm heading to

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Speaker 3: London for the game. I'm not on Facebook, so I

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Speaker 3: couldn't get a ticket for the Patriots meet up in

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Speaker 3: the Greenwood Pub Saturday night. Is there any other meetups

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01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 3: as I would love to buy you all beers as

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01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 3: a small token of appreciation for all the hours of

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Speaker 3: great content. Well, I know I was told by Warren

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Speaker 3: Ladd of the UK Patriots that on game day they're

1495
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Speaker 3: meeting up at a place called the green Man Pub,

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01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 3: which is at Wembley. It's not in the stadium, but

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Speaker 3: it's right by the stadium. There's no tailgating in England,

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Speaker 3: so you know, people usually get there by trains.

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Speaker 4: Because you have to drive on the.

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Speaker 12: Steering like maybe, but I don't.

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Speaker 3: Most people take public transportation to get to the game

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Speaker 3: and then they just go in, but they do their

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Speaker 3: partying beforehand in pubs or whatever. So the green Man

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Speaker 3: Pub is where the UK Patriots will be the morning

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Speaker 3: of the game.

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Speaker 12: So they're charging tickets to meet kersh.

1507
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: No, No, there's no cost, it's just limited.

1508
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 4: You'll receive total consciousness, right.

1509
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but it's just I think the ven the Whold,

1510
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 3: like seven hundred people or something already sold out. So

1511
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: I just have that day, ChRI, I have.

1512
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 4: A word from overseas.

1513
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 12: I just I just heard from you know, coming out

1514
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 12: of a head.

1515
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 4: We're going to you know, Matt, Matt you know the

1516
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah Smith. I don't know you think noolog his interim

1517
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 4: pre and postgame show hosts Matt Smith.

1518
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: Uh, you just standing in the party. Know it's talk.

1519
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 4: And I was like, like second. So I just texted

1520
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 4: him because he asked me, you know, if we had

1521
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 4: a special guest host for the weekend. I said, yes,

1522
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 4: we do. He is, he's coming back, and uh, you're

1523
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 4: on thin ice because I wanted to see if I

1524
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 4: could get on the.

1525
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 12: Glasses started the same.

1526
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 4: But he did tell me like my people. So I

1527
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 4: was texting back and forth to Matt and Matt is

1528
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 4: with Warren and Chris Fred, you know, some of our

1529
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 4: UK regulars, and then they saw my name pop up

1530
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 4: on Matt's phone and maybe it's Matt quote Matt, because

1531
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 4: it was like it was Tom Brady.

1532
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 12: Do you think that's kind of like when people like

1533
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 12: like the nerds go to like a Game of Thrones

1534
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 12: convention and they're all excited and they get like and

1535
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 12: this was the guy who played dragon Holder number three,

1536
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 12: Like when they see Matt and Matt, you know, like

1537
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 12: they're all excited, it's just you know, poor Matt. Matt's man,

1538
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 12: oh oh, show host. Where's they're They're not here? Thank

1539
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 12: you please.

1540
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 3: That's good.

1541
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 4: I'm telling you. By the time Fred gets there on

1542
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 4: like Friday, Matt's gonna be like in the feudal position

1543
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 4: of a pub.

1544
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 3: You Matt, you know a lot of people are excited

1545
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 3: about Hardy coming on the show.

1546
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, well yes, he talked about it this morning. You

1547
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 12: asked me a little little hit and told him we

1548
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 12: were very excited. He asked about the breaks, you know, like, well,

1549
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 12: it's only a poower goes, he.

1550
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 4: Goes, So can I assume we'll get one break in

1551
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 4: that two hour boats?

1552
01:09:59,120 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 3: I heard him?

1553
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: We are two in there, right? I think we take

1554
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 4: two breaks in the post game, do we not?

1555
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 6: We're not?

1556
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 3: You tell them we're doing three hours after?

1557
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 12: We know we should we should, we should keep keep

1558
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 12: mp it up.

1559
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: You know what.

1560
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 4: I'll wait till he gets here because I don't want

1561
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 4: to back up.

1562
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 12: Right, we had that, We took the first hour from

1563
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 12: the pregame pre doing that on them.

1564
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 4: We got to get we got to get it all

1565
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 4: right to my red zone time.

1566
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 3: Louis from Switzerland rights In says, why did I have

1567
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 3: to see Drake as a guest on EEI in what

1568
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 3: looked like your studio. If there's a Patriots podcast that

1569
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 3: should If there's a Patriots podcast that should get him

1570
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: as a guest, it should be you guys. I know

1571
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 3: Paul hates player interviews, but hearing Drake and Evan talk

1572
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 3: x's and o's one on one would be pure porn

1573
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 3: for all the ball knowers and ps. I'll be in

1574
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 3: London for the game. Let me know which five guys

1575
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 3: are McDonald's. You guys will be having lunch at so

1576
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 3: you can privately show me all the emails you got

1577
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 3: for Bill when you said something wrong during the show.

1578
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 4: Man, I would just say I, and I say this

1579
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 4: with no hyperbole at all. I can't think of anything

1580
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 4: I would rather listen.

1581
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 12: To less than Evan and Drake talking all.

1582
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 4: But yes, that is that's not a guest. Drake May

1583
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 4: is not a guest on w E I contracts tractual

1584
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 4: paid appearance. The starting quarterback appears with and it is you.

1585
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 4: You were right, it is our studio that they do that.

1586
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 12: I get a little jealous when I see those things

1587
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 12: when they're when EI set up in here, and I

1588
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 12: understand that I'd have to listen to it to be

1589
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 12: jealous of it. You know, we should have morele have

1590
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 12: no interest in that at all. Get like some just

1591
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 12: print like the you know e I like just prints

1592
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 12: and just like you know, hang it up over so

1593
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 12: it looks like yeah, but we.

1594
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 4: Would have felt I felt really bad Andy. Andy texted

1595
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 4: me Monday. It was probably about eight o'clock or so.

1596
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 4: He's like, did you did you listen to the Drake

1597
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 4: May inter your I go, no, why what happened? I

1598
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 4: mean we thought Andy did something stupid, Like I just yeah,

1599
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 4: you know, I'm pretty consistent. Every once in a while,

1600
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 4: a play like Kurt Schilling back in the day for

1601
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 4: the Redstocks. You used to say some ridiculous, like outrageous things,

1602
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 4: and he was worth listening to because you never knew

1603
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 4: what stupid thing he was gonna stay The next week right,

1604
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 4: I will forfeit that guy, that one guy that's interesting

1605
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 4: to not have to listen to the hundreds and hundreds

1606
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 4: of other guys that just give me, Well, we just

1607
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 4: got you know, we just gotta execute better. We gotta

1608
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 4: play that. And this is no disrespect to Drake. Mate.

1609
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 4: We had him on our show the day after he

1610
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 4: was drafted and it was great. I loved I loved

1611
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 4: getting to meet him. I thought he was a really

1612
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 4: cool guy.

1613
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 3: But like I think these interviews a lot of it

1614
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 3: has to do with the interview were I mean, some

1615
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 3: people are better at.

1616
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 4: It, everybody's really bad at it. There being the interview world.

1617
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 12: It would just be hard every week having to come

1618
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 12: up with new questions and all we got with Drake coming.

1619
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 3: Up and already really hard.

1620
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 12: And you want to try to provide insight. But and

1621
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 12: it's also just always weird to me when you have

1622
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 12: two radio show hosts who have been on the radio

1623
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 12: for an hour, like tearing the tea a part of it,

1624
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 12: and here's Drake. So Drake, how's it going? You know,

1625
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 12: Like we weren't just talking when.

1626
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 3: They had him, they were literally saying, geez, I hope

1627
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 3: he doesn't walk in in the middle of me saying that.

1628
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 4: It's kind of like when we do the good, the bad,

1629
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 4: and the injury after a win, we have a player

1630
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 4: and we're in the middle of the bad list, and

1631
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden joining us right now, Brandon Bolden,

1632
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 4: Who the joke there is? Brandon Bolden was the post

1633
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 4: game guest after a lot of wins.

1634
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 3: All right, Eldred's on the line. What's up, Eldred? Hey?

1635
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 9: Both, are y'all doing today?

1636
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 3: Good?

1637
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,520
Speaker 4: Hey?

1638
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 3: Hey Mike?

1639
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1640
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 12: Thanks man? I well, thank Joe?

1641
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 9: Hey, can ask you all questions? Sending a lot of

1642
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 9: trade going down. Do you think mister Wolf can just

1643
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 9: try to get a third bow left tackle, you know,

1644
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 9: get the wide receiver part, which I wouldn't mind having

1645
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 9: that egg, but you need to tackle the hip that quarterback.

1646
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,919
Speaker 3: I'm sure if there was somebody out there that was available,

1647
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 3: he would be burning up that phone line.

1648
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 4: I like, I wouldn't be stunned if they acquired a

1649
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 4: left tackle. I would be stunned if it was a

1650
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 4: left tackle. Who's going to solve your left tackle problems?

1651
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 11: Right?

1652
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 12: That's right, It's gonna be one of these kind of

1653
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 12: practice squad.

1654
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 3: It's got to be just the right situation a team

1655
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 3: that's not in it, or that has a tackle that's

1656
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 3: disgruntled or you know, yeah, it has to be just

1657
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:20,839
Speaker 3: the right situation because.

1658
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 9: No one's maybe maybe Cleveland, you know, because they like

1659
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 9: I said, I didn't know hop Tunes or a Marii

1660
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 9: Cooper or that there because nobody never did them. But

1661
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 9: teams made trades and they got him.

1662
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 4: Yep, you know, well Amari Cooper held out in the

1663
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 4: that one didn't. Yeah, Amari Cooper held out all summer.

1664
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 4: Like that's the epitome of a disgruntled player, veteran that

1665
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 4: could be available. Yeah, when it doesn't go well.

1666
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 3: And then when you start losing, right because they gave.

1667
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 4: Him some money and then you start losing. Cleveland is

1668
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 4: kind of like Jacksonville. Cleveland was a playoff team last year, right,

1669
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 4: they thought they would be good. They've been terrible.

1670
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 12: They liked I like that move for Buffalo.

1671
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 4: It's a great move for Buffalo, but like, that's not

1672
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 4: a great move for the Patriots.

1673
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 12: No, I just real quick, you know, someone had suggested

1674
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 12: because we're playing the Jags, as they wrote in I

1675
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 12: think the walker little third tackle, second round pick from

1676
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 12: a couple of years ago with the Jags, as you know,

1677
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 12: potential kind of trade candidate those are you know, that's

1678
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 12: kind of people suggesting is he on his rookie contract? Yeah,

1679
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 12: there'll be a free agent this year. Yeah, so like,

1680
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 12: so what's the point? Get them?

1681
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,839
Speaker 4: Get them in free just sign them in free agency?

1682
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 3: James is in England? What's up? James?

1683
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 4: Have things?

1684
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 8: Guys?

1685
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 3: Is this James pettigrews the most interesting Patriots fans?

1686
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 12: Well, you better live up to the moniker because he's

1687
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 12: been saying this.

1688
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 4: But Mike, you've never met this man, and I want

1689
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 4: you to pay attention.

1690
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 10: I'm on I'm on the wait list for the party,

1691
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 10: So if any other listeners then not take it. Meet

1692
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 10: me outside. We're going to bum rush the event. Patriots.

1693
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 4: I have no doubt that you have several ways of

1694
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 4: entering that party.

1695
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 3: I have a feeling this is going to turn out

1696
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: to be like that World Cup game in Miami.

1697
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 4: Oh now, I'm glad.

1698
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 10: I'm not going to be like if a handful of

1699
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 10: guys can like bum rush Congress and like start passing doors,

1700
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 10: we can bum rush a like pub in England. It

1701
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 10: shouldn't be too difficult.

1702
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 4: Here's a very specific set of skills.

1703
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, those miss money penny apparently.

1704
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 3: So what else, James? Is that all you want to

1705
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 3: tell us to warn us that you'll be doing nothing much?

1706
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 10: I shall, hopefully if if you can swing me a tickets, Bread, great,

1707
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 10: If not, I'm on the wait list. But I know

1708
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 10: you guys finished. The event finishes at ten, so if

1709
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 10: we have to start after.

1710
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 6: Ten, so be it.

1711
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 3: Don't worry. I'll take care of you.

1712
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 4: James. You'll still be there.

1713
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 10: Very very good, Bread. I look forward to it.

1714
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll see you Saturday night.

1715
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 10: Very good, guys, looking forward to seeing everyone again and

1716
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 10: catching up.

1717
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 12: All right, thanks James, I got a little fomo now,

1718
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 12: a little a little fear missing out, so I will

1719
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 12: That sounds like it's.

1720
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 4: Gonna I will say, and I've you know, I always

1721
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 4: did that. I did that.

1722
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 12: This is cool.

1723
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 4: I would absolutely love to be at that party.

1724
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 3: This is going to be wild.

1725
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 4: I would love to be at that if for nothing else,

1726
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 4: to heckel Fred who's hosting it? Right? That would be

1727
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 4: fun me and you could just be Oh, I'd.

1728
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 3: Be bringing you up on stage, believe me, you would.

1729
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 4: You would not be just watching how many mill of

1730
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 4: lights would I've had by that time a lot? So

1731
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 4: an alcoholic the other day and I wasn't happy. I didn't.

1732
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 4: I didn't take too kind to that. No, someone on

1733
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 4: Twitter said, it's a sure sign of an alcoholic.

1734
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 3: What was your sign?

1735
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. Just there was a clip of us

1736
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 4: talking about my centers.

1737
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 12: That was on Oh, that was great clip, that was

1738
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 12: really fun.

1739
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 4: I didn't like that. No, Like, you know, we joke

1740
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 4: around about like mill of lights and stuff, but like

1741
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 4: I have, I have like two mill of lights a month.

1742
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you partake, you're good.

1743
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm a happy drunk. You have to admit that.

1744
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, I've never seen you angry when you're drunk.

1745
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 4: No, it's all the other times.

1746
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's when you're not. You need to be drunk,

1747
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 3: is what was what you need? Especially when you go shopping,

1748
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 3: you know, when you're interacting with people, you need to

1749
01:17:58,840 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 3: be drunk.

1750
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 4: If I go shop, that's a great idea. Although Beth

1751
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 4: doesn't make me go shopping anymore. No, she buys your

1752
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 4: Do you get tired when you shop?

1753
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

1754
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 12: I know what I want.

1755
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 4: I go in again, and when I immediately get tired,

1756
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 4: I hear you that's how much I dislike the whole.

1757
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 3: Oh my mother would remember when you were little, Your

1758
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 3: mother would take your clothes shopping and your legs would

1759
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 3: just collapse. It's like you you you had no interest

1760
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 3: in It's like.

1761
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 4: I was more, I was a fifty two year old.

1762
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 4: I just I immediately get tired if I even look

1763
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 4: at them all. Yeah, I can't.

1764
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 3: I pretend they fainted at midnight Mass once because I

1765
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 3: just wanted to get the hell of midnight mass.

1766
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 4: That is such bad karma.

1767
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1768
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 4: I pretended.

1769
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 3: Let's just go on, Let's see. Jake writes the completely

1770
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 3: agree with Paul about Draw should not be making it

1771
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 3: the Drake may show. This team needs to be unified

1772
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 3: right now. We talked earlier about you know, Mike.

1773
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 4: That was in reference to though we need to do

1774
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 4: more to support Drake. Yeah, you know, like we need

1775
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 4: to be a better team. Right, It's not about one guy.

1776
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 4: We didn't need to do any more to support Drake

1777
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 4: than we did to support Jacoby in the first five games, right, Tom,

1778
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 4: they need to play better.

1779
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, with all of Poke's struggles as of late, I'm

1780
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 3: curious what you guys thought of a d Mitchell during

1781
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 3: the draft process, great route runner from Texas, four to

1782
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 3: three speed, bigger than pok had some criticism about taking

1783
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 3: plays off, but I don't get how he fell to

1784
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 3: the end of the second not exactly lighting it up

1785
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 3: in Indie, but he was always but he's always open.

1786
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 4: We had it was some off field stuff for him.

1787
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 4: He dropped like a stone in the draft.

1788
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, I lost track of him.

1789
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 4: He's been just okay, but they've also had a mess.

1790
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 4: Well you know, they lost Rick Richardson and they flats

1791
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 4: like it's been a little uneven there. Yeah.

1792
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 3: I'm not giving up on Poke by any means, but

1793
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 3: he doesn't really have the traits for me to be

1794
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:58,879
Speaker 3: super hopeful for his ceiling. Thought he had insane hands

1795
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 3: in college, but but he's showing the opposite of that

1796
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 3: right now. No, I think that the hands will come back.

1797
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 4: Just one game. I'm not worried about the hands.

1798
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 12: I think so too.

1799
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 4: I mean that.

1800
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 12: So they asked Douglas about in the locker room, do

1801
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 12: you think you're going to get more attention this week?

1802
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 12: And he's like, well, if they do, it's gonna open

1803
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 12: some stuff up for some other guys. So it'd be

1804
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 12: great to see maybe Polk have a little bit of

1805
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 12: a game, you know, get some confidence. I mean, I

1806
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 12: think too, maybe I wonder if that whole touchdown that

1807
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 12: wasn't affected him mentally a little bit, you know. It

1808
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 12: just he's had a lot of like ups and downs

1809
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 12: and kind of riding the wave of I just caught

1810
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 12: a game when he touched down my first touchdown and like,

1811
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 12: actually it didn't and he's confused about it, and you know,

1812
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 12: I think that might be part of the mental block

1813
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 12: that Jara talked about with him, is you know, hit

1814
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 12: the reset button and get back in there what you

1815
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 12: did all summer.

1816
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,799
Speaker 3: Next, next game. Lucas writes in I cannot hear another

1817
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 3: person say that the line needs to do whatever it

1818
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 3: takes to protect May. The line is not good, not talented,

1819
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 3: not disciplined. They try to protect him. Obviously we averaged

1820
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 3: like three holds a drive. They're trying to bend the

1821
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 3: rules to help him out, but obviously you can't do that.

1822
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 3: It's a lack of talent. There's just not much starting

1823
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 3: caliber players that can do at this point unless we're

1824
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 3: playing the damage Miami defense. May's a tough kid and

1825
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 3: takes pride in being tough. It's football. Injuries happen. Hopefully

1826
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 3: nothing happens, but patience. Everyone love the Drake or hate

1827
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 3: the Drake, just know that they are trying.

1828
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 12: I mean, I agree with the general sentiment. I just

1829
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 12: like to give them the same clove guys for a

1830
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 12: few weeks and just, you know, let them continue to develop.

1831
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 12: Because I do think, regardless of how talented or not

1832
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 12: you are, when a bunch of five offensive linemen play

1833
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 12: together week in week out, for you know, going back

1834
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 12: to the summer, and you're able to get and rhythm

1835
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 12: and sync together, that it can be better. I don't

1836
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 12: expect it to be great, and I think there'll always

1837
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 12: be some breakdowns and some issues here and there. They

1838
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 12: just have to survive this year with this line, and

1839
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 12: then it has to has.

1840
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 4: To have I agree with you to the extent of

1841
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 4: the little sense, like it's been so bad that it

1842
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 4: can be better, Like you like, you should reasonably be

1843
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 4: able to expect to give up pressure less than half

1844
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 4: the time, which is almost what they've done through six games. Right,

1845
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 4: it's like forty eight something for that and they're in

1846
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 4: the thirties, like they're at the bottom of the league,

1847
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 4: you know, and I know that maybe not dead last,

1848
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 4: but they're in that neighborhood. Yeah, like you can reasonably

1849
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 4: expect to be better than that. But I don't think

1850
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 4: you can reasonably expect to be good, not with what

1851
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 4: the personnel that they have. I agree with the email.

1852
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 12: It might be able to get the serviceable.

1853
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know. I don't know.

1854
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 3: Pats and Agawama on the TPX outline. What's up pat?

1855
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 19: Heyfternoon?

1856
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 12: Everyone.

1857
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 3: Hey.

1858
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 19: I got a couple questions, one for PAULI and then

1859
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 19: one for the group. Paul Drake may as far as

1860
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 19: like your top five favorite Patriots drafts of all time?

1861
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 19: Does he land in the top five? Because I know

1862
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 19: Drew You're number one?

1863
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 4: I hope so, I mean, but like, can I see

1864
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,520
Speaker 4: him play before I make that determination.

1865
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 19: I just mean like in terms of, like, you know,

1866
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 19: when they drafted Drew and I was the same way

1867
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 19: in ninety three when they took him, I was like

1868
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 19: excited because it was a new era. I felt like

1869
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 19: when they drafted Drake, this this was kind of I

1870
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 19: didn't have the same excitement because I was a lot

1871
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 19: younger back then and that was probably more fanatical.

1872
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 4: But now I am I am excited about Drake may I.

1873
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 4: I like the skill set, I like the idea of

1874
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 4: what they looked at and uh, they're going to try

1875
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 4: to develop. But yeah, I can't put him in top

1876
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 4: five drafts until he plays.

1877
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but I get what my top five. Yeah,

1878
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 3: I get what Patty's saying. Like, I think what he's

1879
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 3: saying is, at the time of the draft, we're like, oh,

1880
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 3: I'm so glad they took that guy. Like at that time,

1881
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: you know, I haven't been excited about anyone really like that.

1882
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think.

1883
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 4: I mean, Gronk, I was gonna sayn Gronk was one

1884
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 4: of those for me, I mean more so for Andy.

1885
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 4: Andy really really and was a big But I like

1886
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 4: that when I really like Chandler Jones when they drafted him. Yeah, sorry,

1887
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 4: Chandler obviously drew pat Patty brings out to think of

1888
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 4: some other ones. Yeah, I really like Gonzales when they

1889
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 4: drafted We're all like really excited about that Picky when

1890
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 4: they when they picked him.

1891
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 3: I'll tell you who I was excited about at the

1892
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 3: time they drafted him, and shortly later, you know, my

1893
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 3: excitement Wayne was Lawrence Maroney. Yeah. I remember when they

1894
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 3: drafted him, was like, all right, we got this running

1895
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,520
Speaker 3: back dynamic.

1896
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 4: You know, I do you think I reacted to that pick?

1897
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 3: Get him on your own time?

1898
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,719
Speaker 12: That probably, but you probably, like Chad.

1899
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 4: Jackson I did. That's another one. That's another one I

1900
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 4: was very excited about. Yeah, see, like that's good. I'm

1901
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 4: glad you bring that up because I don't want it

1902
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: to sound like, oh wow, Yeah, Paul was really excited

1903
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 4: when they drafted the greatest tight end who's ever played.

1904
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 4: I also was very excited when they drafted a wide

1905
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 4: receiver who absolutely couldn't play.

1906
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1907
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 12: I mean speaking speaking strictly about like I mean, I

1908
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 12: didn't watch them draft Tom Brady I and like, you know,

1909
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 12: like that, but for ones that I specifically watched, especially

1910
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 12: when I was so embedded in it with Gronk where

1911
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 12: coming off of that lost to Baltimore and he put

1912
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 12: that helmet on and was sell like it was just

1913
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 12: like this is what this team needs right now, just

1914
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 12: an influx of personality and life and you know, just

1915
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 12: you could tell that he was just going to be

1916
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 12: a force out there and that was I mean that

1917
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 12: to me in terms of like blogging, you know, being

1918
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 12: watching the draft and taking it in every second. I

1919
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 12: think Gronk would.

1920
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 4: I remember when they had the number one pick. This

1921
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 4: is when I was really young, probably just in high school,

1922
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 4: when they had the number one pick and they took

1923
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 4: Kenneth Simms. The at the time, Will McDonald was the

1924
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 4: guy like he had all the information, and I remember

1925
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 4: there was constant speculation number one pick, who they're going

1926
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 4: to take, and Will McDonough had like all these capsules

1927
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 4: of guys and obviously Kenneth Sims was one of them,

1928
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 4: but Tippett was also in that. And I really when

1929
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 4: they ended up getting tipp It in the second round.

1930
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 4: I remember people thinking of him as a possible ability

1931
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 4: in the first round, and I was like, in the

1932
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 4: second round, they got this guy that everybody was talking about.

1933
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 4: I think it was more of like if they traded

1934
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 4: down like tip it could be a target. And I

1935
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 4: remember being really excited about that second round pick in

1936
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 4: tipp It again Hall of Famer. You know, I got

1937
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 4: it easy, but only because of how people were talking

1938
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 4: about him leading into it. I didn't, you know, as

1939
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 4: a high I was that like eighty four, eighty no,

1940
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 4: eighty two, maybe eighty two. I think it was eighty two.

1941
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 4: So I was, like I was entering my freshman year

1942
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 4: of high school. I didn't watch Iowa football, right, I

1943
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 4: didn't know Andre Tippet. I just was reading about him

1944
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 4: and getting excited, you know.

1945
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 3: Experience out of us.

1946
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 12: Because I was I was a capital, but like I

1947
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 12: knew his name and he was kind of the face

1948
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 12: of big defensive college football at that time. And Ted

1949
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 12: Johnson too. I remember when they drafted Ted Johnson being

1950
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 12: I was like linebackers, and I thought that was, you know,

1951
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 12: my favorite position, and he just that Teddy J.

1952
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 4: Just ty Law, Ted Johnson, Curtis Martin.

1953
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it's weird. I remember that draft, like, and

1954
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 12: it was Tyler looked like such the prototypical I love

1955
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 12: my Meg friend, such the prototypical cornerback. Like to me,

1956
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 12: was he up there twenty four something? I mean, just

1957
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 12: look at him like he is. That that's just like

1958
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 12: if you want to design what a cornerbacksually look like

1959
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 12: that I really I really liked.

1960
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 3: And Teddy J.

1961
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 12: Was the same way as a linebacker, like just this big,

1962
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 12: giant guy. And then I remember Curtis Martin being like

1963
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 12: third rounder like this for some reason that draft. Really

1964
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 12: he had the same.

1965
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 4: That's why he was the third round. And then I

1966
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 4: remember watching the year before that Freddie brought up was

1967
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 4: considered to be like that kind of all around linebacker. Yeah,

1968
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 4: there was excitement on me plus about USC.

1969
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 3: Is anyone wearing fifty five these days? I don't think so.

1970
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 3: I was watching the game. I didn't anyone.

1971
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 12: I thought it isn't that their number.

1972
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 4: That they retired? But did they retire it because of Junior?

1973
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 17: Say?

1974
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 3: I was death? Oh, I don't know.

1975
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 4: I don't.

1976
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 3: I don't either, I don't, but I know that if

1977
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 3: you've got to wear fifty.

1978
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 4: Five and where the guy that's forty four with Syracuse? Yeah,

1979
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 4: what else you's got eighteen?

1980
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I can't I think in honor of say Oh,

1981
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 3: you would keep it out there.

1982
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 4: I just speculating if you didn't see it, I'm wondering

1983
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 4: if sure.

1984
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 3: We have a USC fan out we have everything else? Yeah,

1985
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 3: John Wright saying, he says, I want to apologize to

1986
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 3: Paul Freddie read my email about defending poke in more

1987
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: of an angry tone. Shot. I know Polke's comment about

1988
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 3: the media was during training camp. I'm just a fan

1989
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 3: of the guy and feel he will bounce back, which

1990
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 3: you guys stated after I emailed in.

1991
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I said that beforehand. That's the only thing

1992
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 4: that I took exception to it.

1993
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 3: He said, I am leader of die PEPSI on him.

1994
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 4: I am not out on Polk, And I said that

1995
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 4: before like I was, I'm disappointed in Polk. That's not

1996
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 4: you know, it's I sound like a father, like it's

1997
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 4: not the same thing. I'm not out on Polk like

1998
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 4: I just I and I think that there's some of

1999
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 4: some of the problems that I've seen so far aren't

2000
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 4: about ability. Yeah, it's about sort of a mindset. Yeah,

2001
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 4: you know, I got to get more focused, not getting

2002
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 4: thrown off, like Girod said today, like you know which,

2003
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 4: but more discipline.

2004
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 12: More which which makes it more interesting him trying to

2005
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 12: snap out of it because you feel.

2006
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 4: Like it might be you know, like I said, I

2007
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 4: wouldn't to see him catch five balls on Sunday for

2008
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 4: like seventy five yards. I wouldn't shock me at all.

2009
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 4: I'm not calling for it, but I yep, you know,

2010
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 4: I can. I can see Fred Collen in the post game.

2011
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 4: We do you think a pulk now?

2012
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 7: Right?

2013
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 3: Alec and Berlin. Fred did the shorts come off on

2014
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 3: the first, second or third touchdown.

2015
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 4: No, it was shirt sure and he lost a button,

2016
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 4: but he didn't really say. I mean they went down

2017
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 4: twenty at the time, so he didn't really go off.

2018
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 3: I was showing clean, but I didn't I didn't go

2019
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 3: all out.

2020
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 4: It was really the kid in the front row of

2021
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 4: the press box that on the pants off on the

2022
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:00,919
Speaker 4: pick market Jones's interception.

2023
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 12: He was like, whoa, I haven't seen that before. Arms

2024
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 12: going up in the air.

2025
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 4: Young fella.

2026
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 3: My great for Drake a solid B, but I could

2027
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 3: go as high as an A minus. He threw three touchdown.

2028
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 4: Pass ignored all the bad place you could do that.

2029
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,719
Speaker 3: He threw three touchdown passes behind a Patrick O' line

2030
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 3: that would make Betsy Ross blush. Badard has seen no

2031
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 3: change between North Carolina Drake and his current development. Isn't

2032
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 3: he the same guy who thought nothing of Gronk?

2033
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,719
Speaker 4: That is correct, But I would agree with that assessment.

2034
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 4: Everything that I saw Sunday I saw in North Carolina.

2035
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 4: That's what I don't understand. Why so many people, why is.

2036
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 3: That a bad thing? He was drafted three overall.

2037
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 4: Thank you, Fred Kirsh. You know, like people ask me

2038
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 4: like Did he exceed your expectations? Did he fall short?

2039
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 4: I was like, no, like he was. That's I saw

2040
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 4: this all summer, right. I know we can run around.

2041
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 4: I know we could throw the ball downfield. I know

2042
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 4: sometimes he sprays it a little bit, like we saw

2043
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 4: it all.

2044
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 12: I'd say one thing, and and I said, on the

2045
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 12: rad of this morning, we didn't really see the huh

2046
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 12: huh the double pump like that. And I thought that

2047
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 12: was something the summer that was pretty consistent.

2048
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 4: I think you saw that on the strip, Sack.

2049
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 12: I have to look at it again.

2050
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 4: The only thing, the only difference is it's not training camp.

2051
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 4: So someone hit a hit on the double pump. Evan

2052
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 4: actually brought that up yesterday. But no, I would agree

2053
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 4: with you, like I saw a lot of good things

2054
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 4: that there's a Fred just nailed it.

2055
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 12: Like that's why is the third old bit?

2056
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 4: Saying that he looked like the North Carolina Drake May

2057
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 4: is not an insult. The North Carolina Drake May allowed

2058
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 4: him to be the third overall pick in.

2059
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 3: The draft, exactly right.

2060
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 12: And if you didn't, and I don't take that of

2061
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 12: an insult, right.

2062
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 4: I thought he made a lot of really good plays

2063
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,600
Speaker 4: at North Carolina and there were some things that he

2064
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 4: needs to work on because he tries to do too much.

2065
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 3: But you know, I listened to that. Why I heard

2066
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,839
Speaker 3: snippets of the Badard thing on your show, Paul.

2067
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 4: I missed this.

2068
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 3: Evan had twelve positive plays and nine negative plays for May,

2069
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 3: but Dard had eleven seventeen negative, but eleven positive, eleven positive.

2070
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for listening yesterday. Yeah, when I gave those numbers,

2071
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 4: so you did, and that's why I was curious to

2072
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 4: see what Evan had for negatives. He only had nine

2073
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 4: non negative nine yeah. Yeah, So I think there's probably

2074
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 4: somewhere in the middle of that. Seventeen seems high nineteens.

2075
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 3: What's what's the positive and what's the negative play?

2076
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 4: That's a subjective, but they were both basically the eleven twelve.

2077
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 4: They were both basically the same on positive. That's a

2078
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 4: pretty big gap on negative. Yeah, So my guess is

2079
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 4: it was somewhere in between. And my guess is Evan

2080
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 4: didn't count them all.

2081
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 3: And my guess is, but you know, his eyes went

2082
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 3: left and they should have went right. Correct put too

2083
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,560
Speaker 3: much on him. Yeah, Market Fall, River Rights and I

2084
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 3: was away this weekend, didn't get to watch the game live.

2085
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 3: I tried my best to not read or see too

2086
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 3: much about Drake's performance before I was able to watch

2087
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 3: the game last night, so my opinion wasn't influenced by

2088
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 3: what others were saying. The few things I saw were

2089
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 3: very complimentary of may imagine my surprise when I actually

2090
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 3: watched the game. It's okay, I thought to myself, I'll

2091
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 3: listen to the postgame show for some good analysis. It

2092
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 3: took about forty three minutes, but Paul finally showed up.

2093
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm in general agreement that there were some positives, but

2094
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 3: you would have thought the guy just had a great game.

2095
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 3: Judging by the local reaction. I'm as excited as everyone else,

2096
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 3: but I'm also appreciative that I can turn to Patriots

2097
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 3: dot com and get level headed analysis and occasionally Fred

2098
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 3: being a homer.

2099
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 4: So do I get any points for going forty three minutes?

2100
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 4: That's pretty good for me. That's pretty good for me.

2101
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 4: But I would say that the local react. I think

2102
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 4: he's right about the local reaction, but I don't really

2103
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 4: care about that. I only care about how I thought

2104
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 4: Drake may looked, and I am really excited about how

2105
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 4: he looked I saw a lot of bad stuff too,

2106
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 4: but I'm really excited about the good stuff I have that.

2107
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 12: Fair, Yeah, I think it's fair. I mean it's a

2108
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 12: rookie quarterback, the position you need most, the thing you've

2109
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 12: been searching for all your life, you know here since

2110
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 12: Tom Brady left, and you come out of that and

2111
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,759
Speaker 12: you like, forget about the game. You just my feeling

2112
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 12: is we might have the guy. We might have the guy,

2113
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 12: And that, to me was the biggest takeaway.

2114
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 4: But do you feel like better that you might have

2115
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 4: the guy than you did before the game, because I don't.

2116
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 4: I feel exactly the same.

2117
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 3: I'm I am. I was just relieved that it wasn't

2118
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:19,879
Speaker 3: a disaster.

2119
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 4: See I didn't. I must be overlooking. Maybe I'm guilty

2120
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 4: of whistling past the graveyard, but which I often accuse

2121
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 4: everybody else. Listen, I did not think that was even

2122
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:30,719
Speaker 4: going to be a remote chance.

2123
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 3: No, But but I listened. I shouldn't be swayed by

2124
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 3: what I hear. But like I had six weeks of

2125
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 3: telling of people telling us you can't start.

2126
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 12: Up this year.

2127
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 3: He was gonna get killed, blah blah blah, and it

2128
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 3: was anything but that. And I was just relieved to

2129
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 3: see that.

2130
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 12: You know, it was that proof of concept.

2131
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 3: I shouldn't listen to all I shouldn't have listened all

2132
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 3: that crap, because again, I was someone who wanted him

2133
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 3: to start Week one.

2134
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but you know, I shouldn't say like

2135
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,799
Speaker 4: I had Zi, like I had like like one percent

2136
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 4: like it. It can always be a disaster, Like the

2137
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 4: first half of the game was kind of a disaster.

2138
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 3: Well but it was, yeah, but right, I mean, they

2139
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 3: weren't producing, but you.

2140
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 4: Know, and he wasn't producing, like don't turn this into

2141
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 4: like he's the quarterback of the offense at it. And

2142
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 4: they didn't move the ball really at all until it

2143
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 4: was twenty seven to seven. They had one drive when

2144
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 4: it was twenty seven, you know, thus the seven. But

2145
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 4: I again, I think it's fair to say he was

2146
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 4: getting his feet wet, he settled himself down. I think

2147
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 4: listening to him and Mike was there, but I listened

2148
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 4: to him during our break, Yeah, like responding to adversity.

2149
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 4: You know, I missed Pop on the early play. You know,

2150
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 4: those are positive signs. I think he got better as

2151
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 4: the game went on. Yeah, I think that you can say,

2152
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 4: like I wasn't overly surprised with how you know, how

2153
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 4: he performed. It can come off as a negative. I

2154
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 4: said this to Mike when we tap we taped all Access.

2155
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Speaker 4: I said it to Mike Reese. We were asked that

2156
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 4: better and I was like, no, it's about what I thought.

2157
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 4: He goes to me he exceeded expectations, and I interrupted him.

2158
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 4: I said, but you obviously didn't think as much of

2159
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,480
Speaker 4: him as I did. That's why he didn't exceed my expectations.

2160
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 3: Well for the Irish game, three touches, I didn't think

2161
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 3: in his first game he'd had three touches.

2162
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 4: Can we not get lost with the three touchdowns? No,

2163
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 4: I think like when two of them were when they

2164
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:26,719
Speaker 4: were down by twenty point.

2165
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Speaker 3: Where when they happened he threw for three touchdown.

2166
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is he threw for two hundred

2167
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 4: and forty yards. The offense really didn't move the ball

2168
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 4: consistently at all during the game. That's what young quarterbacks do.

2169
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 4: Like that was a Gardner Minshew performance.

2170
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 3: I know, but it was his first game coming in

2171
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 3: in Week six.

2172
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 4: All the negative eye, I'm just think I think more

2173
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 4: of them than a lot of other people do. I

2174
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 4: would have taken him over Jayden Daniels. I've said that

2175
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 4: at the time, I say it now and I still

2176
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 4: and I still say it. I think more of May

2177
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 4: than some other people that thought he was going to

2178
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 4: go out there and turn the ball over seven times,

2179
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 4: because I didn't think that was going to happen.

2180
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 12: I don't think that you think more of him than

2181
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 12: me than you.

2182
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 4: I well, not than you, you know.

2183
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 12: And I know it's an interesting question though when you asked,

2184
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 12: because I've really I've been thinking about here for the

2185
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 12: last second, like did I what did I think? And

2186
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 12: I honestly just think I needed to see it in

2187
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 12: a game to truly believe it. That's fair, you know,

2188
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 12: That's That's what I knew. It was there, and we

2189
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 12: saw it a lot. But I've also seen some guys

2190
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 12: pop out on the practice fields and training camp fields

2191
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 12: and you get onto the game.

2192
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 4: Field, and you know what else I think could happen? Mike,

2193
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 4: you know, And I think Mike and I are pretty

2194
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 4: much aligned with with Drake May. Evan is on Planet Zippy.

2195
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 4: He doesn't like Mike and I I think are in

2196
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 4: a different level than than than Evan. But I don't

2197
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 4: rule out that game that you're talking about. I don't

2198
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if it's probably gonna happen

2199
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 4: in one of these eleven games, Like we're like, oh

2200
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,560
Speaker 4: my god, Like he just turned around and through it

2201
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 4: right to the guy, like some of that stuff.

2202
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 12: They all do it right, the right defensive coordinator gets

2203
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 12: a beat on what they're doing and step ahead.

2204
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 3: And like Paul said, they're going to start playing him differently.

2205
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 4: They're gonna but and he's not gonna play as well

2206
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 4: in one of these games, you know, like that. I

2207
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,919
Speaker 4: I just think, I think this guy is really talented.

2208
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to say I'm the only one.

2209
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 4: A lot of people think he's really good. A lot

2210
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 4: of people just think he needs time to develop. And

2211
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 4: I am in that camp too, And.

2212
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:23,839
Speaker 3: The development started on Sunday.

2213
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 4: And that's why I think it was the right move

2214
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 4: to play him, and it will be the right move

2215
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 4: to continue to play him. But I'm not like deceiving

2216
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 4: myself into thinking it's only going to get better every game. No,

2217
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:35,719
Speaker 4: there's gonna be there's gonna.

2218
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 12: Be peaks and valleys getting over.

2219
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 4: But Caleb Williams, you know, the first game he played

2220
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 4: was not really good. They won, but he did just

2221
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 4: enough to win the game, and mostly it was defense

2222
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 4: and special teams and stuff. But you watch him six

2223
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 4: weeks later, and he looks like a whole different guy.

2224
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 3: Right, And that's what you hope, progression, that's what you

2225
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 3: hope because he's.

2226
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 4: Like incredibly talented.

2227
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Calabuoyant.

2228
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 12: I think that's why I'm excited this week. Just I've

2229
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:05,759
Speaker 12: been re energized with watching the rest of the season

2230
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 12: and it's.

2231
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 4: Just me too. You know.

2232
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 12: The old offense, it was like here we go get

2233
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 12: you know, the same kind of thing. But now it's

2234
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 12: anything's on the table, and even if the game ain't

2235
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 12: going great, like you know that there's always a chance

2236
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 12: that he's going to make a play all of a

2237
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:16,600
Speaker 12: sudden that makes you you know.

2238
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 3: We have a vested interest in the game now, yeah,

2239
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 3: you know, like there's something that tangible that we need

2240
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 3: to monitor.

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01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 4: But I do think, like you know, back to the

2242
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 4: email's original point, and I like Mark Bertrand who I love,

2243
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 4: you know, and I do like pregame shows with him,

2244
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 4: The Beatle on one of my shows, you know, he

2245
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,719
Speaker 4: took like a victory lap on Monday, Like I told

2246
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 4: you I told you, like you told me what you

2247
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 4: told me that they could lose by twenty points if

2248
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 4: they put the rookie. You told me that they could

2249
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 4: turn the ball over four times if they put the rookie. Like,

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01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 4: don't just tell me that he could throw a forty

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01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 4: yard touchdown pass. Yeah, Like, that's not all that happened

2252
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 4: on Sunday. Like to the emailer's point, that's what it

2253
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 4: kind of sounds like. But listening to the analysis around here,

2254
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 4: it's funny. But except for my show that I'm gonna

2255
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 4: go and do in about an hour, where Felger is

2256
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:13,639
Speaker 4: just like completely pulling a Fred Kurt. He's taken. He's

2257
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 4: not only moved the goalposts, he's disassembling them and putting

2258
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 4: him in another stadium. Now, this is not what this

2259
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 4: is not. This is what you people want it. You

2260
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 4: just want the quarterback to go out there and play.

2261
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you lose by twenty boo, who Like,

2262
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 4: why did Mike Felger become the person who taught us

2263
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 4: all that we should want to win and not lose?

2264
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 4: Right Like you talk about the straw man argument, he's

2265
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,839
Speaker 4: arguing with people, Oh, I can't wait for this afternoon,

2266
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 4: trying to pretend that we're happy that they lost forty

2267
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:49,759
Speaker 4: one to twenty one. Like, see, this is what happens.

2268
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 4: This is you'd be one of those teams draft being about,

2269
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 4: you know, tank draft, tank draft. That's what we want,

2270
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 4: That's what everybody's looking for. No one wants to win

2271
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 4: any games except for Mike Felger. That's great, who understands

2272
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 4: the importance of trying to win.

2273
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 12: You use this, You should use this on the show.

2274
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 3: John and La writes in I was one of the

2275
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 3: fans who came away happy from Sunday's twenty point loss

2276
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 3: to the Texans. This season is about development, and while

2277
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 3: May's performance can't be called great, the moments of greatness

2278
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 3: were really encouraging. Watching him learn the craft of quarterback

2279
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 3: play is exciting and I look forward to more, while

2280
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 3: acknowledging that there will also be more frustrating rookie moments

2281
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 3: as well. One more quick thing, I assume that there

2282
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,600
Speaker 3: was a time in the NFL's past where a quarterback's

2283
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:40,679
Speaker 3: willingness or even desire to run around and make plays

2284
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 3: off platform as opposed to staying in the pocket and

2285
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 3: on script led to teams not drafting the player or

2286
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 3: coaching it out of him, or simply not playing it.

2287
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 3: If that's true, can you think of any former NFL

2288
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 3: quarterbacks who were perhaps ahead of their time or had

2289
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 3: a skill set that was deemed not disciplined enough for

2290
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 3: the league. If so, can someone at Patriots dot com

2291
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 3: write an article on it, Michael Bishop.

2292
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to pass on the writing the article on it.

2293
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 4: But Roger Staubach, Tom Landry despised him when he got there,

2294
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 4: and that's why he kept splitting him with Craig Morton.

2295
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 4: You can't do it that way. You got to run

2296
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 4: the play, stay in the pocket, blah blah blah blah blah.

2297
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 4: And then finally he was just so good.

2298
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 3: That was Frank talking to them.

2299
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 4: They moved on. I don't know if he got the

2300
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 4: pushback from Bud Grant like Tom Landry gave Stabach, But possibly.

2301
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 3: Was Michael Vick ahead of his time or was he

2302
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 3: there were a lot of other guys like that kind

2303
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 3: of I don't know. What about Randall Cunningham's a good question.

2304
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 4: I think Cunningham would be like Michael Vick, and he

2305
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 4: was before Vick.

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01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, I said, Michael Bishop, I was joking.

2307
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 4: We heard you the first time. I ignored it.

2308
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,839
Speaker 3: But it's a good question, a little bit of a scase.

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01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 3: There probably was a time where you know, I'm telling you,

2310
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 3: guy leaving the pocket was frowned upon.

2311
01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 4: Early seventies Cowboys. Landry was adamantly on Stabuch for not

2312
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 4: doing what he's supposed to do, and that's why he

2313
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 4: was reluctant to turn the offense overall. And then finally

2314
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 4: he was just so good that they just said, Okay,

2315
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to live with some of this unconventional play.

2316
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 12: What was the contrast like when you guys were watched

2317
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 12: practice between Bledsoe and Michael Bishop.

2318
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 4: Michael Bishop was never a factor.

2319
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 12: No, he never like he never like even like never

2320
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 12: a factor as a Patriots It was back when I

2321
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 12: was a casual.

2322
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:32,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, he ran around. There was a brief second early

2323
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 4: in the two thousand season that Belichick used him in

2324
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 4: a third like a red zone, in a third and

2325
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 4: short package to colossal failure. I remember the Monday night

2326
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 4: game Week two at New York. But you remember that

2327
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 4: he kept coming in and he kept failing, and then

2328
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 4: Bill stopped.

2329
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 3: Doing him of the game. They brought him in to

2330
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 3: throw the hail Mary.

2331
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 4: And he threw a duck. I do remember that that

2332
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 4: was Christmas Eve against Miami. Jed Weaver came out of

2333
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 4: the locker room and howl.

2334
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:00,680
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2335
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 3: They thought the game was over and they called everybody back.

2336
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 4: It was like Jed Wavers got flip the towel thirteen degrees.

2337
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 4: He's out on the field.

2338
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 3: The only thing between him and the game being censored

2339
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 3: was just a stiff wind.

2340
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 4: That's not all that was stiff. Uh.

2341
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 12: But who's working blue? Now let's go to well.

2342
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 3: What's up William thry Bred?

2343
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 6: How you doing all right?

2344
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 13: All right?

2345
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:28,639
Speaker 8: Well, how you doing Paul?

2346
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 4: And uh, well, what's up?

2347
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 3: Appreciate you all right?

2348
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 2: Now question football, Paul, do you agree with the fact

2349
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 2: that with all the neees that the page's knee you know,

2350
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 2: as far as offensive line, I know, wide receiver just

2351
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 2: the main, but an edge rusher too. But do you

2352
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 2: also put maybe running back and sneaking corner is definitely

2353
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 2: they need another corner and also free stafety too. Do

2354
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 2: you agree with the assessment.

2355
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 4: I would say corner definitely.

2356
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 12: J Jones the free agent, yeah, and my big.

2357
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 4: On the edge rusher, I agree with that. Free safety

2358
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 4: kind of a sneaky need. I don't really think they

2359
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 4: have anybody that feels that.

2360
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 11: Now.

2361
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 4: I think they're fine with Douggers, Dugger and Peppers, but

2362
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 4: who knows about Pepper's future, Like, I don't know how

2363
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 4: that's going to unfold. So I don't think running back

2364
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 4: is a sneaky need. I think that they just resigned.

2365
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 12: Three year deal.

2366
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: Now.

2367
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 4: I think that they could they could add to the

2368
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 4: room a little bit so they have more options. So

2369
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 4: if one guy gets hurt, you're not kind of stuck

2370
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 4: like you were on Sunday.

2371
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 12: But we like our guy too, tryl Jennings, so maybe he,

2372
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 12: you know, sticks around for another year and develops a

2373
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 12: little bit. Sure, I wouldn't put running back a top

2374
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 12: the list.

2375
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 4: No' well, I mean behind all those other spots.

2376
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 12: I mean a lot of the offense is going to

2377
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 12: come back. I mean that's you know, they I think

2378
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 12: that the offense is just select left tackle, big, you know,

2379
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 12: explosive X receiver, those two pieces and every just about

2380
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 12: anything else.

2381
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 4: I think it's tight end. I think is in need.

2382
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:54,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you can hunter, you know, mostly with you.

2383
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 4: Get another year or so out of hendry. I don't

2384
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 4: know what you're going to get out of Hooper finally

2385
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 4: beyond this year, he's one year deal.

2386
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 2: Okay, I just had one more and that's it.

2387
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 7: Uh.

2388
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 2: And this is this is to Elliot Wolf and uh,

2389
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:13,560
Speaker 2: the scouts and everybody. This might be a little controversial,

2390
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,640
Speaker 2: but I really don't care. I know this is a

2391
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 2: I know this is Ellie Wolf first, this first season.

2392
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 2: I get it, you know, but at some point y'all

2393
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 2: knew y'all was drafting the quarterback and I just I

2394
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 2: don't know. I never was feeling free agency. I mean,

2395
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 2: as far as the off season, I just just the

2396
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 2: rebuild and everything, and you know, and like you just

2397
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 2: always say every year, you gotta build through the draft.

2398
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 2: You gotta hit on these players, you know what I mean.

2399
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:41,320
Speaker 2: And this build is taking so long.

2400
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 9: You know, I guess we'll build.

2401
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:44,640
Speaker 2: It took a couple of years with it, and now

2402
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 2: you got Ellien Wolf. But I just want to say, like, look,

2403
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,879
Speaker 2: y'all gotta do better this offseason because you stink, seriously

2404
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 2: and you're kind of pissing me off. Serious, And I

2405
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:58,719
Speaker 2: watched this every year. It's the thing induced be telling

2406
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 2: y'all got to bill through the draft. You got him

2407
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 2: the players and free in Cy too. You definitely have

2408
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 2: to There's nothing wrong with maybe two three plays. That's it.

2409
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying go Blomkers and feet, but you know,

2410
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 2: just something better than Austin Hooper and kJ Owa. I

2411
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,600
Speaker 2: mean no dispect to those guys, but man, look you

2412
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 2: need some more.

2413
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 9: So you need some some some dogs up in here.

2414
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 2: You know you need to need better. You just need

2415
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 2: you just need better, you.

2416
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 3: Know than William. I will get the message up to Elliott.

2417
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 3: Thank you well, Im and Philip. I'm happy.

2418
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 12: I just say real quick, I mean, at this particular

2419
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 12: moment in time, and it definitely can change the draft class.

2420
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 12: After Drake doesn't look great, it doesn't look great. It's early,

2421
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 12: but at this particular moment in time, folks kind of down.

2422
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,759
Speaker 12: Wallace is hurt, Robinson played and now is not playing.

2423
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 4: And I have to be fair, Baker can't get on

2424
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 4: a lot of times that these things that guys play

2425
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 4: right away and draft classes, you know, vault into oh

2426
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 4: what a great draft, and I'm like, they've played like

2427
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 4: five games. Can we wait a couple of years right

2428
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 4: before we assess it? Which same thing when it doesn't

2429
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 4: look great? Yeah, I like to be consistent, like, yeah,

2430
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 4: we haven't seen really anything out of anybody in the

2431
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 4: draft class yet, but that doesn't mean you won't.

2432
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 3: All right, Evan is back from practice.

2433
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:22,959
Speaker 11: Evan has returned practice. Evan has returned, has returned from practice.

2434
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 3: So a lot of people like Mike's song.

2435
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 4: I got a new song that Mike's got a song

2436
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 4: Mike Mike's trashing.

2437
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 3: One person still likes Evan's song better, but Mike's song

2438
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 3: I think is really going to catch up. You didn't

2439
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 3: hear the New Order. I need to hear it.

2440
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 4: I think they're both excellent.

2441
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Evan, what happened?

2442
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:44,839
Speaker 17: Well Patriots?

2443
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 12: I'm interested. I'm very interested right now, hanging on every word.

2444
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 12: I don't know. I haven't looked at Twitter. I don't people,

2445
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 12: I'm not at all. No, I literally not. I just

2446
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:54,760
Speaker 12: like sometimes you come in and we kind of know

2447
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 12: what it's gonna be, but I'm com coming.

2448
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 17: So there are three players missing from Patriots practicing right

2449
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 17: to the chain. Remandra Stevenson still not practicing, Vaderian Low

2450
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 17: not out at practice with an ankle injury, and Marcus Jones,

2451
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 17: who we are a little uncertain.

2452
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 12: About battling a groin injury.

2453
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 17: Yeah, maybe that's what it is, but yeah, no, Remandre

2454
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,679
Speaker 17: still did see him in the locker room but didn't

2455
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 17: see him out at practice, and Vaderian Low DMEO said

2456
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 17: on Monday he was getting an MRI on the ankle.

2457
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 17: Mike Gilardi has reported that it's more Yeah, it's not

2458
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 17: like a severe injury, they don't think. But at this point,

2459
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 17: and I I've liked what I've seen from Vaderian Low

2460
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 17: when he plays, but he doesn't play very often, so

2461
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 17: that's becoming an issue for him, is staying healthy and

2462
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 17: staying available.

2463
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 4: So leaving tomorrow tomorrow night.

2464
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, so forget it, Just forget it. He's not playing

2465
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 12: you and I with him sneaky to talk about that later.

2466
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 17: I think it's because of the defense. You know, his

2467
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 17: defense isn't playing well. It's just gonna.

2468
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 12: Imagine and don't bring it up.

2469
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:10,679
Speaker 3: So I know you don't get to watch a lot. Yes,

2470
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 3: any indication of who the line, what it would look like.

2471
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 17: No, they had it in a blender again today, which

2472
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:19,640
Speaker 17: I think is for us, to be honest with you,

2473
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 17: I think they're trying to play things a little bit

2474
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 17: close to the vest. But based off of what we

2475
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 17: saw at the end of the game, and I would

2476
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 17: expect that Zach Thomas is probably in line to start

2477
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:33,640
Speaker 17: at left tackle if assuming Venderien Lowe is going to

2478
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 17: be out at least this week. That's the way it's

2479
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,639
Speaker 17: it's trending. I guess they could always flip Trey Jacobs

2480
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 17: back to left tackle and kick on when who back

2481
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 17: outside to write or you know whatever you know formula

2482
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 17: you want to get to in that way. But that

2483
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 17: would be my guess as of today, but it's early

2484
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 17: in the week.

2485
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:54,560
Speaker 4: Maybe you move so into one of the guard spots.

2486
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 12: And I mean, they're an argument to be made though,

2487
01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 12: keep them when you inside, keep the pressure up the middle.

2488
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 12: I know we can help the edges, but they can't

2489
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 12: really help the guards. I don't know that just speculator.

2490
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 3: I think there was an argument to be made for

2491
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:12,919
Speaker 3: that Drake May second week as the starting quarterback. In practice,

2492
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 3: you notice a change in his demeanor.

2493
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 4: Was there an aura around him?

2494
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 17: Yeah, there's always got around him. I mean he's just

2495
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 17: got that.

2496
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 3: Pads today, right, Okay, strong risk game. So they didn't

2497
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 3: have like stickers that said play for May or anything

2498
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 3: like that.

2499
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 4: They did not.

2500
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 12: They did not all the way.

2501
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 17: May I think The interesting thing with him to me

2502
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 17: is he's he's pretty hard on himself, you know, like

2503
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 17: you can tell that he's kind of got that.

2504
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:46,799
Speaker 4: You know, he's got all you guys to just gloss

2505
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:47,799
Speaker 4: over the problems.

2506
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 12: Yeah, seventeen negative plays or nine, Yeah, but.

2507
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 17: Like you try to, you know, we do try to

2508
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 17: accentuate the good things. But a lot of the things

2509
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 17: that he said this morning and continues to say, I

2510
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 17: feel like, is about the things that didn't go so well.

2511
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:04,640
Speaker 17: Like he's more focused on that than he is on

2512
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,839
Speaker 17: you know that that touchdown past the Keshan Boodie.

2513
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 3: You know.

2514
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 17: So I thought that I do like that as well,

2515
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 17: like le us do the gloating for you and you,

2516
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 17: you know, let him focus on getting better.

2517
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so London, you know, they'll be leaving for London.

2518
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:24,520
Speaker 3: Would you say that Gerd had the demeanor of headmaster

2519
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,679
Speaker 3: today or was he more of a coach?

2520
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 17: Well might go to Hogwarts, right, so you know, might

2521
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 17: see that.

2522
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 4: No, I I do think it.

2523
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 17: Guess it's kind of good that he was here for

2524
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 17: Germany last year and understands the travel and the routine

2525
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 17: and the time change and all that kind of stuff,

2526
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 17: because I do think that you have some young guys

2527
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 17: that are in key spots, especially obviously the quarterback, and

2528
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 17: that can that can be a problem, like you know

2529
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 17: if he's uh, you know, thrown off by the time

2530
01:52:56,280 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 17: change or his routine or whatever. So it's seems like

2531
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 17: that's a big focus.

2532
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 3: And uh, you said they were in pads, so we

2533
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 3: got that. In terms of the media, yes, have they

2534
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 3: come down from the euphoria from Sunday yet or are

2535
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:14,559
Speaker 3: they still the twenty? Are they still a glow?

2536
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 4: But it's so.

2537
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 17: I would say that the media contingent is still pretty large.

2538
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 17: It was large again today for Mayo National Folk. I

2539
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 17: didn't see any National Folk.

2540
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 12: Uh BBC was the BBC there?

2541
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 17: Yeah, no NFL networkers. Maybe tomorrow or Friday, you know,

2542
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 17: when we're already in London. But I would say that

2543
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 17: a lot of people are are pretty excited, okay, a

2544
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 17: lot of you know, the contingent has seemed to grow

2545
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 17: since they named him the starter.

2546
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 12: And I wasn't sure after you saw the performance, Yes,

2547
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 12: I wasn't sure.

2548
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 4: I beg your pardon.

2549
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 17: I wasn't sure if today I knew what he was

2550
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 17: doing I wasn't sure if today was going to be

2551
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:58,799
Speaker 17: the same as last week. Last week's the first presser.

2552
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 17: You name him the starter, But there is a good

2553
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 17: amount of people of the contingent.

2554
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,520
Speaker 3: How many would you say, have their own podcast.

2555
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 4: That's good and do anything else?

2556
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:16,639
Speaker 17: All multiple they all have the podcasts.

2557
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 3: And why don't any of them do it in the

2558
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 3: same room. Why are they all on zoom? This is

2559
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 3: I can't stand.

2560
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, you've done a deep time.

2561
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 3: Our guy Hardy. I agree with him one hundred percent.

2562
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 3: He went on a rant about TV shows. You know,

2563
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 3: whether it's ESPN, Manning, the Manning Cast, they're just still

2564
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 3: doing these zoom calls. I've had it with Zoom for

2565
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 3: TV shows. If you're going to do a TV show,

2566
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 3: let's get the production value, get him in the same room,

2567
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 3: or at least make the zoom call flawless.

2568
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 4: I would percent agree. I think the Manning Cast is

2569
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 4: a little different. But like NFL Live, all of these

2570
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 4: shows that they do on ESPN, there's no reason for

2571
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 4: these guys not to be in the student right and

2572
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 4: I don't really understand it. Yeah enough love enough, Like

2573
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 4: the Manning Cast, I get it, like they're you know

2574
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 4: they're going to do it, so they're obviously doing it

2575
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 4: from their homes. Peyton and Eli doing it from their homes,

2576
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 4: and if they're going to get guests every week, it's

2577
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 4: kind of hard to ask, you know, can you come

2578
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 4: to my house so we're all in the same place.

2579
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 4: You know, like, I get it.

2580
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 17: That's a little that's a little bit about like that's

2581
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 17: like you're like hanging out with the Mannings and watching

2582
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 17: the game.

2583
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 4: You know what else has happened to that since someone

2584
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 4: has become a regular guest on it, no one watches it.

2585
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's getting boring.

2586
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 17: I thought because they put Belichick on it.

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01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 12: I just wanted to get can I get Evans to

2588
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 12: take real quick on the on the male thing? There

2589
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 12: will be changes this week. We kind of talked about that.

2590
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 12: Kind of hard to see what the changes are. Just

2591
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 12: curious your thoughts on that.

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01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 17: It's a good point, and you know, obviously the thought

2593
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 17: talk about I look you there's some guys that it's

2594
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 17: maybe an easy cop out to say the offensive line

2595
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 17: is going to change. It's going to be changed.

2596
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 4: Because we know we're going to get a seventh combination.

2597
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 17: So it's gonna mean it's gonna change by default. I

2598
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 17: do wonder if there's a mental break coming for Jalen Polk.

2599
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 17: You know, I'm not saying that he doesn't play at all,

2600
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 17: but yeah, but maybe he's reduced until later in the

2601
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 17: game where if it's you know, more comfortable one way

2602
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 17: or the other, then maybe he plays. Then I do

2603
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 17: wonder a little bit about Raykwa McMillan and just the

2604
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 17: linebacker position in general, Like if ony Taki Talkie is

2605
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 17: ready to play a little bit more this week, maybe

2606
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 17: they give him a look there at linebacker. Maybe it's

2607
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 17: even like a Joe Giles Harris from the practice squad,

2608
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 17: like they have to at some point. I understand it's

2609
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 17: you've got the guys that you got, but you have

2610
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 17: some other options and you got to make some changes.

2611
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 17: If you're giving up, you know, to sixty yard runs,

2612
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 17: like you have to do something about that. So I

2613
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 17: would look there as well as another spot that possibly

2614
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 17: they could do that with. And just in general, like

2615
01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 17: the early down defense, I think could see some changes.

2616
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 4: We're all on board. Well, I was just looking at

2617
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 4: a guy like Jacquelin Roy, who I know nothing about.

2618
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:12,720
Speaker 4: He's played, he's played two games limited snaps in both games.

2619
01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 4: I noticed him and it's not just because he's so big,

2620
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 4: So I wondered, maybe do they try to get some

2621
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 4: more beef, give some help to Godchild up front, who's

2622
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 4: been really critical of his teammates last couple of weeks.

2623
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 4: He's been excellent, he's been really good. So maybe you're

2624
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 4: taking a Quale or a Keon White and you say, listen,

2625
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 4: you guys are good players, but if you're not going

2626
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:36,200
Speaker 4: to play disciplined, because we're talking about discipline, that's what

2627
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 4: Gerardmeo keeps talking about, that's what the run game is like.

2628
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it's something like that, But we really brought

2629
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 4: up Taki Taki, Mike mentioned him, Fred mentioned, you know,

2630
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 4: maybe more Mapu just strictly linebacker as a possibility. Obviously,

2631
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,280
Speaker 4: we talked about us, We talked about Yeah, Mike brought

2632
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 4: up Christian Ellis as a linebacker. Possibly, we brought up

2633
01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 4: the whole thing with Born and Polk. Maybe that's the

2634
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 4: NAT because Born, I think said two weeks ago, it's

2635
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 4: gonna be a ramp up. It's gonna be a ramp

2636
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 4: up ya. Maybe he's more ready now. Anyway, regardless of

2637
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 4: the way Polk has played, maybe Bourne is more ready.

2638
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 14: Well.

2639
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 17: His snaps too with Kendrick Bourne had been first week

2640
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 17: it was twenty five percent. Last week it was fifty.

2641
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 17: So there's like a clear build up going on there

2642
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 17: in terms of his snapcounts. But I like to Jacquelin

2643
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 17: Roy shout because I think he's been really solid and

2644
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 17: he can play a little bit of nose. So you

2645
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 17: allowed gotcha to play a little end, you know, in

2646
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 17: those base fronts too. They've done that. They've kind of

2647
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 17: swapped those guys in, you know where they're at. And

2648
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 17: he's been a problem for Keon White handing the dirt

2649
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 17: defensive end, you know, on first down, it's just not

2650
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 17: his game. Uh, he's got to play outside the tackle,

2651
01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 17: and you know that also has had some issues for

2652
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 17: the team in general. So I look at Keon White

2653
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 17: as a potential guy that we know he's a game wrecker.

2654
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 17: We know he's disruptive, especially on passing downs, but early

2655
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 17: down run defense has been a concern for him too.

2656
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 17: It feels like all their big runs that they've loud,

2657
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 17: Kean White and ray Kwa McMillan are always on the scene,

2658
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 17: Like those two guys are always somewhere within the vicinity

2659
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 17: of where the run hits, and so they got to

2660
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:10,120
Speaker 17: do something about that.

2661
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 3: Chris with a T I a n right, Sin, Mike

2662
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:16,840
Speaker 3: looks like a Bond villain today with his black Nike

2663
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 3: Nike quarter Zip. Do you expect me to talk, mister Bond?

2664
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:23,919
Speaker 3: Expect you to die? Like rip the flesh off Felger's

2665
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 3: bones today, Polly, That's what he says.

2666
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 12: That's what's fun. It must must.

2667
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 17: I listening to your shows on the way home yesterday,

2668
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 17: I didn't care for it.

2669
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 12: No.

2670
01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 4: Oh, I can only imagine how that was bothering you.

2671
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 4: I said, so Mike and I both we were talking.

2672
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:40,160
Speaker 4: I said, Mike and I are pretty similar on Drake May.

2673
01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 4: We both really really like Drake May. I go Evan,

2674
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 4: on the other hand, is on planet Zippy when it

2675
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 4: comes to Drake May like it's our admiration for May

2676
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 4: does not really even come into your realms. Well, I

2677
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 4: think I can only imagine how Felger was bothering you.

2678
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 17: For somebody that and I'm not saying you guys don't

2679
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:58,080
Speaker 17: watch the games either, but for somebody that pours over

2680
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:00,720
Speaker 17: the tape every single Monday from these games to have

2681
02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 17: to watch a quarterback where I actually feel like he is,

2682
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 17: you know, actually go ahead quarterback. I'm just like, this

2683
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 17: is a breath of fresh air. And I'm sorry to

2684
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 17: Felger and everybody else that the fans are actually excited

2685
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 17: that they have a promising young player on the team.

2686
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2687
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 17: Like, I know he's not perfect. I know he made mistakes,

2688
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 17: but we're all excited and that's okay. We're allowed to be.

2689
02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 3: And we still want to win. Can you tell him?

2690
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:29,240
Speaker 4: Let him know that, you know, well, Mike invented the

2691
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 4: idea that if you're a fan of a team, you

2692
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:35,000
Speaker 4: should want it to win, not lose. I just I

2693
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 4: just want to make sure I credit Mike Felger with that,

2694
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:41,680
Speaker 4: because I'd never heard that from anybody else before. He'll

2695
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 4: get mad when I say it.

2696
02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:44,640
Speaker 12: Like that fight fight, all right.

2697
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 3: That's going to be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

2698
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:52,200
Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow at noon. We'll have our picks tomorrow,

2699
02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 3: so we'll have to hurry. Uh. Stay tuned for John

2700
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 3: Rook in the playbook coming up right after this. Until then,

2701
02:00:59,000 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 3: talk to you tomorrow.

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02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:01,840
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02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:05,200
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