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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Nol.

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Speaker 3: They called me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you argue you are here.

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Speaker 4: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: If you are tuning into our strange news program The

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Speaker 4: Evening it publishes Welcome Friends and Neighbors to May twelfth,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. There's a lot of stuff going on.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to everybody's brand new AI fueled boyfriend or

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Speaker 4: girlfriend or what have you.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys hear about this?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: I saw Mark Zuckerberg awkwardly defending it.

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Speaker 6: That was about the span of it for me.

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Speaker 4: It's weird because maybe the four of us are functioning

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Speaker 4: in a bit of an editorial or experiential bubble. Because

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Speaker 4: I personally was not I knew this was a trend,

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Speaker 4: but I was not aware about how concerned parts of

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Speaker 4: society have become about this. We won't spend too much

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Speaker 4: time on it. But if you go to an excellent

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Speaker 4: Rolling Stone article by Miles Klee, which was published May fourth,

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Speaker 4: just a few days before we record on May seventh,

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Speaker 4: right now, you will see this. You'll see this in

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Speaker 4: depth examination of a problem people are having. This is

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Speaker 4: the headline. People are losing loved ones to AI fueled

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Speaker 4: spiritual fantasies. It reminds me a little bit of the

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Speaker 4: oh gosh, the technical luminati or the tech luminary who

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Speaker 4: left Google under bad terms because he believed that they

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Speaker 4: had created sentient AI and that he was in conversations

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Speaker 4: with it. Do you guys remember that story for sure?

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Speaker 4: I still I can't remember where we all as a

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Speaker 4: group landed on, whether or not or I think we

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Speaker 4: got back to the old, the old bag of badgers.

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Speaker 4: How does one define sentience in the first place.

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Speaker 5: To even define as a human? You know what it

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Speaker 5: means within our species. Results vary.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say your mileage may very well put. The

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Speaker 4: quick skinny is this. Multiple people over the past few years,

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Speaker 4: perhaps exacerbated by the COVID lockdown, feel that they have

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Speaker 4: lost their significant others or lost some level of emotional

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Speaker 4: or even physical intimacy as their partner increasingly pays more

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Speaker 4: attention to an AI bought a large language model that

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Speaker 4: continually sort of big ups them and is sycophantic and

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Speaker 4: tells them what they want to hear.

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Speaker 6: All our QAnon just saying.

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Speaker 3: Similarly, we all have to make conspiracy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I mean it just in terms of like

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Speaker 5: people being lonely and isolated and seeking something that they

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Speaker 5: And yeah, it's inevitable that we're going to have these

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Speaker 5: AI companions, but boy, oh boy, there's certain folks that

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Speaker 5: might go down a real dark rabbit hole. Have you

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Speaker 5: seen the movie Her? I actually haven't, and I have

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Speaker 5: been saving It's worth it. I know everyone loves it,

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Speaker 5: and I love the filmmaker obviously, just Spike Jones, but

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Speaker 5: I haven't seen that when I've been saving it, and

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Speaker 5: I think that's maybe it's a little less dystopian, but

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Speaker 5: I feel like it does get around to some stuff

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Speaker 5: about isolation and how this isn't a real relationship.

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Speaker 6: But maybe I'm wrong.

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, I mean I think you're on the money there. No,

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Speaker 4: it's no police academy for but it deals with a

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Speaker 4: lot of the sameless spits.

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Speaker 3: So we'll give oneline here.

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Speaker 4: This article introduces the concept of something called chat GPT

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Speaker 4: induced psychosis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The idea is that especially people are in a vulnerable

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Speaker 4: emotional state. You know, there's a reason, yes, men are

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Speaker 4: such a common troop that they can be put in

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't want to cast us versions at Miles

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Speaker 2: Klee and the folks over at Rolling Stone, but a

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Speaker 2: lot of the source material that they've got in this

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Speaker 2: worry that maybe the person writing on Reddit is exaggerating

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Speaker 3: Story because it's anecdotal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's no way to prove any of

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Speaker 6: You said, though I'm anecdotal.

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Speaker 5: Stuff in a properly researched piece or study is obviously valuable.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, without any kind of.

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Speaker 5: Barrier to entry for this kind of stuff in terms

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Speaker 4: Measured quantitative study over time. Right, that's what we would

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Speaker 4: ideally need, and I think that's an important point also, Matt,

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Speaker 4: for a hot second there, I thought you were going

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Speaker 4: to say, because these are anecdotal posts on Reddit informing

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Speaker 4: a significant piece of this article. Were those posts written

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Speaker 4: by chat gpt itself?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, how would you bias there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just crazy. Anybody could make up anything at

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Speaker 2: any time, right, And if you can't confirm who said

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Speaker 2: what when and then follow all of those lines down

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Speaker 2: to what actually happened, then it didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: The so called post truth environments, well, boy, at the

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Speaker 4: age of information.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we call it the age of information, but that's

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Speaker 4: kind of like again, the pursuit of happiness. No one

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Speaker 4: is called it the age of correct information, and they

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Speaker 4: haven't done that for some very good reasons. So be safe,

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Speaker 4: always treat things with a grain of salt until the

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Speaker 4: science is established. Going, we'd love to hear your thoughts

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Speaker 4: on that. If you are in love with what people

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Speaker 4: would call an AI bot, we want to hear your

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Speaker 4: anecdotes as well. We're going to get to so much stuff.

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Speaker 4: Here brews back in the conversation, Whoop whoop, And we're

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Speaker 4: going to talk about some rare earth stuff leading to

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Speaker 4: all too common chaos. There's a musical we're excited to

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Speaker 4: explore together with you. We're going to burn some trees,

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Speaker 4: and I am using that in the hip hop sense,

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Speaker 4: and we might journey to an underground city, but we'll

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Speaker 4: definitely talk about money before we do any of that.

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Speaker 5: And we've returned, and we're about to burn some trees

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Speaker 5: till our eyes get holier than Swiss cheese.

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Speaker 6: I didn't make that up, but as the Antipop Consortium,

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Speaker 5: It's an apt turn of phrase here talking about a

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Speaker 5: story out of turki A, how do you say it been?

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Speaker 5: Is that turky a turkey A? There you go, specifically

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Speaker 5: the Lice district of dr Bikir, where security forces apparently

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Speaker 5: burned twenty point seven tons of marrijauana cannabis in an

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Speaker 6: There is the massive.

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Speaker 5: Burn, which was done all at once, created a intoxicating

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Speaker 6: But here are kind of the facts as we have it.

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Speaker 5: On April eighteenth, when officials burned as twenty tons or

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Speaker 5: This was this was stuff that they'd confiscated over the

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Speaker 5: townflex dot com. The smell of drugs has been enveloping

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Speaker 5: the district for days. We cannot open our windows. Our

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Speaker 5: A smag alert we might call it around here. Remember

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Speaker 5: it was it you, Matt, that was talking about the

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Speaker 5: Man, somebody told that story and it sounded like something

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Speaker 5: you would have said, but maybe not. Anyway, That'll always

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Speaker 5: When I popped up this article and I'm seeing it

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Speaker 6: Thing that I swore was AI generated.

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Speaker 5: It is these like burning bales of whatever you know,

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Speaker 6: He had this to say.

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Speaker 5: This was perhaps done as a preventative measure to deter

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Speaker 5: destruction or burning of such herbs can also cause serious intoxication,

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Speaker 5: just as tobacco harms passive smokers when used in a

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Speaker 6: So that's yeah.

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Speaker 5: And then I'm seeing another side shot of the of

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Speaker 5: the fire that does look like the same environment that

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Speaker 2: I found one that looks like an official news source

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Speaker 2: out of the country, and yeah, all it's saying is

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Speaker 2: It doesn't say anything about anyone getting high, and it

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Speaker 2: feels like something that an Onion style article would write, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, amazing, it's exactly the same kind of thinking.

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Speaker 5: If unless you have anything to add, thanks for pulling

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Speaker 6: You know, new folk hero on trial for his life.

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Speaker 5: But it's just it's very funny, and I can see

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Speaker 5: Musicals are more than just sing cats and dancing candlesticks,

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Speaker 2: I think there's complexity there and if you've got smart

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fully agree, you can. I'm of the mind that

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Speaker 4: That's the reason some SNL works more, but it works

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Speaker 4: a couple of songs in a three acts structure that.

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Speaker 3: I'm on board. You know what I mean.

445
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Speaker 4: I don't even need to know who's in the cast,

446
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Speaker 4: just you know, keep it going with the music.

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Speaker 6: Paint drying the musical. It can be done well.

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Speaker 2: I think the book in the Book of Mormon is

449
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 2: the perfect example of that kind of thing, where it's like,

450
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Speaker 2: take a concept that is very complex, sounds boring a

451
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Speaker 2: little bit on the surface, and then you can write

452
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Speaker 2: some songs. As you said, Ben Boom.

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Speaker 4: There's a musical entirely about corn and there's a c

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Speaker 4: O RN which is a bit of a missed opportunity,

455
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Speaker 4: but you can see selections from that musical at their

456
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Speaker 4: tiny Desk concert. Well, i'd say watch the tidy desk

457
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Speaker 4: before you pody up for the increasingly expensive tickets.

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Speaker 6: It's true.

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Speaker 5: I just want to end with just saying that I

460
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Speaker 5: have re gained my love of musicals over the past

461
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Speaker 5: handful of years, and every time, most times I get

462
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Speaker 5: to go to New York, I try to catch something,

463
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Speaker 5: and I've seen some really wonderful stuff lately.

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Speaker 6: And I'm just I'm all in. So this is right

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Speaker 6: up my street.

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Speaker 5: I just want to end with this last part of

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Speaker 5: the statement, which I think sums everything we've said up nicely.

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Speaker 6: We do not condone violence from the.

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Speaker 5: Creators, sexual assault, or pedophilia in any form. This musical

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Speaker 5: effect serves as a critique of these men and the

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Speaker 5: institutions that enabled them. Our characters reflect three institutions of

472
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Speaker 5: modern disillusionment, healthcare, tech, and Hollywood. Each represents a pillar

473
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Speaker 5: of American life where public trust has eroded and where

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Speaker 5: people increasingly feel betrayed, exploited, or abandoned. By placing these

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Speaker 5: forces in one absurd prison cell, we're offering a mirror

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Speaker 5: to our moment. Can't be surreal and funny, but also

477
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Speaker 5: emotionally honest, right in line with what you.

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Speaker 6: Were saying, Matt, the zeitgeist of it all. I'm on

479
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Speaker 6: board the musical. Sign me up.

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Speaker 5: Let's take a quick break here, a word from our sponsor,

481
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Speaker 5: and then we'll come back with more strange news.

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Speaker 2: And we've returned. Guys, we are jumping to a concept

483
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Speaker 2: that we have hammered home so many times on this show. War.

484
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Speaker 2: What is it good for controlling the land above natural

485
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Speaker 2: resource deposits?

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Speaker 6: Okay, I think that's why it, Matt, But I appreciate

487
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Speaker 6: the effort. No, okay, No, it's great, dude, give you

488
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Speaker 6: a hard time.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it a lot. When you go to

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Speaker 2: war in ancient times, when you go to war, you

491
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Speaker 2: control territory, right, You control border lands and areas that

492
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Speaker 2: are easier or harder to cross to get into your territory.

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Speaker 2: And as especially as industrialization began, you control territory because

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Speaker 2: there's stuff in the ground underneath the border.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: That's it, full stop. And the reason why big countries

497
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Speaker 2: go to war to control stuff, if it's not part

498
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Speaker 2: of some bigger ideological thing, it's probably because there's good

499
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Speaker 2: stuff in them lands and you got to get it out. Uh, well,

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Speaker 2: we got some news for you, comes to us from

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Speaker 2: Andrew Roth at the Guardian. On May first, US and

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Speaker 2: Ukraine signed minerals deal that solidifies investment in Kiev's defense

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Speaker 2: against Russia. So what does that mean?

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Speaker 5: This is the thing that was the big kerfuffle in

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Speaker 5: that really bad meeting at the White House, well a series,

506
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Speaker 5: but the public one where like basically, you know, they've

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Speaker 5: shamed him very bad. What's his name, sorry, the presidency

508
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Speaker 5: ka Zelenski. It was you know, more or less humiliated

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Speaker 5: on public television.

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Speaker 6: And it was about that.

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Speaker 2: That was part of it. That was part of the

512
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Speaker 2: art of the deal, if you will, if you say,

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Speaker 2: it's a publicly humiliate guy into making him capitulate to

514
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Speaker 2: the ridiculous rules that are set out in the deal

515
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Speaker 2: that you initially slide across the table that they did

516
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Speaker 2: not compet relate to that. What came out of all

517
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Speaker 2: of that stuff post Vatican, you know, trip for both

518
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Speaker 2: Trump and the leader of Ukraine and you know, hanging

519
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: out at the funeral of the Pope and all of

520
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Speaker 2: the other stuff, there is now a new deal that

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Speaker 2: is officially signed by all parties. And here's here's why.

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Speaker 2: It's important. Ukraine holds around five percent of the world's

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Speaker 2: mineral resources and rare earth metals, but many of those

524
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Speaker 2: deposits have yet to be explored. So actually sending teams

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Speaker 2: out there to drill down a little bit to figure

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Speaker 2: out exactly how much of said resource is in that place,

527
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Speaker 2: you know, due to the scans that are done by

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Speaker 2: these large private companies to figure out where actual minerals are.

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Speaker 2: A ton of those resources haven't They haven't even been started,

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Speaker 2: right if you imagine a big mining operation or something

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Speaker 2: like that. They're just sitting out there in the land.

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Speaker 2: So this deal, this huge deal that has been signed

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Speaker 2: between the United States and Ukraine to quote share profits

534
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Speaker 2: and royalties from the quote future sale of Ukrainian minerals

535
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Speaker 2: and rare earths is a big deal. It means that

536
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Speaker 2: the US is going to start to get its money

537
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Speaker 2: back that it has been spending on, what do we say,

538
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Speaker 2: bolstering the defense that that Ukraine has against the invasion

539
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Speaker 2: of Russia, sure to the tune of one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy five billion dollars. Yeah, and allegedly this money is

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Speaker 2: going to be repaid basically on a fifty to fifty basis.

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Speaker 2: So for every dollar, let's say, of resources that's extracted,

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Speaker 2: the United States gets fifty cents of that, and then

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Speaker 2: Ukraine gets fifty cents of that. They also say that

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Speaker 2: the United States and Ukraine are going to share fifty

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Speaker 2: to fifty responsibility for this new fund that is being created.

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Speaker 2: It's a like it's called the US Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund,

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Speaker 2: which sounds lovely. And this is just this weird thing,

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Speaker 2: you guys of the United States providing support or any

550
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: country providing support for another country, right, and then eventually

551
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: somebody comes along and says, hey, we're gonna need you

552
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Speaker 2: to pay a little bit of that back. You know,

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Speaker 2: actually all of it, maybe with some interest. We did

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Speaker 2: help you out in a time of need. So how

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Speaker 2: about them resources.

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Speaker 6: Let's get at them, let me at them.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it is because a country that is

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Speaker 2: at war can't just sit there and pay a bunch

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Speaker 2: of money back to somebody who's helping them out. But

560
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Speaker 2: what they can do is sign agreements for future repayment.

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Speaker 2: Something the United States.

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Speaker 3: Did lend lease for instance.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. It's something that every country has, well not

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Speaker 2: every country and that's been at war has done. But

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Speaker 2: many countries who find themselves in that state of active

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Speaker 2: war have done that, requested aid and then sign something

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Speaker 2: for future repayments.

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Speaker 6: Of signing away your future as a country.

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Speaker 3: In some ways.

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Speaker 4: In other ways, it may not be a hard resource,

571
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Speaker 4: but it could be something like membership in a regional group.

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Speaker 4: It could also be things like other economic concessions, like

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Speaker 4: we will allow insert corporation here to act in the

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Speaker 4: following way. You know, that's a that's a snake that

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Speaker 4: can bite you back, because sometimes not all the time,

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Speaker 4: but sometimes those countries, those companies end up functioning like

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Speaker 4: state powers within those countries that had to open their door.

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Speaker 5: Does it not seem like since this went down that

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Speaker 5: Trump softened his position a little bit on like you know,

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Speaker 5: the selective truth of Ukraine started the war, you know,

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Speaker 5: and he seems a little less outwardly pro putin, like

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Speaker 5: now that he's gotten what he wanted, does it maybe

583
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Speaker 5: seem like maybe a lot of that rhetoric was just

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Speaker 5: a bargaining tactic or like a way of applying pressure

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Speaker 5: like it once did he present them a bill I'm

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Speaker 5: just wanting like that's all I'm a going back, yeah,

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Speaker 5: going back to my other linguistic note, which I think

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Speaker 5: is apropos here.

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Speaker 4: The art of the deal never promises the art of

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Speaker 4: the good deal. It's just like, here's the wack of

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Speaker 4: do stuff I say here. You know here, we've talked

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Speaker 4: about the strategy before. It's it's not unique to your

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Speaker 4: to your point, Nol, I think it is objective for

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Speaker 4: us to acknowledge that this quid pro quo kind of

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Speaker 4: stuff occurs, as Matt was saying, throughout history.

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 4: Always maybe this blatant or this public. And there are

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Speaker 4: a ton of factors following into that. The idea of

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Speaker 4: softening the stance could come from any number of other

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Speaker 4: intervening variables. But I am fairly certain this plays some

601
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Speaker 4: sort of role. I think the more under the surface here,

602
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Speaker 4: but this plays some sort of role. And we can

603
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Speaker 4: see this even in little like light work stuff. The

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Speaker 4: map that from the Guardian article you shared there, Matt,

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Speaker 4: You'll will notice if you scroll down there's a bevy

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Speaker 4: of different precious minerals, rare earth, and then just you know,

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Speaker 4: cool stuff that it's nice for a country to have,

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Speaker 4: and some of the stuff that is mapped out, and

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Speaker 4: maybe part of this deal is technically controlled by Russia

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly exactly, and this investment would provide an economic

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Speaker 2: incentive for the US to continue investment in Ukraine's defense

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Speaker 2: and reconstruction. And the thought there, I believe that maybe

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be stated outwardly, is that hopefully we get control

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Speaker 2: of all of those resources and not just the ones

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Speaker 2: that Ukraine currently controls.

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Speaker 4: Right, and then the idea also be I mean, it's inescapable.

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Speaker 4: We have to mention the badger in the bag here

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Speaker 4: as tensions rise with China, which has vast control over

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Speaker 4: a lot of very important minerals that are key to.

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Speaker 3: Every industry.

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Speaker 4: Right, as China and the US have these tensions rising,

623
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Speaker 4: the US desperately needs to find alternative sourcing for stuff

624
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Speaker 4: that will continue to keep the war machine rolling.

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Speaker 2: Yep yup, yup, yup. And as Ukraine's first Deputy Prime

626
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Speaker 2: Minister sciri Enko excuse me said, it is quote the

627
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Speaker 2: Ukrainian state that determines where and what to extract at

628
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Speaker 2: all times. So Ukraine's feeling good about the partnership, the

629
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Speaker 2: US is feeling good, like great probably about the partnership.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see where this goes. But guys, we got

631
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Speaker 2: to move forward to Kentucky. Something very very important has

632
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: happened in Florida to a Kentucky man. Okay, a gentleman

633
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: at the cool age of fifty, mister James Farthing won

634
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Speaker 2: the dang powerball. You guys, holy crap. Nicely it was

635
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Speaker 2: at an estimated one hundred and sixty seven million dollars bail.

636
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Speaker 2: That's lovely, Come on, you won the lottery. Let's go.

637
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Speaker 2: But as we've talked about, the lottery is a fickle thing.

638
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Strings right, the lottery is a strange thing. Your luck

639
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: is tremendous in one moment. What happens if it if

640
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: it pivots back the other way so rapidly that your

641
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: neck breaks. Well, on Monday, April twenty eighth, mister Jim,

642
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: mister James Farthing went and collected the money, or he

643
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: signed the paperwork to collect all of the money. And

644
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: he began his journey as a now one hundred and

645
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Speaker 2: sixty twelve let's say, one hundred millionaire, almost maybe around.

646
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Speaker 6: That much after you take all all the taxes and everything.

647
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 2: Then on Wednesday, April thirtieth, this this, this poor man

648
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Speaker 2: was arrested on charges of battery of a law enforcement officer.

649
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: Battery and resisting an officer without violence isn't that interesting

650
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: without violence? But he also battered an officer, but he

651
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: did it without violence somehow, just the thought that, well, no,

652
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: he got into a fight with somebody at this place

653
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Speaker 2: called Island Grand at Trade Winds in Saint Pete Beach, Florida,

654
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Speaker 2: and then as he was in this fight, several people

655
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Speaker 2: came to try and break it up. Some of them

656
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Speaker 2: were from the Panelas County Police Department or I guess, yeah,

657
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Speaker 2: they were deputies, so maybe it was a sheriff's department.

658
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Speaker 2: But he ended up kicking one of them in the

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Speaker 2: face as he was just having this little altercation with

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Speaker 2: another person. He tried to flee, but he got booked

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Speaker 2: into jail right after winning one hundred and sixty seven

662
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Speaker 2: million dollars. Damn, just to say luck can change, right?

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Speaker 2: What is luck? Is there?

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Speaker 6: Luck?

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Speaker 2: Who knows? And we're just talking about all this stuff

666
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: because it does feel as though you can be extremely

667
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Speaker 2: lucky in one moment and feel at the top of

668
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Speaker 2: the world, and youthing could come crashing down because of

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Speaker 2: one small decision and or you know, one small set

670
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Speaker 2: of circumstances, everything crashes down.

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Speaker 6: It is possible.

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Speaker 2: Right to our next story from The Independent. I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to read the title here because I feel like

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Speaker 2: every time you use the word Trump in a title

675
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Speaker 2: of something and you instead of saying the president or

676
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: President Trump or something like that, it puts in your

677
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: head a negative image of whatever is coming next, because

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00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: it is the term Trump is thrown around as a

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00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: pejorative itself, right in a weird way.

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Speaker 4: Well, supporters also, I mean I would say it's divisive.

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Speaker 2: Right yeah, because supporters be like, oh, Trump did this new.

682
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Speaker 2: But then if somebody reads that who supports the president,

683
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Speaker 2: they are like, ah, they just dang people, just dang

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Speaker 2: whoever writing about the president. So it's an interesting thing.

685
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Speaker 2: So let's just say the President to eliminate one thy

686
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Speaker 2: two hundred CIA positions within larger plan to shrink spy workforce.

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Speaker 2: According to a report this comes to us again from

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Speaker 2: The Independent. It is the concept that around five percent

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Speaker 2: of the CIA's staff will be laid out as a

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Speaker 2: part of a much larger set of cuts to the

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Speaker 2: intelligent services sector within the US. And this is all

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Speaker 2: coming down from the executive branch of the United States government.

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Speaker 2: It is only interesting to me because you know, five

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Speaker 2: percent of any workforce it's meaningful to the human beings

695
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Speaker 2: there is it truly meaningful to the overall operations of

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Speaker 2: a large behemoth, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean at scales.

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Speaker 4: Imagine if someone asked you to lose five percent of

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Speaker 4: your blood sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but which wouldn't be that bad, would it?

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Speaker 2: Five percent? Yeah, we can handle five percent, let's go,

702
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: you know, but five percent of your family. Hey, we

703
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: got to take five percent of your family away, and

704
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: probably represents one human being. That would be like, oh, whoops,

705
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: we got to It would have to equate to at

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Speaker 2: least one human being or half of someone in your family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Neither of our analogies here are are I guess they're

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Speaker 4: not factoring in that the five percent is not the

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Speaker 4: department itself, the CIA itself, the agency. Not everybody has

711
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Speaker 4: the same job, right. So the argument for fans of

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Speaker 4: I guess cost cutting as this would be portrayed by supporters.

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Speaker 4: They would say, you know, look, we're cutting the fat.

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Speaker 4: We're not getting rid of anything important to your point, right,

715
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Speaker 4: We're firing or we're letting, we're causing redundancies for like

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Speaker 4: the three assistant accountants.

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Speaker 2: Were right sizing. That's what we're doing. We're right sizing this.

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Speaker 3: Putty and just truing up.

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Speaker 6: We're truing up, yes here, but it.

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Speaker 2: Is an interesting place to make cuts. The CIA, you know,

721
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Speaker 2: is looked at in a lot of different ways, but

722
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Speaker 2: by a lot of people in the in the national

723
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Speaker 2: security realms see them as a much necessary thing.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: We need to know what others are doing outside the

726
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Speaker 2: US so we can know what to do from both

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Speaker 2: a public policy you know stance and you know, a

728
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Speaker 2: diplomatic stance, and a where do the tanks go? Since

729
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: seems pretty important. It's kind of weird. It's really weird

730
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Speaker 2: when you take into account the last story I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be talking about today, which is the concept of

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Speaker 2: reopening Alcatraz prison. This just came forward. CBS News reported

733
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Speaker 2: on it, a bunch of places reported on it. It's

734
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Speaker 2: just it seems as though it's a concept or an

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Speaker 2: idea that kind of sprung forth, I don't know, guys,

736
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Speaker 2: out of another thought or something, and then all of

737
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Speaker 2: a sudden it is supposed to happen the city. United

738
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Speaker 2: States President had the concept, Hey, we should reopen Alcatraz.

739
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Speaker 2: It is a symbol of law and order. We reopen

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Speaker 2: this baby. We put our most ruthless and violent people

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Speaker 2: back on Alcatraz, and the world we'll see that we

742
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Speaker 2: mean business when it comes to justice and law and

743
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Speaker 2: order and all of that stuff. The only thing is

744
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: have to think about this. It costs around three times

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Speaker 2: the amount of money to run Alcatraz as a prison

746
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Speaker 2: as it does any other What do we call those prisons, guys,

747
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Speaker 2: the ones that are extremely tough to get in and

748
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Speaker 2: out of max supermax. Yeah, like a super.

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Speaker 5: Well, that is Alcatraz, but it is it is rock, yes,

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Speaker 5: of course, but it is just like a run like

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Speaker 5: a museum right now it says where people can take

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Speaker 5: tours to do.

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Speaker 6: What he's asking is a tall order just for a

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Speaker 6: lot of books. And it has been into existence.

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Speaker 2: It has been for a long time. It was a

756
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Speaker 2: disciplinary barracks for the US military for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Then it became a prison only until nineteen sixty three.

758
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Speaker 2: Then it was not a prison after that and it

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Speaker 2: hasn't been since then. We talked about it during the

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Speaker 2: time when it was occupied by what was the name

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Speaker 2: of that group, the Red Power Movement.

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Speaker 4: There's a coalition from a Native people move Yes, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: American Indian movement.

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Speaker 2: But that was literally a couple of years. Then after

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Speaker 2: that it's just been a place where people go and

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Speaker 2: revel in the concept that was Alcatraz and how crazy

767
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Speaker 2: was this? How weird is it that this was a

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Speaker 2: prison for a long time.

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Speaker 5: You can take a pleasure cruise just past it too,

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Speaker 5: in the San Francisco Harmer Like, it's a really cool

771
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Speaker 5: thing to see lurking off in the distance amidst the

772
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Speaker 5: fog and all of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a big piece of history and culture as well.

774
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Speaker 4: And if you want to read the statement in full,

775
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: you can find excerpts of it in various media platforms

776
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: of choice. You can also, if you are so inclined,

777
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Speaker 4: just go to truth Social and read his statement in

778
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 4: full about it. Critics are saying that critics are accusing

779
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Speaker 4: the president of having watched a film and saying that

780
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Speaker 4: that is what informed his new decision, which seems to

781
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Speaker 4: to the public to have come out of the blue.

782
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Speaker 3: Relatively speaking.

783
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Speaker 5: I've certainly never been accused of watching a film, So

784
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Speaker 5: my heart goes out to the man.

785
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Speaker 2: No. Well, but again, all in my mind, all that

786
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: matters is that it costs three times what it costs

787
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Speaker 2: to run any other prison because it's a dang islands,

788
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Speaker 2: because you've got to ship everything out there. It doesn't

789
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Speaker 2: have working water, it doesn't have working sewer as it

790
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: stands right now. Good luck to anybody who wants to

791
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Speaker 2: rebuild that thing. If you are gonna put that kind

792
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Speaker 2: of expense from a federal budget into you know, doing

793
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Speaker 2: that kind of thing. What does it say to all

794
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Speaker 2: of those spies, excuse me, a CIA personnel that you're

795
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Speaker 2: just firing, And how does that make them feel? And

796
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Speaker 2: we know that China, Russia and several other countries that

797
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 2: oppose the United States are looking for disaffected, specifically spies

798
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Speaker 2: to work with, So seems like a crazy.

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Speaker 6: Plenty good pipeline for that.

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Speaker 2: Seems like a dumb move to me. All right, that's

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Speaker 2: all for the segment. We'll be right back after a

802
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Speaker 2: word from our.

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Speaker 3: Sponsor, and we have returned.

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Speaker 4: We're going to move quickly through some things at the

805
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Speaker 4: last part of our weekly Strange News segment. Here first

806
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: to get in front of the communicates and the emails. Folks,

807
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: there's often a misconception about the CIA. When we said

808
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: not everybody does the same job in this gargantuan agency,

809
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: and it is pretty big. We have to remember that

810
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Speaker 4: the CIA provides a lot of analyst work that is

811
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Speaker 4: mission critical to many other agencies and not spoopy doup agencies,

812
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: not tradecraft folks. But you know, there's somebody's job to

813
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Speaker 4: keep track of up and coming politicians in the Philippines

814
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Speaker 4: or in Nepal, build a biography and a dossier on them.

815
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Speaker 4: The CIA World Factbook is not perfect, and it has

816
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Speaker 4: an angle, but it's one of the best go to

817
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Speaker 4: places for international information. Right you want to learn more

818
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: about a country, start there. And with that, the argument

819
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Speaker 4: is that hutting the CIA would essentially be cutting one's

820
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Speaker 4: nose despite one's face, you know what I mean with

821
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Speaker 4: knock on consequences. So there are a lot of questions

822
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Speaker 4: about money. We'd love to hear your thoughts in this regard.

823
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Speaker 4: There's something I think would serve as a follow up

824
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Speaker 4: to some episodes we've done in the past.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 4: Not too long ago, a former Bush official went public

827
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Speaker 4: and claimed that the US has built a twenty one

828
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Speaker 4: trillion dollar underground network only for the wealthy to hide

829
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Speaker 4: out during a near extinction event. Have you guys heard

830
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Speaker 4: about this sounds like fun? Do either have ping pong?

831
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Speaker 3: I hope? So?

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Speaker 4: I mean for twenty one trillion dollars, they better have

833
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Speaker 4: good being.

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Speaker 2: Who said? Who said this?

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Speaker 4: This is Catherine Austin Fitz, who worked under the first

836
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Speaker 4: Bush administration. You can find I think a good reputable

837
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Speaker 4: article on this comes from The Endependent on May fifth.

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Speaker 4: Now I was a little bit weirded out at first

839
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Speaker 4: because this statement was on the Tucker Carlson Show, which

840
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Speaker 4: I know is not everybody's slice the case India. But

841
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Speaker 4: looking into this stuff, it does seem that Fitz knows

842
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Speaker 4: what she's talking about. As the assistant sect of Housing

843
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Speaker 4: in Urban Development under H. W. Bush, she was following

844
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Speaker 4: money right and they It seems that with a little

845
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Speaker 4: bit of forensic accounting. If you go to a twenty

846
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Speaker 4: seventeen report by an economist at Michigan State University, Mark Skidmore,

847
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 4: you'll see Skidmore, you'll see that unauthorized spending to the

848
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Speaker 4: tune of twenty one trillion, largely untraceable dollars occur between

849
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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight and twenty fifteen, which means, adjusting for

850
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Speaker 4: radical inflation, that's more than twenty one trillion.

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Speaker 5: Now mad money. It's imagine what even how do you

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Speaker 5: even quantify? I mean, I guess that's literally what you're doing,

853
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Speaker 5: but an amount like that, I cannot wrap my head

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Speaker 5: around it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and fits claims quote we have built an extraordinary

856
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Speaker 4: number of underground bases and supposedly transportation systems end quote

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Speaker 4: including she claims bases beneath the ocean, so real like

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Speaker 4: Sequest stuff. If anybody remembers the show Sequest.

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Speaker 2: China is currently building a giant under sea yes thing.

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Speaker 2: I can't find the thing I was we were going

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Speaker 2: to talk about it. It was from February, right, a

862
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Speaker 2: six thousand foot below the surface deep sea space station.

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Speaker 5: Didn't we do an episode on undersea bunkers and facilities?

864
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Speaker 5: Or maybe it was Arctic like underneath the ice just

865
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Speaker 5: ringing a bell?

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Speaker 3: You're right, you're right.

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Speaker 4: Well we've done We've done some stuff on undersea structures

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Speaker 4: which are not as sci fi as they may sound

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Speaker 4: at first. Blush. We look to your point about Arctic structures,

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Speaker 4: hidden Arctic structures on both sides.

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Speaker 6: Of the facilities potentially.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we also know that.

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Speaker 4: I think this is an episode in the future because

874
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Speaker 4: lest we be too dismissive of this story. It's important

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Speaker 4: to remember that there have been proven cases of the

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Speaker 4: government conspiring to build things like that, like the not Briarcliff.

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Speaker 4: That's a street here with its own weird history. But oh,

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Speaker 4: who was it we talked to, We talked to the

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Speaker 4: guy Garrett Graff, who wrote the book on perhaps so

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Speaker 4: it is called Greenbrier.

881
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Speaker 3: But for a long time, this thing.

882
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: That appeared to be just an okay, run in the

883
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 4: mill hotel was actually one of those hardened sites for

884
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Speaker 4: high level government officials and their families to survive a

885
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 4: nuclear event. So it's not evil that these things are

886
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 4: being built. And there's a real philosophical dilemma about you know,

887
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 4: the public, as taxpayers, what they do or do not

888
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 4: deserve to be aware of, right with how their money

889
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 4: is spent. But then also if they go if the

890
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Speaker 4: government goes public and says, yes, thank you for your

891
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: tax money, we're building these here, here, here, and here.

892
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 4: This is the latitude and longitude. By the way, this

893
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: is where the power in the water comes from. Let's

894
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Speaker 4: hope none of our enemies know how to use Wikipedia.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, right too?

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Speaker 6: Well, Okay, again long lines building. By the way, it

897
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Speaker 6: just keeps. I don't know, that is my quintessential.

898
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Speaker 5: Like rich people bunker very like you know, high level

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Speaker 5: government officials bunker.

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Speaker 2: When was George H.

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Speaker 3: Choe Bush in office eighty nine to ninety three.

902
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he was the forty first before that, he

903
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: was CIA. That's right, So let's forget So theoretically, guys,

904
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Speaker 2: theoretically over thirty years of secret bunkers could have been

905
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: hanging out doing things or like as they're building them

906
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: over all of those years, right all the way up

907
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Speaker 2: to twenty fifteen that we talked about in that report.

908
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking if they did ever create some kind of

909
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: underwater secret places, it might account for the weird stuff

910
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: coming out of the water that the Navy keeps shooting

911
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Speaker 2: video of.

912
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Speaker 6: Right, I don't think I know what you're talking about, Matt.

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Speaker 3: Unidentified some merged objects or trans.

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Speaker 5: Medium opts, of course, things that go from from flight

915
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Speaker 5: to under the water in like a very alarmingly fast

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Speaker 5: or just.

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Speaker 3: Staying under the water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Such that people have all kinds of all kinds of instrumentation,

920
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 4: and the smartest people with the most sophisticated toys are

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Speaker 4: saying what is this.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and if that kind of tech and ability

923
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Speaker 2: to build under the water like that has been around

924
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: since then, you can only imagine what literally off the

925
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Speaker 2: books R and D is going on.

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Speaker 6: You're totally wrong.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And speaking of off the books in R and D.

928
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Speaker 4: To get back to this, because I do think again

929
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Speaker 4: it's it's a good, good inspiration for an episode. The

930
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: report that Skidmore looks at, he's not, you know, he

931
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Speaker 4: is not, by any any measure means a wing nut.

932
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Speaker 4: He is an economist. He's doing forensic accounting. And his report,

933
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 4: which again looks through, looks through a lot of stuff.

934
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Speaker 4: He finds that the army had six point five trillion

935
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Speaker 4: just in twenty fifteen of something called quote unsupported adjustments,

936
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Speaker 4: which means money was spent and it went somewhere and

937
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: it was not accounting. It was not supported, means it

938
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Speaker 4: was not like allocated to a specific program.

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Speaker 6: That sounds like cooking the books to me.

940
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Speaker 3: It sure does.

941
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Speaker 4: Given the uh this is another quote from the report.

942
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Speaker 4: Given the armies one hundred and twenty two billion dollar budget,

943
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Speaker 4: this means unsupported adjustments, we're fifty four times spending authorized

944
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: by Congress, which is insane. Yes, I think that is

945
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 4: the appropriate word here. So if you've been to one

946
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: of these underground or undersea bases, we want to hear

947
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 4: from you. And yes, the cool cheese cave in Missouri

948
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 4: counts right as you were in Timvere Pallas, right right, Yeah,

949
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: we'd love to hear that. We're not going to get

950
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 4: to everything today, but we are going to give a

951
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: few more teasers here. We can't leave you without a

952
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: dope beat to Step two, especially folks who have who

953
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: are Step two who are also super into astronomy. It

954
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 4: turns out caveat Asterisk maybe that astronomers may have spotted

955
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 4: a possible planet nine and they've done this usingta that

956
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 4: spans more than two decades.

957
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: What is planet X nebrew?

958
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 5: This is like it meant to be an inhabitable planet

959
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 5: potentially or just like a new planet.

960
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: No, just like what the hell elliptical orbit is this

961
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: thing on?

962
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, a planet that is tied to ag and

963
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: stuff like mind calendars.

964
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Speaker 3: Astronomy.

965
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Speaker 6: Wow. So okay, Yeah, if we.

966
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Speaker 4: Go to tech Spot with the journalist Sky Jacobs from

967
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: just a few days ago May fifth, twenty twenty five. Again,

968
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Speaker 4: we're recording on the seventh, what we see is that

969
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 4: there's a newly identified object that has been spotted into

970
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 4: infrared sky surveys that may be the most significant evidence

971
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 4: ever for the elusive thing referred to as Planet nine.

972
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: This would be.

973
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 4: Object, a heavenly object about the size of Neptune, orbiting

974
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 4: hundreds of times further from farther excuse me, from the

975
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 4: Sun than from Earth.

976
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 5: So how do you explain them it being recorded that

977
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 5: far back? Like is it a difference in the way

978
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 5: bodies are viewed, or like a change over time? Like

979
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 5: how would they have been able to see that? Are

980
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 5: you saying that the prediction of it was almost mystical.

981
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 4: We're tying it, perhaps of a tongue in cheek to ancient,

982
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: ancient belief systems and thoughts.

983
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 3: I mean it is it is technically.

984
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: Possible that there could be some massive elliptical orbit, right

985
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 4: so that over time brings it brings this body, if

986
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: it exists, closer to Planet Earth and what humans could

987
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 4: observe in the sky at that time. But it's also

988
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 4: possible that it's not an elliptical orbit or not, you know,

989
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 4: radically elliptical, so it's just out there in a long circle. Yea,

990
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 4: and we only know about it because every so often

991
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 4: we a little on the infrared.

992
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: Well, guys, I can't remember fully I remember Stitching. I

993
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: can't remembers Stitch. He's the guy that wrote the stuff

994
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: that we talked about in our video series A long

995
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 2: time ago. He in like the I want to say

996
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: seventies or eighties, came forward and said, Hey, there's this

997
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: other thing that these ancient peoples wrote about. It was

998
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: his translation though, right of the ancient writings that basically said, Hey,

999
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: this thing called Nibberu is out there and it spells

1000
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 2: doom for.

1001
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 5: Earth, right because it's heading towards us or something like

1002
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 5: The idea that Stitch it has is that, yeah, when

1003
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 5: this thing returns, when it gets close enough, something about

1004
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 5: its spiritual importance or something secular like just its mass

1005
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 5: will create an extinction event.

1006
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 4: Sort of like how theoretically the right kind of fart

1007
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 4: from the sign of coronal mass ejection could send humanity

1008
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: back to the sarcase.

1009
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 5: It's because of the trajectory of that ellipse that like

1010
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: at the end of it, when we catch it, it's

1011
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 5: almost like an exponential curve that would like launch it

1012
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 5: or something I'm sorry.

1013
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's interesting, yeah, because that's similar to like

1014
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: how comets have predictable point.

1015
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 6: And I'm wondering. It's just my mind is running wild

1016
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 6: with this one. This is great, fascinating and terrifying.

1017
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: I love this.

1018
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 4: And here's here's what we'll end with. This is when

1019
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 4: we say, when we say twenty three years of data,

1020
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: what we're really looking at are too phenomenal or mission

1021
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: critical gatherings that are separated by twenty.

1022
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: Three years each.

1023
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 4: So there are two observations that are for sure something

1024
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: out there in the ink, and the fact that they

1025
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: happen from two different things, from NASA's Iris Infrared Astronomical

1026
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: satellite in launching in what eighty three, nineteen eighty three

1027
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 4: and Japan's Akari satellite which was active from like two

1028
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: thousand and six to twenty eleven. The fact that they

1029
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 4: found this kind of stuff that they went back and

1030
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 4: looked for the data from the NASA satellite. This is

1031
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 4: what makes things really interesting. How strange, how fascinating would

1032
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: it be if astronomers I'm sure hate to hear us

1033
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 4: say this stuff just hypothetically, folks. How fascinating would it

1034
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 4: be if some of those ancient predictions about this mysterious

1035
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 4: other planet did have some sand to them.

1036
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: I think.

1037
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 6: I think it's amazing.

1038
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: I think it would be.

1039
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: So it's what we need right now as a civilization.

1040
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 4: We also need to talk about the two hundred and

1041
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 4: fifty federal investigations tied to the online network seven sixty four.

1042
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 3: Do not read that unless you have a strong stomach.

1043
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 5: That may be something that like unaliving, coercion kind of

1044
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 5: ring with the rest satanic.

1045
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, using blackmail, sexual violent.

1046
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 6: Behavior, heinous. I remember when we talked about that originally.

1047
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 4: And we don't We don't have time to get into

1048
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: it now, but perhaps that'll be a strange news program

1049
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: in the future, maybe next week. We also want to

1050
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 4: shout out Credit sweee for again getting fined in helping

1051
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 4: wealthy Americans hide over four billion dollars US credit Sweeze. Yeah,

1052
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 4: they got fined though, so it's okay, all right, they

1053
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 4: did get fined less than four billion dollars, but they

1054
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 4: did get fined.

1055
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 5: And they're still Sweeze and there's still Sweeze to their credit.

1056
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: Uh, So we are going to call it an evening tonight.

1057
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 4: We're off to doctivigate. Thank you, as always so much

1058
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,240
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1059
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,560
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1060
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1061
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1062
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