Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready,
Speaker 1: let's get it off. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on Wrestling Observer Live. We're here every day Monday
Speaker 1: through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific, six Eastern. Oo. Everybody,
Speaker 1: it's Monday here on the program. You know what that means.
Speaker 1: We got lots to talk about here today. Well, let's see,
Speaker 1: we had a rampage on Friday where c M Punk
Speaker 1: and New City's injured, but he's not relinquishing the a
Speaker 1: W title. We're gonna find out who the new interim
Speaker 1: a W champion is at Forbidden Door, and that's we'll
Speaker 1: tell you all about this whole rigamarole. We had Helen
Speaker 1: Cell last night. We had n x T two point
Speaker 1: oh in your house on Saturday. We have Raw tonight
Speaker 1: and yes, I guess we got to talk about Cody now,
Speaker 1: don't we? Yes? You know, uh, before the show is
Speaker 1: sent for VV send me a message and he said,
Speaker 1: how did we manage to get the Sasha story, the
Speaker 1: MJF story, and now the Cody story all how could
Speaker 1: we be so lucky? And uh And what I said,
Speaker 1: my opinion is that it's not that we got three
Speaker 1: stories that people are reacting like, you know whatever to,
Speaker 1: but it's a fact that now we're at a point
Speaker 1: in life where people react like that to every major story.
Speaker 1: So this ain't gonna end. Cody is just the latest.
Speaker 1: You know, By the end of this week, something else
Speaker 1: is gonna happen and everybody's gonna have to plant their
Speaker 1: flag and and get all passionate about it. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to talk a little bit about Cody in
Speaker 1: a way that maybe everybody won't go crazy ha ha.
Speaker 1: I gonna anyway, We'll get going after the break, everybody
Speaker 1: Observer Live back in the show. Bran Albert is here
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer Live Mix, and Bervitti also Wrestling Observer dot Com.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's try not to waste too much
Speaker 1: time on this. Okay, we don't have to talk about
Speaker 1: this all day, everybody, you know that, right, So, Cody
Speaker 1: suffered a torn peck. It was known Saturday night. Helena
Speaker 1: Cell was Sunday and w w E announced the news
Speaker 1: on the pre show, and it was actually a really
Speaker 1: funny part of it. So they announced the news on
Speaker 1: the pre show and then later they have the announcers
Speaker 1: clear up the story and then tell you what the
Speaker 1: actual story was. It was. It was totally bizarre. They
Speaker 1: were like, uh, you know, the story is out that, uh,
Speaker 1: Cody was hurt in a brawl with seth Rawlins on
Speaker 1: Monday and Taurus Peck, but that's not true. Cody was
Speaker 1: injured but then tore his peck there like it was
Speaker 1: just it was weird. It was like, what anyway, So
Speaker 1: Cody torres Peck working out and uh, they acknowledged that
Speaker 1: and uh, and then they pushed that he was still
Speaker 1: going to do the show. And so Cody comes down
Speaker 1: to the ring and he's got his jacket on and
Speaker 1: you can already see before he even takes his jacket off,
Speaker 1: like the middle of his chest it's it's all purple.
Speaker 1: So he takes his jacket off, and uh, this bloke's
Speaker 1: got a torn pack. It's purple and blue all over
Speaker 1: his chest, down his arm. I mean, it's it's gruesome.
Speaker 1: And like for the first five minutes of the match,
Speaker 1: the crowd's almost in stunned silence, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: how's this guy doing this and why and uh, he
Speaker 1: does the match, and about you know, ten ten minutes in,
Speaker 1: you know, the fans start to realize, you know, his
Speaker 1: his arm hasn't fallen off yet, and they haven't stopped
Speaker 1: the match. I feel I can safely get into this now.
Speaker 1: And so they got into it, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: by the end, I mean torn pack or no torn Peck,
Speaker 1: they had a great match. And when you add the
Speaker 1: torn Peck story to it, I mean it was just
Speaker 1: I think the word dave Us was compelling and bro
Speaker 1: was it ever And this guy he won, and crowd
Speaker 1: goes nuts for him, and he's kissing the matt and
Speaker 1: he's crying and he's thanking the fans and and this
Speaker 1: dude just comes off as like the biggest baby face
Speaker 1: in the history of mankind. And you know, we talked
Speaker 1: about it on the show and everything like that, and
Speaker 1: then the blowback started. I turned the show off as
Speaker 1: soon as I heard one good thing about you guys
Speaker 1: said about Cody. We can't be glorifying and and uh,
Speaker 1: he this is a big one. He shouldn't have been
Speaker 1: in there. Okay, listen, as a fan and as a
Speaker 1: guy who likes Cody. I was grimacing the entire time.
Speaker 1: I was so worried about this guy. And uh, and
Speaker 1: obviously I did not think that he should have been
Speaker 1: in the ring with that torn peck. Okay, but as
Speaker 1: I noted yesterday, they have doctors in w W E,
Speaker 1: and no matter what you want to say, these doctors
Speaker 1: aren't jokes. Okay, these doctors if if they feel that
Speaker 1: it is a danger for you to get into the ring,
Speaker 1: they will not let you in the ring. They will
Speaker 1: not clear you. There was that incident where, uh, Brian
Speaker 1: Danielson got injured in a match with Triple H and
Speaker 1: they stopped the match and he Brian Danielson was furious.
Speaker 1: He was so mad he almost fought Triple H after
Speaker 1: the match, but they they stopped the match, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: let him do the match. They have retired people, they
Speaker 1: have they have permanently retired people. And I put that
Speaker 1: in quotes because some of them, like Paige are still
Speaker 1: permanently retired. Others like Edge and Daniel Bryan were permanently retired,
Speaker 1: but then you know they ended up being not retired.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, if you if you follow the
Speaker 1: Brian Danielson story, I mean, the w w E doctor
Speaker 1: was the last guy. He was the last holdout. Brian
Speaker 1: Danielson had gone to multiple doctors who were like, bro,
Speaker 1: you can do this again. You don't need to be
Speaker 1: permanently retired. And it was the w w E doctor
Speaker 1: that was the final holdout before he was finally allowed
Speaker 1: to come back into the ring. Okay, now I realize
Speaker 1: that we live in an age where there's an internet. Okay,
Speaker 1: And this accelerated during COVID. Everybody decided that they were
Speaker 1: a doctor. Okay, but you know what, most of you
Speaker 1: aren't doctors, all right, And the doctor in w w
Speaker 1: E decided that it was okay for Cody to go
Speaker 1: out there and do that match. Now there's another doctor.
Speaker 1: I've actually got his name, and uh, you can go
Speaker 1: up and watch his video on YouTube. His name is
Speaker 1: uh and of course it's not right here, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get in just a moment. His name is uh
Speaker 1: Dr Brian Sutterer, Okay, and he does this for a living.
Speaker 1: And he did a five minute video where he talked
Speaker 1: about the injury that Cody suffered and uh, the risks
Speaker 1: of going out there and uh. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: this video is is. Uh, it's out there and uh,
Speaker 1: I have already seen people cherry picking what they want
Speaker 1: to hear in his video because he actually was very
Speaker 1: balanced about it. But when you're balanced, then what happens
Speaker 1: is people can cherry pick what side they want to
Speaker 1: go with. Okay, and uh. And what he said was
Speaker 1: the pack was torn off the bone, and you can't
Speaker 1: tear it anymore off the bone. It's not like he's
Speaker 1: gonna go in there and do any more damage to
Speaker 1: the pack. Okay. He did say that, yes, obviously we
Speaker 1: when you have an injury like that, you can overcompensate
Speaker 1: with other parts of your body and suffer another injury.
Speaker 1: That can happen. But his conclusion at the end was
Speaker 1: that it was probably very painful for Cody. But anybody
Speaker 1: who is saying that, like a doctor, would be negligent
Speaker 1: to allow Cody to go into the ring. He does
Speaker 1: not feel that it was negligent to allow Cody to
Speaker 1: go back into the ring. So at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like dude, I don't think he should have
Speaker 1: been in the ring either. Okay, But the doctor in
Speaker 1: w w E and another doctor here both believed it
Speaker 1: was not negligent to allow Cody Rhodes to go into
Speaker 1: the ring. So I don't even know what we're arguing about.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter when you're non medical. Gut tells you Okay,
Speaker 1: the doctor believed that Cody could go into the ring
Speaker 1: and do this match. And then you know other people
Speaker 1: who were like, oh, well, this never happens in real sports.
Speaker 1: And then you know people pointed out that actually it
Speaker 1: does happen in real sports, and here are a bunch
Speaker 1: of examples. But bro, that's not even a fair comparison
Speaker 1: because wrestling isn't a real sport. Like the whole point
Speaker 1: of wrestling is to go in there and protect your opponent.
Speaker 1: That's the point. So Cody wasn't going into a real
Speaker 1: sporting event where seth Rawlins didn't care one way or
Speaker 1: the other whether his peck his torn. He's gonna beat
Speaker 1: the crap out of him or or in m m
Speaker 1: A he's gonna target an injury. They went in there
Speaker 1: with the idea to protect Cody Rhodes. That's the whole
Speaker 1: point of pro wrestling. So you can't even make a comparison. Well,
Speaker 1: oh you know, uh, the Super Bowl this year, this
Speaker 1: guy had a torn peck and he played, that's the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, it's real. So anyway, I I understand. I
Speaker 1: I think that he shouldn't have been in there. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the doc felt it
Speaker 1: was okay. Another doctor felt it was okay. So I
Speaker 1: don't even know why. This is like a big argument
Speaker 1: about the safety and negligence and everything like that. The
Speaker 1: actual medical professionals said it wasn't negligent to let him
Speaker 1: go in there, right, yeah. Well, the the visceral reaction
Speaker 1: to that, to how it looked, you know, especially for
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are not into sports, saw
Speaker 1: that and go, that's a torn pack. We're being told,
Speaker 1: it's for real, a torn pack. It looks like that.
Speaker 1: How in the rule can this person go out there?
Speaker 1: Because you can and it's not. And again, it looked
Speaker 1: a lot of people immediately it's toxic masculinity, it's meat headedness,
Speaker 1: it's it's dumb jock nous. It's like, no, it's it's
Speaker 1: actually not. If this person could go and perform, and
Speaker 1: the person he's working with felt comfortable, and a doctor said, look,
Speaker 1: the only thing you can do is if you can
Speaker 1: get through it, go ahead. And I'm and I'm used
Speaker 1: to that from the NFL in the NHL. So there's
Speaker 1: a there's a whole lot of things that could be true.
Speaker 1: Should w W E can you have to have the
Speaker 1: opinion that maybe they should have not let him go
Speaker 1: in there at all. Yes, is there's a lot of
Speaker 1: what ifs, and there's a lot of things that are
Speaker 1: frankly true about this, including the fact that he was
Speaker 1: cleared to buy a doctor and he was able to
Speaker 1: go out there and perform. And you don't know what
Speaker 1: Cody and w W talked about as far as paying
Speaker 1: for the surgery and all that stuff. So I know
Speaker 1: we're going to break. We'll be back back in a moment.
Speaker 1: Observer Live and the show. Brayn Elber is here Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer Live. Mike zumber Viv, also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. Well,
Speaker 1: thankfully we got another injury to talk about. What's up?
Speaker 1: Maybe thankfully it's not the right word. Well, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a little dark. Sam Punk has broken things. Excuse me, thanks,
Speaker 1: he broke some things. He broke some things. That's what
Speaker 1: we know for sure. It is believed that it's a
Speaker 1: broken foot, okay, but one way the other things are
Speaker 1: broken and so h well, that's a multiple. Did he
Speaker 1: break like? He said? Thing? So, do you know what
Speaker 1: a foot is. There's a bunch of bones in there.
Speaker 1: If you break three little bones in your foot, they
Speaker 1: still say you have a broken foot. He said things.
Speaker 1: So probably he broke a few bones in his foot,
Speaker 1: would be my guess. Fine, kill me. He got all
Speaker 1: choked up. Hey, if you keep this up, we'll go
Speaker 1: back to talking about Cody. Don't threaten me. So he
Speaker 1: came out on rampage and he announced that that he
Speaker 1: broke some things and that he had offered to relinquish
Speaker 1: the a W title, but Tony Conn told him no.
Speaker 1: And so this is what is going to happen. Sam
Speaker 1: Punk is gonna take time off to heal his things,
Speaker 1: and in the meantime, this coming Wednesday, there's going to
Speaker 1: be a Battle Royal on Dynamite. We don't know how
Speaker 1: many people, we know anything about it. There will be
Speaker 1: some people in a Battle Royal. Okay, whichever person wins
Speaker 1: will be having a match with John Moxley in the
Speaker 1: main event of Dynamite on Wednesday. That man is gonna
Speaker 1: go to Forbidden Door and face the winner of Hiroshi
Speaker 1: Tanahashi and Hiroki go too for the interim a W Championship. Okay,
Speaker 1: now what are they gonna do? I got no idea?
Speaker 1: What would I do? What do I think would be awesome?
Speaker 1: I think it would be awesome, so funny, say go
Speaker 1: to say go to No. I think it would be
Speaker 1: awesome if if John Moxley faced Hiroshi Tonahashi and Hiroshi
Speaker 1: Tanahashi beat him and became the a e W champion.
Speaker 1: Now let me give you my mindset here, Okay. So
Speaker 1: clearly the match they wanted to do was was CM
Speaker 1: Punk against Hiroshi Tanahashi. Okay, which actually was a match
Speaker 1: that I I had suggested before they announced it, because
Speaker 1: it has to be like a big new Japan name,
Speaker 1: but it also has to be a big new Japan
Speaker 1: name that they don't mind beating that guy, they don't
Speaker 1: mind that guy losing in an a W title match,
Speaker 1: and Tanashi's perfect. Okay. But before they announced this, the
Speaker 1: match that they have been building forever that everybody wants
Speaker 1: to see is John Moxley and Hiroshi Tanahashi. But they
Speaker 1: didn't do that on this show, and I was thinking why,
Speaker 1: And the answer may simply be that they wanted to
Speaker 1: do Punk versus Tanahashi and whatever. But you know, there
Speaker 1: was also that thought that, you know, maybe maybe New
Speaker 1: Japan what they want to do Tanahashi versus Moxley, but
Speaker 1: they want to be on a New Japan show and
Speaker 1: they want Tanahashi to win. So maybe that's why it's
Speaker 1: not happening on Forbidden Door maybe, you know. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of this is true. All
Speaker 1: I know is that originally it was going to be
Speaker 1: CM Punk defending the a W title against Hiroshi Tanahashi. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously the Monkey Wrench of Broken Things was thrown into
Speaker 1: the plan, So why not just have Tanahashi win the
Speaker 1: a W title and then two or three months from now,
Speaker 1: when CM Punk is is good to go, you do
Speaker 1: the match that you were planning to do the entire time,
Speaker 1: which was Punk versus Tanahashi, which presumably Punk was going
Speaker 1: to win, and Punk beats Tanahashi and he defies the
Speaker 1: a W and interim titles, and then away you go.
Speaker 1: Everything is exactly how you had it planned in June.
Speaker 1: You're just doing it in August instead. So that's what
Speaker 1: I do. But I'm not Tony Khan. If you've ever
Speaker 1: seen one of my press conferences, so we'll see what
Speaker 1: he ends up doing, and there's gonna be an education
Speaker 1: process which would need to happen if you went in
Speaker 1: that direction. And I actually like that direction, um because
Speaker 1: it adds, you know, from a pro wrestling point of view,
Speaker 1: and Tony CON's a big pro wrestling fan. You see
Speaker 1: how he modeled those Owen Heart belts after the Stampede belts,
Speaker 1: and he's a big belt mark and that stuff means
Speaker 1: something to him. You know. The fact that you can
Speaker 1: add to your lineage by having again one of even
Speaker 1: though there's some people out there who don't know him
Speaker 1: one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time, when
Speaker 1: it's certainly one of the best baby faces of all time, Hiroshitanahashi,
Speaker 1: who can still perform at a highly entertaining level and
Speaker 1: still have really good matches every once in a while.
Speaker 1: You can't do it on a regular base. Is but
Speaker 1: the fact that you can have that, I think is
Speaker 1: a great idea. Now, obviously he's not going to be
Speaker 1: able to you know, he can emote on as far
Speaker 1: as getting over on American TV because of the way
Speaker 1: he wrestles, because of his personality, because of his style
Speaker 1: is flash. You know, he's brothers in the Three Musketeers
Speaker 1: with Shabbata and since kay Nakamura and you saw Nakamara
Speaker 1: got over here Tanahashi, once people see him and take
Speaker 1: to him. I don't think there's gonna be a problem
Speaker 1: with the American fan base, but there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: little bit of education that has to go on. And
Speaker 1: this gives you a chance because you don't have a
Speaker 1: guy who's going to be cutting promos and taking up
Speaker 1: that time per se when it comes to, you know,
Speaker 1: a time on the show. It gives other people a
Speaker 1: chance to speak, and it gives you a chance to
Speaker 1: do some things with some other people. And that's what
Speaker 1: this Battle Royal could possibly do is lead to some
Speaker 1: new ideas and lead to some things that you can
Speaker 1: do coming out of this thing. And we don't know
Speaker 1: who's in it. We don't know how many people are
Speaker 1: in it, but one would assume the entire top ten,
Speaker 1: and then I guess a group you know, of ten
Speaker 1: extra people that you would have in there, because I
Speaker 1: assume it's not going to be everybody in like two
Speaker 1: rings or something like that doesn't make any sense. It
Speaker 1: cheapens it, so only have your best people out there,
Speaker 1: including Wardlow, who maybe gets screwed over by an Ethan
Speaker 1: pagro Scorpio Sky, which leads to him going after Sky
Speaker 1: for the the TNT title, which he is alluded to
Speaker 1: in an interview that again, that's fantasy booking, but there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that could come out of this.
Speaker 1: Bottom line is Tanahashi as a choice for Champion, I'm
Speaker 1: all for it. I also want to mention that there
Speaker 1: was a story and Business Insider by Claire Atkinson, and
Speaker 1: this from p w D Insider because the actual article
Speaker 1: was behind a paywall, and yes I pay for p
Speaker 1: W Insider, but not Business Insider. In the piece, it
Speaker 1: was noted that Stephanie McMahon's leave of absence, which was
Speaker 1: publicly described as McMahon taking a break to tend to
Speaker 1: her family, was actually quote executed by her father, Vince
Speaker 1: mcmah in the organization seventy six year old CEO. The
Speaker 1: article noted responsibilities that fell under Stephanie's umbrella included marketing, brand,
Speaker 1: business and creative services, along with community and entertainment relations.
Speaker 1: Company announced a new executive vice president head of Marketing today,
Speaker 1: Catherine Newman, noting and responsibility will include marketing, brand, community relations,
Speaker 1: entertainment relations, creative services, and photography, much in the same
Speaker 1: responsibilities McMahon had article noted, while Stephanie had described the
Speaker 1: potential of w w e's growth in sponsorship and marketing
Speaker 1: is having the potential to be in the quote hundreds
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars range, that wasn't happening under McMahon, Atkinson,
Speaker 1: citing a company source, reported, we are seeing that growth,
Speaker 1: said the company insider of Stephanie's tenure. When someone has
Speaker 1: moved out of a company, it is usually the result
Speaker 1: of something not working. We took stronger control of that
Speaker 1: a few months ago. Now the way this is UH raised,
Speaker 1: it sounds like Vince fired Stephanie McMahon. But I don't
Speaker 1: believe that that happened. And I think Dave's gonna have
Speaker 1: more on that here a little while. But I can
Speaker 1: tell you what is undoubtedly true. Okay, So Sephanie stepped
Speaker 1: away from her duties, all right, And it had been
Speaker 1: a long time coming. She had she had talked to
Speaker 1: people about stepping away from her duties, uh, dating back
Speaker 1: to when Triple H had is his hard issue. So
Speaker 1: this was this was coming for a while, okay, But
Speaker 1: the day that it happened, it was made very clear
Speaker 1: she is stepping away, She's going to spend time with
Speaker 1: her family. She will be back and in the meantime,
Speaker 1: her duties will be split amongst different people. Different people
Speaker 1: will be taking on a little bit extra, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna spread it out amongst a bunch of people. All right,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Well, then a little while later, a week
Speaker 1: or two, all of a sudden, like they were hiring
Speaker 1: people for her role. That's when I first got a
Speaker 1: red flag, like, huh, you're hiring people to take on
Speaker 1: what Stephanie used to do. And uh. And then in fact,
Speaker 1: as uh, as we talked about on some of the
Speaker 1: shows in in Vegas. Uh, you know, w w E
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, for some reason did a one
Speaker 1: eighty and they wanted word out that Stephanie was not
Speaker 1: very good at her job. Now what happened why, I
Speaker 1: have no idea, but clearly the folks that wanted the
Speaker 1: word out that Stephanie was not good at her job
Speaker 1: contacted Claire Atkinson here of Business Insider, and they in
Speaker 1: fact got the story out as well. So I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. I don't know if Stephanie will ever
Speaker 1: be back, but something happened and something changed, and uh
Speaker 1: and that's the latest as of right now. Do you
Speaker 1: know if Katherine is one of Victor's daughters from Genera City,
Speaker 1: who don't worry about that. Look, this place is now
Speaker 1: getting much much bigger. And I know we, especially old
Speaker 1: people like us, we've always had a McMahon family, whether
Speaker 1: it be Vince Sr. Giving the company to Vince Jr.
Speaker 1: And then seeing Shane and Stephanie come into it. Linda,
Speaker 1: you know, became a featured person. But we see where
Speaker 1: Nick Cohn has taken this company and we see some
Speaker 1: of the moves that they've made that you know, when
Speaker 1: they went with the network idea, then when they got
Speaker 1: rid of the people that started the network and went
Speaker 1: in the direction that they're going in. Now you see
Speaker 1: the deals that con has landed and it's like, maybe
Speaker 1: this thing is actually now at a level where, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's now out of their hands. This time may maybe
Speaker 1: do something else for everybody. And this is the way
Speaker 1: evolution happens in business. Back in a moment Observer Live, Well,
Speaker 1: we did have some shows this weekend, didn't we alright, So,
Speaker 1: if you've not seen it yet, watched the Young Bucks
Speaker 1: versus h Benton Phoenix match on Rampage. That match was
Speaker 1: better anything on the pay per view. It was so
Speaker 1: unbelievably awesome. So that was Friday. Uh, you can skip SmackDown,
Speaker 1: I give you permission, but if you want to hear
Speaker 1: the report, Tom and I are going to do the
Speaker 1: report on that as well as New Japan Strong coming
Speaker 1: up in h two o'clock Pacific five Eastern video on
Speaker 1: f W online dot com. And he's gonna talk a
Speaker 1: little g c W turnament to Survival to now Wrestling
Speaker 1: Up dot com as well. Well, did you see it?
Speaker 1: What do you want me do? Well? Was he was
Speaker 1: he wrestling for Black Label this weekend? I have no
Speaker 1: idea what he was doing. You should ask him that
Speaker 1: I was in quarantine. Noah's Man's schedule, your partner. We
Speaker 1: also had the n x T two point oh show,
Speaker 1: and uh, very quickly we had the Family Tony d'angelo's crew.
Speaker 1: They beat Legato del Fantasma, So now Legato del Fantasma
Speaker 1: will be uh gangsters. I guess match was pretty good
Speaker 1: all things considered, it's a pretty good match. I liked it.
Speaker 1: Toxic Attraction versus Katana Chance and Caden Carter not good.
Speaker 1: This was not a good match. In fact, it was
Speaker 1: pretty bad. Although I thought Caine Carter looked good and
Speaker 1: Catana Chance, come on, we know her name. Anyway, she's improved,
Speaker 1: and they were pretty good. But Toxic Attraction retained the
Speaker 1: tag team titles because you know, we gotta, we gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, if you keep trying. Eventually was eighteen tote
Speaker 1: year old males are going to tune in to see
Speaker 1: these women with almost no clothes on. We just got
Speaker 1: to keep trying. Yeah. Carmelo Hayes beat Cameron Grimes to
Speaker 1: win the n x T North American title was good match.
Speaker 1: This as good match as you would expect. Manny Rose
Speaker 1: beat Wendy Chew of course, to retain the n x
Speaker 1: T Women's title, and this was not good. It was
Speaker 1: pretty bad. The Creed Brothers beat pretty deadly. I like
Speaker 1: this match because you know what, I like these Creeds.
Speaker 1: I like these Creeds. Watching the Creed Brothers it's like
Speaker 1: watching UFC one a styles clash. You're afraid, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe someone could be killed, but thankfully no one does
Speaker 1: get killed. And uh, you just never know what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with these guys, and they're just they're like, they're
Speaker 1: like two nineteen ninety seven Goldbergs, just out there running rampant,
Speaker 1: and these these good word kers are trying to carry
Speaker 1: them and and they sort of can. I thought this
Speaker 1: was a fun match, and the Creeds one, and they
Speaker 1: won the NXT Tag team titles and for their parents,
Speaker 1: I like this this was get stuff. Do you remember
Speaker 1: the old Johnny Valentine Why a lot of people have
Speaker 1: used it where it's like I can't make you believe
Speaker 1: that wrestling is real, but I can, damn you sure
Speaker 1: make you believe that I'm real. Like there is almost
Speaker 1: nothing n x D two point oh can do to
Speaker 1: make me convinced that any of it is real and
Speaker 1: not just one big hallucinatory cartoon. But the Creeds, You'll
Speaker 1: never make me believe that they're not real. They are
Speaker 1: amazing puppies with big paus as Jr. Would always say,
Speaker 1: they are amazing athletes, and they are is if is
Speaker 1: close to one could come to actually what it was
Speaker 1: like being thrown around by the Steiners watching somebody do that.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what they are doing right now. And we
Speaker 1: had braun Breaker versus Joe Gacy, and uh, they gotta
Speaker 1: get this brawn breaker away from Joe Gacy like as
Speaker 1: soon as humanly possible. I'm gonna be losing money at
Speaker 1: this rate. My god, this has taken this guy from
Speaker 1: like the hottest prospect and all of w W E
Speaker 1: some bloke having average matches on pay per view. It's
Speaker 1: it's the worst. So the story was he can lose
Speaker 1: the title via d Q, so they tease that a
Speaker 1: couple of times, but he didn't anyone. Can we move on? Now?
Speaker 1: That's my review of n x T two point o
Speaker 1: in Your House And it was so bad because nobody
Speaker 1: believed that. So every time it was he would kick
Speaker 1: out it too, and then they would show a close
Speaker 1: up a brawn breaker and it's like he can't lose it,
Speaker 1: like okay, And then they did a bit with a
Speaker 1: chair about seventy five million times. The referee takes it
Speaker 1: away in slow motion, turns his back to walk away
Speaker 1: to put it's like, can you at least try if
Speaker 1: you're gonna like do this, at least try, And the
Speaker 1: guys tried. I mean, Joe Gazy is he's fine. It's
Speaker 1: just the gimmick is death, and this feud has been
Speaker 1: death and it hasn't helped Ron Breaker and it sucks
Speaker 1: and I wish it was over. Please person here saying
Speaker 1: Brian's gonna lose his bet because of Joe Gaycy. It's
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Casey is gonna cost me more money
Speaker 1: than MGF. No, he's not, he's not. Look once he
Speaker 1: breaks away from him, Look once anything happens with n XT,
Speaker 1: once he goes up to the main roster. That's really
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the bottom line, because
Speaker 1: there's only so much damage they can do for him
Speaker 1: in n x T as far as his whole career,
Speaker 1: which wasn't that what that was? The whole thing was
Speaker 1: about the ruin this guy. They'll ruin his w W career. Alright, Uh,
Speaker 1: he's not ruined, everybody. He's just in the middle of
Speaker 1: an absolutely boring, nothing happening, generic feud with a guy
Speaker 1: he needs to get away from. But no one's getting
Speaker 1: no one's watching it, going, Oh, this Broun sucks. Now
Speaker 1: everyone's saying, can he get a new opponent? It does
Speaker 1: get him ready for the main roster, It sure does.
Speaker 1: Speaking the main roster, money in the bank. Bianca beat
Speaker 1: Osca and Becky in a three way also, which was
Speaker 1: an excellent match, which of course led to you know,
Speaker 1: somebody having to go out of their way to start
Speaker 1: a threat on our board asking why poor Oscar is
Speaker 1: just being buried all the time. It's like the people
Speaker 1: who are anti Bianca that like crawled out of holes
Speaker 1: on Twitter last night. Just beat these people in the
Speaker 1: head with a shovel, put them back in there and
Speaker 1: make sure you pat it up and they can't get
Speaker 1: back out again. People are out of their minds. Like
Speaker 1: if you want to say that Charlotte Serena Dieve is
Speaker 1: a better technical wrestler, absolutely, you want to say that
Speaker 1: Oscar is under used in a person that, because of
Speaker 1: her experience in her style, is a far more valuable
Speaker 1: prospect if everything were to fall apart than somebody the
Speaker 1: age of Bianca bel Air. But look, bottom line is
Speaker 1: she is the biggest thing in women's wrestling outside of Japan.
Speaker 1: Barn On two. For for her to have picked up
Speaker 1: what she's picked up so far to be the athlete
Speaker 1: she is, to see how she comes across and to
Speaker 1: see like all those things that don't are in the
Speaker 1: ring like marketing potential and a spokesperson for the company
Speaker 1: and a role model and an influencer and all that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff like man, she is it. So I
Speaker 1: don't know why there are people that maybe they're just
Speaker 1: trying to be And I do remember when I was
Speaker 1: a wrestler and its Tim Flowers and say, hey, you
Speaker 1: know what, You're gonna headline the Temple Theater with me
Speaker 1: in a singles match for the i c W Championship,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna beat you, And I say, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I don't want to headline in a championship match. I
Speaker 1: don't want to headline the Temple Theater in the title match.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna lose, i'd I'd rather work Mr Sexy
Speaker 1: in the second match on the card so that I
Speaker 1: could win get out of there early. That Bobby Lashley
Speaker 1: beat omas An m v P and then he prayed
Speaker 1: around with the belt. So when you think about m
Speaker 1: v PS, uh rhymes, Oh dude was awesome. MVPs rap
Speaker 1: was like multiple is better than anything on Raw last week,
Speaker 1: anything on SmackDown and uh. In this match, Kevin Owens
Speaker 1: beat Ezekiel just pinned him clean in the middle we
Speaker 1: have not had the cameo by Elias yet, and you know,
Speaker 1: after this match is like, why is this few continuing
Speaker 1: to get to that? But I guess we'll see if
Speaker 1: if if they have any foresight whatsoever to take one
Speaker 1: guitar shot before they cut the guy's hair and shaved
Speaker 1: his beard. I I absolutely hope so. And much like
Speaker 1: when it comes to any anytime talking about Kevin Owens,
Speaker 1: there's always something that you don't see and you've got
Speaker 1: to go back online to see he does I guess
Speaker 1: the talking smack or whatever the post show is called
Speaker 1: afterwards and he talks about knowing back in the day
Speaker 1: when Rikishi became the Saltan and knowing that that's who
Speaker 1: that was. It's just it's a small, dumb thing, but
Speaker 1: it just that's what's making this few great for me,
Speaker 1: is Kevin Owens being a one man show. When it
Speaker 1: comes to having a field day with this stuff, it's
Speaker 1: it's great. We had the judgment day being a j
Speaker 1: Finnbellor and Live Morgan like this match, good match. Everybody
Speaker 1: worked hard, they got sixteen minutes and uh Edge got
Speaker 1: the win. I don't know where any of this leads,
Speaker 1: but that's what happened, So I liked it. Matt cab Moss,
Speaker 1: happy Corbin. So we had a we had an issue
Speaker 1: that played out in the main event, which was that
Speaker 1: they had a falls count anywhere match and w decided
Speaker 1: to go old school. Well, we're using a table in
Speaker 1: the main events, so we can't use one earlier in
Speaker 1: the show. But it's a it's a no holds barred match.
Speaker 1: The fans for how long did this match go? Twelve
Speaker 1: minute match? It was twelve oh five, So for twelve
Speaker 1: minutes and four seconds, the fans chanted for tables and
Speaker 1: they didn't get tables. And so finally in the main event,
Speaker 1: when he'll seth Rawlins, who's wrestling, you know, Cody Rhodes
Speaker 1: with his arm dangling from his side, seth Rawlins grabs
Speaker 1: the table and the fans have been waiting so long
Speaker 1: that they pop and they start thanking seth Rawlins for
Speaker 1: getting a table. Like, I know, there's rules, rules and everything,
Speaker 1: but bro, you should just give these guys tables. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It would have made things much better in
Speaker 1: the main event for people not cheering seth Rawlins. But anyway,
Speaker 1: they had hardcore match and then mad Cap pilmanized his
Speaker 1: neck with the steps in the chair one and uh
Speaker 1: and yeah he's got a new he's got a new
Speaker 1: look and everything, but he's still mad cap. That blows
Speaker 1: it absolutely stinks. Riddick Moss is his is a gimmick
Speaker 1: name anyway, but it sounds like a wrestler. Look at
Speaker 1: the guy, you go. That guy's name is Reddick Moss.
Speaker 1: You go, look at you. I believe that name. It
Speaker 1: fits who he is, not just that dude. But they're
Speaker 1: all into just one name, bro, Just call him Riddick.
Speaker 1: That's actually cool. His last name is like you know,
Speaker 1: something green that grows on a tree. You can get
Speaker 1: rid of a part. Just call him Riddick. It comes
Speaker 1: out there all jacked up, you know, like me h,
Speaker 1: he beats on people, doesn't tell stupid jokes, and they
Speaker 1: call him Rick. You know, he doesn't even here Vince
Speaker 1: saying it Rack. He should have shows Riddick instead of Theory,
Speaker 1: because man Theory had the most vanilla nothing happening. Bro,
Speaker 1: Maybe Riddick down the line can kill Theory and and
Speaker 1: and look, and it's nothing against Awston Theory because he's
Speaker 1: insanely talented. But he's been positioned as a geek that
Speaker 1: he's not getting over, and the specter of him defeating
Speaker 1: John Cena down the line bothers me and Riddick Moss
Speaker 1: has been I'm not saying he's been ready for a
Speaker 1: long time. He's one of those guys came from the NFL,
Speaker 1: went there. That's all he knows. But like the guy
Speaker 1: has been a physical wonder. We've talked about how underused
Speaker 1: he's been for a long time. Now is the time
Speaker 1: not to screw it up our twitch chat. Sometimes they're dumb,
Speaker 1: but sometimes I've got such great ideas. Like you know,
Speaker 1: if if Riddick came out with like you know, antlers
Speaker 1: like uh, you know, House of Black and they called
Speaker 1: him nick Moose Hey is finished? Could be the ridicules.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good ones here, all better then
Speaker 1: mad Cap. It's too bad that Happy Corbin has blocked
Speaker 1: you because he could take some of this stuff and
Speaker 1: actually apply it to him, still telling jokes. I guess
Speaker 1: to Riddick, if he gets out of traction with his
Speaker 1: neck and whatnot, let's see how long it takes for
Speaker 1: him to sell this well back in a week with
Speaker 1: nothing happening. So all he comes out, They say, Chicago's
Speaker 1: own Ali. Oh, here's his wife, children, friends, and then
Speaker 1: he got beat of course he did. And then Cody
Speaker 1: Rhoades beat seth Rawlins in the main event. Yes, if
Speaker 1: you didn't know, by the way, if if you've been
Speaker 1: listening to the show, Cody one, he hit him with
Speaker 1: a sledgehammer and he pinned him three and oh against
Speaker 1: seth Rawlings even with a torn pack. So they got
Speaker 1: plans for this guy's big return and eventual Devine title win.
Speaker 1: Come back to row rumble take four to six months anyway,
Speaker 1: it's out when it goes where a rum will would
Speaker 1: be perfect for something like that, especially if you don't
Speaker 1: have the rock. But even then, you've got multiple nights,
Speaker 1: perfect time to dring Cody back. Then, uh, when when
Speaker 1: it comes to like the short term though, like now,
Speaker 1: you've gotta figure some stuff out like quickly, including anything
Speaker 1: out They got hold on how you plan on rebuilding
Speaker 1: seth Rollins because I am interested now. He loses to
Speaker 1: Cody three times in a row. Did all the mind
Speaker 1: games they all failed. He's there with his banged up
Speaker 1: he loses to a guy with an arm falling off
Speaker 1: and a peck falling off. What do you got next?
Speaker 1: Sent bro? I love you, but dude, it's w w E.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make a bit of difference that he lost
Speaker 1: three straight matches to Cody. He's gonna come out here,
Speaker 1: he's gonna do his stupid laugh, he's gonna do his
Speaker 1: goofy dance, he's gonna cut a promo, and everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: forget all about it and move on to whatever's goofy
Speaker 1: feud is. We've seen this a million times, eternal sunshine
Speaker 1: of the spotless mind w W fans. I can't think
Speaker 1: of one w w E person that's pushed as a
Speaker 1: main of ventnor where anything happens to them, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the fans don't see them as a
Speaker 1: star anymore. This audience they're told he's a star, So
Speaker 1: he is, and they're like, yes, they have about two
Speaker 1: million really passionate people, and that's good for them, And
Speaker 1: so do we back at a moment is it alive?
Speaker 1: Hey Mike? How long did you test positive for UM?
Speaker 1: It was at least five days. I'm still positive today.
Speaker 1: How long has it been for you now? Uh? Five?
Speaker 1: I think hopefully five days? Hopefully that's it is. Everybody
Speaker 1: else in the house. Did I know I know someone
Speaker 1: who test positive for two months afterwards? Oh god, the
Speaker 1: long COVID Well, no, they were. They just tested positive,
Speaker 1: but they just like they got over it, but they
Speaker 1: kept testing positive for two months. Jesus so sucks. Don't
Speaker 1: get out of here. He's talking about herpies, you geek
Speaker 1: talking about COVID. Well, hey, you know Cody's gonna be
Speaker 1: on the show tonight. He didn't have gone, really does he?
Speaker 1: What Cody's gonna be talking about his torn peck and
Speaker 1: what it was. I forgot what it was, but we
Speaker 1: do know that he will be undergoing surgery for said
Speaker 1: torn peck on Thursday. That's when it's going to be happening,
Speaker 1: and they will film all that for the network, have
Speaker 1: a documentary someday. Brother. Let me tell you, dude, that's
Speaker 1: it's iconic that that will be there forever, much like
Speaker 1: his neck tattoo, that that bruise will live in either
Speaker 1: infamy or whatever you want to call it. We're at
Speaker 1: a time everybody got to wrap it up. In an hour,
Speaker 1: myself and Filthy Tom will be talking all this fun stuff.
Speaker 1: That'll be at two Pacific five Eastern Video Dot f
Speaker 1: w online dot com audio or Wrestling Observer dot com.
Speaker 1: Check that out later on and that's in everybody. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening. We'll talk to you again after a while.
Speaker 1: You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast
Speaker 1: on the eight Side Network