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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Tabso tap A long

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Speaker 2: time ago.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I remember a month ago when we predicted it

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Speaker 1: would happen. Oh tips, you had a job at this

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Speaker 1: time yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Tip.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if you had unfolded your arms more you had

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Speaker 1: a job.

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Speaker 2: Tip, maybe you would want.

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Speaker 1: Something else in the black wardrobe you would haven't jumped.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe if you would just bleep in one game

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Speaker 1: one against the Pacers, you oh made. I'm just saying, maybe,

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon, that was slight.

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Speaker 2: D I heard the break screech. Now let me tell

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Speaker 2: you something, top TIMO. It was a full work up.

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Speaker 1: of basketball headlines are we gonna have to get us

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Speaker 1: the game one of the NBA Finals, Enter the Knicks

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Speaker 1: and Tom Thibodeaux fired after the best run in the

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Speaker 1: last twenty five years, losing in the Eastern Conference Finals. Now,

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Speaker 1: let me just say what Mike Harmon alluded to a

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Speaker 1: few moments ago. Okay, I am not surprised. We talked

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Speaker 1: about this a couple of weeks ago. I am not surprised. Right,

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Speaker 1: There's lots of different things. But the first thing I

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Speaker 1: will tell you is this, Right before you want to

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Speaker 1: dive into the roster and defense and Karl Anthony Towns,

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Speaker 1: before you want to dive into and Who's Next and

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Speaker 1: all the stuff, all the we're on our test to

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Speaker 1: metal world pieces. I want to be that ready for

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Speaker 1: the smoke, right, what a campaign, dude. I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: The most fun Well, the most fun thing today was

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Speaker 1: watching the Rockies win a series. The second most fun

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Speaker 1: thing today was watching the number of people who trended

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Speaker 1: because fans were saying, what if this guy was the

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Speaker 1: knicks next head coach? Right, here's bet a world peace,

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Speaker 1: here's Rick Patino.

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Speaker 2: Come on, what you do? Dial it?

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Speaker 3: Doc Rivers is out there, don't.

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Speaker 1: Don't you soach me?

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Speaker 2: Don't you say?

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, that.

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Speaker 2: That would be the greatest thing for the man for

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Speaker 2: the furthering of the show during the long arduous run

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Speaker 2: that is the NBA regular season, to be able to

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Speaker 2: chronicle that on a day to day basis and mine, Come.

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Speaker 1: On, I know you and I are at Odds Frostburg

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Speaker 1: with the Mets Dodgers coming up in a few minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's over the line, man, that I wouldn't wish Doc

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Speaker 1: Rivers on you. I wouldn't risk Doc Rivers on any

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Speaker 1: White Sox. That's how much I wouldn't wish Doc Rivers

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Speaker 1: on anybody. You know what, He might actually eke out it,

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Speaker 1: although Venable is doing a pretty good job with a

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Speaker 1: bad roster, and they at least come out and fight

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Speaker 2: But fault's fault. That's all his fall bring the hometown kid,

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Speaker 2: Doc Rivers home.

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Speaker 1: Come on, let's go before you get to everything. There

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Speaker 1: is a really there's a really easy way that I

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Speaker 1: think people are just blowing past. Which is what And

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Speaker 1: you know why the Knicks fired Tibbs today after their

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Speaker 1: greatest season in twenty five years. Think for a second

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Speaker 1: right outside, you know, big NBA fans, we all watch

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals. Yes, the Knicks lost. It was really difficult.

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Speaker 1: Their flaws were all exposed. But just think about being

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Speaker 1: this right, the Knicks lose and it is heartbreaking. And

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Speaker 1: not only that they are not over a Game one

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Speaker 1: as the biggest blown loss in the history of the game.

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Speaker 1: Can't I can't overstate that enough. The Knicks lost Game one,

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Speaker 1: We went back and looked the record fourteen hundred and

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Speaker 1: fourteen fourteen to zero with a nine point lead and

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Speaker 1: you know, a team has never blown a lead like that.

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Speaker 1: Even before that, because teams didn't hit threes for the

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Speaker 1: the one hundred some odd years since since Nasmith said, hey,

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Speaker 2: Since that, no one has blown a lead. This was.

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Speaker 1: So yeah. This is an all time worst loss in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. This is a loss that stays with the

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Speaker 1: team and franchise forever. It's Reggie Miller on steroids because

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Speaker 1: this was Hey, at least the Knicks won that series

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Speaker 1: at Reggie Miller made the choke sign. This was blowing

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Speaker 1: It is an all time embarrassing Game one and series

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Speaker 1: team can just sit there and say, well, we'll get

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Speaker 1: him next year. We didn't have as good a roster.

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Speaker 1: The Pacers were a better team. No, some losses you

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Speaker 1: can't come back from. Because they're just that bad. Not

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Speaker 1: all losses are created equal. Some losses are worse than others.

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Speaker 1: Some losses make the worst losses look like a kid

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Speaker 1: We've never seen it before, a team has never had

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Speaker 1: roll it back, we'll make some There needs to be repercussions.

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Speaker 1: There needs to be fall up. We told you after

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Speaker 1: gonna look at is gonna be Tibbs and Karl Anthony Towns?

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Speaker 1: And who are the guys? TIBs and Karl Anthony Towns?

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Speaker 1: All the Karl Anthony Towns criticism the last few days,

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Speaker 1: just so bad you can't bring Tibbs back because he's

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Speaker 1: of we blew that lead against the Pacers. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: blow it again. You're gonna see this in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Every time a team is up nine with a minute

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Speaker 4: When the Bass did it back in twenty five with

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Speaker 1: That's exactly how it's gonna go. You can't bring them back.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm not surprised at all. The TIBs got

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Speaker 1: just so bad you have to start anew You have

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Speaker 1: to start and say, Okay, we gotta move away from

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Speaker 1: this because this is just gonna hang over the franchise.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna hang over the franchise enough already,

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Speaker 1: but bringing back the same cast of characters, it's like

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Speaker 1: a cloud, like the cloud that follows pig Pen, you

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Speaker 1: know in the in the Peanuts, Like that's what's gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: and that that's why the Knicks had no choice, And

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Speaker 1: I understand it. I'm not surprised with the fire and

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Speaker 1: Tips because some losses are just so bad you have

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Speaker 1: of those losses. I like that you said, and the

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Speaker 1: Peanuts kind of like you were going, it's not said

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Speaker 1: not just peanuts, the peanuts.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's it's the thing we've.

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Speaker 1: Talked about for a month is that you had eighty

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Speaker 1: two games to try to see what else was on

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Speaker 1: the roster instead of grinding out win in game fifty five, right,

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Speaker 2: Middle of the season, Hey you play forty two. Well,

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Speaker 2: at no point did you develop continuity. And we saw

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Speaker 2: it exacerbated when Brunson had to leave a game for

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Speaker 2: a short period with an injury. It was like, they

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Speaker 2: look absolutely lost. Right. You had several turnovers in a row,

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Speaker 2: as if it was the Spider Man meme come to life.

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Speaker 2: No continuity there. And so when all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: we need some depth. Cat picked up his requisite too,

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Speaker 2: play defense and he's in foul trouble. All of those

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Speaker 2: things to say, it's an imperfectly structured roster. And we've

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Speaker 2: been clear about that, talking about that the whole season.

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Speaker 2: For those that live and die by.

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Speaker 1: Jason's Knicks fandom and Mets fandom, but Knicks fandom.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you being part of the show. That means

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Speaker 2: you listen a lot if you get triggered by it,

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Speaker 2: So thank you. Just stay with us because it's gonna

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a wild off season. But for this move,

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Speaker 2: you try to figure out what's next. The roster is

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Speaker 2: the under the microscope here as to what kind of

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Speaker 2: depth and where we're looking at for the NBA and

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Speaker 2: things changing with these two teams that'll square off starting Thursday,

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Speaker 2: when you're running ten sometimes eleven deep right and fast

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Speaker 2: break points and ability to get out of that versus

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Speaker 2: all right, slow the ball down and take nothing from brunts,

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Speaker 2: and you can decide whether you want him on your

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Speaker 2: top five in the game today. Jason put that poll

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Speaker 2: question out on air last week. But it's just that

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Speaker 2: what's the direction going forward? And with Thibodeaux as the

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Speaker 2: this squad in New York, that's just not gonna stand right.

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Speaker 2: The expectation really went through the roof after beating the

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Speaker 2: hated Celtics, and that game one loss will forever stain

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Speaker 2: whatever legacy. Now Cat got him fired twice so that

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Speaker 2: we should remember that. It's like this guy again, all right,

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Speaker 2: and you know all all the things we've talked about.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can only hide him so long, and defensively,

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Speaker 2: that was the reason he didn't fit with what Minnesota

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Speaker 2: to piece it together. But again, if you're only gonna

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Speaker 2: cover up defensive lacking uh issues by Brunson and Cat

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Speaker 2: now it's to the next iteration of the Knicks. And

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Speaker 2: it was fun watching all the names. As you said,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, freight, where we're done? Where was Stephen A.

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Speaker 2: All right, righty stephen A is sixty to one, sixty.

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Speaker 2: Really he's not on the short list I'm looking at here.

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Speaker 1: Wait, stephen A. Smith has shorter odds than Doc Rivers.

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Speaker 5: It was abominable. It was repulsive.

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Speaker 1: It was uncited, it was grungy, it was deplorable like that.

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Speaker 2: I think that's also how he described the press release

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling you reason number one. That's why sometimes

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Speaker 2: We got it.

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Speaker 1: Stop saying doc stop with it. No, no, no, we

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Speaker 1: Hashtag Alonso RBI single, Hashtago, Tani strikeout looking, let's hashtag

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Speaker 1: Call her buddy Evan Rosenbloom at TMZ and you come

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Speaker 1: stupid because the Dolphins are only doing this, that they're

435
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Speaker 1: tanking and the Steelers are doing it. Who knows why.

436
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Speaker 1: I don't know why we don't have a quarterback. But

437
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Speaker 1: now let's get another tight end. Is that gonna work

438
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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers? Does Aaron Rodgers never really threw the

439
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Speaker 1: ball to one tight end. Let let alone, he's gonna

440
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Speaker 1: throw it to two guys. Come on, man, what is

441
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Speaker 1: what is happening?

442
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Speaker 2: Being?

443
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Speaker 1: Teams have lost their minds. That's why this entire story

444
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Speaker 1: it was stupid then okay, clear clear has prevailed.

445
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: Now it's stupid again. Yeah, looking at it from the

446
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Speaker 2: Dolphins side, because they've got so much swirling. Right, you

447
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: had the season with Tua tonguea Vailoa missed some games,

448
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Speaker 2: but all in all, you know he's ready to roll.

449
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Speaker 1: You've got tyreek Hill who's been on a pr Let's

450
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Speaker 1: clean up a bunch of mess in the background.

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Speaker 2: Here is Hey, I'm happy to be here. But is

452
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Speaker 2: he a post June first? Right now we're June third?

453
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Speaker 2: Is he gonna get dealt? Right? There's been a lot

454
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Speaker 2: of talk about that. And Jalen Wattle disappeared a year ago, right,

455
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Speaker 2: his numbers were down. So is the the dooom come

456
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Speaker 2: off the rose? That was Mike McDaniel, Right, he was

457
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Speaker 2: supposed to revolutionize thing. He was the super genius. He

458
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Speaker 2: staks and that's with the top five running back in

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Speaker 2: a chan Right. So, so you've got a passing game

460
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Speaker 2: that isn't working. You're not setting the league up fire,

461
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Speaker 2: you're getting passed by the Patriots in their rebuild and

462
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Speaker 2: whatever Vrabel's able to do. And the Yets might have

463
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: more explosive plays in their offense with Justin Fields under

464
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Speaker 2: center than what you've been building for several years. So yeah,

465
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Speaker 2: let's trade an all Pro guy who caught eighty eight

466
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Speaker 2: balls and kept the chains moving to at least give

467
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Speaker 2: you a puncher's chance at a bunch of games.

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Speaker 1: So none of it, none of it makes sense. None

469
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Speaker 1: of this makes that now, unless, hey, you're tanking. If

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Speaker 1: you're the Dolphins, which, wow, man, a year ago they

471
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Speaker 1: were the up and coming I still can't get over

472
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Speaker 1: the fact that they were so a year ago. Now

473
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Speaker 1: is watch out for the Dolphins. Their speed, they're revolutionized

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And now maybe they're tanking. Maybe maybe

475
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Speaker 1: they're gonna wind up tanking, and the Steelers just continue

476
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Speaker 1: to prove that, Look, we really don't know what we're doing.

477
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Speaker 1: We just come to work every day and just you know,

478
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Speaker 1: who knows, We don't know. We whatever decide whoever we

479
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Speaker 1: decide that sounds good to us, we're gonna do whether

480
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Speaker 1: or not it makes sense for the team or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as you need to do.

482
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Speaker 1: Without a quarterback. It's absolutely fine. Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: Do you think instead of the sign like the at

484
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame where it's just play like a champion today

485
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 2: that everybody has to slide about, it's like we're not

486
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: having a losing season and you slap that on your

487
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Speaker 2: way through the door to go decide how you're building

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Speaker 2: your roster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just go five hundred. Five hundred is our chat.

490
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Speaker 1: Like every push up they finish eight, I'm willing to give.

491
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Speaker 1: I'm willing to get benefit that they go nine and eighty.

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Speaker 1: They go, okay, nine and eight, nine and eight, nine

493
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Speaker 1: and eight, I'm willing to say that they'll go that far.

494
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Speaker 2: It's just amazing, though, right, and we see all sorts

495
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: of ridiculous trade trade offers and rumors and things out there,

496
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Speaker 2: and it's trying to go through and parse through the noise,

497
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Speaker 2: and usually it's pretty obvious when it's bogus. This one

498
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: has been reported very widely, and you've got two franchises

499
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Speaker 2: that seemingly are in no man's land, like the Rogers thing.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a handshake deal and eventually we get

501
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Speaker 2: to that point and now it's just everybody's being held

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Speaker 2: hostage in the news cycles.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And it gives us one thing that is a consistent thread,

505
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Speaker 2: waiting on OTAs into training camp, which is still along

506
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Speaker 2: seven eight weeks away. But this for the Dolphins, it

507
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Speaker 2: really makes no sense in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: You're what you're tanking to get into the quarterbacks who

509
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Speaker 2: may or may not be any good Arch Manning, have

510
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Speaker 2: we seen enough? Yeah, he runs fast. That's the highest

511
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Speaker 2: compliment you can throw him right now. He's faster than

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Speaker 2: the other Mannings. I don't I don't think that's the

513
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Speaker 2: cell point for Hey, let's tank right. Every other quarterback

514
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Speaker 2: has a giant question mark and we're like, all right,

515
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Speaker 2: we're gonna pop them up because you know they may

516
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Speaker 2: get there, but none of them have the requisite starts. Right,

517
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Speaker 2: we always talk twenty five thirty be in the benchmark.

518
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Speaker 2: They all still have a lot of prove it. Rch

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Speaker 2: Manning is the king of that great pedigree, great program.

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Speaker 1: Historically, it would say that he doesn't actually come out

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Speaker 1: even if he has a great season based on the

522
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Speaker 1: family's track record. Oh yeah, right, So I mean like

523
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Speaker 1: you may be raising and it's like, oh, we're number

524
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Speaker 1: one It's like, yeah, he's decided to go back to school.

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Speaker 1: Not damn it all the hell, especially especially coming out

526
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Speaker 1: of that Cooper Flag report that he reported he reportedly

527
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Speaker 1: made twenty eight to thirty million dollars. You're telling me

528
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Speaker 1: Arch isn't creeping up towards that money at Texas. Oh,

529
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Speaker 1: of course he is. Of course he is good.

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Speaker 2: So you know the wait, I can stand another year

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Speaker 2: and do that when the rookie wage scale has dictated

532
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Speaker 2: by the NFL. What I stay here another year? I'm

533
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Speaker 2: better off.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio studio.

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Speaker 2: Again, none of it.

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Speaker 1: But if you're.

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Speaker 2: Tanking Dolphins, congratulations.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more on Tom Thibodeau coming up in a

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Speaker 1: couple of seconds, but right now, time to find out

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Speaker 1: what's trending in the wide world of sports. A guy

542
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Speaker 1: who's been called the TIBs of Fox Sports Radio because

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Speaker 1: he's not working tomorrow either.

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Speaker 2: It's deep to.

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Speaker 6: Say they call me mister Tibbs. After five years in

546
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Speaker 6: New York, the Knicks fired their head coach Tom Thibodeau today.

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Speaker 6: Last summer, he signed a three year contract extension through

548
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty eight. New York's had back to back fifty

549
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Speaker 6: win seasons for the first time since nineteen ninety five,

550
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Speaker 6: and the Nicks just made the East Finals. Indiana's in

551
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Speaker 6: the NBA Finals starting Thursday at Oklahoma City, and then

552
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Speaker 6: Game two of the series will be Sunday. Indiana, by

553
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Speaker 6: the Way in the finals for the first time since

554
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Speaker 6: two thousand. Guard Tyrese Haliburton was born in two thousand three.

555
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 6: WNBA games tonight eight and oh Minnesota won again beating

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Speaker 6: Phoenix eighty eight sixty five. Indiana with a home win

557
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Speaker 6: over Washington eighty five seventy six. Caitlin Clark still out

558
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Speaker 6: with the string quad. The late game has Dallas at

559
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Speaker 6: one in six, leading at Seattle thirty eight to thirty

560
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Speaker 6: at the half. The Stanley Cup Finals starts Wednesday, Florida

561
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Speaker 6: at Edmonton. The NHL Awards by the Way will be

562
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 6: held just before game four of the series. US women's

563
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Speaker 6: soccer has won four nothing tonight over Jamaica at an

564
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Speaker 6: exhibition in Saint Louis. Number two see Carlos Alcarez won

565
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 6: his quarterfinal at the French Open, beating American Tommy Paul

566
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Speaker 6: in straight sets.

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Speaker 3: For Vikings.

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Speaker 6: Defensive end, Jim Marshall died at the age of eighty seven.

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Speaker 6: He played two hundred and seventy straight games with Minnesota

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Speaker 6: through nineteen seventy nine. As for the games in progress

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Speaker 6: in the major leagues, the Royals lead ten to seven

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00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 6: at Saint Louis in the bottom of the eighth. Mariners

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Speaker 6: and Orioles tied one to one bottom of the third.

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Speaker 6: Houston is even with Seattle for the moment in the

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Speaker 6: Al West standings. Houston has won three nothing at Pittsburgh,

576
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Speaker 6: beating Paul Skeins, who had eight strikeouts in eight innings.

577
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 6: But Skeens is four and six despite lowering his ERA

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Speaker 6: to two point h five.

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Speaker 3: The Astros must have cheated steven.

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Speaker 6: The Giants are up to nothing on the Padres in

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Speaker 6: the top of the fourth. A's out to an early

582
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Speaker 6: one nothing lead on the Twins bottom of the second.

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Speaker 6: The A's have lost eighteen of nineteen. Yay, but Colorado

584
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 6: won on the road again. You know, before last night

585
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 6: they were three and twenty eight in the road games

586
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 6: this year. They've won two straight at Miami three to two.

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00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 6: Tonight's final Rockies had ended in eight game losing streak.

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00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 6: Last night, Cubs won eight three at Washington. Cincinnati over

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00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 6: Milwaukee four to two. That ends the Brewers' eight game

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Speaker 6: winning streak. As Red center fielder TJ. Friedel robbed a

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Speaker 6: two run homer, catching the final out. The Yankees held

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00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 6: on three to two over Cleveland. The same to Devin Williams,

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Speaker 6: although he allowed to run in the ninth. Yankee closer

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Speaker 6: Luke Weavers on the injured list with a strain hamstring.

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Speaker 6: Bryce Harper of the Phillies returned after the Bruce delbo

596
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 6: and Tonight homered in the first. In fact, Philadelphia scored

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Speaker 6: six times in the top of the first and won

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Speaker 6: at Toronto eight three. That ends the Blue Jays five

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Speaker 6: game winning streak. Arizona and Tampa Bay each one. Angels

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Speaker 6: won in ten at Boston four to three. The White

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Speaker 6: Sox beat Detroit eight to one. The White Sox won

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Speaker 6: nothing in the six and beat a Tigers team that

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Speaker 6: entered with a record of forty and twenty one, while

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Speaker 6: the White Sox were.

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Speaker 3: Just eighteen and forty two.

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Speaker 6: And we can update the game at Dodger Stadium first

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Speaker 6: and left.

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00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: This is actual news.

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Speaker 6: The Dodgers canceled batting practice because of pregame rain no

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Speaker 6: rain rece evening.

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Speaker 1: Well, now they're having batting practice in the first inning

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Speaker 1: and for Mets.

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Speaker 6: The Tyler McGill show. Well, he's allowed four runs in

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Speaker 6: the first inning. And yeah there was the early home run,

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Speaker 6: the early run scored I should say by New York

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Speaker 6: the Lonzo RBI single set up by Clayton Kershaw, wild pitch.

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Speaker 6: But it's now Dodgers for one over the Mets. In

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Speaker 6: the bottom of the first, Max Munsey with a two

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Speaker 6: run homer, his eighth of the year.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, gee, thanks Steve, I appreciate that. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: So remember it's ty lore correct because it's Tyler. But

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Speaker 1: every time I see his name and pause and the

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Speaker 1: other McGill is actually better. So you know, we have

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Speaker 1: the two McGill brothers, we have the one, and his.

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Speaker 6: First inning is going down in some lore.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, nicely.

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Speaker 2: Gun.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, look, we talked about the big reason why

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Speaker 1: Tibbs got fired by the Knicks, because so stop with

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Speaker 1: that their better stop. Stop you upset the Laker fan.

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Speaker 1: Just stop.

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Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with the Lakers. The Nicks.

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Speaker 1: We were in the Eastern Conference finals. Man, it's not

634
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Speaker 1: like sixties.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were beating the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: Dude, we were dude.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't beat any but you couldn't get out of

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Speaker 1: the first round against a guy who shows up when.

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Speaker 3: He feels starts with dude.

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Speaker 1: Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. No, it's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: I want you to be serious.

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Speaker 2: Are you okay?

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Speaker 1: You okay? Bro?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 3: You he was this guy.

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Speaker 1: Bro's gonna keep Pascal siakaming you.

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Speaker 2: You okay? Bro? You You're cool. You're good. Bro.

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Speaker 4: You guys got TIBs fired. The only well it look

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Speaker 4: five bombs in the bench.

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Speaker 1: This is the only part of this that I'm upset

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Speaker 1: about today, because again I told you I wasn't surprised.

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Speaker 2: I'm not uplook.

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Speaker 1: The Knicks need a clean start because of this loss

654
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: was just so bad. I'm okay with the new direction,

655
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Speaker 1: and it's fine. Here's the only reason I hate Tibbs

656
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Speaker 1: getting fired because it gives the bleeping Pacers another w right,

657
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Speaker 1: because it was not only did we beat the Knicks,

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Speaker 1: not only did we win against our all time rival,

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Speaker 1: not only did we win in a way which embarrasses them.

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Speaker 1: We got through the choke sign again. Now Halliburton and

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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller can sign pictures together a card shows for

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Speaker 1: the next thirty years and make money. We'll split this money. No, no,

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Speaker 1: now it's oh, we got TIBs fired. Like it's another

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Speaker 1: win for the Pacers who win, and they win without

665
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Speaker 1: class and all, and they're moving on and now they're

666
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Speaker 1: just saying, oh, yeah, look now we got TIBs fired

667
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: and they're laughing going into the NBA Finals. That's the

668
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Speaker 1: only thing I'm upset about is that it gives the

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Speaker 1: Pacers another w.

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Speaker 2: Because they got TIBs fired. Well, but it was inevitable, right,

671
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Speaker 2: It's the Fano snap. And I guess if you can

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00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: trade on this, look, if they go out and get

673
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: absolutely curb stumped by OKC, it has its weight to

674
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Speaker 2: a point, right, because the sting of getting absolutely dominated

675
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: by SGA and the greatness that is the combination of

676
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: Chet and lou Dort will will send them into oblivion.

677
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: So the short lived successes of vanquishing the Knicks, it's

678
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: not really gonna stay. Now we see them in the

679
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: playoffs matched up again next year. Sure there's a lot

680
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: of run and you'll get some good b roll of

681
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: TIBs with his arms folded added Game one and the

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Speaker 2: crowd height video. There's no question about that. A distraught

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Speaker 2: Chalameat or Spike Lee or whatever else they do with

684
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Speaker 2: his little train conductor hat on, all of those things

685
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Speaker 2: will be there.

686
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Speaker 1: But you can't live there like this.

687
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: This is where you knew it was gonna happen.

688
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: The Knicks fan base was calling for change, and the obvious's.

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00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: Cat, which we talked about yesterday, we stayed on the

690
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: roster side because we'd been doing the coaching ability of

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Speaker 2: Tibbs even with that extension. So he goes into the

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Speaker 2: Business Hall of Fame. Now. But all of that to say,

693
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Speaker 2: it's it's you'll get over it. Why because you need

694
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: to claw back against the Dodgers. You have more pressing

695
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: issues now. You have to try to spoil kershaw day.

696
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: You can't worry about what what the uh the Pacers

697
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: did to your Knicks anymore.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Well, unfortunately this.

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Speaker 2: Is a story. I mean, it's not only so much

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Speaker 2: I can do.

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Speaker 1: This is I'm saying for your own person, is a

702
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: psychology of this that you have to I mean, you

703
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Speaker 1: have to let it go. You were ready for Kenny

704
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: Atkinson to be hired away from Cleveland or or whatever

705
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: might happen, right, I mean, it's it's inevitable.

706
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it is Doc Rivers, maybe it's Stephen A. Smith.

707
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Maybe it's your guy Danny Hurley, because I know you

708
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: lit candles. You went down and found a bodega that

709
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: had Danny Hurley votive candles and lit those all across

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Speaker 2: your your little, uh you know, room with with Nick's memorabilia.

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Speaker 2: I have no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming

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Speaker 1: up next, we got the play of the day, And

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Speaker 1: I didn't think you could have a quarterback controversy when

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Speaker 1: you sign a guide to one hundred million dollar contract,

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Speaker 1: But maybe that's going on in one NFL city.

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Speaker 2: That's next right here, Jason to Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: when you win by seven and you score seven two

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Speaker 2: Who oh sure Ben and tends he's in the middle

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Speaker 2: of everything. Oh oh sorry, well what was What was

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Speaker 2: funny is there's a bit of excitement and he actually

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Speaker 2: had to call a play because the overwhelming criticism after

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Speaker 2: they got throttled by the Tigers yesterday was he was

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Speaker 2: just silent, so in saltea and soft. So it was

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Speaker 2: the eight second sign off. Yeah, let's send it to

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Speaker 2: Chuck and Ozzie to break it down. It's like, wow,

771
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Speaker 2: that's the quickest anybody's ever gotten out of a booth

772
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Speaker 2: in the history of man.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, eight one win, White Sock gradulate. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the biggest highlight of the year for you.

775
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: Like if no, it's if they were doing NFL yearbook

776
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: for the White Sox, it would start with this game

777
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: best team in baseball, Detroit Tiger's best record, and.

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00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: Show you beating them. Hey, all right, Unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: All year was not this way for the White Sox,

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Speaker 1: but they are taking flight. That would be your NFL films.

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Speaker 2: Come on, Michael Taylor, who they gave a contract after

782
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: he hit him buck ninety three for Pittsburgh last year

783
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: with a big day to day. Yeah, I'll believe it

784
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: at that.

785
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: Now, speaking of the NFL, you didn't think the Seahawks

786
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: would have some kind of quarterback controversy, but apparently they

787
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: do so. Head coach Mike McDonald was on Seattle Sports

788
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: seven to ten am earlier today and was asked if

789
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: anything other than an injury between now and the start

790
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: of the season could lead the Seahawks to go with

791
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: another quarterback instead of Sam Darnald, who they just gave

792
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: three years and one hundred and ten million dollars too.

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00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: H McDonald said, no, you guys are crazy. It's just

794
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. I respect. You got to ask the question.

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00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: Sam is our starting quarterback. We love him.

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00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: He's doing a tremendous job. Ah. Yes, and no, he's.

797
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: Not looked great so far, up and down in OTAs

798
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: making some good plays. Other times he is struggling. But

799
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: of course he's gonna be the starting quarterback, right they

800
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: gave the guy three years and one hundred and ten

801
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: million dollars.

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00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: Of course he's gonna start. You know.

803
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: The big thing to understand out of this and this

804
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: is what you know. This is what comes up with

805
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: the the the perils of signing a guy who puts

806
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: one big year together in his fourth system and plays well.

807
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: Sam Darnald is not a good quarterback. Sam Darnald is

808
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: a good quarterback in the right system. And you can

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Speaker 1: sit here and say, well, we projected he'll do Okay,

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00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: He's not throwing up to Justin Jefferson anymore. Yes, Jackson Smith,

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Speaker 1: the JIGBA is really good. Yeah, I mean, the Seahawks

812
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: have talent, but this is not the up and down

813
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Speaker 1: the field offense where he fit last year with Minnesota

814
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Speaker 1: and to think that, yeah, he could do it. Remember,

815
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Speaker 1: he's not a good quarterback. He's good in the right system,

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Speaker 1: and so far there's been one system of all the

817
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: teams he's been on that he's been good for. So yeah,

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00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: this is why I'm a little suspicious and a little

819
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Speaker 1: apprehensive to say, all of a sudden, Sam Darnald's great.

820
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: You know the OTA stories. I remember these Ota stories

821
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: from the Jets. Boy Sam Darnald made a couple of

822
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: good throws here with boy OTAs he struggled. Remember, he's

823
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: only good in the right He's not a quarterback that's

824
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: good anywhere. He's not a good quarterback that if you

825
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: take him out of a team and bring him somewhere else,

826
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Speaker 1: he signs for a lot of money. Hey, he's a

827
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: good quarterback. He is good in the right system, and

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Speaker 1: the jury is out if this is the right system

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Speaker 1: for him in Seattle. Well, I mean, remember they go

830
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Speaker 1: back to twenty twelve where we had Matt Flynn signed

831
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Speaker 1: into a big deal and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was the So.

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Speaker 2: I mean it can happen. History can repeat itself.

834
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Speaker 1: And Sam Darnold, I really thought this was going to

835
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Speaker 1: be a dating thing, because it didn't when there was

836
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Speaker 1: something that started circulating about celebrities and whatever, and then

837
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Speaker 1: a bunch of articles about the woman he is currently

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Speaker 1: in a relationship with.

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Speaker 2: So you always have that circling in the background for

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Speaker 2: all all of that.

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Speaker 1: But for for Seattle, Yeah, this is not the controversy

842
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: you want.

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Speaker 2: I get it. It gives us some headlines for for

844
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Speaker 2: you and I to talk about them. In Seattle. It's like,

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Speaker 2: we spent this money on a quarterback to come in

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Speaker 2: and you've got a pretty good system, right, you got

847
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Speaker 2: a pretty good roster division that's going to be held

848
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Speaker 2: to get through, there's no question about that. Oh and

849
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Speaker 2: you traded away a big piece of what your offense was,

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00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: you know, not that that's a you know, something to

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00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: really lament at this stage.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, he's one for five and that's what

853
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: it is. It's a That's why it's a huge gamble

854
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: for sam Guard. Look, I get why they did what

855
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: they did. They wanted to move on Ginosmith only got

856
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: him so far. But man, you gotta remember that's what

857
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: reminds you. This is a huge risk. It's an absolutely

858
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: huge risk going on in Seattle and all of a sudden,

859
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: Now you got people saying, hey, could he not be

860
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Speaker 1: the quarterback beginning of the season. That's insane.

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00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 2: Well, but it's good to have these things to fester

862
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: and give us stuff to talk about. Where does he

863
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: rank in fantasy purposes?

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Speaker 1: Up next, we get back to the biggest story of

865
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Speaker 1: the day, the two names I would like to see take.

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Speaker 2: Over for tims in New York.

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Speaker 1: Wait, are you ahead of me? Oh, you're ahead of me.

868
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 2: Frosburg, you're ahead of me. Back back back back, Brack

869
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: God Jan.

870
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: Soto a two run homer off for Kershaw. That's his

871
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: first yet. I think that that's his first hit as a.

872
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: Met Actually I don't think.

873
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: Wow, he should go get the ball from the guy

874
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: in the stands probably Zach Hampell has it.

875
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 2: See he just stole the back page from TIBs though, Yeah,

876
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 2: because it's like, hey, he can't yet, yeah, yeah.

877
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it will be, It will be, it will be, uh,

878
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: you know, it will say Tom to go or you know,

879
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: something like that. And then and then in the top

880
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: Sodo catching fire like in a real tiny font.

881
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

882
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: That's I don't think in New York they know what

883
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Kershaw Day is, don't course, I don't think they. I

884
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: don't think they celebrate New York. They do, but I

885
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: don't think they celebrate it like that, you know they

886
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: they you know, would just be hey.

887
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 3: So universally celebrated.

888
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: Everybody, everybody, we're all celebrating Kershaw Day. We're celebrating celebrating.

889
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: Uh So, Look, the Knicks fired tips today, right, And

890
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: and you know we talked about it that, we talked

891
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: about it over a week ago. I'm not surprised because

892
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: the loss was so bad. The game one loss of

893
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: the Pacers was so all time NBA bad. Sometimes you

894
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: can't come back from it, right, and you need to

895
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: be able to have a clean slate for next year.

896
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: It's a really big and and I you know, we

897
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: usually talk about it with players when they make mistakes

898
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: or a team loses, but that's the number one thing

899
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: they The Knicks need a break, a clean break after

900
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: this devastating loss of the Pacers. Need a clean, clean slate.

901
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: I get it.

902
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: So now when you talk about who's next, right, you know, Look,

903
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: the most fun part of today was seeing was just

904
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: watching Twitter and seeing the names change every few minutes

905
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: and all the all the all the basketball names. I go, oh,

906
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 1: here's a few thousand people that think this guy should

907
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: be the head coach of the Knicks. You know here, Oh,

908
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: here's Rick Patino's name coming up to the Sure Rick Patino,

909
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: why not? Metaworld Peace says, I want all the smoke, right,

910
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: I want to be the Knicks head coach, and he

911
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: goes on to talk about games he won, including winning

912
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: one I think it was some high school championship or

913
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: something that he won where he said, and we won

914
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: this where there was no security.

915
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: No security. We made sure to point out there was

916
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: no security, like that's necessary to get get over Yeah. No,

917
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: but I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't

918
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: know what that means. I don't.

919
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, winning with you know, winn

920
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: winning when there was no security, Like, hey, there was

921
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: a really bad game. The two teams didn't like each other.

922
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: They were gonna be fights after. We had no security.

923
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: We didn't know if we were gonna get out of

924
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: there alive because we won this game. Like, I guess

925
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: that's what it means, no secre I guess that's what

926
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: that means, right, I have no idea.

927
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a a curious uh, space that we're

928
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: operating in. Uh, we can probably find him and get

929
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: him to come on and make his gaze. It's not

930
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: like a political palace, oh man, Yeah, I mean it's

931
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: it's not like a political office where we have to

932
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: then get the other ninety seven candidate's equal time. I

933
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: think he could just do one.

934
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: We can get doc Rivers a lot of time, like no,

935
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: stop stop.

936
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers is not he's not even on the list. Man,

937
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: he's not even on the list.

938
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: You don't have the list.

939
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: Then you are tampering with doc Rivers right now. Maybe

940
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: you get doc Rivers that a JJ Reddick. Maybe I

941
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: could do that. Hey, JJ, how about that my pal

942
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick who loves me. How about I do that?

943
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: Get you're replaced by Doc Rivers with the Lakers, how

944
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: about that?

945
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: You can go coach the Bucks? Be fun. See now,

946
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: now you're just trying to bring your anger on Justin.

947
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: He didn't do anything. Yeah, he trying to. He's just

948
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: talking about it. That's available.

949
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: You're trying to put doc doc Rivers has a job.

950
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: Shockingly so Doc Rivers still has a job. You're trying

951
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: to give him to us.

952
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: Now, I don't do that.

953
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't want any of that, Doc Rivers, smoke, I

954
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: don't want any of that. You cannot of want that.

955
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't want him near my play I would if

956
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: I was doing a fantasy league and I to take

957
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: head coat we were drafting head coaches, I wouldn't want

958
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: him because I wouldn't want him near my players on

959
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: my fantasy team. But that doesn't matter. Don't want to

960
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to see his name next to the

961
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: guys they're gonna play in my fantasy team. I would

962
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with Doc Rivers. Get that out

963
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: of here.

964
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: Man, Come all right, you want to have a little

965
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: bit of fun with the current odds as uh put

966
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: up by DraftKings.

967
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'll tell you the two guys that are

968
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: that are really interesting to me that I would love

969
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: to see one of these two guys get the get gut.

970
00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: Leader in the clubhouse currently Mike Malone. He's not like

971
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: he has a coaching spot. Again, look Danny Hurley and

972
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: and Michael Malone. Of course they're gonna be nominated because

973
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: well but he's but further down the list. He's got

974
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 2: worse odds than Rick Brunson.

975
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, well Rick Brunts is not getting the

976
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: Jan Budenholzer Budenhols is not getting the job, and Jay

977
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Wright the look. Jay Wright would be the first call

978
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: and the Knicks would be making coaching mal practice if

979
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: they didn't call Jay Wright. Obviously, the Villanova connection. He's

980
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: a guy who's sharp. He gets the big market. Jay right,

981
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: Jay Wright watching him coach, he is a He is

982
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: a coaching gangster, right, Like that's what he like. I

983
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: think a Jay Glazer. That guy's such a gangster, Like

984
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: like meeting a guy he's so tough and he's so

985
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: cool and he demands respect.

986
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: Like that's what I think.

987
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: Jay Wright is a gangster, right, So that's the guy

988
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: I would want to Obviously, you have to make a

989
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: call for him. Now, Look, Hurley would be fun, be

990
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: fun to see him standing there looking staring up at

991
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Townsend yelling at him for not playing defense,

992
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: like just screaming at him in his face. But like

993
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: Danny Hurley and Mike Maloney, they're like the two, they're

994
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: like two of the same kind of versions of Tibbs, right,

995
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: because TIBs is a guy, he was grouchy, he was

996
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, he would preach defense and he would be

997
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: kind of a hard ass. And it's kind of tough

998
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: to have a hard ass followed by a hard ass, right,

999
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: It's it's really difficult to do. Usually when you make changes,

1000
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: you make a change because okay, we're going from the

1001
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: hard ass coach the players coach. Then when Matt doesn't work,

1002
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: you go from the players coach back to the hard

1003
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: ass coach. So I feel like Malone is kind of

1004
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: some of the same thing. And basically, look, I mean

1005
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: the guy talked about near the end of the time

1006
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: before he got fired that he didn't like his players.

1007
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: No, that's the thing, right, Many.

1008
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: Of the clips come back to you really want this No,

1009
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: that's not gonna play man, He's gonna call out guys

1010
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: not wanting to watch film and not play defense, not

1011
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: rot Yeah, that's what you want to do with this squad?

1012
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, og, you're fine, You're good. You guys over here,

1013
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know what you How ugly

1014
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 2: does that get? I mean it'd be great for New York.

1015
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: You are talking about in a media fire scorod as

1016
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: we went.

1017
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: Thirty five games, what happened to this team?

1018
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: No?

1019
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: But like it's it's kind of the same thing. And

1020
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: for look, when you had to fire a coach three

1021
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: games before the end of the regular season, suddenly you

1022
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: turn on to give that guy a job. It's like

1023
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: when the Jets said, oh man, Adam Gase got fired.

1024
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: Oh good for him. He was terrible with the dog.

1025
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: Oh we just hired him. Oh okay, great, Like he

1026
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: didn't get at any time to learn what he did

1027
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: wrong stuff to do for the next job. That basically,

1028
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: oh hey, yeah, Adam Gase was so bad he got

1029
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: fired by an Indivision coach.

1030
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: We're hiring as our next head coach.

1031
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: And the guy still and I told you when he

1032
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: got fired, he's not working in the NFL again.

1033
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: Where's Adam Gase?

1034
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: Right?

1035
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: Told you what's it gonna happen?

1036
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: Because it was so bad?

1037
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: But like Taco Tuesday, it is Taco Tuesday.

1038
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: Uh.

1039
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, Malone and and and Hurley would kind of

1040
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: be like another version of Tims. Right, you need something

1041
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: a little bit different, And I'll give you two guys

1042
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: that I'd be excited about. And they're they're they're not

1043
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: some of the names off the top, but their names well, well,

1044
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: Steven A. Smith got the gig. That'd be awesome because

1045
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: he's on that list at sixty to one. That would

1046
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: be really really good. Uh, there's not gonna be practice,

1047
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: just gonna be debates. They're just gonna show up and

1048
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: with no practice, just gonna debate. We're just gonna debate

1049
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: and that's it. And and and Molly Carol will be

1050
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: there with him, and she'll sit next to him, and

1051
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: there he will be debating with Rick Brunston, with h

1052
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunston to practice and he leaves, and an added

1053
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: nobody comes.

1054
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: It will be a big debate. You get to argue

1055
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: your way into the starting line of.

1056
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Oh see, there you go. There you go, win the debate,

1057
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: get in the starting lineup. There you go, man, there

1058
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: you go.

1059
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 2: Embrace debate on a whole other level.

1060
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: That'd be the new They would be wearing T shirts

1061
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: on the bench with the embraced debates like it's it's

1062
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, Nick Strong or you know,

1063
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: playoffs and embrace totag Embrace debate with a picture of

1064
00:49:55,120 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: Steven Asmith's head he came to practice with then inarguable,

1065
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: uh and in you know, an argument that we could

1066
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: not possibly break in any way, shape or form. So

1067
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: he earned his minutes tonight.

1068
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 3: I've got on good authority. That sucks.

1069
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: So the two guys i'd be excited about. And again

1070
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: there they're not two guys that that you would you

1071
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: would think off the top of your well, this is

1072
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: who Jason likes. First guy. Honestly, No, no, no, no.

1073
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: If you said to me pick a name out of

1074
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: a hat or Doc Rivers, I would say give me

1075
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: the hat and I'll put my whatever I come out with.

1076
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: That's a coach. No, I don't want I don't want

1077
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers near my team. I don't want to even

1078
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: keep saying his name on the air because thinking that

1079
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: maybe Dolan's gonna listen and hear it and say, okay,

1080
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: we already know jj Reddick.

1081
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: Listen, Dolan knows who Doc Rivers is.

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00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: Oh, oh that is true. That is true. He doesn't.

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00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might know Glen Rivers.

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00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: He might know.

1085
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: He might he might he might know uh Rivers, Cuomo,

1086
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he might know Uh yeah, I mean

1087
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't.

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00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: I'm trying to.

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00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: You might know Joan Rivers or three Rivers or Melissa

1090
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: Rivers or Riverfront Stadium or Philip Rivers, Philip Rivers or

1091
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: River Phoenix or are all his kids that are now

1092
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna start dominating the collegiate. We're ready for the Chargers quarterback.

1093
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: He's a gunner. Rivers is that kid from the Cam

1094
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: Newton commercial just loosen up my arm. He does a

1095
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: commercial with Herbert just loosening up my arm, getting ready.

1096
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: But the first guy, honestly I like, is Mike Brown.

1097
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: All right, Mike Brown is someone who is defensive minded.

1098
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: He has accomplished. He's been to an NBA final. He

1099
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: redid the the Sacramento Kings, you know, two years ago.

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00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: Mike Brown is a really good coach, right and like coaches,

1101
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: they have their ups in their downs, right there, Hey,

1102
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: a good coach for a few years, but but it

1103
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: falls on hard times you wind up getting let go.

1104
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: But he is accomplished. He is defensive, and the Knicks

1105
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: need to be more defensive. Mind like, right, what do

1106
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: you need coming in? You need some buddy that's gonna say, hey, okay,

1107
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: it was Tibs' thing, but now clearly not. How do

1108
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: you do this? And the guy's gotten farther in his

1109
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: career than Tibbs has. He's done more, He's done more

1110
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: under h you know, he's coached in La under a

1111
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, having a having a big responsibility there too.

1112
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: So he's done enough in his career, and especially because

1113
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: I like the fact that defensively they'll be really, really good,

1114
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: because everywhere he goes, his teams are good defensively. Mike

1115
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: Brown's the first guy I really like.

1116
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: No, I dig what you're trying to say there, but

1117
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: you just did the defensive guy. And clearly, unless you

1118
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: really redo this roster, you've got two very glaring problems

1119
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: with trying to run that. So I'm going the opposite way.

1120
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: I'm going Taylor Jenkins and let's and let's just go

1121
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: feed into the offense.

1122
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough, man. Ah, that's tough because the guy

1123
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: couldn't handle it in a smaller market and now he's

1124
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: gonna come in.

1125
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: He also had to deal with a lot of the

1126
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: uh off court stuff in the Jrummeran's that was a

1127
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: little different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's a little too dicey with me and

1129
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: what he couldn't handle, and that all of a sudden

1130
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: he's going to go to New York and the pressure

1131
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: cooker and figure things out there, Right, I'm dicey with that.

1132
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he and shallameo get along. Fine, Look we're running

1133
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: it up.

1134
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: But the other guy I'm really intrigued by, right because

1135
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: and look because I don't really want to reach out. Look,

1136
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: Monty Williams is a great head coach, right, but he's

1137
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: up and down and is Monty Williams the right guy here?

1138
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: It's tough, right, But the good news is there's a

1139
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: lot of guys out there that have done some things

1140
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: that you're going to get to interview. Right, there's a

1141
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of guys out there's a lot of former head coaches. Yeah,

1142
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't want, but these are guys that have all

1143
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: won we see coach. No, no, no, neither of those guys. No, no, no, no,

1144
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: no no, because then he could bring Lebron there. No no, no,

1145
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: no no. You still stop putting guys out there that

1146
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't want.

1147
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: What do you think.

1148
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: I didn't hear you?

1149
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 2: You know Steve Nash at twenty two to one again

1150
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: hot podcast guy and he can go in New York

1151
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: who he wants playing the guard? Jase? I love it.

1152
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: Stop stop stop, just stop stop with the guys that

1153
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: stop with the guy's not there.

1154
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: Well, you know you gotta dig deeper down the list.

1155
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: Stop not happening. Uh, the other the other guy honestly

1156
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: because you you've you've heard his name so much, Like

1157
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: you've heard his name so much that I'm so intrigued

1158
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: by him potentially being the next head coach of the Knicks,

1159
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: Like if if they hire if they can't get Jay Wright.

1160
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it.

1161
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: Right, So no Jay Wright, Mike Brown and another guy

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Speaker 1: He just needed this game to warm up. Dodgers leading

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Speaker 1: the Nets four to three. Bottom of the fourth inning,

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Speaker 2: Ball from him. See that doesn't happen. Do you think

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Speaker 1: Hey guess what, man, guess what You're off those all

1213
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's effort all over man. Oh yeah,

1214
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: uh now, look like I said a few minutes ago,

1215
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: look who could replace you know, TIBs in New York Now,

1216
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: and I talked about Mike Brown being somebody. Obviously Jay

1217
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: Wright is the first call. But the two guys after that,

1218
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: Michael Malone doesn't really excite me because TIBs and and

1219
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: Danny Hurley, is he really gonna yell? Was yelling at

1220
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunston. I mean, it's it's it's too similar. But

1221
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: the guy that I, honestly I really would like to

1222
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: see because he's been everybody's up and coming guy for

1223
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: a long time. He's won titles as an assistant. I

1224
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: kind of like to see Sam Cassell. I kind of

1225
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: like to see what he could do for the longest time.

1226
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: It's been boy, he's been close to a lot of

1227
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: jobs and hasn't gotten one. And maybe he's one of

1228
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: those guys that, hey, after coaching for so long, took

1229
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: him a while, ready to run his own thing. And

1230
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of cachet and players all

1231
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: remember him in his career. He instead of a retread

1232
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: that kind of comes in the let's see what you

1233
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: can do here, I kind of would like to see

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00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: Sam Cassell.

1235
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: I really though.

1236
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: Those would be if it's not Jay Wright, those would

1237
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: be the two guys that I would say, Okay, if

1238
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: it's either of them, I'm okay with that.

1239
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: If I'm the knicks lean in point guard, so can

1240
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: get the best out of Jalen Brunson. Really it all

1241
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: comes just back down and I know where it's the

1242
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: coaching job that's open. But that's not the biggest issue

1243
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: they had, right as much as that Game one debacle

1244
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: and those final ninety fifty seconds are things that are

1245
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: gonna live in the nightmares of New York. Might be

1246
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: a new horror franchise that comes out of it. To

1247
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: the theater and watch it. I don't know, you'll figure

1248
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: it out. We can, we can storyboard it. The but

1249
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: the ideas that you you have a flawed roster, right,

1250
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: and that doesn't mean that Tibbs used what he had properly,

1251
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: but I'd like to think he was smart enough that

1252
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: if he had a ninth guy that could actually play

1253
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: in substantive minutes, that he might have actually gotten off

1254
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: the bench. Uh So looking at you, uh, Leon Rose.

1255
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: But for for Sam Gassell, I'm curious to see if

1256
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: they do go down a deeper rabbit hole. Right between assistants,

1257
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: we talk about what you have on the bench in

1258
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: Cleveland and some of the favorites maybe to come off

1259
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: of there. But you know, when we look at the

1260
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Speaker 2: different on offshore odds and some of the the online marketplaces,

1261
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: it is a lot of familiar names. Hell, Jeff van

1262
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: Gundy is the third favorite.

1263
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:58,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what I mean, though, I just kind

1264
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: of saying, where where we're at with this list and

1265
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: early betting odds and some of it. It doesn't require

1266
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: a lot of money to put odds to a higher spot,

1267
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: right and to get folks excitable.

1268
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 2: But it's just curious to see all these old retread second, third,

1269
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: fourth bites at the Apple, uh making their their bones

1270
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: here in these early hours after TIB's departure.

1271
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, of course you're gonna get the names,

1272
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: and it's gonna and it's gonna be something that goes

1273
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: through the entire playoffs, the rest of the playoffs and

1274
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: the off season, like, okay, we got something great now.

1275
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: So when the when the NBA Finals is non competitive.

1276
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: It's like, man, who are the Nicks gonna get? Who?

1277
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: Suddenly the Nick? The Knick's job is so sought after,

1278
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: it's such people are gonna come out of the woodwork

1279
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: for it. I bet you look. I even saw Jackson's

1280
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: name trending earlier today, and we'll get fill back again. Yeah,

1281
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: that's great, Like everybody's gonna want this job now because

1282
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: it is so high profile. You have a lot of

1283
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: talent on this roster. Uh yeah, and you have money,

1284
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: all right, So it's it's depending on what you do

1285
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: with you know, in the off season. But this is

1286
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: something now suddenly it's wait, this is the most this

1287
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: is the most sought after job in the NBA, and

1288
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: now you got if the right coach gets there, you

1289
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: like you, We're gonna see stories of hey, they're talking

1290
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: to this coach, which means maybe Giannis is the guy

1291
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: that wants to go. I mean, you're gonna see stories

1292
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: like that. They're gonna carry us through the rest of

1293
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: the off season. So congratulations Nick. Christmas comes early to

1294
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: every NBA fan. We could talk about who the next

1295
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: coach in the Knicks is Donald but not do stop

1296
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: stop with Doc. Doctor Octopus has a better chance to

1297
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: get in the job than Doc Rivers, and he's got like.

1298
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 4: Eight Doc Rivers is the favorite.

1299
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: Well, and he can go take over Broadway again. Alfred

1300
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: Molina has had a fantastic run there.

1301
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: But it's the the idea of what this Knicks team became.

1302
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: Right we we've had the conversation other than Clyde Frazier,

1303
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: then you have Ewing and you have obviously, Carmelo Anthony,

1304
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of empty years in that fifty

1305
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: two year drought since title. So this became a well

1306
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: Jayalen Brunson for our memory is if not the top,

1307
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: Nick and folk can bristle about it, but it doesn't

1308
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: make it any less true because they recaptivated the imagination

1309
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: of people in New York, and the Knicks became a

1310
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: national story beyond Nick's.

1311
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: Homerdom like Jason Smith or other guys that are centered

1312
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: in New York. Right, it became a team that I

1313
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: think folks enjoyed watching and certainly the fans gravitated to

1314
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: in New York.

1315
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: Unlike anything we'd seen. Hope is a dangerous thing, no

1316
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: question about it.

1317
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 2: And we've seen glimpses in the past of spilling out

1318
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: into the streets after you know, first round wins and

1319
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: what have you. But this is the first time that

1320
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: there was any real hope that hey, this team is

1321
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: actually pretty good. And to suddenly have that momentum break

1322
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: like a New York City Cabby getting hit. I'm walking here,

1323
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: I'm walking here with Tims getting fired, Like okay, now,

1324
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: what's the breakneck change of direction in terms of the

1325
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: coach and the roster going forward, because you've got an

1326
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference has a lot of change, whether Giannis becomes

1327
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: a Nick or not not, you've got a balance of

1328
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: power shifting right. You've got Indiana that everybody's immediately saying, hey,

1329
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: they're gonna be around a long time. Maybe maybe not.

1330
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: I mean things going in weird directions in the NBA,

1331
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: as we've seen seven straight years that we're gonna have

1332
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: a different champion. Outside of the the MVP voting and

1333
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: Jokic with his dominance, you're seeing guys and new names

1334
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: rise to the forefront like SGA and others.

1335
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: So there is no status quota. The Celtics they lost

1336
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, he ain't coming back. The Bucks if Yannis leaves,

1337
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: well there's no Damian Lillard to pick up the slack

1338
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: and they're old.

1339
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: Look how old you become. All of that In the East,

1340
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: there's so much room. So I think for Knicks fans

1341
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: it was, hey, this is a team that that is

1342
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: set for a run, and all of a sudden it's like,

1343
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 2: well maybe not. Look at all the things that got

1344
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,919
Speaker 2: exposed in that series. Oh and we had to get

1345
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: the coach shuffled out as well. By the way, there's

1346
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: a great picture of Tom Thibodeau circulating from when he

1347
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: once had great, glorious hair and it was a mullet.

1348
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's hey, Tims, wouldn't you like to go

1349
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: back and be able to tell this guy, Hey, in

1350
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,959
Speaker 1: twenty years dude, Uh, you want to make sure Bruns

1351
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: is in the game at the end against the Pistons,

1352
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: and you want to make sure you don't blow that

1353
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: game winning its paces?

1354
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: Wait? What what?

1355
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: Who are you?

1356
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm from the future, Tim, You know what I mean.

1357
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: I got that picture with the mullet was taken right

1358
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: before this season, it.

1359
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: Was It was actually taken today after he got fired.

1360
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm growing it out now.

1361
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 3: That's what the did to him.

1362
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: Now, Frostburg, you have another candidate. Don't say Doc Rivers.

1363
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: Oh I won't.

1364
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: Okay, don't say Doc Rivers again.

1365
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 4: No, I've already said it. People know the mission. Get

1366
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 4: it out there, get it trending. Okay, are you sitting down?

1367
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,479
Speaker 1: I'm of course I'm sitting down.

1368
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. You stand up. Maybe twice a day.

1369
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm sitting down, yeah, yeah, twice an hour. Whether I

1370
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: need to or not. I'll stand up twice a day.

1371
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: Sure.

1372
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 3: I think the best fit out there is Reggie Miller.

1373
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 4: Oh would be the greatest coach ever for Miller just.

1374
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 3: And would have nightly.

1375
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: Oh Yeah, I don't know, dude. I think Spike might say, Okay,

1376
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm turning in my season tickets. I'm not gonna come

1377
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: and watch Reggie.

1378
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: Not gonna. Nobody told me the coach. No way.

1379
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: Every every practice would be we're gonna look at video

1380
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: of my great eight points.

1381
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: And nine seconds against the Knicks. We're gonna look at it.

1382
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: Do we need to see it again?

1383
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: Are we gonna practice? No?

1384
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: I need to practice. You guys are good. Let's watch

1385
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: a video again. Right here, I steal the ball. I

1386
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: drove back behind the three point line. Hit Would I

1387
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: steal the ball again? Come back by the three point line.

1388
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: That's what every practice would be.

1389
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: We don't need that. I don't need it.

1390
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 3: Games or not. They want to beat the Pacers.

1391
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: Of course I do. Reggie's not the guys. At least

1392
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: it would get him away from broadcasting big games. The

1393
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: Knick sern so I would would have to do. I

1394
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: would only have to listen to stan Van Gundy at

1395
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: that point, which is a big at least you get

1396
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: him off there. Uh du it just in big games,

1397
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: unlike the Lakers who were not in big games. But

1398
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: you want me to You don't want me to hit

1399
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: you between the eyes with something. Because you talked about

1400
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: the roster going forward, I will tell you this new

1401
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: head coach can look Leon Rose still running things. Obviously

1402
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: new head coach coming in. The Knicks know they need

1403
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: something different. The only guy on that roster who is

1404
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: safe is Jalen Brunson. Not that everybody's gonna get traded,

1405
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: but there is nobody on that roster that is safe

1406
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: besides Jalen Brunson. Everybody else can move for parts that

1407
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: are either going to be a more athletic, playmaking forward,

1408
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: a better version of a guard that could take some

1409
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: of the scoring pressure off of Jalen Brunson, a big

1410
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: that can be athletic down low and and play good defense.

1411
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: Nobody is safe outside of Jalen Brunson. Again, doesn't mean

1412
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: everybody's getting traded, they're not. But the Knicks starting five

1413
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: you had to cut in the throwing Mitchell Robinson as well. Look,

1414
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: they're all talented guys. You got some, you got some

1415
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: real lot talent there. Jalen Brunson is the only guy

1416
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: that I can tell you for certain will be on

1417
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: the next roster next season, because.

1418
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 2: Anybody else can go.

1419
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: It's a it's a new head coach who's going to

1420
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: have his own way to do things to want to

1421
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: bring the Knicks back defensively. Likely it's gonna be Karl

1422
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Towns. I told you last night, I have no

1423
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: doubt that he's gonna wind up going because he was

1424
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: an odd fit. He will bring the most back in trade,

1425
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: and you could be better defensively, uh with him not

1426
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: out there. So but nobody else is safe. It could

1427
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: be Cat going with Josh Hart, could be Cat with that,

1428
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: Unobi could be Cat with Bridges. Nobody is safe besides

1429
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson. Only guy I can say yes he'll be

1430
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: out there next year playing for the Knicks. I'm really

1431
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: surprised that you haven't done at least a five to

1432
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: seven minute monologue of how Bridges should be traded. Well,

1433
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: because he did the big games against the Celtics, right.

1434
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: You stole the ball twice at the end, winning first

1435
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: two games, and he did Celtics.

1436
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: That's like winning doesn't that get you a lifetime contract?

1437
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: Well, when you trade five first round picks, I think

1438
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: that almost is a lifetime contract.

1439
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: Well, but that's the thing, right, aren'chie kind of beholden?

1440
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: It's like, we can't, we can't just give up on

1441
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: this guy. They'll eat us alive. Well they are anyway.

1442
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: So you already have the Vegas misdirection of a letter

1443
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 2: telling everybody that you fired Tibbs. That was a nice statement.

1444
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: Did they get a non official letterhead? Yeah?

1445
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, here it is right here. Don't look at that

1446
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: always blue an orange too.

1447
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: It looks fantastic. Thank you, TIBs. Don't mind this sword

1448
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: we're gonna put right for your back. You had a

1449
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: good run. Congratulations on getting us somewhere. We haven't been

1450
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: this century.

1451
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 3: He his hair for a sec.

1452
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1453
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: Who has more hair on their head? Tibbs or Charlie Brown?

1454
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: Oh tips, he combs it over, man, Come on, you've

1455
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: seen the calm over for TIBs. One squiggle going up

1456
01:08:59,479 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: in the.

1457
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 3: Air, barely holding on to a comeover.

1458
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe, and watch, you'll watch. Maybe you'll see

1459
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: Tim's now outside of the pressures of New York. He'll

1460
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: grow his hair back. He'll be like, wow, look at

1461
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:13,480
Speaker 1: that New York man. Look at this he's walking around.

1462
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: He looks like Chevy Chase from Flets when he's playing

1463
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: for the Lakers and he's.

1464
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 2: Got the all the big hair. Yeah, go come on, man, Yeah,

1465
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: that's it.

1466
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: I get rid of the stress and my hair grew back.

1467
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: He would be like a walking advertisement for some sort

1468
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: of hair regrowth system.

1469
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 2: Well, and then he could have billboards up and down

1470
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: the freeway like Irlacker does all in Illinois.

1471
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not?

1472
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,879
Speaker 2: Right, I'm Tom Timbodeau.

1473
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: There's people in Chicago saying bring him back because you'll

1474
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: get ten years of coaches.

1475
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: At this point, what do you got? Steve Kerr? Billy

1476
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 2: Donovan's like second or third I think right now in

1477
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: terms of longest tenur dead coaches.

1478
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

1479
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: Stop?

1480
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: Stop?

1481
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: You said you weren't going to mention him. You said, no,

1482
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,759
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna mention Doc Rivers. You gave me Reggie Miller.

1483
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you.

1484
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 3: Said, doctor, tell me that not a good one.

1485
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: Dude.

1486
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: I you know, if the Knicks were terrible and they

1487
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: had no hope, I would say, yeah, why not, because

1488
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: that would at least we'd have fun stuff, but.

1489
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 3: No, we got dreams.

1490
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 2: Man. I'm not gonna say it. I'm not gonna say it. Man,

1491
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals is like years ago at this point.

1492
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not. That's a lifetime ago.

1493
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 1: I am not gonna say it. Every nick outside of

1494
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson is available to improve this team.

1495
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: Everyone will be available.