1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Not sure what the best type of tires are for 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: your car. Want to make sure your mechanic is giving 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: you an honest diagnosis, then this is where to turn 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: for help. Welcome to the car Doctor ron Anadian is 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: here to answer your questions about cars. Get him the call. 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: Takda Ford Fairlane Tudor blue with a black Vital top 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: three speed on the tree ad an FM radio. 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: In now here's the car, doctor ron Anadian. 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy two, a crack commando unit was sent 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: to prison by a military court for a crime they 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: didn't commit. These men promptly escape from a maximum security 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: have a problem, if no one else can help, and 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: if you can find them, maybe you can hire the. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: Eighteen talking about of the week fiber optics light beams 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: in the automobile, Hello and welcome. 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 5: I'm on a knee in the card Dog two thousand 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 5: and eight. 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: Ford Explorer came into the shop at our automotive this 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: past week and it would intermittently turn on the dome 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: light while driving. You'd be touling down the road, and 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: all of a sudden the dome light had pop on, 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: and sometimes the vehicle would sort of shut off. The 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: was probably the key essential part of the diagnosis. There 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: were no other symptoms, no warning lights. Scanned all the 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: onboard computers. 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 6: Anyway, because we always want. 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: To look at codes to see what's port of percolating 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, and there was nothing there to report. 31 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 5: So I said, you know what, it's time to road 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 5: test that. 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: I got to go for the ride and duplicate what's 34 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: going on here, and yeah, the vehicle would turn on 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: the dome if you hit a bump or a pothole, 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: or if you were a little too quick to get 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: out of the vehicle, if you smacked your knee with 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: the to the bottom of the steering column cover, you 39 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: would turn on the dome light and sometimes make the 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: vehicle stall. And I remember, how about twelve years ago 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: I had a customer with a Volvo that had a 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: similar and you've heard me talk. 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 5: About it here on the show. 44 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: That the vehicle had it was probably longer than twelve 45 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: years ago, but the vehicle would stall on railroad tracks 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: and diagnosed it, diagnosed it, diagnosed it, and couldn't duplicate it. 47 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 6: Customer came by one day. 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 5: It was a young girl. She said, well, let's go 49 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 5: for a ride, and I said fine. 50 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 6: She said, let me use my keys. 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 5: Since this way, then I'll just leave Da da da da. 52 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: I gave her back the key she had given me, 53 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: thinking that was the key she used, and she pulled 54 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: out a pile of keys that looked like it was 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: every missing key in America on this chain. It looked 56 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: like the key cheek chain probably weighed about forty pounds. 57 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: Go down the road, and if you remember right, this 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: is the car they went and hit the pothole and 59 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: hit the bump in the road, it would shut off 60 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: while I watched the key go click. So I thought 61 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: about that and I said, you know, I wonder if 62 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: that could be the case with this explorer, that the 63 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: lock cylinder. 64 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 5: Is there an issue with that? 65 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: And sure enough, in looking at it and feeling it, 66 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: the lock cylinder would turn almost a quarter of its 67 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: rotation before it actually engaged the ignition switcher, before it 68 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: actually stopped on the stops it was engaging the gnition 69 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: switch and turning on the dome light. 70 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 5: I could smack it with the bottom of my hand. 71 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: I could hit the lock cylinder with a two ounce 72 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: diagnostic bullpen hammer. 73 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 5: I keep my toolbox and the light would come on. Hey, 74 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 5: guess what you need? A lock cylinder. 75 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: Could understand why the lock cylinder wore out, but I'll 76 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: tell you that when we're done, So put a lock 77 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: cylinder in it. And I had the steering column covers off. 78 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: There are these two plastic clamshells that you look that 79 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: sort of are around the steering columns on cars today, 80 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 2: because I said, what if I have to get into 81 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: further testing, let me just there's three bolts involved, let 82 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: me leave them off and go. 83 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 6: For a ride. 84 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: Let me verify the repairs, fine, and we'll go from there. 85 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: I leave the shop, I make the corner on West 86 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: Prospect Street and I turned down Smith and all of 87 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: a sudden, the truck goes into this violent doesn't want 88 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: to move and turn and oh my god, it's worse. 89 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 6: What happened. 90 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: Got to the corner down on Bonnard, just about made 91 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: it back to the shop and I'm thinking, you know, 92 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: did I leave something unplugged? 93 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 5: What happened here? And looked around. 94 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: Everything's normal, and then the light came on. Service RSC 95 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: Ride Stability control system pull the codes. Pulled out a 96 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: C twelve seventy eight code, which, as everybody knows, is 97 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: a steering angle sensor level one and. 98 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: Two for a Ford Explorer in two thousand and eight. Right, 99 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 5: we all know that. 100 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: And I said, gee, what when we're wrong with the 101 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: steering angle sensor, Like, that's kind of odd putting the 102 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: lock cylinder over here in a steering angle sensor. They 103 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 2: both happen to be in the same general area, but 104 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 2: I don't see a connection. 105 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 5: So I started reading the float chart for the. 106 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: Code because now I'm kind of curious, like I don't 107 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: want to just get into this sensor. I want to 108 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: think what made it different? What changing the lock cylinder? 109 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: How changing the lock cylinder created this. 110 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 5: Code, if it did. 111 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: And I read down to the part that says that 112 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: the steering wheel angle sensor is a sensor located underneath 113 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: the clock spring, located directly underneath the steering wheel with 114 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: a plate in it that has three hundred and sixty slots. 115 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: And I'm thinking three hundred and sixty slots, okay, that 116 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: is operated and detected by the onboard computer by use 117 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: of an infrared light beam. Ooh, something in my brain 118 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: clicked like I heard it snap in place, and I went, 119 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: light beam. I've got the covers off the steering column 120 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: because I'm looking at the ignition switch and I'm thinking 121 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: light beam. This switch is generally like the government, it's 122 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: in the dark. So I said, let me put the 123 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: covers back on. That was a shot at the government. There, 124 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: Vegas in case you didn't get that. 125 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 5: Vegas is looking at me like huh, pool players. 126 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: So I put the covers back on the steering column 127 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: and the car was fixed. Bottom line, it seems that 128 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: this really is rocket science. We've now got fiber optics, 129 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: infrared light beams, and maybe warp drive coming to a 130 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: car near you. 131 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 6: Who knows what's next. 132 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: Do we really need a steering angle sensor that's sensitive 133 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: to light with an infrared light beam? I can't imagine 134 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: the possibilities as covers get old, don't fit our loose, rattle, 135 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: make noise, shed light, let light in. Where are these 136 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: cars going to be in the next eight to ten years. 137 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: I've over complicated the animal far beyond. 138 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 6: Where it needs to be. 139 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: I kept thinking of Captain Kirk, to go beyond where 140 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: no man has gone before. We're looking if the car 141 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: can go around the corner at the rate we're going, 142 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: because we're going to overcomplicate it to the point that 143 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: it just doesn't work. Oh and by the way, before 144 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: we start off this hour of the car doctor, the 145 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: customer came to pick up the car, nice lady, Marianne, 146 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: and we're talking, and you know, her husband asked the 147 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: question that, you know, how about the lock celone to 148 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: wear out on a three year old car like this, 149 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: And somehow I think I got in the middle of 150 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: the husband and the wife because the conversation came up 151 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: and he brought up, well, you know, Mary Anne, your keys, 152 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: your keychain is kind of large, and I just kind 153 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: of raised my eyebrows and went, oh, and yeah, she 154 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: probably she was probably the sister of the girl with 155 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: the Volvo because she had the forty pound keychain too. 156 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: So you know what the rule is, one key on 157 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: the keychain, folks. That's really the bottom line. I've got 158 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: to say, my sister used to do this too. My 159 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: sister drives a Volkswagon only for two years because after 160 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 2: that the lease is up, and we know what happens 161 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: after two years with a VW and it's it's sort 162 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: of like after two years or after with the big keychain. 163 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: She heard the story of the Volvo, and then I 164 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 2: told her this story the other day. So she's stilled 165 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: down to one key on the Volkswagon. One key on 166 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: the keychain helps the lock cylinder get along a whole 167 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 2: lot better, more than you can imagine. Hello and welcome, 168 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: run on ending. And the car doctor told you that part. 169 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: The phones are lit. The phones are jammed. This is 170 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: an interview free hour. Let's get everybody in and get 171 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: everybody out the door today. So let's kick him off 172 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: and let's start with Mike and Piscataway, New Jersey. 173 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 5: Hi, Mike, how are you, sir? 174 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: Hi? 175 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 7: Ron? 176 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 5: Go ahead? 177 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 6: What you got? 178 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 7: I'm been two thousand and three sat and Iron with 179 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 7: a check engine laying problem. What code team zero four. 180 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 6: Four two EVAP small leak? Ahead? 181 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 7: Right, I have a new fuel pump, the mechanic for 182 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 7: plains from Perne Valve Vince solnoying gas cab. He fuel 183 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 7: tested the lines, pulled the gas tank, tested that and 184 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 7: kinking up with a reason for the code. 185 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me ask you this question, Mike, 186 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: do you know if your mechanic or how he's testing 187 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: it is he using. 188 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 5: A smoke machine. He did smoke test. Let me let 189 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 5: me say it like this. 190 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: If your house was sealed, all the doors were closed, 191 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: whendows were closed, it was draft free, and the fireplace 192 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: flew backed up, all right, and the house filled with smoke. 193 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 6: Wherever there was the least tiny leak is where the. 194 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 5: Smoke would come out, right sure, Okay, the. 195 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: Way when we smoke test and evaporative emission system, basically 196 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: what we're doing is we're sealing the house. 197 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 6: Okay. 198 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: The vent valve allows air to be drawn into the system, 199 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: which requires it to do at certain times. The purge 200 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: valve takes the fumes from the fuel system and pulls 201 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: them into the engine to be burned and consumed and 202 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: be gotten rid of that being said, if your mechanic 203 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: is smoking it, if he's really smoking it, what he's 204 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: doing is he's using a scan tool or some other 205 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: device to close the vent valve. If the vent valve 206 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: is the back door of the house, all right, If 207 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: the back door is open and the smoke comes out 208 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: of the chimney, where's it going to go. 209 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 5: It's gonna go out the back door. Right in this vehicle, 210 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 5: like many vehicles. 211 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 2: The only time the smoke is going to come out 212 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: is if the back door of the vent is open, 213 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: So you close the vent and look for smoke. If 214 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: he sees no smoke, If there's no smoke whatsoever, the 215 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: leak isn't there at that time. And I only say 216 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: that in his defense, in the sense that if he's 217 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: truly smoking it, he's doing it right. 218 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 6: All right. 219 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 5: I'm confused as to why he put a. 220 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: Fuel pump in it was the conversation that the fuel 221 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: pumped the top of the fuel pump itself was leaking. 222 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 7: Now, I had an older issue with Haunt starting, and 223 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 7: the chickens in line came on after that problem arose. 224 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: So the P zero four four two, the P zero 225 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: four to four to two started after he put a 226 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: fuel pump in it. 227 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 7: No, I had that before. 228 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then let's back up a second. I'm hearing 229 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: that two different check engine lights occurred here? Or am 230 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: I hearing this wrong? 231 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 7: I had a Haunt starting problem right, which he diagnosed, 232 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 7: says the fuel pump. 233 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 5: Okay, is that problem fixed? 234 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 8: Yes? 235 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 6: All right? 236 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 5: When did the check engine light come on? 237 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 7: It came on after I had the Haunt starting. 238 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 5: Problem, right, so after he did the fuel pump. 239 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 7: Actually, no, before I had I've always had that problem. 240 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So you had a check engine light and then 241 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: you had a hard start problem, yes, okay. And he's 242 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: put a fuel pump in it, he's done a vent valve, 243 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: a purge valve, and a gas cap, right, Okay, he 244 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: smokes it and he can't find the leak, right, all right. 245 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: The problem here is going to be that if the 246 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: problem is that intermittent, it's going to be difficult to find. 247 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: I'd be curious to see when he dropped when he 248 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: did the fuel tank, when he did the fuel pump. 249 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 5: Did he drop the tank? 250 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 7: Yes, all right. 251 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: I'd be asking him to drop the tank again and 252 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: to set that up, possibly outside when it's cold, and 253 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: to test the tank outside with his smoke machine when 254 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: it's cold, only because the majority of EVAPP system leaks 255 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: occur this time of year. When things get cold, they contract, 256 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: little seals leak. So I would want to know that 257 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: the fuel tank itself, that that O ring that he 258 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: replaced with the fuel pump has been properly seated in 259 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: ceiling against the tank, and you may find that the 260 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: temperature change of doing it cold will actually turn it up. 261 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: See what happens is when you bring it into the shop, 262 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: put it up in the air at sixty five sixty 263 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: eight seventy degrees in the shop. The worst place to 264 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: test EVAP systems is in the shop where it's warm. 265 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 2: You want to do it outside cold. So if he 266 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: wants to do it that way and ask him, be 267 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: sure that he's smoking this, because if he's not smoking this, 268 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: then he's never going to find this leak. 269 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 5: It's going to get to be very difficult. 270 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: But my next step if he's gone through all this 271 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: would be to either freeze out the shop, which is 272 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: difficult to do, or drop the tank and smoke the 273 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: tank outside one morning after it's sat overnight and see 274 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: where the leak is. 275 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 5: All right, sir, thank you very much. You're welcome. 276 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 6: The car Doctor's back. 277 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 9: Don't go away. 278 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 5: Hey, hey, hey, welcome back. We're on ning of the 279 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 5: car doctor. 280 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: Let's cruise over to Ray two hundays a double two 281 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: for one question. 282 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 5: Yeah right, you're on with the card doctor. How can 283 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 5: I help you? 284 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Sir? 285 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 8: Yea. If they strap on snow chains, I guess you 286 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 8: can probably find them on a website, right, would you 287 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 8: recommend them, you know, not to ride the car permanently 288 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 8: just to get out of a deep snow. 289 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: Because I go skiing out of a deep snow, I 290 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: could see it, but you know, probably not necessarily on 291 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: the ride to the ski center. 292 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 5: What sort of hyundays are these? 293 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 6: Are these four wheel drives, all whel both four wheel drive. 294 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 8: That you have to press the button? One is this 295 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 8: seven cent fe and the other one's way two, son, I. 296 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: Don't even think you'll need them, right, I don't even 297 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: think you'll need them, kiddo. 298 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 8: You know. 299 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 5: Let me let me put it to you this way. 300 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: My plow truck is a full sized Chevy pickup and 301 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: all I have it's four wheel drive. All I have 302 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: on it or regular you know, the regular highway tires 303 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: that it came with, not a knobby tire, nothing fancy. 304 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: And I plow snow at the shop in the house 305 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: all day long. And the worst snow store is probably 306 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: worse stuff than you're out driving in. And I'm out 307 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 2: on the highways, you know, getting back and forth going 308 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 2: where I gotta. 309 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 5: Go, No change, no studs. 310 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: If that can make it through that type of environment, 311 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: then if you need change, you're probably on the road 312 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: in such weather that you probably shouldn't be. 313 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 9: On the road. 314 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, sir, you're welcome. 315 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: Bye bye, Let's go to Christina, eating Town, New Jersey. Yes, Christina, Well, 316 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: I tell. 317 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 10: You I seventy three year old ladies interested in run. 318 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 8: It's very interesting, yes, ma'am it is. 319 00:13:58,760 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 6: How can I help you? 320 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 8: Said? 321 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 10: They're about the keys and the car. 322 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 7: Very good. 323 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 10: And the thing is that I had the two things 324 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 10: that I mentioned to the fellow, which was in my car. 325 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 10: Went out of my car is leaking and it's leaking, 326 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 10: and I took it in. I put some water into it, 327 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 10: and I took it in, and apparently he said he 328 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 10: had tricked it. When I picked it up. He had 329 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 10: this inner tie rod bushing set and repair fan wire 330 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 10: harness was the two items that he charged me with. 331 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 10: Gave me the car. I came home the next day 332 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 10: there was the water and the anti freeze on the driveway. 333 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so it still has a coolant leak. And let 334 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: me let me clarify this for you and everybody else, Christina, 335 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: inner ti rod bushings have nothing to do with a 336 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: coolant leak. From my seat here and from the knowledge 337 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: I have other than there both happened to be on 338 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: the same car. One's leaking and it was just a 339 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: worn out tyrod and a tirod bushing. An inner ti 340 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: rod bushing or inner tire rod is sort of like 341 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: your arm and your shoulder, a socket and ball joint 342 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: in that sense, and it's just worn. So one repair 343 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: is just a safety issue, that's the tirod. The other 344 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: is there is a coolant leak here. Now, if he 345 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: repaired the fan wire harness, it sounds like the vehicle 346 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: was overheating and perhaps the fan wasn't working, and he 347 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: repaired the wiring harness, but you're still telling me that 348 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: it still has a coolant leak. 349 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 10: Correct right the water right on the drive light yet. 350 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So his next step would have to be he's 351 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: got to diagnose that coolant leak, whether it be washing 352 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: down the engine block and adding an ultraviolet dye to 353 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: see where the stain is coming from, or if it's 354 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: a big enough leak, just to look at it and 355 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: diagnose and repair that leak. Now, one thing I want 356 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: to point out Chrystler three hundred ms as they get 357 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: a lot of miles on him. 358 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 5: This is a high mileage vehicle. I'm guessing it is 359 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 5: six streets. 360 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 6: Okay, two hundred eight thousand miles. 361 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: There are two things that cause overheats on these vehicles, 362 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: and they're sort of calm and they actually are common. 363 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: Number one, the radiator passages are very small. 364 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 6: As the vehicles age, they will build. 365 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: Up an excess amount of calcium and crud down on 366 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: the bottom of the radiator, restrict the tubes and have 367 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: a coolant flow issue. 368 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised. 369 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: That two hundred and eight thousand miles if that was 370 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: this particular problem, but the. 371 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 5: Radiator passages and no amount. 372 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: Of coolant exchange or coolant service is going to resurrect that. 373 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 5: The other part of the coolant puzzle. 374 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: With these engines is that this is a three five 375 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: V six is that the coolant passages in the cylinder 376 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: head are very small, and I have seen cases where 377 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: once the radiator is restricted, the cylinder head gets restricted. 378 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 5: And the only way you're going to fix it is 379 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 5: if you. 380 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: Still have an overheat after doing a radiator, and you 381 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: sort of have to be prepared for this before you 382 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: get into it. If you do the radiator and you 383 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: can prove the radiators restricted, which is easy enough. You 384 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: cut the tank off, you look at it. It's got crud, 385 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: it's out of here. Sure there are cases where the 386 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: cylinder head has to come off at two hundred and 387 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: eight thousand miles. You've got to understand the economics and 388 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: the cost before you just start throwing parts at it. 389 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: So just be aware. I'm not saying this is your 390 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 5: particular problem. 391 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that you know you've got to fix 392 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: the coolant leak first, but understand one of the common 393 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: coolant leak pattern failures with that particular car are radiators 394 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: and cylinder heads. And I don't know the reason why, 395 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: but the left cylinder head clogs the cooling system worse 396 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 2: than the right. It's it's probably the way the coolant 397 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: flows through the block and out through the head, But 398 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: the left head is the one that generally clogs up 399 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: the worst. Just something to be aware of when you 400 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 2: go back to. 401 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 5: Them, all right, darling, And just a quickie question. 402 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 10: It's quin's raining. I had a ton of noise from 403 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 10: underneath anything. 404 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 5: When it's what hunt when it's raining. 405 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 10: In other words, if it's web out and raining, when 406 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 10: I go to let's turn the car I get this 407 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 10: drug a loud some of the noise that come fro. 408 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: The car nothing comes to mind right off the top 409 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: of my head. It would be a noise that, obviously, 410 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: if it's only there when it's wet, you've got to 411 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: get the mechanic to. 412 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 5: Go for a ride with you. 413 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: Nothing that I could call out just from experience. I 414 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: haven't had that one. But if it's there when it's raining, 415 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: that's the time you want to take it into the 416 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: repair shop and let him go for a ride. 417 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 6: The car Doctor's back. 418 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 5: Don't go in