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Speaker 1: straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Monday,

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Speaker 1: June twenty seven. Hope everybody had a great phenomenal weekend.

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Speaker 1: I will just say NBA over, NBA Draft over. I

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Speaker 1: barely turned on the TV to watch sports all weekend.

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Speaker 1: It was so joyous, it felt awesome. Went to the

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Speaker 1: We had our hoops league games Sunday night that I'll

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Speaker 1: get to. And then of course I recorded a really

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Speaker 1: fun interview with Jake Fisher of Bleacher Report. He is

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Speaker 1: the guy who got into it with Draymond Green during

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Speaker 1: one of the postgame press conferences during the Finals. He

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Speaker 1: wrote a book on tanking in the NBA, so we

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Speaker 1: brought him on before this time. We're kind of jumping

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Speaker 1: into the NBA free agency potential chaos of later this week.

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Speaker 1: The NBA kind of the free agency deadline is creeping

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of Kyrie Kevin Durant stuff

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Speaker 1: coming up, and Jake Fisher helps us break it down. Um,

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Speaker 1: before I get to I think the biggest story in

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Speaker 1: briefly talk to you about my Wreck League game on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. I know there's a massive interest in our league.

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Speaker 1: We are a fairly dominant team. We thought we were

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Speaker 1: That's lock. Anyways, we faced a team today and for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, you know, we had a slow start. We

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Speaker 1: we didn't have our big guy, the quarterback from Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame Dane was out of town. Um, but we had

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Speaker 1: two other bigs And I joked on Instagram that we

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Speaker 1: out seven to other team jumps out twelve five. Next

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Speaker 1: thing you know, it's twenty three, twelve are losing and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what what's going on? And again there is

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Speaker 1: an NBA parallel here because guys, I can't express it enough.

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Speaker 1: When we are not hitting threes. We cannot get separation.

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Speaker 1: First half, I'm fairly certain we missed all our threes,

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Speaker 1: hit three threes in the first half. Anyway, second half,

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Speaker 1: me and our guy that we that I call Sane Clay,

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Speaker 1: He's just such a good shooter. I think he hit

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Speaker 1: you know, you look up and it was like thirty

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing that's interesting. They started talking trash

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Speaker 1: You know me, I'm getting out there. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: my Alvarado thing. By the way, did not um It

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Speaker 1: know me firstance I went to this is not a

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Speaker 1: the spread. We're playing the second place team in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: They're all right, but we killed him by thirty last time. UM.

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Speaker 1: I need to talk about Deshaun Watson because his suspension

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Speaker 1: at least a year, so maybe more. However, there is

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Speaker 1: something and we talked about it last week with our guest. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know the guy from Cleveland. He was on First

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Speaker 1: Take Jay Crawford, really interesting stuff. I suggest going back

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna spend our guy, we need to see

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna punish our guy like this, we want

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Speaker 1: fair treatment for everyone else. This goes treat our players

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll laugh at that and say, well, the billionaires,

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Speaker 1: There's no way the NFL is given up what they have.

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Speaker 1: you could they have suspended Craft. They're not gonna take

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Speaker 1: the team from Craft. They could take the team from Snyder,

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Speaker 1: But like, how do you punish Craft for his situation? Right?

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a kind of an ugly situation, a

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Speaker 1: bit of a morass, if you will, But not how

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be ugly. I mean, no disrespect for

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Speaker 1: derby's always fun. But going forward, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: NBA this week and a lot of football, especially Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: happens to Baker Mayfield? And we've also obviously got some

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Speaker 1: and then we got NBA Kyrie and Kevin Durant. This

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Speaker 1: to our guest now to start your week. Jake Fisher

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Speaker 1: to listen live. Jake I think you'd agree. The Hawks

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Speaker 1: to run it back essentially and it did not work.

425
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Speaker 1: And um, you know, Collins has a big contract. He

426
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Speaker 1: had a twenty one and ten It looks like what

427
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: two years ago, but in the when the COVID season,

428
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Speaker 1: uh he it And so you know he's like a

429
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: what is the six seventeen and seven guy who maybe

430
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: could shoot thirty seven from three? Like I just don't know,

431
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: Like I know this's gonna sound crazy, but Jake, a

432
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: guy like Grant Williams who we saw in the finals

433
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: for the Celtics and the playoffs, I feel like Grant

434
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: Williams is like a much better contract and situation than

435
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 1: a guy like John Collins. Right, he was definitely better contract. Um,

436
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: John is a very good player, and he does have

437
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 1: value on the league. I think you know his deals five.

438
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't know off the top of my head if

439
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: it's ascending or descending, but it's twenty five urgant value, right.

440
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: I do think there's a lot of people on the

441
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: league who think that's pretty strong value. But you have

442
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: to you have to love John Collins. If you have

443
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: to trade for him with then there's still four years

444
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: left on that deal. I mean, you really gotta want

445
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 1: to be able to build around him at that number,

446
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: which you know, if you think he's capable of being

447
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: the third best player on a championship team, and then

448
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: then you go for it. And and look, he definitely

449
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: had talked He definitely was being talked about with South

450
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: Meermento in Portland's and San Antonio, UM and Utah. I

451
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 1: know Boston called to go to your Great Williams point

452
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 1: at one point. I don't think the talks between Boston

453
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: Atlanta got very serious though, That's why I ever wrote them, UM,

454
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 1: but that they've had interest for sure. UM, and just

455
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: a matter of finding a deal that I think Atlanta

456
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: clearly thinks is going to make them better. That that's

457
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: that's where they're at, because Atlanta has designs of getting

458
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: back to that conference final level that you talked about. UM,

459
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: let's go to the other guy in the college alleged deal,

460
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: the Dijon to Murray aspect. And I gotta say when

461
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 1: I when I first saw you report that, I was like,

462
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: that's why why would they move off to John to Murray,

463
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: I thought he was a good player. Um, you know,

464
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: his stats are pretty good. It looks like among point

465
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: guards he was fourth in player efficiency rating. He's young,

466
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: he's he plays defense. Um, I don't think he's number

467
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: one on the team. Why are the Spurs looking to

468
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 1: move off him? So I don't think the Spurs are

469
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: like actively looking to move off with him. I do

470
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: think they're very open to exploring and listening to offers

471
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: for for two reasons. One, Um, it's mostly financial, I think,

472
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: being that he's on like a sixteen seventeen million dollar

473
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: deal right now that's gonna expire at the end of

474
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: next season, so it's going to the word he'll be

475
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: a free agent, and the way the cap works, the

476
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: Spurs will only be able to offer him a hundred

477
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: rays of his current people, which is going to be

478
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: well below what is max contract will be. So basically

479
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of like what the situation the Mavericks are

480
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: in right now with Jalen Brunson because they did not

481
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: come to an extension agreement. He's an unrestricted free agent. Um,

482
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: the Spurs Degondy Murray is going to become an un

483
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: restricted free agent because because they can't come to an

484
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: extension deal that's gonna be high enough to meet his wishes. Um.

485
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: So it's kind of the opposite of Jalen, where from

486
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: my understanding, Brunson's people were saying, Hey, give us this

487
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: extension that is a max of four or fifty six

488
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: that we can do in season, and you know, the

489
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: Navs didn't do it. And now after the dead one,

490
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson was not going to do it because that

491
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: was far lower than the number he knew was going

492
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: to get on the open market. Right. I think the

493
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: Spurs are trying to pre empt that situation in where

494
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: he's already a twenty five year old multi time All Star,

495
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: but there's still not like Santonio made the Tennessee last year.

496
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: They had a little play and run to get there,

497
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: but like the Spurs still aren't necessarily trying to take

498
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: that next step to to move into the competition of

499
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: moving up the ranks of the playoffs standings in the West.

500
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: So I think if you can move to Mury potentially

501
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: at the peak of his value right now, it could

502
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: be you know, probably the best value player for san Antonio. Yeah,

503
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. Um, I'm just curious Jake Murray.

504
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: Can he be the best player on a finals contender.

505
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we've seen that right now, but I'm

506
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: a very I'm a very big fan of him. I

507
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: think he could easily be a number two. I think

508
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: he could be a two. Okay, so he could be

509
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: maybe a Jalen Brown if you have a Jason Tatum. Look,

510
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: if I'm the Knicks right now, we were just talking

511
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: about Jalen Brunson. Right If on the Knicks right now,

512
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: I would call San Antonio yesterday and say, would you

513
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: take Emmanuel quickly, Evans contract and three first round picks?

514
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: That the three? That's the price. I've been told that

515
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: they're asking for three. But the Knicks just got three

516
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: in the draft from the number eleven pick. So you

517
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: could basically turn the number eleven pick Evan Fournier and

518
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: I'm annual quickly into the Jon Murray. That sounds like

519
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: a win to Nick, it does. Wow. I didn't realize

520
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: three for Murray. The Spurs are not in a position

521
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: of uh strength here from this deal though, Like it

522
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: sounds like he's a goner that they're not gonna be

523
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: able to afford him. So three picks seems like a lot.

524
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: But let's let's go to the Knicks. I've been a

525
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: Knicks fan forever. I like Brunson. I tried to do

526
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: research on this Jake. It appears that Brunson wanted to

527
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: deal before last season. They said, the Map said no.

528
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: Then the price went up at the deadline and the

529
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: Map said no, And now the price is skyrocketing and

530
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: the MAVs have a decision to make. It's, of course,

531
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: reminds me of the great quote from the Wire, yesterday's

532
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: price is not today's price. And what it sounds like Brunson.

533
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: A lot of people are claiming that Brunson is like

534
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: a done deal to the Knicks. I don't know if

535
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: it's done deal, but I mean the momentum is certainly

536
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: shifted that direction. I mean I had heard, I talked

537
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: about on my podcast. I had heard that Brunsdon was

538
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: telling teammates and former teammates, you know, it's basically like

539
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: a done deal. I'm going back to Dallas And now

540
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: that is not what the word is. The word is

541
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: definitely that New York is coming. They're going to make

542
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: an aggressive offer. The number is definitely at least four one.

543
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: I've got people I know who are prepared for that

544
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: number to be, you know, closer to one ten. But

545
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean you said, you know, will Dallas be able

546
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: to mat like it really doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

547
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: If Jalen just wants to go to New York and

548
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: they are dropping him a fat bag, he can just

549
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: take it. The Mavericks can't match it. I mean, they

550
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: can try to give him a fifth year with more money, um,

551
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: but even still, like it'll be Jalen's decision at the

552
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: end of the day. It's not like DeAndre and as

553
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: a restrictive for Agent UM in Phoenix. So yeah, I

554
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: mean someone asked me what are the odds he goes

555
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: to New York versus Dallas on my show on Thursday?

556
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: I said fifty fifty, which might sound like a cop out,

557
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: but look what what like the John Collins stubation that

558
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: we just talked about where there's five different teams who

559
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: have talked and he could go this way or that

560
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: way whatever. In the NBA, if something has a fifty

561
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: chance of happening, that's pretty damn high. So the fact

562
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: that I mean Detroit was linked for a while there

563
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: to be a suitor Indiana as well. I had heard,

564
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: Um Atlanta even checked in on that. Um, because with

565
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: Jason right, like, the Hawks are definitely looking at pairing

566
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: Tray with a with a with a pretty like high

567
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: caliber backcourt mate. That's kind of what their idea is. Um.

568
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't think they were in They were involved on CJ.

569
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: McCollums trade talks before he went to New Orleans and

570
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: Derek White before he went to Boston. Hold on, Jake,

571
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: when you say high power, do you mean defensive minded

572
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: because obviously a lot of people see Trey and think

573
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: Curry and Curry of course early on, Oh we can't

574
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: defend anybody. Well, we got Clay who was a primary

575
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: defender as a shooting guard. Is that the kind of

576
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: scenario Atlanta is looking to mimic? Um? I mean, I'm

577
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: sure I think that's their ideal situation, like with the

578
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: Jona right, But I mean c J. McCollum was not that, right,

579
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: Derek White, I think with more of the defensive side

580
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: of thing, I think they're just looking for primarily a

581
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: secondary ball handler who could even kind of help Trey

582
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 1: work off the ball sometimes like stuff does. Right. Um,

583
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, back back to Brunson, like the fact that

584
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: his market now is down to just Dallas in New York,

585
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: and it seems to be like pretty much one of

586
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: the other depending on what happens here. That is a

587
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: pretty dramatic chain of events. And I think that that

588
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: it is, like will he stay or will he go

589
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: to New York is something that a lot of people

590
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: on the league You're talking about, So let me ask

591
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: about this. If Dallas loses Brunson financially, that's can can

592
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: how do they fill that void? Because that's not ideal,

593
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: Like he was their second best player. Now I know

594
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: Hardaway was gone, um and Hardaway will be back. And obviously,

595
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: um they added someone. I forget who they added recently,

596
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: Um Spencer Dinwoody at the trade. Uh, well din Woody.

597
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: But so I thought they added so a Christian would

598
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: Christian would a nice player, Like, They've got several guys

599
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: who could fill that two rule. I think they'll be okay.

600
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: But it's not great to lose a guy and get

601
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: nothing in return, right, It's terrible and uh, it's a

602
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: very bad outcome for Dallas if that happens. Um, for

603
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: my understanding, with all the Cats flexibility stuff, they will

604
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: not have another move up their sleeve, and then what

605
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: he will have been the you know backup option that

606
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't depending on who you talked to,

607
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: he wasn't that they don't say that. Then Woody was

608
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: directly acquired at the deadline to be there. There fails

609
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: safe if Dale were to leave. I think they were

610
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: ideally are gonna keep everyone right. But look, that's kind

611
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: of where things are going to stand. If Jalen does walk,

612
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna be, you know, approaching the tax probably having

613
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: to pay attacks, and they don't make another move regardless

614
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: of if Jalen stays or not. So they're not going

615
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: to have flexibility to replace him, which is why this

616
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: is such a hot button topic and why Mavericks fans

617
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: are on the edge of their seat right now. And

618
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: I know, I say I'm a Knicks fan, but my

619
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: dog starts freaking out anytime the Knicks are in a

620
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: panic blue. But I'll say this, I'm a big Luca guy,

621
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: and the only thing I would say that Dallas has

622
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: going forward in this deal Jake is that Mark Cuban

623
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: is worth a ton of money, and it feels like

624
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: he got close. I had my gut tells me he's

625
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: gonna be willing to match anything or even prop possibly

626
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: overpay for Brunson given his financial situation. Would you agree

627
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: or no? The MAVs are very motivated to keep him.

628
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: I do think this is just an educated mess. I

629
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: do think they're going to have to put a really

630
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: fat five year deal, probably similar if not higher to

631
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: the John Collins contract we talked about five five in

632
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: order to keep him. I really do think that's the

633
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: one bird that Dallas has in their hand. Yeah, I

634
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: don't hate that. All right, Let's get to the The

635
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: guy who I thought was going to be the biggest

636
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: name Jake is my guy, Zach Levine. I am a

637
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Speaker 1: zach Levine truther. I love his game. Thinking about him

638
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Speaker 1: about about a month ago, he was gonna be the

639
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: big name this summer. And then of course Donovan, Mitchell

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00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: and Kyrie and k D come up. What's what's the

641
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: latest of Zach Lavine in Chicago? A lot of chatter

642
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 1: out here in l A that he he would love

643
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: to get back to the West Coast. Yeah, there was

644
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: a lot of chadow he'd want to go to the

645
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: Lakers and want to go to Portland's ironically, there was

646
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: a lot of san Antonio buzz where he could have

647
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: become the top option they're playing alongside the Jonty, which

648
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: I thought was ironic obviously because san Antonio was worth

649
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: the Mar. The Rosen was previously UM and he wanted

650
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: to take it out to go join a competitive Eastern

651
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Conference team like Chicago. But I do think despite all

652
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Speaker 1: the talk of Zach wanting to potentially have his like

653
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Speaker 1: true owned team and be the number one scoring option,

654
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Speaker 1: because the Mar is that guy in Chicago, right, the

655
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Mar is the guy with the ball in his hands

656
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: as the clock is taking down in the fourth quarter. Purportedly,

657
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: Zach had cared about that the the intel now that

658
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: has been pretty strong for about two weeks that he

659
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: will be going back UM. It seems like they're gonna

660
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: be some haggling over the fifth year, and the fact

661
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: that he's got a lingering knee issue I think has

662
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: brought some cause for concern on the Bull side of

663
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: things to give him a full five year max. But

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Speaker 1: everyone I've talked to is pretty much expecting him to

665
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: go back to Chicago to Reese sign, and the Bulls

666
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: are trying to figure out their front court situation now

667
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: to kind of really solidify um, whether Vovich or somebody

668
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: else or a guy behind us can really help be

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00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: the center UM that holds down that lineup with him

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Speaker 1: and Damar and Alonzo. Fox Sports Radio has the best

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Speaker 1: Let's go to my guy, Donovan Mitchell, another guy like

675
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: we briefly touched on him, Like Utah loses Snyder, go

676
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Baron Mitchell. You know, fractus if you read between the

677
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: tea leaves on Instagram, something I probably shouldn't do. Donovan

678
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: Mitchell seems like he's ready to move on, but easier

679
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: said than done. What's your vibe there? Like, who is

680
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: in the mix besides Miami and allegedly New York. No.

681
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Speaker 1: I think I'm very, very very prepared for Donovan to

682
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Speaker 1: still be in Utah, at least through the All Star

683
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Speaker 1: Game next February, where the Jazz are hosting the All

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Speaker 1: Star Game in Salt Lake City. And silly as it

685
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: could be understood by certain people, like I really do

686
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: think that's an important thing to the Jazz to Jazz

687
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: owner Bryan Smith. Just like in Cleveland last year, how

688
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: Darren Scarland and Jared Allen we're all Stars and Evan

689
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: Mobi played in the whole rookie sophomore thing and they

690
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: know it was like a big Cleveland moment, right Like

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00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: they want Donovan to be there. I mean, they have

692
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Speaker 1: these new jerseys this season to kind of be in

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Speaker 1: line with the All Star weekend stuff. By the way,

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Speaker 1: did Jake did you see those jerseys? They're not great.

695
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: Even Jazz fans were that. I know, We're just like Jay,

696
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: these are terrible, ugly. I like the Mountain one though.

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00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: The Purple Mountains okay, but there was a Forest Green

698
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: throwback back in the day when Gordon Hayward was there

699
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: that I really wanted badly, and then Hayward left and

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00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: I was like, no things continue. Sorry. It's similar to

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Speaker 1: the Ben Simmons situation, where like, if he does request

702
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: to trade, he's still got a lot of years left

703
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: on his deal. I think it's three, and the Jazz

704
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: don't have to trade him where he wants to go

705
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: like the Knicks, They're not going to have the best

706
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: offer for him. Miami definitely could like we talked about,

707
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: but it depends on I mean, if this happens in

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Speaker 1: February and Kevin Durant becomes available in the heat go

709
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: trade Pertebatoriant like, then they're not going to be the

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00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: best option, right, So, um, it's always gonna be a

711
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: sliding scale of what happens and who's available. Um, but

712
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: as things are presently comprised, I mean, the Knicks do

713
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: have all those picks now, so maybe they could get

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00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: more of it if they can throw five first at

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Speaker 1: the Jazz for Donovan Mitchell. I mean, the Jazz would

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00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: probably have to listen to that, But in terms of

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00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: that's more than Anthony Davis warranted, right exactly. And I

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00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: looked at this. I don't think Donovan Mitchell has ever

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00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: been all n B A. I don't know if he has.

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00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: That's weird because Anthony Davis, you know, he had more

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00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: playoff flame mounts than Donovan Mitchell did. So that's a

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00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: tough one. Five first, But the Knicks are that desperate, right,

723
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: They've whipped on everybody forever. Alright, A couple more real quick, Jake, UM,

724
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Speaker 1: I'm here at some stuff aboutd'angelo Russell in Minnesota, right,

725
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: so at the draft they get a big the kids

726
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: seven ft one kid North Carolina to Auburn Walker Kessler

727
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: to pair with cat because cat playing can't play defense.

728
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards clearly as the guy. D'Angelo Russell was benched

729
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: late in the Minnesota series uh A Minnesota Memphis series.

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00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: It sounds like Russell could be on the move again.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know what they're looking at. Have you

732
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: heard of anything? So they're definitely looking to move '

733
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: Angela Russell. This is a situation unlike John Collins, where

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Speaker 1: I'm not expecting him to actually get moved because I

735
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: really don't see much of the market for him. When

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00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: when when Minnesota did acquire him from Golden State, I

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00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: got people who were in the front office at the

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00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: time who said to me that, you know, there there

739
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: really wasn't any other bidders for him, Like maybe New

740
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: York was the only other one that we were talking about.

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00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: So if New York is going after Jayleen Bronson or

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00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: maybe Kyrie or Malcolm Brogdon, they're donovant. Like I think

743
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: the Angels on the nixt list of like potential options

744
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: to play point guard for them next year, I don't

745
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: think he's high. On top of it, I don't think

746
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: anyone around the league is desperate to go take on

747
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: his thirty million dollars this season because he's not just

748
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: an expiring contract. I've been told he is looking for

749
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: an extension. Um. I mean he's believe eight, so like, yeah,

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00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: I understand he would be looking for extensions. I don't

751
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: see anyone who's like rushing to the table to do that,

752
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: and he I'm very prepared for him to be back

753
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, even though the Wolves are are absolutely exploring

754
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: their trade options for him. It's so weird. He came

755
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State, rose way up the draft board.

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00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: I think he went number two overall. I mean Jake Lakers,

757
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Warriors, Timberwolves. He's only twenty five years old. Sorry,

758
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: he's six. That's just crazy. Um. The one team I

759
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: did here that was interested was Washington to pair him

760
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: with Beal because they didn't have a point card. And

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00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: then they go draft Johnny Davis. So it's like, I

762
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: think they got Johnny Davis right cards though I will

763
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: say so, I'm not ruling it just because they got

764
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: Johnt Davis. I think they're still gonna look for vetteran

765
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: point guards here. Yeah, alright, briefly on while we're on

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00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: Bradley beals he's gonna stay in Washington. I just Jake,

767
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: I look at it. He's made a lot of money,

768
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: he's never won really anything like at some point, don't

769
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: you look yourself in the here and say, man, this

770
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: was a fun run, but I would like to go win.

771
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: I like to be playing in June. I don't know.

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00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: I believe he's going to take the money and stay,

773
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: but that he will ultimately be requesting a trade out

774
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: of Washington expires. That is my educated guest. So that's

775
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: the move, right, I'll take your contract. And then, by

776
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: the way, we have a wink wink deal. Hey, if

777
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: this goes south and we're like wins, you will trade

778
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: me and Whuton will probably say sure, yeah, yeah deal.

779
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a wink wink deal, but yeah.

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00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean I've said this a lot. When ye before

781
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Joan has resigned his super Max and Milwaukee before they

782
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: won the title, his people were absolutely saying to each other,

783
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: and you know, to him like look, if this doesn't

784
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: work out, we take the money and we run like

785
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: like what's fine? No, one's gonna hold it against us,

786
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: like the Bucks didn't build a title contender around us.

787
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: Then they win and call Kumbayan It's fine. But Ben Simmons,

788
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, he took the super or not the super Max,

789
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: but his Max. I feel he could have offered and

790
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: then turn right around and said, oh I don't like

791
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: how Joel Embiide and Doc Rivers said this about the

792
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: post game in game seven, I'm out. So yeah, I mean,

793
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Bradley Bill could do the same thing donand they took

794
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: me do the same thing in Utah. That makes sense?

795
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: All right? Um, real quick? Just because I like to

796
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: take jabs at Michael Jordan and you wrote a book

797
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: about tanking. Um, what an embarrassment, right, They try to

798
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: hire Atkinson, he says sure, and they says no thing,

799
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: and the desperate Michael Jordan Hornets have to go back

800
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: and add Steve Clifford. I mean, where people texting you

801
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: run the league laughing about this. Yeah, I mean, look,

802
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: to be fair, I do think Steve Clifford in a

803
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: vacuum for this team is a pretty decent outcome and

804
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: a pretty good higher. But yes, the fact that they

805
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: fired a guy with guaranteed money and James Burrego, who

806
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: they just resigned you know, nine months prior, and then

807
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: hired Kenny Atkinson, who then you know, from from all

808
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: all accounts from my reporting, a big reason why he

809
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: backed out of that deal was contract stuff with his UM,

810
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: with his assistance and other things that you know, kind

811
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: of the Hornets were pulling a bit of a bait

812
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: and switch behind the scenes on with him UM and

813
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: then I have to go and rush to hire a

814
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: guy who you fired four years ago. Yeah, it's something

815
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: that people in the league are talking about. They're not

816
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: looking at the Hornets as an example banner franchise right now.

817
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, Yeah, there's just another bad look

818
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: for Jordan. What do you what by bait and switch?

819
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: What do you mean that they hold at k into

820
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: one thing and then when he went to sign the

821
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: contractor like, oh, yeah, by the way, we control this. Oh.

822
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to say too much, but I'll say that, yes,

823
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: certain things like every coach is different, right, certain coaches

824
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: want to have you know, their fingerprints on every roster

825
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: decision and stuff like that. I think I think sometimes

826
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's exactly what happened here. But um,

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00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: I think sometimes in the interview process or what have you,

828
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: teams will will give a picture that this is what

829
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: the situation will be like. And then once you get

830
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: there and you're actually talking about, you know, it's the

831
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: week in the draft and what your role is gonna

832
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: be on draft week and stuff like that, I think

833
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't exactly as advertised. Alright, Uh, Second to last,

834
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Speaker 1: we will touch on Kyrie Irving will save the Lakers

835
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: for the end? Kyrie Irving? I mean, listen, a lot

836
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: can happen in the next what nine hours, seventy two

837
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: however many days he's got until he has to make

838
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: a decision. But it sounds like increasingly he does want

839
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: to stay and work it out with Brooklyn, but he

840
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: has to project the opposite, which is kind of the

841
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: that of what's happening with the Lakers right now. But

842
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: he has to say I'm out, I'm out, I'm done,

843
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: see you goodbye. Kevin Durant also is gonna want to leave.

844
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: He has to say that to get his deal. What's

845
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: your best guest? Jake on what the Nets and Kyrie

846
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: settle on? Is it a two plus one? Is it

847
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: a one plus one? Do you think Kyrie can force

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Speaker 1: his way into the max. I don't think he's getting

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Speaker 1: a full four or five year max from Brooklyn. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's happening. Could they find the two plus one? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Could they find an opt in with two years or

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Speaker 1: like the second of the third year is like partially

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Speaker 1: guaranteed something like that. Maybe. Um, I think I think yeah,

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Speaker 1: to three years is probably what the number is gonna

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Speaker 1: end up. The length is gonna end up being the

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Speaker 1: same thing with James Harden and Philly. Um, they're just

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Speaker 1: gonna I mean, they need to have continual, ongoing conversation

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Speaker 1: about expectations for next season, for commitment to the team,

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Speaker 1: all that jazz, because I mean, he's played a third

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Speaker 1: of the games he could have played in our first

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Speaker 1: three years with him being in Brooklyn, right, So like

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Speaker 1: that's obviously not ideal for a guy that you're paying,

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Speaker 1: you know, maximum level money. So they need to figure

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Speaker 1: that out. But yeah, to your point, I think you

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Speaker 1: said earlier in the show and maybe just now to like,

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Speaker 1: no one is expecting him to take the one year

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Speaker 1: non tax para mid level to go to the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Like if he's this, you know, adamant about getting a

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Speaker 1: four year max from Brooklyn, Like, you really think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna flee and take six millions somewhere else? No one's

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Speaker 1: preparing for that. Well, I was gonna say, do you

872
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Speaker 1: think what's more likely he he straight up says I'm retiring,

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Speaker 1: or he takes the mid level six or ten million

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Speaker 1: dollars or whatever. Probably the I think he probably takes

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Speaker 1: a seven million and play with Lebrown in l A

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Speaker 1: before what Yeah, well, first of all, okay, now to

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. Do you think Lebron really wants to play

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Speaker 1: with him? Jakes? Seriously? I mean, I think Lebron really

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Speaker 1: wants to win another ring. Steph just tied him right,

880
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: like he's chasing the goat. He wants six d and

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Speaker 1: Kyrie is going to get you there. He did five

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Speaker 1: six years ago, Jake. Stop, come on, He's still one

883
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Speaker 1: of the most skilled players in NBA history recording with

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Speaker 1: all that he got. Jake, he swept in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I've just Celtic and he was bad. He wasn't great

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Speaker 1: in that serious, yes, but he's hurt every year in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, come on, Lebron has to have

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00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: a better card up as sleeve than Hey, let's bring

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Speaker 1: on Kyrie. Please tell me that's something I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see the Russell Westbrook trade. I

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Speaker 1: don't see them having much more flexibility to do anything

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Speaker 1: besides that non tax paramid level. That's kind of their

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Speaker 1: best option to add more talent right now. Oh, this

894
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Speaker 1: is just this is just spiriting if you're a Laker fan,

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Speaker 1: and it is interesting. He has talked up Anthony Davis

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Speaker 1: on I g I've seen nothing about Russell Westbrook in

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Speaker 1: the in the last month. Yeah, I mean they're definitely.

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Speaker 1: I mean Rob Point I think even said something very

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Speaker 1: candidly in the post draft press stuff like if Westbrook

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Speaker 1: is here, if if if not like the no, he'll

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Speaker 1: be here. He's our guy. So yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I also I have not heard anything serious with RUSS.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Charlotte buzz has never really gone away

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Speaker 1: about could they do something with Gordon Hayward and um

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Speaker 1: other contracts there. But like other than that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Indian with Malcolm Brogman doesn't seem that legitimate. The Rockets,

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Speaker 1: I mean doesn't seem real. So I don't know where

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go. I don't see it. I'll be honest.

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Speaker 1: I would take Hayward in a heartbeat, Brogden in a heartbeat,

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Speaker 1: even if you had to have to attach, and you

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Speaker 1: probably would at one or two of the first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I think you've got to do something right. You can't

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Speaker 1: just run this back. Yeah, they, I mean, the Lakers

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Speaker 1: have been projecting all along that they do not want

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Speaker 1: to trade a pick to get off for us. So

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Speaker 1: if they if they hold that stance firm and like,

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Speaker 1: I don't see a deal happening all right. Jake Fisher,

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Speaker 1: he is, I mean, he covers the league for the

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Speaker 1: Bleacher Report, does a great job. He also wrote a

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Speaker 1: book Built to Lose, How the NBA's tanking era changed

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Speaker 1: the league forever. I by the way, I love the

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Speaker 1: idea of tanking. I liked your book. I I think

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Speaker 1: tanking for Big Vic out of France next year makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know who's gonna do it. Okay, See's

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Speaker 1: kind of has is like on the uptick. I think

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Speaker 1: Houston's on the uptick. Give me a sleeper team that

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Speaker 1: could tank and end up with Big Vic san Antonio

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Speaker 1: if they if they moved to Jehan Tamery I do

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Speaker 1: think they could be a real stealthy team to go.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're one of the original breeding grounds and Internet, right,

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, David, it's good stuff all right, Jake, thanks

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Speaker 1: for your time. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you.