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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: I am Chadmilman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Draft Day, also known as the most important

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Speaker 1: day in the history of the Chicago Bears franchise. A

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Speaker 1: few short years ago, on Draft Day, huge quarterback top

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Speaker 1: heavy draft, ton of rumors about quarterbacks and whether or

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Speaker 1: not Mac Jones would go number three. Overall, it was

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Speaker 1: a day of breathtaking, news breaking, heart stopping odds moves

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Speaker 1: that included my co host, my companion, my campadre, my

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Speaker 1: BFF professional better Simon Hunter pulling over on the side

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Speaker 1: of the highway driving back from Atlantic City to update

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Speaker 1: us with what he was hearing, and lo and behold,

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Speaker 1: here we are again with QB rumors dominating the top

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Speaker 1: of the market. Let's bring them in eto, So I'm.

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Speaker 2: In Hello, Chad. Yeah, one of my favorite days of

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Speaker 2: the year. Drafted. I honestly love these days.

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Speaker 3: Like even last night trying to go to bed, it's like,

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Speaker 3: even though I have the number one pick, like you

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Speaker 3: do all these things, it's just it's just fun and exciting.

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Speaker 3: It's an exciting day for the stupidest of reasons. Of

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Speaker 3: its just hope. Nothing's happening tomorrow, the's got no games,

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Speaker 3: will be played for months. But it's just if you

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Speaker 3: love hope, which I do. That's all that a draft is.

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Speaker 3: You're literally drafting for the future. You're getting your hope

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Speaker 3: in your dream. So Chad's dream of having a four

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Speaker 3: thousand yard passer could be drafted tonight.

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Speaker 1: Listen, you're one hundred percent right about the hope. And

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Speaker 1: I think anyone who knows me, Matt Mitchell will sit

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Speaker 1: here and nod silently when I say this. There's no

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Speaker 1: one who is more irrationally optimistic than I am. Let

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Speaker 1: me give you a little taste of how nobody is

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Speaker 1: immune to the enthusiasm of draft day. Normally, I go

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Speaker 1: my son getting ready for school. He's sitting on the couch, he's,

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Speaker 1: And every day I woke up, I wake up, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I am ready to attack the day. Today is going

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Speaker 1: to be a great day. We will be great today.

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Speaker 1: We will move the needle today. And every morning I

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Speaker 1: draft day. We have real NFL betting happening today. We're

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Speaker 1: We're going to go through the five ish bets we

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Speaker 1: have agreed on that we love. We will highlight, as

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Speaker 1: mean rumors about the top of the draft are flying

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Speaker 1: right now. Multiple books reporting that the biggest markets are

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about one of your bigger bets

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Speaker 1: and total quarterbacks taken in the first round, one of

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Speaker 2: Hello, who's there? I'm talking rain range telephone range. Somebody

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Speaker 2: say it?

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Speaker 1: Maybe what you do man? What do you hear? It

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Speaker 3: Sharp calls is definitely sharp calls. For three months, It's

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Speaker 3: of dug in on Daniels. I gave out Daniels in February.

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Speaker 3: You know, we did a show the Super Bowl recap.

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Speaker 1: Who.

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Speaker 3: My whole view of it was I didn't think May

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Speaker 3: Feel the same way about ACC quarterbacks, Like, if you

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Speaker 3: So the Daniels, the Daniels, may Thing, Chad, You'd be

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Speaker 3: shocked about it. It dominated my life for about three months,

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Speaker 3: Like I didn't know their owner was this crazy guy.

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Speaker 3: I missed on that hour. This year, I had confidence

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Speaker 2: So I knew right there that the football guys.

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Speaker 3: that was a big deal trying to figure out this

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Speaker 3: be because of outside reasons, right, It's going to be

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Speaker 3: because of football things. So you know Daniels is now

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Speaker 2: I feel the same amount of confidence here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Drake may might be the better prospect, you know,

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Speaker 3: who knows what happens in the future, but I believe

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Speaker 3: right now Daniels is the better prospect and he deserves

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Speaker 3: to be the number two pick, and I put money

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Speaker 3: that was the sharp cause, like, I'm so happy I

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Speaker 3: didn't I didn't give it out the Drake May because

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Speaker 3: three months, and on this show, I stuck with the

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Speaker 3: Daniels pick, and I'm hoping people did bet it because

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Speaker 3: I know people care about, the new drama is the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: right the Drake hold on.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on one thing. It's freaking

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Speaker 1: hard to sit with these decisions for two to three months.

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Speaker 1: It's so different than bet in the NFL season, where

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Speaker 1: it's almost like forty eight seventy two ninety six hours

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Speaker 1: and it's over, right.

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Speaker 2: It's abandoned.

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Speaker 3: You lose, you move on, So lose, yeah, and you

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Speaker 3: move on to the next week.

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Speaker 1: The Daniels thing has been fascinating and it has moved aggressively.

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Speaker 1: There was that little dip recently. He is now at

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Speaker 1: minus one thousand, as you say today, Right now, there

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Speaker 1: Are they targeting JJ McCarthy, Are they targeting Drake May?

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Speaker 3: McCarthy and the peggyback on the sharp calls, and plenty

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Speaker 2: I can't get behind it. I just I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine New England not taking a quarterback there.

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Speaker 3: But like I said, I don't know anything about this

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Speaker 2: He is new to the game.

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Speaker 3: Everything I've heard is that Kraft is taking a step

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean, Like, I don't know how much

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Speaker 3: I believe it. So my viewed of it is Kraft

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Speaker 3: just his tone, everything about his view of Belichick and Brady,

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Speaker 3: this man trading out of this position. So in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: again I've heard tons of different rumors, is they do

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Speaker 3: Like other professionals I talked to, is a quarterback is

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Speaker 2: Is that going to be Jj? Is it going to

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but one of them is going to

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Speaker 3: So to me, my position I've taken is on JJ

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Speaker 2: And do you think they honestly care? People?

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Speaker 3: It's just that's that's career suicide by the general manager

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Speaker 3: not a sure thing in any way, neither is Herbert,

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Speaker 3: but we know Herbert's upside. Like I don't think any

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Speaker 3: they've obviously bet it way earlier than we are at now,

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Speaker 3: And it's really all about New England takes Drake May

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Speaker 3: just again, the Chargers could make that trade with the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Why not drop back at two first round picks and

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Speaker 3: You get the best offense linean you could possibly get,

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Speaker 3: Chargers have major needs. So I agree, I think they

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Speaker 3: doing a favor for an ex quarterback. So yeah, for

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Speaker 3: at pick seven, it makes more sense if a team

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Speaker 3: him being a top five pick. I just I can't,

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Speaker 3: So at plus one hundred and plenty of pros like

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Speaker 3: this bet. They've taken this.

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Speaker 2: Bet over five and a half for JJ McCarthy draft position.

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Speaker 1: He's US three fifty at bet three six five to

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Speaker 3: If the mystery, I mean, think about your bearsteam trade

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Speaker 3: so skeptical of this whole JJ thing, where it's like guys.

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Speaker 3: they're like, no, if you want to get up here,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have to pay a lot. Are you really

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Speaker 3: People have just mocked JJ up there without talking about

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Speaker 2: Why not wait?

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Speaker 3: Like the again, we all wish we could get Josh

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Speaker 2: Chad's right. The market's saying to you that he is

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Speaker 2: I believe there's good value there. It's it's good.

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Speaker 3: On paper, but in actuality, it's really expensive to get

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Speaker 3: the trap number three with New England. Chad's making me

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Speaker 1: What we want to give people a Simon says, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 1: His round one odds have moved from plus one twenty

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Speaker 2: Let's make it.

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Speaker 1: Simon says, Simon says five and a half qbs over

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Speaker 2: When Simon says do it, we do what Sion.

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Speaker 1: Says, give me your logic.

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Speaker 3: I just want to start off by saying, though that

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Speaker 3: it was pluse plus two ninety. If you've been listening

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Speaker 2: So the view of.

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Speaker 3: It here is if the rumors are true, okay, that

438
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Speaker 3: the Vikings love JJ, JJ goes to the Vikings, and

439
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Speaker 3: then we have the Raiders and Denver apparently both winning quarterbacks.

440
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Speaker 3: Like this is the not not a kept secret at

441
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Speaker 3: all in NFL circles. It is out there and it's

442
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Speaker 3: been out there that you can look on paper. Denver

443
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Speaker 3: is one of the worst QB rooms in all football.

444
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Speaker 3: From my standpoint, I've already given my opinion on Denver.

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Speaker 3: I know people don't want to hear this, but you

446
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Speaker 3: have Sean Payton. You tank this season, like who why

447
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Speaker 3: would you want the fifth best quarterback in this draft?

448
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Speaker 3: Just you tank this season. You can get the number

449
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Speaker 3: one quarterback next year. It could be Sanders whoever. I

450
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Speaker 3: just feel like that's the better pathway Denver, because they're

451
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Speaker 3: banking again the fifth best quarterback or six best quarterback

452
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Speaker 3: in this draft that's going to.

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Speaker 2: Take down Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't. It just doesn't make sense to me. You're

455
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Speaker 3: playing the eyes don't really work for me. So that's

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Speaker 3: just from my standpoint, But I do think it's an

457
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Speaker 3: ego thing with Sean Payton. He thinks he's a QB whisper. Okay, guys,

458
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Speaker 3: you respect an industry. They've been mocking Denver to take

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Speaker 3: a quarterback. They've been mocking the Raiders to take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I am also hearing the Rams are in the market

461
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Speaker 3: to go into the first round and take a Panix

462
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Speaker 3: or a Bonnicks or a different type of quarterback if

463
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Speaker 3: they fall in this draft. So yeah, like we love

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Speaker 3: the over four and a half a minus two hundred.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a minus four hundred. I don't want people

466
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Speaker 3: to be betting that. I just don't want you to

467
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Speaker 3: be doing it because it it makes me feel like

468
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Speaker 3: a shit because I have better odds and if we lose,

469
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Speaker 3: it's not gonna hurt me as much as if you're

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Speaker 3: betting four hundred to win one hundred. It's like, I

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Speaker 3: hate those kind of bets, honestly. So if we're looking value,

472
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Speaker 3: hearing a fun bet, either ride with Brandon Anderson take

473
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Speaker 3: the under four and a half, or you're gonna ride

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Speaker 3: with me. Think team's panic? They they again, QB is

475
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Speaker 3: valued are different? Is value differently? It just is in

476
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Speaker 3: the NFL. It really is so I get it, Bonix,

477
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Speaker 3: you don't think you should be a first round pick.

478
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Speaker 3: About every scout anyone I talk to agrees with you,

479
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Speaker 3: people like we all agree. But the NFL teams just

480
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: want to hit on a guy, and it's like it's

481
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Speaker 3: the thing with It's like party. It's like you just

482
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Speaker 3: got to get these guys in the building because you

483
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Speaker 3: don't know how people are going to translate from college

484
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Speaker 3: to this. So that's why quarterback will always be over

485
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Speaker 3: valued in the NFL. So yeah, Simon says, over five

486
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Speaker 3: and a half quarterbacks, take and give it to me

487
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Speaker 3: plus what is it, plus one thirty or I mean

488
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Speaker 3: plus one hundred plus plus two hundred. It's good value

489
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Speaker 3: on a bet that all we need is a team

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Speaker 3: to get desperate trade back into the first round at

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Speaker 3: the end of the draft.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, there's there are some scenarios where it plays out, right,

493
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned Minnesota, you mentioned Denver, you mentioned the Raiders.

494
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Speaker 1: Don't forget the Giants. Don't Giants talks right, like the

495
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Speaker 1: Giants can walk away.

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Speaker 2: Alanta's in the camp for jj.

497
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Speaker 1: At Atlanta's in the camp for Pennix. Yeah, like Pennix

498
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: is the key here. But again, it comes down to

499
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Speaker 1: the Patriots and what are they doing in three Because

500
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Speaker 1: there was another rumor this morning I think it was

501
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Speaker 1: Diana Russini at the Athletic speculating the Patriots could trade

502
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Speaker 1: down and then trade back into the lafirst round to

503
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Speaker 1: grab a quarterback at the end of the first round,

504
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Speaker 1: So which.

505
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Speaker 3: Again I love for them because whoever they take, I

506
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: do think they planned on City for a year.

507
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Speaker 2: They brought in Brussette.

508
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Speaker 3: Again, everyone's making plans, right, It's like a week into

509
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Speaker 3: the camp they could be like, Okay, this guy is

510
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Speaker 3: a thousand times better than Brssett.

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Speaker 2: That could easily change. But that to me is the

512
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Speaker 2: move for them.

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Speaker 3: What Chad just talked about it, it's like if they

514
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Speaker 3: can get more assets and trade down, if they like

515
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Speaker 3: JJ more than Drake and they know they can move

516
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Speaker 3: down and take him at whatever pick ten or eleven,

517
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Speaker 3: I totally agree with you, Chad. I think that would

518
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Speaker 3: be the better move for the Patriots. And like you

519
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Speaker 3: just mentioned all these teams, there's a couple of teams

520
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Speaker 3: and even say it's like there's so many teams in

521
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Speaker 3: the market for quarterback just because it's all about the money.

522
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Speaker 3: Like if you can get out a guy that hits

523
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Speaker 3: like this in a first round, you get him for

524
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Speaker 3: five years. The pal scale, I mean it just went

525
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 3: up thirty million, so the money just keeps going up.

526
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Speaker 3: These rookie quarterbacks hitting has never mattered more. And that's

527
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Speaker 3: why I like again, I mean, me and Chigar have

528
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Speaker 3: the whole off season talk about the Bears. If the

529
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Speaker 3: Bears hit on this on Williams, It's like all the assets,

530
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Speaker 3: all the money, they have, so much there to surround

531
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Speaker 3: this kid with. It's so rare that the ninth or

532
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Speaker 3: tenth worst team has a number one pick, especially a

533
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Speaker 3: generational of talent. So yeah, this is a really fun

534
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Speaker 3: QB class.

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Speaker 1: The enthusiasm in Chicago is so irrational like this always.

536
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Speaker 3: Though guys were irrational with Mitch Trubisky, let alone Williams.

537
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Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's totally true. But like you know,

538
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Speaker 1: I had a buddy text to me from Chicago the

539
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Speaker 1: other day like about the greatness of what's about to happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, do not fucking mush this right now. We

541
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Speaker 1: are not going to see something you ownership ten Williams.

542
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: I said, We're not mushing this until Kayleb Williams has

543
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Speaker 1: more than four thousand passing yards. Wind's Rookie of the

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Speaker 1: the NFL. That anything last and I all feel like

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Speaker 1: It's been a great story. He ran that forty on

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Speaker 1: By the way, don't forget he plays at Washington in Seattle.

571
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Speaker 1: Now his offensive coordinator is now the offensive coordinator for

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573
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574
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Speaker 1: this to go from four and a half to five.

575
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Speaker 1: And then you just need one more group that loves

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Speaker 1: bo Nicks to come in into the back of the

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Speaker 1: into the back of the first round. So very very

578
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Speaker 1: we have committed assignment says to over five and a

595
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Speaker 1: half quarterbacks taken in the first round. When we were

596
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Speaker 1: slacking this morning, you had another bet, and we're going

597
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Speaker 1: to get to the exact decision. We're going to anchor.

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Speaker 1: We're going to anchor the podcast with the exact decision.

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Speaker 1: You had a bet that I thought was really interesting.

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Speaker 1: That speaks to the cast. Six plus trades in round

601
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Speaker 1: one at plus one thirty. We've highlighted already some of

602
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Speaker 1: these trades that we've been talking about. What are the

603
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Speaker 1: Viking's going to do? What are the Patriots going to do?

604
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Speaker 1: What are the Chargers going to do? Right? How did

605
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Speaker 1: you land on this number.

606
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Speaker 3: I love this number for a bunch of reason. The biggest

607
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Speaker 3: one is because of what you just mentioned. It's the

608
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Speaker 3: QB draw if there's a lot of QB drama and

609
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Speaker 3: a lot of moving pieces. I love making these kind

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Speaker 3: of bets. And it's also fun. Who doesn't want trades?

611
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Speaker 3: I want trades and makes the draft fun. Like, uh,

612
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Speaker 3: you know, all the insiders keep talking about the record

613
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Speaker 3: breaking amount of trades that might be happening in this

614
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Speaker 3: first round. So you know the fact that well respected

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Speaker 3: guys like Adam Schefter or you know, Peter Schreer are

616
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Speaker 3: saying that they think this might be the most trades ever.

617
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Speaker 3: I love it like it's it's a bet I like

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Speaker 3: to make. So yeah, I would love to make star

619
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Speaker 3: Fox whole bet just because you know, a lot of

620
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Speaker 3: people don't think there's gonna be that many trades. They

621
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Speaker 3: think that this is just all in the media hype.

622
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Speaker 3: But I agree with what you're New England take. Like,

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Speaker 3: if Newland does make that trade out of three to

624
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Speaker 3: trade down because they want a different quarterback, this is

625
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Speaker 3: a guarantee to hit. Like I if a move happens

626
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Speaker 3: that early, the trickle down is going to be insane

627
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Speaker 3: because they could be moving down to move back up

628
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Speaker 3: and a bunch of different things could happen like that.

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Speaker 2: So I like this number.

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Speaker 3: I think it's too low, and I think they hung

631
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Speaker 3: at this load just because they weren't expecting that many

632
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Speaker 3: trades when they opened this about a month ago, and

633
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: they've just been hit with so much. I mean, you know,

634
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Speaker 3: like man Mitchell just told us it opened up plus

635
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Speaker 3: two hundred, it's now down to plus one thirty. Like

636
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Speaker 3: that's a heavy movement. So I think the books I

637
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Speaker 3: kind of got stuck here where it's like, I don't

638
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Speaker 3: think they expected that much movement because they thought the

639
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Speaker 3: top of the draft was gonna go pretty, you know,

640
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Speaker 3: pretty boring by the books. And you know, the last

641
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks you've gotten closer here. The rumor mill

642
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Speaker 3: has really started where it's like even the Eagles apparently

643
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Speaker 3: want to trade up to get an offensive lineman when

644
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Speaker 3: these top two offensive linemen. I even saw a thing

645
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Speaker 3: about the Jets if they could, they want to somehow

646
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Speaker 3: go from pick eleven to the top ten just because

647
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Speaker 3: they want to get a receiver because they're worried the

648
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Speaker 3: Bears are going to take that third receiver at the

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Speaker 3: pick nine. So the Bears happy to swap a pick

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Speaker 3: right there with the Jets to drop down and take

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Speaker 3: either offensive linement or rocked hours would that pick eleven?

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Speaker 3: Tons of people have mocked and talked about that. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: Chad for Fox, So I love this bet. It's just

654
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: a fun bet. And you know me, anything at a

655
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: plus one thirty or bet like plus one twenty or better,

656
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: I'm a sucker for those if I'm not paying the

657
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: juice for the big I love those kind of moves.

658
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 1: Right now, Tito, super producer Tito is slacking US Patriots, Chargers,

659
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: and Cardinals, three of the top ten that all have

660
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: been rumored to trade. So that's like that three spot.

661
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: You're right, like, this is what makes betting the draft exciting,

662
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: that three spot. Dude. There could be absolute fucking chaos tonight.

663
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: And that's what we like the bettle. We like the

664
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: bet on chaos.

665
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that, you know, That's one of the

666
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: things I want to ask you about. Like, chaos is

667
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: great for a better in this scenario because everyone has

668
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: a plan is Mike Tyson likes to say, until they

669
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: get punched in the face and having someone trade out

670
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: of their position to a rival in the draft in

671
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: your division into a position higher than you. This is

672
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: when gms make their money. Can they keep their cool?

673
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: Can they see the board as it exists? Can they

674
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: see the board as it's going to exist? Can they

675
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: think about how they're going to move the chess pieces

676
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: and what they need and not chase shiny objects? Right?

677
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: We talk about this all the time, even like when

678
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: deciding what content strategies we want to chase, right, and

679
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: like who do we want to hire? And how do

680
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: you not overspend and how do you not overinvest on

681
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: a trend? Like gms are not immune to this stuff.

682
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: They are going to freak out in the Patriots trade

683
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: out at number three, or of Howie Roseman gets the

684
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles into the top ten, Like people are going

685
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: to be losing their shit and trading like crazy, Oh

686
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: my god, it's so good.

687
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: And GM's are petty like speaking about how he these

688
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: past five years?

689
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: So Dallas Godder who if you don't know who he is,

690
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: he's the Egles tight end the Cowboys.

691
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: Jason Winn had just retired and it was rumored that

692
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: he really wanted to go to Dallas and Dallas Cowboys

693
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: wanted Dallas Goddard. Howie Roseman traded up a pick before

694
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: them took Dallas Goddard. Two seasons later, the Giants are

695
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: sitting there at their pick eleven. Chad knows this, Who

696
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: did they want Davonte Smith? What do the Eagles do?

697
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: They traded up to the tenth pick or I get

698
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: I think they I forget what they exactly what they did,

699
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: but they basically maneuvered inhead of.

700
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: The Giants and took Devonte Smith, like just.

701
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: Again trading in front of a divisional rival because they

702
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: had gotten info that that's where they're gonna take. And

703
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: obviously it's worked out from so Chad's right, like different

704
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: teams will make different moves to get into the first

705
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 3: round because they're trying to either block other teams or

706
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: just they're scared that guys be gone. So yeah, to me,

707
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: this number is way way too low. I thought it

708
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: would be closer to seven.

709
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 2: Seven and a half.

710
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: Another bet that we've discussed and is Joe All over

711
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: seven and a half. Joe All one of the best

712
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: offensive linemen greater in the draft over seven and a

713
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: half at plus three hundred. I was surprised this number

714
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: was as high as it was because I think the

715
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: Chargers at five are probably a great landing spot for him.

716
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: So if you're betting this, which you like this, you're

717
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: basically also betting it correlates right, because you're then betting

718
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: that the Chargers trade out of that position potentially to

719
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: a team that needs a quarterback, which means that the

720
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: next couple teams are not likely to draft Joe All

721
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: because they need different positions. So you're betting on Joe

722
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: All potentially going to someone like the Bears. Is that

723
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: the logic here.

724
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: A little bit?

725
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: The big fear for him, The reason at seven and

726
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: a half is Tennessee sitting in the seventh spot. So

727
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 3: most professionals I've talked to, especially the last two weeks,

728
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: their view of the Chargers where the Chargers are either

729
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: going to trade out or they were going to go defense.

730
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 3: And most people are like, no, Chargers are going Joe

731
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: allt like, this is what har Ball does, right.

732
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: He builds the.

733
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: Line from what I've heard, they want to go defense.

734
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: And we've seen the market move with the first defensive

735
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: player taken. It's moved towards a guy that has been

736
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: linked to the Chargers. So you know, at this point,

737
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: my view of it is again going back to Peter Schrager.

738
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 3: I hope he's right. He put out a monock this morning.

739
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: He's usually pretty tuned in with what's going to happen.

740
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: He has Joe Alp falling right, he has Tennessee actually

741
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 3: trade now that seventh pick to the Vikings. The Vikings

742
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 3: we've been and taking JJ bare So you know, obviously

743
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: I made this bet way before you put this mockout.

744
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: But my whole view of the Joe All thing is

745
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: Joel It has an incredible name right right there, Like

746
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 3: that's a first round, top ten pick, Joe Alt.

747
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: It's simple. He backs it up.

748
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: If you have not seen him, he's baby faced, but

749
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: he is incredibly gifted and like in a normal draft

750
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: without all these quarterbacks, incredible ie receivers, he could be

751
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 3: the number one, number two, number three pick. Like he's

752
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: that talented, that good and once again an incredibly good name,

753
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: like simple, you can't really beat a Joe Alt name.

754
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: It's it's truly incredible. But he's got a fall.

755
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: Like when I look at this draft, this class has

756
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: a really good depth at offensive line and depth in

757
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: the first two rounds, not deep like not third, fourth,

758
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: fifth rounds, but the first two rounds they do have

759
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: a lot of really.

760
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: Tafted offensive line.

761
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: So right there, I felt like this should have been lower,

762
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: like plus two hundred just because of that.

763
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: All these teams know that.

764
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: It's like, if you're the Chargers, why take Joel at

765
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 3: number five where you can move back potentially to pick seven,

766
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: eight or nine and get him there, Like let a

767
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: team move up and take the quarterback in those high picks.

768
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 2: So it's a little bit what you talk about.

769
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: It is a little bit of a hedge with with

770
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: JJ right because of what you just talked about. It's like,

771
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: if he has skipped here at five, I do think

772
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: he'll fall, but Tennessee then being linked to him, that

773
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: does make sense at pick seven. So the hope here

774
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: with this bet is you're basically you're bestly betting on

775
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 3: either him not to be the first offensive alignment taken,

776
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: which could could happen. I mean that would be pretty shocking,

777
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 3: or just the fact that all these quarterbacks, these receivers

778
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: are all going to go ahead of them. It's just

779
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: going to bump him down just because you do have

780
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: three really good quarterbacks, three really good receivers, and now

781
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: you have JJ McCarthy added to it, where it's like,

782
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: that's that's the drama, that's rumor, real chills, Chad. So yeah,

783
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: we're basically betting on Chargers taking a defensive player trading

784
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: out or Tennessee taking a wide receiver trading out.

785
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: Uh.

786
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 3: Just both those teams could take Joe up. They both

787
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: need an incredible tackle and that's what he is.

788
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: I feel like this has to be our big balls bet. Uh, definitely,

789
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: because a it's scary to bet on the best offensive

790
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: lineman to go lower than to go eight or lower

791
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: in a draft where everybody needs offensive line help. And

792
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: as it stands right now, there are two teams in

793
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: the top eight, in the top seven who could conceivably

794
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: draft him. So to me, this feels like a big

795
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: Ball's bet of the week because we are we are

796
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: hoping so many of the things.

797
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: Happens that man listed it. What's that miss you saying

798
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: big balls better the week.

799
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: Big balls better the week? Joe all over seven and

800
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: a half at plus three hundred. So I mean it

801
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: is time for me to give you my exec decision.

802
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Are you ready the choice? Between the unthinkable and the impossible?

803
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: Are you your honors? Text to cute number executive decision, Yes.

804
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: Sir, over six and a half d lineman ed rushers

805
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: in the first round plus two hundred. So to me,

806
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: I think there's probably six guys that feel like they

807
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: should be first round picks. Right, it's Dallas Turner from Alabama.

808
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: It's Newton to Tackle from Illinois, Jared versus that the

809
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: end from Florida State Lata who liked had such a

810
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: good combine, the defensive end from Ucla. Then you got

811
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy from Texas to everyone loves. And then Darius Robinson,

812
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: the air rusher from Miszoo. So there's two guys that

813
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: have been getting a lot of noise. One Shop Robinson,

814
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: defensive end from Penn State. Everyone keeps saying, great name.

815
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: Everyone keeps saying first round name, if you if we

816
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: could just bet on first round names, we take Joe

817
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: All and Shop Robinson. So the guy who was the

818
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: coach for Micah Parsons for the Cowboy at the Cowboys,

819
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: George Edwards, is now on the bucks. A lot of

820
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: conversation about similarities in style, speed potential between Chop Robinson

821
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: and Micah Parsons and what George Edwards could do with

822
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: Chop Robinson. So a lot of talk about Chop Robinson

823
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: going to the Bucks at number twenty six. If you

824
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: get Chop Robinson at the end of the first round,

825
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: you're winning this bet. You have another shot. Brandon Fist,

826
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: defensive line, Florida State, who like he's a great story, right,

827
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: there's actually a really good story about him in the

828
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal today. Four years Western Michigan, not even recruited,

829
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: goes there, plays well, develops, gets better and better. A

830
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: nil hero transfers to Florida State, makes a boatload of money.

831
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: He's invested like six figures into the stock market at

832
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: this point. He just became very interested in the stock

833
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: market and growing his financial security before he is done

834
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: playing football, taking advantage of the position he's in. He

835
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: was not expected to be probably even a Day two pick,

836
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: but he hopped in the a SEC championship game, had

837
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: a great game against Louisville, and then ran a four

838
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: to seven something in the forty as a defensive lineman

839
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: at the combine. So now I've seen a bunch of

840
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: mocks where he is. He is sort of sneaking into

841
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: the bottom of the first round. So right now, like

842
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: the number on this, let me scroll back up what

843
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: I was at. I was at plus two hundred. I

844
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: think you got six guys guaranteed, and I think you

845
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: got two guys who could sneak in at the bottom.

846
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: So I think it's a little bit undervalued right now.

847
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: Exact decision.

848
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 3: I definitely agree on the chop part. But yeah, I

849
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: mean with Fisker, he won Senior Bowl Week two a

850
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: little bit. What you talking like, apparently all the coaches

851
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: loved him, loved his motor like that's Those are the

852
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: type of guys that make in the NFL, right, the

853
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: guys that have been doubted their whole career, that have

854
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: really grinded through all of it.

855
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: You know, I would be honestly shocked.

856
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: If he ended up being a first round pick just

857
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: because what you just said, Like everyone had him as

858
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: most likely a Day three guy. He's shining the Senior Bowl,

859
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: shining and shining in his workouts or anything like that. Okay,

860
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 3: he's a Day two guy now, should be an early

861
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: day two guy, right early mid mid early second round pick.

862
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 3: Then now what you're talking about, he's a fringe first

863
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: round pick. It'd be pretty shocking if team did do it,

864
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: but I don't think we'd be shocked. Right the DNS

865
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 3: rule the NFL. I mean, yeah, who was in the

866
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: Super Bowl last year the forty nine ers, who had

867
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: one of the BESTD lines of football. Who was in

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl year before the Eagles one of the

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Speaker 1: Let's do it, brother, Let's execut decision this together. It

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