WEBVTT - Players Lounge: Coming Up With Something New 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:04.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:06.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:09.440 Cow Boys. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:16.480 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:21.880 World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:27.320 Anthony dor set De, Montree More and Newly Scrugs. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:42.080 You see you Frisco first place of Yes, Yes, the 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:43.200 ball is up he here. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.160 You know, yeah, the Great Nate Newton. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.760 Welcome back, Great Nate Newton, Black House Hall of Famer 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:49.200 right there. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.920 So it's Barry Church, that's Tray More, that is Anthony 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:53.520 dor Sat, I knew he Scruggs. This show is brought 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.560 to you by Aristocrat Gaming. So looking at practice as 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.440 we're walking in here, they're wearing white helms, and the 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.000 Cowboys were white helmets here. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.440 But when I checked the uniform list. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:10.240 For the game this weekend, and the uniforms says a 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:15.160 silver helmet, silver helmet, So so silver helmet for the Cowboys. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.480 So maybe they're wearing the white getting ready for a 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.080 different game. He was one of the do they have 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.080 it is a Thursday game coming up soon or something? 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:23.920 I said, if it's a short week, I could see 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:25.960 them putting that on like to break. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:26.400 In the helmet. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.520 But we all know that Jerry Man whenever he feels ready, 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:31.440 he just switched it up. 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.200 So I'm hoping they switch it up with. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:34.640 That helmet is clean. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.440 Yeah, it's a whole thing. I mean last night you 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:40.960 saw Arizona where they're white there, so maybe it's maybe 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:42.600 it's the Jets when they go. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:44.200 I don't know, but anyway, so I'm watched with the 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.240 white helmet, maybe think okay, is it this Saturday? 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:47.039 I mean this Sunday. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.720 Then I checked the game notes and so it's not there. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.240 It's going to be a Cowboys wearing a white jersey, 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:53.160 silver helmet. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:54.040 So there we go. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:58.559 What's the infatuation with the the white with the silver? 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.120 Like it's they got so many different color combinations that 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.360 will look real. What we're trying to do is sell 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:07.400 you gear as much gear as posing like they took away. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:12.840 Like remember the old one with even all blues. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.040 It's like the NBA with those street jerseys they come 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.639 in the city edition and what what can we come 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:22.040 up with new that that makes you want to go 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.320 buy it? And if you when I was a kid, 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.520 I wanted to have something that was different to show you. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.639 I was that cowboy fan like I had the blue 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:36.200 thirty three. Tony dort Jersey couldn't. 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:37.320 Spikes. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:37.959 I did not. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.000 First, my dad was the first football player with a 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.680 signature shoe. My dad was the Jordans of football. 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.359 Tony O. J. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:03:00.720 Simpson had a spot builts I can't remember, don't be name. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.840 Tony had the name on the team, but. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:05.919 The spot built was the name. But everybody knew. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.960 But oh, ju the juice got your name, got your 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.360 name back when you know everybody like the juice. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.880 People still like the juice. Man, you'd be talking. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:24.480 About black jam. Thank you, thank you, track emails your 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:25.200 emails and. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.720 Send it to trade and got no nose. The glove 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.040 don't fit. You must have quit. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:34.160 Quoting Kappa. 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.360 Don't do that, Johnny co was Kappa? 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:39.280 Did you not know that? 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.200 I didn't know that? Relaxed bro. We were talking about that. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.200 You already if. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.000 You want to be her like just saying you hate 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.160 us because you ain't us, Like we weren't even knowing 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:48.640 that today. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:49.680 Man, we didn't. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:50.760 I'm helping you out. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.080 Man, you know you know, don't do that. Hold on, 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:55.080 hold on, hold on, hold up. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:04:01.160 Anyway, we got to move on down and yours. Duran 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.280 Bland is out there. Is he back ron out here? 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.440 So we need to see a heavy dose of Dran 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.760 Bland reinforcement the number one corner. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.200 He's speared to go with number one. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.920 I'm just saying, if I'm Jery gone Son, get on 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.000 out there, got deal in the banks. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.800 I need to see some picture of me jumped in 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:22.520 the sky and like. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.120 Go go got that and you got the field which 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:29.120 turn around and turn around. They need something defensive. I mean, 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.440 he's a ball hot. You know his definition for. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:32.599 The fourteen fifteen picks. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:33.560 Gotta be healthy. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:34.880 But that's true to gotta be. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:38.400 That's the thing you think they're putting it on them 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.600 talking about hey man, you know we need you out there. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:40.680 Bro. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.400 We just seeing him on the field, and we already 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:43.720 talked about bringing back and do it. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:44.960 Throw them out there to the wolves. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:46.560 You want to throw them out there in the in 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.000 the coverage with bad eyes, techniques and stuff like that. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.960 Partially partially healthy, go out there and get it. 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.720 So was the injury again, what was the injury? 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:57.960 It's ankle right, It was. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.520 His ankle right, And what do we say and what 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.359 do we say about ankles? Yesterday. He was one of 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.600 those that is one of them lingering issues to where 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.240 you have to make sure you're good. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:08.800 And I understand it's a. 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.320 Desperate secondary that we have, but don't don't mess up 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.760 the one bright spot that you over there. Like I 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.920 rather him be healthy and come back in two weeks 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:18.320 and be full, go for the. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.160 Fool yesterday full. He was full yesterday and he's out 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.040 here today, So go go. If you go, you gotta 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.800 got to slide ninety million, gotta gotta go. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.320 This is true, but we also know that you get 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.200 there's certain rules and certain benefits come with you being 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.400 a high name player. They don't just rush you out 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.039 there like that. Just because your full gold doesn't mean 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.440 that you're full of twitch goal if that makes sense. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.440 That's you're just clear enough to get out there, Like 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.840 they didn't put people out there plenty of time that 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.000 were cleared. But as soon as you got out there, oh, 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:48.719 we cut him right away, like we got him just 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:49.640 good enough. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.640 Like you need in a good spot, dude. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.120 And that's what I'm saying, Like, don't don't know he's 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.000 not gonna get cut, But I mean from the standpoint 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.440 of you rushing to throw him out there just because 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.719 he went full. We've seen him and we're so desperate. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:05.200 Please be our one in bright and shade like Knight arming. No, 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.159 don't do that. Go do that, look at that and 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.440 clown me a guy that is healthy right now, but 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.560 don't do that with somebody that is proving in your 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:12.520 one superstar. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.200 I don't think he gonna say he gonna go out there. 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.320 I think Bland is cerebral enough and understands even though 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.320 him being a young player, I think he is not 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.640 going to allow himself to go out there and look 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.760 bad like that. So literally, I mean, I don't know 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.080 the young man myself personally, but just watching his characteristics 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:29.039 and his mannerisms. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:30.960 If he ready to go, he gonna put himself out there. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.520 Bland full participant yesterday, Diggs full gotta go, gotta go. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.560 I mean, if Russell Wilson dropping four fifty on you. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.760 Ain't Digs is good to go yesterday too, Jiggs yesterday 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:42.120 hit that. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.000 We got Caleb Williams doing stuff. He he ain't done 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.320 his career. Man, I'm sorry. Everybody got to go. If 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.760 I'm jammed, got you got a contract for me making multime, 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.080 Get out there, all hands on deck, get out all 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.640 get out there, go taking the tickets away. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.320 But do you I mean you take the tickets way. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.280 But let's just play Devil's advocate. After the coming out 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.320 of that week, we didn't think that we were gonna 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.240 have as many injuries on that old line like that. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.760 And you go tell me that. You go, your highest 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.680 paid guys, you say, get out there. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.440 Yeah, you got Sunday night football. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:19.120 Maybe, I mean it is Sunday night now the worst way. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.200 Real, I mean, church, you've been in one of them 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:22.560 where the package win went. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.800 Off on Sunday Sunday night for forty nine to three. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.040 We got spanked up on and you know what happened 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.480 after that game, trouble, I got fined. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.920 Hey, coach way, you Philips Way way last time? 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:35.080 What's that? 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.040 The game forty nine to three? 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.680 Spanked? Next week you. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.280 Interroom, head coach and new players were called and now 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:45.320 points and starting. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.400 To get started the way were in the season around. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:48.240 I don't know how. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.400 I ain't saying nothing, but they didn't wait, went somewhere 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:52.600 else and then got super. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:56.960 Let's see what you did. I'm just saying like he 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:57.760 was a head coach. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.400 So basically so basically he had the giant effect. But 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.600 just with the coaches, I mean. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.960 That defensive way it had pretty good which one over 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:11.080 then yeah, two Hall of famers. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:16.280 Man flies on young Chris Herd. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.000 I mean, bro, I mean, but I mean but hit 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.080 Like when I was about to say, first of all, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:23.760 I'm not gonna say that because I'm. 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:27.240 Not saying he was. I was. I was not saying 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.800 that is an insult to mister church Over. I was 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:35.480 Special team knew it too much. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:41.040 You went to new y Exit today, crazy man, that's crazy, 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.280 just to I know, held off. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:45.319 We had d wear. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:47.200 Rat lift yea. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:55.160 Yeah, spears Newman, he wasn't there. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:56.920 Who we having to? 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:01.760 Brady James was nice bro, you know, nice man. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.920 He was the side of the field. Wade had Pey Manning. 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:07.920 Even though Peyton Manny wasn't pay Man. He still had 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:08.400 Peyton manning. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.040 You did, you did? 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.000 But but okay, so far as my god brother, he 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.720 literally used to sit there and say, man, the stuff 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.240 that I'm learning from d Ware and Wade like they were. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:21.079 It was. 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.120 It was a Batman and Robin Field like you got 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.360 Dware that show you how to run it. But when 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.400 they actually sit there and listen to Waye like directing 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:29.920 everything like he was a general. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:31.400 Like they respect his words. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:32.959 Like when you talk to him right now and you 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.559 ask one of his favorite coordinators, he's going to tell 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.280 you if it's not Wade Phillips, it is he's up 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:38.960 there with him. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:43.959 Nobody's ever debated Wade Phillips a coach. You know that 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:48.520 every Wade's situations happened as a head coach, such as 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.680 north Turner. Nobody everywhere North Turner went man. He was 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:56.480 had dominant run games. And wait, Nord Turner made Nate 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.240 Newton black cous Hall of Famer. I mean Nord Turner 0:09:59.320 --> 0:09:59.880 made people. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.880 Oh, but as a head coach, nor I was not good. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.800 So when you think about that, like, I think some 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.320 of the guys that we have now, your boy, mister 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.719 call of Duty. You had Kyle shant I mean not 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.480 Kyle Shanahan, but you had Cliff Kingsbury over there with him. 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:17.559 But to see him have the success. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:21.319 That he's having now, like that whole it's crazy when 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:22.760 you look at it and you be like, hey, he's. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.959 A better head coach versus he is a coordinator. He's 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:26.560 a better coordinator. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:27.959 Versus a head coach and for him to go back 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.199 and have that success immediately, Like it made me think 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.559 of that because as soon as Cliff left the Cardinals, 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.600 it was like, hey, Washington has revived. They got Cliff Kingsbury. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.839 As soon as way Phillips left the Cowboys, it was like, damn. 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.040 The Broncos defense is like it gets turned up. So 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.200 it's like, it's true what they say about that scene 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:45.640 and everything. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:50.880 Yeah, maybe a little less responsibility to sometimes, you know, 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.720 like being the head guy, you got so much to do, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.439 and then if you ain't gonna be able to delegate 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.520 and you're still trying to be in control of certain things, 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.199 I think it could get pretty tough, you know what 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.000 I mean. But I definitely think that, uh, you know, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.440 when you got when you become that head dude and 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.720 you're able to release some of that stuff, you know. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.840 I mean, I definitely think it's a benefit for you. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:09.280 And then. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.400 Who's the hierarchy matters? Hierarchy matters. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.360 I go back to Mike Shanahan who was hired as 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:17.880 a very young coach by the Oakland. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.560 Raiders LA at the time. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.880 Al Davis controlled that thing, no doubt about you the 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.080 head coach, but Al was running picking the players, telling 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.160 you who to play, calling down on the field. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.000 You know it was that. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:36.160 Yes, Al was involved, man, that was him to he 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:37.360 to today he died. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:38.079 Stop breathing. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.079 Yes, And so I think it is so when Mike left, 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.280 Mike goes to San Francisco and he's calling plays and 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.080 wins Super Bowl under Seaffert. Then he becomes the Denver 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.040 Broncos head coach and he's able to do things his 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.920 own way, wins two Super Bowls and and has been 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.840 up for Hall of Fame. So sometimes it matters the 0:11:55.880 --> 0:12:00.000 situations you're in. Wade had enough opportunities in his career 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.000 that just shows Hey, man, that's just what you as 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.000 a head coach. I'd say North Turner the same thing. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.520 And after a while that just becomes a thing. Some 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.280 guys are not that, dude, It's not. If you ever 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.200 is a document if you ever watch musical documents called 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:18.319 three feet from Starting, let's talk about backup singers. Fantastic documentary. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:19.960 They see the title. 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.679 Backup singers who want to go ahead, and you go 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.440 three feet in front, go like Luther Vandels backup singer 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.679 to David Bowie Boom. Luther goes on and has a 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.720 great career, and it shows the people who didn't. Richard 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.400 Marx think he was with Lionel Ritchie and he goes 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.360 on Cheryl Crowz with Michael Jackson. It's it's but it's 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.000 hard and it's the same thing. And sometimes we look 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.800 at people like, man, can you do this? Some people can't. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.360 Pat Riley, you know, pat Riley went for being on 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.800 the bench with Jerry west Is becoming a guy and 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.040 Bill Jackson, you know, so it can work out, but 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.000 there's a lot of people don't. Jason Garrett was a 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.959 guy everyone thought was going to be successful. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.880 He wasn't he'd be the next guy. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.080 Sean Payton was a guy that when he left here, 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.760 I did not think that Sean Payton was gonna win 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:04.120 a Super Bowl. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:04.800 Thought Sean was. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.800 Really good, but did be a good head coach, Like I. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.280 Didn't think he I did not think that he would 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.640 be what he is. Here's a guy that's won a 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.120 Super Bowl with the Saints. Sean Sewan didn't want that job. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.880 He wanted the Green Bay job, and Mike McCarthy got 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.520 the job. And he's just like man because so and 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:22.240 this is interesting. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:22.640 I happened. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.080 So he's with Parcels. Remember Sean was with the Giants 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.280 when they went to a Super Bowl. They got blown 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:31.120 out by Baltimore, and then the next year things get bad. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:36.000 Fossil basically fires him and takes over, and then Shawn 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:37.000 just kind of cast out. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.280 Parcels is hired here. 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.559 He's hired here as a play caller, technically offensive cordiator assistant. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.560 He had, well, the head coach was assistant head coach 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.600 Mo Carthon, but Seawan was calling the plays. They had 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.360 that great year where Quincy's a quarterback, they make the playoffs. 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.040 I want to say it was al Davis al Day, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:55.640 Yes it was. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.760 Al Davis offered Sean the job as head coach, and 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.360 then Zimmer was the defensive coordinated. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.600 Nebraska offered Zim the job as head coach. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.000 Jerry paid them both a million dollars to stay, so 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.760 they stayed. Next year didn't make the playoffs. Sean regretted it. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.119 Parcels was mad. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.199 You know, fingers. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:17.120 So Sean was like, man, next opportunity I get, I'm out. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.760 So after the Romo fumble snap. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:24.800 Against remember that, Sean goes to the Saints, one of 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.840 the Green Bay jobs went to McCarthy. He goes to 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.600 the Saints after all the stuff they'd been through. It 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.560 was like, hey, man, I'm gonna take this job. And 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.360 people are like, good luck, Trin and everything. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:33.040 Have fun. 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:37.640 Then you get Drew Brees because they said the shoulder 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.560 was all messed up and it has that run there. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.320 Then parcels weeks later ends up retiring. So Jerry never 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.920 got the opportunity to try to hire Sean. So when 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.200 Sean left, nobody was hitting there, Oh my gosh, you 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.920 didn't let this great mind. Nobody was saying that, you like, 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.280 he's a good coach, but nobody thought that's what wo happened. 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.960 But parcels a lot of good coaches on that staff. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.480 It was good. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.400 But Seawn is you know, Sean has shown you man, 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.000 he's he's he's that guy. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.080 He's developed, he's developing boat Knicks. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.200 I mean they went through Parcells coaching tree one time 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.600 and just to see the dudes. That was actually it 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.640 was part of that whole lineage has been crazy. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:17.400 It's wild. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:18.840 Yeah, it is wild. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.000 I mean you start with you start with Belichick right 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:21.680 there exactly. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.600 You know, you got Belichick, then you got Tom coffin 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.680 who won two Super Bowls, who beat Belichick twice for 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:26.680 those two super Bowls. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.880 There, Sean Payton's won a Super Bowl. 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:29.040 Guy. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.480 I remember when Mike McIntyre was here as a coach 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.240 and he ended up going to Colorado. Was a National 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.560 Coach of the year. Tony Sperano was the offensive line coach. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:37.800 Everybody, everybody. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.960 Tony went on to be a He won a division 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:41.120 with Miami. 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.560 Dan Campbell coached for for him and played for him. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:49.240 A Glenn played here for him. Anthony Lynn was a 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:49.840 coach here. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:50.920 Wow, yeah yeah. 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.360 And Todd Todd Hayley was a coach here. 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.240 He ended up going crazy. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.960 That's a lot of Todd Todd won a division. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:05.560 Who tree is better Mike's or Parcels? 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:11.200 Who's talking about Mike? Oh no, I say Parcels. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.480 Parcels, Mike. Where was interesting for Mike's? 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:13.840 Is Mike? 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.360 You go into that? Bill watsh tree? 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:19.440 I probably that's the most Bill Walsh's trees is pretty 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:25.040 dang successful. And then uh, Paul Brown's tree is ridiculously 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.280 crazy because he's got Don Shula on there, Chuck Knowles 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:28.600 on there. 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.960 They both play for the Brown Man. That's a lot 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.080 of that's a lot of a lot of winning, right, Yes. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:35.920 It's pretty wild, but I'd probably say you go, you 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:41.520 start looking at between Paul Brown, Bill Walsh, and Parcels, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.440 those might be the most successful trees of guys when 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.960 you talk about Super Bowl wins, hall of Famers and 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.240 just everything that's sprouted off there. Because with a guy 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.320 like Chuck Nole, you know Chuck Noles tree, So you 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.760 go Paul Brown, Chuck no, Chuck Dungee Dungee play fan. 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.000 You know he's off that, he's off that tree man. 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.080 So it's just it's wild if. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.600 You have to, if you had to rank him, because 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.919 I feel like you're the most credible one at this 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.960 table to see that seem all the If you have 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:11.880 to rank him in order one, two, and three. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:16.359 It's it's Paul Brown. Because Bill Walsh coach for Paul Brown. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.200 Paul did not give him the job, so he ended 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:24.280 up leaving and he went coach for He went coach 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.120 at Stanford and then then got the forty nine er job. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:27.879 So I would say it's Paul Brown just because it's 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.920 ridiculously and Paul Brown, the guy who came up with 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.200 the playbooks, Uh, he was the first guy to say, 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:33.000 hey man, we need to put it. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.159 Put a put a headset and a helmet. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.879 I mean innovative, innovative, probably the biggest innovator. 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.880 And named the team after himself too. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:46.800 Brown's named after him, you think about it. And then 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.480 when he got fired by Dale with the Browns started 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.280 and found at the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.240