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Speaker 1: alongside James Brandenburg from the back Country Hunters and Anglers

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Speaker 1: which is uncommon. But well, directly owled again, and one

424
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: gobbled closer on the ridge with us, but still pretty

425
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: far away. M h. And then what happened Bear John

426
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Cam Then we kind of got within like two hundred

427
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: yards of it and what we thought it was. And

428
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: then we kind of got down on these trees and

429
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: because Zach is left handed, he took the tree on

430
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: the left. Because I'm right handed, I take the tree

431
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 1: on the left, and we kind of sat there, so

432
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: we were within about seven eight feet of each other.

433
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: So we and for the most part even with each

434
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: other based upon where we felt like a hercuy was

435
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: gonna come from. And uh, you know, we wanted to

436
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: keep safety in mind. We didn't want to get everybody

437
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: too far apart. We'd had a safety briefing beforehand, make

438
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: sure everybody was clear on who's gonna shoot, win in

439
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: which direction, and all of that. So we were well prepared.

440
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: And and and our our philosophy was is that if

441
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: it came in well, our philosophy was that no one

442
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: was gonna pass the shot waiting for someone else to shoot.

443
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: But if we're sitting pretty much side by side, whoever

444
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: is on the right is taking the bird. If he's

445
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: more to their side, and it was on the left,

446
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: whoever's taking the birds is, you know, more to their side.

447
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: But I talked to these boys and neither one of

448
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: them had killed a turkey before. Of how these public

449
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: land gobblers you better, you better take advantage of the situation.

450
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: Which was a little bit of a good thing to

451
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: keep in mind. Remember this podcast listeners. Yeah, you know,

452
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 1: about the time that you start thinking that everything's okay

453
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: and you've got time with a turkey is usually about

454
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: the time you lose him. So you better capitalize on

455
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: the first shot you get. Also, these woods were much

456
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: more open than what I was used to hunting and

457
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: what you're used hunting to. Absolutely, Yeah, that was the

458
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: thing that just blew me away, is how open. It was,

459
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: so I mean we could see a hundred yards and

460
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: a lot of easily easily a hundred yards. Yeah, so

461
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: we we really didn't know that a hundred percent because

462
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: I hadn't been in these woods in a long time.

463
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: We just rooted this bird and I could see what

464
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: it looked like right there where I was at, but

465
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: I really didn't know what it looked like down there

466
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: on the ridge. And uh so when we got in there,

467
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: it's super open, and so I knew that this bird

468
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: is gonna have to be coming to us through a

469
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: lot of open country, which can be difficult. And so we,

470
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: uh we set up on this bird two hundred yards

471
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: called it ain't I believe it? Answered me twice off

472
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: the roost. And then that's when I saw a bird

473
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: about eighty nine yards away, kind of skirting around us,

474
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: and I said, I see a bird. And then you

475
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: guys saw a bird that I didn't see that just

476
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: came right up in our lap. And we're still undecided

477
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: if it was a jake or a hen, but I

478
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: mean it was twenty yards from us, right, I mean,

479
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Zack's got pretty good eyes and he spotted it first.

480
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: Zack have the head set go ahead, James. So so

481
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: right after you had seen the one across the road,

482
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: and I couldn't quite hear what you were saying, So

483
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: I was we were playing a telephone a little bit,

484
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: so Zach relayed to me, and so I was sitting

485
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: real still, and then and then Zack goes, oh, I

486
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: see it, I see it. There it is, And uh,

487
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: the other one evidently was real close, I mean twenty

488
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: yards probably, and we couldn't ever make it for legal turkey, right, Zack,

489
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: what what did you see when you were looking at

490
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: it from from the neck up? It looked looked like

491
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: a gobbler, But there was I mean, there was no

492
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: beer that you could see just just looking at him.

493
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: And it was still kind of a little little dusky,

494
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: so we didn't have real good light yet that the

495
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: sun clearly was not quite up above the horizon yet,

496
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: we didn't have any light on the trees or anything.

497
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it was we were legal, but it wasn't

498
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, it was that very first half hour time,

499
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: you know where where it's really right when you're hoping

500
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: to kill one. Yeah, yeah, you're trying to pull as

501
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: many details out, and I mean everything else was perfect

502
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he she It gave us everything you'd wanted,

503
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: except it didn't didn't prove that it was a male turkey.

504
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: When I first saw it, I thought that's a jake.

505
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: I felt like it was tall, and I felt like

506
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: it was dark, but I just didn't see a beard.

507
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: But sometimes a jake beard can be so small it

508
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: just looks like a little feather sticking out or something

509
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: that can be very short. And I and it, and

510
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: it was, you know, it wasn't light enough to tell.

511
00:31:54,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: You couldn't see anything sticking out as a as appeared,

512
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, and I was looking at if he would

513
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: have been a little farther away, I had to put

514
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: my binoculars on him. But you know, we were pinned,

515
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, we had to sit there still. So we

516
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: had let him walk, which was a good thing. And

517
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: so we sat there for probably thirty minutes, trying to uh,

518
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: trying to get the work these verds, and just trying

519
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: to assess the situation, you know, where they're birds coming in,

520
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: where there was there another time around that just hadn't

521
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: gobbled that was coming in, or you know, what was happening.

522
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: And so finally, after forty five minutes, I said, hey,

523
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: let's just leave these birds. They're not going very far,

524
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: and let's just keep walking down this ridge and calling. Well,

525
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: this was about let's just say, three quarter of a

526
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: mile long big finger that just had this beautiful flat

527
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: top and was just great walking, easy walking, and there's

528
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: some of the easiest walking hunting that I've ever done. Yeah,

529
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: we were just walking down kind of an old trail

530
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: and uh, we walk and one of my favorite ways

531
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: of turkey hunt is just you know, kind of run

532
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: and gun, which is just walk and cut about every

533
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: two yards, just a loud, aggressive cut and just kind

534
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: of walking, slow listening, walking slow listening, but then calling

535
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: and trying to shock Gobble one. And long story short,

536
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: at what time do we hear that you called and

537
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: that Turkey answered us? Round nine? I think it was

538
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: around eight thirty or nine. I mean we it was

539
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: fairly had taken our time to get there, but it

540
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: was still pretty early in the morning, you know. I

541
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: think it was by nine o'clock that we were down there,

542
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: and James called on his slate and one just answered,

543
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: just right cut me off. Yeah, I mean that's exactly

544
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: what you wanted, you know. He he cut me right off.

545
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: And he was I'd say he was within a hundred

546
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: yards easily, easily. Yeah, he was close, and we all

547
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: four of us just dropped to the ground, found the

548
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: nearest tree boys, got their guns up, and I was

549
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: just expecting a bird to be killed in the next

550
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: minute and a half, two minutes, you know, I mean,

551
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: that's what I thought was about to happen. Yeah, I

552
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: sat down. I mean that time, I sat down so

553
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: quickly that I was in the least comfortable position I

554
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: could possibly be in that you know. Number one, the

555
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: sense of urgency to get down there and and uh

556
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: get situated quickly. And number two, I didn't think I

557
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: was gonna be there very long. And after about I

558
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: don't know, two minutes or so, I've I pretty quickly

559
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: regretted that everything fell asleep. Zach, what do you think

560
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: so you you hadn't this was your first morning to

561
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: really work some bird. Was that pretty exciting here in

562
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 1: that turkey? Yeah, we worked before, but they've never they've

563
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: never come, they've never been actually close to us. We've

564
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: never seen a turkey while we've been hunting. Yeah, I

565
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: mean that turkey was it was close. It almost made

566
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: my ears ring. Yeah, Yeah, so that was pretty exciting,

567
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: pulling down thinking he's about to pop over the ridge.

568
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I thought we had that one for sure,

569
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: but he never showed nope, So we just it was

570
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: just a classic shot gobble with a bird that probably

571
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: had hands that didn't want to work. And uh, I

572
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna call to him again. I was just gonna

573
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: let him come in. But after probably five or six minutes,

574
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't time is just I don't even know. It

575
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: may have been longer than that, it may have been

576
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: shorter than that. But finally I called again nothing, and

577
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: so I'm like, okay, well I'm not gonna cough. Called twice.

578
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: He knows we're here. And we sat there. We sat there,

579
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: We sat there, we sat there. We probably sat there

580
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: over thirty minutes. Do you think, uh, it probably not

581
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: quite thirty minutes, I'd say, judging about how and you

582
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: know where I looked and kind of checked where we were,

583
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: it was probably about fifteen or twenty minutes. We sat

584
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: there and waited, though. Yeah, yeah, we sat there until

585
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: the bird never gobbled. We've never heard him gobble on

586
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: his own. You called on your slate that he originally

587
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: answered nothing, and what do we say. We said, well,

588
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: we'll come back to this bird mid morning when he

589
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: didn't have hands. He's not ready to die, and so

590
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: we pretty much hunted back the way we came and

591
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: about nine thirty we decided just to take a rest,

592
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: and so we kind of just sat down. The boys

593
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: took a nap, and we kind of just chilled out

594
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: listening for a turkey. But the idea was to go

595
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: back right into that area mid morning, you know, between

596
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: ten and noon. That was kind of what I was

597
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: thinking and hopefully get that bird to gobble again. But

598
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: little did we know how it would all pan out

599
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: would be pretty cool. So we uh, at ten o'clock,

600
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: it was after I got a text from my buddy

601
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: whose son killed a turkey. At ten o'clock, we said, okay,

602
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: it's time to go back in there. So we're probably

603
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: a half a mile from there where we were kind

604
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: of yeah, I'd say it's half a mile back and forth. Yeah,

605
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: so we're a half mile away. At ten o'clock, we

606
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: start walking back into this area where we heard the

607
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: turkey gobble, and uh, and I called one time, hey bear,

608
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: Bear is a sleep Wow, that's amazing. Smoke is in

609
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: my eyes. This is like a real legit camp side

610
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: podcast with boys who've been turkey having hard all day

611
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: and are tired. Um. So we we called a couple

612
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: of times on the end before we got there. Nothing nothing,

613
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: didn't hear anything. And then Baron zach Or in front

614
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: of me and James and we kind of come up

615
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: over a little rise and look down through kind of

616
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: a little saddle, the low spot, and I see something

617
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: that just isn't right. Everybody knows what that feels like

618
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: when you think you see game and you just tell

619
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: everybody to just slam on the brakes. And what I

620
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: saw was a deer. I saw a deer, and I

621
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: just said, you know the dad, the excited dad voice,

622
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, both of these voice recognized it immediately,

623
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: didn't you bear You know that voice, don't you? And

624
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: and so they slammed on the brakes. And I'm trying

625
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: to evaluate what I believe I've seen. And I'm looking

626
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: at a deer down there at about eight nine yards

627
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: and I can't see the deer's head or the deer's

628
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: but I just see his mid section. I'm looking at

629
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: this deer and I'm telling the guys there's a deer

630
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: down there, and you know we're not deer hunting, but still,

631
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: you don't just spook game. When you see game, you

632
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: stop and try to learn something or watch them. Well,

633
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: this deer hadn't seen us, because I was I later

634
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: would see it drop its head and feed, and right

635
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: over like I could see him between these two trees,

636
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: and right over that deer's back about thirty yards, I

637
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: see what appears to be a turkey. And Dad asked

638
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: if the turkey was riding on top of the deer's back,

639
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: and I don't believe that it was, but from the

640
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: angle that I looked, I mean, it was like this

641
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: deer in this turkey. It looked like they were sitting

642
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: side beside, and I go, there's a turkey there too.

643
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: There's a deer in the turkey. And I'm trying and

644
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: you're holding your left arm. You're holding your left arm out,

645
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: and everybody it's like we're playing freeze tag and everybody's frozen.

646
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: Not a person's twitching a muscle. Yeah, had my arm

647
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: out to tell the boys to stop, and I just

648
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: never put my arm down because when I saw that turkey,

649
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he saw us he saw something, and

650
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: I just knew it was about to spook. I knew

651
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: this whole thing was about to blow up, and the

652
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: turkey was about to fly off, and the deer was

653
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: about the flag and run, and everybody froze so quick.

654
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: It took about a minute to realize neither of these

655
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: animals were aware of us, but that I could see

656
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: that turkey's at that time, his head was just white.

657
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: Uh you know, he just this bright look, white looking

658
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: head down there. And I saw it twitching, moving around,

659
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: and then I saw it. I saw it lean out

660
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: and gobble, and I said, did y'all hear that? And everybody, now, James,

661
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: did you hear it go the first time? I think

662
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: it did. Yeah, Well the thing gobbles, and so I

663
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: just say, guys, everybody to the ground as slow as possible.

664
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: And so these boys did awesome. I mean, just like

665
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: statue still. They just moved to the ground, low, low,

666
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: low low, And once you got about kneeling distance from

667
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: the ground, the turkey couldn't see just the way the landlaide,

668
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: and so they everybody dropped to their stomachs, basically, and

669
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out what to do. Did we

670
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: try to call this bird in. But if we move

671
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: around much, he's gonna see us. I mean, these things

672
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: can see so good. And so we kind of just

673
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: sat there and just watched and watched, and Washington. Finally

674
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: I said, let's just let that bird walk off and

675
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: then we'll go down there and call him in. That

676
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: was the idea. And so I don't know how long

677
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: we sat there and watched this turkey, but we did.

678
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: And finally he just turned and just started walking away

679
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: from this deer. And the deer just kind of passed

680
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: through the saddle and went down off the ridge, and

681
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: this turkey just kind of walks away, and uh, we

682
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: hear him gobble as he's leaving. It's ten thirty by now,

683
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: and he's clearly alone. And I did not see a

684
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: big beard, but I felt like by his gobble, and

685
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: I saw him struck one time. I felt like it

686
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: was a long beard, but I couldn't see a beard.

687
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: He gobbled and then apparently kept walking because the next

688
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: time he gobbled, he was pretty far away. And I

689
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: just said, Okay, guys, here's what we're gonna do. What

690
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: do we do? Jane Wels, We all got up quickly

691
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: moved in that direction, but kept kept down, so we

692
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: were kind of hunched down. We moved up probably what

693
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: fifty yards maybe I don't even know if we went

694
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: quite that far, but we moved up on him. Found

695
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: a good spot where we we had a little bit

696
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: of cover between us and him, you know, one of

697
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: the few spots probably in the woods where there was

698
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of stuff down there to break up

699
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: our outline. And UH kind of resumed the positions that

700
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: we had been assuming all morning, you know, Zack on

701
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: the right and Bear on the left, and got all

702
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: set up and got comfortable that time, got comfortable and

703
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: got ready, and we we put out a decoy, which

704
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: I don't think did it's any good, but I had.

705
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: I had a cheap little decoy that I just set

706
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: on a kind of a brush pile out there, just

707
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: thinking maybe he would see it key in on it.

708
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: And once we got ready, I said, here we go,

709
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: and I called work, work, work, work work. He just

710
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: answered right away, and that's always a good sign. And

711
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: so you know, everybody knew what happened where everybody was ready,

712
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: and I gave him two or three minutes, and I

713
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: really wanted to know did he cut any of the distance,

714
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: and so I soft, you know, three or four note yelp,

715
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: and and he had he was coming. He was closer.

716
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: And that's when I told Bear. I was like, Okay,

717
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: get ready, man, he's gonna be He's coming. Um. I

718
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: think we heard him gobble three more times, maybe just

719
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: two more times, and I think I may have called

720
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: one more time. I think I called to him three

721
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: times and um, and he finally Zach went it was

722
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: Zach saw him out there about eighty yards and then Bear,

723
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: how far was he when you first saw him? Probably

724
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: just about that far. He was just like out there,

725
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: he was out of range. But I could see him

726
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: in between these two trees. And I kept on seeing

727
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: little glimpses of his head go by, his bright red head. Yeah,

728
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: so man, that is that is so to me. That's

729
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: the best part of calling in a turkey is at

730
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: first moment when you see that red head coming and uh, now, Barry,

731
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: you've never killed a turkey. And I just I he

732
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: the way he was coming. He he was veeringto Bear's side.

733
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: He was just that's just kind of the way he

734
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: was coming. You know. We set up quick and and

735
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: we actually there was a pond right out in front

736
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: of us, which probably and we we kind of gar

737
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: hold Zack, I think, you know, but that was what

738
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: we had, you know, And he could have just as

739
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: easily gone off the other way and come right down

740
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: the road, and you guys would I mean, you had

741
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: to shoot over Zack's head. So it's just the way

742
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: it worked out. You know. Zach saw him out there

743
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: pretty early on and watched him and and you know,

744
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: we couldn't I couldn't hear you really at all. Um,

745
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: But Zack and I were whispering back and forth, and

746
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: we kind of had it all planned out. You know.

747
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: Zack's like, Okay, well, if he goes on this side

748
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: over here, he's gonna that'll be bears, and and I

749
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: was looking at it. I was like, yeah, it's probably

750
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: probably what's gonna happen. And acts like okay, well yeah, yep, yep, okay, yep.

751
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 1: There he goes he's going that way. I said, all right, well,

752
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: keep your safety on me, be ready to go. And

753
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: uh so we just sat there and when once and

754
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: he could see him way better than I could, like

755
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: I was just had way more stuff in the way.

756
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: So I catch a glimpse of it, of him every

757
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: little bit. But then when he got probably seventy yards,

758
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, that's about the time that I could kind

759
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: of see him and looking around and kind of bobbing

760
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: his head up and down, you know, like they come in.

761
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: And I was kind of sliding off to my left,

762
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: so we just watched him work that direction. Well. He

763
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: I quickly realized that with this opener terree and that

764
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: it was gonna be hard to get him just right

765
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: in our lap. And also felt that by the time

766
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: it took him to cover the distance that he did,

767
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: because he didn't just come running in. He was taking

768
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: his time. He was a little wary. He I don't

769
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: think he did you ever see him strut Zach No,

770
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: he said, no, Uh so he I mean, he was

771
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: coming in, but he was he was not He wasn't

772
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: seeing what he wanted to see yet, you know, And

773
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of what you were thinking, is kind of

774
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: what I was thinking as he was coming in. Well,

775
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: and so what I told Bear was I it is

776
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: I just said, hey, the first clear shot, you get

777
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: that turkey, shoot it and uh and I finally solid turkey,

778
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: and I felt like the turkey was in range and

779
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: it ended up being a little bit further than I

780
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: thought it was. But I told him to shoot. I said,

781
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, it was clear that he was gonna he

782
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: was gonna skirt tar left and I saw there was

783
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: a long beard, saw its red head, and uh, I

784
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: thought the turkey was probably forty five yards and we've

785
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: got a good twelve gage three inch, good choke and

786
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: uh when Bear saw him, boom and what happened Bear, Well,

787
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: he kind of like came out from between these two trees,

788
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: and I couldn't see his whole body. I could just

789
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: see like his front half of his head, and I

790
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: just put it right at the base of his wattles

791
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: and shot him. And then the gun kind of kicked

792
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: up so I couldn't see him, and then I brought

793
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: it back down ready to shoot again. But I saw

794
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: his wings flapping, and you said, he's down, and it

795
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: was a done deal. It rolled man and man, we

796
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: had him. And it was a nice year old bird,

797
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: nine a three quarter inch beard. We didn't get to weighing,

798
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: but it was a heavy bird for a two year

799
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 1: old bird, and uh, Man, we were pumped. I felt

800
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: like we stole that turkey because later later today, the

801
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: weather turned terrible, you know, I mean it's been raining

802
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: all afternoon. We were gonna try to get Zack back

803
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: out this afternoon hunting, and I mean it's just been

804
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: storming all evening. There's stuff blowing around right now. And

805
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: uh so we we had, you know, between the this

806
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: being a spot that we really hadn't intended to hunt,

807
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: we kind of just lucked into roosting a bird there

808
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: to go in like we did, and uh and for

809
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: it to just work out just like you wanted to,

810
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: you know, to kill a bird at ten thirty when

811
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: he's by himself as kind of what you want to do.

812
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like that was just like textbook turkey hunt.

813
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: Set up on the roost, work birds. They don't come in,

814
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: shot gobble one that's probably got hands, and then come

815
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: back mid morning ten thirty, loan turkey and kill. It

816
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: is just like textbook. So I told these boys that

817
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: they really probably learned a lot and could learn from

818
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: that that hunt just as a kind of a textbook

819
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: turkey hunt. Yeah, they got a good education this morning.

820
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: That's what you wanted a youth hunt, you know, you

821
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: want them to get out. We saw, you know, while

822
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: we were walking, we saw many different kinds of tracks

823
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: that we could kind of stop and identify, um, you know,

824
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: what the animals were that were in the area. We

825
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: had different kinds of reactions to the calling, so we

826
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: could kind of hear maybe what we interpret is kind

827
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: of half hearted jake gobbles and and then mature gobblers

828
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: talking to us. We heard a little bit of you know,

829
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: that first one passed by us. Don't know if there

830
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: was another hand back behind us, but you know, we

831
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: heard some little soft yelps, so they were moving through. So,

832
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of all the different things that

833
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: you can go through in a turkey hunt, you know,

834
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: aside from that, if if the one that he shot

835
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: had gotten away from us and we had to kind

836
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: of try to get around him, might have been the

837
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: only thing that that we could have added to it,

838
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: I think today. But I'm so thankful for the whole,

839
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: the whole entirety of the experience. You know. Yep, it

840
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: was a great morning a turkey hunting on public land

841
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: down here, really was really was, man, I told Bear,

842
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: there is very few things that I feel as accomplished

843
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: from doing as killing a turkey on a beautiful spring day.

844
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's there. It's a it's a it's an

845
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: irreplaceable feeling. And uh, just coming out of the woods

846
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: with a big gobbler swinging on your back, it's fun

847
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: and it being bears first bear. What do you think?

848
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: You probably don't like this very much. You probably won't

849
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: do it again. I definitely want to do it again.

850
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: Uh well, well, uh, hopefully we get some good weather

851
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: so we can get zack on some birds in the morning. Hopefully,

852
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get some We don't need much, we don't

853
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: need much of a break. Just a little break, just

854
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: enough to get in position is all we need, ye

855
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: to hear one? Uh, Dad, what do you think? Well?

856
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 1: I was pretty impressed, you know that you guys could

857
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: go in there and do what you did. It was.

858
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: It was really a good Turkey story, and I like

859
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,479
Speaker 1: the way you said it. It was a really good

860
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: example of how those birds uh behave You know, the

861
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: gobblers were with the hens early the hens go to

862
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: nest probably wouldn't you agree, And they don't have of a,

863
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: they don't have hend they're not hend up at that point.

864
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: So you know, that's the best time that I found

865
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: to call him in and you know, I don't know

866
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: that you could have done it any better with more

867
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: drama than what you guys pulled off. And I was

868
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: pretty pretty impressed with it myself. Yeah, well it was

869
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: super fun. I love the youth turkey hunt because you know,

870
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: you get to get out with you know, we've done

871
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot. We've youth turkey hunted every year since uh

872
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: probably my daughter would have been seven years old, so

873
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: the last eleven years. I don't think we've missed a

874
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: youth turkey season. And we've taken a lot of people,

875
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: not just my kids, but we've taken you know, three

876
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: years ago, our buddy David killed them, so okay, And

877
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: I said this to Zach to make him feel better.

878
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: Three years ago, Bear was in Zack's position, two boys

879
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: sitting side beside, and the turkey came to the other

880
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: boys side and he killed his first turkey. You know.

881
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: So it's kind of it's just kind of way it goes.

882
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: But uh so we've we've taken a lot of people.

883
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: We've doubled up a couple of times like this, um My,

884
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: my uh old stars kill a turkey. My middle daughter

885
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: missed a turkey. But turkeys are hard to come by

886
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: for us. I mean, like you don't you don't get

887
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity at him. The youth Turkey season short,

888
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,479
Speaker 1: but it's so good because there's not as many people

889
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: if we'd have been in there. So Monday's opening a

890
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: adult Turkey season, there'll be people, I feel like, all

891
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: over that. And but youth Turkey season you kind of

892
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: get a pass and you can get in there. And

893
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool with the older boys who are strong

894
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: enough and able to walk like men. You know, you're

895
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: not dragging around a eight year old, which which we've done.

896
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: We we've done it, We've and I've called up a

897
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: lot of turkeys for these young young kids that can

898
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: hardly hold up a shotgun and don't get a shot,

899
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, and that's fun for them. But it's it's

900
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: cool to capitalize on it. But but a good day, yeah, yeah, definitely,

901
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to get out there and

902
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: do that, especially you know, as stressful as the spring

903
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: has been, to just get together and and uh have

904
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get out and you know, and that's

905
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: what hunting does a lot of times. You know, you

906
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: can you can boil life down into its essential things

907
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: of eating, sleeping and going and finding your food in

908
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: the woods. You know, you it's like a oh, it's

909
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: it just kind of distills away all the impurities. And

910
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: and that's I think why turkey hunting in the spring

911
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: is so enjoyable, because you get all that all that renewal.

912
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: You know, the deer are they're moving around a little bit,

913
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: they're they're not quite as frightful, you know, so you

914
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: get chances to sit and watch, which we did today

915
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: after after we got that turkey on the ground, you know,

916
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: we had that little that little light colored deer come

917
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: in and just kind of sit there and look at

918
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: us like what are those things and what are they doing?

919
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: You know? And uh and it just it's it's good

920
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: too to be able to get out and do that

921
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: and and uh so thankful for the opportunity. And we'll

922
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: get Zach on a bird for sure. I mean that

923
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: may not be, may not be this weekend, or it

924
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: might be, you know, but there's one thing I know

925
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: about Zach Brandenburg is that he'll be begging to go

926
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: back out as soon as he can. Well there's something

927
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: honorable about something not coming easy. I mean, Bear told

928
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: me on the way walking out of the woods. Today,

929
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: we split up, y'all went on and hunt and hunted

930
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: out a certain way, and we went back to the

931
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: truck with a turkey. And Bear said he's hunted every

932
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: year in Arkansas for the last eight years. And that's true.

933
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: He's so he's fourteen. So how long have you hunting

934
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: since you were That's the first year I took you

935
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: turkey in when you were six years old. That's when

936
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: it's legal for you to hunt in Arkansas. And uh

937
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: so he's had it every year and hadn't killed turkey yet.

938
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: So but I also said that he has been third

939
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: string quarterback because his sisters older sisters always got to

940
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: go and be the number one person on the youth

941
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: turkey hunt, and then his younger brother didn't even make

942
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: the traveling squad. Uh So Shephard hadn't even got to go.

943
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: But Shephard will be up next year maybe. But what

944
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to build Barry in, and I know you're

945
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: trying to build Zack into, and we're training these boys

946
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: to where they can go do this on their own,

947
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's you learned so much by

948
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: somebody calling in birds for you, like Dad learned back,

949
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, and he learned turkey out pretty much by himself,

950
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: but he went with a few good guys at different times,

951
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: and you learned so much when you go with good

952
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: turkey hunters. It's invaluable that this is one of the

953
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: one of the kinds of hunting. We're having somebody else

954
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: show you what to do. You can watch all the

955
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: videos you want, but man, I mean, Zach and I

956
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: had done a lot, and you know, Zack's older brothers too,

957
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: have done a lot of stumbling around in the woods

958
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: looking for turkeys, listening, you know, calling and whatever. But

959
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: you know, even a couple of years ago, I had

960
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: a buddy of mine who loved turkey hunt and he

961
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: took me and we did. It was the same deal.

962
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: You know. First morning was tough. We went out and

963
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: we heard a little bit, but you know, we couldn't

964
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: do a lot of running and gunning and and didn't

965
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: get a chance to really go to any birds that morning.

966
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: And then next morning we woke up and wha, you know,

967
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: they were just hammering right away and right where we

968
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: were camping. So it was basically jump into your clothes

969
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: and and run at the birds, you know, and then

970
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: I still got to experience a lot of stuff even

971
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: as part of that. That's where I decided I could

972
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: do this. You know, I was just trying it out

973
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: every year for several years until then. And so you know,

974
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: being able to get out there and and learn something

975
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: from somebody else is is a good way to to

976
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: get into this. So so if you're a good turkey hunter,

977
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: take somebody else out with you sometime and show him

978
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: a few things. For sure, Bear would you learn today?

979
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean to steal it down. Part of being a

980
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: being a uh, what's the what's the word? Unaware, intelligent,

981
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: self reflective person is to be able to do stuff

982
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: and then be able to understand what you learned. What

983
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: did you learn today, Zach? Your next O? Well, I

984
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: feel like I haven't really like the past, all the

985
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: other years that I've been turkey hunting, it's you know,

986
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: like you said, I've kind of been like third string,

987
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: so it hasn't been like as serious, you know, So

988
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't really like paying as much attention. But this

989
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: time I was paying a lot more attention, and I

990
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: kind of like realized that there's a lot more strategy

991
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: to the like when you call how you call where

992
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: you go, your position then just comes across and yeah,

993
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: what have you been doing the last eight years? Now?

994
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: That's excellent? Bear, that's good. Yep, because I told bart,

995
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: I said, I want to turn him loose and just go.

996
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: I want him to be able to hunt on his own.

997
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: All right, Zack, what do you learn today? We're gonna

998
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: switch the headset here? Oh okay, I think I learned, uh,

999
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: probably more today than I have. What Like how long

1000
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: I've been turning in with you did? Not eight years,

1001
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: but I mean four or five years easy that we've

1002
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: gone out. Yep. Learned, like you said, like all these

1003
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: different things that happened today, like that's that's never Half

1004
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: of those things have never even happened to us. So

1005
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: we learned what what to do in those situations and

1006
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: what not to do. Yeah, it ended up working out well.

1007
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: To me. What really boost your confidence is when you're

1008
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: on a successful hunt and you're like, okay, so doing

1009
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: this actually can work. It never has before, because we

1010
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: did stuff today that you and your dad have been

1011
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: doing for a lot of years. Just the everything just

1012
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: didn't line up, you know when you were with him.

1013
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: Now he's killed, he's killed turkeys. But but the you know,

1014
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: and boy, once you get confidence, then you realize, Okay,

1015
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: I need to run these ridges, I need to call

1016
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: I need to be patient on one gobbles, I need

1017
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: to stay up above them. And if you just do

1018
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: that enough times and enough days, you're gonna kill a turkey.

1019
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: And uh, so I think that's important for both of

1020
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: you young guys, is just like, yeah, put in the

1021
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: time and uh become a good caller, which you know

1022
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: everybody's working on and uh, and then it just helps

1023
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: to be in turkeys. I mean, you can learn more

1024
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: in a couple of days of hunting and with a

1025
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: lot of turkeys around than you can and a lot

1026
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: of years with not many turkeys. And so, man, we

1027
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: did pretty good this morning, got in some turkeys, had

1028
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: some action. Yep. I'd say we had a blessed weekend. Yeah. Man, Well, Um,

1029
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: Zach or not Zack James, what's going on with the

1030
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: back country hiders and anglers in Arkansas? Can you give

1031
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: us like a short update? Yeah? Yeah, so we're still

1032
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: on track. Um, you know, we've got our application into

1033
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: be our own chapter. Um, you know, we were we

1034
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: were hoping to have that, uh you know, kind of

1035
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: a party at rendezvous. But I you know, it's not

1036
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: looking like that's gonna happen this year. I saw that

1037
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a virtual rendezvous. I saw the email

1038
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: today while we were sitting up there. Way, okay, well

1039
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: the cats out of the bag then so I can

1040
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: talk about it. Yeah, so um, so yeah, we're gonna

1041
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: do it that way and um but otherwise, I mean,

1042
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell you a couple of things that

1043
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: we're really looking for in Arkansas right now is, um,

1044
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: we've got a good core group of people on our

1045
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: board who are engaged, and I mean we've got a

1046
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,959
Speaker 1: lot of plans for the year. This all this junk

1047
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: that's going on right now is you know, like it

1048
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: is for a lot of people. It's it's caused a

1049
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: little bit of uh being unsettled with a few things.

1050
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: But you know, we're still committed to the mission and

1051
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: we really could use, um, some some people in Central Arkansas.

1052
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: I've got a few people down there that the ones

1053
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: that I have from Central Arkansas are great and they're

1054
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: doing a good job, and we could use a few

1055
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: more people who are just interested in what b h

1056
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: A has going on, what we're bringing to the table

1057
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: UM and just to help us UH diversify our leadership

1058
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: base within the state UM. And that's probably what a

1059
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: lot of what will concentrate on for the rest of

1060
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: the year. UM. You know, what do you need to UH,

1061
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, from a from a board perspective, it's just

1062
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: have a little bit of time available to to help

1063
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: us put put events together. And when we talk about events,

1064
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, of course the thing that most people with

1065
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: will associate with b h A would be like a

1066
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: pint night or something like that, just to get together

1067
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: where we're gonna you know, we'll we'll put a theme

1068
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: around that and and and try to UM try to

1069
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: make it educational or you know, getting ready for a

1070
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: season or something like that. But then other events, you know,

1071
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: whether that's finding us a habitat project UM. And we've

1072
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: got a couple of partnerships that are that we're working

1073
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: on with the Forest Service and there will be some

1074
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: some projects a little bit later in the year that

1075
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: will that we'll get out there and really we'll be

1076
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: taking care of some campgrounds and doing some mobility impaired

1077
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: hunting programs UM in the National Forest. So it really

1078
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: is just people who are are willing to engaged a

1079
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: little bit in in the process of of leadership, you know,

1080
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: whatever that's gonna be. I mean some sometimes it can be,

1081
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'll show up in man a booth, or

1082
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: it can be I'll be the secretary, or it'll be

1083
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, just just just those kind of things and when.

1084
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: And you know, we'd really like to to get some

1085
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: more women involved on our board. We we had uh

1086
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: one lady who was on there with us, and she

1087
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: had to step away, which we really regretted because she

1088
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: was just a dynamite uh individual that she brought a

1089
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: lot to the board. But um, you know, so we'd

1090
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: like to just get a little bit more diversity of

1091
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: of geographic representation and then you know, just just more

1092
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: people who are interested in doing a little bit of work. Yeah. Good,

1093
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: well that's great, that's great. Good to hear it that

1094
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: the chapters moving forward. And too bad about Ron Deboo.

1095
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna try to go out there. Yeah, we

1096
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: we were taking the whole family this year. So it

1097
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: has has turned our whole summer upside down. But you

1098
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: know it is what it is. Well, Hey, we are

1099
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: fire is dwindling down, the rain is uh intensified slightly.

1100
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: Wind is picking up. Um, We're gonna sleep in the

1101
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: tent tonight. Dad's the camper. James and Zach have an

1102
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: I set up in their truck. Uh, Dad, you got

1103
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: anything you want to say? You got any favorite turkey

1104
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: stories you wanna tell us? Will? You know? I've got

1105
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: a few. I'm not sure how interesting they are, But

1106
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: close us down with a story, you know, making about

1107
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, hit the high points, making about making about

1108
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: six minutes. You gotta keep in mind, I'm average turkey

1109
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: hunter at best. But when there were a lot of birds,

1110
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I could, I could kill them.

1111
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 1: You thought I was real good. And I had went

1112
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: out one night after work afternoon and I roosted a

1113
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: bird and I knew I had a meeting I had

1114
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: to be at early, so I had to kill that

1115
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: bird within about thirty minutes. So I got in real

1116
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: close to where he was roosted, and um, I got

1117
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: so close. When day broke broke, I could see the

1118
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: bird on the roost, and so I'd never seen a

1119
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: bird fly off the roost, and I just kept watching him,

1120
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: and finally, you know, I just lost my focus in

1121
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: the bird. The first thing I know he's on the

1122
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: ground and he you know, I called enough to where

1123
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: he knew where I was, and I had my gun up,

1124
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: which is a crazy three and a half inch single

1125
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: shot that will just I had. Well, it'll kill you

1126
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: when you shoot it. It kicks so hard. I want

1127
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: you to get bloody clay's lip. And I could name

1128
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: three other people probably that it bloodied their lip. And anyway,

1129
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: I loved it, and I still have it, you know,

1130
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: so it shoots real tight, and I mean it is

1131
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: a killer gun. I got this gun up and I'm

1132
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: wondering where this bird is. And after about five minutes

1133
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: my wish came true. This bird is right on top

1134
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: of me. But instead of being in front of my gun,

1135
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 1: he's standing right beside me. I look in my proofial

1136
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: vision and this bird is three ft away and I

1137
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: just could not believe it. And I was in buckbrush

1138
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: about three ft tass, so you know, my head was

1139
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: about the level of bucks and this bird is right here.

1140
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I could actually have been over

1141
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: just about six inches and grabbed him by the feet. Well,

1142
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: it would be a really cool story if you have

1143
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: done that. But I got this pop gun. I like

1144
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: to call it pointed straight ahead. Well this bird, he's

1145
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: like scripted, and I go, okay, now, bird walk right

1146
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: in front of my pop gun and he's sure enough

1147
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: he did. I think I've said six ft you know, uh,

1148
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: who knows how far? But it was, I mean extremely close,

1149
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: and and I have a red dot scope on it,

1150
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: and I I pulled the trigger and missed the stinking

1151
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: bird at six ft and I'm like, see this bird

1152
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: fly off this ridge. I just couldn't believe it. And

1153
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: uh but it was a The problem was I closed

1154
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: one eye and I got that worked out. And uh so, anyway,

1155
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: there were so many birds it wasn't a problem to

1156
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 1: kill another one. But that that story, it's one of

1157
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: your allies. Yeah really, I mean, you know, I have

1158
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: a bird just walk up right next to you, like

1159
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: going what So it was pretty fun. Ah, that's something

1160
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: that's good. Well, guys, hey, keep the wild places wild

1161
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: because that's where the turkeys live.