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Speaker 1: of all, you don't know we're all about that high

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Speaker 1: my father met when she was a teenager and where

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00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: my brothers all worked in the pharmacy. And it was

425
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: just too much. And then I started um working at

426
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: a Buffalo wing factory and I started I was like

427
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: bar attending. It wasn't totally legal, but it was the

428
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: year Coyote Ugly came out, and I was like for

429
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: that girl, No, I was working on a real bar. Child.

430
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: The deal was I was allowed to pour the beer.

431
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to walk it to the table, which

432
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: I think it doesn't make any sense, right if you're

433
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: underage around would make more sense, like, yeah, pick it

434
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: up and walk into the table and that was it.

435
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: But you had no business pouring it or being in

436
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: contact with the open bottle tips or tips friends. I

437
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: was a team sad. What about you? You were making movies? Joy? Yeah,

438
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean my first my first jobs were TV jobs

439
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: like UM commercials and pilots and stuff like that. But

440
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: my first reg non circus job was circus. I worked

441
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: at a UM. I think I worked at the French Connection,

442
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: you know, the clothing store. I think I was in

443
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: there just like dressing the mannequins, and all I wanted

444
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: to do is do window dressing. And then when I

445
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: moved to New York City, UM, when I was done

446
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: with my soap opera that I was on, I got

447
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: a regular, normal job at a perfumery and so I

448
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: got to make perfume for people all day, which is

449
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: super fun. You had told me when we first met

450
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: that you were going to go work in a florish

451
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: shop because you sent me flowers. You sent me flowers

452
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: for something, and you came to my house and there

453
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: was baby's breath in there, and you were like, I

454
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: told them not to put some baby's breath in thereby

455
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: so taggy I did. Don't get your girl's flowers with

456
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: baby's breath and them just take it out and then

457
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: wrap that in a brown paper bag or something. Don't

458
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: leave the plastic gun, don't you know. I did work

459
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: at a florist in l A. That was my first job.

460
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: I got to l A and I was like, I

461
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: need a job, So I went into a florist shop

462
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: and they hired me. It's a skill set that's last

463
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: to do forever. Was it a walk down memory lane

464
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: to see anything at this job? Emmanuel kicking it in

465
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: the mall already watching it last night, I was like, wow,

466
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember that, and like the cleaning at

467
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: the end of the night, Like you're there in the

468
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: empty mall and it's kind of you know, just like huh.

469
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: And then you're like, I gotta get home on the

470
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: bus and you're like, yeah, it did bring back memories

471
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: of that. And what about that carousel, the infamous carousel

472
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: in the mall? How did you feel about that? I mean,

473
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: it was the first episode. I was I didn't rewatch

474
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: that episode yet, but uh, do you remember when we

475
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: were filming it, Like how you felt about it when

476
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: you saw the script come in And I don't know

477
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: what did you think? Uh? You know, I was like, well,

478
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm the you know, I'm the seductress and the villain

479
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: and this, and you know, I guess this is this

480
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: is what what I'm doing. I just remember extensive wardrobe

481
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: talks about what it was I was going to wear

482
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: to straddle him on the carousel, you know, like all

483
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: this stuff. I was like, I don't think when you

484
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: were a kid and you're like I want to be

485
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: an actor that it would boil down to like straddling

486
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: wardrobe conferensation. When she straddles him and takes her top off,

487
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: what brau should we wear? And also like, you know,

488
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: like how stretchy should the skirt be so she can

489
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: like really straddle them? Yeah, not just like a polite

490
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: side saddle western saddle. We just I just could not

491
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: get over the fact that they were in a mall

492
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: after hours and the carousel lights were still on and

493
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: there were no security cameras. No one stopped them. It

494
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: was like there were too many. By the way, the

495
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: security guards at that mall were just like, cool, this

496
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: is great, let let them go out for a whiles.

497
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: It was I mean, those scenes are always awkward and

498
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: kind of you know, whatever to shoot, and uh, yeah,

499
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: it was what it was. I think. I mean, I

500
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: did put a whole lot of thought into it at

501
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: the time. You know, I'm sure looking it was normal

502
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: back then, you know what I mean In these days

503
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: and times, that would have been a completely different conversation

504
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: and and a like, okay, we're rewriting this. Yeah. Well,

505
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: and also, Nikki's a little bit older than us. We've

506
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: talked about that as well. Was it clear that Nikki

507
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: was in college because she says sometimes like tuition, but

508
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: then she also talks about being a teenager. Did you

509
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: know she was supposed to be a few years older?

510
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: It was never really addressed like specifically in this, you know,

511
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: in the scenes or in this it was sort of

512
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: the yeah, like referenced, but not really talked about. So yeah, yeah,

513
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: I like that she's still going to high school parties, Like, yeah,

514
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: she's got to high school parties and seducing like high

515
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: school boys. Oh my god, you're the Matthew McConaughey. It's

516
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: like des and confused. So good. Well. Barbara had some

517
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: lingerie action in this episode as well, which um, I

518
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: think she we remembered her not wanting to do that.

519
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: I have to we have to ask her about it.

520
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but she was pissed that she had

521
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: to pull the shirt up over her head because it

522
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: just is an awkward thing to do on camera. Yes, yeah,

523
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: this would have been like a button thing. Yeah, but

524
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: would have been great. Yeah. I like when we were

525
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: last night, it did kind of catch me off. I mean,

526
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I get what they were going for,

527
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: but in my head, I was like, yeah, but it

528
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: felt like it just felt a little out of It

529
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: felt like a forced moment. Not because of the acting,

530
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: but the writing felt like a forced moment to me

531
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: because she was actually really upset and he was totally

532
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: gaslighting her in that moment, and you know, just do

533
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: pulling all of his manipulative that suddenly now she's turned

534
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: on by I just wish there had been some sort

535
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: of if he had I don't know, if the if

536
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: the fight had had felt a little bit more like

537
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: he was fighting for her in in some new way,

538
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: rather than him attacking her and suddenly shirt off, you

539
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There is a pheromone thing that

540
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: I didn't understand as a young person, and now as

541
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: an adult, I'm like, oh, man, chemicals are a real thing.

542
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Like you can't be technically attracted to a person who

543
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: makes you an insane Um, maybe that's what it is.

544
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Maybe Dan has strung long pheromone action. Yeah, it could be.

545
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: It could be. I mean, and she was drinking, so

546
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: I guess that sort of you know, listened to her

547
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: up a little bit with this whole conversation. Moral of

548
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: the story, friends, don't drink with your ex husband. Yeah. God.

549
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: But you know what was what really got me about it?

550
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean when when they started making out, it was like,

551
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: oh wow, that, you know, the first time we get

552
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: to see um Dan and and deb really being romantic

553
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 1: with each other. That's not a tender thing, but like

554
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: a passionate romance, which we've never seen with them before.

555
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: But what really got me is that the end, when

556
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: he comes back and pulls that classic narcissist of I'm

557
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: the one leaving you now I'm going to bring it

558
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: back in. He just keeps proving over and over. Yes.

559
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: Well it's like, yeah, I got, I got what I wanted.

560
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: I wanted that one last sort of like to see

561
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: how great we used to be and you yea, And

562
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: now I wanted you to want me again and for

563
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: me to be able to show you what it's like

564
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: for me to leave when you want me. Oh, it's

565
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: just he just keeps proving over and over how broken

566
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: he is. This is why I've got a theory. Guys,

567
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: your favorite body of water is it resembles your personality, right,

568
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: Like there are people that are like the ocean, and

569
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: they come and they come back to it, and they

570
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: go out and they come back to and they go

571
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: out and they come back to it. I have always

572
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: been a river person. The water is never the same. Ever,

573
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: it just keeps on running downhill man. And so once

574
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm gone, I'm gone forever. It's never coming back. And

575
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying all the debs out there, don't kiss him again,

576
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do it, Just get it out

577
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: of your I'm a lake person. I don't know what

578
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: that means. What does that mean? Hillary? Um? Deep waters

579
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: so deep sometimes you'll never touch the bottom, like they're like, yeah,

580
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll just stay and places I shouldn't stay. The

581
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: water doesn't bring you a canoe. I'll come get you

582
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: down your river and bring me up over here. Manuela,

583
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: Are you a body of water? Are you? Um? I'd

584
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: say I'm a mix between the like a river and

585
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: the ocean, like I have been guilty of being the

586
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: ocean before. But when I'm done that, what like, there's

587
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: no like, when I'm truly done, the wall comes up.

588
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: It's over. There's no going back, Like I can't um

589
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: make like when somebody's crossed that line, I'm just like okay.

590
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: Now now it's really like there's no going back for

591
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: me because that trust is broken. Everything it's just too broken.

592
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: It's when you're like the inter Coastal Waterway and you

593
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: turn into salt water at a certain point, you went

594
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: from being fresh water salt water salty salty about this

595
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: in there, but then yeah, uh um talking about salty,

596
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: said here's uh Lucas telling Keith, I wanted you to

597
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: be my dad. Um. This breakup between Karen and Keith,

598
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: we said when we were watching, were like, it's like

599
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: watching your parents get divorced, except they were never married,

600
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: so you don't get the same grief process, you know,

601
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: like Nathan gets to have that grief process of my

602
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: parents are a mess. But Lucas had fantasized about Karen

603
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: and Keith being his parents, and now it's that dream

604
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: is dying. It's hard to watch a dream like that die,

605
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: especially as a kid when you I mean he had

606
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: been holding onto that hope, I think as much as

607
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: Keith had. It was hard to it's hard to see

608
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: that die. Did you get to a wee moment too?

609
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: Between the two of them? I was like, Wow, that

610
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: was really touching and like and for him as a

611
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: as a young man to go and actually how that conversation,

612
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Like how hard that must be? Too? Well, And you're

613
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: getting to see multiple sides of Lucas because you were

614
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: dealing with sexy Lucas in the beginning and now you're

615
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: seeing you know, like the conversation you guys had on

616
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: the porch a couple episodes ago, and like watching him

617
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: today be like, hey, listen, I kept your secret. I'm

618
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: trying to be a good person. You know. Chad does

619
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: a really really good job at plane those little boy

620
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: feelings of like like I just want my parents to

621
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: get along. I don't want my dad to leave. I

622
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: don't you know this girl is going to make trouble

623
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: and I just really want Haley to have a nice party.

624
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: And you know when he goes into little boy mode,

625
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't really I love that when he does that

626
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: me too. Not every dude's up for it. Yeah, yeah,

627
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: he does it very well. He really embraces that. And

628
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: I think that's what we loved about Lucas in the beginning,

629
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, the sort of college bad boy Lucas we

630
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: all were really thrown off track with. And it didn't

631
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: it felt really insincere, probably for a reason because this

632
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: is Chad's sweet spot as an actor. I think being

633
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: in this zone with Um the sincere, you know, a

634
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: little a little there's a little boy that wants to

635
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: come out that you know is vulnerable, and I think

636
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: that he really did a nice job with that. Well,

637
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: we didn't get to see you hold your baby in

638
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: this episode, Emmanuel Um, but we saw Karen holding your baby,

639
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: which is random but a useful tool because it allowed

640
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: us to visualize what Karen Keith and Lucas were when

641
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: he was a baby, and it allowed us to visualize

642
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: what they potentially could be except she's just not in

643
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: love with him. Did you feel at the end, like

644
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: when she's fixing his tie and he finally like he

645
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: or no not once started after that when he comes

646
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: back and says he got he's got the job and

647
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: it's finally real and he's leaving, I saw like a

648
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: moment of sort of hesitation, kind of like going, oh crap,

649
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: this is I screwed up, like maybe like threight a minute,

650
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: this is like I don't know how I feel about this,

651
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: And there was I don't like. I saw that moment

652
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: in her eyes and it was such it was so

653
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: beautifully played, so subtle, but it was like just her

654
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: whole demeanor changed. Moira was really good at that. She's

655
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: so good at subtext. She's so good at using her

656
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: eyes to express what's not on paper. And that question

657
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: mark is what makes the performance like fun. You know,

658
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: if we knew that Karen really didn't love him, would

659
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: be like, okay, move on next. You know who's she

660
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: going to kiss now? Um? But that question mark is real. Um.

661
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have gotten to interact with

662
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: the little girl who played baby Jenny. Have you guys

663
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: ever met after like like later, yeah, grace hold them? Well?

664
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: There was there was of her babies when I was there,

665
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: there was you had a couple of everyone. Yeah, there

666
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: was a few different ones because and then as she

667
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: got older than there were twins and so I don't know,

668
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: I haven't you would be so proud of her. She

669
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: is in her freshman year of college. She is like

670
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: a nationally ranked golfer, like on like p g A,

671
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, like she's gonna be I love that she

672
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: stayed in touch and tracked tracked with her because her

673
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: mother was a stand in on Dawson's Creek and on

674
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: our show. And so that's how we got baby Jenny

675
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: because her mom has been a part of our film

676
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: community in Wilmington for years. But she is the most

677
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: remarkable young woman, Like during the pandemic she started a

678
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: candle company to raise money for charity. And she's just

679
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: so cool. She's so you would be so proud, NICKI,

680
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: of your little baby because she's so my little girl. Yeah,

681
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: I mean I don't remember what happens, But does NICKI

682
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: maintain custody of Jenny? Like what happens? I feel like

683
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: I disappear, Like I just up and go one day.

684
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think you do too. I

685
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: think I think it's like I think it actually seems

686
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: like you're getting your together and it's actually going to

687
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: start to something's gonna work, and then you just disappear again.

688
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: Because women are the devil. Of course, we can tell

689
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: so many I'll tell you what, though, Nikki and Brooke

690
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: in that bar was so delicious. I really did enjoy

691
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: watching all that wickedness just you know, it was so fun.

692
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: It was so fun watching you guys in this the

693
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: one liners between you two. I could watch that whole show.

694
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: It's like the Dark Laverne and Shirley. Yes, well, the

695
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: the moment that she makes, like the brush off she

696
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: gives to the guy before rush, Like who that is?

697
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: That is? Damn? It was delicious. Yeah, well we can

698
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: talk about Sophia because she's not here. They gave Sophia

699
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: so much heavy lifting because she would have to go

700
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: from being so emotional in certain scenes to also like

701
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: scathing and evil and brutal, you know, with the one

702
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: liners and the scripting for Brooke is so fun in

703
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: this episode because it really does there's a wide range

704
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: of stuff that she has to cover. Um, and that

705
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: defense mechanism that young women put up is a strong

706
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: play for Brook. It's like, well, if you're gonna hurt

707
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: my feelings, I'm going to make sure I cut your

708
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: head off. Um. It's a prayin mantis move and I'm

709
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: drawn to it. Yeah, right, Like Nikki is being self

710
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: destructive and anyone who can see through the veneer of like,

711
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: oh I'm tough, I'm tough, I'm bad, I'm lippy. Um,

712
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: you can see that this is a girl that is

713
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: hurting deeply. And did you have any conversations with anybody

714
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: about what that hurt was or or you just had

715
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: to make it up on your own. I just made

716
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: it up on my own, I mean I think, Um, yeah,

717
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it was like a specific

718
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: conversation with anyone, like any of the writers or people involved.

719
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: I think it was just something that I, you know,

720
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: I recognized that that there was a lot of scars

721
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: and the history there, and to bringing that to the

722
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: table was important instead of the you know, the evolution

723
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: of the character and and just her you know, presence

724
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: on screen. What was people's reaction to you? Like when

725
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: these things, do you remember people would like there would

726
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: be people be like, oh my god, you're Nikki. I

727
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: love to hate you, like, you know, like they would

728
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: come up to me and be like, oh my god,

729
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: I hate your character so much, but it's so much

730
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: fun to watch. And I was like that's great, so great. Wait,

731
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: so okay, what is what was crazier working on a

732
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: teen drama or working on two and a half Men,

733
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: because you have been able to handle a lot of

734
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: different personalities. I mean, well behind the same stuff counts too. Yeah,

735
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean I don't like see I generally have stayed

736
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: like with the two and a half Man stuff, I

737
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: stayed out of that whole, you know, like I was there,

738
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: that wasn't something I was directly involved with, Like it was. Yes,

739
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: I was involved with it, but not that way, you know,

740
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: So it didn't it didn't change my relationships with anyone

741
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: on the show, or with Charlie or with you know.

742
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: And then um so yeah, I don't know. I I

743
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: tend to try to stay out of the pick of

744
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: the drama. And yeah, You've always been very professional. I

745
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: mean as I definitely remember when you came down to

746
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: Wilmington that you were so you're just so professional. And

747
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why we were so intimidated

748
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: by you two, because you just you knew exactly what

749
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: you were there to do, and you showed up and

750
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: you were kind to everyone, and you know, knew nobody

751
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: had to tell you how to find your mark or

752
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you were just a consummate professional, and you

753
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: weren't involved in any of the behind the scenes drama

754
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: or anything. You know, it's really it's nice too. It's

755
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: nice to be around that. Oh thank you. Yeah, I thought.

756
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: I think also too, like I wasn't for for One

757
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: Tree Hill, I wasn't there, you know, for every episode.

758
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure when it's different. When you're there day in

759
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: and day out for months and months and years at

760
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: a time, inevitably there's there's stuff that comes up, and

761
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: situations and issues come up that you deal with appropriately

762
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: at the time. But yeah, and also being young on

763
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: a show like that, it completely it's like high school

764
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: but with money. Totally terrible combination. Totally, it's not a

765
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: good combot can we um? Well, we could always come

766
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: back to that too. Sorry. I just wanted to because

767
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about Peyton yet in this episode, and

768
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that, like, it was really

769
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: nice to see Peyton happy and like having a great time,

770
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: like she she and you and Lucas had such a

771
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: good report and you know, there was like great music

772
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: going on, and you just seemed so light and happy

773
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: until the very end, when you know, Nikki was like

774
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: you know, the happy Stuff is harder for me to play.

775
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: I always am really judgmental of my own performances with

776
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: happy stuff because I know I'm really yeah yeah yeah.

777
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: But the one thing that I like about it is

778
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: that it makes Peyton more juvenile. You know. Um, it's

779
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: really hard to it's really hard to sexualize or just

780
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: kind of um misinterpret like a goofy kid, you know.

781
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: And when people's like being happy and just like this,

782
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: mand's neat mr. Um. I appreciate those moments of childishness,

783
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Um. I like that she's committing

784
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: to this like platonic thing, and I I believe her,

785
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: like I believe that she's legitimately trying to be platonic

786
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: with Lucas, because if she can just make that work,

787
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: if she can just like prove like, hey, we're just friends,

788
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: regardless of how I've felt in the past, regardless of

789
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: how I may secretly still feel, maybe Brooke will take

790
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: me back. You know. It's it's like she's doing the work.

791
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: I loved it. But have you guys ever done those

792
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: scenes though, where you have to pretend like you're having

793
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: the best time ever or that you love something so

794
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: much like metal um in eighties metal guys, it's the

795
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: coolest and you just I don't know, I always feel

796
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: so funny doing it. It's way easier for me to cry. Actually,

797
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: Like watching the episode, I was like, Wow, she's just

798
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: so like cool and fun and free, like it be

799
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: so free and not like in very comfortable and in

800
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: your just in your body and just kind of like it.

801
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: I was watching those scenes, I was like, Wow, it's

802
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: really They're really nice to watch. Um, So it doesn't

803
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't come across as disingenuine or um that you're

804
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: not actually happy about it and that you don't actually

805
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: love metal, metal head love metal. Can you imagine me

806
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: going to pick my son up from school? Like just

807
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: like metaled Out, slip Knot, can the car gus? Well,

808
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: do we have any fan questions? Where are we at?

809
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: My last fan questions? These are interesting? Well, we're talking

810
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: about music. Go for it Hill, Okay, So Ashton asks.

811
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: So many of the bands, artists and songs I loved

812
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: in high school were featured on the show Jimmy Eat World, Fallout, Boy,

813
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: Jack's Mannequin, The list goes on. So my question to

814
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: you guys is, what was a soundtrack to your high

815
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: school experience and who were the heavy hitters on your

816
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: mixtapes and mixed CDs. That's a great question. Yes, Dave Matthew,

817
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean Under the Table and Dreaming. Dave Matthews album

818
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: was everything. I remember we took a senior trip to Greece.

819
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: That was our class trip. I know, crazy. I went

820
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: to Myrtle Beach, Joy you went to greet and I

821
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: had that soundtrack on my walkman, and I just remember

822
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: walking the streets of Greece like this. I was totally

823
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: broken hearted about a boy, of course, and he was

824
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: on the trip but not paying any attention to me,

825
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: And it was just it was like the most heartbreaking

826
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: romantic thing ever to be wandering through these you know,

827
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: Grecian streets listening to Dave Matthews band. But that and

828
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: then that Jewel album and Fiona Apple. When Fiona Apple

829
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: came out with was It Criminal? I can't remember the

830
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: name of this slow like honey off that album? Is

831
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: that whole record? Yeah? And the Jewel Pieces of You album,

832
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: Those those three were Cheryl Crow too. Um but yeah,

833
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: that was the major soundtrack of my life. What about you, guys, say? Um,

834
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: I mean Atlanta's Morrisset when she first come. Yes, that was.

835
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: I remember listening to a lot of lass More Set

836
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: and then Madonna, Like I was a big eighties music

837
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: like anything eighties, but Madonna I distinctly remember, and I

838
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: was like, really, I was maybe like in second grade

839
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: or something, and I had my little tape for quarter

840
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: thing with the Madonna or No, it wasn't second grade.

841
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: It was like maybe fifth grade because I'd gone to

842
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: the mall and like saved up enough money to like

843
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: by you know, the Madonna like a Virgin album was

844
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: at people, like a Virgin in my bed, like dancing around.

845
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: My dad walks and he's like and he's like, what

846
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Speaker 1: are you listening to Madonna like Virgin. He's like, Nope,

847
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be dancing two things you don't know about.

848
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: And then he just like shut the door and walked

849
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: out so confused. And now I look at Yeah, that

850
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: was That was a rough one. I was a little

851
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: bit lost the first couple of years of high school,

852
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: and then I really got obsessed with androgyny and discovered

853
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: boy George, David Bowie Andie Lennox like all in one

854
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: fell swoop and I just felt like I found my

855
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: safe space. And I had pictures of boy George from

856
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: Culture Club all over my bedroom, all over my locker.

857
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: I had a whole like block of class that was

858
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: just student government, and I used that time not to

859
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: run our school effectively, but to use the printer to

860
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: print out pictures of boy George and so my so

861
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: totally tracks that. Like the second I got to Manhattan

862
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: at eighteen years old, I was like, where the drag upsy?

863
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: It's so good? Yeah, that was that was my scene,

864
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: just driving in my cutlast listening to Culture Club was

865
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: the jam um. But let's talk about then, like what

866
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: would our characters be doing? You know, we talked a

867
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: number of times about how unsettling it was that people

868
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: just kept walking into peyton House house. This episode was gross,

869
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: just everybody just at all hours walking into house, Like

870
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: turning around and finding Brooks standing there over her bed

871
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: with the light shining through the slats in the windows shades.

872
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I get that she's about to lay down.

873
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: It's going to be a sweet moment, but she's it's

874
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: a bad way to kick it off. So I think

875
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: that Peyton in her adulthood is going to be very Um,

876
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of triggers for her, you know, like, yeah,

877
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: no one's coming into her daughter's room, you know, door open,

878
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: feet on the floor. We have monitors, ring doorbells everywhere,

879
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: everywhere where, it's just ring cameras everywhere. I think Hayley

880
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: is Haley has been such a goody two shoes her

881
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: whole life that she probably is like living out some

882
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: wild years right now. That's my instinct throwing parties all

883
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: the time. This was just the first case, all kinds

884
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: of parties. What's NICKI up too? Did she ever get

885
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: herself together? Um? I feel like she she's uh like

886
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: twenty gosh, twenty years later. Um, I mean I feel

887
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: like she's living in a small town working at a diner,

888
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: trying to make meat and just you know, like she's

889
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: just living a very sort of quiet life and maybe

890
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: maybe still is still facing her demons and hasn't interesting.

891
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: She's not still at the pool hall now, She's like

892
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: the salty brown in the corner. Hey, kids, you need it,

893
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: you need a fake I d kid, I know where

894
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: I get on my God. So that okay, So mano,

895
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: tell us what you're doing now, because that's what I

896
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: want to know. What are you working on now? I'm well,

897
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: right now, I was working on Supergirl earlier this year,

898
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: and then Thank You, and then I did like an

899
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: independent movie, and then I spent the summer showing my

900
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: horse and was playing with So that's basically you know.

901
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: Now it's like pouring rein here, um, and I'm kind

902
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: of like the horse loves it here. So I'm like, Okay,

903
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay here for a while and hang out

904
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: because there's more space and just you know, where is

905
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: your horse normally? Um? While I was in l a um,

906
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: so you shipped shipped him up or her up? Thou

907
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: um last year at the end of last year, I

908
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: shipped her up when I should have just ridden her.

909
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: I would have watched the documentary Emmanuel just riding this

910
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: beautiful stallion across the border? Or is it a what's

911
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: what's the right word? Yeah, I'm learning, guys, it's a lady.

912
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: What's her name? Bunny? Oh, my horse's name is Buddy. Buddy. Yeah,

913
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: So what kind of horse do you have? He's a

914
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: quarter horse. He's just a dark, dark, dark brown, almost

915
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: black quarter horse and he's a nineteen years old so

916
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: he's he's you know, he's had a good long life,

917
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: but um, he's just kind of happy to be grazing

918
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: right now. He's not he's kind of an asshole. He

919
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: because he's just like, I'm just not into it. I

920
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: put in my time woman name. His name was Bunny

921
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: when I got him, and I just didn't like it

922
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: for a male horse. I wasn't into it, and he

923
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: didn't seem to fit his personality at all, to be honest,

924
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: because then an asshole. Yeah, So I called him Buddy

925
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: because I didn't want him to, like, at nineteen years old,

926
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: get a new name. But I feel like Buddy was

927
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: a little closer to this is the Christmas movie I

928
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: Want this Year where Emmanuel's horse teaches Joy's horse the

929
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: true meaning of Christmas and to stop being so grumpy.

930
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: Nikki could disappear and be a cowgirl. That's an alternate

931
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: lifestyle likest to the barrel day. She became a barrel. Yes,

932
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: there we go that. I like a brighter future for her.

933
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: And she found herself because she started working with horses

934
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: and like therapeutically and she and she found healing in

935
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: that and then decided that that was her true passion

936
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: and it was healthy for her to be in that world.

937
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: She could totally show up on yellow Stone like her

938
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:36,959
Speaker 1: and Beth would be best friends. Great, should we spend

939
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: the wheel? Guy? Yeah, let's do it all right. You

940
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: know how this works many Well, we have our most

941
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: likely to every week, and this week it is most

942
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: likely to be listed on the Fortune five hundred. So

943
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: we pick a cast member, a real life person, and

944
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: a character who would be the ps likely to make

945
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: it on the place. James Lafferty is he monlent with money?

946
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: He makes very good choices with money? And why does

947
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: mouth work for every answer? Yeah, I mean mouth has

948
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: going to pretty much everything. Um, who made money? I

949
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: mean Brooke made money with clothes over bros Right? Or

950
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: what happened? Yeah yeah that was a big company. Yeah yeah,

951
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: that does track and Sophia. By the way, so Fia

952
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: has three hundred jobs at any given point, hence her

953
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: not being here. Today's person I've ever met in my life,

954
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I'll have what she's hall He

955
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: in Canada too, like I heard on the because I was,

956
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, stocking you guys on the episodes what happens

957
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: on JOHNA Queen's. But I heard she was in Canada.

958
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's in Toronto. Yeah, she's there. A couple

959
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: of our friends are up there right now, and yeah,

960
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: all the fun stuff is happening in Canada when you

961
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: all come into New York. I'm just sitting here. Wait.

962
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: Originally I came up here was just because this was

963
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: the only place that was kind of open, you know,

964
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I need to

965
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: get out of Dodge for a little while. And then

966
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: I just was like, I really like it up here

967
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: and everything's virtual, so like, what doesn't really matter? Yeah, exactly.

968
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm so glad that you were able to

969
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: join us today. It's just so great to see you

970
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: and talk with you again. And it always makes me

971
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: happy to have our family back on this show. So

972
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Well, thank you for having me.

973
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: And I like, I was so excited. I was like, yes,

974
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: I'll come do you know so much fun? And then

975
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: when I listened to the episodes and I was like,

976
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: this is really going to be fun because I loved

977
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: fighting with you. I loved remember they made us like

978
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: crash through that coffee table and it was the first

979
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: time i'd ever had to do like a really big

980
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: stunt before, and it was scary. Didn't you get cut

981
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: by the fake balsa wood? One of us got cut,

982
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: But we wanted to be tough girls, I think so,

983
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I remember being really sore after like the

984
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: next couple of days, like I had worked out like

985
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: twelve hours straight because we shot that for like all

986
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: day long, and you know, and then the yeah, three

987
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: hundred takes all angles everywhere. I mean it was fun though,

988
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: Like it was a fun like the energy was so

989
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: high that day. It was really good. No, we had

990
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: a great time, and you just kind of go, well,

991
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: you have to come to a convention because then we

992
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: can do pictures. Yeah, I feel like fansy they need

993
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 1: that photo. We'll just put a coffee table in front

994
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: of us and pre broken, so all you have to

995
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: do is just lay down on it. You got a

996
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: problem with me? Yeah? Um, I love it so much. Manuel,

997
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: You're the best. Everybody give it up. Thank you guys

998
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: so much. Everybody tune in next episode number twenty one,

999
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: the Leaving Song. I still I still don't know what's

1000
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: going to happen. I love this rewatch because I'm surprised

1001
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: every week Danger Danger, have a great week. Everybody you

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00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: guys like, Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave

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