1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Look at Our Radio is the radio phonic novela, which 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: is just a very extra way of saying a podcast. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm theos f M and I am malays. Local Radio 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: is your pretty must favorite podcast hosted by us Mala 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: and Diosa, where two I G friends turned podcast partners, 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: breaking down pop culture, feminism, sexual wellness, and offering fresh 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: takes on strending topics through nuanced interviews with up and 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: coming Latin Next creatives known as Lasca, Las Mammy, Submit 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: and Bullshits, Next Store and Lasses. We've been podcasting independently 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: since and we're bringing our radiophonic novela to the Micikura 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Network to continue sharing stories from the Latinox community. Welcome 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: to Local Radio Season seven, Take us to your network. 13 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: Al La Locomotives, Welcome back to Look at Thought Our Radio. 14 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: I'm Diosa and I am Malla. Welcome back to season seven. 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: Take us to your network. We have all kinds of 16 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: things we're gonna talk about on today's episode and we're 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: so happy to be back in studio. Yes, Yes, welcome 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: to eight. And before we get started, we want to 19 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: recap because October was such a busy month for us. 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: We went to New York for the first time as 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: look at Thought our Productions, for a pretty monumental event. 22 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: So let's start talking about it, mama. Yes, we want 23 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: to take you all the way back to last year 24 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: when we got our Time Square billboard as part of 25 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Spotify's Hispanic Heritage Month and like our faces, you guys, 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: a big, giant like full body photo of us in 27 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: the middle of Times Square. We were not able to 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: go see it in person last year because we were 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: so broken sad, we couldn't afford flights. We couldn't make 30 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: the trip. This year, however, as look at Thought our Productions, 31 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: we received word that our original show, Marijuana, a podcast 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: for pod heads, was selected to be part of the 33 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: inaugural class of Gotham Award winners for the audio honors 34 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: that the Gotham Awards is now providing in conjunction with Variety, 35 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: Variety Magazine that is and One Dree Media. So Gotham 36 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Variety and One Dry invited us out to celebrate Marijuana 37 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: and nine other indie podcasts that are making waves in 38 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: the audio space, Sodosa and I. We flew out there. 39 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: We stayed in New York for a few days. We 40 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: went to the Gotham We met all the other honorees 41 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: and it was really really cool, and so we got 42 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: to take marijuana basically to New York and come back 43 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: with an award. And if you want to read about it, 44 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: there are several write ups online from Variety Variety dot 45 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: com if you want to read about the other honorees, 46 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: the awards themselves, how they came to be, and there's 47 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: also a write up in print in the New York 48 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: issue of Variety. Brendan Fraser is on the cover, which 49 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: I was screaming about because George of the Jungle was 50 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: my sexual awakening. So good, such a good movie. So 51 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: all in all, a fantastic time. What did you think 52 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: about it? Yeah? I also want to shout out our 53 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: friends over at bag Ladies because they received a Gotham 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: Award for their show bag Ladies their past guest of 55 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: local radio and have been podcasting for quite a few years, 56 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: been indie for just as long as we have, and 57 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: so to see them get honored was also so incredible. 58 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was so amazing. The like list, the honorees, 59 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: the talent, like the caliber, you know, it was all there, 60 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: so it was so incredible. To see such a range 61 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: two of different shows. So that was exciting and I think, yeah, 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: just too Juxtaples. Like you know, everyone says like your 63 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: life can change in a year, but like I think 64 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: we're really seeing that this year to last year, not 65 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: being able to afford to go in a time square 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: like we were, our business was really just getting off 67 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: the ground formally and we just the budget wasn't there. 68 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: And then to be able to splurge this year, go 69 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: to get receive your award from Marijaneda, to go to 70 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: Broadway and see Funny Girl, to have a really decadent, 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: delicious French meal we try and escargo for the first time. 72 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was delicious, and we just have like 73 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: such a lovely trip. And so I love that for us, 74 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: and it just feels good to be in this season 75 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: of look at that our productions and look at that 76 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: our radio agreed, it's exciting, it's thrilling. There's honestly a 77 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: lot going on. Ever since we signed with I heard, 78 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: things have just taken off. I mean, we can't even 79 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: tell you about the call we took this week. Sorry y'all, 80 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: not to be cryptic again, but there's more. There's more coming. Yeah, 81 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's just it's exciting, like to be 82 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: in like the Harvest season. I love it. And with that, 83 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: we want to invite all of our listeners are O 84 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: G listeners, are new listeners that and and tell y'all 85 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: that we will be having look at a Live a 86 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: Podcast Party this November November nine at Resident in the 87 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: Arts District. It's gonna be fun. We're celebrating our Look 88 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: Adversary six official years a look at our radio wild 89 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: It's so nuts. Is this not our seven? It's our 90 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: sixth year. We're kind of confused now because we're in 91 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: season seven. Usually we've liked the seasons have indicated the years, 92 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: but now we're just a little bit behind the years 93 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: and the seasons are different now, yes, years of podcasting 94 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: in this season now we're on. So yeah, come out 95 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: to look at a Live a Podcast party. All of 96 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: our favorite DJs are going to be playing. We're gonna 97 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: be there. There's two bars, there's a patio. Resident is 98 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: for Friendly. There's a senior fish taco truck. It's a 99 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: cute spot. It's a cool vibe. And if you've never 100 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: attended a Look at Live Podcast party in the past, 101 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: We've been throwing these parties for years now. They're really 102 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: fun and we've had listeners come in from out of 103 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: state look alive who have traveled. We have some listeners 104 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: who have been coming to basically every look at our 105 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: lives since the inception, and others who even show up 106 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: by themselves and meet fellow listeners and make new friends. 107 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: That always happens, love connections are made. It's just a 108 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: magical evening. So come out on November nineteenth at Resident 109 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: d t l A. Yes, hope to see you there. 110 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: So today we're gonna be talking, We're gonna be unpacking 111 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: and discussing Purity culture. Is it back? Did it ever leave? 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: We're going to answer all these questions and more. We 113 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: have some things that we think are examples of purity 114 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: culture coming back in full force at different levels, from 115 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: like the Supreme Court level, the federal level, internationally, culturally, 116 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: on social media, inter personally. So we're going to dive 117 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: into a little bit of each one to kind of 118 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: give a feel of what's the landscape right now right 119 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: And before we get into the current landscape, we want 120 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: to remind you all that last at the top of 121 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: the year for season six, we talked about bimbos and 122 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: the defense of bimbos and how bimbo culture is like 123 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: a very positive thing. It's a progressive thing. It's taking 124 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: your power back for women that are expected to do 125 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: and look a certain way, but really like taking your 126 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: power back. And so encourage how to listen to that 127 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: episode because there were critics of like bimbos and this 128 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: recla reclamation of bimbo, saying that women that are bimbos 129 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: and take on this like persona of a bimbo are 130 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: taking society and women back by decades. But the argument 131 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: is like, well, actually society, the supreme courts or local 132 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: and federal government are doing that anyway. So women addressing 133 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: how they want to dresses and actually doing that. And 134 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: so now we're going to start with the current landscape 135 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: of purity culture and its resurgence, and we want to 136 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: like look at the big picture. It's so easy to 137 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: look at young women and dressing however they're dressing on 138 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: TikTok and blame them for all of society's ills, Like 139 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: we love to do that, but just a woman online 140 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: like posting her photos is not the driving force behind 141 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:22,119 Speaker 1: like repression. That's things like anti trans bills legislation that 142 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: is making going to the bathroom hostile and dangerous for folks, 143 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: that is making seeking out trans healthcare dangerous for folks. 144 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: There's also, of course, like we've been seeing Roe v. Wade, 145 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the very real, 146 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: very violent fall out of that across the board, for 147 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: women of all ages and for anybody who can get pregnant. 148 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: And of course there's also the way that these things 149 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: get carried out like in everyday life, Like we're seeing 150 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: people showing up to drag brunch with rifles, and we're 151 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: seeing examples of young women being like a targeted and 152 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: harassed or even ticketed for wearing quote revealing clothing or 153 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: being quote you know, publicly indecent. So there's just like 154 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to approach the topic, and 155 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: I think it's important like for us to like look 156 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: at the big picture and not just criticize, Like, Okay, 157 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: so there's a TikTok trend, you know, No, we can't 158 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: reduce anything to I think a TikTok trend like we see, 159 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: like TikTok is an example, it's like a micro even 160 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: though it's so big. It's like a micro example of 161 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: like the macro you know, it's like a microcosm of 162 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: like everything else going on. And it's not like it's 163 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: like I feel like now that we're in our in 164 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: our late and early late twenties, early thirties, right, It's 165 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to be like an old head 166 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: that's like TikTok is bad. Like no, hard stop, That's 167 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: definitely not what this is. It's more so like, well, 168 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: now that this is the platform that information is being shared, like, okay, 169 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: how do we look at it critically in the same 170 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: way we've done other social media platforms. Before we dive 171 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: into that, I want us to define purity culture and 172 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: the purity movement that really rose in the nine nineties. 173 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: So according to there's this website called post Purity Healing 174 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: dot com and it's basically survivors of purity culture and 175 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: um that were like evangelical Christians and they survived like 176 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the horrific things that happened to them 177 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: while they were in these different family culture dynamics. And 178 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: so the purity movements sought to get adolescents to comply 179 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: with what they defined as godly sexuality. This is in 180 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: a world of sexual licentiousness. Godly sex can only occur 181 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: within heteronormative marriage. In maintaining one's virginity until marriage and 182 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: transforming oneself to the Bible and Christ in the meantime, 183 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: individuals will have an amazing God ordained marriage. So in 184 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: other words, if you save yourself for marriage, you're going 185 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: to have a good marriage. And in the meantime before 186 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: you're married, dedicate yourself to the Bible and to Christ. Yeah. 187 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: And in maintaining one's virginity, and the only way you 188 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: maintain one's virginity is by strict repression. You can't dress 189 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: like you want to have sex quote, because what does 190 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: that even mean? Um, you can't be flirty. H You 191 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't be wearing extravagant makeup or red lipstick because that's 192 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: a horrors lip a horrsh lip color. Horrsh lip color. 193 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: And then I think, you know, we take even more 194 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: extreme examples of that, and we can look at how 195 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: purity culture is something that I think is forced for violence, 196 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: like in a place like Iran right now, like with 197 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: what we're seeing with women very specifically pushing back against 198 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: covering their hair or maintaining a specific appearance based on 199 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: laws that are very much steeped in purity culture and 200 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: religious extremism. And I think it's something that here in 201 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: the United States we're seeing um beginnings of how a 202 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: society can get to a place like that where yeah, 203 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: we're getting women getting kicked off of planes because of 204 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: what they're wearing. We'll talk about that story in a second. 205 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: Women getting tickets from the police. There was a TikToker 206 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: who talked about getting literally written up by local law 207 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: enforcement because of quote indecent exposure, and it's possible that 208 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: those things can happen here. I mean, we were on 209 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeis recently and something that came up is 210 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: how a lot of fascist violence and racial violence, or 211 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: like right wing violence, like we saw the attack on 212 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: the Pelosi home and on m Your Pelosi and the 213 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: amount of victim shaming and blaming that's come about. How 214 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: it sounds just like rape culture and victim blaming when 215 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: it comes to violence against women, right And we are 216 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: very much capable of that type of violence here in 217 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: the United States. We already see it happening. And I 218 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: think that the this purity culture stuff is like going 219 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: to start just piling on top of itself, and we're 220 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: going to see more examples of like repression, especially against 221 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: women and queer people with our presentation and how we 222 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: dress and how we move about the world. Yeah. Absolutely, 223 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean, and we're also like this is not new 224 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: to us in the sense that we went to Catholic school. 225 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: That kind of repression is taught in the sense that 226 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: you have to wear your skirt a certain length, you 227 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: can't where I make up, your jewelry has to be 228 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: very minimal, all these things, all these rules, no nail polish, 229 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: no nail polish. Especially for me that I went to, 230 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: uh my high school. I went to an all girls school, 231 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: and so really teaching the girls like you have to 232 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: look and dress a certain way, and these are all 233 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: the rules that you have just in order to come 234 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: to school and get your education, You've got to look 235 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: this way. I remember being in the eighth grade in 236 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: religion class, and our religion teacher kind of had a 237 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: big lecture for us. You know, they would separate the genders, 238 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: boys and girls to like talk about sensitive things. So 239 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: it was one of those talks and they loved having 240 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: those talks with us. And there was this one talk 241 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: that will never leave me where this religion teacher was 242 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: telling the girls that we were embarrassing our male classmates 243 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: when we went on field trips because we weren't like 244 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: brushing our hair, or we weren't showing up looking presentable. 245 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: And you know, it's like a lot of we're just kids, 246 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: or there were kids who were very like grungy, or 247 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: they were punks, and even in Catholic school, you find 248 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: ways to like play with your uniform and your look 249 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: right and still be technically within dress code. So the 250 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: girls my year, we were just kind of like everybody 251 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: had their own little style and their own little look. 252 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: But I think that she was being like really like, 253 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: she was being really aggressive towards the girls who were 254 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: more masculine, or who are more sporty, or who were 255 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: less firm, or you know, weren't showing up like looking 256 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: super likes his head, you know what I mean. And 257 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: so she gave us this whole speech about how, quote, 258 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: the boys want to be proud of their women when 259 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: we're out in public and when we're around other schools 260 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: or when we're on field trip. That's so gross because 261 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: you're literally in the eighth grade, and you're already being 262 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: taught like you have to look good because you look 263 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: at the men like you're going to embarrass the men, 264 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: so they always look good for them literally literally. So 265 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: the that like the gender repression, I find that to 266 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: be a type of religious extremism, Like Catholics can be 267 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: very extreme with things, right, and so I'm like, this 268 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: is not something that is far away from us, no, 269 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean and speaking of like, this is something that 270 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I've shared this on the podcast before, 271 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: but I've definitely told Mama about it because this is 272 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: one of those things also in the eighth grade that 273 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: like has stayed with me. And it was my eighth 274 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: grade teacher who later on became the principal and now 275 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: is at the diocese, which is terrifying. And she showed 276 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: us on a Friday. We like had half days on Fridays, 277 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: and I remember the last thing she showed us was 278 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: a slide show about abortion, and it was now looking back, 279 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: it was completely false. It was like mutilated fetuses, you know, 280 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: like things that you see now and you're like, that's 281 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: a doctored photo. That's fake, that's not real, that's not 282 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: medically allowed. That's you know, all these things, right, But 283 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: as you know, when you're in the eighth grade, you're 284 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: like seeing these things and you're horrified and you're like, Okay, 285 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: abortion is wrong. Abortion is bad. And the reason that 286 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: she showed that to us because at the time, all 287 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: the hormones and all of our little bodies were like 288 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: we were all acting out in all these different ways, 289 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: and the girls were sitting on the boys laps, and 290 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: we were rolling up our skirts, and we were sneaking 291 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: on eyeline and all different kinds of things. So her 292 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: way to check us was I'm going to show y'all 293 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: what an aborted fetus looks like. And I remember walking 294 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: out and thinking, I'm pretty sure this is one false 295 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: and to like not allowed, because you know, if if 296 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: our parents had to sign consent forms for biology class 297 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: to learn about a reproductive organs, I'm pretty sure showing 298 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: us aborted fetus is also probably not allowed, right totally, 299 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: you know, And that was one of those things that 300 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: stayed with me, but not in the sense like oh 301 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: my god, abortion is bad, but more so like I 302 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: don't think this is real, you know, and this seems fake, 303 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: and this also seems like so obviously clearly pointed, but 304 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: also like not the way to actually handle you know, 305 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: these preteens that are like feeling maybe feeling attracted to 306 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: each other. I don't think showing them a fake aborted 307 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: fetus photo is the way to do it. No, absolutely not. 308 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: The fearmongering and using just made up ship you know. 309 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: And I think it's good. I see I see a 310 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: little bit of not a little bit. It's good to 311 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: see young people and just critically thinking people pushing back 312 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: against the creeping purity culture that we are seeing again 313 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: not only online but like just in the world, like 314 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: in the landscape. And I think while you have people 315 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: who are sort of in weird ways like falling in line, 316 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: Like there's this whole trad wife tell me about the 317 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: trad wive. So trad wives are like and there's all 318 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: this self identifying and self labeling going on right on 319 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: the internet. I'm a cottage cored trad wife, lineman's wife 320 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: like whatever, and a trade wife is just a traditional life. Yeah. 321 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: So you know there's these accounts and it's a lot 322 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: of white women I will say, who post sort of 323 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: very kind of dreamy, nostalgic content about you know, the 324 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: worst thing that that feminists have ever done was fight 325 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: for the right to work, Like I just want to 326 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: be a stay at home wife and in my garden. 327 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: And that's the whole vibe, right, And it's interesting because 328 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: it's like sort of wrapping up choice for everybody else 329 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: as being a bad thing for this trad wife lifestyle, 330 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: when it's like, it's that abundance of choice that allows 331 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: you to even choose, choose to be a traditional wife 332 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: for yourself. When wives traditionally we're not choosing whether or 333 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: not to be traditional or not. Women couldn't even have 334 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: their own bank account until the nineteen sixties. That was 335 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: not that long ago. Good God, my mom was born 336 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: in fifty five. Like yeah, like girl, the fact that 337 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: you're wearing pants in your trad wife truly, my my 338 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: mom remembers when she was in high school because she 339 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: went came to high school here in the US that 340 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: she remembers when girls were allowed to wear pants. So 341 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: there was she went to school at an era where 342 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: girls were not allowed to wear pants. And this was 343 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: a public school. This is not a Catholic school, public school, 344 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: and it didn't let that long ago. No, your mom 345 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: is not that all no, not a long time ago 346 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: at all. So if it could happen, it's if it's 347 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: already happened, it can happen again. So it's interesting. There's 348 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: more right. I think people are also sort of like 349 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: pushing back in some ways against like the nineties two 350 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: thousand's revival. I think a lot of clothing in the 351 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: past few years has been very sort of I'm not 352 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: going to use the word skimpy, but it's like we're 353 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 1: using minimal fabrics. You know, when we think about our 354 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: fashion nova chene kind of era of like fast fashion 355 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: and dressing, I think it's like minimal clothing. It has 356 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: been really in the past couple of years. Yeah, we 357 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: love minimal clothing. We hardly wear clothes. We're in California, 358 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: we're in l A. I'll never forget when we were 359 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: on the East Coast and the listener said, I've never 360 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: seen you all wear that much clothing. Oh yeah, because 361 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: we went to Williams and it was hilarious, but also like, dang, okay, 362 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're like we're showing skin, you know. Um, 363 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: so that's and so for us, it's like okay, yeah, 364 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: like this is for us, this is what we do, 365 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: but also seeing other sorts of tiktoker's and influencers kind 366 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: of hating and well, I'm chic, clean girl like office attire, 367 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: ballet flats, crew neck, like can we bring that back? 368 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: Like the almond shape, nude manicure and a skin vanilla 369 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: lotic like It's like, okay, I understand you just want 370 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: to be comfortable and just being simple and how you 371 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: have a capsule wardrobe like that's fine, Like you don't, 372 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be that. This other thing is 373 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: trashy and exactly exactly, and that's where the problem is. 374 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: It's like the ms in the in the world. They're 375 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: not calling you a boring basic bitch, but you're over 376 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: here villainizing, you know, calling it trashy, calling a TACKI 377 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: calling a ghetto, all sorts of things. And that's the 378 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: issue here. It's like where like where you're mouse colored whatever, 379 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: where it it's fine and zip it and be quiet, 380 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: like stop close the nude lip. Shut it. Shut the 381 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: nude lip. The nude lip. There's no lip on there, 382 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: no lip for the lord, honey for the lord. So anyways, 383 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: let's let's live, that's all I think. I think. Let's 384 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: let's live, leave us alone, Yes, let us be happy. Yeah, 385 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean and with that like the and also when 386 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: we see it's like us women and men, you know, 387 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: people policing each other, right, that's like so problematic. But 388 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: then when you there's another layer to it or another 389 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 1: level to it, when then you're policed by like an 390 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: agency the state. Right, we're seeing that with ro Versus Wade. 391 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: We're even seeing that on airplanes. Yes, so, our dear 392 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: friend and actress Molina Boba. You have seen her on Hentified, 393 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: You have seen her on Orange is the New Black 394 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: Little America. You have also heard her on Look at 395 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: the Radio in a past episode talking about her HBO 396 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: Max film for Rossa. Molina Bobadia is a prolific tweeter. 397 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: She's on Twitter and not too long ago, she tweeted 398 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: out a story. She was on a flight traveling between 399 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: California and wherever she was filming, and on her flight, 400 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: she noticed that a young woman was being basically verbally 401 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: harassed by the flight attendant was telling the young woman 402 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: that her outfit was inappropriate, that she needed to cover up. 403 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: They handed her like a sweater to put on, and 404 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: Molina and again she tweeted the story out and did 405 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 1: some press on it. Uh. Molina ended up speaking up 406 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: on behalf of that young woman and said something to 407 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: the flight attendant, and then the they kicked Molina off 408 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: the plane and they did not let her fly home. 409 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: And I thought that story was wild. We are seeing 410 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: more and more instances like this pop up. We hear 411 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: about them on Twitter mostly and then there will be 412 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: pressed around it. But this was the first time that 413 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: maybe somebody super close to us or that I know, 414 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: had seen or experience this like in real time, with 415 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: like a consequence like getting kicked off the plane. Yeah, 416 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: And when we traveled to New York, I was I hadn't. 417 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Actually I didn't, and I didn't tell you this, but 418 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: I was actually thinking like, oh my god, like it's 419 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: something like that's going to happen to us on you 420 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Um, because like I did think 421 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: of that story and yeah, I mean it's it's in 422 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: a way then you start to like police yourself, right, like, Okay, 423 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on this plane, so let me not 424 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: wear this little crop top even though I'm flying to 425 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: the Bahamas. Because there's instances like that too, where women 426 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: are leaving the Caribbean, or leaving an island, or leaving 427 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: a tropical place, and so they're wearing shorts, they're wearing 428 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: tank tops, you know, and maybe because their body type 429 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: is a certain way, it's quote inappropriate. And then they're 430 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: being asked to cover up. They're being they're being asked 431 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: off the plane when they refuse, you know, and so 432 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: it's it's bad, it's very bad. So another story this 433 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm referencing an article now from the Independent UK and 434 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: I first saw this story again on TikTok. A woman 435 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: claimed that she got a ticket for indecent exposure while 436 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: wearing a crop top and shorts in a viral TikTok. 437 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: Her name is Casey, her at is Castle one one 438 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: two onto TikTok, and she's from Louisiana, and she shows 439 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: off her outfit and she's just wearing shorts and a 440 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: crop top. Her crop top has sleeves like cap sleeves 441 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: like and it's a crew neck like it's not even 442 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: like that revealing. And she is showing the ticket like 443 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: on camera that three female cops actually wrote up for her. 444 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: They sided her, and they were three women, and I 445 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: think that they were like at a park and like 446 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: there was alcohol and stuff, but she got in trouble 447 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: specifically for indecent exposure. So it's a thing. It's happened ing. 448 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: If you guys see any other instances or examples of this, like, 449 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: send them to us. Um Our email is all at 450 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: look at radio dot com. If you've had an experience 451 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: or you've seen something, head to our website Look at 452 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: our Radio dot com and share with us on our 453 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: speak pipe. You just might hear your voice message played 454 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: on a future episode of Look at Our Radio. And yeah, 455 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: this is just something that we're kind of tracking. Yeah, 456 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean something that I also have seen is also 457 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: and like, this is not necessarily a bad thing, but again, 458 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: if you become like the moral police right where I 459 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: saw this, TikTok. This video of this woman is saying, 460 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: can we stop pretending that casual sex is empowering as women? 461 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: Are we done pretending like hooking up with men or 462 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: being intimate with men who don't respect us and actively 463 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: don't have any announce of a shred of respect or 464 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: care for us is empowering? Are we done pretending like 465 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: that's empowering or even healthy? And she goes on this 466 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: whole like rant about how casual sex is really bad 467 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: and men don't deserve you and all these different things, 468 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, of course there's some truth to that. 469 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: But again, when you start to become the more the 470 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: moral police, you have these high morals and so anyone 471 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: that engages differently is now bad. Yes, that's a problem. 472 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: That's a problem, and I think sometimes we take terms 473 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: and we take them to the extreme. Casual sex can 474 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: mean so many things. It can mean son same with 475 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: like you know, we go going back to like our 476 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: multidimensional hole episode early on. It's like being a hoh 477 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're having a ton of sex with a 478 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 1: ton of different people. It can and more power to you. 479 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: And it can also mean you don't have sex at all, 480 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: but your home is practice and politics, it's more power 481 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: to you also, right, totally, totally, Like casual sex in 482 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: a purity culture framework, which is what we're working under, 483 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: casual sex is anything outside of marriage, even if it's 484 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 1: a long term partner that you live with. You're not 485 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: married in a chure under the eyes of the Lord. 486 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: You're engaging in sinful casual living in sin Where is 487 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: the line exactly? You know, stay out of other people's bedrooms. 488 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: It all comes down to, over and over and over again. 489 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: I for one, have never been able to really engage 490 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: in casual sex because like I get so attached. I'm like, 491 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: I will fall in love with you fair, but I'm like, 492 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: do I do? I wish that I had a casual 493 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: sex streak? Absolutely, you know, but the few times that 494 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: I have engaged with it, I'm always like, so are 495 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: we dating now or what exactly? And so, but I'm 496 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: also like, get it more power to you have your fun, 497 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: be safe practice, safe sex. You consent all of that, 498 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, and so again, like like you said, under 499 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: this framework of purity culture, like anything, if you're not 500 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: saving yourself for marriage, it's bad and the marriage better 501 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: be to to one. If you're a woman, assist head dude, 502 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: and it's like sex is only to procreate, that's it. 503 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: So you can't like pick and choose, you know, are 504 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: you slut shaming purest or not? Or are you a 505 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: liberated how like us? Yes, choose a side. Get with 506 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: the winning team, hole, like come on, come on also 507 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: and with that, you know, because while we were researching 508 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: for this episode, you know again like tying back to 509 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: the victim blaming as I saw this TikTok in the 510 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: sound and it was funny because someone said, can you 511 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: turn this into a sound? Meaning like they want to 512 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: use it too, And the sound was like, be modest, 513 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, act, act correctly, cover your body. Modest is hottest. 514 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: A purity reign is a statement you're saving yourself for marriage. 515 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Your virginity is a gift to your husband on your 516 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: wedding night. Boys will be boys. Brothstraps make them stumble 517 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: too much, skin makes them rape, kiss dating, goodbye, true love. 518 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: Weights and and the worst part of it I didn't listen. 519 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't get through the whole thing. But the worst 520 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: part of it was like tank tops make men rape. 521 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, showing your shoulders makes men rape? Can 522 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: I ask, what is it about the shoulder? Why the 523 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: what is it about the shoulder? From dress codes in 524 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: school and work to this, what is it about the 525 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: shoulders so sexual? I love a shoulder. I love a shoulder. 526 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't. Shoulders are great, Shoulders are beautiful. There's nothing 527 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: wrong with shoulders. Exactly to demonize shoulders, that's how you 528 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: know that. Throw the whole thing away, literally throw it 529 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: all away. Throw the Bible away, through the church away. 530 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: You can quote me, I'll keep my shoulders. Um. Yeah, 531 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: it's too much. I don't like it. Um and it's boring. 532 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: I agree, so you know, tying it back to the 533 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: top of this episode of More Power to Bimbos. Be 534 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: like bimbos, dress like bimbos, do what you want, don't 535 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: and don't put your moral high grounds puritan pure puritanical 536 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: views on other people. Yeah, don't get on TikTok and 537 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: tell me to keep sweet and pray bitch like. Put 538 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: godly makeup on. I will kill you. Please stop it, 539 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: godly makeup on that note, this has been another episode 540 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: of look Radio. Thank you for tuning in. Let us 541 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: know what you think. Maybe this will be a part one. 542 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna I'm sure it'll continue. We are going to 543 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: ride for sleds until the end of time. Will always 544 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: come to the defense of our fellows, bimbos, hoes, malas. 545 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: All right, y'all, we will catch you next time. 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