WEBVTT - Seth Littrell and the Air Raid

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbal. Come out for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be happy for day Edith State?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that? Whoo whoom? And now Dan and Tye welcome

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<v Speaker 3>back to the Solid Verbal. Boys and girls. My name

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<v Speaker 3>is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over there in

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<v Speaker 3>snowy New York City. My good friend Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Scheme Theme, Scheme Theme. I'm excited, ty, I'm a great

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<v Speaker 2>play that is right.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome one, Welcome all to what we're calling Scheme Theme Month.

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<v Speaker 3>Here all throughout the month of March on the Solid Verbal.

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<v Speaker 3>It is presented by our good friends over at Oliver's Apparel.

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<v Speaker 3>All month long, we're going to be diving into the

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<v Speaker 3>minutiam college football. Let's talk about offense, Let's talk about defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about secret languages that evolve around a system.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's figure out what the hell those big picture boards mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the ones that you see in the sidelines

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<v Speaker 3>of the funny Picture got my favorite time. What do

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<v Speaker 3>those mean? Let's figure it all out together, everything that

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<v Speaker 3>we combine to form a particular scheme that your favorite

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<v Speaker 3>team runs on a Saturday. That's what we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be focused on all throughout this month. And we are

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<v Speaker 3>super excited because we've got a great roster of guests

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<v Speaker 3>that are going to stop by and help us do

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<v Speaker 3>just that.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel, I am truly and I don't say this lightly.

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<v Speaker 2>We have let's see this month. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>give anything away. Obviously you already know if you've clicked

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<v Speaker 2>on this episode who. This episode features our new friend

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<v Speaker 2>Seth Latreuelle. Very excited to nerd out about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his backstory and his history and what he's doing in

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<v Speaker 2>Denton with North Texas is super interesting. But we've got

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<v Speaker 2>I think another head coach, another prominent head coach, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're very excited for. We've got a recent

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<v Speaker 2>star quarterback to talk about communication and game planning and

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<v Speaker 2>playbook stuff and how that all evolved at a huge place.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're gonna work of course, Krispy Brown. Yes, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we do this month without Krispy Brown? So

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna deep dive communication stuff on both sides of

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<v Speaker 2>the ball with Krispy Chris B. But we like calling

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<v Speaker 2>him Crispy of course. Of smartfootball dot Com. But we

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<v Speaker 2>have We've lined up all sorts of fun people to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, as you mentioned, and surely if you've downloaded the show,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what you're in for. We're very excited to

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<v Speaker 3>kick off scheme theme with Seth Latrell, the head football coach.

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<v Speaker 3>As you said, of the North Texas Mean Green North

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<v Speaker 3>Texas dan they were one and eleven before he took

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<v Speaker 3>over in twenty fifteen. Seth Latrell comes over his first

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<v Speaker 3>season in twenty sixteen, they go five and eight. Last

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<v Speaker 3>year they go nine and five. They've been to a

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<v Speaker 3>bowl game both years that he has been there. Last year,

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<v Speaker 3>the offense was all sorts of revd up, scoring thirty

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<v Speaker 3>five and a half points per game. He had a

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<v Speaker 3>sophomore quarterback in Mason Fine who threw for over four

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<v Speaker 3>thousand yards. There's a lot story of steam, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of positive momentum on what coach Ltrell is doing in Denton,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to talk about the air raid offense.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk about its place in college football

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<v Speaker 3>and in the football world as a whole in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>So pumped to get this started with coach Holtrell.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, and in case you don't know his background,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, he helped coach positions and then coordinate the offenses.

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<v Speaker 2>At Arizona, he was the running backs and tight ends coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately Gronk was injured when he was coaching tight ends

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<v Speaker 2>at Arizona, but obviously worked with our good, good digital

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<v Speaker 2>pal Nick Foles and Super Bowl champion It's right, worked

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<v Speaker 2>with Mitch Trubisky and Marquise Williams at North Carolina, Nate

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<v Speaker 2>Sudfeld another Super Bowl winning quarterback tie at Indiana, and

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<v Speaker 2>huge offenses at North Carolina, and to immediately come in

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<v Speaker 2>at North Texas, as you mentioned, going from a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>down place in an area that I think you should

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<v Speaker 2>be able to win given the talent and the huge

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<v Speaker 2>amount of high school football influence and availability, and to

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<v Speaker 2>win with the mean Green and turn that program around

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<v Speaker 2>quickly and not even just win, but they're super fun

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, and that I think goes a long way

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<v Speaker 2>when there are what one hundred and thirty teams to

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention to, and North Texas this year, especially with

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<v Speaker 2>Mason Fine, a really cool story to pay attention to.

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<v Speaker 2>So super pumped to talk to Seth Latrell because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is an up and coming or arrived coaching mind,

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<v Speaker 2>and to hear what his philosophies are, what he's been

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<v Speaker 2>through and how he views the evolution of offense is

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<v Speaker 2>something to look forward to.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to get into all that and much much

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<v Speaker 3>more Coach Latreill in just a few minutes. But before

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<v Speaker 2>today's guests. Everywhere he goes, he helps to put up yards,

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<v Speaker 2>coach positions, coordinated offenses. Texas Tech, Arizona, Indiana, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's engineering I guess not just a turnaround, but

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<v Speaker 2>their sustaining success North Texas. Seth Latrell, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going great. I appreciate you'all having me on. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always talk ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh can't wait? All right? So we're talking offense and

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<v Speaker 2>what you've done, what you've been doing, and obviously there's

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<v Speaker 2>a wide variety of schemes and terminology for those schemes.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you call how would you classify your offense?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a little hybrid of the air rate I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's the system I played in, and that's just

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<v Speaker 1>the system coach Harrow played in, our offensive coordinator, and

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<v Speaker 1>so everywhere I've been, it's always been a form in

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<v Speaker 1>some form of that in the passing game at least,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just getting cre creative at different places

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, what your strengths and weaknesses, who your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is, you know, and then also just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>evolve in the run game, making sure that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>still believe in running the football and being physical and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to be balanced enough to keep defensive of honest.

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<v Speaker 1>But again some years or different others, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been at Arizona where you know, at times of folds

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<v Speaker 1>we had to throw fifty times a game. After Gronk left,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have tight ends at the edge, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little bit different in our run game.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, since I've been in Indiana and North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>we've done a lot more run game and established from

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback run game. Just different schemes, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>most of it just kind of fit, you know, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>fits your team. You know, we're always going to have

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<v Speaker 1>our base system of what we do. I think year

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<v Speaker 1>in year out, it is a little bit different in

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<v Speaker 1>what you do, uh, just because of the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>and what you got around. You got to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you put them in the best situations to be successful.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all the players.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that process like feeling out the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>strengths and weaknesses of your quarterback. Is that something that

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<v Speaker 2>happens in the spring? Is I mean that happens you

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<v Speaker 2>can't really get a sense for it until you reach

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<v Speaker 2>live action. What is that sense of like, Okay, he

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<v Speaker 2>can do this, he do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of times, just through spring practice and

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<v Speaker 1>getting through spring and then fall camp, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>just building the system around him. Uh. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>first year is a little bit different because of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when Mason came in, we weren't projecting projecting him to

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<v Speaker 1>be the starter, but you know, through game one, I

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<v Speaker 1>think halfway through game one he ended up taking over

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<v Speaker 1>that job and kind of ran with the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Year one was definitely challenging for all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>implementing a new system, having a true professional quarterback, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so we we had to keep it pretty simple and

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<v Speaker 1>try to play you know, just try to play our

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<v Speaker 1>base stuff, you know, but this past year with his

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<v Speaker 1>experience kind of being here two in the system and

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<v Speaker 1>getting a lot more confidence and uh, we were able

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<v Speaker 1>to open the package up a little bit more. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a really good running back with Jeffrey Wilson, so

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<v Speaker 1>we also you know, build some of it around and

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that we were running the ball and uh

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<v Speaker 1>putting in you know, the different schemes that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was really good at running. And then uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just continuing to uh, you know, find different ways to

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<v Speaker 1>make Mason comfortable and continue to teach him the offense

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, reading defenses a year two just figuring

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<v Speaker 1>everything out. So you know, we evolved a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>this past year and we're going to continue to grow

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<v Speaker 1>and evolve. And you know, the biggest system is not evo.

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<v Speaker 1>Biggest thing is not evolving too much too fast, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure we keep it simple. That's still one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we like to do. And I take

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<v Speaker 1>that from coach leads and their rate. You know, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you know, keep your your your system simple

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<v Speaker 1>and your players are able to play fast. So you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have too much in but at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, you also want to evolve and grow, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you said that. So what does a year

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<v Speaker 2>one system look like? You said simple? You know, is

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<v Speaker 2>is it a matter of the number of plays? It's

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a matter of responsibilities When a quarterback's approaching

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<v Speaker 2>a line, what is that that base level to set up?

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<v Speaker 2>And as you mentioned, a fresh foot quarterback in a

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<v Speaker 2>new system, what is that year one what does that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of teaching process?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in the system, you know, we rely heavily on

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback to get us in good plays when they're not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being able to check it. And the more

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<v Speaker 1>you uh, you know, start trusting him and understanding that

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<v Speaker 1>he understands leverage and what they're trying to get accomplished,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you'll give him freedom. And so some of

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<v Speaker 1>that is just some of the stuff we check. Other

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<v Speaker 1>things just keeping formations as basic as possible. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>your base schemes, stuff you're going to do every single week,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure you wrap them enough to where you know

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<v Speaker 1>that they get comfortable with in it and trying not

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, again each week, coming up with too

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<v Speaker 1>many different schemes throughout a game plan at times, just

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<v Speaker 1>especially our on it's just better to run what you

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<v Speaker 1>run and keep it simple for those guys. And the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing, you just want to be able to let

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<v Speaker 1>them go out there and play fast and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with some familiar things.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think your offense is difficult to learn relative

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<v Speaker 3>to other schemes that might be out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I can't say that, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been in some of those other schemes. I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we feel like it's it's it's player friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have a three day install for a

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<v Speaker 1>based offense. You know, we we basically, uh install our

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<v Speaker 1>whole offense in three days. Now. It may be challenging

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<v Speaker 1>on the front end, you know, but it really helps us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's better to overload them in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>and then as they kind of get through either Spring

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<v Speaker 1>or Fall camp, you know, they they're able to once

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<v Speaker 1>it's all in, it's pretty much from there, just different

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<v Speaker 1>tags here or there. So you know, we believe in

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<v Speaker 1>putting a lot on them on the front end because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as much as most and you know, let

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<v Speaker 1>them grow within it and continue to watch tape and

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<v Speaker 1>understand it. But we basically run a three day script

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, we may change up formations or something

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<v Speaker 1>here and there. But we have base plays that we

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<v Speaker 1>run on day one, base plays day two, and base

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<v Speaker 1>plays day three, And you know, I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>gives us a lot of opportunities to rep those plays

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<v Speaker 1>and not just call them a couple of days or

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<v Speaker 1>times throughout a practice, but continue to rep them throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the whole practice.

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<v Speaker 3>To what degree, as a quarterback gets more comfortable in

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<v Speaker 3>your system, do you turn over some of the decision

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<v Speaker 3>making to him to help him modify, help him be

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<v Speaker 3>part of the scheme that you're that you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>run out there on a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. The more they get to know and again, understanding leverages,

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<v Speaker 1>the more time to have meeting with coach Row and

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<v Speaker 1>watching tape understanding again defenses leverages. We start allowing them

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<v Speaker 1>to do a little bit more and make more checks shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>And you got a guy like Graham Harrow, who his

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<v Speaker 1>senior year was h you know, my my last year

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<v Speaker 1>at Texas Tech. Uh. He had the freedom to check

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<v Speaker 1>every single play and he did it quite frequently just

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<v Speaker 1>because he understood what he liked and understood what they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to do. And the great thing for Mason,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a guy that's been in the system has

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<v Speaker 1>played in it. That understands that, you know, he's really

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<v Speaker 1>learning and gaining a lot of knowledge through through Graham

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<v Speaker 1>on just having another set eyes who has been there,

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<v Speaker 1>who's done it. So you know, I think that's helped

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<v Speaker 1>Mason grow even faster. But at the same time, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still we're still growing with him, and we're still not

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<v Speaker 1>putting too much on him, but we are giving more

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<v Speaker 1>freedoms as it goes. In the spring hadn't changed. We've

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<v Speaker 1>continued to, uh see how much we can we can

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<v Speaker 1>help him grow and start to take ownership of some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that we're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned this a little bit, Coach, but obviously you

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<v Speaker 3>run a hybrid version right of the air raid, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know you've had a chance over the course of

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<v Speaker 3>time to evolve that. Now you've got Graham Harrell as

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<v Speaker 3>your offensive coordinator. How have you seen defenses change their

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<v Speaker 3>approach to what you're doing? What is the state of

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<v Speaker 3>the air raid in twenty eighteen, just as it relates

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<v Speaker 3>to how people are trying to stop it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's again it's been a little different

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<v Speaker 1>back when we're at Texas Tech and really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>my last year there, and last maybe with Foals at Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>people were playing so much different because we were so

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<v Speaker 1>heavy and warrants balanced, and so people were playing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more coverages, you know, a lot more drop eight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you'd get certain blitzes, but for the most

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<v Speaker 1>part it was you know, it was kind of no

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say a little softer, but I mean just

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<v Speaker 1>pass past defense, you know, and just being able to

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<v Speaker 1>run the football. As I started cheating people up, your

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<v Speaker 1>play action passes have gotten a lot better. And again

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<v Speaker 1>it takes pressure off that quarterback and your own offensive line. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people us all sorts of ways. Now every

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<v Speaker 1>every week you're you know, you're you're seeing something a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different. You know, some teams come in and

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<v Speaker 1>play us a lot of too high. Other teams plays

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of single highs. So some guys this past year,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, we got a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>pressure than maybe we've got the previous years. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think, uh, people are again just like us.

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<v Speaker 1>They're game planning, they're adjusting and trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>see what best fits their game plan and who they have.

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<v Speaker 1>But by this time, you pretty much have seen everything

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<v Speaker 1>and you know there's well there's offense, defense, best teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that the schemes you know, usually weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>week out, you've seen some form of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with with different wrinkles and adjustments. But again, you just

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<v Speaker 1>continue to grow and develop your guys and your and

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<v Speaker 1>your coaching staff, making sure you're staying sharp en up

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<v Speaker 1>to date with everything you're seeing on tape. And again

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<v Speaker 1>it's football, just going out there and execute.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of those wrinkles or adjustments recently over the

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<v Speaker 2>last few years, and we just sawt in the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously the run pass option with some run run

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<v Speaker 2>blocking and the quarterback is reading various players to decide

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<v Speaker 2>whether he's going to hand it off or throw it quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>ar throw it deep whatever. When was the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you implemented that into your system and where

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<v Speaker 2>did you first see it?

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<v Speaker 1>We were doing a lot of that back when I

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<v Speaker 1>was at Indiana off the run tags, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>basically what we were doing was more of the screen

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<v Speaker 1>game off of it, maybe some sticks here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>some quick hits throws or quick out route throws to

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<v Speaker 1>the single receiver, having a maybe a three man game

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<v Speaker 1>with some of your inside zone outside zone stuff, your

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<v Speaker 1>three year server side. Maybe we're throwing some type of stick,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something like that. But it really evolved when

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<v Speaker 1>we went to when I was at North Carolina with

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<v Speaker 1>Coas Fedora, and you know, we started, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>getting more involved with reading safeties and second level defenders,

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<v Speaker 1>especially off some of your quarter stuff fit defenders when

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<v Speaker 1>they're rotating you know, single higher where they rotate and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe throwing some more glances or or post

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<v Speaker 1>routes and behind some different guys and trying to fill, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find that grasp in behind the linebackers or

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<v Speaker 1>fitting and the safety is getting down in a fit.

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<v Speaker 1>So it really started evolving more at North Carolina. And

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<v Speaker 1>again that's one of the things that early on here

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't put much on Mason that you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>can get challenging and you have to wrap it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So year one we weren't doing much of the run

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<v Speaker 1>pass off and stuff down the field. And so now

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, year two, we kind of put a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more of that in and and again he's

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<v Speaker 1>still getting comfortable with it, and the more you wrap it,

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<v Speaker 1>the better he gets. And some of it again, is

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<v Speaker 1>what you play against every day too. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>some of that stuff's a lot more, especially the second

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<v Speaker 1>level breeds are a lot more complicated when you start

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<v Speaker 1>getting three man front teams and extra cenders out of

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<v Speaker 1>space and knowing if they're blitzing or not, and so

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<v Speaker 1>versus some of the four man front teams. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just getting all the different looks that you can

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<v Speaker 1>get on those run pass option and the more you

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<v Speaker 1>can wrap, the more comfortable we get and the better

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<v Speaker 1>they get. So again, that's something that we've continued to

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<v Speaker 1>implement as we go, and again we haven't put all

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<v Speaker 1>of it in, but now that we were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>two years in the system of Mason and some of

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<v Speaker 1>our experienced guys are coming back, especially at the receiver position,

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<v Speaker 1>we're starting to do a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're in Texas obviously, which is the cradle of

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<v Speaker 2>high school. Those are the trends. You know, Texas opens

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<v Speaker 2>we see that bleed over to college and now it's

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<v Speaker 2>that quarterbacks coming in to college, especially from Texas or

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever, are are better prepared, you know, are more

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.159
<v Speaker 2>comfortable doing things like you know, running an air raid

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 2>type system, running our pos like do you feel like

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 2>you have to rep less because of their experience.

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just different now it's order to get

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody under center and short yard situation. So you know,

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>one strength becomes another another weakness, you know, and so

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it all evolves eventually, you know. And you know, I

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>think this really took off. You look at you know,

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 1>our first year back in nineteen ninety nine, when when

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 1>coach Stoops came in and brought Mike Leach. Not many

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>people were doing in the Big twelve the spread and

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the air raid type stuff. And there's a lot more

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:49.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, option and power eye type stuff, you know,

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.360
<v Speaker 1>power football, and I think that's really in the state

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>of Texas. So it was a lot like that. And

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:54.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think once the Big twelve kind of

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 1>took off and you know, it kind of started evolving

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>in high school and texts and you know a lot

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:03.919
<v Speaker 1>of teams start going more towards that spread, no huddle

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>up tempo. You know. I think, you know, when Texas

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>even have Vince Young, some of that stuff that they

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>are doing just kind of took off. And I think, yeah,

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>it continues. It's like a rotating door. I mean, all

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>these all these schemes, they end up going full circle

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>one way or another. Sure, hopefully one day we'll look up,

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll I'll be running a triple option out of the

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 1>other wishbone. Wudn't that be.

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 2>H And like most modern offenses, even the option, even

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 2>if it's a pro style, even if it's a spread

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 2>or an air raid whatever, everybody's running their offense at

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 2>various tempos. Sometimes they're more deliberate. Sometimes people are running,

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, at a faster tempo. And the keys for

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 2>everybody is communication. So I guess how does that change

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 2>when you're going from a more deliberate pace to sort

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 2>of a hurry up pace.

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, everything we do, we can run our entire offense

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and coive minute mode or hurry up mode. And I

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 1>think it's just find a way to It's like a language,

0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 1>it's like anything else, and making sure that you keep

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 1>everything as simple as possible. The more words you have

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 1>within a play, the more room for error there is

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>on communication, whether it's being through a signal or or

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a vocal. You know, I think as long as you

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>can try to keep it short and to the point

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you're not putting too much in you know, your play

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>calls the communication aspects easy. It's like learning another language,

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>like learning Spanish. Once you know it, it's you know

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.360
<v Speaker 1>or read to some people mean the color red red,

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and our offense maybe mean a formation, you know. So

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just learning that communication, learning that language, and keeping

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.439
<v Speaker 1>it simple for the guys, because again, I think sometimes

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>when it gets challenging is when you have too many

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>tags a play or too many words, and then there's

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>always there for communication when the more you have, the

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>more and more chances of the air you have. So

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>just trying to keep keep it as simple as possible

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to the communication process.

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 3>You talk about the teaching process, what do you find

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 3>to be the most challenging component of that. Is it

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 3>teaching players who just need a lot of information to

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 3>learn your system in the vocabulary, or is it teaching

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 3>your staff which might have experience but also some pre

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 3>existing habits or notions of their own.

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Both, there's no doubt us both and making sure you

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 1>hold each other can when they got to do the

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>same with me, because again, we all grow comfortable in

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the things that we've done in the past. So when

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>when when stuff gets challenging, you always want to go

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>back to maybe something else you did somewhere else, or

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>how you taught up somewhere else, And so it's making

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>sure you hold each other accountable. It starts with me

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>first and making sure that myself and our staff are

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.479
<v Speaker 1>on the same page and communicate well with each other.

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And then it goes down to our players. But the

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>biggest thing is you got to understand us. Everybody learns

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>different with some of the visual guys. Some guys have

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to write it down, others, you know, have to see

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it on tape. You know, it's everybody learns a little

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>bit different. You got to find each and every guy

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>and know each and every coach has to understand who's

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 1>in their position room, how do they learn, what's the

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>best way for them to learn, and you got to

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>teach them that way. And that's why it's it's it's

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 1>being a teacher. And you know, teachers all across the

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>country have to find different ways to teach in their

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>classrooms and every student's not the same. And so just

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>understanding that, putting your ego at the door and just

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>finding the best way to, you know, help help everybody

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 1>grow and get to the best they can. Base we

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>can be the best of the team. Yeah.

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 3>And to that end, coach, your promotion essentially from an

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 3>assistant head coach or assistant coach to the head football coach.

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 3>With more responsibilities, You've got more people underneath you. I

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 3>would imagine that there was a learning process there as well.

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 3>How did that process affect how you assess how you

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 3>apply your own scheme when it comes to game day?

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Did that change?

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 1>No? The biggest thing was, you know, just instead of

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>being you know, basically the head coach of the Allen

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>or you know, having forty something players, it goes to

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixteen players. It's still managing people, still

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>about relationships. To me, it's still about you know, getting

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 1>around your guys, hiring the best fits, not only best coaches,

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>but really the best guys that fit your culture and

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>are going to be believing and selling the same thing

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 1>to your players each and every day. And once you

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>hire those guys, you've got to coach them up on,

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, what you want and communicate well what you

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>want and then trust them to do their job. And

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>that's I've been very blessed to be around guys that

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>have hired me, have coached me up on exactly what

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 1>they're looking for and let me do my job. And

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, if you're always standing over someone

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>shoulder or browbeating, I don't. I don't think that's uh

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>that works as well. So you know everybody, you know,

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I think as a head coach, you've got to be

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>who you are. That's my personality. That's kind of the

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>way I was brought up to the business. And again

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>we got an unbelievable staff. You know, I can't say

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>enough about coach haerb Brant's done a great job. You know.

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm always going to be involved on offense. Uh, you know,

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm always going to you know, help game plan and

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>be a part of it and be coaching out there

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>on the field. And again I had to do it,

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you know with uh you know, Larry for Door and

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Wilson. Those two guys were offensive guys who really

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>helped me grow and learn. But the one thing, uh

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I I learned, especially from Larry for Doras is uh

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>he never questioned one call him on, you know, always

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>had the opportunity to learn from him and asked him advice,

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and uh, he was always there to help us game plan.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, he hired me

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to do a job, and uh, he let me do

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>my job, and that's no different than than what I

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>have to do with Graham again, coach him up and

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>making sure that we're putting our players in the best

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>situations to be successful, and then let him go out

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and do it, do a great job of doing it.

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And he's he he's done a fabulous job. He Uh,

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>he has no ego. And our entire staff I have

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>no egos. Everybody's here to do one thing, accomplished the

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>mission of winning football games and and and making sure

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>we're great mentors with these kids. And uh, you know

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>they've done a great job doing that. But I think

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Graham's special. You know, he's he's he has an unbelievable

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>right future. He's as sharp as I've been around in

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the game.

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 3>In the game, well, there's no doubt you guys have

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 3>done a tremendous job thus far at North Texas. There's

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 3>no reason to think that won't continue. And specifically, as

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 3>it relates to offense thirty five and a half points

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 3>per game last year, it's pretty apparent that you know

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 3>how to install your system and run it effectively. So

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 3>with that being said, where does this all go next coach.

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Are there any emerging trends that you see on the

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 3>horizon things around college football, just on offense that you

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 3>think will play a larger role next couple of years.

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. I think again, as offenses are evolving,

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>short defenses, and you know, they're doing a great job.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I think early on in some of the spread stuff,

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>some of the up tempo, no no huddle, you know,

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>they lagged behind a little bit defensively, rightfully. So, I

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>mean it's a challenge. And you know now that as

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>offense is evolved, the defenses the start of evolving, and

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>so now you know, just trying to find different ways

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to you know, I don't want to say stay ahead

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>of the curve, but just you know, different ways. If

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>guys are gonna you know, bring in more Nickels and

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, maybe maybe not as many what

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I call huge mike linebackers run stoppers, they're gonna have

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>athletic guys with speed. You know, I think, uh, you're

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to do some different things in the run

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>game and getting bigger guys, bigger sets, trying to pack

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, guys in a little bit more at times.

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>But who knows. I mean, I think it all evolves,

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and the biggest thing for us is whether it's year

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>one to year two has always been better? Uh, you know,

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>just because I think year two in the system, everybody

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>gets a lot more comfortable. You should obviously progress and

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>get better as we have, but you know the thing

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>is from year one to year two there's always been

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a big jump. The thing I always am concerned about

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>is year two, year three. Don't get comfortable, don't relax.

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Make sure you because again we have a lot of

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>returners back, and it's if you allow it to happen.

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>It's very easy to get relaxed and comfortable, and when

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you do that, you're fixing to get your head beat

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>in and not be as successful as you should be.

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>So it's just always trying to keep those guys on

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the edge, having a chip on the shoulder, understanding that

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>we have to get a day better, we have to

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>get a week better, and we have to put it

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>all together. It all starts over every single janney, where

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>after your bowl, it starts over and you go back

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>to day one and make sure that again you continue

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that edge and that chip on your shoulder of making

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>sure that you continue to grow and get better as

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>coaches and players.

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious because you run offenses now for so long

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>and you mentioned having you know, broader responsibilities now and

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 2>relationship building and sort of dealing with everything on a

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:49.959
<v Speaker 2>day to day basis, and you bring in Graham Harrell,

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.959
<v Speaker 2>of course you are familiar with before and now he puts,

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, his fresh eyes, his stamp on the offense

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and is running things on offense day to day. What

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.239
<v Speaker 2>has been that stamp? What has he added? What what

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 2>is he tweaked that you know, maybe you didn't see

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>before and you've thought, oh, that's that's sort of clever,

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>that's a good idea.

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Then just again just different tags that they've done

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>in their raid, in the passing game, some of the

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>passing game stuff that you know, we we maybe got

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>away from, uh you know, throughout the years. And then

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff, you know, some of the stuff

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I was maybe more comfortable calling other things than he

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 1>is one thing and I am the other, which is fine.

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has their uh, their go to plays, and every

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>personality is a little bit different, and so you know,

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>just making sure that again he has to stay true

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>to himself as well. And make sure he's the one

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna have to call it on game day. So,

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>like I tell him all the time, there's different things

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that we'll look at it. I may have done a

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>couple of different tags here and there that you know,

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe he's not as comfortable with and we'll rep him.

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>And if he's not, I tell him to throw him out,

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>because again, you're not gonna call him if you're not

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with them. So to some of that, you know,

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I think again, uh, him getting around me and maybe

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>some of the right game he hadn't been around over

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the last few years, and so uh, you know, I

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>think he's really learned to evolve with that and having

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to call it. And I think we're pretty balanced last year.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I think actually we're we're around fifty two forty eight

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>somewhere around there, run past and uh, he's done a

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>great job of managing the offense. But uh, you know, again,

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody has their own personality and how they how they

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>call things, what they like. And again some of us

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that and again some of us what you have, who

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback is, who's the run back? What do we

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 1>have up front? What are we what are we doing

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to take care of you know, maybe some of the

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>areas that we're we're not as strong and and how

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.280
<v Speaker 1>do how do we fit the It's all a puzzle.

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 1>How do you fit it together to be successful? And

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's fun watching him, watching him grow and

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>do it. And again our whole staff again, they work

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>very well together and it's been great.

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>And of course it's sort of early springtimes is when

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 2>everybody starts freaking out over the NFL drafts and you

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 2>now have a super Bowl winning quarterback, a super Bowl

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 2>winning backup quarterback. You obviously worked with Mitch Trubisky at

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, so you sort of have an idea about

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, high high level development of quarterbacks in your

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>system and beyond. So I guess, aside from heavier shotgun

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>versus under center like you mentioned, where does the teaching

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 2>and experience differ from more traditional pro style type schemes

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 2>and more air raid, wide open schemes, where is that

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>teaching different?

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think again, concepts or concepts to me, whether

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you're under center, in the in the shotgun again, you're

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 1>you're running a lot of the same concepts, you know,

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and with different tags. Maybe here there your run game

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>under center, maybe look a little different on the footwork

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff, but are still inside zone, still

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>inside's own you know, pen and pool, still pen and pool.

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 1>I think where it comes is the more you do

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 1>from shotgun a pistol formation to under center. You've got

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>to work those different techniques of you know, center snapped exchange,

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>you know your your your run game, polish uh from

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>under center, Uh, from the gun to the pistol, your plans,

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>your footwork, you know, your your your rhythm, three steps

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and all that. And so the more you do and

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>then those different whether you're undergun or pistol, I think

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just more the fundamentals. It's just teaching the different

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>fundamentals and then having enough reps uh, you know, to

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>where you can be good at all of it. And again, uh,

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>that that's the biggest challenge to me. It's it's the

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>more you do. It's not so much yeah, scheme wise

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>as well, but also the fundamental just the basic fundamentals

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 1>of just center uh, quarterback exchange. You know you're polished

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>from there. Again, it's when guys haven't done it. It's

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>not like you just walk up behind the center and

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>snap the ball and be able to run in side zone.

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work. But you gotta rep it and the

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>more you wrap it, the better you get. But again,

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>some of us time we only had. There's only so

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.359
<v Speaker 1>much time in the week with a twenty hour rule.

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is to be able to rep and polish

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>everything to where you're you're good at.

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 2>It fair enough. And this is my most important question,

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 2>in my last question, because I love food to an

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 2>unhealthy degree. What's what's the best thing, what's the best

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 2>thing you've eaten in the like sort of DFW Denton area.

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 2>What what is your number one bite, your number one

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 2>meal that that you've had up there?

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Man, there's there's so many great places around here and

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>the again, you know, when I do go out, man,

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>it's going to sound pretty base stuff here. But I

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:49.399
<v Speaker 1>haven't been around the Rudi's here in a long time.

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>And I like me some barbecue, and we do already

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>shows shows a Rudies, So I'll go to Rudy's all

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>day long. But there's a there's a number of great

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>restaurants around here. There's a great banana pudding soon, No,

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt. And again I can sit Rudy.

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 2>They'd all have okay, Seth Latrell North Texas Mean Green,

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 2>an unbelievable turnaround job. He's been producing big offenses for

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 2>a while, an up and coming program, an up and

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 2>coming coach. Very cool to uh to nerd out with

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 2>you over offensive stuff and thank you for coming on

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:22.720
<v Speaker 2>and we're looking forward to twenty.

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Eight Absolutely, I appreciate you. Man. We got to go

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>go hey, we got to get a whole lot better

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>if we get to twenty eighteen. Now we get a

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>long way to go from when need to open that

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>season up.

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.720
<v Speaker 3>All right, Dan, there you have it. It is coach

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Seth Latrelle from the North Texas Mean Green and that

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 3>was awesome. He's really good.

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they and he's really good. And the Mean Green

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 2>last year were really good. You look at their numbers

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 2>just looking back how efficient they were. And just year two,

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Mason find did a great job. What do you say

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 2>through for over four thousand yards thirty plus touchdown passes

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:01.720
<v Speaker 2>and from what I can can tell, am I smart

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 2>tie not particularly, But here's my opinion. Cepha Charles going places.

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 2>That name is going places, and you know, hopefully it's

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 2>at North Texas for a long long time because that's

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.919
<v Speaker 2>a good place to be tie you have that much

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 2>local talent, you can win games. So looking forward to

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 2>seeing the evolution of the Me and Green and beyond.

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 2>So I could not be happier we were able to

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 2>have Seth on the show.

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And to that end, whenever you've got someone on

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 3>who is in the midst of a turnaround like the

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 3>one we're seeing in Denton, that's pretty exciting to just

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 3>be part of, you know, in whatever small way we

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 3>can be a part of that and bring that onto

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:47.280
<v Speaker 3>the show again. North Texas one and eleven in twenty fifteen,

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 3>the first year there, they win five games. Last year

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 3>he wins nine games. Excited to see where he goes

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 3>in twenty eighteen. He said it at the end there

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 3>as you hear so many coaches say, we got to

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 3>get better, got to keep churning this thing forward. But

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 3>if two years is any indication, coach Latrell knows what

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 3>he's doing, he knows how to build something, and it's

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 3>great to have him on here as part of our

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 3>first scheme theme episode of March twenty eighteen.

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 2>As far as I can tell ty, I know the

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Chinese New Year has like a different animal you know,

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 2>it's the year of the monkey, it's the year of

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 2>the dog, whatever, year of the Rats.

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 2>It almost feels like between the huge year for North

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Texas between Mitch Trubisky who he worked with, he was

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Markis Williams backup at North Carolina, but I think they

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 2>overlapped a couple of years for the tar Heels and

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 2>then having not one but two Super Bowl rings go

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 2>to past Seth Latrell quarterbacks and Nick Foles and Nate

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Sudfeld sort of feels like the year of Latrell. Yeah,

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 2>we have the summer of George did the year of

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Latrell could be the year of Latrell.

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 3>It's been a good year, Okay, I'm fine with that.

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Cool to have him on Friend of the Podcast. Yes,

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 3>all right, Well, we appreciate everyone downloading, listening. Please do

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0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:26.120
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0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 3>the college football world. Dan, I'm excited, got a lot more,

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 3>a lot more good stuff to come.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called outside tie for heating up the pod.

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<v Speaker 3>Boom. Okay for that guy over there, my good friend

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Dan Rubinstein, and big thanks to our new friend coach

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Seth Latrelle from the North Texas, Mean Green. This is

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