WEBVTT - NFL Draft Day 1 Recap 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:06.479 And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.039 Welcome to Move the Sticks. I am Bucky Brooks and 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:13.760 my man Mike Yam, who is sitting in for DJ. 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.920 We just hosted how many hours of coverage, like almost 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.560 five hours of coverage, wars of coverage, and we saw 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.880 the first round and we're gonna get into everything that 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:24.560 we saw in the first round. We're gonna talk about 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.480 the quarterback sh Dr Sanders, who is on the outside 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.040 looking in. Uh, but let's get into it. It's time 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.920 for Hot or Not brought to you by Saby Hot 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.080 Cloud Storage Yam or overall thoughts on the first round. 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:38.280 I just got to get your take on. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.960 Okay, So can we just rewind for a second. First 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.280 of all, I'm sitting in for DJ, so there's automatically 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.080 I'm like, what are we doing right now? Then I 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.200 find out I'm working with you, so obviously I'm excited 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.520 because I get to yeah, but then it's taking another level. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.159 I'm I'm used to running point yeah, I just get 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.480 out of the off the wall. We put the headsets 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.560 on Bucks like, Yo, I got you. I said, oh, okay, okay, 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.720 I'll step back here. This is awesome. Look, you and 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.440 I were doing mock draft live on NFL Network for 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:05.959 a few weeks. So the fact that we get this 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.080 first round and we get to actually see how it 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.800 plays out and unfold, there wasn't a huge surprise. I 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:12.760 think clearly the trades. I thought it was gonna be 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.000 relatively quiet. I didn't think you could be a ton 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.600 of splashes, and I do think in the scope when 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.160 you compare it to previous years, like there weren't really 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.880 a ton of trades. But we saw aggressive moves, which 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.320 I like the teams that decided to go and move up, 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.200 like the Jacks, a team that you know really well 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.600 because you're part of that radio broadcast. They said, look, 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:32.240 we're gonna take a swing. We're gonna go and get 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.280 Travis Hunter, and I know you love him. But then 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.800 on top of that, the Giants and the Falcons ATL 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.839 was a little bit of a surprise. But I love 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.960 what they did because they took two big swings on 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.200 the defensive side and when they've had some issues, I 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.280 love that try to get some dudes that can get 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:50.280 after the quarterback. And then the Giants, you know, I yeah, 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:51.400 you rock. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.600 With the Giants. So let's talk about all the trades, 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.000 like right off the top, the Jacksonman Jaguars moving from 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.800 five to two to get Travis Hunter. The thing about 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.640 the Travis Hunter pick is and talking to people in 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.880 the building, they say, like the three Jews that were 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.920 on their board that were really covenant, it was Travis Hunter, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.320 it was Asking Gent and then it was Ted McMillan. 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.280 That was the way that they saw, like offensively, they 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.600 wanted to add somebody with some splash, some bizazz to 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.920 that offense for them to make the move to get 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.720 Travis Hunter. One, it tells me that Liam Coin and 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.160 James glaston are all in on trying to make this 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.680 team better in a hurry. Two. They talked about James 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.400 glastone and talked about having the intangible qualities if you 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.320 get the players that the rite intangible to the culture 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.239 in the locker room changes organically because you're bringing the 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.360 right people in and whatever. Well, we know Travis Hunter. 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.480 He is about football, he's about fishing. He is all ball, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.360 all the time, terrific player and then a unique talent 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.520 as a two way player. So I'm just curious on 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:48.919 how that's going to work for them in terms of 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.120 what is the plan? But then the trades and the 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.080 reason I'm gonna go to the Giants before we go 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.040 to the Falcons is I'm looking at Abdull Carter at 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:58.880 three and when they made the move to get Abdul 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.800 cart I'm like, okay, well, that play to their identity 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.400 when they've been at their best. The D line kind 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.720 of sets the tone. We saw them knock off the 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.320 Patriots twice because their D line was so dominant, like 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.080 it worked. But then the question is why they can 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.440 get a quarterback. If they do get a quarterback, who's 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.240 going to be the quarterback? So they trade back in 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:21.639 they get into twenty five, they get Jackson Dart and look, 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.440 Jackson Dart's name has been popping up as been a 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.640 first round that debt was not a question, but Jackson 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.600 dark going Overshowder Sanders as the preferred pick for the Giants. 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.639 That is the conversation that we'll have over the next 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:35.080 few years. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.840 Okay, So there's a lot to unpack on what you 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.440 just said. I want to circle back on the Giants 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.680 for a moment, but I think you have this experience 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.440 that I think needs to be shared here. Obviously as 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.040 a scout. You've been in a lot of these draft rooms, 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.760 You've done the talent evaluation. You know what these conversations are. Like, 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.640 I talk to a lot of fans and they'll say, oh, 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.119 first round guy, Not every team has a first round 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.280 grade on all thirty two players. And I think what 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.440 you just said about the Jacks is fascinating because you said, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.760 who's on the board that they really like, Like Travis 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.600 Hunter was one of those guys to Max and then 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.760 jenty right and whoever whatever that order is. I don't 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.720 know if there's I don't know thirty one other teams 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.880 that would have had it necessarily lay out like that. 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.760 And the reality is, like, I just think it's really 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.880 important to have and set that distinction because Teed McMillan's 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.440 a great example. I hadn't heard his name as one 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:22.960 of these eleaite players, and yet you're telling me the 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:23.640 Jags had him. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.760 The Jacks had him right there. So it's funny, right 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.440 because when it played out, and this kind of tells 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.880 you about the entire process, because the way that the 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.919 process started, Ted McMillan was the name that we had 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.360 talked about up in the top five. Sure, the entire 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.880 time when those mock drafts came out early, Ted McMillan's 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.440 name was always dotted in the top ten. Then it 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.400 kind of fell out, and then it was a conversation like, hey, 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.920 he might not be wide receiver one because I wasn't 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.159 including Travis Hunter's wide receiver one, so oh, maybe you 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.200 know somebody else is there. And then law and behold, 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.960 the Jaguars get their guy in Travis Hunter, asking jend 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.680 comes off the board at six, and then Tied McMillan 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.440 comes off the board at eight. And so when we 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.240 talk about the Jaguars having their board rank like that, look, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:03.760 I can't say they're wrong based on the way those 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:04.600 guys came off the board. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.599 Okay, So from a strategy standpoint, though, if you're Jacksonville 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:11.240 and it was Travis Hunter, Gent and t mac why 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.640 make the move then to go to two because presumably 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.000 you would have been able to get one of those 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:15.600 guys at five. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.240 Because they felt that strongly that Travis Hunter it was 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.000 that so when I rated off those names, it would 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:26.760 be Travis Hunter. Long pause, asked Gent, then Ted McMillan. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.920 So they felt that strongly about what Travis Hunter brings 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.760 as a dynamic two way player that they wanted to 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.440 get him, and it had not only had to be 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.719 the talent that we saw. We saw the talent for 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.920 two years of Colorado and we also saw it at 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.840 Jackson State. But it's more the kid, the person, what 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.200 he's bringing, how much he loves the game, all of 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.599 those other things that really stood out to them. So 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.960 we're doing the change over the transformation of the team. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.839 That is why they wanted him to spear hit the charge. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.520 I want to ask you, as a resident Giants fan, 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.440 Abdul Carter, like, that's one thing I think you get 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.200 excited about that He had posted a week or so 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.200 ago the pitcher of Lawrence Taylor, So everyone kind of knew, like, oh, okay, 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.760 that's cool, But I gotta get your take, man. The 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.800 Giants have kind of been in the desert looking for 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.159 a franchise quarterback. Jackson Dart. What's the first thing that 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.240 came to mind when you heard the name associated with 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:17.719 the Giants. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:19.960 Yeah, I was surprised. I wasn't surprised that the Giants 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.400 moved back into the first round. I was surprised that 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.320 it was Jackson Dart that was the name for a 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.760 couple reasons. Number one, just the buzz around Shador Sanders. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.360 I do flash back to neighbors and Sanders in the streets, 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.680 you know, a couple months ago, kind of playing catch, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.560 clearly being linked there, and we spent and buck you 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.160 know this man, Like I spent a lot of time 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.239 covering college football, and it did feel like cam Warden 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.520 Shador Sanders. This was the conversation who was going to 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.599 be the first overall pick? And as the draft process unfolded, 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.600 I said, oh, you know, maybe we're not talking about him. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:48.159 You and I were. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.479 We did a couple of mock draft lives. I'm like, damn, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.360 like you guys really don't think Shador's going all this high, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.560 and yet clearly that didn't happen. The Jackson Dart angle 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.080 is intriguing to me because the first thing I think 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.200 about is when I used to watch Jackson Dart at 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.720 USC and then you transition to Ole Miss and he's 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.160 playing for Lane Kiff him and I don't always know 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.520 what to make of a quarterback that's played for Lane 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.800 because the reality is like it's just and I don't 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.560 mean this in a disrespectful way, but it's inflated numbers, 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.720 you know, Like Lane's an offensive dude, and he figures 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.600 out brilliantly how to get the ball into his playmaker's hands. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.840 What I love about Jackson Dart. I remember watching a 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.920 lot of games this year where he's got a little 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.200 oomph too, right, Like we use the term swag on 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.640 our show on Draft Night, and I think that's appropriate. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:36.280 But there's a little moxie attitude leadership thing. And I 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.760 think back to Brian Dable and more specifically, and I'm 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.560 going to relate this to Giants fans or just fans 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.960 in general of the NFL when you watch Hard Knocks 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.480 and you see how Brian Dable is peppering the quarterbacks 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.040 where they're considering who to draft, and Bron's got a 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.440 little bit of that tude, a little bit of that attitude, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:53.840 and in a good way, right, like you can try 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.840 to coach up his guys. I think Jackson Dart's going 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.760 to respond really well to that. But I don't. I 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.400 candidly thought there was a world that existed where the 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.840 Giants and Jalen mil Row was going to be that marriage. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.040 I watched Jalen. I see those traits physically, and I 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.800 see so much damn upside. And if you're telling me 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.640 that Russ is going to be your week one starter, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.560 jamis is in the fold of security. There's a part 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.360 of me that thinks that that Jalen mill Roll might 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.160 have been a better fit. Now, once again, that wasn't 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.240 the case for the Giants and Jackson Darts their guy, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.800 but they have been able to now check the box 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.560 and say, we got arguably the best player in this 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.680 draft in an Abdul Carter, which is going to help 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.680 that defense, and we have the quarterback of the future. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:36.800 Yeah, it's so funny to kind of hear the conversation 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.600 and how they finally went about it. They wanted to 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.720 make sure that they got their quarterback of the future. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.360 And Jackson Dart to me was interesting because I felt 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.079 like early in the process he was underrated, and then 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.800 I worried about him being a little overrated. And I'm 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.280 looking at this piece that I wrote. Not it didn't 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.520 appear on NFL dot com, but look, I wrote about 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.920 athletic gunslinger developing one or more efficient explosive playmakers of 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.320 college football on a three year run at Old Miss, 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.360 big play mentality, spartaner offense lit up scoreboys back to 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.400 back seasons with ten wins six two, two thirty three, 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.360 two twenty three all the traits that you look for 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.960 quarterback deep ball proficiency, hits the strike zone, works the 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:21.360 entire feel, and then the scheme produces easy completions. But 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:25.920 his arm talent squeezes ball in the tight windows, velocity, touch, timing, 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.600 anticipation gets it done. Has enough athleticism to pick up 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.040 first downs on designed quarterback runs and scrambles. NFL coaches 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.240 can feature a wide variety of schemes to maximize its 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.840 talents as a QB one and at the bottom of 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.000 it are approximated round value. Oh, bottom of. 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:43.480 The first Okay, so you nailed it. 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.880 So I mean, like, that's that's what I had. And 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.640 so it's it's funny to see that play out. But 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.280 when you read the report and then you look at 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.120 the round value, he went exactly where he was supposed 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:55.280 to go on the board. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.640 Okay, let me ask you this then, because I'm off 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.480 the top of the dome, I don't think there's another 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.280 team where there's as much. I hate using the term 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.479 hot seat because I think, you know, these are families, 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.199 people who have family, you know, and it's not just 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.120 the coach, like, there's support staff, the whole thing. So 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.640 you don't ever want to see anyone lose their job. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.920 The reality of the situation is franchises make changes. The 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:17.720 thought was the Giants were going to make a move 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.400 with Joe Shane or Brian Daball. That didn't happen. But 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.760 Marrack comes out and says, we need to win right now. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.280 I don't know if there's another team in the NFL 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.680 in this situation right like the teams that struggle, they 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.280 already have their new head coaches. I don't know if 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.199 there's another organization right now that says their general manager 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.040 and head coach are on the hot seat like the 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.560 Giants are. That's not the best way to approach the 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.200 draft because you're thinking, I'm not worried about two seasons 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.000 from now, and most people will tell you that's probably 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.480 the case for every team, But it does feel different 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.520 for this squad. Was there a different move to be 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.880 made at trading in at twenty five instead and just 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.400 maybe sitting tight or just going in a different direction 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.840 because of the thought process that comes with having to 0:10:58.880 --> 0:10:59.520 win the season. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.280 No, you know, it's funny because I would give this 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.880 heaving work with Joe Shane. We worked together in Carolina, 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.199 and I know that Joe's wired the right way when 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.080 it comes to building a team. And what they did 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.640 in the offseason is they set themselves up where they 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.720 didn't have to make a rash move at three to 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.920 fit a need because they went out and signed Russell 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.680 Wilson and Jameis Winston. They felt like if they had 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.199 to put the ball down today, they could play with 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.319 the starting quarterback and have enough talent in the quarterback 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.800 room to win. That freed them up to take the 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.040 best player available at three and Abdual Carter. And then 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.680 when they made that move at three, I am sure 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.679 as soon as they handed it in the cord, they 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.880 started making sure they worked the phones to see when 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.480 could we potentially get back in and if we are 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.040 getting back in, what are the names that we would 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.160 get back into the first round with? Because it couldn't 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.960 just be Jackson Dart as the only quarterback that they 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:54.720 would move in, because look, he could have been gone 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.240 at any spot. Were they multiple names and what were those? 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.560 Was it Jackson Dart, Shoulder Sanders An Tyler shut was 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.319 a Jackson dor Tyler Shut. They had to be comfortable 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.120 with multiple quarterbacks to be able to get back in 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.560 the first round to say, hey, we're good. We gonna 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.360 get our quarterback of the future at the bottom of 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:11.840 round one. 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.480 Yeah, it's it's wild to me when I think about 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.920 the direction of this organization over the next couple of years. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:18.800 And I hate to play in the world of hypotheticals, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.839 but had some games not necessarily gone their way late 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.559 in the season, they might not have picking at number three. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:25.959 I think. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.760 I hate to say it this way, but like, even 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.719 if they were picking at two, I don't know. I 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.920 think Abdul Carter might still have been the selection for him. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.640 Look, I think you can make a reasonable assessment or 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.559 prediction that that would have been the pick. Like, Abdul 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.040 Carter is a dominant player. And when I look at 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:44.720 the ward and I look at the players that were 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.600 available in this JEFT, Travis Hunderd was one for me, 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.400 abduall Carter was two. They were comfortable taking either one 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.240 of those guys, and they would have been fine. Abdul 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:56.560 Carter works if it's the brand, and so like I 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.600 love it now. Ultimately, both the guys have to play 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.600 really well. So after Carter is the one who has 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.120 the i'll say the most pressure because he's the top 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.000 five pick. He has to play like that right away. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.760 You think about Cavon Tippeau, who's number five overall pick. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.599 He hasn't necessarily played like that. They need both of 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.840 their top five picks to play like that because you 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.520 have a level of expectation. And Jackson Dart fans will 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.480 have an expectation of what the quarterback should be. But 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.720 he was taking at the bottom of the first round. 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:26.080 There should be time given and grace given to him 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.040 before he becomes a starting quarterback. And look, Russell Wilson, 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.840 Jameis Winston, they're there to really kind of hold it 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.960 down until Jackson Dart is ready to be able to 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:36.240 do it. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.000 Yeah, you say that. And yet off air, while we 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.679 were having conversations about the city of New York, you know, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.280 every city's not treated the same way. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.800 I did not go treat it like no man, no, 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.199 like when Jackson Dart was drafted in the first round. 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:51.400 Away we go, poor Tommy Cutlets. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:58.679 It's like he anywhere, But like Jackson Dart, the clock 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.959 is on, like now, all the kind conversation through our 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:02.800 training camp is gonna be when Jackson are gonna be 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.360 ready to play, And so Russell and Jameis Winston have 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.079 to give the coaching staff and the fans enough to 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.040 kind of stay them off, like, no, we have a plan, 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:12.440 we have a plan for him. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.920 But here's the tricky thing, Cam Brian day Ball and 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.600 Joe Shane win enough to get to the other side 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.760 where they can see Jackson dark next year as the 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.000 starting quarterback. They have to win enough games to kind 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.760 of keep everyone at bay to be able to do 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.600 it unless the ownership is saying no, no, no, you good 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.480 you got this year regards of the record, then we 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.000 get it next year. But I don't know of New 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.720 York having enough patience to sit through another disappointing year 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:41.600 from the Giants. No. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.280 I mean, you think about all that media and the 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.600 lens that's there, and look, that's home for me. I 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.400 grew up there. So you're talking about two all sports stations, 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.080 two regional sports television networks. It is all eyes on 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.480 this squad. And taking a step further here, the Jets 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.440 don't have Aaron Rodgers anymore, so that story is now gone. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.680 They're punting on that the Justin Field could be. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.920 A great doesn't have as much noise as the Giant Little. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.280 Let's be honest, the Giants. The Giants owned the Apple 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:10.200 like they're the stable the franchise there. I mean, they're 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.360 a squad. So everyone is going to look to them now, 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.880 just like everyone looks to the Giants. I'm looking at 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.840 the rest of the top ten. Will Cambell goes forward 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.520 to the Patriots, Mason Graham Cleveland at five, asking genty 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.880 to the Raiders at six. I'm on Membo to the 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.960 Justin seven, Ted McMillan at eight, Kelvin Banks Junior to 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.240 the Saints at nine, and then Coaston Loveland at ten. 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.160 Of the picks, and I'll let you go after me. Sure, 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.680 number six asking genty to the Raiders was the one 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.880 that stood out. And to sit out because we know 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.600 Pete Carroll. You were on the West Coast and Peek 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:47.240 Carroll was doing his thing. He's always had running backs 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.840 when his programs have operated at their best. And go 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.600 back to like sc Lindelle White and Reggie Bush, Seattle 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.440 Sea Yawks. It was about Marshawn Lynch. You just had 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.440 to know that the Raiders under Pete Carroll. They're going 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.520 to have a blue chip running back, so I knew 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.560 that was coming, but it still stood out that they 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:05.840 were able to get them totally. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.320 And I say this because you know how excited I was. 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.320 This is my first year having a vote Genty. It 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.280 was hard for me not to pick Ashon Genty as 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.520 the leader. And when you do the rankings, it's one, two, 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.120 and three, and you know, for me, it ended up 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.840 being obviously Travis Hunter because of the special nature. But Genty, 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.840 the numbers alone speak for themselves the impact that he had. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.400 We were doing our draft show with Lancer Aline, who 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.120 talked about a week offensive line and yet still you know, 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.720 historic type numbers from Genty. You know, for me, Carolina 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.119 at eight, I talked to a buddy of mine who's 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:39.800 around that team a whole lot, and I said, hey, 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.000 what direction do they go? Because I felt like there 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.920 was going to be a team that looked at the 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.720 eighth position and said, that's the trade spot. I want 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:48.320 to get ahead of it. I want to get ahead 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.240 of what the New Orleans Saints might do at number nine, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.000 which clearly wasn't the case because they took Kelvin Banks. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:54.800 I thought maybe the Steelers might be one of those 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.840 teams that didn't happen, And I asked him to say, hey, 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.120 what direction he goes. Look, there's some needs that are here, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.960 but I would be if there's not another piece around 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.840 Bryce Young because the reclamation process that we saw even 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:09.320 in one year for Bryce was pretty pretty spectacular. And look, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:14.960 they drafted Lagette that's been okay for them. I don't know. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.560 I think it became abundantly clear it was going to 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.879 be wide receiver. We just didn't know which one it was. 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:21.600 And the fact that it was an explosive guy like 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.960 t Mac who once again was terrific playing at Arizona 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:26.560 not a huge surprise for me. 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.920 Picks eleven to twenty Mikhael Williams to San Francisco forty 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.000 nine Ers, Tyler Booker Dallas Cowboys, Kenneth Grant Miami Dolphins, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.359 Tyler Warren Indianapolis goes, Jalen Walker Atlanta Falcons, walked to 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:48.640 Nolan Arizona Cardon, Shamar Stewart Cincinnati Bengals, Great Zabels, Seattle Seahawks, 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:52.320 A Mecca Abuka nineteen to the Den Bay Buccaneers, and 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.919 then Jedi Baron going to the Denver Broncos. When I 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.720 look at that list, the one that stands out to 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.520 me in terms of the best pick, best fit Tyler 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.879 Booker going to the Dallas Cowboys. The Dallas Cowboys the 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.480 offensive line. They lose Zach Martin last couple of years. 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.080 They're trying to kind of piecemeal this offensive line, kind 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.520