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Speaker 4: All right, it's a heavy workday here, not only out
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Speaker 4: five minutes on mix Shots.
Speaker 5: It's going to be warm this weekend.
Speaker 2: It is. That's what I was looking at Weather Channel.
Speaker 5: What's going on man and Sunday.
Speaker 4: Probably too, think of our meteorologists said ninety five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, hot man in the nineties.
Speaker 6: Yeah, ooh, ninety seven ninety seven guys ninety seven on Sunday, Yes,
Speaker 6: did you lose?
Speaker 4: I think that roof's going to be closed.
Speaker 5: Oh, speaking of that, did you listen to Jerry on Tuesday?
Speaker 5: I did not when he was on the fan. Uh
Speaker 5: huh and uh near the end, I forgot who said it.
Speaker 5: He goes, Oh, by the way, we got a tweet
Speaker 5: here from Brian brought us and he wanted to know
Speaker 5: if you might keep the the roof offman, because it's
Speaker 5: supposed to be warm and it might affect the team
Speaker 5: from the north, might slow them down. Jerry goes, yeah,
Speaker 5: he just needs to go and watch a little more film.
Speaker 2: They have not been stopped by weather.
Speaker 5: And I was thinking, and I was thinking, what's he
Speaker 5: talking about? They just had practiced what was it last week?
Speaker 5: Guys had to leave because they were dehydrated.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 5: That's right, you're going to ruin your own team, right right.
Speaker 6: We've done that before the Philadelphia game, the Pickle Juice game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've done that with Mike Zimmer's debut as the
Speaker 5: defensive coordinator, and he.
Speaker 4: Got things straightened out. It took him a couple of
Speaker 4: years because of talent, yes, and but they became the
Speaker 4: number one defense in the league by two thousand three,
Speaker 4: and he got things now that you think about it,
Speaker 4: he got things straightened out on this defense.
Speaker 2: So far, so good.
Speaker 5: We're going to find out so far. As a matter
Speaker 5: of fact, this is the Litmus. As a matter of.
Speaker 2: Fact, every week is living every week.
Speaker 5: I said that. I guess I say that too much.
Speaker 5: We're going to find out because when I was entering
Speaker 5: got off the but I think it was getting off
Speaker 5: the bus and we were going into the stadium and
Speaker 5: the fans are on the outside of the gate, and
Speaker 5: somebody yells out, hey, Mickey, we're gonna find out. I said, glad.
Speaker 2: Somebody was, So that's your things, right.
Speaker 5: Yes, Well, I mean if you look at how well
Speaker 5: they've run the ball, averaging one hundred and fifty one
Speaker 5: yards a game, and with two running two running running
Speaker 5: back by committee Premieer Gibbs uh. And they have a
Speaker 5: note here in their weekly release that they those two
Speaker 5: running backs have played together sixteen games and they are
Speaker 5: seven and one when each scores a touchdown in the
Speaker 5: same game, and it's the second most combined touchdowns in
Speaker 5: a game in Lions history. For those guys.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Last year they combined for nineteen hundred and sixty rushing
Speaker 4: yards and four hundred and thirty three receiving yards and
Speaker 4: twenty three touchdowns. This year, they have combined from scrimmage
Speaker 4: seven hundred and twenty six yards and eight touchdowns in
Speaker 4: four games. So they are averaging whatever the average is
Speaker 4: on that, which I'll have to have a calculator, nearly
Speaker 4: well over one hundred and fifty yards, as you mentioned,
Speaker 4: and then they're averaging two touchdowns a game this year.
Speaker 5: Between them, they've got seven totally.
Speaker 4: Eight with the receiving touchdown.
Speaker 5: With the receiving, seven rushing, and each guy is over
Speaker 5: two hundred and seventy yards rushing. Gibbs two eighty five,
Speaker 5: Montgomery two seven do one, So they're averaging for seven
Speaker 5: a carry. So we're going to find out if they've
Speaker 5: somewhat slowed down opponents running game, even though they've got
Speaker 5: to use backups at defensive end once again.
Speaker 2: So and.
Speaker 5: Uh Zimmer pointed it out on Monday. He goes, well,
Speaker 5: when they say, well you've kind of figured this out,
Speaker 5: he goes, well, here comes the big test, and I
Speaker 5: think he's awfully accurate about that.
Speaker 4: So how many people does it take to form a committee.
Speaker 4: You're a running back by committee, could be a committee,
Speaker 4: and that's.
Speaker 6: Three three okay, minimum two is not committee.
Speaker 5: Way way the Libs going.
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, so they don't have a running back by committee.
Speaker 5: No, they've got a starting running back.
Speaker 2: Now the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, I was talking about the line.
Speaker 5: I know, the committee thing committee to the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: That's not the Cowboys. We don't have a committee.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, but they've got it back in there. They've
Speaker 5: got they've got two guys that can run the football.
Speaker 5: And it's not like, well we've got to figure out
Speaker 5: which to do.
Speaker 4: We know they do committees really work?
Speaker 6: Committees it has okay, yeah, I mean running I mean by.
Speaker 4: College playoff committee doesn't work.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, not every committee.
Speaker 2: Works out there, that's what he asked. Okay, well not every.
Speaker 5: Committing business committees don't work. That's too many people trying
Speaker 5: to make it.
Speaker 4: That's right. Someone's got to emerge as a leaders, right,
Speaker 4: that's exactly Rico is emerging as a leader.
Speaker 5: Look how close there snaps are too. Montgomery's got sixty
Speaker 5: three and Gibbs has got fifty four, and they don't
Speaker 5: neither running back. No, no, I mean that's for four games.
Speaker 5: That's their snaps this season. I mean the number of carries.
Speaker 5: Sorry I said snaps. Sorry, yeah, yeah, carries.
Speaker 4: Carries.
Speaker 5: They don't need Jarrett Golf to run. He's got eight.
Speaker 5: That's probably out.
Speaker 2: Of he's a good receiver.
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: I catch you.
Speaker 4: St Brown touchdown pass.
Speaker 2: The throw was perfectly timed.
Speaker 6: I think he turned and through it before he even looked,
Speaker 6: and that really he.
Speaker 4: Threw him open.
Speaker 2: He threw him over.
Speaker 6: That's so true because the linebacker wasn't really that far behind.
Speaker 6: If he waits another tick, linebacker may have been able
Speaker 6: to kind of just wave his arms or whatever. But no,
Speaker 6: it made it to what was a perfect pass to
Speaker 6: whether the defender had no shot.
Speaker 5: Saint Brown's got a one thirty five point four quarterback rating.
Speaker 2: Is that perfect one for one? No, it's perfect one.
Speaker 5: One fifty eight three. He was one fifty five something
Speaker 5: because if he had one more completion the yard first.
Speaker 4: So he was eighteen for eighteen in his last game,
Speaker 4: and that wasn't.
Speaker 5: Perfect, right, But if you added Brown Brown one for
Speaker 5: one for seven yards as a team, they were perfect.
Speaker 5: Oh that's how close he was to pect.
Speaker 6: So it has to not just be another completion before
Speaker 6: ya yaws, yes, yes.
Speaker 5: And no interceptions and a touchdown.
Speaker 2: And a test. Right.
Speaker 6: So if Golf would have thrown one more pass for
Speaker 6: seven yards and it wasn't.
Speaker 5: A touchdown and it was a touchdown and it wasn't
Speaker 5: a touch it wasn't he probably had been a little
Speaker 5: bit short.
Speaker 4: So we've got a matchup on Sunday of two quarterbacks
Speaker 4: from the same draft. Okay, Jared Goff was the number
Speaker 4: one overall pick in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 5: We forget that, remember because he switched to.
Speaker 4: Jack Prescott was the number one, thirty five overall pick.
Speaker 4: Dak was the eighth quarterback taken in that twenty sixteen draft.
Speaker 4: Do you have any idea who the that' did a
Speaker 4: little trivia question.
Speaker 5: He's the only one that is still on the same team.
Speaker 4: He was, That's right, And that was even a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago, that was his status. Yeah, So do
Speaker 4: remember that draft. Golf was the number one overall pick
Speaker 4: and Carson Wentz was the number two pick of the Eagles.
Speaker 4: Where's Wentz now in position to get another to get
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl ring, another one for.
Speaker 5: Back in Kansas, Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, boy he fell up here, good man? All right?
Speaker 4: Who was the third quarterback taken in that draft? A
Speaker 4: first rounder?
Speaker 5: Gosh, I knew all these like it run number fifteen
Speaker 5: or something.
Speaker 4: He went number twenty six overall on the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4: Oh it was Paxton.
Speaker 5: Paxton who was the guy the Cowboys were thinking was
Speaker 5: trading back up into the.
Speaker 4: Past, right, Paxton Lynch out of Memphis?
Speaker 2: Ye, b yeah, big up? Yeah? Where is he now? Uh?
Speaker 5: He's in the us FL. No, but he was playing
Speaker 5: in one of those sub leagues, maybe Canada or something
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 4: All right, So and there was here's a better one. Yes,
Speaker 4: there's no way. Well you didn't get Paxton Lynch. Who's
Speaker 4: the who is the fourth quarterback taken in that draft?
Speaker 4: It was in the second round, fifty one overall.
Speaker 2: Give me a team.
Speaker 4: Well, I kind of figure out what he drafted. Let
Speaker 4: me go look through this fifty one over he's out
Speaker 4: of Penn State. Uh, he was drafted by the Jets,
Speaker 4: of course, the Jets.
Speaker 5: You got me.
Speaker 4: Chris Chris Christian Hackenberg.
Speaker 2: Wow, and.
Speaker 5: There's the one more then?
Speaker 4: Okay, in the third round, the next quarterback taken the
Speaker 4: fifth overall, he uh, was the starting quarterback of the
Speaker 4: New England Patriots until yesterday, Jacob Jacoby Brussette. And was
Speaker 4: there one more next until yesterday? The sixth? One three overall?
Speaker 5: This uh drafts going to start?
Speaker 4: Drafted by the Cleveland Browns out of the USC.
Speaker 5: This is the other quarterback the Cowboys were trying to
Speaker 5: trade up to get.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's not Cody Kessler. Oh it's Kessler. Yeah,
Speaker 4: one hundred was the other quarterback?
Speaker 2: State? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Who was the seventh quarterback taken in that draft out
Speaker 4: of Michigan State? Taken by the Oakland Raiders, Connor Cook?
Speaker 2: That was it? Yeah?
Speaker 6: And then guys because they're quarterbacks, well because any of
Speaker 6: them setting the world on fire as in college. Why
Speaker 6: are they picking these guys in the first round? Yeah,
Speaker 6: let's was yes, Memphis, Yes, Memphis.
Speaker 2: He was pretty good.
Speaker 6: But all these other guys, I'm sorry, I've never heard
Speaker 6: of them.
Speaker 2: They sound like guys just waiting to be replaced.
Speaker 5: Well, they all got replaced, just like the rest of us.
Speaker 6: Are.
Speaker 4: So out of that draft.
Speaker 2: At least we grew up a little bit before we
Speaker 2: got there.
Speaker 4: Were there were fifteen quarterbacks taken in the twenty sixteen draft.
Speaker 4: And one, two, three, four, five, six of them are
Speaker 4: still in the NFL. Okay Golf and wentz Jacoby Burussett,
Speaker 4: who is back with the team that drafted even New
Speaker 4: England Okay Dak And then late in the draft, Brandon
Speaker 4: Allen was taken. He's still in the league as a
Speaker 4: backup quarterback in San Francisco, And Jeff Driscoll is a
Speaker 4: backup quarterback in Washington. So that's it from that draft.
Speaker 4: So if you're going to redraft twenty sixteen, who would
Speaker 4: be the number one and number two number two players
Speaker 4: taking that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would definitely be those two. And I know
Speaker 2: who I wouldn't draft all those other guys.
Speaker 4: And by the way, Joey Bosa was the third pick
Speaker 4: in that draft and Zeke was the fourth, followed by
Speaker 4: Jaylen Ramsey.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 5: Where did Driscoll go?
Speaker 4: Drift Scoll was drafted by No, I'm in college. Oh
Speaker 4: he started at Florida and then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember doing a story on him from the
Speaker 5: Senior Bowl. Yeah he was pretty sharp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was drafted by San Francisco. Yeah, so interesting.
Speaker 5: So drafting quarterbacks is not an exact science, but.
Speaker 4: Telling also leads to our pre pre pod Everson and
Speaker 4: I were conducting a pre podcast podcast as we were
Speaker 4: watching the quarterback stretch on the field, and then Mickey said,
Speaker 4: we're about to start.
Speaker 2: He asked the question, don't we still start at noon?
Speaker 4: But I was just comment concerned, But I was just
Speaker 4: commenting to Everson. Just watching Dak even warm up, even
Speaker 4: even in stretching. He does everything the right way. He
Speaker 4: does everything with an assertiveness with.
Speaker 2: Yes and.
Speaker 4: Is stretching the hip movements and so forth, which is
Speaker 4: a product of the work he's done with his trainers,
Speaker 4: you know, over the years, and just comparing him with
Speaker 4: other players, even on this team, I'm like, it's not
Speaker 4: it's not an accident that Dak Prescott has become what
Speaker 4: he is becoming. It's been something.
Speaker 6: It's been intentional what he's done, attention to detail exactly,
Speaker 6: not just on the field, but off the field.
Speaker 4: His leg kicks are higher than others.
Speaker 2: You know, well, I mean we talked, you talked about it.
Speaker 6: I mean he's you know, exhibited a little some injuries,
Speaker 6: you know, sore on this because he's the only one
Speaker 6: in that line that has played. Because we're talking about
Speaker 6: the quarterbacks, we're watching quarterbacks only, so you know a
Speaker 6: lot more soreness to work out number one.
Speaker 2: That's just a necessity.
Speaker 6: But once again, the way he did it as methodically
Speaker 6: as he does it. I talked about how okay it's
Speaker 6: you talked about how good it was for just him
Speaker 6: as an individual. I talked about how it shows the
Speaker 6: other guys how to do it, just.
Speaker 2: By him being dogged in his uh in all the habits. Yes,
Speaker 2: and and you.
Speaker 6: Know, okay, if you if you're watching talking about these
Speaker 6: other guys. If you're watching, then this is how to
Speaker 6: do it. If you're not watching, I'm still going to
Speaker 6: be here doing it the same way every time.
Speaker 5: And even some of the drills in training camp, especially
Speaker 5: before they kind of progressed and bought this net now
Speaker 5: to throw the ball into, like they're trying to throw
Speaker 5: it in a bucket from twenty thirty yards away. They've
Speaker 5: got nets now. But they start doing that, and they're
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks are competing like it ain't just jacking around.
Speaker 5: Well let's see if this will go right there. They're
Speaker 5: keeping they're keeping score to the point I got a
Speaker 5: feeling they might have had something on the line extra
Speaker 5: to see who won that day.
Speaker 4: But what I mentioned to Everson and Mickey prior to
Speaker 4: the show. Just watching Dak, it reminded me of when
Speaker 4: I used to watch Nolan Ryan as a forty five
Speaker 4: year old at Rangers spring training in Port Charlotte, Florida,
Speaker 4: back in the early nineties, where his his workout route
Speaker 4: was far beyond what any of the other players on
Speaker 4: the team were doing, and he would actually back then
Speaker 4: the media. The Rangers weight room basically was an entry
Speaker 4: hall that from the clubhouse out to the playing field,
Speaker 4: and so we as media members who actually walked through
Speaker 4: the weight room to get to the field, and then
Speaker 4: in the clubhouse they had incline benches in the in
Speaker 4: the clubhouse or the medicine ball, and I remember Nolan
Speaker 4: having to beg his teammates who were twice as young
Speaker 4: as I mean, he was forty five and he was
Speaker 4: a twenty three year old in there and he said, hey,
Speaker 4: will you throw the medicine ball with me to get
Speaker 4: his workout in. But that kind of stuff, there's a
Speaker 4: reason that Nolan Ryan was able to play twenty five
Speaker 4: years and there.
Speaker 6: Was a reason that at forty five, Nolan Ryan needs
Speaker 6: to have that routine once again.
Speaker 4: The same thing Dak Prescott is he's now in his thirties, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: but this guy's forty five, that's right.
Speaker 6: So you can imagine all the things that he's got
Speaker 6: to get out of way just to warm up every
Speaker 6: part of his body just for practice. We're not even
Speaker 6: talking about the game, like we're talking about practice.
Speaker 5: Is uh Port Charlotte still on the map?
Speaker 2: That way?
Speaker 5: It was Charlotte, It was that's on the Charlotte was right.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 6: Yes, by the way, I was going to reach out
Speaker 6: to all of those in the state.
Speaker 5: Did you see what happened to drop a can of Yeah? Man,
Speaker 5: holy Kyle. And they were using that as a staging
Speaker 5: center for all the workers.
Speaker 2: That was That was a disaster.
Speaker 5: They had the cots in there for those people to
Speaker 5: sleep on.
Speaker 2: No, didn't happen.
Speaker 5: Unbelievable. Off, Well, that's that stadium needed to be replaced.
Speaker 6: Obviously it didn't help. It didn't help. But matter of fact,
Speaker 6: you went in there to get even more injured.
Speaker 5: The crazy thing is when I tourd see it ed
Speaker 5: led last night, Cooper Anderson was on the scene in
Speaker 5: the rain for CNN doing weather and you know, like
Speaker 5: Jim can't Torri does, Yeah, you know, and he's.
Speaker 2: Getting best the silliest thing in the world.
Speaker 5: Well, he's getting blown all over the place, and at
Speaker 5: one point he goes, uh, I think we need to
Speaker 5: relocate it. I've got water up to my knees right now.
Speaker 5: It's like, why are you in that situation?
Speaker 2: A ways do this?
Speaker 6: I don't know why the weather man have to go
Speaker 6: out there and show you how bad it is without
Speaker 6: you being out there this morning.
Speaker 2: Why do they do that? You know why they do it?
Speaker 4: Why so that y'all will talk about it on.
Speaker 6: Well, I guess no bad publicity. How they say it,
Speaker 6: all publicity is good because right.
Speaker 2: Now, as far as that's why they do it.
Speaker 4: And I'm sorry, people are talking about it all over
Speaker 4: the country.
Speaker 5: He's a weather man, he's a news guy that's going
Speaker 5: out that's crazy. Well, do you know what the funny
Speaker 5: thing was? And then when I was watching one of
Speaker 5: the late night talk shows he was the guest and
Speaker 5: I'm going, wait, wait a minute, he was just getting drowned.
Speaker 5: It was I didn't realize it.
Speaker 2: It was a rerun.
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Speaker 4: All right, Mickey, you were in attendance for the Mike
Speaker 4: McCarthy press conference. I was, And now you're scrambling to
Speaker 4: find your notes. That's right. What do we know?
Speaker 5: So he seems pretty optimistic that Doroan Bland's going to
Speaker 5: be ready to go.
Speaker 4: I heard that he was less than he was less
Speaker 4: than revealing on his taping of his Coaches show.
Speaker 5: He wouldn't normally ask him about he didn't give you
Speaker 5: the school.
Speaker 4: Injury stuff, but I did say at the end of
Speaker 4: one of the segments, I said, it's going to be
Speaker 4: nice that sometime really soon, Doron Bland and Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 4: and Jordan Lewis are going to be on the field
Speaker 4: at the same time. And he just said, well, we
Speaker 4: still have to see what happened in practice this week.
Speaker 4: When did you tape this morning?
Speaker 5: Oh, this morning before the press conference. Well, he did
Speaker 5: say he looked good and he was listed as fully
Speaker 5: practicing yesterday.
Speaker 4: He didn't want to reveal to the Lion, but.
Speaker 6: He said today I don't think he wanted to tell
Speaker 6: you Bill that was a personal thing.
Speaker 5: He said today will be the real test for him,
Speaker 5: meaning they're in pads, so they'll see how he does.
Speaker 5: He did say that Carson, Kaitlin Carson would start with
Speaker 5: the rehab group. So that didn't sound encouraging.
Speaker 6: And I heard you talk about that this morning. Good job,
Speaker 6: by the way, And so he talked about the shoulder right, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it was a shouldering.
Speaker 2: Way you heard him talk about what I heard him
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 6: Where did you hear him on the when he was
Speaker 6: driving in I heard him.
Speaker 4: Where did you hear him?
Speaker 2: It was on I don't want to mix up the station, do.
Speaker 5: You have a segment on there eleven forty.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was like, who is this bomb?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But then I listen. That's that's my bull.
Speaker 4: You can listen to Mickey on one O five to
Speaker 4: three the Fan at eleven forty every day.
Speaker 5: No, just on Thursday.
Speaker 6: Just just on Thursday, eleven o'clock on otherwise I co
Speaker 6: otherwise I come in talking trash.
Speaker 2: Well. He talked about the shoulder.
Speaker 5: Of cars Carson and for Kendricks. To remember Kendricks had
Speaker 5: a calf and a shoulder.
Speaker 2: But Kendricks is closer to playing well.
Speaker 5: He did not practice, so we'll see where he is today.
Speaker 6: We need him well as a dB. How bad is
Speaker 6: the shoulder for Carson?
Speaker 5: He said, somebody got an interview and he said he
Speaker 5: needed his range of motion needed to improve to throw well,
Speaker 5: to put your arm up in the air. Well once
Speaker 5: you got to reach.
Speaker 2: Jude, you gotta play one shoulder as.
Speaker 5: A one shoulders.
Speaker 6: No, it's one shoulder as a defensive back, you know,
Speaker 6: especially as a cornerback.
Speaker 5: Oh well he'll play. I'm sure they're the ones telling them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ready, man, I mean I've seen many safeties and corners.
Speaker 2: I did it myself. If you hurt one shoulder, then
Speaker 2: do just use the other shoulder. And as long as
Speaker 2: it's nothing too serious. That's why I asked, how serious
Speaker 2: is it? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well I was serious enough to miss two games if
Speaker 5: you think about it. Guyon was practicing, he said he
Speaker 5: was a full Partitioner said full right. But if i'm them,
Speaker 5: and I think I told Bill yesterday, I'm still working
Speaker 5: Tyler Smith just at left tackle and he's a young
Speaker 5: and make sure you give Bass some snaps because what
Speaker 5: they do normally Wednesday, Zach Martin doesn't get he doesn't participate.
Speaker 5: Basically he's there, but it's a rest day. So Bass
Speaker 5: gets the snaps at right guard. So you know, i'd
Speaker 5: have those two guys ready to go left tackle, left
Speaker 5: guard just in case.
Speaker 6: I heard my shoulder against the Cowboys. When I was
Speaker 6: with the Giants, they had me playing safety. Oh my god,
Speaker 6: I hated it.
Speaker 5: Do you have to make some tackles?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 6: One of them was against Alvin Harper. Troy Aigman throws
Speaker 6: a dime on that skinny post. He loft it throw
Speaker 6: and I was waiting on it. I thought I had it.
Speaker 6: I mean it was like right there, but uh, past
Speaker 6: was so good. Harper caught it first and we collided simultaneously.
Speaker 6: As he caught it, I thought I had it, that's
Speaker 6: how close it was. And when we hit, I somehow
Speaker 6: hit him in his toward his neck. He didn't play
Speaker 6: for the next two weeks after him Oh a bump
Speaker 6: in his neck somewhere, and my shoulder was just gone.
Speaker 2: It was at home, it was in Dallas. So there's
Speaker 2: no way I'm gonna come out.
Speaker 5: Of the game, No.
Speaker 2: Way, dude.
Speaker 6: I almost went down and they teased me. I remember
Speaker 6: about that. I almost went down and stayed up. But
Speaker 6: we just switched out.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't a nerve thing. It was hurt, no something.
Speaker 6: I heard something. I can't feel it to this day,
Speaker 6: I can't feel it. It's it's nothing there. I mean
Speaker 6: it's there, but you can't feel it. And so we
Speaker 6: me and my guidance, we just switched sides because it's
Speaker 6: the shoulder. That's why I was asking how serious it's injury.
Speaker 6: You're a DV.
Speaker 2: He's a corner.
Speaker 6: He's not gonna be He made a lot of tackles,
Speaker 6: of course, but you know, man, it's a shoulder. You know,
Speaker 6: my legs are what I need I don't know. That's
Speaker 6: why I was just kind of figure out how bad
Speaker 6: is it? I mean, I guess I should have done
Speaker 6: better by rehabbing or whatever, but I never did anything
Speaker 6: to it. That's why in the shape is in now.
Speaker 6: But at that time you just have the ability to
Speaker 6: just say, you know what, I'm going to stay in
Speaker 6: the game and just switch sides. So I was just
Speaker 6: thinking as a dB, and is it more like the
Speaker 6: dB from last year that we just lost the veteran
Speaker 6: from Gilmore.
Speaker 5: Interception on? Ye?
Speaker 2: About that? So how is it bad?
Speaker 5: I don't think he needs surgery? No, I think I
Speaker 5: think he's you know what he's talking about, and you got, well,
Speaker 5: here's the other thing. You got the buy coming up
Speaker 5: and is playing so you know they can always elevate him.
Speaker 5: I think he's got one more left if I and
Speaker 5: I'm sure they want to get him on the fifty
Speaker 5: three and just as just me, but I would think
Speaker 5: Andrew Booth beware.
Speaker 4: So how many how many plays? How many snaps do
Speaker 4: you think Deron Bland, Trayvon Diggs and Jordan Lewis have
Speaker 4: played together this year in their career ever?
Speaker 5: For I'm sure you got an answer for me zero. Well,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: For sure what the answer is because I didn't go
Speaker 4: back and look at the game tape. But the only
Speaker 4: game where they all three played was Gather together this year. No,
Speaker 4: it hadn't happened this year because Blande's been out year
Speaker 4: and so and then Diggs after the second game last year,
Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis two years again, Jordan Lewis did Diggs takes
Speaker 4: last year?
Speaker 5: I take it, Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: So and Jordan Lewis did not play the season opener
Speaker 4: last year against the Giants. So the second game of
Speaker 4: the year last year, the Jets game, is the only
Speaker 4: game that I've figured out that all three of them
Speaker 4: were played in that game, and Diggs had forty seven
Speaker 4: snaps in that game, Bland had twenty six snaps and
Speaker 4: Lewis had ten snaps.
Speaker 5: So this is Bland's third year, but.
Speaker 4: He didn't play. He didn't He didn't play on defense
Speaker 4: until Lewis got hurt in the sixth game of the
Speaker 4: two That's when Bland replaced Jordan Lewis as the slot corner.
Speaker 5: Because of that, I picked the rest of these was
Speaker 5: the backup.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a backup, and so he's just playing special
Speaker 4: teams up until the Lewis injury.
Speaker 5: And then he went into the slot. And then if
Speaker 5: I remember correctly, Anthony Brown got hurt and bland when.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, and I want to say maybe he
Speaker 4: was with Carolina earlier this year and he got released Diddy, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's a free agent.
Speaker 5: But last year he was with San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for a little bit. But anyway, year, as I
Speaker 4: can tell, the Jets game is the only time and
Speaker 4: maybe for ten snaps, and I'm not even sure that
Speaker 4: they were all on the same on the field at
Speaker 4: the same time. For Jordan Lewis's ten snaps in that game,
Speaker 4: that would not.
Speaker 5: That they were all if they were in a dining.
Speaker 4: Package or something, because Lewis was just coming back from injury.
Speaker 4: That was his first game back from injury.
Speaker 5: That's a good point like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm Cornerban, I'm writing columns for you, Mickey.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a mix shot.
Speaker 4: There you go, all right, We continue with more mix
Speaker 4: shots in just a moment.
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Speaker 5: Get there another Oklahoma quarterback going to start this week?
Speaker 4: Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 5: That would make how many?
Speaker 4: Well you got Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts and
Speaker 4: Spencer Rattler four.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 4: And and Caleb Williams makes five?
Speaker 5: Que quarterback?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 6: Yeah, how many long way from running back?
Speaker 2: You? How many of you finished?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Baker and Kyler did and that's it.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: Jalen that's right because he left Alabama.
Speaker 4: Okay, so those are all Lincoln Riley coached quarterbacks. If
Speaker 4: you could just recruit a defensive player, you might do something.
Speaker 5: He says with.
Speaker 2: Cut he dropped into the comment box.
Speaker 4: If he didn't just leave coupboards completely bare, heaves when
Speaker 4: he bolts in the still of the night.
Speaker 5: Brian Jones, Brian Jones was talking about the game and they.
Speaker 4: Said something about I love Brian Jones being Texas Longhorn
Speaker 4: Brian House.
Speaker 5: And he said something to this and I can't if
Speaker 5: he was talking about this coming game and what the
Speaker 5: temperature was going to be, and he goes, it's hot
Speaker 5: as Africa.
Speaker 2: That's hot. Hot is hot.
Speaker 4: Brian Jones. I know Brian Jones since he was a
Speaker 4: junior in high school at Dunbar Strugs High School in Lubbock, Texas,
Speaker 4: and I interviewed him and he's I said, what do
Speaker 4: you want to be after football? And he said, I
Speaker 4: want to be a sportscaster. I want your job. Well,
Speaker 4: he went far beyond my job working for CBS.
Speaker 5: He's pretty darn funny.
Speaker 4: And I worked with him at West Brian John Jones,
Speaker 4: who played in the league with the Saints linebacker, but
Speaker 4: he played at Texas and he got Tommy Nobles is
Speaker 4: number sixty when he transferred from UCLA to Texas.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, but he's a he's a great guy and we
Speaker 4: go back and forth and he'll trash at each other.
Speaker 5: He'll say just about and that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing he's been able to stay on.
Speaker 5: Especially television.
Speaker 2: He's the guy.
Speaker 4: Now he's got you can get away with that on podcast.
Speaker 4: He's on college football on there.
Speaker 2: Oh the u c l A.
Speaker 4: He went to UCLA, but he went up to Texas. Brian, Brian,
Speaker 4: he's got the big white beer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a lot of Barkley in him as
Speaker 4: far as.
Speaker 2: His Yeah, he's good. He's always good.
Speaker 4: We did we did a college football show for a
Speaker 4: couple of years together twenty years ago about at Fox
Speaker 4: Sports Southwest, and it was so much fun.
Speaker 2: Now he's good.
Speaker 4: It was just because I'm the O you guy, he's
Speaker 4: a Texas guy. Because this would be on there and
Speaker 4: UH would run circles around. I'd have to defend you.
Speaker 5: It's almost must listening every Thursday. He's got a segment
Speaker 5: on the Ticket, which.
Speaker 6: I always thought he was very clever. I just didn't
Speaker 6: know that it was out there that he was.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and he's he's like, it's like I got
Speaker 4: a bunch of guys sitting on barstools talking about college football.
Speaker 2: I have to check.
Speaker 4: That's great stuff.
Speaker 2: He's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So tell me tell me more, Mickey,
Speaker 4: tell me more.
Speaker 5: What else do we got here?
Speaker 4: You're worried about Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 5: Yes, very much so, Yeah, man, think about the guys
Speaker 5: that Cowboys have had to play.
Speaker 4: You just went from t J. Watt to Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 5: Well, they started with Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's pretty good.
Speaker 2: We's so far, we've.
Speaker 5: Held Odeau, We've held home. What is New Orleans? Said
Speaker 5: Cam Cam Jordan Jordan's.
Speaker 4: And then you had Baltimore too. They've always had guys.
Speaker 5: Oh way was the Yeah, but they had another guy
Speaker 5: that was one of the sack leaders.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Calvnoy, that's it.
Speaker 2: How do you think we fed? How do you think
Speaker 2: we fed?
Speaker 5: When you overall better?
Speaker 4: How's Tyler Goyton been faring? Everson tough?
Speaker 2: He's fighting. He's a fighter.
Speaker 6: That's what I like about He never gives up when
Speaker 6: he gets beat. It's because he's overly aggressive.
Speaker 2: T J.
Speaker 5: Watt made plays, but he didn't ruin the offense.
Speaker 4: But well, and the other thing. The difference on what
Speaker 4: in Hutchinson is what line up virtually all the time
Speaker 4: on the left at left defensive end, right side of
Speaker 4: the Cowboys offense. So he was Terrence Steele was having
Speaker 4: to deal.
Speaker 5: With him, but he he needed help.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they moved Hutchinson around.
Speaker 5: Right so he'll be if got high, high motor. Whoever's
Speaker 5: on the left tackle, he'll be over there. And yeah,
Speaker 5: McCarthy was talking about him.
Speaker 6: I don't think I don't think we've lost any games
Speaker 6: because of those particular positions.
Speaker 5: Well do you think made it more difficult?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah we overcame.
Speaker 5: And you just that's one of the reasons why they
Speaker 5: give Hunter lip Key the number of snaps he gets.
Speaker 5: It's not just to block for the running game. It's
Speaker 5: to make sure doing some chipping, chipping, got to do
Speaker 5: some chipping. Uh, and they've got to be able to
Speaker 5: because he can single handedly ruin your offense. I mean,
Speaker 5: he's leading the league right now. Six and a half
Speaker 5: snaps he's got. He had twenty five game four and
Speaker 5: a half, four and a half against who Tampa Bay?
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay, So they must have found a weak spot.
Speaker 4: Well that means he only has two in the other
Speaker 4: three games, So yeah, what's the big deal?
Speaker 2: That sounds right?
Speaker 4: And he had won. Adrian Claiborne Day had six.
Speaker 5: No, he had a career day because he ended up
Speaker 5: getting paid the next year from what he did.
Speaker 2: To the Cowboys game. Falcons, right, yeah, Falcons.
Speaker 4: Who's the tackle for the Cowboys quickly Mackey forgets Chaz Green.
Speaker 5: I just said it the other day.
Speaker 2: Yes, someone someone that makes forget.
Speaker 5: But you know what, they he didn't play the whole game.
Speaker 5: They finally thought, oh, we should get him out of there,
Speaker 5: and they brought in someone else, and the guy didn't
Speaker 5: do it. Yeah, didn't do any better whatsoever. They were
Speaker 5: just convinced that it was going to get better and
Speaker 5: it only got worse and they lost the game because
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 4: Okay, next up on your legal pad. You're looking at
Speaker 4: your legal pad. I want to make sure you got
Speaker 4: time here. We got two minutes left here.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't I don't think we've we spent
Speaker 5: enough time on the Marvin overshown. He is now one
Speaker 5: of your starting linebackers. And it's not just Nickel. He's
Speaker 5: out there on the field. I think he played one
Speaker 5: hundred percent of the snaps this last game.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: I had my Playboy play here and played well. By
Speaker 5: the way, it wasn't like diminishing returns because he played.
Speaker 4: More fifty eight snaps and Kendrick said fifty eight snaps
Speaker 4: and Diggs had fifty eight snaps. That's one hundred percent
Speaker 4: of the snaps.
Speaker 2: Come on the back to represent maybe.
Speaker 5: So he has played awfully, awfully well, and I mean
Speaker 5: for all intensive purposes. He's a rookie. I know it's
Speaker 5: his second year, but he spent the first year on
Speaker 5: injured reserve, and you see him kind of diagnosing everything
Speaker 5: and he was still just highly pissed at himself for
Speaker 5: not picking off the ball at the end of the game.
Speaker 6: Well, do you see how he plays? He plays smart,
Speaker 6: but with aggression. That's what I like about it. He
Speaker 6: doesn't You can tell he's not burdened by the thought
Speaker 6: process right. That part is he's got down Now he's
Speaker 6: able to be more aggressive coming off of blocks, knowing
Speaker 6: where his defender is going to be.
Speaker 2: His fellow defender is going to be the.
Speaker 6: Fact that they're playing more coordinated defense, and may have
Speaker 6: show him that in the last two weeks. Regardless of
Speaker 6: who you play, play more coordinated defense. That comes from
Speaker 6: the fact that he is so aggressive and in position.
Speaker 5: So this will be a good test on his ability
Speaker 5: to play the run. With the way Detroit.
Speaker 2: Plays, would imagine, you gotta have help.
Speaker 5: You're gonna see Leo Foo out there also another rook
Speaker 5: So think about the young guys they've got on this
Speaker 5: defense right now, you know if you uh And I
Speaker 5: was going to write about that for tomorrow, about the
Speaker 5: number of young guys they're relying on, and it's almost
Speaker 5: like you're you're stacking uh interest right now for later
Speaker 5: in the season. If you get to later, if you
Speaker 5: can survive the early part right and let the young
Speaker 5: guys get some experience, you may pay off at the end.
Speaker 5: That's kind of what they're.
Speaker 6: Going to have to make sure. And I know it's
Speaker 6: down the line. We got to make sure we take
Speaker 6: care of our division. We've got to make sure we
Speaker 6: take care of our division right Washington. They have to
Speaker 6: go down. We got to take them down. I know
Speaker 6: that's in the future. But if you're talking about staying
Speaker 6: in the race, you.
Speaker 4: Know what's funny about that? Okay, so we're sitting here
Speaker 4: a week or so ago and we're talking about this hole,
Speaker 4: this big old stretch that the that the Cowboys are
Speaker 4: about to They got to go to Pittsburgh and then
Speaker 4: they get to true, well, they had first I had
Speaker 4: to go to Giants had Pittsburgh on the road, and
Speaker 4: then you got Detroit at home, and then your hat
Speaker 4: saying Francisco and then you're at Atlanta and then Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: and then you get Houston. Well we didn't include what
Speaker 4: was next to their and that's at Washington.
Speaker 5: You got to stretch the stretch.
Speaker 4: And now you look at it right now, you look
Speaker 4: at it. And the toughest, Well this game Detroit and
Speaker 4: also at Washington. That might be the toughest game in
Speaker 4: the next eight games.
Speaker 2: It might be, might be.
Speaker 4: But then again, they played Baltimore Sunday.
Speaker 5: They got to start playing some of the teams that
Speaker 5: Cowboys have to play. Troy, so we'll we'll see about
Speaker 5: the long absolutely and and uh, Philadelphia. Oh, they got
Speaker 5: to buy this week, Thank god for them.
Speaker 2: No, they played to.
Speaker 4: Buy last week. They played, got two straight buys.
Speaker 5: Don't they have Cleveland? They're a mess.
Speaker 2: Wow, we are today long all right?
Speaker 5: That does that's it.
Speaker 4: That's it. That's right, yep. Okay, So we got a
Speaker 4: fabulous football fight song. Oh maybe we got additional fight
Speaker 4: songs to play tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Both of them. Now, both of them.
Speaker 4: Fight song Friday tomorrow, equal opportunity to show here. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're gonna be here ever since, I'll be here. Okay,
Speaker 4: very good. We got our picks to click tomorrow too,
Speaker 4: all right, so we will shout at you again tomorrow
Speaker 4: at high noon.
Speaker 2: Go Cowboys.
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