Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick
Speaker 1: Shot screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot com and the
Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola and some of us are here for
Speaker 1: the start of mix shots on a Wednesday at noon
Speaker 1: here inside the SWBC podcast studio as it is a
Speaker 1: practice day for the team. Everybody back to work and
Speaker 1: that includes one Everson Ways Welcome back. Eversons, I told
Speaker 1: you I was not gonna be here. I know you do.
Speaker 1: You've got to stop calling me out. Mandatas where is he?
Speaker 1: And on Monday Mickey walks in here. Nate's in here.
Speaker 1: Nate never met an empty chair, he didn't like to
Speaker 1: sit in or on microphone, And so Mickey says, where's Everson?
Speaker 1: I said, Everson told us on Friday he couldn't be here.
Speaker 1: I told you on Thursday. Also, yeah, he told us
Speaker 1: last week he couldn't be here on Monday and Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So what happens in on Tuesday? Ever? Since backs come?
Speaker 1: Mickey walks in here and goes, where's Everson? And I said, Mickey,
Speaker 1: we told you yesterday, And Nate said to Micky, we
Speaker 1: told you yesterday. He's not gonna be Yeah. I got
Speaker 1: a lot on my mind. Yes, you got a lot
Speaker 1: to take care of. You got a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of articles to write. That's right, fifteen hundred word
Speaker 1: articles and yours and yours doesn't doesn't fit in those
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred words. I can't even get a mix shot. Well,
Speaker 1: Walls is here today. Well, it's good to have you back, Everson.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Guys, there's so
Speaker 1: much to get to there is uh huh yep. So
Speaker 1: where would you like to start, Mickey? You want to
Speaker 1: start with the big guy? Okay, we can do that.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Hankins. Jonathan Hankins, Hey, catboys making moves. Man about that?
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's like, Hey, this is this
Speaker 1: is a move to make us you know, big, that's better, bigger,
Speaker 1: hopefully better. All right, And I'll just say this off
Speaker 1: the top. This is the reason those guys are in
Speaker 1: that wing of the building and we're in this wing
Speaker 1: of the building. Do you remember the question that I
Speaker 1: posed last week? What would you what was the one
Speaker 1: position group on the team that you would try to
Speaker 1: improve as we approach the trade deadline. And we said,
Speaker 1: and we said, what Everson, why did we see exactly?
Speaker 1: And in that wing of the building, they're looking at
Speaker 1: the big Bazuka to put in the middle of that
Speaker 1: defense for the run defense. And the interesting thing is
Speaker 1: when you look up here is information online it says
Speaker 1: three forty. The Cowboys are listing them at three twenty,
Speaker 1: which was his original weight. I think we'll split the
Speaker 1: difference there at three thirty. Right, you know what, he's
Speaker 1: whatever he wants that wants us to say bigger the better.
Speaker 1: And now you know we weren't totally off base because
Speaker 1: Spags was all week talking all last week talking about
Speaker 1: how we're giving up way was that you talking about
Speaker 1: way too many rushing yards? And sure enough in the
Speaker 1: Lions game, what were the stats for the Lions? I
Speaker 1: believe they ended up with one seventeen dan And those
Speaker 1: are big numbers. I mean there were there were times
Speaker 1: three of the last four games one seventeen or more.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just the numbers, it was when they
Speaker 1: when they came right, because it was they answered we
Speaker 1: had scored and they would come back and answered with
Speaker 1: the run. But that's what Philly did because yeah, well
Speaker 1: that's what I was about to say in the And
Speaker 1: the reason I posed the question last week is that
Speaker 1: we had just seen this team against the Eagles, and
Speaker 1: we had just talked about what Bradbury and Sleigh did
Speaker 1: at cornerback, and so that was kind of on our mind.
Speaker 1: But the key drive in that game was them driving
Speaker 1: it down, yeah, to clench the game. And that is
Speaker 1: what stuck in the crawl of the guys in the
Speaker 1: other wing as much as anything. We should have known
Speaker 1: it was coming, because they were bitching all what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. The Lions game just kind of confirmed, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got to do something. It was a thirteen play
Speaker 1: drive against the Eagles, ten runs of those thirds. That
Speaker 1: was the reason they signed him. It wasn't the Lions game.
Speaker 1: It was the Eagles game, that's right. And how do
Speaker 1: they match up going forward? And knowing the Bears, Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, are the number one rushing team in
Speaker 1: the league, one one a game. And by the way,
Speaker 1: look around the league. In what's happening all around the league.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many games being won with
Speaker 1: quarterbacks throwing for less than two hundred yards. Teams are
Speaker 1: relying on the run. It's like old school football all
Speaker 1: of a sudden around here. And oh they'll change that
Speaker 1: next Yeah, and it might change next month. But right
Speaker 1: now that's what it looks like. Pretty soon we're going
Speaker 1: to see a wishbone. Here's the other thing. Oh, God forbid,
Speaker 1: they do not they do not want that. That'd be
Speaker 1: so great, Switzer not for the TeV stays. Um, here's
Speaker 1: the other thing. What was it? What was your immediate
Speaker 1: reaction when we learned during the show? By the ways,
Speaker 1: and this news came down about during mix shots not
Speaker 1: as and I wasn't here. You weren't here for three
Speaker 1: minutes to go? I think, did you did you have
Speaker 1: a chance to go for it? Wow? Well we talked
Speaker 1: about it a little bit. We went over time, so
Speaker 1: you're about three minutes or so and yeah, but um,
Speaker 1: what was your immediate reaction? Okay? So who are they
Speaker 1: getting rid of? Right? Yeah? Right, you know, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like anybody. Well, and that's the thing. And
Speaker 1: but you look at the way this depth chart was
Speaker 1: put together, even going back to the draft in free agency, Okay,
Speaker 1: there was a certain depth chart. They're thinking Okay, they know,
Speaker 1: barring injuries, who's going to be available, you know, and
Speaker 1: they know their numbers. Well. One of those guys that
Speaker 1: was in factored into those numbers as they came into
Speaker 1: the season was their fifth round draft pick from Arkansas,
Speaker 1: John Ridgeway, who, because of roster manipulations and so forth,
Speaker 1: they exposed Washington picked them up. So there is a
Speaker 1: big guy. Okay, I'm not saying that Hankins is the
Speaker 1: same guy that Ridgeway. Ridgeway is more of a prospect
Speaker 1: going forward, but it's the same position. They are actually
Speaker 1: better equipped for that position for a stretch run this
Speaker 1: season with Jonathan Hankins than if they had John Ridgeway.
Speaker 1: Maybe not two years from now or whatever, but for
Speaker 1: right now they and so there is your spot. And
Speaker 1: so they're probably thinking on the other wing over there,
Speaker 1: going back to last month, we lost one of our
Speaker 1: guys on our depth chart right there, and they've been
Speaker 1: linked thinking that, Okay, this might be a move we
Speaker 1: need to make. And think about Mike McCarthy's history. He
Speaker 1: at Green Bay, he had that big ol dump truck
Speaker 1: in the was it Gilbert Brown? Yes? Yes? In Kansas.
Speaker 1: Uh And and you know, That's why I always said
Speaker 1: when when they don't don't have a fullback, he wants
Speaker 1: a fullback. Right. He had a fullback and used the
Speaker 1: fullback in Green Bay. No matter how much Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: threw the ball, they would run two back off. We're
Speaker 1: going to see this, well, well that's why Hankins right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but think about it because they lost their fullback
Speaker 1: when McGovern ended up starting at guard right and so
Speaker 1: um then Forniac started doing that. Now they've lost him
Speaker 1: right for the season. So we were talking about it yesterday.
Speaker 1: Put Gifford back out there, right. I mean, I'm surprised, Bill,
Speaker 1: you hadn't even pulled up hankins history going back to
Speaker 1: high school. I mean he a full back in the Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could have been a tight end in high school.
Speaker 1: Never know. I'm that's why Jason Peters is here. He
Speaker 1: was the tight end well and now he's the basically
Speaker 1: in running situations that he's the third He can uh
Speaker 1: be used as the third offensive lineman, third tight end.
Speaker 1: Could I bet he would tell you, right? Why not?
Speaker 1: I can see that. But as Mike McCarthy said in
Speaker 1: this press conference this morning, you can't have enough big
Speaker 1: bodies in the building. Yeah, and and and and think
Speaker 1: about when they were on the goal line. Um, and
Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was the time they scored
Speaker 1: or didn't score, but they had two running backs in
Speaker 1: and three tight ends. So we don't see that formation
Speaker 1: very often either. But he likes to go heavy, So yeah,
Speaker 1: keepstaying simple. Yeah, when you have that ability to do.
Speaker 1: Would you like the history on Hankins, who was born
Speaker 1: in Dearborn Heights, Michigan. He began his career and this
Speaker 1: is according to Wikipedia, as a two hundred fifty five
Speaker 1: pound offensive guard his freshman year. His sophomore year, he
Speaker 1: transferred to Southeastern High School in Detroit, where he started
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. Five star prospect William Golston, who
Speaker 1: has been playing for a decade for the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: transferred to Southeastern in two thousand and eight, creating the
Speaker 1: best defense in Detroit with Hankins shutting down the inside
Speaker 1: and Gholston patrolling on the edge and an Hankins wound up,
Speaker 1: of course, going to Ohio State and Gholston went to
Speaker 1: Michigan State. So there you go. Well, there there's your history.
Speaker 1: So I don't see back in or fullback in his
Speaker 1: and after you left on Saturday, I had a guy
Speaker 1: come up from the guy that asked the question from Monroe, Louisiana. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he gave me the entire history of Cavante Turpin
Speaker 1: and who was on that Monroe High school team that
Speaker 1: won the state champions Yes. Another note on Hankins and
Speaker 1: the weight he weighed in as a freshman. According to
Speaker 1: one of the college at freshman in college at Ohio State,
Speaker 1: as a three hundred and fifty pound freshman, he wait
Speaker 1: a minute at about three fifty three fifty five. By
Speaker 1: his sophomore year he managed to get his weight down
Speaker 1: to three thirty and became a starter. He but at
Speaker 1: the combine, I believe it, the combine he was three
Speaker 1: twenty Okay, so years as one hundred pounds was added.
Speaker 1: Freshman year, you said two fifty five yeah, freshman, Yeah,
Speaker 1: freshman insane fifty five pound offensive guards three Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you cowboys needed a big in the middle. That's right.
Speaker 1: What what? What was the old saying? He ate his
Speaker 1: parents out of house and hole he ate with that? No?
Speaker 1: Stop he ate his parents right, No, because then he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had any money by food so anyway, that's
Speaker 1: a you know, and now you you you've got a
Speaker 1: cluster there of defensive tackles, and you can choose by
Speaker 1: who you're playing. Right, if you're playing you need a
Speaker 1: pass rusher, well maybe they're not active on game day, right,
Speaker 1: And and and like I said, the beauty of it is,
Speaker 1: you didn't have to sacrifice what you gave up a
Speaker 1: sixth and you get a seven next year, and you
Speaker 1: had open roster spots. And he doesn't cost an arm
Speaker 1: in the leg. As a matter of fact, he was
Speaker 1: basically on a minimum deal and a per game bonus,
Speaker 1: and the per game bonus was only like thirty eight
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a game. So and this shows that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are preparing for a stretch run in a specialized
Speaker 1: NFL where a player like this he might play ten
Speaker 1: snaps a game, but those are important snaps that this
Speaker 1: team wasn't prepared for otherwise without the big bazook in,
Speaker 1: how would you like to see him on the goal line? Right? Exactly?
Speaker 1: So it's situation with football is what you're talking about here. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: So that's his role. I don't know, I'm just wondering
Speaker 1: we brought him in we needed to bring him in.
Speaker 1: Why did we need to bring him in? Who's not
Speaker 1: doing their job? Well, I think it's just the size
Speaker 1: that they've got most of them. Look at their defensive
Speaker 1: tackles other than Bohannah and so Bohanna, here's a second
Speaker 1: year guy, Okay does doesn't have a lot of snaps
Speaker 1: on his resume in his NFL career, And then what
Speaker 1: happens if Bohannah goes down? You know? So, now you
Speaker 1: got a couple of guys and the other guys are
Speaker 1: three technic exactly, Yeah, because when got here, we go, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a three technique, right? They made him play what
Speaker 1: was it at Oklahoma? Was basically a three four defensive
Speaker 1: five technique? Yeah, five technique. So, uh, Tristan Hill three technique,
Speaker 1: that's the other one. Tristan Hills also three technique? Right? Um? Watkins? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Watkins is one of those that he was a
Speaker 1: five technique with the Texans, and you know, but a
Speaker 1: little bit of both. But still, you know, I think
Speaker 1: Gallamar was the heaviest at three fifteen. Everybody else, you know,
Speaker 1: some of them were nine. I was gonna say ninety two,
Speaker 1: ninety two, ninety five, so and and think about it
Speaker 1: a lot what they do at their defensive ends. They
Speaker 1: moved some of those guys inside and that doesn't match
Speaker 1: up well against the run. So uh. And we were
Speaker 1: looking at it because that's why I was a constant
Speaker 1: price to me as well, because we hear on mix shots.
Speaker 1: We were looking at it as outside runs, well our problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then the Lions came in and said, look, you
Speaker 1: got problems inside and outside. We just wanted to and
Speaker 1: aside from and this is just my perception, aside from
Speaker 1: the runs that Fields made Monday night, there are other
Speaker 1: other running backs looked like they were between the tackles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so um so, and why can't he play? Somebody was like,
Speaker 1: can he play on Sunday? It's not like he's coming
Speaker 1: off his couch. Christian McCaffrey played two days after Yeah,
Speaker 1: at a running back position. And how difficult is it
Speaker 1: to play tackle? You know, you're not playing that many
Speaker 1: fancy games up front. You got a role to play,
Speaker 1: You got a job to do. Right here you go,
Speaker 1: there's the ball, go get it all right. So much
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Speaker 1: it's coming up of course on Monday. Cowboys playing Sunday
Speaker 1: at noon against the Chicago Bears, and Mickey, in honor
Speaker 1: of Halloween. I think here's the look for the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears Sunday. Okay, they're going with the orange, orange helmets,
Speaker 1: orange jerseys. Mickey, I ask you, since you're a native
Speaker 1: of Chicago, right, you've watched a lot of Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: football in your time. They never what do you think? Nah?
Speaker 1: I like it. I didn't like it. I like it.
Speaker 1: So are the Cowboys run? I believe they may be
Speaker 1: going blue. Producer Supreme is speculating that they are wearing
Speaker 1: blue all blue. I don't know, Okay, producers, No, I
Speaker 1: think it's not blue, just blue gray. Yeah, right, helmets
Speaker 1: that regular helmets. Yeah yeah, I'm not even on the
Speaker 1: but that I think so. Do you think it's an
Speaker 1: honorable Halloween pumpkin look? No, because they wore that two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Well, but yeah, but Halloween's im why I
Speaker 1: didn't like it then? I mean, it seems natural to
Speaker 1: wear it the day before Halloween, doesn't it. They're probably
Speaker 1: trying to sell jerseys they want national no doubt, that's
Speaker 1: that's Halloween orange. That doesn't that doesn't portray. That's Midway's
Speaker 1: pumpkin orange. Its slue. That's that's the line. That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Orange teams are doing all right this year Tennessee volunteers.
Speaker 1: What's Cincinnati doing? Okay, they're coming on. Did you see
Speaker 1: how many yards cover Burrow through four the other day?
Speaker 1: I did? Yeah? So there you go. All right? What
Speaker 1: else is on your legal pad from Mike McCarthy's press
Speaker 1: conference this morning or anything else that you've fed. We
Speaker 1: talked about this last week that today would be the
Speaker 1: day and it is de Moon Clark is going to
Speaker 1: be put on the fifty three man roster. Uh and
Speaker 1: it would be for special teams purposes. So um, we'll
Speaker 1: go tight look at him. What was that? Uh? And
Speaker 1: hey yeah we can say hi to him now right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not working yet, yeah, um yeah, so that's uh.
Speaker 1: I keep an eye on him, the moan Clark, the
Speaker 1: moan Clark. Now Emmett is not practicing today. He's going
Speaker 1: to be with britt Emt hasn't practiced it about That
Speaker 1: was my that was signed somebody else signing about My
Speaker 1: next note was about I want to see how that
Speaker 1: was gonna play out. Sound got the breaking news Sounder
Speaker 1: is not practicing and that's not a thank you. Who
Speaker 1: are they let him go to sign him it? Uh?
Speaker 1: I mean Zeke's going on irre that is not true.
Speaker 1: That is not true. But he's not practicing today, Zeke Um.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Nie still sore from when he got hit. Now,
Speaker 1: McCarthy didn't answer the question when he said he's not practicing,
Speaker 1: and somebody suggested sprain knee and he said, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: he's not practicing. I can't imagine it's sprained. It sounded
Speaker 1: like he's on the side with Britt Brown, right yeah,
Speaker 1: And it sounded like Monday night when he was on
Speaker 1: Cowboys Hour that it was a contusion. And I can
Speaker 1: imagine Bruce is a contusion after he got hit with
Speaker 1: a helmet on the knee like that. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what it turns out. My guess is you're trying to
Speaker 1: get him till Sunday, right. You don't need him practicing
Speaker 1: to Wednesday Thursday. Now, one of the reporters is trying
Speaker 1: to get him to Green Bay because they question what
Speaker 1: the question was posed. With a bye week next week,
Speaker 1: does that factor into the decision for this week where
Speaker 1: you can buy two weeks for him? And so in
Speaker 1: my mind, that reporters trying to get him to Green
Speaker 1: Bay and that reporter I did not watch the Monday
Speaker 1: night game against Chicago, I guess I guess not when
Speaker 1: the Bears scored the most points they've had and since
Speaker 1: Justin Fields was drafted, I guess that was last year.
Speaker 1: You know, play against the Bears. They can lull you
Speaker 1: into a certain type of game, you know, very hectic, chaotic,
Speaker 1: you know, because he's when he's back there, he's he's
Speaker 1: like he's trying to run for his life. And we
Speaker 1: play right, you know, And then he completed a few
Speaker 1: passes this time. Yeah, and the scumbles out of the packet,
Speaker 1: out of the pocket, they would just scary. You start
Speaker 1: thinking about the speed he possesses. If you kids one
Speaker 1: defender with his back to the quarterback, he could run
Speaker 1: way by him in the fo testdown. That's why when
Speaker 1: it even if it's I mean, you know what, even
Speaker 1: if it's third down passing situation, I don't know that
Speaker 1: I Micah Parsons at defensive end where they can double him.
Speaker 1: I'd rather him in the middle of the field. Chase
Speaker 1: that guy down because he's gonna go. He's going He
Speaker 1: ran for eighty most of the time he has to
Speaker 1: go right, yeah, because that's not really given much pet
Speaker 1: here's the weird stat on the Bears. They have the
Speaker 1: number one rushing offense. They have the thirty second passing offense,
Speaker 1: and that's why they're twenty eighth and total offense, which
Speaker 1: by the way, it's one spot ahead of the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Cowboys are twenty ninth in yards m so hopefully soon
Speaker 1: to be changed. So that either tells you how well
Speaker 1: they're running it or how poorly they're three well, they
Speaker 1: beat uh San Francisco in the season opener nineteen to ten,
Speaker 1: and justin that was in the rain and fields but
Speaker 1: fields through for one hundred and twenty one yards in
Speaker 1: that win. They beat Houston twenty three to twenty and
Speaker 1: he threw for one hundred six yards in that win
Speaker 1: through two interceptions and was sacked five times, ran eight
Speaker 1: times for forty seven yards. And then they beat New
Speaker 1: England and you saw he was one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: nine yards passing and it was eighty two yards rushing
Speaker 1: on fourteen carries. So there you go. There are three wins.
Speaker 1: He has thrown for under two hundred yards and close
Speaker 1: to one hundred yards in one of the wins, but
Speaker 1: he threw for one hundred and ninety against the Commanders.
Speaker 1: In a twelve seven game against Green Bay, he threw
Speaker 1: for seventy yards. Yeah, So was this the blue moon
Speaker 1: or is he getting better? I think he's getting bad.
Speaker 1: It was his best performances as a Bear. I think
Speaker 1: the entire offense is getting better. And when they came
Speaker 1: in you could just kind of see they went a
Speaker 1: little bit disarray. But when you have an athlete like
Speaker 1: that in thee, in the backfield at quarterback, most likely
Speaker 1: with his kind of talent, you're going to improve. I
Speaker 1: think the offense coordinator would understand what's best for him
Speaker 1: in certain situations. I think they're understanding each other. It's
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, and I think what I was
Speaker 1: reading he sort of designed that game plan to fields
Speaker 1: instead of fields being fit into his games. Right, And
Speaker 1: see that's that's that's the Jalen Hurts move right there, right,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what they did with him. They say, Okay,
Speaker 1: We're going to just put everything around his talents. Same
Speaker 1: things happened in Chicago. Yeah, because their offense wasn't and
Speaker 1: when you have a good defense, you can be patient.
Speaker 1: When I when I text my college roommate who's a
Speaker 1: big Bears fan, and I said, what do you think
Speaker 1: of this orange uniform? He goes, doesn't matter, it's still
Speaker 1: to Bears. And now I think he changed his tune
Speaker 1: after after Monday night. Um. Their offensive line, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: which is over? Which it is? There's been a makeover
Speaker 1: there on their offensive line. Here's what it consists of.
Speaker 1: In their last game, all right. The starter at left tackle,
Speaker 1: Braxton Jones, a fifth round pick this year. Rookie Braxton
Speaker 1: Jones starting at left tackle. The left guard Michael Scofield,
Speaker 1: who has been a journeyman in the league and that
Speaker 1: was just his second game with the Bears, his first start. Okay,
Speaker 1: the center Lucas Patrick started the game. He played ten plays.
Speaker 1: He was signed in free agency from Green Bay, but
Speaker 1: originally came into the league in twenty sixteen as an
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. Okay and their right guard Tevin Jenkins,
Speaker 1: came out of the draft last year out of Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: In the second round. So there's your highest drafted offensive
Speaker 1: lineman right there, and your right tackle in the last game.
Speaker 1: Larry Boram was a fifth round pick last year. So
Speaker 1: it's not like they've invested a lot or seeing any
Speaker 1: investment in their offensive line. And they're paying and they're
Speaker 1: paying for it. So and so that is why they're
Speaker 1: having issues throughout the season on offense. Yeah, and why
Speaker 1: Luke gets either offensive coordinator is trying to figure it
Speaker 1: out himself and figured it out in a big way
Speaker 1: coming off a bye week last week and preparing to
Speaker 1: go up against New England because he had extra time
Speaker 1: and he's got less time this week, right, And that's
Speaker 1: a good thing for us. I like that they're coming
Speaker 1: off a road game and then they have a short week.
Speaker 1: So you look at this matchup. You got this defensive
Speaker 1: line going up against that offensive line that I just
Speaker 1: reeled off. So they got planned. So for sure they
Speaker 1: don't want to get in in third and seven or
Speaker 1: more third and six or more. Well, one thing and
Speaker 1: if they are better, watch out for the quarter back draw.
Speaker 1: One thing you can see is that their their offense
Speaker 1: really puts their defense in bad situations. And they've got
Speaker 1: a good defense. But if you take a look at
Speaker 1: the turnovers in the games that have led to quick
Speaker 1: touchdowns by their opposition, I still think their defense is
Speaker 1: better than what we've seen as far as score. As
Speaker 1: a concert, they can really shut down an offense when
Speaker 1: they want to, especially when the pass hits the wire
Speaker 1: on skycimp, did you realize that I didn't somebody unearthed.
Speaker 1: I think it was Pro Football Focus. I'll give them
Speaker 1: credit for this for the first time. Yes, little drum
Speaker 1: roll there right, they identify a positive. No, it's a
Speaker 1: negative mix shot is it? No, it's a positives the
Speaker 1: overriding negative towards Pro Football Focus. Here's one positive that
Speaker 1: the past that Mac Jones got intercepted the little TOSSI yes,
Speaker 1: that guy made the one handed it hit the wire. Wow,
Speaker 1: and it and it and and when you slow it
Speaker 1: down from the people that saw it said, you can
Speaker 1: see the ball. It didn't flutter. It just made it
Speaker 1: come come down. It's why it didn't get over that.
Speaker 1: There's too much crap on the field. You didn't have
Speaker 1: wires and drones going all over the place. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: video boards. Then yeah, you got a putter. He's hitting
Speaker 1: the boy hitting the school board. It's crazy. We never
Speaker 1: had those issues back in the fifties. Home bill, Oh
Speaker 1: you had about the fifties, make it can tell you
Speaker 1: about was wind and sun? Right, a little misty snow mud.
Speaker 1: You hear about the the NFL on home games at
Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium, they now have one person who
Speaker 1: is assigned to watch the school board. Punch on school board,
Speaker 1: hit hitting the school board. Like you said, they now
Speaker 1: have it. They now have it like a spider. Yes,
Speaker 1: they've got one person that's his assignment. Does he get
Speaker 1: flown in for that or they picked somebody out the
Speaker 1: stadium to take care of They have a raffle before
Speaker 1: just sitting there, Hey, every punch, I got it. Somebody
Speaker 1: an idea? Run here? I mean you can, that'd be
Speaker 1: pretty good. We got we got we can make a
Speaker 1: lot of money on we We got the goal line camera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the guys sitting up in the tennis box, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you get you get a sideline pass, all right, and
Speaker 1: you raffle it off that you are the person who
Speaker 1: determines whether the punt hit the schoolboard, and you sit
Speaker 1: in the elevated seat. No, this one, you gotta be
Speaker 1: low so you see up Yeah, that's right. Got to
Speaker 1: have the right angle. Yeah, you gotta be tall enough
Speaker 1: to see over people on the sideline. So maybe you're
Speaker 1: you needed like a tennis umpire's chair that they be
Speaker 1: more in that you're any binoculars man, that's way up there.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Just like on the gold line,
Speaker 1: See on the goal line, you can actually have a
Speaker 1: guy sitting gold post level looking down on the goal line.
Speaker 1: You can have that like at the top of the stadium. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be right there. You can right there because
Speaker 1: the sideline is not working because obviously that does not work. Bodies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've had Dax Whole his feet will over the line.
Speaker 1: They couldn't call it but from up here. Okay, So
Speaker 1: there has been a ESPN has issued a statement over
Speaker 1: the skycam gate. I would say, okay. It says the
Speaker 1: pass from mac Jones did not hit the ESPN skycam wiring.
Speaker 1: The video creates a false impression, but in reality, the
Speaker 1: skycam wire was more than fifteen feet above the ball,
Speaker 1: and our skycamp system followed all NFL protocols. So just
Speaker 1: so you can get that, our still didn't get it
Speaker 1: right like that, That's what it sounds like I know.
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know so I can be so
Speaker 1: we're in the clear. I think we need to go
Speaker 1: look at it. I said, skycam gate, skycam gate, because
Speaker 1: it was it was in New England. That's right, that's right.
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Speaker 1: so we haven't heard your take on all that happened
Speaker 1: in Sunday's game, and give you the opportunity. What stood
Speaker 1: out to you the most from Sunday's went over the Lions,
Speaker 1: It was pretty much how we expected it. I thought
Speaker 1: that they would score more, and they would have if
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have given up the fumble. Yeah, you know, God,
Speaker 1: that was deep in our territory. And you know, would
Speaker 1: you call that a mistake? Which is would you call
Speaker 1: that a great play by the Cowboys defensive line because
Speaker 1: we were in certain situations. It's almost as if we
Speaker 1: knew exactly where they were going to run the ball.
Speaker 1: But then when they needed to answer, man, they split
Speaker 1: us wide open. And so it was pretty much what
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be, minus the fumble. In
Speaker 1: the five year at the five yard line, I pretty
Speaker 1: much thought that Dak would be, you know, a little
Speaker 1: hesitant on some of the moves that he made. I
Speaker 1: ill hope that he can get out of this. You
Speaker 1: know how you get in your get in your own way.
Speaker 1: His confidence in his is uh impatience with his recovery.
Speaker 1: Not just this time, but anytime. He seems to push
Speaker 1: it way too much and makes them foolish and he
Speaker 1: foolish decisions. And he admitted it afterwards. Yeah, he said
Speaker 1: I had a little too much confidence in a couple throws.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was confidence because I know he
Speaker 1: didn't think he could fit some of that. That's why
Speaker 1: he needs to chill. You know, there are times when
Speaker 1: you can I remember watching the Eli Man and play
Speaker 1: back in the day, and there were times when he
Speaker 1: looks so inadequate. But that in those inadequate moments was
Speaker 1: just him giving up on the plate in a smart manner,
Speaker 1: like checking down, check just just a little yeah, even
Speaker 1: if he's not even trying to complete the pass. It
Speaker 1: looked all goofy and other sorts, but that's smart. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta know when to give up, and that's the
Speaker 1: that's always been Dak's problem. He believes so much in himself.
Speaker 1: He think he can do everything. When you can't defy physics.
Speaker 1: You can't throw through a defender, right, you can't throw
Speaker 1: through the ball's not gonna go through him. Okay, if
Speaker 1: he makes a mistake, great, But those are the things
Speaker 1: he needs to look out for in the future. And
Speaker 1: that's kind of what even though Cooper made some silly
Speaker 1: mistakes as well, those are the kind of things that
Speaker 1: have people saying, oh, okay, we don't have to be
Speaker 1: dynamic to win. It doesn't have to be a nailbider.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be you know, it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be so hectic. And that's what he showed us.
Speaker 1: Just slowed the game down a little bit. And Dad
Speaker 1: can do that. He's done it many times before. But
Speaker 1: right now he needs to get back into that mode
Speaker 1: because he thinks every year he's gonna come out and
Speaker 1: be better. Sometimes you're not gonna be better. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: gonna be just as good as you were last year.
Speaker 1: He wants to every year to be better, better and better.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be that because guys know your game. Okay,
Speaker 1: players over there, they get paid over there, just like
Speaker 1: you get paid. And he needs to realize that they're
Speaker 1: not just video game players. These guys are real and
Speaker 1: some of them can ball out. He needs to just
Speaker 1: realize that. Ain't understand that these games that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are playing right now, you're not going up against Josh
Speaker 1: Allen and the Buffalo Bills or Patrick Mahomes in the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs that are scoring a lot of points. Yes,
Speaker 1: there aren't very many teams in this league scoring a
Speaker 1: lot of points right now. Be ready to score points? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it Yeah, but when you're playing the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 1: the turnover can be real costly. You don't want to
Speaker 1: keep that team in the game. And the Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: and the Chicago Bears, and as it turns out this year,
Speaker 1: so right now, the Green Bay Packers. Protect the football, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: just don't do that, which is what Cooper did those
Speaker 1: than the four wins, he protected the football. Then he
Speaker 1: went up against Philadelphia and it was a different ball game,
Speaker 1: and that's a different different team. Defensively, they were going
Speaker 1: up again. I think we were fortunate that you know,
Speaker 1: Dad came out, okay, you know in regards, so you
Speaker 1: could tell he was finally got this connection going with
Speaker 1: his wide receivers and his tight ends. You'll be glad
Speaker 1: to know. I also after the game shook hands with him.
Speaker 1: Did he hate your hand? If he if he's been
Speaker 1: listening to us, he probably tried to squeeze the hell
Speaker 1: out you know what he said? I said, Oh, okay.
Speaker 1: He says, I told you two weeks ago we could
Speaker 1: shake hands and I and I said, yeah, but you
Speaker 1: said gently that was not just right? Um, was this
Speaker 1: well still on the field or in the locker room?
Speaker 1: Where was it when I was leaving, oh after after
Speaker 1: leaving the locker room, like at the end of the day. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: because did you see him coming into the locker room
Speaker 1: when he slapped on the button that he was the
Speaker 1: only one. He was slapping everybody. He was lapping him hard,
Speaker 1: and he had the biggest smile, the biggest smile on
Speaker 1: his face, and he was just picking and choosing, And Bill,
Speaker 1: weren't you I was not standing right there. But it
Speaker 1: is not slappable. He wants some slappable. But I have
Speaker 1: a certain tone to it. I'm glad I got to hand.
Speaker 1: They were like they were they really they truly were
Speaker 1: like fifth graders coming off the off the off the
Speaker 1: field from recess, going back into the school building. That's
Speaker 1: the winning does for you, brother, exactly right. That was fun.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about the NFC East. I really I find
Speaker 1: myself pulling for NFC East teams when we're not playing them,
Speaker 1: because you know, it kind of adds the credibility what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing. I'm proud of the Giants the
Speaker 1: way they're playing. I'm proud of them because we kick
Speaker 1: their butts and hand them very well. They haven't they
Speaker 1: haven't had that bunch team to do it. That's right.
Speaker 1: So that that this this division is a good division,
Speaker 1: and I think it's because the trends. We always were
Speaker 1: a defensive division, and defense is really what's carrying this
Speaker 1: whole division. And it's cavin the league. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: all right. So the Giants go to Seattle this week,
Speaker 1: speaking of a team that is a surprise team in
Speaker 1: the league. After Russell Wilson Leavesino playing like he was
Speaker 1: at West Virginia. What was our answer when the kid
Speaker 1: asked us who was the best underrated team? Did you Minnesota?
Speaker 1: I did? Yeah, Seattle's pretty close. We don't even Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should have picked that Minnesota's really the team because
Speaker 1: we know about Cousins, but nobody thought Gina would come
Speaker 1: in and playing the playing absolutely and the running back Walker, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker from Michigan State back in college. That's that's
Speaker 1: a good squad. Man. I just thought about, Well, that's
Speaker 1: a good squad, good quarterback and the good running back,
Speaker 1: and the defense is still playing. Well, it's week eight. Okay,
Speaker 1: Let's see if we're saying the same thing about Sea
Speaker 1: in a week sixteen, because I'm waiting for the shooter
Speaker 1: drop and I'm still waiting, and we will be saying
Speaker 1: the same thing about the Giants in a week sixteen.
Speaker 1: Jones is just see, that's the thing. And we talked
Speaker 1: about this maybe yesterday Brian Dable. You know that first
Speaker 1: game of the year against Tennessee, they score full within
Speaker 1: one with a minute and change left, and he decided
Speaker 1: to go for two. Yeah, how big was that coaching decision? Now,
Speaker 1: I mean, just as far as believing in his team
Speaker 1: and the fact that they made it, I mean that's
Speaker 1: the whole key to it. They made it and they
Speaker 1: won that game, and you know, Tennessee about what Brabs
Speaker 1: doing right now. They put in like four in a
Speaker 1: row and it's just been nickel and diamond stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: it's nothing. I mean when you look at us, I
Speaker 1: like that we get, you know, trounced against the Bucks
Speaker 1: and then you know, shake it off and let's go on.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going along with power cople. You know,
Speaker 1: one what five of the last six? Come on, you
Speaker 1: gotta give us some love. I don't care who you
Speaker 1: who you like? Did I say that yesterday? I said,
Speaker 1: Now you look at the Tampa Bay loss and where
Speaker 1: they're at. That's right, that's a bad loss. I know,
Speaker 1: we can't brag about I think they it just seems
Speaker 1: like in that game defensively, I think they were you know,
Speaker 1: you can't let the reputation beat you. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think they were like, oh it's Tom Brady. Man,
Speaker 1: get out of here. Man. That dude. You know, he's
Speaker 1: got legs, feet, arms just like you. But it's still
Speaker 1: six games out of seven with no more than a
Speaker 1: touchdown to defense. So if you continue doing that, you
Speaker 1: got a chance. Every Sunday right well and to every
Speaker 1: day point Thursday about the Chicago Bears. If you look
Speaker 1: at what's the most number of points they've given up
Speaker 1: this season. They gave up twenty nine to Minnesota, and
Speaker 1: that was a twenty nine twenty two loss. Okay, and
Speaker 1: they gave it up in the last part of the game,
Speaker 1: all right. So they gave up ten to San Francisco.
Speaker 1: They lost to Green Bay twenty seven to ten, and
Speaker 1: then they won twenty three twenty. They lost twenty to twelve,
Speaker 1: they lost twenty nine twenty two, lost twelve seven to Washington,
Speaker 1: and then they won thirty three to fourteen. So they're
Speaker 1: not giving up much them five games, no more than
Speaker 1: twenty points. And we have to consider ourselves. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say lucky, but you have to consider the turnaround that
Speaker 1: that fumble cost on the five yard line because otherwise
Speaker 1: that could be an entirely That's why that's four more points.
Speaker 1: And now you're at what twenty twenty eight? Right, That's
Speaker 1: why micas play wished to play the day. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I mean you wouldn't at the time. You think, you know,
Speaker 1: we stopped the big deal. They're gonna score it, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right? No? Oh, And by
Speaker 1: the way, I did verify you know, the next gen
Speaker 1: stats and whatever that those speed or speed that they
Speaker 1: come out with. Ye, he was twenty one miles an
Speaker 1: hour catching up. Uh is pretty legitimate. Wow, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that my first time. You know, the stuff they
Speaker 1: put in their shoulder pads for how much they've track it,
Speaker 1: track it, that's part of that, and so they can
Speaker 1: they can decipher twenty one miles an Hour's right, that's
Speaker 1: why receive speed. H Walker went twenty two miles an
Speaker 1: hour on this touchdown UH for Seattle this this past weekend.
Speaker 1: That's that's was Larry Walker is his name, Kenneth, Kenneth.
Speaker 1: I don't think I can get my bike that fast
Speaker 1: down the hill, but that you know, you know, when
Speaker 1: you're you're riding on the street and they have one
Speaker 1: of those speed things. I think the on flat I
Speaker 1: think the fastest was right when I was trying, right,
Speaker 1: it was like thirteen miles an hour. I think I
Speaker 1: canna run that fair? Okay, Well, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: I can't ride my bike twenty one miles an hour.
Speaker 1: We have a text from a viewer that goes along
Speaker 1: with what Mickey's talking about. Nate in Frisco is texting saying,
Speaker 1: let's see how fast you can close out this show.
Speaker 1: Can you reach twenty two huns an hour? In other words,
Speaker 1: sign all right? In other words, we'll see you again
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