1 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: So do you have a boyfriend or are you just dating? 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to pry and I you don't 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: have to tell me anything. I just want to know 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: about dating at our age and what your experience has 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: been online all of it. 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: I'm dating. 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: Uh So I did have a boyfriend recently, Yeah, I 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: mean we've dated for a while, we've dated over a year. 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: We dated, but I am dating now. 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: But you're still dating that guy too? 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Off and on? 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: Does he And are you cagey because you just want 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: to keep it private or he wants to keep a 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: private because of what's gone on the guy you're dating, 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: you're obviously No. 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: He's very public now. He wants to be very public. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: He doesn't have anything, he doesn't mind being public. You 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: are keeping it on a round No. I just think that, 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: first of all, I've never dated before. I'm very much 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: a relationship person. I've literally all my life gone from 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: one relationship to another, and this is my first time 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: ever really dating. Really, I've been in a relationship for 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: twenty five years with Greg, and he was my husband, 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: so he wasn't my boyfriend. And I met this guy, 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: I liked him. I just think that we're not right 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: for each other. 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: Where did you meet him? 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: We met at a place in Atlanta. 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: So are you so it's a different world of dating. 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Are you open to online dating? 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm scared, but I'm open. 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: And the reason why I say I'm scared is because 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: the like, do I get to see him first? 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Because the blind day thing, I can't. I can see him. 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I want to. But would they look like 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: their picture? 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: They look like they the best they'll look is their 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: worst picture. 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: I mean, I would be open. 40 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: It's really good, is it? 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Because that would be all like. 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: You know how we were here, so we were both young. 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: I just don't know that I would want my pitch 44 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: to be like floating around like so people publicly online 45 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: will be like, oh, Nini's on this dating. 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: Site, but you gotta by the way. Okay, So a 47 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: couple of things. First of all, Nani and I are 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: both like, we don't like a lot of for play 49 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: and work. We're like, all right, it's all great, the 50 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: smart let's get going. So we like to get going. 51 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: So the thing about online dating, and I was one 52 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: of the last to go. I had a girl tell me, 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, I can't do that. And 54 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: I felt exposed. And I used to go on when 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: I started and then scurry out because when someone knew 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: who I was and they would make a reference, be like, well, 57 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm not rich because they think that I need to 58 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: be with someone rich, I would then feel like they 59 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: knew everything about me. They thought they knew everything about me, 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: and I knew nothing about them. So I felt like 61 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: it wasn't a level playing field. But what I ended 62 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: up really liking about it is that it's very efficient. 63 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: So it's like online shopping. You don't have to go 64 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: into the store and you don't have to come home 65 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: empty handed like you are online shopping. And what's interesting 66 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: about it is you'll get a guy that you're talking to, 67 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: and like they'll say things to you that you would 68 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: normally not say in a first date, like what are 69 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: you really looking for? Or do you want a real 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: relationship because they don't want to waste time. They want 71 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: to know. Ultimately, are you here to get laid? Are 72 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: you here to get fed? Or are you here to 73 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: get married? They want to know. And so in that case, 74 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: it's like you can go into the store knowing exactly 75 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: what you want, how tall you you could be like, 76 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: I am not dating someone who's shorter than five eleven. 77 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: That's my rule. I stand by it, and you're not 78 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: breaking it. You could be like, I'm not dating someone 79 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: that's not Jewish. I'm you know, like you really get 80 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: to like choose, and it's like going into a bar. 81 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: If you went into a bar and someone saw you 82 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: and knows your needy and you they're nobody like that 83 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: you've never heard of, it's still not eleven playing field, 84 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: and you still have to feel weird. So you can 85 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: like cyberstalk them and go onto other apps and see 86 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: what they are doing on Instagram. 87 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: And stuff like I'm not against it. Marriage for me 88 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: is don't have to ever get married again. I've been 89 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: married at me, no way. If it happened, it would 90 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: just happen. It would be anything that I'm looking for 91 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: at all. But I definitely want a good relationship. 92 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: I think. 93 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 3: And you have to be emotionally available to date me, 94 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: because these guys are not emotionally available, honey, And that. 95 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: Is a problem. 96 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: Well, you have to be emotionally available to online date. 97 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: First of all, A lot of those people are going 98 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: to be there for different reasons and just want to 99 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: get later or get bored. But that's like a bar too, 100 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: and that is a bad rap because if you're a 101 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: good shopper, which I was, there's great stuff in there, 102 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: but it's like going to Tjmax, I have. 103 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: To shop for me. 104 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah I will, I'm really good. 105 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: You picture out there. 106 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: I had my picture out there and it didn't really 107 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: get out that much, and I thought that was interesting. 108 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: But somebody would be like, oh, I think I saw 109 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: that the on Bumble, and I would cringe and get 110 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: uncomfortable because you feel like. 111 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: You're losing I do. 112 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: Everybody's doing it. It's like saying online shopping, Oh my god, 113 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: everybody's doing it. 114 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: But if I got on Bumble, I mean, what level 115 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: are these men? 116 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: No? You would no, I know know all the men. 117 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. The same men are on Rayah 118 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: that are on Bumble, that are on Exclusive have matchmakers 119 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: because when somebody wants to First of all, very successful 120 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: and smart businessmen think about it, how are they going 121 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: to be successful? They don't have the time to screw around, 122 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: like twenty five year olds going to a bar and 123 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: like having seven shots. They're working, so they're very efficient. 124 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: It's a very business minded thing. To do because you're efficient. 125 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: I like young a little younger too, and a little younger. 126 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: You get so great. Put it on the menu. You 127 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: get to online shop, you could put your filters, sort 128 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: your filters, and there are little ways on different apps 129 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: to like get a different crop of men like you 130 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: can and you get full. You don't want to, like 131 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: eat too much of the buffet and flip through too 132 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: many because then you just get nauseated and you want 133 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: to like back up. But I was at Kathy Hilton's 134 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: house a couple of years ago when I was online 135 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: dating several years ago, and there were some major women. 136 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: There's some major people there, as you imagine, and girls 137 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: who like are well known people. They were all like, 138 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: of course, of course i'm online data. 139 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: But were they public figures where people were looking like 140 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: oh my gosh. 141 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: Yes, they were public, but not as forward facing as you. 142 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: But like, yes, someone could look up that they were 143 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: a socialite or they have a successful blog enough that 144 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: they too. Would you think they wouldn't be online? I've 145 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: seen you've never seen on riya. I saw ben Affleck really, 146 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: uh huh? I saw oh ya, yeah, that thing. 147 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: I did try that thing when my husband first passed 148 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 3: and it's never called me back or whatever. 149 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: Never. 150 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: No, No, Rio's not for you. Riot's for people in 151 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: skull caps with tattoos doing yoga poses in bali and 152 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: women in bikinis that are drink like drinking asai or 153 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: macha and like it's very that really yeah, and it's 154 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: a lot of very like producery, very Williamsburg like flannel. 155 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm very cool. 156 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: My girlfriend someone there ryah. 157 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but they're all Raya's just Raya's like Barney's 158 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: where it's mostly was mostly high quality, but often you 159 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: go in there and you're like, I know it's all expensive, 160 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: but there's nothing I really want to buy here. 161 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I get that, you know what I'm saying. 162 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you may not want like and then Mace 163 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: bumbles more like Macy's, Like there are some really high 164 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: end brands in there, but you gotta weed through a 165 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. 166 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: I see. That is scary, it. 167 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: Is, but you find some good stuff I've seen. 168 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: And how were you able to go on a date 169 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: when people didn't fan out, Like, oh my god, I'm 170 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: want a date with bathing me ticks one of my buddies. 171 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Because I found I mean I met Paul online dating. 172 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm saying, but you dated someone like you 173 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: went on one of those dates before you. 174 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: Got with him. 175 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: Yes. And my other thing was, if you're gonna get listen, 176 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: you're going to spend an hour and twenty minute you 177 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: do back to backs. You got to meet a couple 178 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: of people. You don't want to make them too close 179 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: to each other, so it could be awkward. But you 180 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: gotta like you're you're you're for the day. You're staying 181 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: at a hotel in New York or something, and you 182 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: have work and you're there, like you're having drinks there. 183 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: Then you're going across the street. You got to be efficient. Yeah, 184 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: we'll see if you're leaving the house. 185 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: I would like to be hooked up. 186 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Wait, so what's your type? You have to have a type. 187 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: My type is definitely tall, dark. 188 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: And handsome, Tall, dark and handsome. 189 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: With a fat pocket. 190 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: With a fat pocket, Listen, that's what I'm saying. You 191 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: go in there and if you know that you're not 192 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: messing with broke, then don't mess it broke. Like you 193 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: go into the store online, you go to a bar, 194 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: you have no way of knowing. You need to be 195 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: like show me your w two. 196 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: No, I won't be doing that at a bar. 197 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they bring it with them a 198 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: bar is meaning yeah. 199 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: I know they don't. 200 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: You got it? You got it online day, That's what 201 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: I think. 202 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would like to be hooked up and yeah, 203 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: I would like to be hooked up with someone, like 204 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: for someone to call me up and be like, Nini, 205 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: my dad is single and he's successful, he's gorgeous and 206 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: he's been married. Because I like the guy that's had 207 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 3: a relation along relationship ship before guy. Yeah, well there's 208 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: there's you guys that have not Oh I dated this 209 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: girl for four years and that broke up, and I 210 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: dated this one for two that some of these guys 211 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: who they're moving around. So I would rather someone called 212 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: me up or emailed me, by the way, Bookmini at 213 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: gmail dot com. 214 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: Book Nini at gmail dot com. I'm working for you. 215 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: I've been. 216 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: I've been. 217 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: It's it's important to say that I'm so flattered that 218 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: Nini and Alvin, who works with her, who's here, asked 219 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: me to be her christ Jenna. I am so honored 220 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: and humbled, and I really have to say, you could 221 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: do it. I could do it. I've been I've been 222 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: doing a decent job. Yeah, I've been doing dipping my toe. 223 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: You can do it, you know, in addition to parenting, 224 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: doing relief work and running my business. 225 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: You have to do is have a good talent, and 226 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: I am back beyond and so you can do it. 227 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm Niani's I mean you can take just like Chris 228 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I definitely can. I definitely can. It's 229 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: funny because people often think, like, I'm not a billionaire. 230 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: I don't. 231 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: I haven't ever had the aspirations to work as hard 232 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: as they all work collectively. Like I really like time 233 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: with my daughter. I really like downtime. I like you 234 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: like traveling, I as much as I like working. I 235 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: like working too, but I like relaxing too. I like 236 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: a balance. I generally do like a balance. I really 237 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: think at our age, the older you get, you really 238 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: start to value your health so much more. And I 239 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: don't want it to be all about the grind and 240 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: being on planes all the time and dehydrated. So I like, 241 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: I you're not going to bury all your money with you. 242 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: So I think I think money's good, But I'm I'm not. 243 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm not like I don't have that voracious hunger where 244 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: it's money driven, If that makes sense. I'm addicted to 245 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: the idea. What's the age age range for you? 246 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: Well, my last boyfriend was in his forties and that's okay. Yeah, 247 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: I would say forty five up. 248 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: And so what give me the last three dates you've 249 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: gone on? Where did you go? What did you do? 250 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: What was it like the last three dates? 251 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you said you're dating, Well, I mean I'm what 252 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: is a dating meeting for a drink? What's a date? 253 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: Dinner? Okay, dinner and cocktails. That's a nice date. That's 254 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: a beautiful date. 255 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you have you taken it to the next 256 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: level where you're cooking for someone or you're eating your 257 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: home or no. 258 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: No, no, I will not be I do know how 259 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: to cook very well, but that won't happen very soon. 260 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: Agreed. Yeah, I agree? Okay, And also probably won't even 261 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: come over for a while. And you're an empty nester now, 262 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: so you get to travel whatever you want. You could 263 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: date anywhere, would you live anywhere? 264 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 3: Depending upon I would be bicosed, So I'm not against that. 265 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: But I will always have a home in the in 266 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 3: Atlanta area. That's where my family. 267 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: Is, and I think we've made it clear that you 268 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: will not. You may find some the love of your life, 269 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: you may have a committed partner. You will not be 270 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: getting legally married again. 271 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: If it happened, I'm not against it, but I'm definitely 272 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: out here looking for I want to get married. 273 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: No, if it just happens, it just happens. 274 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 3: If that's something that me and this person just, you know, decide, 275 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: we just want to get married. But I feel like 276 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: you can have a life partner and get the same 277 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 3: thing out of it, right, one. 278 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Hundred No partnership, Yeah, well, I think that that's what 279 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: I was telling those girls at that dinner that with 280 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: the fairy tale, they don't realize. I believe at our age, 281 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: like love, partnership, loyalty and peace is an amazing relationship. 282 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: At that age, it was the chemistry. And you know, 283 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: not that I have chemistry with Paul. We've been together 284 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: five years, but we also have divorces, we have kids, 285 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: we have businesses. Like it's not as sexy as it 286 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: used to be, yes, but I find like peace and 287 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: love and like depth and loyalty that to be that's 288 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: the new sexy when you're in your fifties. 289 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: In my opinion, yes, yeah, very much. 290 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: And you had that with Greg. 291 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: Yes, but Greg and I were married, I know. 292 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: But I'm saying you were married for so many years, 293 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure it got boring. 294 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: I don't know that it got boring. 295 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: I mean there were times when we did have a 296 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: period where we didn't see eye to eye, But in 297 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: our later years together, I had a whole new love 298 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: and respect for Greg. Like and one thing about Greg 299 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: and I, and this this gives me all jacked up, 300 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: is that Greg and I dated every week. And that 301 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: was not a planned That was not a plan. It 302 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: was not on the schedule. It just happened for us 303 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: like that. Because he would maybe call me up and say, hey, 304 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: I haven't had lunch. 305 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: Have you eaten yet? 306 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 3: And I said, no, Well won't you meet me down 307 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: the street that you know, it could be a little 308 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: neighborhood spot, you know, the tacos stand, and let's grab 309 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 3: a couple of tacos and then I have a meeting 310 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 3: coming up at six or five or something, and we 311 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 3: would just naturally get together like that, and. 312 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: It could be dinner. 313 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: He said, I'm not cooking, and he said, okay, let's 314 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: just go so and so on the neighborhood and grab something. 315 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 3: And then there were dates that we plan, like Friday night, 316 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: we're going out with our other friends and dad. But 317 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: Greg and I always dated. And the other thing is 318 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: that Greg and I was always from day one to 319 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: the last day. We were always attracted to each other. 320 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Wow, and you're both social creatures. Yeah, see, I'm Paul 321 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: and I are both not social creatures. So it's harder 322 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: because somebody has to pull somebody out to go out 323 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: if you get stale, like you both don't really want 324 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: to go, but we're both a little bit. Like last night, 325 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: that dinner was very out of character for me. I burst, 326 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm out, I burst, and it's like I get activated 327 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: because I'm home a lot. And so then when we're together, 328 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: we're kind of nesting and it has to be like, 329 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: let's go do something. But it's often just the two 330 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: of us, so it's not like we're going out with 331 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,479 Speaker 1: a bunch of different people. And it's also fabulous. 332 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: So that's why you have to really like your partners. 333 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: So oftentimes it was just me and Greg, and then 334 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: the person I was just dating, it was always just 335 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: he and I, and so for the weekend. We're like, 336 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: what are we doing for the weekend. It's like nothing, 337 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: So let's just go to freaking let's just go to 338 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: London for the weekend. 339 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: And we would just literally go like that. 340 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: We're good at doing the trips and that stuff and 341 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: then getting dipped out every night and having an experience 342 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: that we're very good at. Yeah, though I like that too, 343 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: Paul is very good with that. It's being home that 344 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: sometimes we get into a right and it could even 345 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: be where I'm like, let's go on a nature walk, 346 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: let's go to the beach, like just to do something 347 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: different than the normal, because a lot of times because 348 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: of my work, then I'm like recovering. I'm here and 349 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm bursting with you, and I'm bursting last night and 350 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: I haven't appeared. So then I get home and we're 351 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: just sort of like watching TV and recovering, and I 352 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: want to make that time. 353 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: It's nice. 354 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: It's nice too. It's a great nesting space, but I 355 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: need more about We talk about it a lot that 356 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: we need more balance there in a little more action, 357 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: you know. And I don't know, did you used to 358 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: bring to Greg to all your work things? 359 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: Because I did bring him to a lot of work things, 360 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: and then I think we kind of had a good 361 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: balance on that too. If he had something he had 362 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: to do, he didn't come. And you know, I do 363 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: some things on my own. And even with my boyfriend, 364 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: I was bringing him with me to work. And that's 365 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: because I don't travel with a large circle of people. 366 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: I don't have like a giant team. I'm not that 367 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: girl with everybody. My circle is very small, and I 368 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: want to be with people that I know, that I 369 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: can trust in, people who I feel really have my back, 370 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: and so my circle is small and I want to 371 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: you know, I just wanted my man to be there 372 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: with me. And my husband was like that too, And 373 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: there's times when I traveled alone or travel without him. 374 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, because I feel like with business events, 375 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: I work well alone because I'm working a room and 376 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: I have goal. 377 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,239 Speaker 3: Well, that has kind of happened with me and my boyfriend. 378 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: That might Yeah, the guy was dating. I kind of 379 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: felt like, not with Greg, but with him, it's best 380 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: if I go to work without him. I wait, yeah, 381 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: it's something about it didn't work for because. 382 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: You're thinking in your life, you're self conscious about what 383 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: he's thinking. 384 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: Of that, and I needed to be you. 385 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: Know, I need to be in a good place when 386 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm at work. I need to be able to give 387 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: my all presentence. Yeah, and I felt like with him, 388 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: I couldn't do that. 389 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: I totally That's what I'm saying. Like, you're working and 390 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: you don't mind being alone. You would work a room alone? Yeah, 391 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: I just do. I'm a good alone worker in that regard. 392 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: You feel that you would have been with Greg till 393 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: the end had he not gotten sick. 394 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, because like Jada in will Greg. 395 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 3: And I, you know, this is our second marriage together 396 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: and we just said we're not gonna get a divorce, 397 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 3: work it out. 398 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: Well that's what they said too. I remember you we would. 399 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: Never have lived in two different. 400 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: Homes, right, Yeah. Well anyway, I love the Jada and 401 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: Willard what's defining our whole conversation. But it's so true 402 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: because years ago they said, like, divorce is not an option. 403 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: But I think there are many different reasons why people 404 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: choose that. I think finances is a lot of it. 405 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: It's college people, you know. 406 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then just getting older. 407 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: I think, you know, people are afraid to divorce and 408 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: be single, and you need somebody to have take care 409 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: of you. Just being alone very interesting. 410 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: There are many different reasons like yours. One of your 411 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: sons was from a previous marriage, and Greg. 412 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: Treated my previous relationship in that man. 413 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: Previous relationship, and Greg treated him like his son of course. Okay, 414 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: so that's a big thing too. That was a big 415 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: thing that attracted you to Greg the way he was. 416 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: My son was little then, now me dating the guy. 417 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: My my sons are young men. They they will have 418 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: their opinions. They would tell me about it. And of 419 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: course the guy needs to be very kind and respectful 420 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: to my kids. But it's a little bit different now 421 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: that they're adult. 422 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: What do you think of your kids? Two kids? Had 423 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: any grandkids? 424 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: Three? 425 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: So both kids have kids? Okay, so you have. 426 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: So well, my youngest son doesn't want any children. 427 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: So your other son has three kids, and what do 428 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: you think of his parenting style? Their parenting style compared. 429 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 3: To yours quite different. I was young when I had 430 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: my oldest child, and he was young when he had 431 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: his kids as well. I just think the younger generation, 432 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 3: the the millennials, are just quite different. 433 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: Do you well, what is it do you like ever? 434 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Butt heads as a mother in law about you don't 435 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: get involved in parenting at all. 436 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: I don't. 437 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: Only early on I remember having my granddaughter and I 438 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 3: think they were telling me that she can't eat this, 439 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: or she can't have some things I don't know, some 440 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: sweets or some something, and and I said to them, 441 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: you know, well, when she's at my house, I am 442 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: the grandmother. So well, we're eating popsicles and everything we 443 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: want to eat over here, and you guys have to 444 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: worry about her stomach hurting when you get back home. 445 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: You know. 446 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: Grandparents are for Yeah, like, I am not saying those rules, 447 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: and I can't handle it. 448 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: No. 449 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: Yes, And so I tell my son all the time, 450 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 3: we are creating memories. So when I have them, they 451 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: do whatever I want them to do. So I was 452 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 3: able to raise you guys, you're you're okay, so they'll 453 00:19:59,160 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: be fine. 454 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: And how often do you have them? 455 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: I get them. 456 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: I try to get them for big trips. We do 457 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 3: about three trips a year together. So I get them 458 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: doing spring break time. 459 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: Wow. I get them in the summer for a couple 460 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: of weeks. 461 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: We always go out to the beach or somewhere and 462 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 3: hang out. They love it. They love it and I'll 463 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: get them over. 464 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: The Christmas holiday with your son che or it's just 465 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: you and the kid. 466 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: No, this is. 467 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: What they're like, dropping them off, like bye bye bye. 468 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: What did I call you? 469 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: Glama? 470 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: Glama? 471 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: That's really yeah. Yeah they're good. I love them. They're 472 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: night work.