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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for day Edith State?

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Speaker 3: Is that? Whoo whoom? And now Dan and Tye welcome

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Speaker 3: back to the Solid Verbal. Boys and girls. My name

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Speaker 3: is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over there in

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Speaker 3: snowy New York City. My good friend Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 3: how are you?

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Speaker 2: Scheme Theme, Scheme Theme. I'm excited, ty, I'm a great

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Speaker 2: play that is right.

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Speaker 3: Welcome one, Welcome all to what we're calling Scheme Theme Month.

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Speaker 3: Here all throughout the month of March on the Solid Verbal.

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Speaker 3: It is presented by our good friends over at Oliver's Apparel.

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Speaker 3: All month long, we're going to be diving into the

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Speaker 3: minutiam college football. Let's talk about offense, Let's talk about defense.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about secret languages that evolve around a system.

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Speaker 3: Let's figure out what the hell those big picture boards mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, the ones that you see in the sidelines

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Speaker 3: of the funny Picture got my favorite time. What do

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Speaker 3: those mean? Let's figure it all out together, everything that

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Speaker 3: we combine to form a particular scheme that your favorite

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Speaker 3: team runs on a Saturday. That's what we're going to

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Speaker 3: be focused on all throughout this month. And we are

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Speaker 2: Daniel, I am truly and I don't say this lightly.

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Speaker 2: We have let's see this month. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: give anything away. Obviously you already know if you've clicked

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Speaker 2: on this episode who. This episode features our new friend

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Speaker 2: Seth Latreuelle. Very excited to nerd out about, you know,

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Speaker 2: his backstory and his history and what he's doing in

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Speaker 2: Denton with North Texas is super interesting. But we've got

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Speaker 2: I think another head coach, another prominent head coach, which

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Speaker 2: I think we're very excited for. We've got a recent

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Speaker 2: playbook stuff and how that all evolved at a huge place.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna work of course, Krispy Brown. Yes, of course,

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Speaker 2: how do we do this month without Krispy Brown? So

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Speaker 2: we're gonna deep dive communication stuff on both sides of

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Speaker 2: the ball with Krispy Chris B. But we like calling

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Speaker 2: him Crispy of course. Of smartfootball dot Com. But we

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Speaker 2: have We've lined up all sorts of fun people to

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Speaker 3: Today, as you mentioned, and surely if you've downloaded the show,

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Speaker 3: you know what you're in for. We're very excited to

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Speaker 3: kick off scheme theme with Seth Latrell, the head football coach.

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Speaker 3: As you said, of the North Texas Mean Green North

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Speaker 3: Texas dan they were one and eleven before he took

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Speaker 3: over in twenty fifteen. Seth Latrell comes over his first

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Speaker 3: season in twenty sixteen, they go five and eight. Last

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Speaker 3: year they go nine and five. They've been to a

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Speaker 3: bowl game both years that he has been there. Last year,

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Speaker 3: the offense was all sorts of revd up, scoring thirty

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Speaker 3: sophomore quarterback in Mason Fine who threw for over four

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Speaker 3: of positive momentum on what coach Ltrell is doing in Denton,

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Speaker 3: and we're going to talk about the air raid offense.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about its place in college football

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Speaker 3: So pumped to get this started with coach Holtrell.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, and in case you don't know his background,

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Speaker 2: At Arizona, he was the running backs and tight ends coach.

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Speaker 2: So super pumped to talk to Seth Latrell because I mean,

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Speaker 3: We're going to get into all that and much much

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Speaker 1: It's going great. I appreciate you'all having me on. It's

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Speaker 2: Oh can't wait? All right? So we're talking offense and

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Speaker 2: what you've done, what you've been doing, and obviously there's

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Speaker 2: a wide variety of schemes and terminology for those schemes.

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Speaker 2: What would you call how would you classify your offense?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. The more they get to know and again, understanding leverages,

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Speaker 3: You mentioned this a little bit, Coach, but obviously you

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's again it's been a little different

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Speaker 2: So one of those wrinkles or adjustments recently over the

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Speaker 2: So you're in Texas obviously, which is the cradle of

449
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: high school football, and everybody sort of credits you know,

450
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: high school. Those are the trends. You know, Texas opens

451
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: things up maybe before a lot of people outside of

452
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: the the lone star state in terms of offense, and

453
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: we see that bleed over to college and now it's

454
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: bleeding over to the NFL. Are you getting a sense

455
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: that quarterbacks coming in to college, especially from Texas or

456
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: for whatever, are are better prepared, you know, are more

457
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 2: comfortable doing things like you know, running an air raid

458
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Speaker 2: type system, running our pos like do you feel like

459
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Speaker 2: you have to rep less because of their experience.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just different now it's order to get

461
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Speaker 1: somebody under center and short yard situation. So you know,

462
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: one strength becomes another another weakness, you know, and so

463
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: it all evolves eventually, you know. And you know, I

464
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: think this really took off. You look at you know,

465
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Speaker 1: our first year back in nineteen ninety nine, when when

466
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Speaker 1: coach Stoops came in and brought Mike Leach. Not many

467
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: people were doing in the Big twelve the spread and

468
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Speaker 1: the air raid type stuff. And there's a lot more

469
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Speaker 1: you know, option and power eye type stuff, you know,

470
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Speaker 1: power football, and I think that's really in the state

471
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Speaker 1: of Texas. So it was a lot like that. And

472
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Speaker 1: you know, I think once the Big twelve kind of

473
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Speaker 1: took off and you know, it kind of started evolving

474
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Speaker 1: in high school and texts and you know a lot

475
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Speaker 1: of teams start going more towards that spread, no huddle

476
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: up tempo. You know. I think, you know, when Texas

477
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: even have Vince Young, some of that stuff that they

478
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: are doing just kind of took off. And I think, yeah,

479
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Speaker 1: it continues. It's like a rotating door. I mean, all

480
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Speaker 1: these all these schemes, they end up going full circle

481
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Speaker 1: one way or another. Sure, hopefully one day we'll look up,

482
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Speaker 1: we'll I'll be running a triple option out of the

483
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Speaker 1: other wishbone. Wudn't that be.

484
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Speaker 2: H And like most modern offenses, even the option, even

485
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Speaker 2: if it's a pro style, even if it's a spread

486
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Speaker 2: or an air raid whatever, everybody's running their offense at

487
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Speaker 2: various tempos. Sometimes they're more deliberate. Sometimes people are running,

488
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: you know, at a faster tempo. And the keys for

489
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Speaker 2: everybody is communication. So I guess how does that change

490
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Speaker 2: when you're going from a more deliberate pace to sort

491
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Speaker 2: of a hurry up pace.

492
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Speaker 1: Well, everything we do, we can run our entire offense

493
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Speaker 1: and coive minute mode or hurry up mode. And I

494
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Speaker 1: think it's just find a way to It's like a language,

495
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Speaker 1: it's like anything else, and making sure that you keep

496
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Speaker 1: everything as simple as possible. The more words you have

497
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Speaker 1: within a play, the more room for error there is

498
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Speaker 1: on communication, whether it's being through a signal or or

499
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Speaker 1: a vocal. You know, I think as long as you

500
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Speaker 1: can try to keep it short and to the point

501
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: you're not putting too much in you know, your play

502
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Speaker 1: calls the communication aspects easy. It's like learning another language,

503
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: like learning Spanish. Once you know it, it's you know

504
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: or read to some people mean the color red red,

505
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: and our offense maybe mean a formation, you know. So

506
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Speaker 1: it's just learning that communication, learning that language, and keeping

507
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: it simple for the guys, because again, I think sometimes

508
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Speaker 1: when it gets challenging is when you have too many

509
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Speaker 1: tags a play or too many words, and then there's

510
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Speaker 1: always there for communication when the more you have, the

511
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: more and more chances of the air you have. So

512
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Speaker 1: just trying to keep keep it as simple as possible

513
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Speaker 1: to the communication process.

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Speaker 3: You talk about the teaching process, what do you find

515
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Speaker 3: to be the most challenging component of that. Is it

516
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Speaker 3: teaching players who just need a lot of information to

517
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: learn your system in the vocabulary, or is it teaching

518
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Speaker 3: your staff which might have experience but also some pre

519
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: existing habits or notions of their own.

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Speaker 1: Both, there's no doubt us both and making sure you

521
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Speaker 1: hold each other can when they got to do the

522
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: same with me, because again, we all grow comfortable in

523
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: the things that we've done in the past. So when

524
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Speaker 1: when when stuff gets challenging, you always want to go

525
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Speaker 1: back to maybe something else you did somewhere else, or

526
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Speaker 1: how you taught up somewhere else, And so it's making

527
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Speaker 1: sure you hold each other accountable. It starts with me

528
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Speaker 1: first and making sure that myself and our staff are

529
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Speaker 1: on the same page and communicate well with each other.

530
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Speaker 1: And then it goes down to our players. But the

531
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Speaker 1: biggest thing is you got to understand us. Everybody learns

532
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: different with some of the visual guys. Some guys have

533
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Speaker 1: to write it down, others, you know, have to see

534
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: it on tape. You know, it's everybody learns a little

535
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Speaker 1: bit different. You got to find each and every guy

536
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Speaker 1: and know each and every coach has to understand who's

537
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: in their position room, how do they learn, what's the

538
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: best way for them to learn, and you got to

539
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: teach them that way. And that's why it's it's it's

540
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: being a teacher. And you know, teachers all across the

541
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: country have to find different ways to teach in their

542
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: classrooms and every student's not the same. And so just

543
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: understanding that, putting your ego at the door and just

544
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: finding the best way to, you know, help help everybody

545
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: grow and get to the best they can. Base we

546
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: can be the best of the team. Yeah.

547
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: And to that end, coach, your promotion essentially from an

548
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: assistant head coach or assistant coach to the head football coach.

549
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: With more responsibilities, You've got more people underneath you. I

550
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: would imagine that there was a learning process there as well.

551
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: How did that process affect how you assess how you

552
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: apply your own scheme when it comes to game day?

553
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: Did that change?

554
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Speaker 1: No? The biggest thing was, you know, just instead of

555
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: being you know, basically the head coach of the Allen

556
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: or you know, having forty something players, it goes to

557
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixteen players. It's still managing people, still

558
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: about relationships. To me, it's still about you know, getting

559
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: around your guys, hiring the best fits, not only best coaches,

560
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: but really the best guys that fit your culture and

561
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: are going to be believing and selling the same thing

562
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Speaker 1: to your players each and every day. And once you

563
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: hire those guys, you've got to coach them up on,

564
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: you know, what you want and communicate well what you

565
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: want and then trust them to do their job. And

566
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Speaker 1: that's I've been very blessed to be around guys that

567
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: have hired me, have coached me up on exactly what

568
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: they're looking for and let me do my job. And

569
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, if you're always standing over someone

570
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: shoulder or browbeating, I don't. I don't think that's uh

571
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: that works as well. So you know everybody, you know,

572
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: I think as a head coach, you've got to be

573
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: who you are. That's my personality. That's kind of the

574
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: way I was brought up to the business. And again

575
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: we got an unbelievable staff. You know, I can't say

576
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: enough about coach haerb Brant's done a great job. You know.

577
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm always going to be involved on offense. Uh, you know,

578
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm always going to you know, help game plan and

579
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: be a part of it and be coaching out there

580
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: on the field. And again I had to do it,

581
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: you know with uh you know, Larry for Door and

582
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: Kevin Wilson. Those two guys were offensive guys who really

583
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: helped me grow and learn. But the one thing, uh

584
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: I I learned, especially from Larry for Doras is uh

585
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: he never questioned one call him on, you know, always

586
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to learn from him and asked him advice,

587
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: and uh, he was always there to help us game plan.

588
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, he hired me

589
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: to do a job, and uh, he let me do

590
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: my job, and that's no different than than what I

591
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: have to do with Graham again, coach him up and

592
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: making sure that we're putting our players in the best

593
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: situations to be successful, and then let him go out

594
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: and do it, do a great job of doing it.

595
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: And he's he he's done a fabulous job. He Uh,

596
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: he has no ego. And our entire staff I have

597
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: no egos. Everybody's here to do one thing, accomplished the

598
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: mission of winning football games and and and making sure

599
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: we're great mentors with these kids. And uh, you know

600
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: they've done a great job doing that. But I think

601
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Speaker 1: Graham's special. You know, he's he's he has an unbelievable

602
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: right future. He's as sharp as I've been around in

603
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: the game.

604
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Speaker 3: In the game, well, there's no doubt you guys have

605
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: done a tremendous job thus far at North Texas. There's

606
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: no reason to think that won't continue. And specifically, as

607
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: it relates to offense thirty five and a half points

608
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: per game last year, it's pretty apparent that you know

609
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Speaker 3: how to install your system and run it effectively. So

610
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Speaker 3: with that being said, where does this all go next coach.

611
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Speaker 3: Are there any emerging trends that you see on the

612
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: horizon things around college football, just on offense that you

613
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Speaker 3: think will play a larger role next couple of years.

614
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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think again, as offenses are evolving,

615
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: short defenses, and you know, they're doing a great job.

616
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Speaker 1: I think early on in some of the spread stuff,

617
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Speaker 1: some of the up tempo, no no huddle, you know,

618
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Speaker 1: they lagged behind a little bit defensively, rightfully. So, I

619
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Speaker 1: mean it's a challenge. And you know now that as

620
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Speaker 1: offense is evolved, the defenses the start of evolving, and

621
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Speaker 1: so now you know, just trying to find different ways

622
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Speaker 1: to you know, I don't want to say stay ahead

623
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Speaker 1: of the curve, but just you know, different ways. If

624
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: guys are gonna you know, bring in more Nickels and

625
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: and and you know, maybe maybe not as many what

626
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Speaker 1: I call huge mike linebackers run stoppers, they're gonna have

627
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Speaker 1: athletic guys with speed. You know, I think, uh, you're

628
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to do some different things in the run

629
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Speaker 1: game and getting bigger guys, bigger sets, trying to pack

630
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Speaker 1: you know, guys in a little bit more at times.

631
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Speaker 1: But who knows. I mean, I think it all evolves,

632
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: and the biggest thing for us is whether it's year

633
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: one to year two has always been better? Uh, you know,

634
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Speaker 1: just because I think year two in the system, everybody

635
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: gets a lot more comfortable. You should obviously progress and

636
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: get better as we have, but you know the thing

637
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Speaker 1: is from year one to year two there's always been

638
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: a big jump. The thing I always am concerned about

639
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: is year two, year three. Don't get comfortable, don't relax.

640
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Speaker 1: Make sure you because again we have a lot of

641
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: returners back, and it's if you allow it to happen.

642
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: It's very easy to get relaxed and comfortable, and when

643
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: you do that, you're fixing to get your head beat

644
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: in and not be as successful as you should be.

645
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: So it's just always trying to keep those guys on

646
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: the edge, having a chip on the shoulder, understanding that

647
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: we have to get a day better, we have to

648
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: get a week better, and we have to put it

649
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: all together. It all starts over every single janney, where

650
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Speaker 1: after your bowl, it starts over and you go back

651
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: to day one and make sure that again you continue

652
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: that edge and that chip on your shoulder of making

653
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: sure that you continue to grow and get better as

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Speaker 1: coaches and players.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious because you run offenses now for so long

656
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: and you mentioned having you know, broader responsibilities now and

657
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: relationship building and sort of dealing with everything on a

658
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 2: day to day basis, and you bring in Graham Harrell,

659
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Speaker 2: of course you are familiar with before and now he puts,

660
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: you know, his fresh eyes, his stamp on the offense

661
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: and is running things on offense day to day. What

662
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 2: has been that stamp? What has he added? What what

663
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: is he tweaked that you know, maybe you didn't see

664
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Speaker 2: before and you've thought, oh, that's that's sort of clever,

665
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: that's a good idea.

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00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then just again just different tags that they've done

667
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: in their raid, in the passing game, some of the

668
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: passing game stuff that you know, we we maybe got

669
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: away from, uh you know, throughout the years. And then

670
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: some of the stuff, you know, some of the stuff

671
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: I was maybe more comfortable calling other things than he

672
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: is one thing and I am the other, which is fine.

673
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Everybody has their uh, their go to plays, and every

674
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: personality is a little bit different, and so you know,

675
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: just making sure that again he has to stay true

676
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: to himself as well. And make sure he's the one

677
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: who's gonna have to call it on game day. So,

678
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: like I tell him all the time, there's different things

679
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: that we'll look at it. I may have done a

680
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: couple of different tags here and there that you know,

681
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: maybe he's not as comfortable with and we'll rep him.

682
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: And if he's not, I tell him to throw him out,

683
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: because again, you're not gonna call him if you're not

684
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: comfortable with them. So to some of that, you know,

685
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: I think again, uh, him getting around me and maybe

686
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: some of the right game he hadn't been around over

687
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: the last few years, and so uh, you know, I

688
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: think he's really learned to evolve with that and having

689
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: to call it. And I think we're pretty balanced last year.

690
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: I think actually we're we're around fifty two forty eight

691
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: somewhere around there, run past and uh, he's done a

692
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: great job of managing the offense. But uh, you know, again,

693
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: everybody has their own personality and how they how they

694
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: call things, what they like. And again some of us

695
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: that and again some of us what you have, who

696
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback is, who's the run back? What do we

697
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: have up front? What are we what are we doing

698
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: to take care of you know, maybe some of the

699
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: areas that we're we're not as strong and and how

700
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: do how do we fit the It's all a puzzle.

701
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: How do you fit it together to be successful? And

702
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's fun watching him, watching him grow and

703
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: do it. And again our whole staff again, they work

704
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: very well together and it's been great.

705
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: And of course it's sort of early springtimes is when

706
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: everybody starts freaking out over the NFL drafts and you

707
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: now have a super Bowl winning quarterback, a super Bowl

708
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: winning backup quarterback. You obviously worked with Mitch Trubisky at

709
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: North Carolina, so you sort of have an idea about

710
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: you know, high high level development of quarterbacks in your

711
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: system and beyond. So I guess, aside from heavier shotgun

712
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: versus under center like you mentioned, where does the teaching

713
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: and experience differ from more traditional pro style type schemes

714
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: and more air raid, wide open schemes, where is that

715
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: teaching different?

716
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Well, I think again, concepts or concepts to me, whether

717
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: you're under center, in the in the shotgun again, you're

718
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: you're running a lot of the same concepts, you know,

719
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: and with different tags. Maybe here there your run game

720
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: under center, maybe look a little different on the footwork

721
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but are still inside zone, still

722
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: inside's own you know, pen and pool, still pen and pool.

723
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: I think where it comes is the more you do

724
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: from shotgun a pistol formation to under center. You've got

725
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: to work those different techniques of you know, center snapped exchange,

726
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: you know your your your run game, polish uh from

727
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: under center, Uh, from the gun to the pistol, your plans,

728
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: your footwork, you know, your your your rhythm, three steps

729
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: and all that. And so the more you do and

730
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: then those different whether you're undergun or pistol, I think

731
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: it's just more the fundamentals. It's just teaching the different

732
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: fundamentals and then having enough reps uh, you know, to

733
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: where you can be good at all of it. And again, uh,

734
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: that that's the biggest challenge to me. It's it's the

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00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: more you do. It's not so much yeah, scheme wise

736
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: as well, but also the fundamental just the basic fundamentals

737
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: of just center uh, quarterback exchange. You know you're polished

738
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: from there. Again, it's when guys haven't done it. It's

739
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: not like you just walk up behind the center and

740
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: snap the ball and be able to run in side zone.

741
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: It doesn't work. But you gotta rep it and the

742
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: more you wrap it, the better you get. But again,

743
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: some of us time we only had. There's only so

744
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: much time in the week with a twenty hour rule.

745
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: Whatever it is to be able to rep and polish

746
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: everything to where you're you're good at.

747
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: It fair enough. And this is my most important question,

748
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: in my last question, because I love food to an

749
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: unhealthy degree. What's what's the best thing, what's the best

750
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: thing you've eaten in the like sort of DFW Denton area.

751
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: What what is your number one bite, your number one

752
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: meal that that you've had up there?

753
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: Man, there's there's so many great places around here and

754
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: the again, you know, when I do go out, man,

755
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: it's going to sound pretty base stuff here. But I

756
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: haven't been around the Rudi's here in a long time.

757
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: And I like me some barbecue, and we do already

758
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: shows shows a Rudies, So I'll go to Rudy's all

759
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: day long. But there's a there's a number of great

760
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: restaurants around here. There's a great banana pudding soon, No,

761
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. And again I can sit Rudy.

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00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: They'd all have okay, Seth Latrell North Texas Mean Green,

763
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: an unbelievable turnaround job. He's been producing big offenses for

764
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: a while, an up and coming program, an up and

765
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: coming coach. Very cool to uh to nerd out with

766
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: you over offensive stuff and thank you for coming on

767
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 2: and we're looking forward to twenty.

768
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: Eight Absolutely, I appreciate you. Man. We got to go

769
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: go hey, we got to get a whole lot better

770
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: if we get to twenty eighteen. Now we get a

771
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: long way to go from when need to open that

772
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: season up.

773
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 3: All right, Dan, there you have it. It is coach

774
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: Seth Latrelle from the North Texas Mean Green and that

775
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: was awesome. He's really good.

776
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they and he's really good. And the Mean Green

777
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 2: last year were really good. You look at their numbers

778
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: just looking back how efficient they were. And just year two,

779
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: Mason find did a great job. What do you say

780
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: through for over four thousand yards thirty plus touchdown passes

781
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 2: and from what I can can tell, am I smart

782
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: tie not particularly, But here's my opinion. Cepha Charles going places.

783
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: That name is going places, and you know, hopefully it's

784
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: at North Texas for a long long time because that's

785
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 2: a good place to be tie you have that much

786
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: local talent, you can win games. So looking forward to

787
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: seeing the evolution of the Me and Green and beyond.

788
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: So I could not be happier we were able to

789
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: have Seth on the show.

790
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And to that end, whenever you've got someone on

791
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: who is in the midst of a turnaround like the

792
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: one we're seeing in Denton, that's pretty exciting to just

793
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: be part of, you know, in whatever small way we

794
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: can be a part of that and bring that onto

795
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: the show again. North Texas one and eleven in twenty fifteen,

796
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: the first year there, they win five games. Last year

797
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 3: he wins nine games. Excited to see where he goes

798
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen. He said it at the end there

799
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 3: as you hear so many coaches say, we got to

800
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: get better, got to keep churning this thing forward. But

801
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: if two years is any indication, coach Latrell knows what

802
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 3: he's doing, he knows how to build something, and it's

803
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: great to have him on here as part of our

804
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: first scheme theme episode of March twenty eighteen.

805
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: As far as I can tell ty, I know the

806
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: Chinese New Year has like a different animal you know,

807
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: it's the year of the monkey, it's the year of

808
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: the dog, whatever, year of the Rats.

809
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: Right.

810
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: It almost feels like between the huge year for North

811
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: Texas between Mitch Trubisky who he worked with, he was

812
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: Markis Williams backup at North Carolina, but I think they

813
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: overlapped a couple of years for the tar Heels and

814
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: then having not one but two Super Bowl rings go

815
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: to past Seth Latrell quarterbacks and Nick Foles and Nate

816
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: Sudfeld sort of feels like the year of Latrell. Yeah,

817
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: we have the summer of George did the year of

818
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: Latrell could be the year of Latrell.

819
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: It's been a good year, Okay, I'm fine with that.

820
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Speaker 3: Cool to have him on Friend of the Podcast. Yes,

821
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: all right, Well, we appreciate everyone downloading, listening. Please do

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Speaker 3: the college football world. Dan, I'm excited, got a lot more,

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Speaker 3: a lot more good stuff to come.

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Speaker 2: It's called outside tie for heating up the pod.

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Speaker 3: Boom. Okay for that guy over there, my good friend

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00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: Dan Rubinstein, and big thanks to our new friend coach

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Speaker 3: Seth Latrelle from the North Texas, Mean Green. This is

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