WEBVTT - Rocky Ranking & Falling SHORT | Ep #70 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:15.720 Yo, week before Thanksgiving, you got some extra games. You 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:17.800 got a Black Friday game. So hey, this is your 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:19.119 Ober promised. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.360 Yeah, thankful for seventy kick ass episodes of this show. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:24.239 Episode seventy. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:29.720 Thankful for this guy right here, Dunce, Boy Cavino and 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.680 Rich this is our bonus pod again. We're on two 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.400 to four Monday through Friday right here on Fox Sports 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.240 Radio five to seven on the East Coast. And this 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.239 is the stuff we didn't have time for. And on 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.360 his very special day, Rich, we celebrate there. He is 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.839 forty eight years of Rocky Boa. But we're also going 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.240 to talk about falling short of milestones. James Harden's in 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.240 the news plus your pick for week twelve tonight, and 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:55.040 let's get into it. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.960 Man, do you know how old Rocky is in perspective 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.680 when you really think about when we little kids, when 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.320 you were just a little boy, back to the future, 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.280 went back to the fifties, that fell forever ago. Yeah, 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.480 when you watched The Wizard of Oz that was nineteen 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.399 thirty nine. So if you were a kidding in the eighties, 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.360 there's fifty years ago. In two years, this right here, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.720 fifty years ago, fifty years old. 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.880 But It's forty eight today, debut today in nineteen seventy six, 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:27.800 winning the Academy Award, putting Sylvester Stallone absolutely on the 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.280 map as the god man. 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.080 You have to sell his dog buckets. Yeah, this s Bookers. 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.880 That means a cuff and link must be at least 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.000 fifty sixty years old at this point. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:37.520 He's crazy. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.200 He still has those turtles. That's a fun fact. But 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.720 it's a legendary movie. It's a love story and underdog story. 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:47.040 One of our favorite movies of all time. Absolutely, I 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.840 love this and you know what, I know, it moves 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.920 slower from today's perspective now, but I watched it recently 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.840 with my daughter and she loved it. So that still 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.920 holds up. Yeah, still holds up, stood the test of time. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:06.440 It's a classic, and it got us thinking with slying 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:10.240 the News recently. You know, I think the whole Tyson 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.959 fight was a fix. Absolutely, he deserves an Academy Award 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:20.720 Oscar winning performance Iron Mike. Absolutely, he implied that he 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.160 deserved an Academy Award for his performance. Sign the News 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:28.880 and the anniversary today, how do you rank the Rockies? 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.400 It's a forever debate. 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.080 This is very telling I think you'll learn a lot 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.480 about someone based on how they rank the Rocky movies. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.560 And we all have our own order, right, Like, no 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.960 one's gonna have the same exact order. It's like my 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.040 theory on Tom Hanks movies. If you tell someone give 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.520 me your top four, you're mount rushmore of Hanks. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.280 No one's gonna have the same four. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.679 I don't think anyone's gonna have the same Rocky order 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.560 because I think right out the gate, it's like. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.840 Snowflakes and uh, all different and. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.760 Yeah. Wow, So when you look at all the Rocky movies, 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.359 I'm not even going to include the Creed movies, but 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.960 I want to hear a fun fact. Yeah, the money 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:07.840 maker this is you put your glasses on too. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:08.000 Here. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.799 Yeah, well I'm trying to see, you know, the rankings here. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:16.360 So total cost to make all the Rockies and the 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:16.960 Creed movie. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:17.960 So that's nine. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:23.560 Overall blockbusters one hundred and eighty seven million dollars, just 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.880 shy of two billion dollars. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.040 Wow, you're like, there's a lot of money. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:32.280 And stallone is in a rare category of multiple franchises, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:36.680 between The Expendables and Rambo and Rocky, only few have 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.320 done it as big as Sylvester Stallone, so we salute 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.080 you on this day on the anniversary of its debut. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:44.520 Was Over the Top of franchise. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.320 Over the Top was the most ridiculous movie when you 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.760 think of the premise. Truck driver that was an arm wrestler. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.200 Was a little over the time. All loved it. The 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.240 arm wrestled to get custody of this kid. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.560 But the theory is this, guys, we all love the Rockies, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.240 we love the Rocky franchise. 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:00.960 We all got pumped. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.720 This kid's watching the movies shadow boxing in our kitchen 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.480 and our socks sliding around. We all have that punching bag, 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.960 probably with clubber Lang on one side and Rocky on 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:17.640 the other. Right, Italian Stallion, absolutely, but we all have 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:22.159 different orders of appreciation and mine is simple. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:22.960 So I'll go first. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.760 You know, HB four beauty. There you go to quote, uh, 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:26.839 the old rookie. 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.279 You might get punch in the nose because some people 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:31.120 need to learn. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:32.039 The hard way. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:39.880 The Italian Stallion rest in peace. Carl Weathers, I'm going 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.880 with the og. I know that's debatable, but you can't 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:48.159 debate the original. It's the best. It won the Academy Award. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.520 If there's no Rocky, there's no Rocky two three. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.560 I know that other people are gonna be like, yeah, 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.200 but the other one's better, isn't that. No, This is 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.360 the first. It's still great. It's the one people talk about. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.320 It's the one. It goes down in the history books, 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.279 all right. It led us to all these other ones. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:08.919 You can't beat the first one. Rocky, the Ogg, the 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.240 Red Brain and all that stuff. Number one, Number one, 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:21.080 My second favorite in the Rocky franchise, Rocky four soundtrack. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.080 Li in a mate. I mean they all have so easy, 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.000 way have great soundtracks, right, all five. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:32.920 You just the craziness of it, the novelty of it. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.960 James Brown and Ivan Drago. It's the goofiest one, probably 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.640 but the most entertaining. I view it as the Temple 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.520 of Doom of the Rocky franchise meeting Indiana Jones and 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.720 Temple of Doo might be the dumbest one, but it's 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:50.120 the most entertaining. So Rocky four for me, everything he hits, 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:56.360 he just thrus. I'van Drago against seen that in the 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.120 theater as a kid. For me, that's right there. It 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:00.800 could be number one, but it can't be better than 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.920 the original, so it's number two. I got Rocky two 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.800 at number three because it's great. Rocky two is arguably 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.920 as good as the first one. So I got Rocky two. 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:10.960 Next. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.960 I got Rocky three after that. Now this is tough 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.120 because they're all good. Rocky three was good. Yeah, you know, 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.640 I got the poofy hair. Now I got like poofy hair. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.480 I'm fighting thunderlips and clubber lang. Oh he insulted my wife. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:26.040 Absolutely no kill the real man. Yeah, so I mean, 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.960 and mister t was the baddest in the land at 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.680 that time. So Rocky three is next. Then I got 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.360 Balboa because I thought Balboa was really good. 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:36.760 Good movie. It is. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.320 You know, people don't like the sad undertones of the movie, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.000 but I thought it was great. If you slept on 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:44.960 it or you didn't like it, I think you'd you 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:45.799 should watch it again. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.960 I really actually enjoyed Rocky Buboa. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.400 So I got this at five, and I have Rocky 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.039 five at number six on my countdown. And I see 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.599 that respectfully because I know everybody says it's the worst, 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.200 and it is, but it's the worst. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:01.280 Of awesome movies. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.360 If you watch it again, The only real criticism is, well, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.200 I don't like the storyline because he's down and out 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:08.880 and poor well whooped he do he didn't. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:09.400 Write the story. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.640 That's the life of the k of Rocky's and that's 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.600 the arc of a lot of fighters, right, So you 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.640 don't like it, big deal. But the criticism is he 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.200 didn't fight in the ring. If he fought Tommy Gun 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:22.640 in the ring. But it's still a good movie. I 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.680 promise you we'd all love it. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.960 I watched it within the last couple of years, and 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.640 my big takeaway was, yeah, this isn't as shitty as 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.600 I remember. But at the end when he's in the street, 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:37.320 like go for it, it's not a corny yeah, Like 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.520 even that part's cool. There's a scene where Mickey's giving 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.840 him a motivational speech in black and white. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.560 Like about when here's the downside of. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.920 It too, when he thanks George Washington Duke instead of Rocky, like. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.120 It's Tommy Morrison in it. 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.560 Look, and you got to give credit to Stallone for 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.920 always casting former athletes in all of his movies, even 0:07:55.960 --> 0:08:00.160 in the Expendables. He's known for doing that, and in 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.640 this movie you had Tommy Morrison, who was a legitimate 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.120 contender heavyweight division. Right, he was a legitimate heavyweight fighter, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:07.920 and it was a good story. 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:08.160 Man. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:12.600 But in this story and I'm not well, I'm not 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.840 saying he was punchy. He had what you caulle it 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.680 like a relaxed brain or something. Well, his brain was 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.920 really having ruggy yo dyl Sin who would remember Uncle 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.880 PAULI was saying, yeah, he's stupid to see it ever, Yeah, 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.040 but so I know it gets a lot of criticism. 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.080 It's still last on my list, but it's not as 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:31.880 bad as people say. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.640 But my list not terribly different than yours. Okay, you 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.920 give Rocky one the top spot because it's Rocky, It's 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:43.000 the og Academy Award winner. I'm ranking this based on 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.720 if I were flipping through the channels or if I 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.600 was on Netflix or Hulu, and I'm like, what would 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.000 I actually be like, you know what, I'll keep watching. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.080 This because I have to. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.200 I have to tell you, Rocky one would not be 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.679 the movie in twenty twenty four that I'd sit down 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:56.959 and be. 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:58.120 Like, I'll keep watching. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.040 I am a firm believer that Rocky two might be 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.280 one of the most underrated films of all time. There's 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:09.280 extra training montages when Adrian is in the hospital, Rocky 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.200 come here. If you don't, maybe you don't want me 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:13.920 to mix it up with Creed no more, We'll find 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:14.400 another way. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:15.160 And what does she say? 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:16.360 Just win? 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.679 And then what does Mickey say? What do we waiting for? 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:21.800 Every stadium? 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.640 Ship hits so hard? So I'm going Rocky Too is 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:26.120 number one? 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.760 Did you notice that, like Cobra Kai this season sort 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.679 of paid homage to that scene. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.640 A little bit. I did notice that. I mean, if 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.680 you haven't seen it, I don't want to spurl it. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.360 So I'm going Rocky Too is number one, and then 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.360 bye the fault I have to put you know, look 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:49.720 at the scene ween. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.320 What do we wait right now? 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.400 Played at every stadium to get the fans fired up? 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.520 Like all the montages are great, That's yeah, It's it's. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.320 Hard to rank. That's why everyone's gonna have a different 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:00.760 list here. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.640 So I'm going Rocky two in the top spot, just 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.280 at a pure you know respect, I have to put 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.640 Rocky one, the original, in the number two spots. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.839 I'll go two one. 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:15.440 Then of course the most entertaining Rocky Wall four Drago, 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.160 you know, the Roe PAULI in his robot and you know, 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.200 like going to Russia, Happy birth Day, polygy No, training 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.480 in the mountains, Dragos, in the gym Drogo. So Rocky 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.760 four most entertaining maybe the whole series. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.120 But then, by the way, that's when stallone is the 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.680 most slick and the most rich. So you love that 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.200 as a kid because in Roy remember I said Rocky 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.080 three poofy hair. I was getting a little cut, you know, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.720 I was getting in shape a little bit. By Rocky four, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.120 he's so rooted out and ripped and rich. As a kid, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:45.720 you're like, oh my god, this is great. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.360 You know, I think it's hard to really debate my 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.360 order two one, four, Then I'm going three. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.600 As much as I'm a Hogan fan. Here's my hero. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:54.719 As a child, I. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.760 Thought the Thunderlips thing was sort of cheesy. Clubber Lang 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.800 was great, though I loved how he lost dies Apollo 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.080 trains Rocky. There's a lot of good storyline in three, 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.640 so hard to even say that's not a top three. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.880 But two, one, four, three Balboa underrated, and even though 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.320 five is not as shitty as you remember, are still 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.360 the worst. It's still the worst of all these. And 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.959 you know what, I'll give Michael B. Jordan and stallone 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:22.040 and everyone credit. I thought all three Creed movies fantastic. 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:22.520 Same. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.960 So if you don't have past weekend plans after week 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.680 twelve of the NFL, maybe you go back and watch 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.960 the Ease. Come up your your own order again. I'm Rocky, 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.559 Rocky four, Rocky two, Rocky three, Balboa and five two 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.720 one four three Balboa five. That's Rich's order. What's yours? 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.840 Hit us up at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.400 Radio hashtag Rocky movie? 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:45.960 Can I tell you. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.679 Tag over promise our regular update anchor Dan Bayer. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.839 Yeah, he hasn't seen Rocky. I know, I can't believe. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:54.360 I know one day we're gonna have to take him 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.880 out for hibachi because he never had abaci and a 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:57.520 night of Rocky. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:58.520 There's something. 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.079 Listen, pick your things about people. Some of the people 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.400 I very much enjoy their company. The fact that he 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.360 hasn't seen Rocky, the fact that your girlfriend hasn't seen 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:08.320 The Wizard of Oz. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.840 Like there are movies where like Who Raised You? I know, 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.640 like comes Wove Come on? All right? 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.439 Well, hey, uh, there was records broken in the NBA. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.439 The NBA's back. I know a lot of people pumped 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:20.800 about this. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.040 Well, this was a cool story. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.240 Yeah. They also was a time stamp of man. James 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.120 Harden's been in the league for a minute. Now you've 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.880 I'm doing it on a high level for a long time. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.080 Used to be James not so Harden, James Soften. Yeah, 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:36.160 now James Harden climbed up to number two on three 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.040 point Leaders this week. Steph Curry obviously being pop dog 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.880 right there over thirty seven hundred three point shots. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.199 Yes, Steph Curry's three point records are like Jerry Rice's 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.239 receiving records. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.640 And no one's catching. It's like pun intended, no, for real. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.080 It's like when you look at Jerry Rice compared to 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.640 the other greates like Randy Moss, It's like how what 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.760 That's how Steph Curry, Like even the closest are not 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:58.240 even close. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:03.880 So James Harden surpassed Ray Allen for three point shots. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.640 Made the surprises on there, Kyle Korver assassin number seven, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:09.120 It's pretty cool. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.480 Reggie Millarson still playing, He's on the list. Hillard's still playing, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.440 He's on the list. Reggie Miller obviously, you know he's 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.319 on the list. Lebron James just for longevity reasons. You 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.640 know he's there, but you're like, damn, James Harden pasted 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.240 Ray Allen. He now has two thousand and nine to 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:30.319 seventy five. Ray Allen had two nine seventy three, and 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:34.840 you're like, dang, ray Allen came so close to three thousand. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.080 He'd be an elite company with Steph Curry. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:38.960 Mister three thousand. Listen. 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.280 There's a lot of people that come close to records 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.800 or just benchmarks, and I know that bothers the hell 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:44.760 out of a guy like Cavino. 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.640 It bothers me because Ray Allen is one of the greats, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.440 and he's known for his three point shot, and he 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.480 came so close. He came a half a season away, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.640 you know, of reaching three thousand. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.600 When you think about being a professional athlete, everyone's got 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.520 those numbers on their mind, like three hundred wins, five 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.959 hundred home runs, you know, so many touchdowns passing. They're 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.800 legendary marks and when you fall just shy. 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.960 You might say, who gives a shit? But it just 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:15.560 looks funny. 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.480 As a fan and as a kid who collected baseball cards, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.200 you would see these stats. You're like, oh, he's so 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.280 close to five hundreds. So that leads us to based 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.560 on the Ray Allen thing, and congrats to James Harden 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:32.080 again at number two falling short of milestones. So who 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.680 comes to mind when you start thinking of people or 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.720 athletes falling short of milestones. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.200 These athletes may genuinely say, who gives a shit? But 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.480 as a fan fans, you know, well, as fans we're 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.200 more critical than the player sometimes. So these are some 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.200 of the people that we're thinking in the back of 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.080 their mind. They must say, man, I couldn't have played 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.000 one more month, like two more games. 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.040 And by the way, you nailed it. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.360 Perfect segue, because the first one that comes to mind 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.280 for me as a Yankees fan, as a base ball 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:04.240 fan is Alex Rodriguez. Now keep in mind, he didn't 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.080 play in twenty fourteen. He was suspended, so seasoned down 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:11.640 the drain in twenty sixteen. I still don't know how 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.640 and why he only played sixty five games. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.000 He wasn't having his best season. 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.000 He was maybe in a little hot water, right, so 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.880 they just like ended his career at sixty five games. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.640 He ended up with six hundred and ninety six home 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.120 runs for for short. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.840 Home run shy of seven hund though of seven hundred. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:36.440 So look, Alex Rodriguez, who lives for baseball. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.040 I don't know how he sleeps with that, you know, 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.440 falling this short of a seven hundred home run milestone 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.880 again being an elite company, He's so close to seven hundred. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.880 He could have still played. He should have had well 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:49.840 over seven hundred. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:51.960 I mean, I don't know how many of those he 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.240 was juiced up for, but still he would have had 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.240 seven hundred six ninety six. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.440 There's a couple guys, and I knew one of them. This, 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.840 two guys that were stuck at three hundred and ninety 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.800 nine home runs. I know from baseball card collecting, Andrea 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.200 Scalarraga three nine. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:13.840 You know, even with that. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.920 Altitude in Colorado, he couldn't pop out one more. 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.880 All those Rockies were hitting bombs at that time. More, Yeah, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.600 three ninety nine, that sucks one more home run, and 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.920 you're like, in a different conversation, a different category, so 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.960 close to three ninety nine. And then a legendary ballplayer 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.720 also finished at three ninety nine, even though five hundred 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.520 is like the Hall of Fame of course landmark, but 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:38.880 still you want that number, right, al Kline of the 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.880 Tigers ended at three ninety nine. Legendary player for Detroit 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.520 and there's a legendary photo of him too. Spot of 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.040 him with like JFK in the background. Get all the 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:52.560 people in this photo al Kline, LBJ JFK, Jimmy Hoffa. 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:54.880 Yeah, so that's a wild photo. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:55.480 That's cool. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.880 On a throwback Thursday. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.360 I got I got a couple of football on Yeah, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:05.159 this is one that satisfies your ocd Okay, John l 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:11.040 Way exactly three hundred career touchdowns Like that's I mean. 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.520 Like any went out with two Super Bowls back to back. 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.560 I mean, talk about the best way to end your career. 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.640 This guy did it perfect. Did you call this guy 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.280 the finisher? I mean three career tuddies. There's dudes that 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.840 are labeled mister almost a lah Mike Musina, right, who 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.800 came so close to so many milestones. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.880 And then there's guy like the guy's like l Way, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.080 who just did it so perfectly and it's good to 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:33.440 be la. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.000 I'm bringing this guy up because I know he still 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.680 got guess in the tank even though they stink. The 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:43.520 Jets Aaron Rodgers currently has four hundred and ninety two tuddies. 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:47.240 Oh my goodness, he needs eight. I'm not wishing bad 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.280 on Aaron Rodgers eight for eight, but I mean, who's 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.360 this say he gets there? I mean, is he if 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.560 he plays one more year? For sure? But the Jets 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:56.280 are struggling. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.399 It's not like this guy's doing his old school Aaron 0:17:58.480 --> 0:17:59.880 Rodgers three tuddies a game. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.600 I'm like, who on, oh man, that's got to eat 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.159 him up. I mean he played something anyway. I mean, 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.040 we don't know, not at this rate. But yeah, four 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.960 ninety two for Rogers. And of course, I know you 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:13.040 wanted to bring up Warren Moon. 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.960 Kov He's got seventeen now, so with that said, he'll 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.320 get over five hundred just at this pace this year. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.880 But imagine, God forbid, he got a little banged up 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:27.520 and he doesn't come back, so again falling short of milestones. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.679 Warren Moon Yeah, listen, he played in the Canadian Football 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.439 leagu the CFL. He's a legend Hall of famer, but 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.960 he's like one game, he's two games shy of fifty 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.000 thousand yards. He's got forty nine, three hundred and twenty 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:43.560 five yards. 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.040 So yeah, when you combine his Canadian career his professional career. 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.719 The guy's done at all, but still forty nine and 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.560 change and then almost fifty thousand yards so close. I 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.280 got one that I don't think I didn't tell you this. Yeah, 0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:01.800 but there are four guys that you know, Okay, lifetime 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:03.639 average in Major League Baseball. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:05.600 Nine. 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:10.040 Now this is an active player. Mike Trout has an 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:14.639 opportunity to change that. So crossed Trout off. Three guys 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:19.080 that are done that wrapped it up like great MLB careers, 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.920 but their stat line to ninety nine. 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.679 Which is again three ninety nine in today's world, right 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:26.960