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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's the highlight of my week.

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Speaker 6: I get to see my man, Kenny flooryan It's Monday,

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Speaker 6: February twenty seven, twenty twenty three, episode three ninety two

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Speaker 6: of the Anak and Florian Podcast, presented by a DraftKings.

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Speaker 6: It is eight o'clock am Pacific, just after eleven am Eastern.

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Speaker 6: I'm here in Las Vegas at the win. Got a

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Speaker 6: little bit of work in advance of UFC two eighty five.

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Speaker 6: And look at you rock in the one More Sleep merchandise.

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Speaker 5: Is that? The link too? This shirt?

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Speaker 7: By the way, his shirt's sick and it's very very comfortable.

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Speaker 7: I rocked the other one in Orlando, and I'm loving

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: So you just had a cup my pleasure. So you

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Speaker 6: just had a couple of seminars over the weekend. But

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Speaker 6: your back home, now, how did that all the day?

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Speaker 7: Exactly? What did Challenger series in Orlando. Went from Orlando

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Speaker 7: early in the morning, so we wrapped it like twelve midnight,

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Speaker 7: went to sleep about twelve thirty one am. Woke up

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Speaker 7: about five thirty to take a plane. Went to Orlando

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Speaker 7: to Charlotte, to Ohio to Cleveland. Did a seminar that day,

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Speaker 7: did another semmer on Sunday, and then drove eight hours

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Speaker 7: to Charlotte last night. Got home around eleven thirty, and

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Speaker 7: then worked out in the morning. And here we are,

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Speaker 7: let's go. I'm not sing at it in this morning.

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Speaker 5: How's your back getting through the workout this morning? All right?

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Speaker 5: Oh it's rough. No, No, it's actually helping. It's helping

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Speaker 5: phil and strong.

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Speaker 7: A back is getting better little by little, so feel

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Speaker 7: and feel much better.

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Speaker 6: It is amazing how much working out helps with injuries, right,

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Speaker 6: especially as you get older. Right, Like I essentially took

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Speaker 6: a little break from lifting because of a medical issue,

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Speaker 6: and now I notice like my pateller tendon is when

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Speaker 6: I run, which hadn't been something I experienced for almost

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Speaker 6: two years, is like back you know.

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Speaker 7: As as squat. As we get older, man, we got

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Speaker 7: to do it. We got to keep it up. I

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Speaker 7: still like forget. I'm like, oh, I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 7: I still think I'm twenty eight. I'll be fine, you know,

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Speaker 7: and you you avoid it and you feel it and anyways,

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Speaker 7: no one wants to hear about an old guy complain.

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 6: Executive is like, okay, guys, right like seventeen when I

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Speaker 6: was born, awesome.

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Speaker 5: I had a lot to get into today.

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Speaker 6: So I land in Las Vegas last night on Sunday,

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Speaker 6: and the first person I see when I get off

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Speaker 6: the plane Brendan Allen.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 6: I had reached out to him actually after the fight

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Speaker 6: on Saturday night because he is a good friend and

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Speaker 6: he is going to join us on the program coming

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Speaker 6: up this Wednesday. So the second episode this week of

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Speaker 6: the Anakimploring podcast comes your way on the DraftKings YouTube channel,

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Speaker 6: and Brendan Allen will be a part of it. We're

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Speaker 6: also efforting Henry Sudo, so we'll see if that comes

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Speaker 6: to fruition. But don't forget full episodes right now of

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Speaker 6: the Anticidploran podcast on the DraftKings YouTube channel. Remember the

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Speaker 6: show with Blam Muhammad and Jason Annik still on the

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Speaker 6: Anakin Florian channel, as are clips from this podcast. But essentially,

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Speaker 6: if you do move over to DraftKings with us, we

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Speaker 6: appreciate that and if you like our videos, those should

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Speaker 6: be the ones that populate. So there is your disclaimer

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Speaker 6: off the top of the show. Want to get into

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Speaker 6: this UFC Fight Night made event between Andre They're saying Mooneese,

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Speaker 6: I go Moon Niz. I don't fucking know Andre Mooneese,

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Speaker 6: Brendan Allen will get into Tommy Fury and Jake Paul

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Speaker 6: a little bit, even though Keniflo doesn't really want to

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Speaker 6: get into that. How about Nikita Krillov and Ryan Span

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Speaker 6: though going away? I mean, at least it gets rebooked

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Speaker 6: for March eleventh. But Ryan Span was brought to tears

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Speaker 6: at his press conference that he had sort of an

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Speaker 6: impromptu press conference when Nakida Krillov it was learned, couldn't

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Speaker 6: fight because of food poisoning. I know they're going to

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Speaker 6: and they're actually going to have fans, which I think

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Speaker 6: will be nice for both athletes, But can you give

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Speaker 6: us anything in terms of a fighter mentality. I know

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Speaker 6: you dealt with a lot of different circumstances early on

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Speaker 6: just think it's really hard. You try to peak right,

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Speaker 6: you think about maybe going smoking a joint and having

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Speaker 7: No, absolutely, man, I think it's all the work that

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Speaker 7: you put into it, right, and it's the mindset of

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Speaker 7: preparing your mind and body for war.

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Speaker 5: And you know, it's one thing to happen.

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Speaker 7: A week two weeks before the fight, and it's still disappointing,

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Speaker 7: But to have it like the night before or the

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Speaker 7: you almost feel like all that work you put into,

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Speaker 5: And obviously they're going to rebook it.

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Speaker 7: But it's especially difficult if you had a great camp,

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Speaker 7: you're peaking at the right time, and now you've got

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's got to be extremely frustrating. Man.

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Speaker 7: I've never had to deal with anything like that, like

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Speaker 7: But yeah, at least they're going to rebook it that

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Speaker 7: there is some consolation there, and I was looking forward

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Speaker 6: I was too, and I did say to my wife, like,

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Speaker 6: this stuff never happens to me, where these fight cards

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Speaker 6: get whittled down in like nine to ten fights, Did

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Speaker 6: four fights. We will start with what was the new

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Speaker 6: main event between Andre Moonize and Brendan Allen, and we'll

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Speaker 6: get into your perfect week here in about fifteen minutes

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Speaker 6: when Brian Petree joins us.

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Speaker 5: But you were four and zero with your predictions.

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Speaker 6: You were pretty bullish on Brendan Allen as a plus

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Speaker 6: one fifty five underdog, so obviously you have been a

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Speaker 6: believer before. Your thoughts on a huge, huge win for

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Speaker 6: Brendan Allen, who will probably be in the top eleven

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Speaker 7: I've seen the potential in Brendan Allen very early on

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Speaker 7: I think this was a great performance for him for

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Speaker 7: a couple different reasons. First of all, Andre Andre Mooniz

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Speaker 7: and Brendan Allen put that myth to rest. I think

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Speaker 7: and so I think that says a lot about Brendan

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Speaker 7: even if Moniz was landing some shots. To me, Brendan

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Speaker 7: There was always a step ahead, and not only did

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Speaker 7: working extremely hard. He has some consistency now in his career,

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Speaker 7: and this is only going to fuel him that much

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Speaker 6: Again, I think you analytically set it up beautifully. I

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Speaker 6: And for Brennan Allen, I thought he mitigated risk really

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Speaker 6: well but still stayed aggressive. It's absolutely huge for him

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Speaker 6: to get a finish over a guy and Andre Mooneese,

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Speaker 6: a title fight. I do believe there was something amiss

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Speaker 6: when they have that eight to ten second like pre

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Speaker 6: like it was in no Brandon Allen could be convicted

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Speaker 6: that he was up on the score cards necessarily, but

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Speaker 6: like we need time for offense here. But huge, huge

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Speaker 6: win for Brandon Allen. And I just thought, and this

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Speaker 6: this week. He just maximized the moment in every capacity,

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Speaker 6: right on the microphone in the octagon, right. I think

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Speaker 6: he was a little bit upset that he didn't get

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Speaker 6: Jessica andraje and Aaron Blanchfield, when andrage was elevated when

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Speaker 6: Tyler Santos couldn't fight. And you know, Brendon Allen, he's

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Speaker 6: a young guy right still in his twenties, has this

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Speaker 6: during his post fight interview. I think he believes and

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Speaker 6: he said things to Kenny like, you know, I'm not great,

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Speaker 6: I'm good everywhere though, I'm really good everywhere, Like I

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Speaker 6: think he just really wants to know as a martial artist,

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Speaker 6: like can I stack up with these eLife fighters? So

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Speaker 6: I'll spin it to you. I mean, if you're only

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Speaker 6: as good as your latest fight, what is the ceiling

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Speaker 6: for a guy like Brendan?

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Speaker 7: You know, John, I think that's what it's all about,

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Speaker 7: and that's certainly what motivated me.

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Speaker 5: It's like, how far can I take this? Who are

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Speaker 5: the best guys? You know? Bring him, Let's see what

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Speaker 5: we can do out here.

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Speaker 7: And Brendan Allen has that same mentality you have seen

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Speaker 7: a slow progression.

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Speaker 5: And now it seems like he's getting it all together.

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Speaker 7: It's all coming together very well for him, and I

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Speaker 7: thought he maximized that moment. As you said, you know,

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Speaker 7: it's one thing to have a good performance on fight night,

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Speaker 7: it's yet another thing to do that, you know, capture

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Speaker 5: And he did everything he needed to do. Now only

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Speaker 5: did he get the win, he got the finish.

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Speaker 7: He got a finish against the guy who everyone was

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Speaker 5: Let us get to the main Event challenge.

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Speaker 1: It's the Main Event Challenge.

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Speaker 3: And time is most fashin how do you everything possible

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Speaker 1: It's the Main Event Challenge with John Hennick and Kenny

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Speaker 6: He is the host of the MMA Takes podcast on

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Speaker 6: social media at Brian Petree MMA. Brian Petre is with

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Boys?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 5: We're doing well?

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Speaker 6: So I saw a lot of your social media offerings

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Speaker 5: Was this the first Jake Paul pay per view that

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Speaker 3: Uh, And I you know it was wasn't my favorite fight.

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Speaker 3: and he's interfering every single time. It's like, listen, I

437
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 3: know they're clinching line, but work away up. Come on, guys,

438
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 3: work away, clap it up. You know, likay, break yell,

439
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 3: breaks sturdly like most of these guys do. He didn't

440
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 3: do any of that. He made it about himself. He

441
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,920
Speaker 3: kept pointing to the back of the head. You keep

442
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Speaker 3: doing it. I've just seen him back in the headshots,

443
00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 3: not that many for him to be always doing that,

444
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 3: And I saw a lot of online criticism about this guy,

445
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,879
Speaker 3: and it was warranted in my opinion. It was a joke.

446
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, I've never seen this guy wrap before,

447
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 3: not sure who hired him, not sure who put him

448
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Speaker 3: in place. But that's gonna be his last big fight,

449
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Speaker 3: that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: Damn.

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Speaker 6: All Right, one more thing that I did just want

452
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Speaker 6: to get into before we transition to UFC two eighty five,

453
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Speaker 6: And don't forget, we'll have plenty more coming up later

454
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Speaker 6: this week on our second episode. But Kenny, Dana White

455
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Speaker 6: has suggested that he wants Alexander Volkanovsky to now defend

456
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Speaker 6: his featherweight championship against the interim featherweight champion Yai You're Rodriguez.

457
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Speaker 6: Obviously there is some sort of support for an immediate

458
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Speaker 6: rematch between Islami kash Chev and Alexander Volkanovsky. I just

459
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Speaker 6: wanted to get your thought on this because for me,

460
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Speaker 6: I think this is more a statement about Dana White's

461
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 6: intimate promotional knowledge about when he can actually get these

462
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Speaker 6: athletes to turn around. Volkanovsky wants to fight four times

463
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Speaker 6: this year. That sounds ambitious to me, But if he's

464
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Speaker 6: even going to fight three times this year, I think

465
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Speaker 6: his next fight has to be against Yayi Rodriguez. I

466
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Speaker 6: don't believe Islam Maikashev is going to turn around here

467
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Speaker 6: in three or four months, and I think now there's

468
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Speaker 6: going to be promotional pressure on Yayi Rodriguez to get

469
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Speaker 6: back in there in three or four months unify the

470
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Speaker 6: featherweight titles. I feel like his statement is much more

471
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Speaker 6: rooted in the belief that he can get Yaya to

472
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Speaker 6: sign in three or four months, then he can get

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Speaker 6: Islam to sign, And I just want to get your

474
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Speaker 6: thoughts on that.

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Speaker 5: John, I think that's those are certainly factors.

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Speaker 7: I also think you don't get a Yayir Rodriguez and

477
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Speaker 7: Alexander Volkanowski type fight all the time, and when you do,

478
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Speaker 7: and when those guys can collide, when you give two

479
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Speaker 7: very dynamic fighters who have very large fan bases in

480
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Speaker 7: two different countries, you don't want to miss out on

481
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Speaker 7: that opportunity to promote that fight. And if Volkanovsky goes

482
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Speaker 7: up and makes the proper adjustments and beat Islamaha Chef, that, yeah,

483
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Speaker 7: you're rod Riguez Volkanovski fight potentially goes away for good, right,

484
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Speaker 7: So I think that when you when you're a promoter

485
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Speaker 7: and you have two guys like that, yeh, you got

486
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Speaker 7: to make that fight and you got to make that

487
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Speaker 7: fight asap uh. And you're right it is lamahas chef.

488
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Speaker 7: I think it's complicating the situation. He doesn't want to

489
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Speaker 7: fight as often Volkanowski does.

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Speaker 5: Let's go. Yeah, I'm for it, yeah, right with anything

491
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Speaker 5: on that for us?

492
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think if Ya Year didn't look

493
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Speaker 3: as good as he did and he squeaked that one out,

494
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Speaker 3: I don't think this is going to be on the table.

495
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Speaker 3: I think you run it back. But he looked like

496
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Speaker 3: a killer. In Volkanowski he already knows a killer, So

497
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Speaker 3: I think it makes sense.

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Speaker 5: You're right.

499
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Speaker 3: And with Islam, I don't think he likes cutting weight

500
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Speaker 3: all that often. It's a big weight cut for my No,

501
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: he struggles, so quick turnarounds is an issue. And with

502
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Speaker 3: Volkanowski wanting to stay busy, let's throw in Ya Year

503
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Speaker 3: and then possibly run Islam late summer, early fall, whenever.

504
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Speaker 5: They want you.

505
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I love it. I'm all here

506
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Speaker 3: for it. I can't wait for that fight.

507
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Speaker 5: A lot of yahya Rodriguez.

508
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Speaker 6: His career has been defined by inactivity and these long

509
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Speaker 6: sort of bouts of inaction. So I really think it's

510
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Speaker 6: interesting on the strength of a performance like that, Right,

511
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Speaker 6: Brian Ortagan, Josh Emma, he's added those scalps. Can they

512
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Speaker 6: get him to turn around in three months to passify Bolkonoski.

513
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Speaker 6: I don't know the answer to that question, right, all right,

514
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Speaker 6: I want to bring on our executive producer Cody Merrow

515
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Speaker 6: right now for a pronunciation of the week before we

516
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Speaker 6: gets to the main event challenge.

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Speaker 5: What's up, Cody? What? What? That was interesting? Sound like

518
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Speaker 5: Alvin and the Chipmunks.

519
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Speaker 3: Yeah, now was a Chipmunks out.

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Speaker 5: I think we're gonna bail out the pronunciation of the

521
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Speaker 5: week because I just hear Alvin and the Chipmunks. WHOA

522
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Speaker 5: what it's going on? I think he's at his girlfriend's

523
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Speaker 5: house today and now he's on mute.

524
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Speaker 6: So essentially what I was going to do for the

525
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Speaker 6: pronunciation of the week, and I've already said the names

526
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Speaker 6: several times, Cody, I really wanted to hear your Dulca

527
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Speaker 6: tones today, but Shavcott.

528
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Speaker 5: Yes, no, you're you technical issues Oh my god, a

529
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Speaker 5: lot of issues.

530
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Speaker 6: We're in five different locations today. So Shavcott, right, I

531
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Speaker 6: hear a lot of people mess up his last name.

532
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Speaker 6: And there are certain names of fighters from Kyrgyzstan or

533
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 6: Azerbaijan or Russia. Right, Alexander Romanov, people want to say Romanov,

534
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 6: Isla Makashev, people want to say maka Schev. So figured

535
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Speaker 6: we'd get ahead of this one for the masses because

536
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Speaker 6: this Shavcott character seemingly is all the raised. So, Cody,

537
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Speaker 6: how do you pronounce the name of the budding welterweight contenter?

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Speaker 4: Well, if I get this one wrong, you should probably

539
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Speaker 4: get my ears checked right, because Shavcott Rockmanov has been

540
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Speaker 4: said about ten times on the program.

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Speaker 5: Ready, you absolutely nailed it.

542
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Speaker 6: Yeah, So we're going second syllable here, Shavcott rock Monov,

543
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Speaker 6: so not Rockmanov. And hopefully that helps everybody with the

544
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Speaker 6: navigation this weekend.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Cody. Easy lifting for Cody Marrow today.

546
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Speaker 6: Was that you just gave me the w Oh yeah,

547
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 6: let's hear, No, let's hear the man, the myth, the legend,

548
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 6: shop cut rock mo.

549
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 5: Shove shove got rough.

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Speaker 2: It is.

551
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Speaker 6: Yeah, me too, bro Oh no, yeah, yeah.

552
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Speaker 5: Here like a mona in there, all right, shop got

553
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Speaker 5: rock Monov.

554
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Speaker 4: Final answer guys, real quick before I get out of

555
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Speaker 4: here though, Like I know you're talking about Paul Fury.

556
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Speaker 5: I actually have.

557
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Speaker 4: My my Jake Paul contract. It just came in the

558
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Speaker 4: fact contracts almost gonna go ahead.

559
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Speaker 5: There we go.

560
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Speaker 3: He's trying to get back on the Jake Paul train.

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Speaker 6: Did you guys happen to see the uh the post

562
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Speaker 6: from Platinum Mike Perry right, fake script? Yeah you think

563
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Speaker 6: there's anything there, Brian, I don't know.

564
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Speaker 5: I hope not.

565
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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, there's been a lot of speculation. I'm

566
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Speaker 3: not a conspiracy guy.

567
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Speaker 5: I don't you know.

568
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Speaker 3: I live in a bubble. I don't think fights are fixed.

569
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Speaker 3: But you know, when you got a lot of money

570
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Speaker 3: on the line of a guy who you know, if

571
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: he loses, he loses some credibility, you know. But no,

572
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Speaker 3: I think Mike Perry is just having a good time,

573
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Speaker 3: or at least someone slipped that Mike Perry's Mike Pearr

574
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Speaker 3: and he goes, oh shit, yeah, those is real quick.

575
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Speaker 3: So I don't think there's much to it.

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Speaker 6: It was well done. Whoever came up with that document.

577
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Speaker 6: It was fake or real, it was well done. All right,

578
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Speaker 6: let us get into some predictions here for UFC two

579
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Speaker 6: to eighty five. You guys know, for pay per views,

580
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Speaker 6: I make these guys pick at least five fights.

581
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Speaker 5: I think we're going eight deep today.

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Speaker 6: First, we're going to update the standings though, second or

583
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Speaker 6: third perfect week on the year for Team Flory and

584
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 6: Kenselo goes four to zero plus four hundred and fifty

585
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Speaker 6: five dollars. That included his underdog whack on Brendan Allen,

586
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 6: so Kenny is now minus one hundred and ninety five

587
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 6: dollars for the year. But keep in mind, these guys

588
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 6: have to pick all the fight, so both guys are

589
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 6: in the black when it comes to their individual wallets.

590
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 6: Brian Petrie was at minus three ten going in goes

591
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Speaker 6: two and two, but there was a two unit lost

592
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Speaker 6: there on Dantel mays. I know you guys kind of

593
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 6: wanted me to bury that.

594
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: He give me the heat.

595
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 6: So minus two hundred for Petri overall minus five ten

596
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Speaker 6: on the year, and Team Florida now takes the lead.

597
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Speaker 6: Brian Donzelle mays, you had to be pretty frustrated with

598
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Speaker 6: that effort last leg.

599
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Speaker 3: Of the parlay. I had a chance to hedge because

600
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Speaker 3: it was it was even money going in and I said, na,

601
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Speaker 3: I'm rhyme with d one Dantell, He's he's gonna take it.

602
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: And he just I mean, you know, trading with John Jones,

603
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 3: and he just he fell flat. It was just a

604
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: flat performance. There's nothing you can do. I mean, he

605
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 3: just striking looked terrible. If I'm to be honest with you,

606
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: it did not look good. And and it's like, Hi,

607
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: you know took over me. I don't know how you

608
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: can't get your head up from that, but you know,

609
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: got nat in his head about fifteen hundred times before

610
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Speaker 3: he did anything about it. Whatever, I'm not going to go.

611
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 3: I had some good live bets in the beginning, but

612
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: then that that kind of killed me.

613
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 5: So I gotta be honest with you.

614
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 7: When when you when you picked May's and then you're like,

615
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 7: I'm gonna put another you know, I was skicking in

616
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Speaker 7: my shoes.

617
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Speaker 5: I'm like, did I just picked the wrong dude? I

618
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 5: was caught, dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

620
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Speaker 3: People were people were dming me, going, really, Dantell, really

621
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Speaker 3: I would do really And I'm like, yes, no, on

622
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Speaker 3: my thing about yeah.

623
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Speaker 5: And it's always funny for me.

624
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 6: I'll be like, hey, Kenny, you went four and oh

625
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 6: plus five hundred bucks.

626
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, really, like kid.

627
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 6: Has sometimes and he swept the fucking board. All right,

628
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 6: I'm very excited you f C two eighty five Jones

629
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 6: versus Gone. We have the one more Sleep Goat merchandise

630
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 6: out this week if you want that.

631
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Speaker 5: Of course, I forgot to bring my shirt.

632
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 6: But we have eight selections to make and we're going

633
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 6: to begin with a prelim live on ESPN two. In

634
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 6: the flyweight division, fifteenth rank demanded, Heboss minus one thirty

635
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 6: eight ranked. Viviani out of Uzo is plus one ten.

636
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 6: As some of you know, Hebos, who is number nine

637
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 6: at strawweight by the way, was to face Tracy Cortez

638
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 6: in early December. That fight went away on way in day,

639
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 6: so now he Boss faces out of Ujo.

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Speaker 5: Brian Petri, your thoughts on this one.

641
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Speaker 3: I think it's a must win for both, right, I mean,

642
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 3: I think there's some nice little steaks here on the prelims.

643
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: I mean this card stacked top to bottom. I love it.

644
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: I'm going over right now, and you know it's an

645
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: unbelievable card.

646
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 5: And aur Rujo.

647
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: She came in the UFC on fire right, big, huge,

648
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: sturd around, knockout, big power. Has not been able to

649
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: replicate that, has not had to finish in the UFC

650
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: since kind of lumpy, little up and down a little

651
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: bit now and then the man he Boss, affectious, adorable,

652
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: everyone loves or everyone's talking about her from her gym

653
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: one or two. In her last three the minute to

654
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Speaker 3: step up and competition got big. It's when she started

655
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Speaker 3: dropping these fights. But I do think he Boss. He's

656
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Speaker 3: twenty nine on our Jujo's thirty six. He Boss has

657
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a I want to say, a

658
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Speaker 3: chin issue, but there's some durability questions. She has been

659
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Speaker 3: finished twice by strikes. You know now, you guys got her,

660
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Speaker 3: and then she outside the USC she got taken out

661
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Speaker 3: as well, so I'm a little.

662
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Speaker 5: Worried about that.

663
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Speaker 3: But if she mixes everything up, she's more athletics, she's faster,

664
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Speaker 3: and she's really mixed everything up. I think she can

665
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: win this fight here. I think this fight is hebos.

666
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Speaker 3: I think he goes to the decision and I think

667
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: it's gonna be quite competitive.

668
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Speaker 6: But give me a man hemas all right, Kenny, Brian

669
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 6: Peter likes a man a Heboss. On the other side,

670
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 6: you have at Viviani ada Uzo coming off of main

671
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Speaker 6: event five round decision loss too soon to be title

672
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Speaker 6: challenger Alexa Grosso. Big fight at Flyway kemplohichs Wway going. Yeah,

673
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Speaker 6: you know, I think Brian kind of nailed the breakdown.

674
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go a different way though.

675
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Speaker 7: I think that Heboss sometimes gets caught up trading a

676
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 7: little bit too much, and she's very proud and she's

677
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 7: very tough, and she ends up kind of getting into

678
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 7: some exchanges which don't suit her. Now, if Hebos takes

679
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 7: out Oujo down and decides to say, hey, I'm gonna

680
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 7: I'm gonna enact a very heavy grappling game plan, this

681
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 7: is Hebus's fight, and I think she'll be okay. I

682
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 7: don't think it's gonna be easy even if she does

683
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 7: that necessarily, but I think that's where she wins this fight.

684
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Speaker 5: But I show is tough.

685
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 7: I think she understands how important this fight is for her.

686
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 7: I think if he Bos loses, I think she'll be okay.

687
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 7: If out of Ujo loses, I don't know if she'll

688
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Speaker 7: still be around, so just because Hebos is very popular

689
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Speaker 7: with everybody, and and you know, I think she could

690
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 7: still get better. I think she's got a lot of

691
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 7: potential there. But yeah, I like Atuzho. I think it's

692
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Speaker 7: close enough where I'm willing to take a risk. I

693
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Speaker 7: feel all the dog in.

694
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Speaker 6: Me this week you Hartfield, Yeah, kid, the podcast workout

695
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Speaker 6: in and right now, by the way, Ken Flow did

696
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Speaker 6: get out of Ujo at plus one ten for our purposes,

697
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Speaker 6: but right now on Draftking Sportsbook, Amanda Heboss minus one fifteen.

698
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 6: Viviani out of Ujo minus one oh five, so that

699
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 6: is moving towards Vivi all right at middleweight drinks duples

700
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Speaker 6: C minus two thirty taken on Derek Brunson plus one

701
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Speaker 6: ninety five duplus c. Of course, as you guys know,

702
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 6: out of South Africa, he has started four and oh

703
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 6: in the UFC and has won six in a row overall.

704
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 6: Brunson exactly ten years and ten days older than duples Ce.

705
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Speaker 6: He makes his twenty first UFC appearance, having won five

706
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Speaker 6: of six. One quick thing, Brian, before I tossed the

707
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Speaker 6: baton your way. Just ran into Greg Jones at the

708
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Speaker 6: airport last night and he said pre COVID Drakis duples

709
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Speaker 6: C actually went to Sandford MMA now kill Cliff FC,

710
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 6: but then never came back after the global pandemic. So

711
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 6: they have some knowledge in this camp, right. Greg Jones

712
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 6: is going to be on the corner of Derek Brunson

713
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 6: this weekend and they're excited for the challenge. Your thoughts

714
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Speaker 6: on duplus C pretty big favorite here against dB.

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, This fight has my brain in a pretzel. It's

717
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: a wetzel pretzel up here in this fucking nogin of mine.

718
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: I watched duplus he's live against Darren Hill, and I

719
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: wasn't blown away. I think he's scrappy. He's durable, he's

720
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 3: got some skills, but he's never like jumped off the page.

721
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: And if I hate to be that guy, but if

722
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: Darren Hill was a quarter of the fighter used to be.

723
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: He wins that night. He just does. He's got an

724
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: impressive resume though eighteen and two, and he wants to

725
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: smoke with everyone. He wins. He calls anyone out right,

726
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: and Derek Brunts in thirty nine is kind of at

727
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: the end of the road. He's flirted with a little bit,

728
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: but he went on that five five win stream where

729
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: he was finishing people and he was out wrestling out

730
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Speaker 3: Cardio and everyone, and then he run into Jerry Cannoneer,

731
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: which you know, Jerry Kenney is a whole different man,

732
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: you know. So Blonde Brunson his cardo needs to be

733
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: on point, as on point as his blonde hair, because

734
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: I think du Plus, he who is sporting a fifty

735
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: percent takedown a takedown rape, hasn't only fought a wrestler

736
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: in the UFC quite yet, right, Darren still got to

737
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: take down on him. I think Brunson can exploit that.

738
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: I know, du Plus he's pretty good working to his feet,

739
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: Cardio pretty well, but I don't love his striking. It's

740
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: very jerky, it's very rushy, and I think Darren Derek

741
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: Brunson can take advantage of that. And you're hanging plus

742
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: one ninety five on me. Give me Brunton by the

743
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: dog here. I'm feeling the dog too, Kenny.

744
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 5: Let's go all right. Brian Patrie with conviction likes Derrek Brunson.

745
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 6: Plus one ninety five remains to be seen as to

746
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 6: whether or not it's going to be Blonde Brunson feels

747
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 6: like maybe he is going to do away with that

748
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 6: look now that he's lost, unless you're seeing something on

749
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 6: social media. But to that end, right, I had won

750
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 6: five in a row going into the Jared Cannonier flight

751
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 6: that was UFC two seventy one February twenty twenty two.

752
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 6: Then he was going to face Jack Romanson late last

753
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 6: year Brunson was forced to pull out, So it has

754
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 6: been a year long layoff for Brunson. Duplusy obviously trying

755
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 6: to keep the momentum going after a big win at

756
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Speaker 6: UFC two eighty two. Not all that long ago can flow.

757
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 6: Brunson the dog, Duplessy the favorite.

758
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 5: Which way you go?

759
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 7: I'm trying to keep my poker face. I'm hoping, I'm hoping,

760
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 7: I'm praying that he goes with dupless C.

761
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: But he know no, he's too sharp. I mean, what

762
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 5: a freaking breakdown.

763
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Speaker 7: Literally, hey, give me the ball, bro he all the goods,

764
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 7: he broke every single sick down. I have zero to add,

765
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 7: and I truly mean it. Amazing breakdown dude. Yeah, I

766
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 7: like Brunson here as well. I think there's a tremendous

767
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 7: amount of value.

768
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 5: People are looking at the winds and they're not looking

769
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 5: at the style of fight.

770
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Speaker 7: Can duplusy win, Yes, sure, But I think he's a

771
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 7: little too reckless with his striking. Sometimes it's wild and

772
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 7: he tends to wear people out, especially in that clinch.

773
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 7: Can he do that against Brunson? I don't think so.

774
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 7: So I like Brunson here as well. I think there's

775
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 7: a lot of value that way. Brunton has made a

776
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 7: career winning fights like this. We'll see if he can

777
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 7: cash plus one ninety five at DraftKings Sportsbook right now, right, Kenny,

778
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 7: we will lead with you on the featured prelim.

779
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Speaker 5: It comes your way.

780
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 6: At Banham weight, the former champion Cody Garbrandt back to

781
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 6: this division and he returns as a minus one seventy

782
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 6: favorite against Trevin five star Jones plus one forty five.

783
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 6: Jones stepping in here for an injured Julio Arse. Both

784
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 6: guys need a win, Ken Flow, you think Garbrandt or

785
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 6: Jones gets it.

786
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 7: I like this fight for Cody Garbrandt way more than

787
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 7: Julio arsay. I think that for Trevin Jones, you know,

788
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 7: he's you know, falling on hard times. You know, doesn't

789
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 7: have a whole lot of wins right now in the

790
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 7: UFC but that also means he's probably going to be dangerous, right.

791
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 7: He needs this win, and getting a win over a

792
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 7: big name like Cody Garbrandt would certainly keep him in

793
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 7: the UFC and show that he's still got, you know,

794
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 7: some stuff to offer in the division. Cody Garbrandt though,

795
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 7: so of course, you know, hasn't been too hot himself.

796
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 7: I think that Cody gets way too emotional when he fights,

797
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 7: makes some poor decisions. But man, as far as an

798
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 7: athlete and the kind of skills that he does possess,

799
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 7: we all know that, you know, he can be at

800
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Speaker 7: the top of the division.

801
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: He has proven that before.

802
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 7: His performance over Dominic Cruz was one of the best

803
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 7: performances I have seen in the championship fight period.

804
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Speaker 5: So Cody is absolutely capable.

805
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 7: I think if he's able to be disciplined during this

806
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 7: fight and let the fight kind of materialize, not force knockouts,

807
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 7: not try to force and do things that aren't there.

808
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 5: Cody wins this fight. So I like Cody here all right.

809
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 6: Last fight for Cody garb Brandt was against Kai Kata

810
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 6: Frants UFC two sixty nine. That was December of twenty

811
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Speaker 6: twenty one, and to Kenny's point bride. Jones has fallen

812
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 6: on hard times. He's lost three in a row. Last

813
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 6: win actually Cavid see two point fifty nine all the

814
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 6: way back in March of that twenty twenty one year.

815
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Speaker 6: You go in Trevin Jones or Cody garb Brand my

816
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 6: met first.

817
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: Of all, people bang on me in the comments for

818
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: nodding my head a lot when Kenny talks, it's fucking

819
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: Kenny Floyd. Of course I'm gonna agree with him, and

820
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: he literally had he said what I have written down here.

821
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: Cody's performance against Don Cruz is one of my top

822
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: five performances of all time. Don Cruise is demanding way

823
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: go and that performance was unbelievable and I'm so excited

824
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: to see that back. Round one versus TJ in the

825
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: first fight was very similar. Then he kind of lost

826
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: it and we've never really seen it back. And I

827
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: have mixed feelings about Cody fighting. If I'm being honest

828
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: with you, I like Cody a lot, and I'm not

829
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: in the position to retire any fighter, but it's just,

830
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of knockouts they stack up. He

831
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: had a couple in his amateur career as well. A

832
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: lot in his pro career. But he's so talented, you

833
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And it's just if that just

834
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: the chin just plagued him. But I like what he's doing.

835
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: And went to Mark Henry kind of branch out from

836
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: Team Alpamel went to twenty five. He's trying new things,

837
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: trying to find some SSTs, but he's not there. Jones

838
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 3: has power, but I think it's a little overstated. Only

839
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: three Ko wins. He's more well rounded of a fighter,

840
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: so his power I think might be lower stated. But

841
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: his chin is not. The guy doesn't go away. He's

842
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: in your face. He is going to be stalking the

843
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: whole time. Cody should style on him. Cody is incredibly athletic,

844
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: He's fast. If he just stays within himself, like Kenny says,

845
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: just let the fight come to him, kind of let

846
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: it go.

847
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 5: He could win.

848
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna take a tactic here for my boy

849
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: John Innick. Cody's an Ohio guy. I like Cody. It

850
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: bothers me that he's on this run. I'm gonna go

851
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: Jones to fade myself. Yes for a win for Cody

852
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 3: because I think Cody needs it. And again, incredible talented dude,

853
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 3: I just I root for him a lot.

854
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 5: I love it all.

855
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 6: Right, Let's get to the pay per view main card opener.

856
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 6: You can see it live on ESPN Plus. At middleweight

857
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 6: Bo Nickel minus fifteen hundred as he makes his UFC

858
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 6: debut against Jamie Pickett, who comes back at plus nine hundred.

859
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 6: I don't even know where to begin here, Like, what

860
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 6: if Jamie Pickett beats Bo Nickel? Could you amage? Like

861
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 6: if I was in your seats, guys, right, you could

862
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 6: do a five unit play seventy five hundred to pay

863
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 6: five hundred on bow Nickel. He's minus fifteen hundred. He's

864
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 6: been a pro for like seven months. Sure, but Jamie Pickett,

865
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 6: on the other side, can produce the win of a career.

866
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 6: I think I've said publicly that it's a little bit

867
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 6: of a mind fuck for Picket and for j Perrin

868
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 6: against rold Rosas Junior, when you feel like maybe they're

869
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 6: sending you out to be like a lamb to slaughter. So, Brian,

870
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 6: what do you think about the price on Bo Nickel

871
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 6: minus fifteen hundred on DraftKings Sportsbook as he makes his debut?

872
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: Price makes sense? I get it. First off, Jamie I'm

873
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: not going to talk about a lot about you in

874
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 3: this breakdown. I apologize. You seem like a great guy.

875
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: You're from one of the greatest cities in the world,

876
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: women's in North Carolina, blue collar guy. I love your story,

877
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: but this is the Bow Show. I am a bow

878
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: nickel guy, and the reason being is I think he's

879
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 3: ultimately talented. I have DMS from five years ago trying

880
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: to get him on the podcast before you even thought

881
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: about MMA. I'm an MMA fan, I'm a UFC fan.

882
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: I want the best for those sport and over these years,

883
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: we we as the MMA community, have lost out on

884
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: these five star, blue chip prospects. They go to WWE,

885
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: like Gable Stevenson. We never got a David Taylor in

886
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: the UFC. We never got a Kyle Steiner, we never

887
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: got a Kale Sanderson, is an amazing probably the greatest

888
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: American wrestler. We got yol Ramera at thirty six. You know,

889
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: we got brock Lezer after WWE thing. We're not getting

890
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: Gordon Ryan. You know what I mean, he does he's

891
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: not interested. This is a guy we got and we

892
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: got him, and he's that good and I know he's

893
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: fought kind of nobody's He's three and ozer and I

894
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: don't want to. I don't want to rush it, but

895
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 3: I'm going to rush it. I'm on the boat train here.

896
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: My freight train that I'm driving has no brakes.

897
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 7: Uh.

898
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: When Bo Nickel fought again on the Contender Series and

899
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: he was in a position where he jumped to his

900
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: back as a wrestler and locked in a triangle choke,

901
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: was impressive. When I saw him grapple Gordon Ryan, the

902
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: keying with two weeks of jiu jitsu training, that's the

903
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: guy that I want to root for. That's the guy

904
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: I'm getting behind. So I think Bo Nickel by whatever

905
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: he wants. Really, I really truly think it's gonna be

906
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: by submission. Jamie Pickett take down defense is thirty one percent,

907
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: you know, uh, and has given up some Submissions's durable guy.

908
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: But I think Bo's gonna take what he wants, give

909
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: me both by submission. Can we do a twenty unit

910
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: in parlay or write? Can I give you my house note?

911
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 2: Uh?

912
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: No, it's way too high to lock anything up. I'm

913
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: gonna play a bow Nickel ticket. You have to. It's

914
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 3: his first right in the OC. I have a tattoo

915
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: bet with my buddies that if he doesn't become world

916
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: champion one day, they can tattoo wherever they want on me.

917
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: So I yeah, I got a lot ride on this,

918
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: so I'm all in on Bow.

919
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 6: Well, that's why I kind of led the conversation with

920
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 6: could you imagine if we're sitting here next Monday and

921
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 6: Jamie Pickett has beaten Bo Nickel, right, because I can

922
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 6: tell you if Bo Nickel loses to Jamie Pickett, You're

923
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 6: probably getting a tattoo Jamie Pickett probably not gonna be

924
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 6: Alex Peta or anybody.

925
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 8: Else, right.

926
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 6: Jamie Pickett had a win last January, then he dropped

927
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 6: two in a row to close out his year. Bo Nickel,

928
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 6: obviously the wrestling credentials are off the charts, the twenty

929
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 6: nineteen Big Ten Athlete of the Year, one of the

930
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 6: best collegiate athletes in this country. Back in twenty nineteen

931
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 6: two submission wins on Dana White Contender Series Kenny in

932
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 6: a combined one minute and fifty four seconds. But like

933
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 6: I could never as a sports better go to the

934
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 6: window and then a huge ticket on Bo Nickel. But

935
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 6: in this setting, right, it's make believe money like you

936
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 6: go seventy five hundred bucks on bon Nickel. Now, if

937
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 6: he loses, you lose the main event challenge probably for

938
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 6: the year. But Kenny, how do you handicap Nickel and

939
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 6: pick it and ultimately which way you go?

940
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

941
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 7: I mean, listen, I've been watching bon Nickel wrestle for

942
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 7: a long time. Absolute stud over at Penn State, trained

943
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 7: by the great Cayle Sanderson, and was just such a

944
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 7: force and had such a unique style of wrestling as well.

945
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 7: So it showed that he's an intelligent guy, truly understands grappling,

946
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 7: and once he was committed to mixed martial arts, you

947
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 7: could see he's been putting in the work and you

948
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 7: know he's going to be tough to beat. I don't

949
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 7: care who you are, And if we're being honest, let's

950
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 7: call this fight what it is. This was set up

951
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 7: for bon Nickel to look good on this pay per view, right,

952
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 7: I mean, Jamie Pickett, he when you're looking at this fight,

953
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 7: you're like, okay, well, let me just look at this. Honestly,

954
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 7: is there anything in Jamie's game that tells me he

955
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 7: could defeat Bo?

956
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 5: There just isn't.

957
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, you know you're looking for something, maybe some kind

958
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 7: of special power or some kind of thing, maybe like

959
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 7: some kind of Shazam type submission, just not there. And

960
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 7: bo Nicol is going to be a problem for guys

961
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 7: in the top ten. Perhaps right now it doesn't have

962
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 7: the experience, but these the kind of fights that you

963
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 7: know he's going to get experience wise, that's going to

964
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 7: help build that confidence in that skill set and that

965
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 7: cage time, which is so essential as you ascend towards

966
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 7: that top ten type ranking.

967
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 5: So bowneckle wins this one.

968
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 7: You know, it'd be cool to see Jamie perform well

969
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 7: and maybe pull this massive upset.

970
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 5: But let's bow.

971
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 6: And I do like the last thing you said because

972
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 6: I do hope that Jamie Pickett is competitive, because I

973
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 6: think that would be a huge feather in his cap.

974
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 6: But I do agree with a lot of the sentiments

975
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 6: you guys are saying. Kind of reminds me of my

976
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 6: time back on MMA Live when Ken Flow's getting ready

977
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 6: to fight Clay Weeda. I'm thinking, how's Claik Wieda fucking

978
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 6: win this fight?

979
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 5: No, no, no way to win? Club? All right? At lightweight?

980
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 5: How about this?

981
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 6: Brian Matous Gamrock minus won seventy Jalen Turner plus one

982
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 6: forty five. So I ran into Turner at the host

983
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 6: Hotel at one of these events, like six months ago.

984
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 6: He's been out since last July. Did have some injuries

985
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 6: that he needed to clean up. I believe one of

986
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 6: them surgically, if I'm not mistaken. And he was to

987
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 6: put his five fight winning streak on the line here

988
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 6: against Dan Hooker, but Hooker broke a bone and is out,

989
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 6: and now it's the in stepping Matou's Cameron. He'll try

990
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 6: to bounce back from a lost to Benny Daryushan Abu

991
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 6: Dhabi last October. Gamroth the favorite Turner, the dog Brian Petree.

992
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 5: Which way you go?

993
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this happens sometimes UFC where the replacement fighters. I

994
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: think it's a better fight. I mean, listen, no knocking

995
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: Dan Hooker. Gamrot is going to be the biggest test

996
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: for Turner because the only time we've seen Turner besides

997
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: the Vincents was the De Luke fight have trouble with Steamrollers.

998
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: Steamrollers took him down and control him the whole time.

999
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: He's obviously said he's fixed that. He's on a four

1000
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: fight four finished wind streak or four finished win streak.

1001
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: Excuse me. I know he's not a five fight win shake,

1002
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 3: but against really top guys again, not against scrubs, like

1003
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: he's knocking out Brabadell and you know he's taking next home.

1004
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: I like this dude a lot. And gam Rot, you know,

1005
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 3: against the bendr used Fi, I feel like he got

1006
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: exposed a little bit. Impressive record is looking in UFC.

1007
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: He rushes everything, and I think the range is gonna

1008
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: give him some problems here against Turner. I mean, Turner

1009
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: is massive for lightweight, and if he rushes in with

1010
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: a takedown, there's a neck right there. If he rushes in,

1011
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 3: there's a knee waiting for you, there's a punch waiting

1012
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: for you. I was surprised we're getting turned out plus

1013
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: one forty five.

1014
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: I get it.

1015
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: Gamrod is a guy that could cause problems for Turner

1016
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: with the wrestling, the grappling, the cardio, and Turner's been

1017
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: been just a hammer lately, so let's see if he

1018
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: can be a nail. But I just I can't. I

1019
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: can't go against the hot handed Turner. I think that

1020
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: I think this guy's an absolute dogg in there. Give

1021
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: me another dog shot here. I like Turner by in

1022
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: this two. I don't know knockout or or submission, but

1023
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: some kind of inside the distance for sure.

1024
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 6: All right, Kenny, Jalen Turner plus one forty five the

1025
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 6: play for Brian Petree. And when Ryan Span took a

1026
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 6: microphone after this main event, when Nikita Kirilov got delayed,

1027
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 6: you know, he sort of was intimating that he was

1028
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 6: going to go back into champ camp on Monday. And

1029
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 6: I do believe for these fighters who are chasing a championship, right,

1030
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 6: it's like you gotta kind of be ready to face

1031
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 6: all the elite guys. I like the fact that Jalen

1032
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 6: Turner is stepping up here. He was going to be

1033
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 6: probably a two or three to one favorite against Dan Hooker.

1034
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 6: Now he's in the role of underdog. But hey man,

1035
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 6: if you're going to be the lightweight champion, you're probably

1036
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 6: gonna have to beat matauj Gamrot. How do you think

1037
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 6: Jayalen Turner handles this stylistic challenge ken blow and ultimately

1038
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 6: which way do you fall?

1039
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought that up.

1040
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 7: And we have to ask why was he a favorite

1041
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 7: against Dan Hooker and why is he an underdog against Gamrot.

1042
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 7: You know, I think that's a very important question, and

1043
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 7: I share a lot of the sentiment that brought Petrie has,

1044
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 7: especially in regards to Jalen Turner. I used to follow

1045
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 7: every UFC fighter when I was calling the fights. I

1046
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 7: would follow every UFC fighter out there. I stopped doing that.

1047
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 7: It was just I don't care about their timeline, if

1048
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 7: I'm being honest. When I see Jaylen Turner fight, I

1049
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 7: watched him fight him, like, I gotta follow this guy.

1050
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be something. He's something special.

1051
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 7: His size, I think his martial arts attitude, he executes

1052
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 7: when when the lights are bright, the improvements that he's

1053
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 7: made over time since losing to Forarvola, I've been very

1054
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 7: impressed with this kid, the maturity, everything. However, I have

1055
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 7: to put the emotions aside because I do think Gamroth

1056
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 7: is a very tough stylistic matchup for him, you know,

1057
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 7: just because you know what Gamroth's gonna do and it's

1058
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 7: very tough to stop it. You know, Benny Daryusch is

1059
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 7: a special grappler. He's got a ton of experience, and

1060
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 7: I think that even him, he blew me away with

1061
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 7: how oh well he did against Gamroth. Can Jalen Turner

1062
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 7: do that at this stage of the game, I'm not

1063
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 7: so sure. If he does, I would love to see it.

1064
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 7: I would love to be surprised, but I don't know

1065
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 7: if he has that level of experience with his grappling.

1066
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 7: I think he does have some threats submission wise, but

1067
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 7: I think that Gamroth is very good when it comes

1068
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 7: to positional exchanges where he doesn't put himself in a

1069
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 7: tremendous amount of trouble.

1070
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 5: Really you just don't really see it.

1071
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 7: And I think this is a favorable matchup for him

1072
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 7: not taking it, you know, you know, with a full

1073
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 7: camp necessarily, So I think that's favorable to Turner. But

1074
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 7: I think Gamroth is the favorite here because of his

1075
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 7: grappling experience and his ability to force it into that realm.

1076
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 7: And I think Turner is going to have a tough

1077
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 7: time just moving and being successful consistently over time when

1078
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 7: it comes to the transitional grappling game, So would love

1079
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 7: to be surprised. He absolutely has a big advantage on

1080
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 7: the feet, no question about that, with his reach and

1081
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 7: power and speed, but I think Gamrat's just not going

1082
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 7: to allow him to do that.

1083
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 5: So I like Gambart here by decision.

1084
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 6: Really good breakdown, And yeah, I mean that Kenny Flora

1085
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 6: and Instagram follow is hard to come by, Like the

1086
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 6: dude just doesn't hand out follows like John Annakle follow anybody.

1087
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 5: Not the case, And you're right too.

1088
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 6: I just I kept taking notes when you talk about

1089
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 6: Jaylen Turner, write the coachability, the MMA attitude, like there's

1090
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 6: so much to love about this total package. And I

1091
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 6: love the fact that he's taken this fight because certainly

1092
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 6: on paper it would appear to be a more difficult

1093
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 6: one than the one that was originally presented.

1094
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 7: Definitely, And I would have said on the record I

1095
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 7: would have picked him against Hooker.

1096
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 5: I like that fight with Dan Hooker. Yeah, all right.

1097
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 6: Of all the predictions that I was going to get

1098
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 6: from you guys today, I think I was most curious

1099
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 6: about this fight. It's a featured bout at welterweight, Shovcott

1100
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 6: Rockmanov minus five hundred, I would say prohibitively favored here

1101
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 6: against Jeff Neil, who is plus four hundred. As you

1102
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 6: guys know, this fighter initially was to go down January fourteenth.

1103
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 6: Neil was forced to pull out UFC kept the matchup

1104
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 6: together and really a good test.

1105
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 5: I think Brian for the sixteen. I know Rockmanov.

1106
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 6: He is a minus five hundred betting favorite Saturday Night

1107
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 6: Love to fight hate.

1108
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 3: The line, Jeff Neewat plus four hundred is a value boys,

1109
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 3: wet dream you hammer it what. Rockmanov is an absolute

1110
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: nightmare for anyone. He's just a casual sixteen and oh

1111
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: with sixteen fucking finishes, that's all. No big deal fighting,

1112
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 3: really good competition. God, the MMA Math. Part of my

1113
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: brain's going Okay, they both fought Neil Magni, one destroyed

1114
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 3: and one lost to him, you know what I mean.

1115
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 3: And you never go to MMA Mac because you'll get

1116
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: lit the fuck up. But the part of my brain's

1117
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 3: going there with that, right, Jeff Neil striking is fantastic,

1118
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: eighty five percent take down defense as well, quite confident,

1119
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 3: coming into a couple sound bites from a month ago

1120
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: saying I'm gonna run through this guy. Why is everyone

1121
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 3: think this guy's great? You know, if I beat this guy,

1122
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: don't belonging to these seas. He's making these quotes and

1123
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: it's like, whoa, buddy, let's slow down. This guy's very

1124
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 3: very good. You know, when Rockmanoff at the UFC, I

1125
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: was more excited for Rockmanoff or what he's done outside

1126
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: the UFC than I was with someone like a Chamaiyah

1127
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 3: Tamaias loved the world on Fire. But outside of the USC,

1128
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: besides that one win over Kabee's guy, I thought he

1129
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 3: was kind of Luke warmed and then obviously I was wrong.

1130
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: He's amazing. But rock Monov come to UC, I I

1131
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: was excited. But listen, Jeff Neil at plus four hundred,

1132
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: you take the shot, you move on right, Nah, I

1133
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: can't give me rock Modov. He's a special talent, he

1134
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: truly is. And I think, you know, he dictates his fight.

1135
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: I think his striking is good enough, and he's long enough,

1136
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: and I think he wins everywhere. I'm gonna say by

1137
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: sub I think he gets a finish because I love

1138
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: a good streak. Let's go seventeen and oh with seventeen finishes, who.

1139
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: Got to get him?

1140
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 6: In the video game shot? Got rock Model minus five hundred.

1141
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 6: He is tenth in the world, Jeff Neil number seven.

1142
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 6: We mentioned off the top of the show that Jeff

1143
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 6: Neil certainly understands the value of a win over this man.

1144
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 6: That's why he was eager to take this fight when

1145
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 6: others were not.

1146
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 5: Ken flow. What do you think he can do with it? Uh?

1147
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 7: Petrie with another great breakdown, leaves me no room to

1148
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 7: break down anything else.

1149
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 5: No, I listen, it was beautiful man.

1150
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 7: I think he spot on juicy juicy numbers here for

1151
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 7: Jeff Neil. You know, getting Jeff Neil a plus four hundred.

1152
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 7: You don't see it every day. The problem is, how

1153
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 7: the hell are we supposed to go against the consistency

1154
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 7: of Rockmano.

1155
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 5: How how do you do it?

1156
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 7: Are you looking for some kind of vulnerability in his

1157
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 7: last few fights or even over the course of his career,

1158
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 7: Good luck finding it. He's just he's a problem everywhere,

1159
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 7: and I think he's going to be all over Jeff Neil.

1160
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 7: He's not going to give Jeff Neil those chances that

1161
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 7: sometimes you see, even guys in the top ten, top five,

1162
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 7: you know, open up.

1163
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 5: Sometimes, you know you'll.

1164
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 7: See guys that like they're doing good and all of

1165
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 7: a sudden, you know, they make some kind of silly mistake.

1166
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 7: Rockmanoff is not cut from that cloth, John Annick. He

1167
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 7: just doesn't make those mistakes. He does not leave any

1168
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 7: doors open for you. And I think he's taking this

1169
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 7: extremely seriously. This is a huge fight for him, and

1170
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 7: these are the kind of fights that ellim. You beat

1171
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 7: a guy like Jeff Neil, you get his spect and

1172
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 7: I think he understands that, Uh, Rockmanoff, I think could

1173
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 7: be something special. That division is just nuts, But I

1174
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 7: just I can't take that risk right now. It's juicy,

1175
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 7: it's tempting, but Rockmanoff is Rockmanoff.

1176
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 5: Dude. When Ken Flow pushes heavyweight before the show, I mean,

1177
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 5: how about.

1178
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about John this guys being nice

1179
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: to me. He's like, oh, BP's down five units.

1180
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 5: Let me get problem.

1181
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: Let's do fucking fire right now.

1182
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 6: All right, let us get in to the comain event

1183
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 6: for the undisputed UFC Women's Flyway title Valentina Shepchenko minus six'

1184
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 6: Ten Alexa grosso plus four sixty title defense number eight

1185
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 6: For shevchenko first became champion all the way back in twenty.

1186
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 6: EIGHTEEN i, mean how methodical Can flow? Is valentina right

1187
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 6: two title defenses every. Year now she Draws Mexico's Alexa,

1188
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 6: grosso who has been great in this, Division she's gonna

1189
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 6: have to be even. Greater This saturday, Night Ken flow

1190
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 6: will start with you who wins the comin.

1191
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 7: Event, yes sir, As i've been thinking more and more

1192
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 7: about this. Fight i've been questioning my self in my

1193
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 7: Overlooking Alexa.

1194
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 5: Grosso does she have a?

1195
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 7: SHOT i think she does if she's able to take

1196
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 7: advantage of the slow start Of, chefchenko which we typically.

1197
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 7: See grosso can get off to a quick start here and,

1198
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 7: maybe you, know maybe maybe just maybe she gets those

1199
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 7: first three rounds and Then chefchenko starts to come. Back

1200
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 7: the problem, Is chefchenko has so much, experience AND i

1201
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 7: Think grosso's best bet is really trying to stick and,

1202
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 7: move getting in and getting out against A chevchenko who

1203
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 7: also has some very decent, footwork so this is. TOUGH

1204
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 7: i also wouldn't be surprised to See chefchenko actually take

1205
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 7: the role of a, grappler maybe have that same approach

1206
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 7: that she had against someone Like. Andrage grosso has greatly

1207
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 7: improved her grappling, skill BUT i think on her back

1208
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 7: she would certainly have some problems against WHAT i think

1209
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 7: is going to be a, larger Stronger Valentina.

1210
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 5: Schevchenko she's not too shabby on.

1211
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 7: The feed, either by the, way But grosso might be

1212
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 7: a little bit quicker in certain exchanges with her. Hands but,

1213
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 7: again when you're talking about, consistency, experience big, fights five,

1214
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 7: rounders who AM i supposed to pick to Beat? Chevchenko

1215
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 7: who CAN i point to? THAT i, say this is

1216
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 7: the person that's going to do. IT i don't think

1217
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 7: there's a lady out there that can at this stage

1218
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 7: of the. GAME i Think grosso can post some interesting

1219
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 7: problems For, chefchenko especially early, on BUT i Think chefchenko

1220
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 7: is just too good to experience.

1221
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 5: Here guys Chef.

1222
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 6: Chenko minus six' Ten brid perhaps she would be minus

1223
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 6: three ten or less against Somebody Like. Aaron blanchfield but

1224
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 6: this looks pretty prohibitive. To me we got a lot

1225
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 6: of big FAVORITES at ufc two to. Eighty five your

1226
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 6: Thoughts on grosso getting her first championship opportunity here in a.

1227
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: Few days it's kind of Nice seeing voluntina under, one

1228
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: thousand though it's, pretty high and it's nice, in her,

1229
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: you know a little, bit playable KIND of i feel

1230
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: Bad for Grosso after blamsfield And. AFTER suez i feel

1231
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: she's just getting overlooked. Little bit people are talking about,

1232
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: those girls but you know she's the one with the,

1233
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 3: title fight and she's great in. The pocket her boxing

1234
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: is crispy in. The pocket she's pretty good on the ground.

1235
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 3: As well It's obviously kenny. Address it she's. Getting better

1236
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: But when valentina gets, on top. She's heavy she's heavy,

1237
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 3: on TOP and i don't know if That's where grosso wants.

1238
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: To be grosso wants to be in, the pocket exchanging

1239
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 3: good luck trying To get valentina to. DO that i

1240
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 3: feel like this Is a valentina, that's like, you know

1241
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: everyone's dogging her After The tolls santos fight a little,

1242
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: bit right and this is all you must have FORGOT who.

1243
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: I am I see valentina coming out. AGGRESSIVE here i

1244
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 3: see a lot, of kicks a lot of, fiery punches.

1245
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: Good takedowns cardi are always. On point grosso the ONLY

1246
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: way i can see. Her winning obviously she's a. Fantastic

1247
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: talent she Can catch valentine.

1248
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 5: On, The feet it's.

1249
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: All possible but really just trying to push the pace

1250
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 3: and stay in her face in. The pocket problem Is with,

1251
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 3: sotanko's footwork, Distant management she's gonna be where she wants

1252
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: to be the, Entire Time so i'm Gonna go sotanko here,

1253
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 3: as well AND then, i, think probably you, know what

1254
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 3: let's fuck. The finish you know what you must Have forgot?

1255
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: Shenko finish, fourth.

1256
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 6: Round, real quick better chance? To, Win Briy jeff Neil

1257
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 6: Or alexa Grosso Ooh. Jeff, neil okay that was gonna

1258
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 6: be our poll, question TODAY but, i think, all right

1259
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 6: we have one final prediction to make for THE Undisputed Ufc,

1260
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 6: heavyweight CHAMPIONSHIP and i want to go four wide here

1261
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 6: as we bring The Great ray longo into our main.

1262
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 6: Event discussion, This, man.

1263
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: Wait you guys are crushing.

1264
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 5: It many let me tell.

1265
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 8: You can keep me back there.

1266
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 9: Another Route, rum.

1267
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 5: Well, thank.

1268
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 6: You buddy we we butchered the clock a. Little bit

1269
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 6: i'm actually Already In las VEGAS for ufc two eighty

1270
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 6: five and didn't want to keep you waiting.

1271
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 5: Too long how you? Doing good how you doing is?

1272
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 8: The question LAST time i, SAW you i don't know

1273
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 8: if you could even, see me but how?

1274
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 5: You?

1275
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 6: FEELING yeah i had the whole double conjunctivitis thing going

1276
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 6: to our INTERVIEW with nas, last, Week right so that

1277
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 6: was brutal, man like as soon as we got off,

1278
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 6: THE air i took my contact lenses. Back out it's

1279
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 6: hard to do the show with the glasses and. The

1280
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 6: glare and.

1281
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: Let me tell you some context and conjunct divide is

1282
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: they don't. Go good, so, yeah yeah you got to get,

1283
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: those contents get, them out throw.

1284
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 6: Them Out but longo knows me so well and can

1285
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 6: pick up on my mood and. My disposition so, he's

1286
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 6: like you're a little bit, kurt TODAY and i wasn't

1287
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 6: trying to. Be curt and then some of the listeners,

1288
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 6: were like you're looking down a lot more. Than normal, it's,

1289
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 6: like dude my eyes are fucking.

1290
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 5: BLEEPING now i, FELT really i felt really bad.

1291
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 6: For YOU so i wanted to ask a question to

1292
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 6: all three of you before we get the Predictions from

1293
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 6: Petri And ken flow and then.

1294
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 5: WE'LL get vp on out.

1295
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 6: Of here but have you guys seen any of the

1296
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 6: Footage Of john jones that has been, out there the

1297
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 6: training footage where he just sort Of Tossed walt. HARRIS aside,

1298
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 6: i mean there hasn't been a, ton bride, BUT.

1299
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: No I think i think. THAT'S deliberate i think he's.

1300
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 3: Hiding IT what i KNOW what i thought WAS when

1301
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: i first, SAW that i, was like who? Is that

1302
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 3: because his back's the sides of my, mouse huge his

1303
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: upper body. Is huge and then he just kind of

1304
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 3: went in And Just walt harris. One, arm yeah that got.

1305
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: ME excited I mean i was already excited for, this

1306
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: week but that got me.

1307
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 6: Really, excited ray we Haven't Seen john jones with his

1308
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 6: shirt off, as yet but it looks to be in

1309
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 6: pretty good shape as he gets ready for his.

1310
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 5: Heavyweight debut what are your Thoughts On john jones coming in. This,

1311
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 5: Weekend no i'm.

1312
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 8: Sure, he's gonna, you know come in in. GREAT shape,

1313
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 8: i mean he looks like he's carrying that weight. No

1314
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 8: problem that's definitely as he's got the frame, for IT

1315
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 8: so i don't think that's. A, PROBLEM again i think.

1316
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 9: He always if there was any struggle with guys that

1317
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 9: were his size are bigger a, little bit that could

1318
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 9: take away that range factor. From him but, Standing up

1319
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 9: i'll still Go, with gon but he could make it

1320
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 9: an easy fight with, the TAKEDOWNS and I think gon

1321
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 9: would get probably get killed on.

1322
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: The floor but that's just, My Opinion.

1323
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 6: Ken flow there are obviously more unknowns. THAN variables i

1324
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 6: would think On The john jones, side here he's minus

1325
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 6: one fifty Five settle gone plus one. Thirty five first

1326
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 6: fight for bone since He. Defeated i'minigrayis that was three

1327
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 6: YEARS ago ufc two. Forty seven, for context that was

1328
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 6: a few WEEKS before covid nineteen took over at least

1329
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 6: here In The, united states and at, that Time seedle

1330
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 6: gone was three and oh IN. The Ufc since jones

1331
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 6: has Been idle gon has been on a terry spot,

1332
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 6: six times won five of those against high Level, Heavyweights, Kenny,

1333
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 6: Jargina Rosenstrike, Alexander Bulkov, Derek lewis taituivasa only got to get,

1334
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 6: Him obviously Francis. And ganhu i'm fascinated to see which

1335
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 6: side you guys are going. To, Fall kenny let's start, With,

1336
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 6: you jones, The, favorite gone. The underdog who's your pick

1337
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 6: in the?

1338
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 5: Main, event.

1339
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 7: YEAH listen I Think cyril gone is one of the

1340
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 7: more technical heavyweights that we've had in a very very.

1341
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 7: Long time, his footwork, his intelligence his ability to move

1342
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 7: around and lure you. Into traps you don't see it

1343
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 7: all the time. In heavyweight at the heavyweight division in mixed.

1344
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 7: Martial arts so he is a special talent and that should. Be,

1345
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 7: acknowledged however he's going against a Guy In, john jones

1346
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 7: who has had a long time to put on. This

1347
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 7: weight if you told me that he had, three months,

1348
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 7: six months maybe year to go from two h five,

1349
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 7: TO heavyweight I would i would be scratching my head

1350
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 7: a little bit, and, go.

1351
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 5: Well let's See What john jones is gonna.

1352
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 7: Show up he's had a long time to put on,

1353
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 7: that muscle which means he's had a long time to

1354
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 7: move around at, that weight and he's had a long

1355
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 7: time to.

1356
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 5: Get stronger and stronger. And stronger that's.

1357
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 7: Not good And Also john jones when, he's hungry when,

1358
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 7: he's pissed that's when we see him at. His best

1359
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 7: when he has, new challenges when he has, great challenges

1360
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 7: that's when we see him at. His BEST am i

1361
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 7: supposed to Believe that god is going to stop Takedowns Against,

1362
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 7: john jones a guy who won the takedown Battle Against

1363
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 7: daniel cormier and and, AT, TIMES dc i love you

1364
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 7: made it, look easy like kind of like just that was.

1365
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 7: Just scary and say what you Want About john jones

1366
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 7: outside of, the cage this.

1367
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 5: And that.

1368
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 7: When he's at, his best he really does look like

1369
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 7: he's the best mixed martial arts artist we've. Ever SEEN

1370
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 7: and i think we're gonna see. That AGAIN and i

1371
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 7: think he has the striking skills the length to not

1372
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 7: be so bothered by Someone Like. Cyril gone But as ray,

1373
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 7: alluded to if he gets in that clinch and puts

1374
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 7: gun on, his back it's not gonna. Look, Close Okay

1375
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 7: cyril gone is not going to be able to get

1376
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 7: back to.

1377
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 5: His feet he's not gonna be able To Submit.

1378
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 7: John jones, you know do we Remember When vitor belfourt

1379
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 7: locked up one of the tightest arm bars and looked

1380
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 7: like He Snapped john jones's Arm And john jones shook.

1381
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 5: Him off like he was a, little kid like get off,

1382
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 5: of me can't and he just, like look just shook

1383
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 5: him off like it. Was nothing this is. At heavyweight,

1384
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 5: You Know cyril gon isn't.

1385
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 7: That dude he's not a brazillion just to, black belt

1386
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 7: doesn't really want to. Be there, and also, you know

1387
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 7: as Smart As cyril gone, can be you also have

1388
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 7: to wonder about some of the decisions he Made against Francis,

1389
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 7: and gano and even in that fight Against, ty tuivasa

1390
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 7: there was a little bit of, you know, octagon immaturity

1391
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 7: and that comes. With time and he's going to get

1392
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 7: the Guy In john jones who has been in so

1393
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 7: many five round fights and dealing with that kind, of

1394
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 7: Pressure And john jones getting up for something.

1395
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 5: LIKE that i see. THIS happening I See john jones

1396
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 5: being back in.

1397
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 7: The spotlight relishing it and PERFORMING like i think we

1398
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 7: all know. HE can I Like john jones here and

1399
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 7: at minus one, fifty five, Come On, Brian Petrie john

1400
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 7: jones minus won, Fifty Five seedle gon plus one. Thirty

1401
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 7: five i'm trying not to read too Much Into seattle

1402
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 7: gohn's comments. This week we're obviously going to sit down

1403
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 7: with him here in a, few days but he's talking

1404
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 7: to me like a prize fighter who got into this

1405
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 7: to make money and not like a. Martial artist and

1406
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 7: say what you Want About, john jones but he's a

1407
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 7: mixed martial artist with an insatiable appetite for martial, arts

1408
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 7: Knowledge and i'm not sure we can say That About.

1409
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 7: Seattle gone all of that, being said there's No denying gon's.

1410
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 7: Heavyweight credentials he's more experienced in the. Weight Class, brian

1411
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 7: petrie we need a main event prediction and then we'll

1412
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 7: let you get on.

1413
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 3: YOUR way i think we got the old. Bones back

1414
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: he's sweetened late Night about. Cyril's performances this is a

1415
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 3: guy who's hyper folks ready for WAR and i know

1416
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: you can you listen to fighters and, they, GO oh

1417
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: i wasn't, you know because he's coming off to lackluster

1418
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 3: Performances Over dominic rez who hasn't won, a fight And

1419
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 3: Then thiago sante is no longer IN. The UFC but i.

1420
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 3: Believe it he said he had. No fear he's just

1421
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 3: kind of going through. THE motions i think this is

1422
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 3: a reset on. His career let's go up and fight the.

1423
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: Big boys the original plan was let's go out And

1424
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 3: Get francis frankston, longer there so now we get the

1425
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: next best Thing is. Siril GONE and i think on

1426
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 3: the feet. They're similar they like the, front kick they

1427
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 3: like to touch each other's kicks a. LITTLE bit I

1428
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: think god might have a little bit better of, the

1429
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 3: BOXING but i mean it comes down to. THE wrestling

1430
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: I Remember john jones Going Against brandon veras throwing an

1431
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 3: elbow fight over. On top HE finished dc on the

1432
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 3: ground with some brutal ground. And pound gustisten rematch brutal

1433
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: ground and pound if he gets his fight on, the

1434
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,959
Speaker 3: ground his long arms coming. To play he's. On top

1435
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 3: those elbows are. Like punches, he's heavy edvy, hips pressure

1436
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 3: he's got, good chokes and he's even gonna be stronger

1437
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 3: now that he looks what, we've seen at least a,

1438
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: little bit he appears to, be STRONGER and i Feel

1439
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 3: like gone is kind of going through this. Laxical. Days,

1440
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: Lit hey i'm in the main event fight for, the

1441
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 3: time which, is great that's. His DEMEANOR but i also

1442
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 3: feel like you got a killer. In there the number

1443
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 3: one pound for pound fighter who hasn't fought a little

1444
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 3: bit and once Is DUB so I Got john jones by,

1445
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 3: finished here and just to kind of flex a, LITTLE

1446
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 3: bit i got him at plus one twenty two because

1447
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: not plus ONE sixty i thought that. WAS insane i

1448
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 3: nabbed him at plus one twenty so minus one, sixty

1449
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 3: five minus one fifty five whatever he's currently sitting, right

1450
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 3: now that's a. GORGEOUS number I Think, JOHN jones i

1451
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: know the layoffs a little, Bit WHATEVER but i think

1452
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: the guy's. DIALED in i think he goes in HERE

1453
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: and i think he gets it to the ground and.

1454
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 3: IT'S over i will see.

1455
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 6: How dialed in you are this weekend with your selections

1456
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 6: as you try to close that gap On. Ken flow

1457
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 6: if you want More, from petrie why would you Not

1458
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,959
Speaker 6: At BRIAN petrie nna on? Social media he's GOT the Nna,

1459
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 6: Tak yeah petri.

1460
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: Ken fla or, Excuse, Me ray dennis wazoo get that?

1461
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: Guy, here, yeah yeah.

1462
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 5: Big win, This.

1463
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: Weekend bud, he looked thank you.

1464
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: Very much HOPEFULLY he's i think that's going to get,

1465
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: him in. Believe IT so i think it. Has, to

1466
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 2: yeah that's what That's what. Shelby wanted that's what. He

1467
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: got so we'll see if he backs it up and brings.

1468
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: Him in, So yeah. I'M excited i.

1469
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: Love, It cool thanks.

1470
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: Very much.

1471
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 6: Appreciate that there He Is brian petree with us for

1472
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 6: the main. Event Challenge so ray tell us a little

1473
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 6: bit About The dennis, bezuoka performance, and yes this seems

1474
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 6: to be an athlete who's path TO the ufc as.

1475
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 6: An eventuality he's not, there yet but obviously went out

1476
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 6: took care of business at a high level over.

1477
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: The.

1478
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: Weekend, YEAH look i Don't think i've ever met a

1479
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: kid that wants to be IN the ufc MORE than

1480
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: pacifica and the ups and downs In the, contenders series

1481
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: and he's not. On it it's just it's. Been CRAZY

1482
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: but i mean the fact that he got on that

1483
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: plane and flew fifteen hours to take a fight because

1484
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: his ring of combat fight flew fell. Fell, through uh

1485
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: it just shows you how how much he. Wants it and,

1486
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: YOU know i had Talked. TO shelby i. Called HIM

1487
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: after i talked, TO him, i, said look he, wants finishes,

1488
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: and uh that's what the kid went out. And did

1489
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: so hats Off to bazuka just for, the finish for

1490
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: even taking, that trip, you know fighting Up. AWEIGHT cliss,

1491
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: i MEAN he i think if you told him to

1492
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 2: fight a guy two, oh five he's fighting a guy

1493
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: two five To get he wants it. So bad my

1494
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: only hope is that when he, GETS there i hope

1495
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: he's as happy as you know as the, journey was,

1496
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: you know like that wanting to. Get there, but yeah,

1497
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: so nice really. Nice kid uh, you know we got

1498
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 2: a couple of really good young guys coming up and

1499
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: let's see what they. Could do but they're all excited to,

1500
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 2: be there, and uh he's one.

1501
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 6: Of them and don't Confuse what ray is Saying As

1502
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 6: dennis bezuka being one of these happy to.

1503
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 5: Be here once he gets TO, The ufc, no, no,

1504
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 5: no yeah well he can actually make. A run, oh,

1505
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 5: no no the, Kids first, oh no the.

1506
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: Kid's Good but I'M saying i think because of, you

1507
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 2: know winning On The list, Contender series dana having a,

1508
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: bad night, you know that's Just it's, i'm saying the

1509
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: ups and downs he's been through has, been crazy and,

1510
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: you know and he's always been Training with Al And

1511
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: al joe and, those guys so he knows what it's

1512
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: like to be around the. Big show he's well prepared

1513
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: when he. Gets there IT'S just i think it was

1514
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: just bad luck and timing that he hasn't. Been there and,

1515
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: YOU know i got to the point with SAY do i.

1516
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: JUST don't i, don't know you can't ask. ME ANYMORE

1517
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: i i really don't know what. To do BUT when

1518
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 2: i Talked to show and, he, said look he, needs

1519
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: finishes and that's what. He got so we'll see. WHAT happens, i,

1520
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: think uh, you know you could see he how bad he.

1521
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: Wanted that he just, you know.

1522
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 5: It's Great That sean shelby still Takes That ray longo

1523
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 5: phone call when it.

1524
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: Comes, in YEAH well i took him, in person but

1525
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.

1526
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 5: Either way so maybe he wouldn't take that. Phone, call, well,

1527
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 5: hey hey.

1528
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: One quick Thing? On JONES can I? THINK jones, i look,

1529
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: first off there's always an unknown, with him right what

1530
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: he's really doing on, the outside and if, he's trained and,

1531
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: you know fighters, are, crazy man they'll tell you they're

1532
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: going to win the title up until the data they're in.

1533
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: A wheelchair so it doesn't, you know he could have

1534
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: his old. Game back we don't know what's going. TO

1535
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 2: happen i think, FOR me I think i think his

1536
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: ego is going to say he wants to get this

1537
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: guy out on. HIS feet i think that's what he's

1538
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 2: going to try. TO do i think it's not going

1539
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: to go good. For him he's going to revert to

1540
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 2: the wrestling which he has and that's how he wins.

1541
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 2: The FIGHT but i Do think john's ego and he

1542
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: wants to show you what he. Talking about, You know

1543
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 2: i'll stand up with. THE guy i just don't think

1544
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: that would be the right thing. To do and if,

1545
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: he yeah and You, know kenny you know the other

1546
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: guys he's gotten in Trouble That derek lewis is the

1547
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: Tytoo of. OS's all they don't, have wrestling so it's

1548
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 2: over at. That point they have NO. Plan b they

1549
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: if this guy has A, plan b and it's a

1550
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: pretty fricking GOOD. Plan b So If john jones is

1551
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: on and he's the guy you guys are saying, he

1552
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 2: is and it'll all. Make sense he'll win that fight

1553
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: easy if he.

1554
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 6: Wants to so when some, fighters retire if their body,

1555
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 6: will allow they will train in martial arts for the

1556
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 6: rest of. Their lives there's another segment of our roster

1557
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 6: that when their careers, are, over yeah they might do

1558
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 6: some strength, and conditioning but they will not be. Training

1559
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 6: RIGHT and i wanted to get your guys's collective thoughts

1560
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:23,480
Speaker 6: On seedle Gon Because domina cruz suggested In an instagram

1561
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 6: comment that maybe these are just marketing tactics From seedle

1562
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 6: gon coming out and saying that he really doesn't train

1563
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 6: much when he doesn't have a fight on. The BOOKS

1564
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 6: but i think maybe there's more, to IT and i

1565
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 6: think this sport came very easily To. Seedle gon he

1566
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 6: was able to realize AN interim ufc heavyweight championship very

1567
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 6: early on in. His CAREER but i just don't know

1568
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 6: that he has like the love and the competitive Nature

1569
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 6: That john jones has for mixed. Martial ARTS so i

1570
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 6: just wanted to get, your thoughts both of you guys on,

1571
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 6: those comments because candidly a lot is going to be

1572
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 6: made of them during, this WEEK and i.

1573
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 5: Think rightfully, so yeah.

1574
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: Let me jump, in FIRST because i forget my thoughts

1575
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: in like a split szeching that KID can't i Can't

1576
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: hold That's why. I'M interrupted i can't hold. It out,

1577
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 2: BUT yeah i agree one hundred percent, With. YOU john

1578
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: I think i See Like cyril gun losing and it's

1579
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: not even a, big deal like, YOU know i don't

1580
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 2: think he'd, be upset. You know, oh yeah, learning experience

1581
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: you all. Like that but you're right as far as the.

1582
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 2: MARTIAL arts i hope it's a, marketing PLOY but i

1583
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 2: think you're dead on, WITH that i. REALLY do i

1584
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: Don't think kenny said something. About rockmanoff he takes it

1585
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: serious like a lot of, guys do and a lot of.

1586
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: GUYS don't a lot of guys just go. In there

1587
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: they like, to fight they're picking up. A paycheck they

1588
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 2: like the bullshit that comes, with It the instagram shit

1589
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 2: and the fucking all the other you Know what. I'm

1590
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: saying but this is the guys that couldn't give a shit.

1591
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,919
Speaker 2: About that they want to win and they take. It, SERIOUS,

1592
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: kenny i even though you probably like brushed, over that

1593
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 2: that's THE point i honed. In on and. It's true

1594
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: some of these guys. Are serious some of these guys

1595
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 2: are just jacking off and they go to the gym

1596
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 2: when they have, a FIGHT and i don't think they

1597
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 2: give a shit if they want, to lose. You know

1598
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 2: and Not that, cyril's UP but i think. You're right

1599
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,520
Speaker 2: he had any not an, easy pit but it came naturally.

1600
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: To him and, you know he said some. Good fights but,

1601
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 2: you know the first time we saw any type of,

1602
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: wrestling activity it just didn't. Look GOOD and i don't

1603
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: think you can make up for that in a couple

1604
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: of months or even. A YEAR so i hope he

1605
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: did his due diligence and he. Makes it, you know

1606
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 2: he's prepared every aspect of. That fight but we'll sit. And, SEE.

1607
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 7: Yeah i think that's a big point because when you

1608
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 7: look at a Guy Like, cyril god he is, so

1609
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 7: talented perhaps on the level of someone Like A.

1610
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 5: John jones, you, know physically he's.

1611
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 7: So impressive this guy won a kickboxing title in a

1612
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 7: very short amount, of time that went into mixed, martial,

1613
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 7: arts undefeated beating.

1614
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 5: Guys that are way more experienced than him.

1615
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 7: Very, quickly again had a title shot, very quickly had

1616
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 7: a great Performance against Fretz sin gano until the.

1617
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 5: Very, end really, SO.

1618
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 7: Yeah i think it could be true gotten by on

1619
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 7: so much talent that is both a blessing and.

1620
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 5: A CURSE and i. DON'T know, i again who knows

1621
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 5: if that's real.

1622
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 7: Or not and and also you got you got a

1623
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 7: question maybe that the timing of when he put that

1624
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 7: out he's trying to maybe weaken the Mind Of. John

1625
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 7: jones but, For, me ray, you know, whoever is whoever,

1626
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 7: That was and there are people out there that they

1627
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 7: took it maybe not.

1628
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 5: So seriously it was a sport for them and they

1629
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 5: only trained when they had. A fight.

1630
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 7: I would try to stay away from those people as

1631
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 7: MUCH as, i could because it almost becomes this infection

1632
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 7: that spreads and with. Extremely seriously, for me winning and losing.

1633
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 7: WAS everything i was DEVASTATED if, i lost AND if i,

1634
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 7: DID lose i was in the gym as quickly as

1635
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 7: my body allowed. Me to even when people told me

1636
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 7: to get the hell out of, the gym it, was,

1637
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 7: LIKE no i don't have any time.

1638
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 5: TO lose i started.

1639
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 7: THIS late i need every SINGLE minute i CAN and

1640
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 7: i took it very seriously, Because again i'm not that

1641
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 7: physically imposing guy that could rely on my body getting.

1642
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 7: ME through i needed technical ability to outdo them the

1643
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 7: BEST that. I could, AND yeah i think that's a,

1644
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 7: dangerous mindset especially he gets a Guy Like john JONES

1645
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 7: that i think has been training, pretty consistently and when

1646
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 7: he gets in, the cage he has that mindset where

1647
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 7: he's out there to. Kill you he's not out there,

1648
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 7: to win he's out there. To destroy and if you

1649
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 7: don't have that, same mindset you can be. In trouble

1650
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 7: but at the very LEAST what i could say is

1651
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 7: that Against Ty, tuey vasa he did Show Or Cyril

1652
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 7: gone right did show that he knows how to come back.

1653
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 5: From adversity he. Is tough he can get hurt and come.

1654
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 7: Right back so that is very important heading into this

1655
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 7: Fight Against, john jones because he will find himself in

1656
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 7: trouble at some point in, THAT fight. I imagine, SO

1657
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 7: yeah i thought that was a very. Interesting comment i've

1658
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 7: been thinking about that.

1659
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 2: A lot, FIRST off I love cyril gun. Stand Up,

1660
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 2: he's yeah HE'S definitely i think HAS a i think

1661
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: he has a clear advantage and Look and gano people

1662
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 2: were afraid to even make a move. On him siro

1663
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 2: really he. Handled that so he handled those waters pretty.

1664
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: Good man he, wasn't nothing there was, no fear there.

1665
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 2: WAS nothing i thought he did a great job in,

1666
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: that fight excluding, you know that. One mistake, but, UH

1667
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: yeah i. Don't know he's he's definitely not Fearful Of.

1668
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: John jones but you know that that might be GOOD

1669
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 2: and i might. Be bad. You KNOW that's, i, said

1670
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 2: like you need sometimes you need that fear to drive

1671
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: you those extra rounds and sparring or conditioning or training and,

1672
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: you know to really make. It SERIOUS and i, DON'T

1673
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 2: know I, think john you. Hit it he's naturally so

1674
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 2: gifted that sometimes those guys don't, work hard.

1675
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 6: You Know question, bekins, though, right Yeah odd francis and

1676
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 6: gan him thirteen, months Ago And john jones articulated this

1677
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 6: week that's the best WRESTLER at Mma that god has

1678
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 6: Ever fought francis.

1679
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 9: And.

1680
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 5: Gone, right, so.

1681
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 6: Actually maintenance commitment has there Been From ceil gon over

1682
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 6: the last, thirteen Months, BECAUSE kenny i think you're very

1683
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 6: bright to bring up the resolve he showed and coming

1684
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 6: back To.

1685
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 5: Beat, tiger yes a very. Difficult, fight yes all the

1686
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 5: pressure Was on gone obviously as we ushered In the

1687
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 5: paris market all of.

1688
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 6: That, Stuff right, but dude if you're going To Beat, john,

1689
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 6: jones like hopefully there's been a wrestling and a grappling

1690
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 6: commitment over the last, thirteen months because that's going to

1691
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 6: be a real problem against The Heavyweight john jones.

1692
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:26,919
Speaker 5: Would.

1693
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 2: Think Yeah, and john the other, thing is, you know

1694
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: with all of, those guys all he had to do

1695
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: is worry about one ASPECT. Of mma now he's got

1696
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 2: to worry about the, other aspects you KNOW what. I

1697
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 2: mean and we saw what happened Even with francis with.

1698
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: The takedown that was one time and it's just, you

1699
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: know it was, not good, You know so IT was i.

1700
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 2: DON'T know i Do. LIKE cyril i think he's definitely a.

1701
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 2: Live underdog. FOR sure i would never go, the OPPOSITE

1702
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:59,520
Speaker 2: but i THINK fight iq and just all the accomplishments

1703
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 2: Shown on jones knows how to compete and he knows how.

1704
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 2: To win even when things aren't even, looking good he

1705
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: still finds a way to get the.

1706
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 6: Job, done yeah, all right last question because weve got

1707
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 6: to get on out. Of here i've got some voiceover

1708
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 6: commitments coming up here at the top of. The Hour,

1709
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 6: BUT ray i wanted to ask you as, A, coach

1710
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 6: yeah when you have an athlete who's sort of on

1711
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 6: the cusp, of Contention Like. Ryan spam he didn't Have

1712
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 6: The nikita kirilla fight. This weekend it's going To happen,

1713
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 6: march eleventh but he said at the postfight, PRESS conference

1714
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 6: i was going back into champ Camp, on, Monday Right

1715
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 6: jamal hill got a light heavyweight title fight on five.

1716
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 6: Weeks notice so when you have a guy on, the

1717
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 6: cusp and this is probably an, unfair Question but i'm

1718
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 6: asking as, a, fan like how do you manage his

1719
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 6: workload in trying to have the, athlete peak but also

1720
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 6: Looking At, ryan, spam right now, and saying, hey man

1721
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 6: there's a chance you're getting a title fight in the

1722
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 6: next like twenty four to thirty. Six months the division

1723
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 6: to whatever degree is. Wide open like you kind of

1724
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 6: got to stay pretty ready if you're going to be

1725
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 6: ready to take a short notice. Title fight so how

1726
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 6: do you sort of balance the rest and the recovery

1727
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 6: with the availability that seems to be so key in

1728
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 6: modern day mixed.

1729
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: Martial, arts well first of if you let him rest,

1730
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: after that because emotionally that had to be tragic. TO

1731
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 2: him i mean that that was meant we, got, passed

1732
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: awagh and, you know those things got to. Be killings so,

1733
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: you know it's always good to have people he could

1734
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 2: talk to that maybe have been in the same spot

1735
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 2: and that have gotten, through it. You KNOW so i

1736
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: think having a great support team around you is. Really

1737
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 2: important give the guy. His rest those weight cuts, are

1738
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 2: brutal and then just get him back in the gym

1739
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: and keep him positive and, you know explain to him that,

1740
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: you know you have to be ready because these chances

1741
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 2: are going to come and you don't know when they're going,

1742
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: to come and, you know as, a coach you try to.

1743
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: Balance that you make sure he doesn't go, too crazy

1744
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 2: and you make sure he's still in the gym enough.

1745
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: To wear if you got a five, week fight it's not.

1746
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: A problem you don't have to take fifty pounds off,

1747
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: the guy you KNOW what? I mean so you know you.

1748
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 2: USE it i would use it. As momentum you know

1749
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: we were, right there. Got screwed but let's stay positive

1750
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 2: and keep your body healthy and get ready to go

1751
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 2: if we.

1752
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 6: Need, TO kenny i don't know if you have anything

1753
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 6: to add. On that obviously there's gonna be another weight

1754
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 6: cut Here For. Ryan span, YOU know i think back to.

1755
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 6: Twenty eleven You beat Diego noon Az in june and you, probably,

1756
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 6: thought yeah if, You know i'm getting a title fight

1757
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 6: and they're probably going to turn me around in three or,

1758
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 6: four months and that's exactly the way. It happened, You

1759
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 6: know how, do you as a coach or trainer sort

1760
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 6: of manage that balance with your athlete who's maybe on

1761
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 6: The cusp kenny of a potential title shot IN. The,

1762
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 6: UFC yeah i think you got to be smart with,

1763
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 6: you know the pacing, of. It right it's particularly a

1764
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 6: problem IN, the pfl where they have six. Week turnarounds

1765
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 6: it's fight after fight, after fight camp after camp, after

1766
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 6: camp and it's not always an easy thing, to, balance

1767
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 6: right especially if it's a.

1768
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 5: Brutal weightcut so you've.

1769
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 7: Got to be smart, with that making sure that you're staying,

1770
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 7: on point that, your focus that your drive and your

1771
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 7: passion is still very. Much present you know that you

1772
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 7: don't get too low off of that crash OF going

1773
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 7: i have, This fight, OH no. I don't you have

1774
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 7: to keep that motivation, level high whether it's the fighter

1775
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 7: themselves or the coach kind of encouraging.

1776
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 5: That, fighter hey stay.

1777
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 7: In it stay in it where it's just around, the

1778
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 7: corner you're gonna have to do this weight. Cut again,

1779
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 7: SO yeah i mean maybe there's a day or two

1780
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 7: where you kind of, enjoy yourself but then you tell

1781
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 7: your fighter you enjoyed, that food did it?

1782
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 5: Tastes?

1783
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 7: Good cool get right back right back. To it, so

1784
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 7: yeah it's it's, a, Balance man.

1785
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 2: And it depends on the, guy too. Some guys, You,

1786
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: know look it's good to have a gym full of,

1787
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 2: fighters too because they do comfort, each other, You know,

1788
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 2: like again that's we, always said a good team and

1789
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: it'll raise. You up and they were safety net when

1790
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: you when. You fail so not that this was a,

1791
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: big failure it was out of. His control and that's the.

1792
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: Other thing all he. Could do he he can't control.

1793
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 2: What happened all he could do is control how he

1794
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: reacts to. What HAPPENED and i think sometimes when you

1795
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 2: explain that to the guys and it makes, sense there,

1796
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: you know it's easy for them to, move on a

1797
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 2: little easier for them to. Move on, but again you

1798
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: get a high strung guy who's out of, his mind

1799
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: it's going to be you're gonna have to reel them.

1800
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: In harder and, some guys, YOU know i Guy like

1801
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 2: butrob would take that and stride like. Nothing happened. ALL

1802
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 2: right i could guarantee you that he would Not even

1803
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: i'm going, to say that's exactly what he would say.

1804
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 2: TO me. I could i couldn't. Control, IT well i

1805
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 2: could control now Is how i'm going to react. To

1806
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: it and he's going to react the, right. Way guaranteed i've.

1807
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 2: Seen it.

1808
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 6: All right we're not looking for you to take a

1809
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 6: Shot At, mark zuckerberg But the instagram Handle For ray

1810
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 6: longo after he got hacked Is Now ray LONGO.

1811
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 5: M m a nine to three five eight. He's Back, What's.

1812
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: John i'm going to tell you you.

1813
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 5: DON'T know i have no clue that.

1814
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 2: THING was i want to say that thing was set

1815
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 2: up years ago, by SOMEBODY and i don't, know Why but.

1816
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 2: I'm talking i'd beg you that thing's been. A around

1817
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: how Long has instagram? BEEN around i.

1818
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 5: Don't know not ass you've, been around but.

1819
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 2: Pretty no nothing's.

1820
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 5: Been around that's Not because ray was ninety three when

1821
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 5: he sat. Up right The.

1822
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: Student baker was AROUND when i.

1823
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 5: Was thinking maybe long ago was fifty eight when the.

1824
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 5: Handle up he's gonna live.

1825
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 2: Till nine, oh, no, NO no i have, no, NO

1826
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 2: well i don't even. GO there I got, i'm.

1827
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 6: YEAH Well a longo is much MORE active i Think on.

1828
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 5: Twitter Where, you Yeah maybe Ray, long mma.

1829
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 6: But At ray longo M m a nine three five

1830
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 6: Eight on instagram zero, Posts yet so we'll see.

1831
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 5: If, eventually, YEAH.

1832
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: Well i Keep thinking i'm getting my other, account back

1833
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 2: SO yeah.

1834
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 6: I might, Oh, Good, hey RAY enjoy ufc two eighty five,

1835
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 6: and uh.

1836
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 2: We're looking forward. To it i'm glad you're. Feeling Better, Enjoy,

1837
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 2: Vegas kenny thank you repped the, good, Work buddy take,

1838
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: it Easy.

1839
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 6: Great Raymond peter longo with us here On the Anak And,

1840
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,519
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1841
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,479
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1842
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,360
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1843
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1850
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1851
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,720
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1852
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,240
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1853
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,320
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1854
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 6: longo our executive Producer is Cody Merrifur, Ken flum John

1855
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 6: And sam so long for now see.

1856
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: You.

1857
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,000
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1858
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:44,840
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