1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Ron and aiens, I always look to see where the 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: gas station's tanks are, you know, are they at the 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: low end of the lot. The tanker would show up 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and the guy would just pull the port. Today it's 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of water where harms are gonna do 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: you know? Now, imagine you know that in a modern 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: day carf whatevi see hold the Car Doctor. When it 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: gets up to a d degrees on the average engine, 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: the computer says, Hey, it's hot enough, I'm gonna cut 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: back on fuel trip. I'm gonna take off the electric choke. 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: If we can say it like that, all right, that'll 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: generate some fan mail. Alright, Ever, to go whatt you know? 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: You know, if I don't annoy somebody once a week, 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: at least I know I'm not doing my job. Welcome 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five five six, 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: and now he running, Hey, it's nine to start your 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: engines along and welcome on any of the Car Doctor 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: here at eight five five five six zero nine zero 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: zero again eight five five five six zero nine nine 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 1: zero zero here to take your calls and answer your questions, 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: whatever they might be. Car Doctor Show dot com is 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: the place to go out on the web. Car Doctor 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: Show dot Com. Of course, you can get to the podcast, 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: which is there via spreaker dot com. But go to 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: Car Doctor Show dot com, click on the link, it'll 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: take you over to spreaker and you can download, listen, 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: do what you want to your heart's content. But if 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: you want to talk to me eight five five five 34 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: six zero nine zero zero, this hour and always is 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: the best way to go. Keep in mind that we 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: are live on the network Saturday afternoons to the four 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: pm East Coast time. But regardless, if you are listening 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: on an affiliate that takes the lay broadcast UM out 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: of the eighties sum out affiliates half of them the 40 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: lay broadcaster, or other times you can you can call 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: in during Saturday two to four pm East Coast time 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: without having to hear the show. UM. You know, it's 43 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: kind of like that scene. What was that? Was that movie? 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: City slickers who remember city Slickers right with Billy Crystal, 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: and um, I can't think of the other actor's name. 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: And they're riding the horses. What was the other cause 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: you're talking to the tough guy who played the cowboy? No, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: Judge Reinhold, right, okay, and Billy Crystal and Judge Reinholder 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: or as a judge or Judge, Judge judge, and they're 50 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: riding along and um there it's it's towards the end 51 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: of the movie and they're talking about how uh you know. 52 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: Billy Crystal is trying to explain it to him and 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: he says, well, you know, I had a problem like 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: that too, but it's normal with age. And it's sort 55 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: of sounded like they were talking about something else, and 56 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: and they were actually talking about programming the v c 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: R because this is an old movie, right with the 58 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: with the videotape. And then Judge Reinhold asked Billy Crystal, 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: but you know, but if the TV is not on, 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: how can you be recording a show? And Billy Crystal 61 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: comes back to him with an answer and um uh. 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: Finally Judge Reinhold says, how do you set the clock 63 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: and that's when um, uh uh uh Bruno Kirby, right, 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: Bruno Kirby, great actor, another great actor, gone too soon 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: chases after the two of them and said, you guys 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: are driving me nuts. The cows could do this by Now. 67 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: That's what this radio show is sort of like. You 68 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: don't have to hear us to be able to talk 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: to us. Okay, A five five zero zero. You wonder 70 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: where I was going with that one, didn't you, Mikey? So? 71 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: But howd I get city slickers into the mix? So? 72 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: Great movie? I might have to go watch that that movies. 73 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: That movies. I think I saw it a couple of 74 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: years ago. I think that movie is twenty five years 75 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: old now, Um, great movie? And who does love great movie? Though? 76 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Who doesn't love Billy Crystal? Sometimes you just gotta bring 77 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: in the herd. So, and that's what we try to 78 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: do each and every week here on the Car Doctor. 79 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: We try to bring in the herd and get you 80 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the best in automotive repair information. Um, I want to 81 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: talk to you about this Volkswagen. No, come on, I'm 82 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: not gonna beat him up. I and I guess this 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: scenario could apply to to just about any car. It 84 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: seems of late. I think that I think the price 85 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: of technology has is at the tipping point where it's 86 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: pushing people to not fix the car. And I received 87 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: the letter this week and I don't have it right 88 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 1: in front of me, and I apologize, but I remember 89 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: the gist of it as it was a call or 90 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: he was he was positive, and listen, I'll take negative 91 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: criticism to positive criticism. Negative I'll take. I'll take you 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: know I'm doing something wrong, I'll listen to what you've 93 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: got to say. He wanted to point out that, you know, 94 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: when I say, spend six thousand dollars on the new 95 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: car or the used car is sometimes better than spending 96 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: thirty on on a new one, you know. And he 97 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: made some valid points with regard to um the moment, 98 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: and I just want to also say, though that it 99 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: really depends on the condition of the car. There are 100 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: some cars that are worth spending six thousand dollars on 101 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: to shape them up. There are some cars that I 102 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't spend six cents on for the match to send 103 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: him on fire. Not that I'm suggesting we do that. 104 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: He you know, there are just some cars that are 105 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: beaten tired, and you know, it's like being a cowboy 106 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: city slickers. Uh, you know, segue again, it's you know, 107 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: it's road hard, put away, wet, you want to shoot it. 108 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: It's it's done, It's it's over, and you're just you're just, 109 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: you're just peddling good money. After bed, the Volkswagon Jetta 110 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: came into the shop and it's been sort of well maintained. 111 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: It's overdue for its ninety mile service. Customer hasn't done 112 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: it yet. That was his choice. We pointed it out 113 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: a couple of times. It's got a hundred and thirty 114 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: three thousand miles on it, which look how well the 115 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: cars made right. We we didn't do the maintenance, and 116 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: yet it's still went another forty thousand miles. Check engine 117 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: lights on. It's got two fault codes. It's got an 118 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: intermittent turbo charger wastegate boost valve fault all right, which 119 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: is likely the wastegate censor itself, which I think is 120 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: like a hundred bucks. And it also had a fault 121 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: for UM if I recall correctly, EVAP, the LDP, the 122 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: leak detection pump for the EVAP system had a short 123 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: to power and I you know, ballpark he has, I said, 124 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's a seventy eight dollar apart. 125 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: It's you know, not a looted though. But I guess 126 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: it's time for me to buy a new car. And 127 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: I and I know why because the next words out 128 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: of his mouth were, you know, my wife wants to 129 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: get a new car, and you know, maybe it's time. 130 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: And the other car is four years old, and a 131 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: lot of factors come into it. You know, he he's 132 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: got kids going into college in three years, and he 133 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: wants to get the new car now to get the 134 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: payment out of the way before the kids are in college. 135 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Knowing what's you know, because college is the next college 136 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: is worse than buying a new car. Whoever thought we'd 137 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: see the day when buying a new car was cheaper 138 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: than going to college? Okay, I can't say that I 139 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: ever thought that would happen. But the check engine light 140 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: is it an indication of it's time to replace the vehicle? 141 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but a lot of people are 142 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: taking it as such. You know, one of the mistakes 143 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: we make is we don't budget for auto repair. We 144 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: budget for everything else. Okay, and it's still too often 145 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: said I can't wait to get rid of my car 146 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: payments and then my car won't cost me anything. Think 147 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: about that one, all right. That's right up there with 148 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: the news reporter that we were watching the clip before 149 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: the show today about the news reporter that that started 150 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: talking about um that she was reporting on an accident 151 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: scene I think somewhere out in California West Coast, and 152 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: she made the comment that as a result of the accident, 153 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: we tried to reach the man who died, but he 154 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: was unavailable for comment. I swear to god it's it's 155 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: I saw the video there it is. So you know, 156 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: hopefully she has a job come Monday morning. But you know, 157 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: the logic of that is right up there with I 158 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: don't want to spend any money on a car, so 159 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay it off and then I have no more. 160 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: You know, my car doesn't cost me anything else I 161 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: get it. The technology is is it costs a lot. 162 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: You know, you think about it, right in the interest 163 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: of clean air, what we've added to an automobile. And 164 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: what boggles my mind even more is, you know the 165 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: push now for electric vehicles. Recent article Paul Eisenstein, Uh, 166 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it. This hour, UM wrote a 167 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: great article it's out on NBC news dot com right 168 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: now talking about how some states are charging extra for 169 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: drivers who buy electric vehicles, and it talks about Colorado 170 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: and Yoming or charging fifty dollars a year, California added 171 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: a hundred and added one hundred, and Illinois has recently 172 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: tried to introduce a flat fee of one thousand dollars 173 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: for owners of electric vehicles. So let me get this right. 174 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: According to our politicians, we want to make a push 175 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: towards electric vehicles, but in the interm of coming up 176 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: with solution of electric vehicles that use the roads but 177 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: don't pay the gasolene text, we're now going at charge 178 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: flat fees of either at an annual basis or on 179 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: a purchase point basis, and we're gonna taxus on that end. So, 180 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, how do we come up with a reasonable 181 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: alternative where we Where are we going here? Um? It 182 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me, Um, And I don't 183 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: know in fifty dollars a year, I think I pay 184 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: more than fifty dollars a year for gas tax, you know, 185 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we paying six cents if your 186 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: car goes through a thousand gallons at six cents a gallon. 187 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: How many gowns does that make a year? Young? You do? 188 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: The myth um Pauls and Sins article talks about how 189 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: federal tax credits can be up to depending upon the vehicle, 190 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: help off set the penalty. But a now analysts say that, 191 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, even though that's contributed to surgeon demand for 192 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: products like Tesla um since they've hit the critical sales threshold. 193 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: To California car makers and centers were cut the three 194 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: seven fifty last year. And that's the other thing. And 195 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: the gentleman that I was speaking of before the centing 196 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: the literally talked about Tesla. He's a fan of electric cars, 197 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: but not necessarily Tesla. I think the electric car thing 198 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: has been misconstrued. Unfortunately, it's in the hands of people 199 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: that are trying to make profit, not save the planet necessarily. 200 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: And maybe that's a harsh statement, but I just think 201 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: there's a better way to do things, um than than 202 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: what we're actually doing, because we we haven't thought out 203 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: the electric car problem. Because it is well enough such 204 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: that now we've got states imposing fines and regulations on 205 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: purchasing cost to offset the loss of gas tax revenue. 206 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: Fifty dollars a year is not is not enough of 207 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: a gas tax revenue. It it should be. You know, 208 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: if the average driver goes fifteen thousand miles a year 209 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: in the car gets twenty miles to the gallon, do 210 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: the math, it's not fifty bucks. I don't. I pay 211 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: way more than fifty dollars a year in gas tax, 212 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: and I I just don't see it. So I'm a 213 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: great article of my polet Polizin's time mark my words. 214 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: Technology is overtaking us. And I think they're going to 215 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: rename the check engine light. It must be time to sell. 216 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: And what color do I want? Eight zero zero? The 217 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: car doctor is coming back right after this. Need advice 218 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: on how to maintaining that classic g t O. Ron 219 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: is the guy eight five five five zero nine zero zero. 220 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: Here's Ron. Let's get over and talk to Frank in Minnesota. Frank, 221 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: how can I help Hi? Just a general question for you, 222 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: iron Um. I've got a Chevy three quarter ton pick 223 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: up four L A d E tranny in that thing, 224 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: and I know there was an earlier call on transmissions. 225 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: And you know I just did this this week where 226 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: I drained the oil and changed the filter, topped it 227 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: back up with five quarts, and you know I was, 228 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: and I got add on the view come and I've 229 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: talked to a couple of mechanics about this, and no one, 230 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: of course really knows. But you know, they said, if 231 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: you have not been flushing, let's say every fifty sixty thousand's, 232 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: it may not it may not be a good idea 233 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: to do that because you may have enough sentiment build 234 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: up around the seals and stuff that if you flush this, uh, 235 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, you may end up with a leak. And 236 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: of course nobody really knows. So you know, I did 237 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: what I always do every thirty thousand miles, is I 238 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: drained a change the filter, and I top it off 239 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: with five courts. And I guess I was just looking 240 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: for your opinion on that whether a flush would have 241 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: been better to do now and then you know, again, 242 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: dropped the pan, change the filter and go on from there. 243 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: First of all, I think I think fifty six trans 244 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: flushes are probably too long if we absolutely want to 245 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: eliminate any varnish. The idea is that you know, a 246 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: transmission and automatic transmission operates on principles. If I draw 247 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: Alex with openings smaller than the eye of a needle. 248 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: So we're we're talking about absolutely positively clean fluid, no grit, 249 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: no contaminant, no no, no specs. So that being said, 250 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, if we're trying to keep it a hundred percent. 251 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: You know, listen, I know someone who owns a trans shop. 252 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: He does a fluid drop every twenty thousand miles and 253 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: he'll run the transmission to five thousand, all right. Uh, 254 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: you know he because he's you know, he's a big 255 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: believer in fluids. And he said, you know, I I 256 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: change it every twenty to twenty five before it has 257 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: the ability to break down. When it breaks down, when 258 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: it gets hot, that's when it starts to bake, and 259 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: that's when it starts to have its issues. So that 260 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: being said, if you're changing the fluid every thirty I 261 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: think that's great maintenance. I think that's probably why you've 262 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: got two miles out of that trans and there's probably 263 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: more in it. All right. Uh, you know what I do. 264 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: What I do a flush. I don't like the word flush. 265 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I like the word exchange. And you know, there's there's 266 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: different machines out there. There are machines out there that 267 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: hook into the cooler lines. There's some that increase pressure. 268 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: We actually use a machine that goes down the dipstick 269 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: to but can we can do it via the cooler lines. 270 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't. Let's say we might have done one and 271 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't thrilled with the hookup in the amount of 272 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: time it took, and I didn't see the point as 273 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: far as uh costs to do it again. But with 274 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: regard to the way we normally do it, it's a 275 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: line down the dipstick tube and it's a one for 276 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: one exchange over time. Now, if I've got an older, 277 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: higher mileage unit and I can get to the dipstick tube, 278 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: it does have a dipstick, what I'll do is I'll 279 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: for the customer the option. I'll say, listen, let's do 280 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: the five six courts first. Let's kind of get you know, 281 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: the grid out of the pan, Let's get you know, 282 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: some of the worst contaminant we can, and then let's 283 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: just put in you know, five courts is on a 284 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,239 Speaker 1: twelve court system is a little less than half of 285 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: what the unit hall olds and then bring it bring 286 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: it back in three or four or five thousand miles. 287 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: Whatever they're driving habits are maybe the next oil change. 288 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: Then you want to do a flush, we'll do a flush, 289 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: or we'll do an exchange. See I use the word 290 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: to um. You know, we'll do an exchange. And then 291 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: it's sort of a you know, it's kind of like 292 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: weaning yourself off nicotine. It's a you know, it's it's 293 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: it's a slow gradual process that that you know, it 294 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: doesn't uh um, you know, it's not a shock to 295 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: the system. Um. Okay, let me ask you a question. 296 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: You're in Minnesota, right I am. How many miles a 297 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: year do you think you go? Oh? Not? We got 298 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: a three different vehicles, so this truck maybe sees ken 299 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: thows in the year. Maybe. Okay, do you think with 300 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: this this is the this is the work truck. This 301 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: is you can throw the shovels and the rakes in 302 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: the back and you don't care about anything getting scratched. 303 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, any hard usage. Yeah, that's well, that's not 304 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: why I'm asking you think your family goes fifteen thousand 305 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: miles a year with between all three cars? Oh, certainly 306 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: opport So do you know you guys have some of 307 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: the highest gas tax in the country. Of course, Yeah, 308 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: it's Minnesota. It's Minnesota. I looked it up. You guys 309 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: have your I think you're twenty eight cents state in 310 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: eighteen cents federal your forty three cents a gallon gasoline 311 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: exercise tax. So, and they wanted to raise it another 312 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: twenty just passed legislative session, but the Republicans managed to 313 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: shut that dome. But they wanted the new governor wanted 314 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: to raise in other twenties. So there you go. So, so, 315 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: at forty three cents a gallon in fifteen thousand miles 316 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: a year, you're paying on average three sixty eight dollars 317 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: a year in gasoline tax. So the article I was 318 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: reading tells me, how does how do they come up 319 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: with charging the owner of the electric vehicle fifty dollars 320 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: a year and saying that's enough, right because it feels 321 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: good to them. Well, you know, and then we're giving 322 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: away a seventy rebate to the owner of the electric 323 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: vehicle at the federal government level. And who's who's you know, 324 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to get political, but jeez, you know, 325 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: as a mechanic and running a business, I've got to 326 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: understand the numbers have to work or I've got to 327 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: close the doors. This is this, this is becoming like 328 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, was it Joseph heller Cats twenty two. Um. 329 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: But in any event, Frank, I appreciate the call you sir. 330 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: You keep changing your trans fluid the way you do it, 331 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm sure you'll get many more miles out 332 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: of that vehicle. That's that's just crazy. Um. But in 333 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: any event, um, Yeah, And keep in mind to listeners 334 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: that you know, there are some cases where we're not 335 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: going to change trans fluid. There are some cases where 336 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: and it's a it's a matter of feel. If it's 337 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: black and beat and you know, really worn out, there's 338 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: there's no vitality the fluid, and you can feel it 339 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: between your thumb and fore finger, you'll you'll know what 340 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't want to change it, 341 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: but in the end I usually do like to change 342 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: fluid as much as I can. Similarly, because I know 343 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: it to be aware of, I know what I'm looking for. 344 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: When do I want to have the problem? So I 345 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: want to you know, if the translatetion. You always got 346 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: to ask yourself that question. But what if what if 347 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: the trans did fail? Would you change it. Yes, then 348 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: do I change the fluid me We'll get even longer 349 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: life out of it. I'm not in any of the 350 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back. 351 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: Weren't any of the car doctor. Let's get over to 352 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: Peter in Long Island. How did I know this was 353 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: gonna come up this week? I knew somebody would bring 354 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 1: it up. Peter. What do you got hey? Ron? How 355 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: are you doing good? So? I was listening to your 356 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: podcast last week, I think a couple of days later, 357 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: and I heard that call and call in about stiction. 358 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he knew what what it was. I 359 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: guess he was thinking maybe it was for gasoline. And 360 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: I said, oh, wait a minute, I've dealt with this before. 361 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: And he mentioned the word arc oil, which was it's 362 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: a it's an additive for again, it's for diesel, isn't it? 363 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: Because stiction? You know? Because I I hadn't. I couldn't 364 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: recall the term. I I can't remember if I knew 365 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: the term and I'd forgotten it or I've never heard it. 366 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: So I looked it up after the show, and stiction 367 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: is related to diesels, and it's about stationary friction and 368 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: overcoming UM sitting at rest to movement. But what what 369 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: through me was? Because you and I both heard the 370 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: same call, I asked him. He was talking about as 371 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: gasoline ranger, I thought, or his four truck. I remember 372 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: being a gas powered four truck. And uh, somehow we 373 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: got on the subject to the lift or tap and 374 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: the whole call went out of control. I just I went, 375 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: I heard about the lifted tap and I said, no, no, no, 376 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: that's it. So I ran to the phone to call 377 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: and just to leave the message. And this has anything 378 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: to do with gasoline. Yeah. I you know, sometimes Peter 379 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: In in the course of trying to do a radio show, 380 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: you listen to the questions and you're thinking, what is 381 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: he talking about? UM? You know, and I, you know, 382 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: I wonder, but UM, yeah, I get it, and I 383 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I really do. I honestly appreciate you guys 384 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: the way you're calling for the help that everyone's given 385 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: me over the years. But yeah, that's what stiction is. 386 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: It's UM. It applies mostly inside of injectors. Correct in 387 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: the shoeing injectors. Any think because UM the hue injector 388 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: is developed by I think Caterpillar and then International picked 389 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: it up in their truck engines, and also the seventh 390 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: three I think the V eight for the Ford power 391 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: stroke for stroke, and later on they switched to the 392 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: sixth leader. I think they don't think they call it 393 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: the power stroke still, but either way, apparently it has 394 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: something to do with because the fuel pressure is developed 395 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: by oil pressure, right and I and why do I 396 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: think diesel fuel fuel injection pressure on some of those 397 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: eight hundred pounds sticks in my head? Is that right? 398 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: Or higher? I think for here we yeah? Um? But 399 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: I I drive a common rail. Now I have a 400 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: Mercedes and it can go as high as like yeah so, 401 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: and they're even looking at higher. But apparently if the 402 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: oil is not changed enough for the wrong oil, or 403 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: it gets too hot because the hot oil is being 404 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: pressed through that hue we injected to help develop fuel pressure, 405 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: somehow the pencil gets stuck and then because of the 406 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: brope up of deposits from I think because of the 407 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: heat and the pressure separates the oil. Um. Someone can 408 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: probably call in and no better than I do. Now 409 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: is it a phenomena? Is it a phenomena that the 410 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: injector will stick open when the engine is offer only 411 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: while it's running. I think what happened, It happens mostly 412 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: in cold weather. From what I understand is that I 413 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: gets it developed slowly over time. And then they notice 414 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: started the note notice when you start the engine in 415 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: a cold morning, that they won't hit on all eight 416 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: cylinders until the truck warms up and everything starts flowing easier. 417 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: So then when that guy mentioned arc oil, I heard 418 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: we dealt with the same thing where I worked a 419 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: few years ago that we were working on. It was 420 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: for school buses and they had a a DT uh 421 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: international DT and was the same thing. So we just 422 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: tried it to save you say, let's do this first 423 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 1: because injectives are expensive and it takes some time and 424 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: to do it right. Uh So it worked, and then 425 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: I've watched the commercials. It's a great it's a product. 426 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: I know you're not a I don't think you're a 427 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: fan of fuel outives or enjoy I like. I like 428 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: certain ones. I like some of them. You know, you 429 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: know what I don't like, Peter, I don't like I 430 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: don't like using a fuel additive UM to repair something. 431 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it for maintenance Mace. You 432 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: know it's it's I don't I don't agree with those. 433 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Let me pour this bottle of whatever into the gas 434 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: tank and it's get you know, get guaranteed the pass 435 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: emissions and all those cockamami things. To me, that's a 436 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: band aid on a broken leg where we're we're altering 437 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: something on a temporary basis, and we're defeating the purpose 438 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: of the emission system. Listen, I live here too, My 439 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: kids are gonna live here. You know. I'm trying to 440 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: keep the planet as clean as I can. But you know, 441 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: using a fuel system cleaner, like a Barryman fuel system cleaner. 442 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: You hear me talk about that carbon removal issues and 443 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, cleaning up and take vows and things like that. Yeah, 444 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: that all I absolutely, um, absolutely, I want to put 445 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: an additive in the tank because I know that's gonna 446 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: help make the engine run better. The editor is that 447 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: people are trying to put on in place of a repair, 448 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, the cars. The car's got a dead cat 449 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: and a misfire, and they want to put in a 450 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: bottle of guaranteed the pass emissions in the cas tank. 451 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: You know that's that's yeah, that's not gonna work. It's 452 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: it's they're wasting their money and they're hurting the planet. 453 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: So what's what's the point? Um? You know, but yeah, 454 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the gentleman last week was just 455 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: a little confused, because you're right, he was referencing a 456 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: gasolene powered engine, and that's what led me to believe, 457 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: are we talking about something else? Because I knew stiction. 458 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: Something in me instinctively came out. I think that I 459 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: knew stiction didn't apply to gas, but I wasn't sure 460 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: what it applied to. Um, you know that it was 461 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: are we talking about a lifter? Tap? Somehow we got on. 462 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: I thought he was trying to explain the words sticky 463 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: is what I thought, Yeah, let me lead me to it, 464 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: because as I recall, also, the call kind of had 465 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: some moments of I don't know, it was a bad 466 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: connection or you know, his voice was breaking up or something, 467 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: and we were getting kind of choppy there and uh, 468 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: you know that type of thing. So but hey, listen, UM, 469 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for helping clear it up. I appreciate it. Okay, 470 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: look it up. You'll probably yeah it's you know, I'll 471 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: probably research a stick in the back of my head 472 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: if somebody calls me somebody calls me three years from now, 473 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: I'll be ready baby. So UM, but listen, thanks and 474 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: say hello everybody out there on Long Island. So we 475 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys. All right, sir, take good care. UM. Yeah, 476 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: you never know, you never know when the car doctor 477 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: might be, uh might be in your neighborhood. Let's pull over, 478 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: take a pause, and then when we come back, we'll 479 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: go talk to Debbie in Illinois. Nine zero. Car doctors 480 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: coming right back. Don't go away. They welcome back. Card 481 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: octorate five five zero nine zero. Let's go over and 482 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: talk to Debbie in Illinois. Debbie, Welcome to the car Doctor. Hi, Ron, 483 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. You're welcome. What's going on? UM? 484 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: I have a Tucson g L S two. UM. It 485 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: has started using oil. They have sixty miles on it 486 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: and best week and talent. We're starting to document it better. 487 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: It's season about a court every thousand miles. We've been 488 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: changing the oil um every six thousand miles and using 489 00:25:53,560 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: synthetic with the mobile one oil filter. Could it possibly 490 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: be a PCV valve or what would you suggest to 491 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: diagnose it? There's no oil in the anti freeze and 492 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: there's no anti freeze in the oil. You got a pencil, yes, 493 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: piece of paper. Yes, you're equipped, You're ready. Here's the 494 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: bullet the number eighteen dish at eighteen dish Edward Michael 495 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: Dish double O one. And there's probably there's probably a 496 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: few versions of that, and that talks about are you 497 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: sitting down, how the engines under warrantin and they're going 498 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: to replace the engine assembly for oil consumption issues, oil 499 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: consumption and mechanical noise issues. Okay, And it applies to 500 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: the juice on Also, we saw something on the internet, 501 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: but it wasn't to my knowledge. To my knowledge what 502 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: I've seen, it applies to all of the two leaders. Um, 503 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: it's it's also gonna be now, it's also gonna be 504 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: based on they're gonna take they're gonna look at the 505 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: engine number, they're gonna loo at the vehicle. Then they're 506 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: gonna look at the engine number, the build date at 507 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: the plant. But I've yet to see a two leader 508 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: Hyundai Kia, uh anything of that family orientation that hasn't 509 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: been under warranty. The dealers have been replacing them left, 510 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: right and sideways. I've got a few customers that actually 511 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: are in loaners right now. Um, I've got one fellow 512 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: and a loaner that he's last online at the dealership 513 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: and they are so backed up. He's not getting his 514 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: car back for eight months. He was told he will 515 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: he will be in a loan until he will be 516 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: in a loaner until spring. Um, which my answer was, 517 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: I'd started, I'd started an uber service and uh, you know, 518 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: run up the miles on their car. Why not? So okay, 519 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: So so we should probably just take it right to 520 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: the dealer. Man, I would I go talk to them, 521 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, ask the questions. Hey, listen, to explain it 522 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: to them the way you explain it to me. Listen, 523 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: it's it's using oil. Um, you know they're gonna they 524 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: might ask for proof of oil changes. Okay, and I'm 525 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: sure you can provide some kind of receipts. I'm gonna 526 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: guess and say you probably don't take it in for 527 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: service to the dealer. They probably haven't seen it a 528 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, okay, and that's okay. Listen, Hey, you 529 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: know what, it's your right. You're supposed to be a 530 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: to service and maintain your car. As long as you're 531 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: doing it, properly. They can't penalize you for it. You know, 532 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: it's still America the last time I checked. UM, But 533 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, but they're gonna there. And the reason I 534 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: asked that is because if you said to me, I 535 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: was at the dealer two months ago for an oil change, 536 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: you know what, I'd be a little leery that this 537 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: bulletin is applicable. But if the dealer hasn't seen the 538 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: car in three or four years, chances are it is 539 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: applicable because they just haven't, you know, they haven't had 540 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: a chance to run the ven, run the numbers. But 541 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: I would take it to the dealer. Here's what the 542 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: vehicle is doing. UM, you know this is I believe 543 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: there's a bulletin out there for it, given that bulletin number. 544 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: And you know, is any of this applicable? We're going 545 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: through oil and there's no external leaks. What's the story? 546 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: And I bet you get an engine out of the deal. 547 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: All right, So thank you so much. You're very welcome. 548 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: You need anything else, you know, if if if they can't, 549 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: if they if they snow you, or you feel like 550 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: you're not getting the right answer, send me an email. 551 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com And I'll be 552 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: glad to find that bulletin for you and email your cup. 553 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: You see you have it in your hand. Great, thank 554 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: you so much, trying you take good care of Yeah, 555 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: there's something going on with undays and kiyas and lions 556 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: and tigers and bears on mine that they're just not 557 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. Everybody's got an engine issue. Buy a car, 558 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: get an engine, so don and Vermont sixty nine Chevy Corvette. Yes, sir, 559 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Yes, this is a car, vintage 560 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: car which is in really very good condition. Engine has 561 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: been redone. Um. I've had the car since and I've 562 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: always had seventy pounds of oil pressure on the mechanical gauge, 563 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: which is supplied by a small sixteenth inch plastic tube 564 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: from the engine while all original, and it's always registers 565 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: and seventy pounds when they started. It gradually goes back 566 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: to thirty five and I put it up for the winter, 567 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: but I often started a couple of times during the winter. Well, 568 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: I started at this past March and the oil pressure 569 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: gage was fine, shut it off and started again till May. 570 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: And when I restarted it, the oil pressure gauge just 571 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: sat there. Um, I let it warm up. It didn't 572 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: seem to change somebody, of course, I panicked a little, 573 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: so I put an oil pressure tester on it, and 574 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: the pressure was fine. Somebody suggested I run a guitar 575 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: string up through the tubing all the way to the gauge, 576 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: which I did, but it didn't seem to make any difference. 577 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: Probably that gauge is a touch engauge, And if you 578 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: have to take that dash out, you have to be 579 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: very careful because the little chroma scushi on breaks very 580 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: very easily. And I or what if anybody's getting any 581 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: suggestions for something to try before tearing the whole darned 582 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: thing out? Is this a factory gauged on? Yes, it 583 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: was the gauge original gauge came with a car. Okay, 584 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't remember saying. I take it your word. I 585 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: have to confess. I don't remember sixty being a mechanical 586 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: gauge factory, but I guess they made them. Um. Have 587 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: you researched this as to the availability of a replacement 588 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: gauge before you take it apart? Oh? Yeah, I can 589 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: get a repro I probably could get a second hand one. Um. 590 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: But it's the job of tearing it out and replacing 591 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: it that's scaring me a little bit. I just wondered 592 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: if there was any any suggestion how the you know, 593 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: the guitar string thing. I eased it up until I 594 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: got about to the gage, but I didn't here to 595 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: push it, and the gaze didn't move at all, and 596 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: I started cooked it back up and started it afterwards, 597 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: and it just sort of sits there dead. Um again, 598 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: it's a job to take that out. And I'm and 599 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about what would cause it to fail while 600 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: sitting and I'm I'm you know, I'm wondering, you know, 601 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: is it is it that it's stuck? And I'm gonna 602 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 1: venture to guess that you already did this. You put 603 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: them at you try to mechanical gauge, and you've obviously 604 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: have oil pressure. Yea. I put a tester on the 605 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: engine directly and it went right up to seventy pounds, 606 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: just like the original gauge used to. Right then, I mean, 607 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: I've got to say, I think the gauge is broken. 608 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: Um the you know, not that that's a great intelligent comment, 609 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: but I think at that point of pushing the guitar 610 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: string up, you know, wiggles jiggles, I push into the gauge, 611 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: because what's the worst that's gonna happen. The gauge is 612 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: already the gauge is already broken. You can't break it anymore. 613 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: Um in that sense of the word. I don't know 614 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: that the guitar string is going to uncover something or 615 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: have enough umphed to to move the needle. I don't 616 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: see why it would, but it's not the worst idea 617 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: in the world. And then short of that, unfortunately, you 618 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to take it apart. Um. I don't I 619 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: don't see any other way around it. I don't wanna, 620 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, in my mind, I'm going I wonder if 621 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: we ran some sort of uh light duty solving up 622 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: through to the gauge. But I don't know any other 623 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: way to get it there other than putting the solvent 624 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: in the engine. And I don't want you to do that, obviously. 625 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm worried about the engine more than the gauge, uh 626 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, because I'm thinking the needle is stuck down 627 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: low and and and that's why, um, you know, the 628 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: only other thing, you know, we just shoot a burst 629 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: of air up to it. But shop airs. I against 630 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: the plastic line, you'd probably blow the line and make 631 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: a mess out of the interior. So tread lightly and 632 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: good luck to you. Zero nine zero. We're coming back 633 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back. We're not any of the car. Doc. 634 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: Let's go over to Don and Vermont Don. You're back again, 635 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: right Tom, Tom callades at you, Yes, sir, So listen, 636 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,239 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking about it. I'm saying, why does 637 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: it have to be shop there? What if we got 638 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: and again this is this is an off the cuff 639 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: wild thought. What if we got a can of compressed there, 640 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: like you know to dust keyboards on computers. That's a 641 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: that's a real low amount of air. Pressure found the 642 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: plastic line at the back of the engine took it 643 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: off you. I'd want you to try and drain as 644 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: much oil out of it as you could, so we're 645 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 1: not pushing against the oil up into the gauge. I'd 646 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: like to have a clear shot at the gauge if 647 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: if you understand what I'm saying, and then can you 648 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: seal that can of air to the nylonline with the 649 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: nozzle tube and give it a you know that air 650 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: that arrowill get up into the gauge. And if the 651 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: gauge is sticking stuck, you know, laying against some sentiment 652 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 1: or varnish, maybe it'll move it. I think that tube 653 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: actually would fit very nicely. And you know, obviously, and 654 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: I want to just make sure I cover this with 655 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: you because everybody knows how much I love classic cars. 656 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: The danger here is, you know, are we gonna break 657 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: something and put oil on the inside of the car? 658 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see how we could. That's a 659 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: very that's a very low amount of air pressure. I've 660 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: never actually measured it, but it doesn't feel like you know, 661 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: it's nowhere's near shop pressure. Um, it's you know, it's 662 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: kind of a gentle push. The worst that happens is 663 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: you break a gauge. It's already broken, right yeah, and 664 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: and and then you've got to take it apart anyway, 665 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: So put some rags up and around it, make sure 666 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: nothing goes anywhere else, and uh, have at it. Let 667 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: us know what happens. But I would try get some 668 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: get some air from a compressed air from a can. 669 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: So try that. Dawn. Good luck to you, take care 670 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: of that corvette until the next time. Wow, what a day. 671 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: A five five zero nine zero called us when you can. 672 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: I'm not any in the car doctor until the next time. 673 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you