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Speaker 2: here today. Today we'll do Kyle Krabb's latest mock draft

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Speaker 2: on the thirty third team is do one round, I believe,

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Speaker 3: They get aggressive on thirty third. This will start to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's take a look here at what Crabs

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Speaker 2: of course Cam Word going number one overall to Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: The Browns en take Abdull Carter, the rusher out of

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Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be pretty chalky, at least until

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Speaker 2: Do would you go that way? Or would you if

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Speaker 3: I like that set up. I think that's a team

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Speaker 2: At nine, the Saints take Will Johnson cornerback from Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen, the Bengals take Gray's Abel, offensive lineman from North Dakota.

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Speaker 2: At eighteen, the Seahawks take Matthew Golden wide receiver from Texas.

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Speaker 3: I like them all. Yeah. Any combination all those guys.

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Speaker 3: You'd have to trade back, trade out, you know, they'd

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Speaker 2: They're all good.

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Speaker 3: Any combination of those. Yeah, you're picking the right you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're definitely looking down the right aisle there and.

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Speaker 3: Seeing imagine that the tato chips are right next to

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Speaker 3: There was none I disliked.

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Speaker 2: No the reason I say Harmon and West they both

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess Farmer does too, but I like the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's all good.

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Speaker 2: Paul has actually two questions here. Should the Steelers even

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Speaker 2: but Milroe at least could be the answer. That's high.

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Speaker 3: Lean that way too. And really, even if you don't

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Speaker 2: But we've said constantly, insistently, we don't know what next

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Speaker 3: Look like no.

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Speaker 2: And just see, it's what the Jets did with the

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I was young guy, and you were a young guy.

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Speaker 2: You weren't pounding the table, you were hiding.

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Speaker 3: But I do remember we were considering what's his name.

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Speaker 3: third and eight. Yeah, every we didn't have any of

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Speaker 2: Marco a Romero and Navarro says, tip of the cap

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Speaker 3: We kind of did.

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Speaker 2: I think he kind of just did with some of

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Speaker 2: Harve were the same age. It's almost like Jayla Moren

440
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 2: and Nausey Harris, they're the same age, but they weren't

441
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 2: the same draft, right, And maybe we can think about

442
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 2: it too. It came in real young.

443
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 3: Which which guy reminds you most of Hargrave in this class?

444
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 3: Which guy reminds you most to it in his class?

445
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a hard grave nose tackle

446
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: in this class and has.

447
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: That say, I'm having a hard time also the first

448
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 3: step that I mean, even like Nolan's not as thick

449
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 3: as to it.

450
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not, as he doesn't have the length of

451
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 2: to it had a big but Harmon's Harmon's the closest

452
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: one in terms of body type.

453
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, even his lower bodies not like but it's not

454
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 3: like to it. I mean, yeah, I'll take to it

455
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 3: over all those guys. Yeah, I mean that's a little

456
00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 3: bit of bird in the hand.

457
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, that's a tough question.

458
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 3: It is. I don't have great answer either, No, I don't.

459
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't either. I mean I just think that there's

460
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: nobody quite like those guys, And I don't know.

461
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: You have to recreate it either, right, you do it

462
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 3: different ways, right right. Benton has some to vibes to him.

463
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, jose Banks says, how tired are you ins today?

464
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good. Actually I'm not too bad. Yeah,

465
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: the sleep schedule got a little screwed up a little

466
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 3: bit but I'm too bad. I went to bed early

467
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 3: last night chugged a bunch of coffee. In segment one, Yeah.

468
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: There you go, Chris Rucker says, one last look back

469
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: at the QB quandary, what would it cost to have

470
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 2: exercised a fifty year option on fields last year? Do

471
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: you think there may be regrets it not exercising it,

472
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 2: or would have caused too many waves last year? It

473
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: would have cost it was about twenty I think it

474
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: was like twenty one million, which is about what he got.

475
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 2: It's about what he got. But you'd be fully guaranteeing

476
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: that without ever having even had him in the building.

477
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 3: Basically, think that we talk about all the time, the

478
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: timing of when you have to make the decision. It

479
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: never really worked with a game, It wouldn't work out.

480
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 2: No, I hadn't seen him play yet. You hadn't seen

481
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: anything right. You'd seen him for a few ota sessions

482
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: and I don't know it.

483
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 3: They'd be a whole lot better off if you had

484
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: him locked up a twenty one million you know, dead

485
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 3: man walking at the end of the year. Either, Yeah,

486
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: you've been in a better position to negotiate. But I

487
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 3: like him and I'm rooting for him. It doesn't break

488
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: my heart that he's not here.

489
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: No, now I'm with you. Paul asked, would you consider

490
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 2: an offensive tackle in round one? Given the Jones or

491
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 2: Flatano could move to guard, they are harder to find

492
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 2: and you can still draft high quality defensive tackles after

493
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 2: round one. My answer to that is no, because there

494
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: aren't offensive tackles in this draft. There are highly rated

495
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: as either Jones or Filatano.

496
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: No, things would have to go drastically wrong. But I'm

497
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: sure I'll have Membo Campbell in my top twenty one.

498
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: But lo, Yeah, Simmons is the only one I kind

499
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: of understand if you look at him like, this guy

500
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: can be a superstar left tackle, which is probably.

501
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: I don't know that. They can't think he's. No, I

502
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: don't think so either, and.

503
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: The right guys would all have to be off the board,

504
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, I just I don't see it. And

505
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: again I thought the second round.

506
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: Pick, now you'd be running into that fifty year option

507
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 2: with Jones Ortano where you're saying, okay, we're gonna are

508
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: we gonna pick up the fifty year option on a

509
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: guard at twenty five million? I'm not.

510
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't quite add up. Now, I met three

511
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: years in row taking a tackle. I mean, trust me,

512
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: I like tackles. But that's a little crazy.

513
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: Uh. If they miss on the top four backs, gent Hampton, Judkins, Henderson,

514
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: who do you think would be a good fit with

515
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: the Steelers. I think it's the guy that they brought

516
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: in today. Johnson would be certainly one that he'd.

517
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 3: Be really high on the list of next best. I

518
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 3: think he's absolutely there. It's funny because there was a

519
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: couple guys I just threw out there, not even for

520
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 3: the Steelers that I'm starting to grow a little more

521
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: fond of late Manong guy from I'm talking like six

522
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: round ten Rutgers kid. Yeah, the Records kid. He's pretty

523
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 3: nasty if they're looking for the twotin type, you know

524
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: what I mean. And and Brooks from Texas Tech. I

525
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 3: hadn't watched them much. Be paying attention to me yesterday,

526
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 3: Like he's got some size handful. Yeah, I mean for

527
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: the price, right right. I also think Martinez isn't that

528
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 3: much different than Judkins. Yeah, I mean a round different,

529
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 3: not three rounds different.

530
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, don quick as after drafting defensive lineman in

531
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: round one, should we expect to run defense only give

532
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: up two hundred and seventy five yards instead of twohundred

533
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: and ninety nine. They did it one time against the

534
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: Ravens game. The Ravens ran like that pretty much against everybody.

535
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: Last year they set a freaking record that the league

536
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: just changed the record. They were the league's best running

537
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: team ever.

538
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: And I know I get it right, but adding one

539
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: defensive tackle doesn't change run defenses either. By the way,

540
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: it's a group effort.

541
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: And again, I'll say what we talked about last week

542
00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 2: with Max. They for whatever reason, they zigged it when

543
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 2: they should have just stuck with what their game plan was.

544
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 2: The game plan was a bad game plan. Said it

545
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: that week after that game. I don't understand why when

546
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: every other time that you've played Lamar, your outside linebackers

547
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: are keying on Lamar instead they tried to, Well, you

548
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 2: know they're going to try to do so they're going

549
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: to come up with something that it's going to work

550
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 2: against that, So we're going to go after Derrick Henry.

551
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 3: This time it was I know that, you know that,

552
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: I know that you know thing. And and folks, I'm

553
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: not making excuse, but this is a fact they had

554
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 3: played a lot of football and are pretty worn down

555
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: on defense, and.

556
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: Those are those are two of the best runners at

557
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: their position, best ball carriers at their position in NFL history.

558
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 3: NFL history. It's quite the backfield and folks, I'm not

559
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 3: again making excuses what they put on the fields all

560
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 3: that matters. But there was a lot of illness on

561
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 3: that defense that day too. They just telling you what happened.

562
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: Uh. I can't pronounce his name that here, but he says.

563
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: Michael Lombardi on McAfee said that some of the players

564
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: that only work out at their pro days and are

565
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: not at the Combine do so because they are not

566
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: drug tested at the Combine. Any truth to.

567
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 3: That, I have no idea, but Lombardi would know.

568
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 2: I would think they would be drug tested. You can't

569
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 2: get out of the drug test at the Combine by

570
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: not I'm not working out, so we don't.

571
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: Okay, we're not gonna drug test you. Then are you

572
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 3: allowed to say I'm not going to go in the

573
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: bod pod or I'm not going to do the medicals.

574
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you could, but it'd be a

575
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: massive red flag.

576
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah right, if so, if somebody did that then I

577
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: would say, Now I would be wondering if they're trying

578
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 2: to I mean skip.

579
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: A drug excuses a drug test at the combine. I

580
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: mean you're just like it's a drag, it's a job interview. Yeah,

581
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 3: I don't know. Lombardi would know better than me, but

582
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: I can unless you just don't show up to the combine.

583
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: Never does that.

584
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: Everybody shows up. They get up on the podium. Like,

585
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be there and you're gonna get up

586
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: on the podium, you're gonna do the interviews everybody does.

587
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna pee in the jar part of

588
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 2: the medical Yeah. Uh, what's the traction level to get

589
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: armand Nikolai in the Steelers' Hall of Honor? I have

590
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: no idea who's on mind Nikola. I'm gonna look him up.

591
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he played. This guy's probably related to him

592
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: some armand Nikola played. I need to refresher, Okay. Armand

593
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: Nikolay was a guard with the Steelers from nineteen thirty

594
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: four to nine or ninety. Yeah, nineteen thirty four to

595
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: nineteen forty two. That's a bit ahead of my time.

596
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: I know we're old, but we're not that old.

597
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: If you ayn't gotten in by now, I don't love

598
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: his chances.

599
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: They do.

600
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: They do try to take care of those guys from

601
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: back in the back day. But I'll be honest with you,

602
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm not real familiar with.

603
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: I'm sure this question asker knows better than we do.

604
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nicolay's work. RJ. Porriers. With college football season getting

605
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: closer in the number of games for the playoff teams

606
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 2: is the NFL season, do you think the Steelers will

607
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: adjust how they manage rookie Snaps? No, because there's there's

608
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: enough time in between. Like you got to play. You

609
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: don't draft a guy to not play him.

610
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: I think it depends on what the prospect is. Like,

611
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: there's that too, you know, like Broderick Jones led the

612
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: team in preseason rookie Snaps, so did t J. Watt

613
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: and needed it. What wasn't Pennsylvan as a starter though, right.

614
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: At that point? Yeah, but he was playing on special teams.

615
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: He was doing all that stort, right, I'm thinking more preseason.

616
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 3: You know, you monitor it. Some guys. You need to

617
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: show it to me to get to be the Week

618
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: one starter, like Roderick Jones to me.

619
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: A lot of Well, in a lot of instances, Tomlin

620
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: will play the rookies more in the because they need

621
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: the experience at the NFL level.

622
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: But he helped pored her out for a while. And

623
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: there's been some rookies lately that didn't get thrown right

624
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: in the mix so that they could be there for

625
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: the long haul. Yeah, I mean they're very conscious of it.

626
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a case by case.

627
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 2: I mean, if the guy has played, you know, if

628
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 2: it's a quarterback, for example, that's a different level of

629
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: playing than a defensive lineman who's been out there or

630
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman who's out there grinding.

631
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: Even senior thinking what if they take grant well, he

632
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: doesn't have to play as many snaps as Jones would.

633
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: They never off the field.

634
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: It's situational. If we assume that Rogers is QB one

635
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: this year, who do you think benefits more from that

636
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: of Calvin Austin or Roman Wilson. I got to see

637
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: more from Roman Wilson before I can give you the

638
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: answer to that.

639
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't really give you that answer.

640
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, we didn't get to see much of

641
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson in training camp about what about a week

642
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: and then he got hurt. Then when he comes back

643
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: he's basically running scout team stuff and a little bit

644
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: of the offense here and there, and gets hurt, and

645
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: then when he comes back he's basically just doing, you know,

646
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: some of the like a third string guy he's out

647
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: there with on scout team.

648
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: Thinking of Michigan Wilson, I do think of him going

649
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: over the middle more than that Austin.

650
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: He's a bigger guy.

651
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, But I also know Rogers is very strict

652
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: and meticulous for if you run this route at nine yards,

653
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: don't make it nine and a half, you know, And

654
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: to me that favors the veteran.

655
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's kind of it's all remains to be seen.

656
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know the answer to that either.

657
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: Bob and Tennessee ask any chance Max Starks will be

658
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: interested in working with Rob King in the broadcast booth.

659
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: Love hearing his insights and comments is on the Sideline

660
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: Reporter and on the Drive the past few days. I

661
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: think Max would definitely be interested in that, and he'd

662
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: be great at it. It'd be fantastic at it. He

663
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: does it for west Wood One now he does all

664
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Speaker 2: that stuff.

665
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Speaker 3: Max is top notch. Yeah, a little above our pay grade.

666
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know anything one way or the other. Yeah, yeah,

667
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: Mike five, six, seven eight. Ask two players, I like,

668
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: Mason McCormick and Keanu Benton. How do you how do

669
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: the two players great out where they put in position

670
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: to be effective? The question is more Benton question. Seems

671
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: like McCormick got tired as this and went on.

672
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: I think that is a little true for McCormick.

673
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they you know, those guys kind of

674
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: got worn down. The same thing with Fraser. I think

675
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: they hit a rookie wall I think three eleven. I

676
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: talked to those guys about it at that time, and

677
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: you know, they all know I feel great. I feel great.

678
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: You may talk yourself into that a little bit. The

679
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: results on the field didn't show that.

680
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: I didn't think they've became bad players, but they didn't

681
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: have the same pop. Yeah.

682
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: As for Benton, he was out there sixty percent of

683
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: the snap, so he was given the opportunity to be more,

684
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: to do more.

685
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: I think he was a lot more effective than his

686
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: numbers show too. Yeah, I mean, just win rate. Things

687
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: like that I think are better than in the tape.

688
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: I think the sacks will come for Benton.

689
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

690
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: People measure fairly or unfairly defensive lineman by the sack,

691
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: that it's too rough. Yeah, it's not just that, No, No,

692
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: it's you know a lot of other stuff, like the

693
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: people saying, well TJ. Wat had a bad year last year.

694
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: He was the number one graded run stop at any

695
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: position in the league.

696
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. As for McCormick and Benton, I don't think they're

697
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: I think they're both being put in good position to succeed.

698
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both still young players. Yeah, going to continue

699
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: to get better. The arrow has definitely pointed up for

700
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: both guys.

701
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: Me both of them take a little step forward.

702
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: Though, assuming maxa Matthew Swamp says, assuming we address defensive

703
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: tackle in round one with Nolan Grant Harmon and we

704
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: don't trade back, what would your preference be to target

705
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: running back quarterback or would you prefer to double down

706
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: on defensive line with a dedicated nose tackle like CJ.

707
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 2: West type player? What depends on who you get. If

708
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: you get Grant, doubling down on d line would make

709
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: me happier than probably the running backs there. But Milroe's

710
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: kind of my wild card that I ever a hard

711
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: time passed. It depends on who the I mean, I know,

712
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: when we do these mock drafts, you know, so there's

713
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: this running back. Those guys aren't available, doesn't mean they

714
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's not going to happen. Somebody might slide

715
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: down a little bit that.

716
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: Ons and sitting there in the third round. I'd gladly

717
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: do that.

718
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: So you just don't know until you get into the

719
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: draft and see how falls.

720
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: You know, but if you don't get a d line

721
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: or a running back in three, there'll be one in four.

722
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Let's do one more here before

723
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: we get to a break. Andrew Kwaikowski says, do you

724
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: foresee the Steelers having a bye after the Ireland game?

725
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: Rumor is that the game will be in work week four,

726
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: leading to an early bye. I heard, yeah, I have

727
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: heard that the Steelers have requested not to have the

728
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: buy after that game. It's only here's the thing about

729
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh going to Ireland, it's like a five or six

730
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: hour flight. There's really no difference there in going to Seattle,

731
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: for example, or La. It's not that much of a difference.

732
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: And remember two late. That game is going to be

733
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: played before all the other games. It's not gonna be.

734
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: It can't be. It can't be a Sunday night game,

735
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: for example, It's going to be an early Sunday morning game.

736
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: And so you'll you'll be all right.

737
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: When you get home to Pittsburgh post game. It won't

738
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: be that.

739
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: It's not going to be nuts. It's you. You'll probably

740
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: be I don't have to, you know, know when exactly

741
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: they're going to play the game, but you'll probably get

742
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: back around ten o'clock on Sunday night or eleven. Let's

743
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: say you get back then.

744
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 3: But that is different, not.

745
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: That different playing at three o'clock game or a one

746
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: o'clock game in Houston. Yeah, yeah, you know, for example,

747
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: or a five or three four o'clock, four to thirty

748
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: game on the you know, in the Western time zone.

749
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: You're getting home at at midnight or so on a Sunday,

750
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: and it's a luxury liner.

751
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: It's very comfortable. They'll see you know.

752
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's not that. And again, I I don't

753
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: know that the league will acquiesce on this, but I've

754
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: heard that the Steelers have requested not to have a

755
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: bye week.

756
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: I'd rather have one twelve.

757
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that the league will do that, but sure, sure, yeah,

758
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: so we'll see.

759
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 3: Scheduling is hard.

760
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: Scheduling is hard. So let's get to a break. He

761
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie, and this

762
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back with more questions right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

766
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation.

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00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

768
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and we're going through the Twitter ex

769
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Speaker 2: Twitter questions here as we do on Thursdays. And steel

770
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: Warrior fifty five has a question for you, Mat, How

771
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: did you both become so awesome big fan of the show. Now,

772
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, you know, we've got to credit to

773
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: people that make the show work. We got Justin over here,

774
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: we got Tyler over here making sure the show allows

775
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: us to do what we do.

776
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: So when I was very new to Twitter on ESPN,

777
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, why do they only want me on Twitter?

778
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: Do they really care that I ordered a pizza? Or yeah,

779
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: I do whatever you know, like, who cares what I

780
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: have to say? And I remember we're asking Adam Schefter.

781
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, how do I get to like a

782
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 3: couple of million followers? And He's like, if everyone knew

783
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: that answer signed, we'd all be doing it. I could

784
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: give those secrets away.

785
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate the the love there.

786
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: You may have reestimate us a little.

787
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe Markusik said, ask the guys love the show.

788
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: Nice one. Hypothetically speaking, if the Steelers are able to

789
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: trade back in the first round, do you draft a

790
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: quarterback there? Or do you still wait until rounds four

791
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: to seven? Four through seven? I am waiting.

792
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: To me, the quarterback situation is Milroe is the guy

793
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: I'll pay for. I still have an affinity for Shock,

794
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: but I don't know where he fits with Rogers and Rudolph.

795
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: That's all of a sudden, yeah.

796
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 3: And otherwise I'm just looking for Day three value or

797
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: none at all, you know what I mean, Like if

798
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 3: they get none and boy they got two d linemen

799
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: and you know everything else, because you.

800
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: You know, if it's assuming that Roger signed, you've got

801
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph as your number two for two years.

802
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 3: I mean the two year deal for him, right, right, right, things, Yeah,

803
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: Joe asked it picked twenty one.

804
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: The run on defensive tackles has already started. Okay, do

805
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers still take Harmon over Golden Abuka? Defensive tackle

806
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: is the biggest need, But the offense has been so

807
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: bad for the last four or five years, it'd be

808
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: nice to have as many weapons as possible. Well, Joe,

809
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: the Steelers have addressed the wide receiver position by going

810
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: out and getting DK Metcalf, who is better better than

811
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: Golden or Abuka?

812
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: Right, I understand what he's saying, like I do too,

813
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: but I'm taking me too. But Pickings Golden Metcalf Friarmoth

814
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 3: would be pretty dark nice, Yeah, you know, and Rogers

815
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 3: play more eleven. I get it. There's a point where

816
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: I could go that way.

817
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: If the run and all those guys are gone, then okay,

818
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: I'll consider a wide receiver, but I don't think they're

819
00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: all going to be gone.

820
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: Would you definitely do harm And over Golden?

821
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: Yes?

822
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: I think I would.

823
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: Too, because again, there just aren't as many guys with

824
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: that particular body type.

825
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: Because to do it, I'm not gonna get one till

826
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: round three, too. And then I feel like I've short

827
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: changed my deals right which I don't want to do.

828
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: In this draft. That's already number one.

829
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: You want to as somebody mentioned in a previous question,

830
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: that's now you're going to give up to undred ninety

831
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: nine yards rushing again potentially. R J. Poyer says, I'm

832
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: going to ask part two. He asked the questions in

833
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: the previous Can you each rank your personal top three

834
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: true positional needs for the Steelers before the draft. Let's

835
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: assume Rogers eventually signs, and can you each list your

836
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: top three biggest wants in the draft as well well?

837
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: Your positional needs and your wants probably the same.

838
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: I would say it differently, okay, O, line's a want

839
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 3: for me across the board. You know, maybe a future

840
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: guard to tackle those are once for me just because

841
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: of the nest and the team building stuff I want.

842
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: See. I also think it's a need because of the

843
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: depth that you don't have there right now and the

844
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: fact that say Amalu is a free agent. That's why

845
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: you know, if I take.

846
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: To figure what the line of demarcation between need and want.

847
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: Is, my my biggest needs are defensive line. That's a

848
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: need that's a need.

849
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: Is a second D line a need or a one?

850
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: I think it's a need. I'd like to have two.

851
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: That's what I say. My three needs might be D line,

852
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: D line, running back. Yeah, running back is definitely in there. Yeah.

853
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: So if I say defensive line, running back, and if

854
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: I can get another offensive lineman, because that's in need

855
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: I need, I'm gonna need nine of those guys.

856
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: I want eleven. Yeah, that's my magic, right, I want eleven.

857
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: I've got eleven that have you know I.

858
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: Want eleven NFL players, right, I don't need eleven.

859
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 2: You know, I've got some guys who are on the team,

860
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: you know, Dylan Cook and guys like that who have

861
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: played in the I want him to be eleven. Yeah,

862
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Right, Yeah, And so that's

863
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 2: a want. In terms of the wants you might.

864
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: Talk about Labs yesterday.

865
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: Another corner is a one, A quarterback, And it's just

866
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: exact time we need a want. It's not in need

867
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: if you've signed Rogers and Mason Rudolph.

868
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: As we just said, just back to the Golden conversation,

869
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 3: but cut it in half. A third round receiver would

870
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: be nice. Yeah, you know, right, guyutrunner, right, you'd be nice,

871
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: but I can live without it.

872
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: If he's also a return guy, that's all the better.

873
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 3: You know. I look at like Williams from Washington State,

874
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: like he's there in the fourth round. Maybe he's not

875
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: a returner, but he's a good football player, you know,

876
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: a little different to what they have.

877
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: So that's where I'm at with that.

878
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 3: I think, uh, number one need is a d lineman. Yeah,

879
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 3: young one.

880
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: Matt Cicco says, I love the show and no hot

881
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: take mentality, we'll appreciate that. Is there someone currently on

882
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: the roster that could be a breakout candidate for next season?

883
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: You're a daisy if you do.

884
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 3: Well, o Liman Galore.

885
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: I think Roman Wilson fits into that.

886
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I don't think we're saying he's gonna

887
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: be a Pro Bowler, but no, he's gonna be a breakout.

888
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: He catches third long number, he catches thirty five passes

889
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: this year, that's yeah.

890
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if he establishes himself as a really

891
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: good number three receiver, that's a breakout to me.

892
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: If you're talking about a guy who's a breakout candidate

893
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: to maybe make the Pro Bowl or something, like that.

894
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: How about Jayleen Warren.

895
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 3: I said, Warren and Peyton Wilson, Yeah, could get expanded roles.

896
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 3: They both are gonna they will get expanded role. They're

897
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: going to play a lot.

898
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Benton's a good one that Yeah. Yeah, could take

899
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: that next step and be a five or six sac guy.

900
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. You'd love it if it's somebody you're not

901
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: thinking about, like Trice, somebody that comes out of nowhere.

902
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: It's like, whoa, we got a dude here. It happens

903
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: every year. Oh yeah, see Warren coming.

904
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, so I think that's yeah. But the

905
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: offensive line is yeah.

906
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 3: I mean Fortanu and Jones are the ones that right

907
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: jump off the page to me.

908
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: Short Junior says, favorite Steelers team of all time. I

909
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: have no clue. All time is a long time, you know.

910
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: For me, I have a lot of fond memories of

911
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: covering that that super Bowl in two thousand and five,

912
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: just because it was such an odd run through the

913
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You know, to go on the road four

914
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 2: straight weeks like there five four out of five straight

915
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: weeks and see that team win on the road like that,

916
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: and you know that covering that season was one of

917
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: the more interesting seasons in the time that I've done this.

918
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, mine would definitely be probably like the Lebau era

919
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: because that's more my age, you know, like the seventies,

920
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: I was too young. Now I adore my job. Wouldn't

921
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: change it for anything. But I'm I'm not a fan.

922
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 5: You know.

923
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's different three river days when I'm

924
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: tailgating like crazy and swing a terrible tao.

925
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: For me, it's those For me, it's more involved my

926
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: memories of what I did during those times.

927
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, like I was twenty coming home.

928
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: You know. We got to roll through some questioning Dale

929
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: and Matt great insightful show. My question is everyone seems

930
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: so nonchalant about Nause's replacement on thousand yards and four

931
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: plus seasons is not an easy task. So my question

932
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: to speculate on getting that production, wouldn't you have to

933
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: draft Hampton in the first round?

934
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: Not in this draft, not in this draft. But I

935
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: do think the point his first sentence, his first part

936
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: is very valid because of the reliability. Yeah, we may

937
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: have guys that can't pick up blitzes and are fumbling

938
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: left and right. I mean, if you have the you

939
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: lead the league in running back fumbles all of a sudden,

940
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: it's like not good, Yeah, not good? Right, why do

941
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: we lose those games all of a sudden?

942
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you can get guys in this draft to

943
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: step in and oh yeah yeah, produce uh Steeler's running

944
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: back situation in the draft later rounds or somebody who

945
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: can make an instant impact this year. Well they could

946
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: be the same thing.

947
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: For what position?

948
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: Running back? Yeah, I can get I can get a

949
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: third or fourth round guy who will make an instant

950
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 2: impact this year.

951
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 3: In this draft, I think you get a fifth rounder

952
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 3: that's your second leading run.

953
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: Remember, Jayleen Warren was a was an undrafted free agent.

954
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: He made an impact his his first year with the team.

955
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: I expect to be more running room and better blocking.

956
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: Chris Maxwell says the best show hands down. Appreciate that

957
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith likes to run zone running scheme. Who your

958
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: guys favorite zone running schemes, Caleb, but Johnson comes to

959
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: mind Johnson's and who doesn't fit in the scheme From

960
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: this draft, I need to do a little.

961
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: More homework on that. On Who's run you can find

962
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: the information of percentage, half of which I believe I'm

963
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 3: not sure the charters are the best in the world,

964
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: like that thing, especially that college level, right right right.

965
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: I do think the Tutons and Sampson's and those type

966
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: of guys have that outside stretch, stick a foot in

967
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: the ground Shanahan field to them. I think that's something

968
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 3: that they're pursuing.

969
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: Thing about the thing about this draft, does these guys

970
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: set the combine record? It's for forty time, for speed

971
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: and to run that outside zone. There's some patience involved, Yeah,

972
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: but you got to be able to get the orations. Yeah,

973
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: you better be able to get to the edge.

974
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yeah.

975
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: Michael Oedesso says, is there a scenario twenty one where

976
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: you'd be okay with the Steelers drafting one of the

977
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: O linemen. I'm trying to think of the worst case scenario.

978
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: We're all four defensive linemen, Hampton, Golden and t mac

979
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: and Schador are all gone. What would be next offensive

980
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: line or cornerback? Best available? We kind of dressed that

981
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: earlier at the cornerback. If all those guys go early, yeah,

982
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: Baron's going to be there or Will Johnson is going

983
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: to be there?

984
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 3: Like I take maybe I could be convinced of Golden,

985
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: you know, just like, that's the best guy there. The

986
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: only thing I could see. And I thought about this

987
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 3: after we answered the one question was what if you

988
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: move from twenty one to thirty and he kind of

989
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: got shut out on d tackles? You have extra picks

990
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: and Simmons is sitting there and you're like, all right,

991
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: I was taking them and I'll get these in that situation.

992
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: Three if I have a second and third, you.

993
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: Know, Matt Sable asks, do you guys do you think

994
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: the Steelers have any interest in safety in the draft

995
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: after they send a dB coach to South Carolina's pro

996
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: day for Muwari. Well, South Carolina has other defensive bands

997
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: than just Mwori, and.

998
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 3: I don't think the answer is yes. I mean I

999
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: think maybe a seventh round special team or yeah, I

1000
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: hoped for Watts. Yeah, I mean, and Thornhill's not here.

1001
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 2: Who is the JB asks? Who is the most underrated

1002
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: player you'd consider drafting in a third or fourth round

1003
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: that isn't a quarterback? Ps? Get Bob labs the Vader music.

1004
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: I keep coming back to Robinson from Nebraska. I think

1005
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: he's being slept on.

1006
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: I keep coming back to Martinez Martinez is another good right,

1007
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he'd be a real favorite around here.

1008
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: You mentioned the wide receiver from Washington State, right Edwards

1009
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 2: John Phillips. If the Steelers don't address the quarterback position

1010
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: in this year's drafts, who are next year's top quarterback prospects?

1011
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: I've heard Arch Manning, But that's about it. That all.

1012
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: That's one of the things we talk about with this.

1013
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: You don't know what's going to be available next year.

1014
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: I mean then I don't know. I know, muss Meyer

1015
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: all are those are the names that are being thrown around.

1016
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: Everyone's talking about the march for Arch uh whatever. Yeah,

1017
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: we'll see.

1018
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: We got some other questions here we didn't get to,

1019
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: but we're out of time. Try to answer those tomorrow

1020
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: on tomorrow's show. Guys, some of these guys, Joey bagadonas

1021
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: as a questionnaire, Mike Foster as a questionnaire, longtime listeners

1022
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Speaker 2: to the show. I know these guys are. So we'll

1023
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: get to those questions tomorrow, but we've got to wrap

1024
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: things up today. A lot of questions. Yeah, good stuff, Geez,

1025
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Speaker 2: appreciate it, but absolutely, But for my partner Matt Williamson,

1026
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: for Justin Miller here on site running the show and

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Speaker 2: making sure we get that good music there. And for

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Speaker 2: Tyler viitt Meyer making sure the video gets out onto YouTube.

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