WEBVTT - The Search for Nancy Guthrie

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to all of you for being with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Right down our toll free telephone number if you want

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<v Speaker 2>and ninety four one Sean if you want to join

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<v Speaker 2>us now. I'm looking at a list of some of

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<v Speaker 2>the top stories of today, and it's like the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>we don't get to on an average day is pretty remarkable, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, Charlotte sheriff guy with the name of Gary McFadden,

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<v Speaker 2>not able to name a single branch of government. I'm like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>ten people are dead, twenty five injured. A woman wearing

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<v Speaker 2>a dress open fired on a school in British Columbia, Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we do have good news on the economy

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<v Speaker 2>that we're going to get to for sure. You have

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<v Speaker 2>an American born Olympic star who competes for China slamming

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Great. I have no interest in the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>All these athletes that are woke and they're proud of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're making comments, and I don't want their political commentary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not interested.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the story that I was most interested

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<v Speaker 2>in was Lin's Yvonne, and I feel terrible that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she had she had been skiing so well. It was

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<v Speaker 2>such a great comeback, and I felt awful that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she ended up fracturing her her tib after, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she had a cl she had injured her a cl

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<v Speaker 2>and she was still competing. She said that did not

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<v Speaker 2>factor into what happened. I mean, you're on a razor's

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<v Speaker 2>edge when you're going at that kind of speed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a very dangerous sport. Oh, we had Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>Nadler falling asleep during the ag Pam Bondi opening statement today.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the first time for him. Michael Moore's back

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<v Speaker 2>says Jews should stop attacking Palestinians because the real enemy

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<v Speaker 2>is white Christians. Okay, just a just a quick synopsis

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<v Speaker 2>headlines of what is going on on any given day

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't usually.

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<v Speaker 1>Have time to get to. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was very hopeful yesterday as it relates

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<v Speaker 2>to Nancy Guthrie, and it was definitely a big breakthrough.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know, and we had FBI director Cash Bettel

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<v Speaker 2>on TV last night. The FBI has persons of interest,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm still hopeful. Harvey Levin of TMZ received a

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<v Speaker 2>third letter claiming to know Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper, and the

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<v Speaker 2>third letters not like the first letter. He said, they're

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<v Speaker 2>saying they know who the kidnapper is and that this

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<v Speaker 2>bitcoin address that they're putting out is real. One thing

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<v Speaker 2>on the issue of crime, just so you understand, there's

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<v Speaker 2>been a massive crime crash in cities with the largest

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<v Speaker 2>drops in homicide rates. For example, Orlando's down fifty eight percent, Tampa,

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<v Speaker 2>Florida is down fifty two percent, Denver down forty seven percent,

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<v Speaker 2>Prince George's County, Maryland down forty percent, Seattle down thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent, Honolulu thirty four percent, Albuquerque down thirty four percent, Columbus,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio thirty three percent. Why should in DC got to

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<v Speaker 2>give Mayor Bowser credit if you let Donald Trump come

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<v Speaker 2>in and help down thirty two percent? I mean, violent

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<v Speaker 2>crime is plunging around the country, But if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle and you're a victim of crime, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean much to you, does it. We will have Nancy Grace.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get her take on where we are now.

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<v Speaker 2>There is some updates in the Guthrie case, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>also get to the other news of the day. FBI

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<v Speaker 2>is now conducting an extensive search, excuse me, in the

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<v Speaker 2>foothills near Nancy Guthrie's house, and the federal agency's Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>Bureau said their agents are conducting this external search. One

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's I'm going to bring and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to spend a lot of time on this now, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it is worth bringing up later, is that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know for a fact that local authorities were not

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<v Speaker 2>that willing to work with the FBI early on, in

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<v Speaker 2>spite of the fact that, I mean, local sheriffs are amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you where I live, local sheriff, the

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<v Speaker 2>police department, all these guys are amazing, and they're the

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<v Speaker 2>best of the best. But you know, in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the latest most advanced technology, like for example, all this

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<v Speaker 2>video that we got yesterday is because of cash Pttel's

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<v Speaker 2>FBI and their involvement in this case. But their involvement,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I'm concerned, was too late. Who was

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<v Speaker 2>it In an interview, it was John Benet Ramsey's father

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<v Speaker 2>that said they did. They would recommend anybody if you

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<v Speaker 2>find yourself. He said he didn't care at all that

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<v Speaker 2>people were looking at him as a suspect. He knew

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't do it, and that it was frustrating to

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<v Speaker 2>him that local law enforcement that was their sole focus.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he said that if you ever find yourself

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation like this, bring the FBI in immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the technology they have is that advanced, the

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<v Speaker 2>relationships that they have. I mean, it was Ash Bettel

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<v Speaker 2>that got in touch with Google and they were able

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<v Speaker 2>to recover this tape. And if you listened to one

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<v Speaker 2>of the earlier press conferences, the Pima County sheriff said,

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<v Speaker 2>there there's no recoverable video. There's what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>To twelve AM. Software detects a person on a camera,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's no video available. They had no subscription. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what our analysis teams have called us, the tech company

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<v Speaker 3>that we sent that camera off to. Yes, they've said

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<v Speaker 3>they've they've they've run out of ways to recover any video.

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<v Speaker 2>Effie, I didn't miss a beat on that. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not being critical of law enforcement. I'm not. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying that, you know, when something happens, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the time to put your ego in the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and you should get all hands on deck and get

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<v Speaker 2>the best and brightest and from the beginning, President Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, made available all federal resources into you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to descend Tucson, and when the FBI got there, they

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<v Speaker 2>were able to do things that others were not. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to know why they were multiple searches of

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<v Speaker 2>the home, it was the FBI going back there and

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<v Speaker 2>doing their own searches. But anyway, they're doing an extensive

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<v Speaker 2>search in the foothills near Nancy Guthrie's house. The federal

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<v Speaker 2>agency's Phoenix Bureau, the FBI said that they're examining all

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<v Speaker 2>the roadways along the Catalina Foothills in Arizona in the

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<v Speaker 2>search area. The update comes a day after the FBI

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<v Speaker 2>released this doorbell video footage and images and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the cash Betel's signal that they have persons of interest

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<v Speaker 2>in But they're getting there. I am confident. I just

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<v Speaker 2>hope they get there soon enough. Now, as it relates

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<v Speaker 2>to this letter that TMZ founder Harvey Levin, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>found to discuss this third lever letter they received regarding

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy Guthrie, the mother of Savannah Guthrie, co host of

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<v Speaker 2>the Today Show, and he pointed out, we got a

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<v Speaker 2>bizarre letter, an email from somebody who says they know

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<v Speaker 2>who the kidnapper is and they've tried reaching Savannah's sister

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<v Speaker 2>Annie in Savannah's brother to no avail. They said they

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<v Speaker 2>want one bitcoin sent to a Bitcoin address. They confirm

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<v Speaker 2>that it is an act of address, it's a real

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<v Speaker 2>Bitcoin address, and as they put it, time is more

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<v Speaker 2>than relevant. And he concluded, we have no idea whether

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<v Speaker 2>this is real or not, but they are making a demand.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually give a name and an email address. But

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<v Speaker 2>whoever sent this is asking for around that amount via

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<v Speaker 2>bitcoin for information that says that leads to the direction

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<v Speaker 2>of the person. Now, I think the price of a

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<v Speaker 2>bitcoin today was around sixty six thousand, and the FBI

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<v Speaker 2>is offering a fifty thousand dollars reward. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>why you'd go about it that way if you do

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<v Speaker 2>have information that would lead to the arrest of an

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<v Speaker 2>individual or individuals responsible for the subduction. An Arizona woman

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<v Speaker 2>says police and the FBI rated her home believing Nancy

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<v Speaker 2>Guthrie could be inside. I'm sure they're working on various tips,

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<v Speaker 2>but that didn't turn out the way they thought it might.

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<v Speaker 2>Pema County Police released the man they detained Tuesday night,

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<v Speaker 2>in connection with the kidnapping. Anyway, this person briefly detained.

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<v Speaker 2>Pema County sheriffs had deputies detained an individual during a

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<v Speaker 2>traffic stop south of Tucson, and the department and the

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<v Speaker 2>FBI also conducted a court author i search of the

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<v Speaker 2>home in Rio Rico, a community of about twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>residents roughly a half hour from Tucson, about fifteen miles

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<v Speaker 2>north of the US Mexico border. I've been down there

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<v Speaker 2>a number of times, covering the border for my TV show.

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<v Speaker 2>He said later that law enforcement one of his in

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<v Speaker 2>laws a photo taken of a mass man. I just

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<v Speaker 2>got to believe, especially with the reverse AI lighting, you

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<v Speaker 2>get a much better picture that way. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Ice bashing Senator John ass Off of Georgia, a vocal

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<v Speaker 2>critic of Ice running for re election in November, facing

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<v Speaker 2>heat from Georgia Republicans over his lack of public comment

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<v Speaker 2>on news that that Ice lodged a detainer for a

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia I legal immigrant accused of a Hanna's crime. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a big issue, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is why I'm like all in favor of Republicans putting

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats on record about voter I D about funding, ice,

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<v Speaker 2>about defund dismantled nobail. They're already on record voting for

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<v Speaker 2>the largest tax increase in history, voting against working men

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<v Speaker 2>and women and seniors. Uh, you know, put them on

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<v Speaker 2>record on all of this stuff. You know, why would

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<v Speaker 2>you be against voter I D simple basic, fundamental.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's this is just it is a mystery, and

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<v Speaker 2>the mystery keeps getting wider. We'll get Nancy Grace's take

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<v Speaker 2>on all of this. She always says a good an

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<v Speaker 2>ou on all of it. We do have some good

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<v Speaker 2>news on the economy, Linda. I'm sure you saw this today.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're monitoring the economy because polls are showing that

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<v Speaker 2>not every American is feeling it yet. And I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>expect every American to feel it yet. There is always

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<v Speaker 2>a lag period. You know, for example, the one big

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful bill. Working men and women now have more take

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<v Speaker 2>home pay as a result of that bill and lower

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<v Speaker 2>taxes than they were paying last year. So you're noticing

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<v Speaker 2>it in your take home pay, you know, to what

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<v Speaker 2>extent it makes a big difference in people's lives. That

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<v Speaker 2>that will that will reveal itself over time. People are

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<v Speaker 2>paying a lot less for gasoline, which is a massive

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<v Speaker 2>tax cut for anybody that drives a car unless you

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<v Speaker 2>have an electric vehicle, which is not good. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>it was announced that Ford Motor Company, they said yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>they announced that they lost nearly twenty seven thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on every electric vehicle they sold last year. Nobody want

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't want to make them, they were forced to

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<v Speaker 2>make them. So we now have interest rates that have

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<v Speaker 2>come down rather significantly. We have inflation that is in

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<v Speaker 2>check and down significantly, and those interest rates now I

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<v Speaker 2>can imagine with a new Fed chair and different monetary policy,

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<v Speaker 2>will be down even more significantly. I'd love to see

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty year fixed rate mortgage at four percent or less.

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<v Speaker 2>That will jumpstart sale of pre existing homes and new

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<v Speaker 2>home construction in the country. But the Labor Department didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have good news today that they had the official job

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<v Speaker 2>numbers for January that they put out this morning, and

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<v Speaker 2>they created a whopping one hundred and thirty thousand jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's more is the official one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand new job figure includes a decline of forty two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand government jobs. If you take the government jobs decline

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<v Speaker 2>out of the equation the private sector jobs actually a

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<v Speaker 2>gain of one hundred and seventy two thousand jobs. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when the trillions in committed manufacturing monies make it into

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<v Speaker 2>the economy, which is now happening because that one big

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful bill that most people didn't really read or pay

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<v Speaker 2>attention to. In it, they have what's known as one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent depreciation in year one. Now that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to a lot of people, but let me

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what it means for manufacturers. It means that

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<v Speaker 2>they can deduct the cost of building out their new facilities,

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<v Speaker 2>make that total tax deduction in the first year, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a massive incentive. It's like an accelerant and a fire.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that means that all the committed moneies for

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<v Speaker 2>pharmaceutical manufacturing and automobile manufacturing and semiconductor chip manufacturing and

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<v Speaker 2>mining of rare earths, et cetera. I mean it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to get very very You're going to see exponential growth,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And this this new jobs numbers assigned that

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<v Speaker 2>this is beginning now to turn into what those of

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<v Speaker 2>us that are supply sires have believed for a long time. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>President actually thinks that we can get to fifteen percent growth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of optimistic. But you know the Atlanta Fed

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<v Speaker 2>was predicting five point four percent growth. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>average next to nothing for a lot of quarters under

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden. I mean, it was just awful and not

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<v Speaker 2>helping the American people in any way, shape, matter or form.

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<v Speaker 2>So with this, you know, the unemployment rate and new

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<v Speaker 2>jobs creation and new manufacturing, and tax cuts and a

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<v Speaker 2>tax reduction with with energy costs being significantly lower, that

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<v Speaker 2>impacts everything you buy and everything you go, every story

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<v Speaker 2>you go to. Uh, it just is it is now

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<v Speaker 2>going to filter into the bloodstream of the economy and

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<v Speaker 2>every American is gonna feel it. And we want that.

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<v Speaker 2>We want Americans to prosper. Never mind that all this manufacturing,

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<v Speaker 2>all the trillions for manufacturing is going to create I

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<v Speaker 2>paying career jobs for the American people. By twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>now to the top of the hour, eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>nine four one, Shawn a number. You want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the program. Nancy Grace with the latest

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<v Speaker 2>on the search for eighty four year old Nancy Guthrie

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<v Speaker 2>coming up at the top of the hour. Later on

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<v Speaker 2>we'll check him with all things simple man, Bill O'Reilly.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh did you notice, Linda, mister O'Reilly was hobnobbing with

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<v Speaker 2>the rich and famous out in San Francisco. Apparently he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing some expos on on how bad that city has deteriorated.

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<v Speaker 4>Not so simple after all.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, Well, he's hobnobbing with the You know, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna claim it was work related. I'm only out

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<v Speaker 2>here doing investigative work.

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, mister O'Reilly is always working.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always working.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, And you know, look, I've been to Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>so I really guess I can't say anything. But that

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<v Speaker 2>used to be my Christmas present for my son every year.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd say, all right, I'd give him a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>I can buy a bunch of stuff, or if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to the because he loves football, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you want to go to football the super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>take it to the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Game and I take my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter never loved it, and and she was she

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<v Speaker 2>would choose the gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Smart girl.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not fun to go to it, just isn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that it probably once in your life if

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<v Speaker 2>you get a chance, you should go. Tickets are too expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>it's too crowded, the traffic is insane, security is insane,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's I don't know. I mean the times are different.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't I don't even think. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of like for me. Be like when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in New York and I I walk in a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting those looks. I mean you there are

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<v Speaker 2>times you know, now.

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<v Speaker 4>Thought they just like my shoes and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I get it, you're jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>I have good shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand now.

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<v Speaker 1>You just intimidate people by staring them down. Got a problem? Problem? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have. I have RBF. There's no question. What's RBF?

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<v Speaker 4>Resting b face. It's three thirty, so I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good grief, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 4>That works well on the subway, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you whatever, I can't help you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, well, let me tell you with all the

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<v Speaker 4>money you save, Like like American Financing keeps talking about

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<v Speaker 4>all this money you can save if you go to

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<v Speaker 4>them and you ask them. I wouldn't take any of

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<v Speaker 4>that money that I saved and use them on the

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl tickets I'll tell you that much.

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<v Speaker 2>How did this North Carolina Republican state Representative Alan Chesser

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<v Speaker 2>is his name taken by surprise when a Democratic sheriff

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<v Speaker 2>was long a posed cooperating with Ice could not answer

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<v Speaker 2>a basic question about how government works. North Carolina House

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<v Speaker 2>Oversight Committee here and there, spurred on by the recent

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<v Speaker 2>killing of a young Ukrainian women woman this is in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, took an unexpected turn when he asked the

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<v Speaker 2>county sheriff, what branch of government do you operate under? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy's the top law enforcement officer in the county

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<v Speaker 2>where where this Ukrainian woman was killed? And prompting the

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<v Speaker 2>answer you know again, he repeated the question what branch

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<v Speaker 2>of government do you operate under?

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<v Speaker 1>And the sheriff answered.

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<v Speaker 2>The Constitution of the United States, to which the guy said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that is what establishes the branches of government. I'm asking

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<v Speaker 2>you what branch you fall under, Linda, not a tough question.

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<v Speaker 2>Executive brands, legislative branch, judicial branch. Unless I I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember correctly, I don't need to.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I saw, Sean, and I wonder if

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<v Speaker 4>you agree with this. So I saw this a few

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<v Speaker 4>days ago when this happened, when the sheriff was giving

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<v Speaker 4>his testimony. At first I thought it was like a

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<v Speaker 4>Babylon be story. I didn't know if it was real.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I was like, oh my god, this is real.

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<v Speaker 4>And somebody made the comment like way down in the

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<v Speaker 4>chain on X and he said, you know what this

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<v Speaker 4>sheriff is. He has a product of our education system.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not being taught now. If this guy wasn't taught

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<v Speaker 4>thirty years ago, imagine what the kids are learning now.

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<v Speaker 1>A whole lot of nothing. That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't learn all the basics about our nation.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, this is not where I was

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<v Speaker 2>anticipating getting stuck. You're aware of how many branches of

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<v Speaker 2>government there are? And the sheriff quickly shot back no.

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<v Speaker 2>Then after a long pause, he says, for the sake

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<v Speaker 2>of debate, let's say there are three branches of government.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, if I were to classify your position as the

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<v Speaker 5>highest law enforcement officer in the county, will that be

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<v Speaker 5>a fair description? That's correct? As such, you made reference

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<v Speaker 5>earlier that you're a constitutional office. My colleague made reference

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<v Speaker 5>that there are constitutional divisions amongst responsibilities between US and

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<v Speaker 5>you what branch of government do you operate under, Mecinburg County.

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<v Speaker 5>What branch of government do you operate under? Constitution of

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<v Speaker 5>the United States? Correct, that is what establishes the branches

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<v Speaker 5>of government. I'm asking which branch you fall under?

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<v Speaker 3>Beckhamburg County, Mduley Sworn Meckinberg County Sheriff.

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<v Speaker 5>We answer to the people of Meconburg County. This was

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<v Speaker 5>not where I was anticipating getting stuck. Are you aware

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<v Speaker 5>of how many branches of government there are?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, for the sake of debate, I will move on

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<v Speaker 5>and say three branches of government legislative, executive, Judicial. Of

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<v Speaker 5>those three, which do you believe you fall under? I

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<v Speaker 5>believe I fall under the last one. Would you say

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<v Speaker 5>it to me? Judicial? Okay, you were in correct, sir,

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<v Speaker 5>you fall under the executive.

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<v Speaker 1>Ouch man. That's painful. That is so painful. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of like and we played this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I watched some of the hearings with Pam

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<v Speaker 2>Bonding today and it is not worth the time of

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<v Speaker 2>day to watch it. It is it is just people

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<v Speaker 2>trying to put on a show. You know, we saw

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<v Speaker 2>this yesterday as well. Todd Lyons, who's the head of CBP,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a US Customs Board of Protection. And he

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<v Speaker 2>was there with Commissioner Rodney Scott, Director you know, Joseph Edlow,

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<v Speaker 2>US acting director of US Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. That's

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<v Speaker 2>todd Lyons. And then you have this woman, Lamonica mcguiver, congresswoman.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's you're from? New Jersey? And now there is a

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<v Speaker 2>story about her case? You're interested?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently she's gotten in a little bit of trouble

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<v Speaker 2>according to this anyway, is she currently under indictment?

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<v Speaker 1>Linda?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I read that correctly? You sure have read that correctly. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you some questions that you may be

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<v Speaker 1>able to answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you consider yourself a religious man? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, Well, how do you think judgment day will

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<v Speaker 3>work for you with so much blood on your hands?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to entertain that question.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, of course not.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think you're going to hell? Mister Lyons. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not going to enswer.

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<v Speaker 2>How many governments lady will suspend, General lady will suspend?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is this, these are your representatives. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Housing and Urban Development arrested fifty fugitive felons

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<v Speaker 2>living in taxpayer funded housing and just one Ohio city.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's getting so out of control, the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money that we are discovering that is being wasted.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you want to know why California is

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<v Speaker 2>going bankrupt? California is going bankrupt because it's a sanctuary

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<v Speaker 2>state with sanctuary cities that provides taxpayer funded housing, education,

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<v Speaker 2>and healthcare. Medicalum particular is going bankrupt. Now, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>know because you don't really have a governor in California.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you have your full time you know, tweety bird,

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<v Speaker 2>trump stalker, podcaster, author, world traveler, Gavin Newsom. You know

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<v Speaker 2>who's not lifting a finger? Did you notice, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>now we're there, let's see Larry Ellison, Larry Page, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the co founders of Google. One of the other

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<v Speaker 2>co founders at Google. I forgot his name. He left,

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<v Speaker 2>what's his name? Mark Zuckerberg left. He's they're all moving

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<v Speaker 2>to my pre state of Florida, Ken Griffin, my pre

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<v Speaker 2>state of Florida, And the same thing's going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>in New York because they have this referendum mount in

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<v Speaker 2>California that is going to retroactively put a wealth tax

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<v Speaker 2>on all these these Silicon Valley billionaires that are the

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<v Speaker 2>heart and soul of California's economy. They lose that money. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>it is going to be a massive hit to California.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you think that state's been in decline, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be on steroids and human growth hormone. Here

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<v Speaker 2>is the failure of government, though, especially when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the immigration issue. You know, Governor Pritzker, Governor Pritsker,

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you he couldn't name five people shot in

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<v Speaker 2>January when there was what over thirty shootings and how

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<v Speaker 2>many dead fifteen dead, you know, for the month, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe thirty dead and more and more shootings. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just an insane number. And it was on foxnews dot

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<v Speaker 2>Com and a guy sent a letter to Pritzker, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with eleven questions about their sanctuary policies that protected the

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<v Speaker 2>illegal immigrant that killed this guy's daughter. The daughter's name

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<v Speaker 2>is Katie Abraham. I've lived in Illinois my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been I've met my social contract, I've done everything

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<v Speaker 2>properly I'm law abiding, productive, and if I didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>these things, I would have been punished. So I've met

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<v Speaker 2>my side of the bargain. But I want my governor

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<v Speaker 2>to know that he hasn't met his side of the bargain.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent JB.

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<v Speaker 2>Pritzker a letter asking straightforward questions about the sanctuary policies

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<v Speaker 2>that he champions, policies that protected an illegal alien who

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<v Speaker 2>went on to kill my daughter. I asked for a

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<v Speaker 2>response by January nineteenth, twenty twenty six, the one year

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 2>anniversary of Katie's death. To this day, I have received nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is their heart? What has happened to this?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Now they want they don't want voter ID because I

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<v Speaker 2>can't think of any rational reason why or proof of

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<v Speaker 2>citizenship to be able to vote. Now, both Republicans and

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Democrats over the years have complained about election integrity. This

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 2>would bring more integrity to the election process, and proof

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<v Speaker 2>of citizenship should be mandatory and legal ID should be mandatory.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I don't know why this is.

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<v Speaker 2>So complicated for people, And I think we should get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of three months worth of voting leading up to

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<v Speaker 2>an election. Democratic you know, it's unbelievable but they're too

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<v Speaker 2>busy asking questions, do you think you're going to hell?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's insane. Georgia Republicans are hammering Senator John

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<v Speaker 2>Ossof over silence have to Ice detainer and alleged child

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:58.479
<v Speaker 2>rape case. I mean, I don't understand these people. Vocal

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 2>critic of Ice wanning for reelection, facing heat in Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>over his lack of public comment on news that Ice

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<v Speaker 2>lodged a detainer for a Georgia illegal immigrant accused of

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<v Speaker 2>a heinous crime. Another horrific tragedy for two of us

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 2>in children by the hands of a criminal illegal. This

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<v Speaker 2>monster should never have been in our country in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place. Tricia McLaughlin said, these are the victims President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's secretary nome Tom Homan are fighting for, the fighting

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<v Speaker 2>for and the media and the sanctuary politicians ignore happening

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<v Speaker 2>every single day. You know, we rightly are paying attention

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<v Speaker 2>to Savannah Guthrie's mom, But nobody knows the names of

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<v Speaker 2>the people on an average weekend shot and shot and

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<v Speaker 2>killed in New York City, San Francisco, Chicago, Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know their names. It's just so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, trucking apparently became a hot spot for illegal labor

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<v Speaker 2>with lethal results, like in the case of Florida. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a license in the state of Washington, got

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<v Speaker 2>a license in the state of California, but couldn't read

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<v Speaker 2>English and couldn't read road signs, ended up killing three people.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've had numerous instances like this one. Just last

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<v Speaker 2>week we talked about unbelievable, but Democrats won New Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats slamming the dangerous questioning of foreign funding behind ICE.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Andy Kim of New Jersey lamenting during a hearing

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<v Speaker 2>on Capitol Hill that allegations about foreign funding and coordination

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<v Speaker 2>among anti ICE agitators are delegitimizing people's justified anger and fear.

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<v Speaker 2>Why shouldn't we know who's funding these protests that are

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<v Speaker 2>endangering the lives of the men and women that are

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<v Speaker 2>risking their lives and taking away their element of surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>making their job even harder and more dangerous. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>arresting the murderers and the cartel members and gang members

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<v Speaker 2>and rapists and child molesters and other violent criminals you

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<v Speaker 2>know why, and known terrorists in the country anyway. Eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and ninety four one. Shawn is a number if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be a part of the program Nancy Grace.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back then Bill O'Reilly