Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: Hello, everybody, welcome, is Still the Place and our very
Speaker 3: special guest start Joseph Bessett.
Speaker 4: Yay, Hi, everybody, so excited to have you for Laura's
Speaker 4: first episode, episode nineteen.
Speaker 3: And first of all, we have to take a moment
Speaker 3: to address what's going on in LA, which is obviously
Speaker 3: these horrible, horrible fires. We can't go on without at
Speaker 3: least acknowledging what's going on. How are you guys doing.
Speaker 5: I'm still evacuated, as you guys know.
Speaker 2: I'm looking every morning and then even in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night, I look up on my emergency website
Speaker 2: to see if you know, they've opened up.
Speaker 5: But they've opened up, but.
Speaker 2: You know, the flames are out, but all of that
Speaker 2: fire and that he builds up, you know, I've heard
Speaker 2: underground and in the brush and in the tree roots,
Speaker 2: and these firemen are so meticulous about making sure it's
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand percent safe before they send people back
Speaker 2: up into these areas.
Speaker 5: So we'll just see.
Speaker 2: I just trust some and we're just lucky we have
Speaker 2: We're staying at a friend's house.
Speaker 5: But I know it's so hard on people.
Speaker 2: I have friends who are my neighbors are just like,
Speaker 2: they're in airbnbs, they're in hotels, and it's just really hard.
Speaker 5: And I have we all have.
Speaker 2: Friends who have lost homes, and you know, it's a
Speaker 2: weird state of mind, isn't it.
Speaker 5: I don't know about everyone else, but it's like one minute.
Speaker 2: I'm just like ugh, the other minute, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I have to help, And the other minute I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm exhausted.
Speaker 5: What just happened. It's very surreal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's strange to be in the middle. I'm evacuated too,
Speaker 3: but you know, my house seems to be okay. I
Speaker 3: won't quite believe it till i'm there, because it's been
Speaker 3: a long time and very stressful. And you're right, it's
Speaker 3: like whether your house survived or didn't work community, and
Speaker 3: there's been such extraordinary loss. There's also been such an
Speaker 3: extraordinary outpouring of care and love and attention, and we're
Speaker 3: all coming together and meeting where we can, and as
Speaker 3: people find places to live, I'm seeing that that they're
Speaker 3: doing better. People are resilient, but it's going to be
Speaker 3: a long road. I mean, we're all in shock, I'm saying,
Speaker 3: in the next town over and I'm like, wait, life
Speaker 3: is going on. It's so weird, right because there's so
Speaker 3: much devastation here and then here I'm going to Target.
Speaker 3: It's so strange. But like I said, I'm really touched
Speaker 3: by the outpouring of love and support and people sending
Speaker 3: clothes and companies, like so many companies are saying come
Speaker 3: take whatever you want, like people are.
Speaker 1: That part is moving.
Speaker 5: It's easy to think of la as not really a
Speaker 5: commune the Tea.
Speaker 2: It's easy to think of it as spread out and
Speaker 2: everyone's doing their own thing, and everyone has different cities
Speaker 2: and neighborhoods, and no one knows what the each other
Speaker 2: is doing.
Speaker 5: And I am very.
Speaker 2: Touched at how people from all over coming to help
Speaker 2: the people in the Palisades and Alta Dina they eating fire, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the firefighters from all over that's been extraordinary.
Speaker 2: Mexico, Canada, South Africa. Yeah, my sister in law said, Dallas,
Speaker 2: they're leaving us, they're coming to you.
Speaker 5: You know, It's amazing.
Speaker 6: A humans are so resilient when when we have to
Speaker 6: be in workforce into a situation like.
Speaker 5: This, we're resilient and we yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: I know what you mean about the community aspect, because
Speaker 6: when I lived in La I moved a lot because
Speaker 6: I felt like, God, I don't feel like a sense
Speaker 6: of community like I felt at home. Of course, whenever
Speaker 6: home is always going to be home. So I ended
Speaker 6: up in the palis and mile House has gone, my
Speaker 6: sense preschool has gone. So when I see that aerial shot,
Speaker 6: it's like, what like how like the village the village
Speaker 6: Gelson's like, it's just really hard to wrap your head around.
Speaker 6: So to hear that the communities coming together is just
Speaker 6: so so beautiful and humans helping humans it is.
Speaker 3: And the thing is like wherever we are the tune.
Speaker 3: I went into the Gelsons at Century City yesterday. I
Speaker 3: used to go to one of the palisades and they've
Speaker 3: moved some of the checkers there, and one song, I
Speaker 3: just went Courtney. We just ran up to each other
Speaker 3: and hugged. It's like you see people right like, oh,
Speaker 3: we're here, We're okay. And there was loss of life, obviously,
Speaker 3: but considering how much property was lost and the devastation,
Speaker 3: it's incredible how many people have survived. Right that you know,
Speaker 3: I'm here with my ex and my son and all
Speaker 3: of our dogs and we're together and we just think,
Speaker 3: you know what, that's what you rebuild from here, Like
Speaker 3: you know what, I mean, so many friends of law
Speaker 3: so much but they're still here. And we really shown
Speaker 3: up for each other, Like the amount of checking up
Speaker 3: on each other and keeping up. I mean, you guys
Speaker 3: have been so in touch. It's so moving, like you
Speaker 3: really do feel cared for and I'm so happy to
Speaker 3: be here.
Speaker 7: You talked Courtney about it being like this is what's
Speaker 7: going on in LA. But the feeling of like you
Speaker 7: can just step just a little bit outside and it
Speaker 7: doesn't and it feels like it's a completely different experience.
Speaker 7: Even you know, down in Orange County or something. It
Speaker 7: just you're not in it in the same way as
Speaker 7: it is in LA. And so we also, I think
Speaker 7: the idea that these disasters happen around the country, around
Speaker 7: the world, you know, when we see them on the
Speaker 7: news and you and you can only relate sort of
Speaker 7: so much to it in an empathetic and like horrified way,
Speaker 7: but like when you're in it, it's just such a
Speaker 7: different experience and like that realization that that's what goes on.
Speaker 6: All the time, you know, I know what you mean, Laura.
Speaker 7: Having fires and stuff and hurricanes and tornadoes and the devastation.
Speaker 8: And the loss and and so.
Speaker 7: You know, we're in this area that just experienced it,
Speaker 7: but it's just one of many.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like our turn. I was looking at
Speaker 3: the pictures of the Palatines thinking, oh, this looks like
Speaker 3: those tornado pictures right where one side of the street
Speaker 3: is gone and then there's a house and you go, oh,
Speaker 3: and you really is that sense of it's clearly not
Speaker 3: just us. But you're right, if you really internalize it,
Speaker 3: it increases your empathy. You go, oh, I have a
Speaker 3: little bit more understanding of what it's like. Like we've
Speaker 3: been watching the floods and they watch the fires. It's
Speaker 3: like this or the earthquakes, and you go, like, Japan
Speaker 3: donated a lot of money to relief, and we watch,
Speaker 3: you know, we share earthquakes with Japan, right, And you go, oh,
Speaker 3: that's right. We are, We really are. We all suffer
Speaker 3: the same. This is what we're going through now, and
Speaker 3: then we get the help and then we give the
Speaker 3: help when it's time. So that that is, you know,
Speaker 3: the tiny little silver lining in this incredibly difficult time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and our our listeners, we know, are you know,
Speaker 7: listening from all over and so we're just sharing our
Speaker 7: little LA moment, you know, in real time sort of
Speaker 7: like with our listeners.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 2: We have this podcast and we're going to do this
Speaker 2: wonderful recap with wonderful episode where character of crazy Sydney
Speaker 2: comes in.
Speaker 5: She's not crazy when she comes in. She's just annoying when.
Speaker 6: She comes in, very entitled.
Speaker 8: So you can choose your adjective.
Speaker 5: I know, I hope you'll take it because you played it.
Speaker 2: That's another thing about our city. We're you know, work
Speaker 2: is very difficult right now.
Speaker 5: The studios are shooting elsewhere now. Things are burnt down,
Speaker 5: people are leaving. There's two strikes.
Speaker 2: I've been hearing that and all the podcasts and all
Speaker 2: the you know things I've been reading about our business.
Speaker 2: It's very much struggling in LA right now, and just
Speaker 2: heard it even more so. People are needing to and
Speaker 2: wanting to work. And I really hope that the powers
Speaker 2: that be do all that.
Speaker 5: They can to bring and keep work in Los Angeles
Speaker 5: because there are a lot of all of our crews.
Speaker 2: So many people work in the entertainment industry. You know,
Speaker 2: I really want just to put that out there. I
Speaker 2: just really hope that we can keep our industry here,
Speaker 2: you know, going and working and keep people employed.
Speaker 7: And one of our many blessings, I think, is just
Speaker 7: to have this opportunity to spend this time together. Like
Speaker 7: I am just so grateful for you guys and for
Speaker 7: our listeners that we have this podcast to do, and
Speaker 7: it gives us an excuse to like just be together
Speaker 7: and see all your lovely faces and just have this
Speaker 7: distraction and this fun sort of little you know.
Speaker 1: This other thing that have a little risk.
Speaker 3: But I remember hearing a long time ago that maturity
Speaker 3: is living through difficult times. Not just like you're living
Speaker 3: through the difficult times, but the difficult time is happening
Speaker 3: and you keep living. So we are all doing everything
Speaker 3: we can help. And also we can do this episode
Speaker 3: nineteen and have a little bit of a break and
Speaker 3: have some laughs and enjoy. So having said that, that
Speaker 3: is trying narrating, which is very exciting because Laura gets
Speaker 3: to this is her first episode, and I'm sure she
Speaker 3: won't beat herself up like DAFTI and.
Speaker 8: I, Oh no, well never not.
Speaker 1: At all I was er.
Speaker 7: I wasn't cringing at all when I wanted, I sure not.
Speaker 8: Embarrassed in the.
Speaker 5: Face.
Speaker 1: O my god, Yeah, of course you're smoking like a
Speaker 1: Chimney beer. Like okay.
Speaker 3: So this is episode nineteen, and to get it right
Speaker 3: into the show, we have so many great guest stars
Speaker 3: that will address as they come in. And it opens
Speaker 3: on this adorable scene with Joe and Jake, and it
Speaker 3: opens on a close up of Daphnie. Have to start
Speaker 3: with this facing the sun and her skin looks like glass.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, when you could just say sure,
Speaker 3: I'll squint into the sun and all look like I'm
Speaker 3: perfect stunning And you guys, as always, your chemistry is
Speaker 3: so great. Joe is trying to take some photographs on
Speaker 3: the beach. Jake is trying to neuzzle her, and he says,
Speaker 3: she says, I'm trying to work, and then Jake says,
Speaker 3: all work and no play makes Joe a very dull girl,
Speaker 3: to which she says, of course a woman, and I'm
Speaker 3: anything but dull, which I absolutely loved.
Speaker 6: I loved it.
Speaker 5: I loved shooting that scene.
Speaker 2: We were out on Point Doom in Malibu where they
Speaker 2: shoot it's famous for shooting Planet of the Apes and.
Speaker 5: That, so you can see it on Some of the shots.
Speaker 8: You know, are the big cliff on one side, very dramatic.
Speaker 5: Point doom to up to zoom a beach and.
Speaker 2: All the way up, all the way up the coast,
Speaker 2: and I remember shooting that.
Speaker 5: Charlie Carrall Dire directed this and he was always so funny.
Speaker 7: This was his first episode of Miller. Chip shared with
Speaker 7: that Charlie's first episode was also my first episode, and
Speaker 7: Charlie remained with us, and.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a beloved director.
Speaker 2: Yes, always very would shoot like set up you know,
Speaker 2: he knew what he wanted to do. You set up
Speaker 2: this and that, and I thought this episode looked great,
Speaker 2: but then he would come up. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you guys remember then he'd come up and chat with you,
Speaker 2: like he just wanted to chat with the actual Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we're back on the scene. So Jake finds.
Speaker 3: Joe's poetry book Collected Poems of William Carlos Williams, because
Speaker 3: you know, Mattra's place, we had a lot of fancy poetry. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and Joe tail Jake. She finds it inspiring. They walk
Speaker 3: up to his motorcycle, and Jake says is inspired by
Speaker 3: Harley's but Joe says, very snottily, I thought, too bad,
Speaker 3: you don't drive one, which is very threatening to his manhood.
Speaker 8: Making fun of his bike.
Speaker 5: I know, she says his.
Speaker 3: Bike is small, a girl's bike, and Jake should have
Speaker 3: adjusted his manhood because at that point I've probably probably
Speaker 3: felt like I was shrinking. And they get on the
Speaker 3: motorcycle and drive away on.
Speaker 1: The beach, on the beach on. The chemistry was so on.
Speaker 6: Par I love seeing them together, and I love because
Speaker 6: I missed the last I think it was the Christmas one,
Speaker 6: which was I'm I'm guessing was what because you guys
Speaker 6: were talking about the chemistry and I hadn't seen Jakes
Speaker 6: or Grant's character. Jake played that soft side and I
Speaker 6: really saw more of Grant. Yeah, totally right, and just
Speaker 6: so lovely to two of you, and both of you
Speaker 6: like together soften as characters. It's really cool to see.
Speaker 6: And then you have your defenses and protecting your heart
Speaker 6: right and afraid of your ex all that stuff. Beautiful,
Speaker 6: beautiful scene.
Speaker 5: Was so hard.
Speaker 2: It was so hard to go like like insult him
Speaker 2: and push him away because we just so got along,
Speaker 2: you know, and you can tell him.
Speaker 5: I was like, why the why does she have to
Speaker 5: say like that? But you know, she's It.
Speaker 1: Was so cute.
Speaker 3: So then we come in to Jane and Michael's apartment.
Speaker 3: The phone rings. Jane and Michael are in bed, and
Speaker 3: Jane says, Sidney, whoa slow down?
Speaker 1: What? And Jane hangs up.
Speaker 3: Jane tells Michael that Sydney is in LA and he
Speaker 3: says she should have called and Jane says she did
Speaker 3: from the airport, which I loved.
Speaker 7: And here's and here's where we learned that that Jane
Speaker 7: has a sister, which she's never mentioned before.
Speaker 8: Like my sister sid who suddenly exists. Yeah, not only exists,
Speaker 8: but she's come to l A.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we needed another character on the show. So
Speaker 6: Jane has a sister.
Speaker 3: Now, okay, it's so funny. I didn't even process that.
Speaker 3: I was so excited that you were coming on.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, because I've been expecting you. So
Speaker 1: as far as I knew you, I always knew your sister.
Speaker 1: So it's like, finally here, that's so funny.
Speaker 5: You're right, Josie, did they tell you it all?
Speaker 2: Had you guys met did they tell you that the
Speaker 2: story was coming? Did you know who was going to
Speaker 2: play it?
Speaker 6: No? Nothing, nothing, And like I think, like you guys
Speaker 6: had said prior, I believe I was on my honeymoon
Speaker 6: because I was not in the prior show, right, So yeah,
Speaker 6: it was cards called.
Speaker 8: Good Time from your Honeymoon now crazy?
Speaker 3: So did you think Jose Oh No, I've been playing
Speaker 3: it as an only child this entire time, rethinking.
Speaker 1: They just change everything I've been, everything is different.
Speaker 6: It was all like, what is happening here? I'm on
Speaker 6: this show. I just got married, and okay, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Great. So then we cut to Ronda's apartment and Ronda
Speaker 3: and Terrence are in bed and they just get up
Speaker 3: because she has cardio and Terrence is telling you that
Speaker 3: he should they should go to dinner in Newport, but
Speaker 3: she has to work and Terrence doesn't seem to really
Speaker 3: respect her work because it seems to get in the
Speaker 3: way of his plans. And you remind you they have
Speaker 3: dinner plans over at Denise and Howard's and asked her
Speaker 3: what she will wear, which I just went, oh, wretch flag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't you guys Thinkonda was rubbed a little wrong?
Speaker 4: But I too.
Speaker 7: She's like, well, actually, I don't know that I have
Speaker 7: anything good enough based on what you've told me about
Speaker 7: these snooty pants people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he starts talking about a dress she
Speaker 3: saw in Melrose and it's interesting because you know, part
Speaker 3: of me is like how romantic. But I think she's
Speaker 3: a step ahead of me. And she said, don't buy
Speaker 3: me the dress, like you don't dress me. And I
Speaker 3: was like, it's kind of a female fantasy, but then
Speaker 3: it's also kind of pretty woman, right, It's like, yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I was like if a man said, hey,
Speaker 6: you know, you don't have to work, but go dance
Speaker 6: and I'll buy you that, Like, Okay, that works right now.
Speaker 3: I think she's getting that might be a little controlling.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's such a good point. Rhonda's
Speaker 3: she's such a good point.
Speaker 6: I love watching her. Her smile is just like lights
Speaker 6: up the screen.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Definitely gave me some cringey moments of like, I don't know,
Speaker 6: there's something about him that I was like, I don't
Speaker 6: trust him. Just do they end up getting married? And
Speaker 6: that's it? I mean, I know they get married. Is
Speaker 6: is that why she had?
Speaker 5: So like we remember, I mean, I'm.
Speaker 6: Just when I'm asking, because are my instincts right? Right? Trust? Well?
Speaker 7: And she does, like you said, she has such a
Speaker 7: strong sense of herself, like, no, this is what I
Speaker 7: do who I am. Don't buy, don't choose this dress
Speaker 7: for me so I can be good enough for your
Speaker 7: snooty friends.
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, she does draw that boundary like I'm good
Speaker 8: with who I am. And we see more of that
Speaker 8: as the episode goes on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Terence sort of whines I won't see
Speaker 3: you till tomorrow, and I went.
Speaker 7: Oh, I couldn't stand that dialogue or the delivery. Something
Speaker 7: about that is the cringing part. We're all going no, no, no.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, not attractive. Don't do that boys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we are driving dumps the Coast Highway
Speaker 3: and Jane has a smoking infant in her seat. Wait
Speaker 3: you find out it is Sydney.
Speaker 5: A wonderful hat on her head.
Speaker 8: Jade has the hat on her head.
Speaker 5: She has the hat on her head.
Speaker 6: And the funny thing about that hat, you guys, it's
Speaker 6: like a couple of things. So, first of all, how
Speaker 6: is it staying on?
Speaker 7: I'm in a convertible when my hair is lying around,
Speaker 7: keep it out of my face.
Speaker 6: The big rose in the front. Oh my lord, so funny,
Speaker 6: so funny. But Laura, it was. It's such a great
Speaker 6: entrance for your character. Your feet up on the deck.
Speaker 6: I love how you put your feet up on stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, so no boundary stone and just
Speaker 1: smoking like smoking.
Speaker 3: It's so funny because first of all, I know you
Speaker 3: don't smoke, and you're just smoking, smoking.
Speaker 1: Smoking as a young kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah you Sydney asked Jane if she's mad that she
Speaker 3: just showed up, and Jane is very Dane is.
Speaker 1: Did you tell our parents? Just curious if you told
Speaker 1: our parents?
Speaker 6: Of course not.
Speaker 2: I mean it was such this whole show. As we'll
Speaker 2: go through scene by scene to see how perfectly this
Speaker 2: character was introduced, and this inter being in the car smoking,
Speaker 2: feet up on the dash in the ground of the shot,
Speaker 2: like the cameras here and her feet are right here.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stomp all over everything, you know, re.
Speaker 7: Just you know that was in the script, that her
Speaker 7: feet were up on the dash and everything.
Speaker 8: It wasn't just.
Speaker 5: Like Laura like put her feet up.
Speaker 8: It was in a script.
Speaker 7: And so in one of my auditions I was like
Speaker 7: I had to go through the ranks for the audition,
Speaker 7: right because I was a brand new actress. I had
Speaker 7: not done a part this big at all. And so
Speaker 7: I go through the ranks, which means you start with
Speaker 7: just the casting director, and then they bring you to
Speaker 7: the next level and they, you know, the director of
Speaker 7: the producers, and then if that goes further than you
Speaker 7: go you know, higher up until they make a decision
Speaker 7: and chase you for the part or whatever. And so
Speaker 7: at the very beginning, I was, you know, reading through
Speaker 7: the scene and doing it with the casting director and
Speaker 7: and I had my I put my feet up on
Speaker 7: the desk, and he's like, yeah, just don't do that.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm gonna bring you to producers, but don't
Speaker 7: put your feet up on it. Like oh okay, like
Speaker 7: you don't know, like how far to go in an audition,
Speaker 7: like this is what it said, and okay, your feet
Speaker 7: up on Aaron's desk. Yeah, I didn't, not on Aaron's justice,
Speaker 7: But I get the very beginning and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 7: just don't do that part for real.
Speaker 8: So I'm like, oh, okay, that's funny.
Speaker 3: You were So the character was so clear, and I
Speaker 3: know it was your first job. But I was so
Speaker 3: impressed with how clear the character was. And when you
Speaker 3: tell Jane that you didn't tell your parents, and then
Speaker 3: you very snottily say do you want me here or not?
Speaker 1: Like you're so defensive, and.
Speaker 3: You know, sweet Jane gets sort of taken aback, and
Speaker 3: then she says she has to work the next day,
Speaker 3: but Michael take her to lunch. And then Jane said,
Speaker 3: again so sweetly, please don't smoke in the apartment, and
Speaker 3: Sidney goes, welcome to lay.
Speaker 8: Right then, all right, what a nice welcome.
Speaker 1: But I mean, we know who you are, not you.
Speaker 3: We know who Sydney is right away in this first scene,
Speaker 3: right yeah, totally so well played. And the relationship, like
Speaker 3: I was watching it going, first of all, you guys
Speaker 3: look like sisters. It's crazy. And I knew the relationship
Speaker 3: from this scene right away. I bought you guys as
Speaker 3: sisters from the first second.
Speaker 5: Yeah me too, I love really, Like I.
Speaker 1: Didn't have a moment's doubt.
Speaker 7: That was my big insecurity is that will I will
Speaker 7: they buy me as Jean's sister? A Like I watched
Speaker 7: some episodes as I was going through the auditions. Whatever
Speaker 7: I watched some episodes that were already on the air,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, oh my god, this girl Josie is
Speaker 7: the most beautiful girl I've ever seen, and I'm supposed
Speaker 7: to play her sister. Oh my god, like I'm never
Speaker 7: nobody's going to believe that, and like okay, And then
Speaker 7: also I looked it up, like.
Speaker 8: How old is she?
Speaker 7: And I found out that I am older and I'm
Speaker 7: playing the younger.
Speaker 6: Sister and younger.
Speaker 7: I was terrified that I was going to be called
Speaker 7: out and people would think I was a fraud. And
Speaker 7: so I thought the most important thing I needed to
Speaker 7: do is make sure to sell this idea that I'm younger,
Speaker 7: I'm the younger sister, and like I so I just
Speaker 7: really like established like the mannerisms of this younger, really
Speaker 7: young person, and like when I see it now, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 7: that's really young. But I remember the thought process was, okay,
Speaker 7: to make sure young, nobody food actually older. But I
Speaker 7: thought that was somehow important that I was.
Speaker 6: You definitely pulled it off. Yeah, and don't forget we
Speaker 6: were all so young too, but yeah, right, I forgot
Speaker 6: how how young you looked in that in the very beginning.
Speaker 8: So funny Yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Guys had a great chemistry, sisterly chemistry. Yeah, it was
Speaker 5: thus far.
Speaker 3: Then we're at a restaurant which must have been an
Speaker 3: Oxnard was it? It's a beach restaurant and miche I
Speaker 3: was going to ask if this.
Speaker 7: Was the real in you know, I think it might
Speaker 7: have been because that's the places.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, So my thinking was you shot this at
Speaker 2: the real end because I remember when Doug was doing this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, back and then down the street is where k
Speaker 5: K Beacon Beacon, yeah.
Speaker 2: Building, and then I filmed out in Point point Doom
Speaker 2: and then you guys were doing your car scene somewhere
Speaker 2: around PC eight.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we're doing all right in there, which you
Speaker 1: know for people who don't know all these places, you.
Speaker 5: Know, member the whole crew, and yeah, the real Laura
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 6: I feel like I remember that in the interior was
Speaker 6: on stage right. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I thought for this episode we actually shot the interior
Speaker 7: in the space in Malibu and you can see out
Speaker 7: the window. Is I thought that was the real lootion
Speaker 7: that we were seeing out the window. I remember this episode.
Speaker 7: I think later when more episodes had to take place
Speaker 7: inside the design studio, it was probably built as a
Speaker 7: side stage.
Speaker 8: But yeah, sure this episode we were actually in Melo.
Speaker 1: We're not even there yet.
Speaker 3: Hold your horse yet, Sydney are outside. Sydney's shocking is
Speaker 3: smoking and she says, you're so cool because you're so young,
Speaker 3: so cool for taking me out to eat. You're hoping
Speaker 3: it would bring them closer, and then she starts talking
Speaker 3: about how perfect Jane and Michael are and how their
Speaker 3: parents used to call Jane purfey short for perfect, and
Speaker 3: Michael tells Sydney that Jane is insecure about her job
Speaker 3: and her new boss, Kate Beacon, and then Sydney of course,
Speaker 3: takes a long drag on her cigarette and smiles.
Speaker 8: I'm just thinking the wheels.
Speaker 1: Are turning already turning?
Speaker 5: Does that en?
Speaker 3: We're a dand advertising and my boss Lucy walks up
Speaker 3: Deborah Adare, who we adore, and drops a note on
Speaker 3: my desk and said and says, don't say I never
Speaker 3: did anything for you. And it ends up being an
Speaker 3: invitation to the Advertising Association ball.
Speaker 1: I think we've all heard of that. It's a big,
Speaker 1: big hot.
Speaker 3: Ticket, and instead of saying thank you, Allison says, I don't.
Speaker 1: Have anyone to bring because I broke up with my boyfriend.
Speaker 8: I don't think that's how she said it, though, That's
Speaker 8: what I felt to me.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: The fact that Allison doesn't have like guys knocking down
Speaker 2: on her desk.
Speaker 3: Well apparently not, although I have an interesting stand a roommate.
Speaker 3: So Lucy suggests taking someone from the office. Allison suggests
Speaker 3: Danny Baker in accounting. She doesn't think he knows Alison exists.
Speaker 3: So side note. Danny Baker is played by Larry Poindexter,
Speaker 3: who not only has been in every show, like if
Speaker 3: you watch every series you've ever seen, Larry's in it.
Speaker 3: I dated him, did I dated him in real life?
Speaker 3: I did before before I kind.
Speaker 1: Of remember going to Yamashiro, remember that Jeffa's restaurant. We
Speaker 1: lived in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 3: I met him at a party, and I remember that
Speaker 3: he and I were both wearing blue jeans and black
Speaker 3: T shirts. And we dated for a little while, and
Speaker 3: constantly one of us would have to change because we'd
Speaker 3: be wearing the same things. That's what I remember about Larry.
Speaker 3: Very funny, very charming. I don't know why we broke up,
Speaker 3: but we're clearly not still dating. So something happened, but
Speaker 3: super friendly. It wasn't dramatics, and you.
Speaker 2: Don't remember anything awkward on set shooting this, No, nothing
Speaker 2: to see friendly.
Speaker 3: I think we dated. It was light dating, it wasn't
Speaker 3: anything really serious. But so he rejected me. Here, I
Speaker 3: just want to make it clear that in real life
Speaker 3: he did go out.
Speaker 8: With me, and then I rejected these defense.
Speaker 3: I just want to make that little bit so very
Speaker 3: funny line. So she asked him and he says, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm going with someone else. And he says,
Speaker 3: but I'm very flattered Eleanor.
Speaker 7: And I thought that did you guys notice like there
Speaker 7: was a music cue on your reaction that we did
Speaker 7: so good? There was it like ding and as you go,
Speaker 7: you know, I just it was perfectly timed with the
Speaker 7: look on your face of insult.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so funny, just horrifying.
Speaker 5: And you played at Gray Courtney. You didn't do your like,
Speaker 5: you didn't do like a typical look.
Speaker 2: You know, you just kind of like looked at him
Speaker 2: and just kept then you just turned yeah, well sifly
Speaker 2: turns to.
Speaker 6: Go yeah, it didn't work.
Speaker 1: Oh, so brutal. You didn't see me.
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Speaker 1: We're back in Michael's apartment. Michael is reading in bed.
Speaker 3: When Jane comes home, Michael tays Jane that Sydney rented
Speaker 3: a movie but he didn't want to disturb her. Jane
Speaker 3: thanks Michael for taking Sydney out. He says the first
Speaker 3: time he and Sydney actually got along, and he tells
Speaker 3: Jane that they need to know when Sydney is going
Speaker 3: to leave, because apparently he's already.
Speaker 8: We had a nice time.
Speaker 1: Get her out, Yeah, super lover. Can she leave right away?
Speaker 3: And he tells Jane that Sydney is jealous of her
Speaker 3: and that he thinks her parents played favorites, and Jane
Speaker 3: says that her parents didn't give Jane the nickname Sydney did,
Speaker 3: so a little more insight into the character. She goes
Speaker 3: into the living room and Sydney is trying to get
Speaker 3: the pull out bed from the couch. Jane helps Sidney
Speaker 3: open the bed and put the sheets on a little
Speaker 3: bit of physical comedy, which.
Speaker 6: Right very good.
Speaker 1: It was very yeah, also the pullout couch like those things.
Speaker 3: So Jane asked Sydney kind of what she's going to do,
Speaker 3: like maybe does she have some plans like maybe to leave?
Speaker 1: And Sydney said, you could stay with Jamie and Michael.
Speaker 1: Well she gets her act together, which, even to the audience,
Speaker 1: we already.
Speaker 3: Know is that really going to happen? And Jane tells
Speaker 3: Sydney Sydney can stay as long as she likes.
Speaker 1: Did you guys all kind of go oh no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for boundaries.
Speaker 6: I was gonna save Jane. Let's get some boundaries. Yeah,
Speaker 6: she's now, everything's like, sure, no problem, of course, that's as.
Speaker 8: Long as you want, yeah, she Sidney pulls out the sympathy.
Speaker 7: Well, I just couldn't make any friends and I filled
Speaker 7: out all my classes.
Speaker 8: And the way you.
Speaker 6: Play, it's so vulnerable, you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 6: just for me.
Speaker 8: Sympathy for sid Yeah, but I don't empathize with me.
Speaker 6: Why we like, I feel like I don't know, maybe
Speaker 6: it's it's coming from a different place, but I feel
Speaker 6: like I I can see that pain inside juice as
Speaker 6: a character of you know, or your purposely playing it,
Speaker 6: but inside in the eyes and like almost sounds like
Speaker 6: something you're gonna cry, but you don't. Like it's really
Speaker 6: really beautiful. And I'm just saying that because that's what
Speaker 6: secks Jane in every time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well sex Jane in and she gives Sydney
Speaker 3: a big hug, and the cameras he was in on
Speaker 3: Jane's face and her smile fades to a look of concern.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well that was weird.
Speaker 6: I've watched it. I had to rewind it because I
Speaker 6: was like, you know when they say like, okay, more,
Speaker 6: you know, worse a little bit ns and eyes up,
Speaker 6: and so I was like like, like, this is it's
Speaker 6: not like expression.
Speaker 5: You have to sell the worry. Do you guys have
Speaker 5: any memories of doing that scene or do you even
Speaker 5: remember it?
Speaker 6: It was I actually do. I didn't until I watched it,
Speaker 6: but we'll get there. But when she's actually in that
Speaker 6: pull out bed and we have the scene, yeah, I
Speaker 6: just love that.
Speaker 7: I do remember because you know, when we're shooting scenes
Speaker 7: that take place in the same room, like in that
Speaker 7: living room in the ploub but we would shoot them
Speaker 7: back to back, right because that's when the crew is
Speaker 7: all set up and the camera's there. So this scene
Speaker 7: where she's pulling out the bed and then the later
Speaker 7: scenes that also take place in the living room were
Speaker 7: all shot on the same day, and I remember, like,
Speaker 7: I mean, I have a distinct memory of these scenes,
Speaker 7: and I felt like Josie, you and I were establishing
Speaker 7: our sister relationship and our friendship sort of off camera.
Speaker 7: It felt like, oh, let's play around with this, let's
Speaker 7: find out, you know what this can be, these sisters
Speaker 7: and whatever. And I just felt like there was such
Speaker 7: an open willingness and friendship from you to have this
Speaker 7: new relationship on the show and then just to be
Speaker 7: like my friend off camera too. I just felt so
Speaker 7: embraced and welcomed. And I also distinctly reminder with all
Speaker 7: the smoking that Sydney was, you know, scripted to do.
Speaker 7: I was like, just okay, keep keep doing this to
Speaker 7: make sure make sure the audience knows Sydney's a smoker.
Speaker 7: So we got it. But Mary Donner, who was our
Speaker 7: script supervisor, came up to me at a certain point.
Speaker 7: She's like, okay, so when we cut in for the
Speaker 7: overs and then the close ups, you're going to need
Speaker 7: to match what you did in the master, which is
Speaker 7: a wide shot. And she's like, so here's where he smoked,
Speaker 7: and here's where he smoked, and here's where he smoked.
Speaker 8: Match that for the edit. And I was like, what, what,
Speaker 8: what's matching?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Oh I didn't know.
Speaker 1: So of course not.
Speaker 6: I know, yeah, I had to learn that too.
Speaker 7: I was coming from a place where tons of you know,
Speaker 7: acting classes, acting school, lots of you know, I've been
Speaker 7: on a stage and theater, but.
Speaker 8: This camera concept of matching was fresh to me.
Speaker 7: And I was like, drop the smoking, immediately, stop doing
Speaker 7: these things that you have to mat I.
Speaker 6: Know, for a while, I was like, I don't think
Speaker 6: I want to eat in this scene because I don't
Speaker 6: want to think about what I took the bite because
Speaker 6: I can't remember my lines anyway, So.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you know, and that's why we just pushed
Speaker 3: food around. If you ever made yeah, right, you don't
Speaker 3: want to take a bite a hundred times, don't actually
Speaker 3: any movie?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 7: The look on Mary's face and I said yeah when
Speaker 7: I said what's matching? And Mary is this lovely Southern
Speaker 7: woman and she just went, oh lordy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. She had to teach a lot of people. But
Speaker 1: I think that what you guys did in the scene
Speaker 1: your chemistry because you were only you were going to
Speaker 1: be two episodes, right, Laura. So this is why, like
Speaker 1: they saw, oh, this is magic in a bottle.
Speaker 3: That's why they brought you back. The connection is so
Speaker 3: authentic and.
Speaker 6: I think Laura's character. I was just we needed that
Speaker 6: on the show.
Speaker 3: You the beginning of it, getting one more crazy. Okay,
Speaker 3: so we're back in billion Alison's apartment. Allison is horrified
Speaker 3: because she made a fool out of herself. She doesn't
Speaker 3: want to go to work, and Billy says he can't
Speaker 3: go to the thing with her this weekend because he
Speaker 3: has the Martin McAfee screenwriting seminar. But he suggests that
Speaker 3: he has a buddy who just woke up with his
Speaker 3: girlfriend and the three of them will go out for
Speaker 3: a drink.
Speaker 1: Allison agrees and leaves for.
Speaker 3: Work, which is very sweet of Billy to offer to
Speaker 3: set her up on a date.
Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong? So, but he does call
Speaker 1: her Eleanor as she leaves the scene.
Speaker 6: It's so cute Bay Salt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the
Speaker 6: delivery of that was so good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Help. So then we're back in the courtyard.
Speaker 3: Jake is trying to leave his apartment when he walks
Speaker 3: by Joe trying to remove her name from the mailbox.
Speaker 3: Jake tells Joe that she's taking the privacy thing too far,
Speaker 3: but Joe hands him a letter from her husband and
Speaker 3: she doesn't know how he found her. Jake takes the
Speaker 3: letter from Joe, writes address the unknown, puts it back
Speaker 3: in the mailbox. Then he asked Joe to stop by
Speaker 3: the bike shop, and then he has a surprise for her.
Speaker 3: Joseps knows she's had enough surprises for the day, but
Speaker 3: Jake insists and says he will see Joe at noon.
Speaker 5: Jake's just like, oh, I got this covered. I'll take
Speaker 5: care of this, yeah, addressing boom boom, Yeah, taking care
Speaker 5: of him. You're so good at that.
Speaker 1: I'll come to the bike shop.
Speaker 7: But you can see that Joe is truly scared, knowing
Speaker 7: that he's found her there, and she's she's got legitimate
Speaker 7: fear about it, and he's like, I got this, I'll
Speaker 7: help you and I'll.
Speaker 8: Take care of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as if he can. So then we're back at
Speaker 3: Jane and Michael's apartment and Jane is getting her lunch ready, when,
Speaker 3: while Michael reads the paper, my brown bag sack lunch,
Speaker 3: Yeah you right, Jane ask what she should say about
Speaker 3: Sidney if her parents call, and then Michael ass why
Speaker 3: is it that every time you get involved with Sydney
Speaker 3: you end up doing things you regret, so the red flags.
Speaker 5: Are telling line huh.
Speaker 1: And Jane says because.
Speaker 3: She is a nice sister, which she is, and then
Speaker 3: Sydney walks in wearing a sparkly belt yeah, compliments Jane
Speaker 3: on her dress. Jane explains that her boss kne notices
Speaker 3: what she wears, and Sydney tells Jane that she would
Speaker 3: love to see what it's like at the studio. So
Speaker 3: she says, maybe sometimes fashionable.
Speaker 5: I look so fashionable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a coincidence's.
Speaker 5: Going on in your life?
Speaker 6: At your job?
Speaker 3: And Sydney asked, you can go to work, but Jane says,
Speaker 3: you know, no, I'm new and then she says maybe
Speaker 3: she can visit the hospital with Michael, like it's a hospital,
Speaker 3: you lunatic, and he's.
Speaker 8: Like, he gives her the love. Don't you dare say
Speaker 8: to that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So then our sweet sweet Jane says, okay, you
Speaker 3: can come for work. Sydney grabs her jacket, and we're
Speaker 3: left with the feeling of what could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 7: And also just to note, like I don't think we
Speaker 7: talked about this. The title of this episode A Single
Speaker 7: White Sister, which is the teak on the movie that Jennifer,
Speaker 7: Jason Lee, Fonda, Yeah, Bridgetpond and where one she's a
Speaker 7: roommate who moved in and sort of tries to assume
Speaker 7: the other girl's life and she sort of takes over.
Speaker 7: So it's you know, the titles of our episode usually
Speaker 7: are it.
Speaker 2: Kind of shows how they in their mind they already
Speaker 2: already know you were hired for just a few episodes,
Speaker 2: but they knew within that arc they were gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: really make you come.
Speaker 5: And it's all based on that movie.
Speaker 1: What was that movie you gouts female?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: What was that based on?
Speaker 6: Remember, Jennifer Jason Lee?
Speaker 8: Or was that I'm back in the forties.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it was Betty Davis.
Speaker 5: Okay, fans? What about Yeah? Solid about Eve? Yeah about Eve?
Speaker 5: That's similar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did an episode of a TV SHOWLD all
Speaker 3: about Alison.
Speaker 1: So it's all coming around.
Speaker 7: All kind of and it's really informative. So as an actor,
Speaker 7: to read the title and you go, Okay.
Speaker 1: Joe's at the bike.
Speaker 3: Shop, admiring Jake's new motorcycle, which apparently isn't a girl
Speaker 3: bike anymore. Just as I love it, When can I
Speaker 3: take it out? Joe tells Jake to Jeski back. She's
Speaker 3: still work In the photos from the beach, Jake walks
Speaker 3: you over to this price and unveils his old bike,
Speaker 3: tells Joe that it's a gift for her.
Speaker 1: Now it's yours. Yeah, you know sweet.
Speaker 2: When I was watching this, I remember that this is
Speaker 2: when I was starting to ride with Grant on these
Speaker 2: weekend bike of thons that you know.
Speaker 4: About, specifically that weekends, yeah, the only one and just
Speaker 4: getting you back for the dinner party thing that I
Speaker 4: never got.
Speaker 2: But anyway, calendars just a little behind the scenes. So
Speaker 2: I have a couple of pictures of that scene back
Speaker 2: on the on the beach that we shot the first
Speaker 2: one because I remember the jacket. So I have a
Speaker 2: couple of polaroids that I'm gonna post.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 5: But then there's one of Ike, who was this guy
Speaker 5: of our trans bo.
Speaker 2: He used to go with us and ride bikes and
Speaker 2: and he was.
Speaker 5: Such a darling man.
Speaker 1: That's a great guy, all.
Speaker 2: These tattoos in the heart of Gold, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to post a picture of him.
Speaker 5: I have two from the beach thing.
Speaker 2: But little behind the scenes here in this scene. He's
Speaker 2: an extra in it, so you see him in the back.
Speaker 5: Did you notice him?
Speaker 6: Yesnytail back here like, oh, I have to watch that again.
Speaker 6: I had to be some crew back there.
Speaker 1: When he's like always yeah, always right. So back to
Speaker 1: the scene.
Speaker 3: So Jake gives her a bike, and all the girls
Speaker 3: and yours, Oh my god, we're swooning. And Joe of
Speaker 3: course tells Jake she can't accept the motorcycle, kisses.
Speaker 1: Him on the cheek, thanks him for the thought and least. Wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, poor Jake.
Speaker 3: So now we're back at k Beacon Design studio. Jane
Speaker 3: is working on the designs while Sydney watches next to her.
Speaker 3: Sidney notices k Beacon and mentions to Jane, look, it's her.
Speaker 3: Kay walks over to Jane gives her some notes on color,
Speaker 3: asking for something the forest green range. Nothing in the
Speaker 3: egg plant shade, which you've been so into lately. We
Speaker 3: all noticed that, Jess. Yeah, yeah, I was super into
Speaker 3: egg plant that.
Speaker 5: I will say that forst green.
Speaker 1: Yes, Jane introduces Sydney to Kay.
Speaker 3: Sidney tells Kay that the work is so fascinating and
Speaker 3: I'm starting to get like nervous in my stomach. I'm like, oh, dear,
Speaker 3: I know, Kay, Sidney, She's interested in design. Sidney says, yes,
Speaker 3: it's a hobby. Introduce all the fashion magazines, to which
Speaker 3: Kay tells her that she has an eye and asks
Speaker 3: her to go get some magazines. Kay says to Sydney,
Speaker 3: I like your belt. I think it's great, then gives
Speaker 3: her the money to get the magazines. Kay looks at Jane,
Speaker 3: telling her that Sydney is cute, and Jane gives Kay
Speaker 3: a fake smile. Jane doesn't give them any fake smiles.
Speaker 7: Well, you can see that Jane was very surprised to
Speaker 7: learn that Sydney is interested in.
Speaker 8: That seemed new. That was the new information that all
Speaker 8: of a sudden.
Speaker 6: Right right, the very thing that it.
Speaker 3: Keeps going that Jane is wanted to do her entire life.
Speaker 3: She was probably a little girl doing paper dolls, and suddenly, right,
Speaker 3: Kidney's interested.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 6: Interesting, of course.
Speaker 3: But now we're back at Jane and Michael's and they're
Speaker 3: eating pizza. Well, Sydney is telling them how KB can
Speaker 3: give her a three hundred dollar necklace, which is thousand
Speaker 3: dollars in today's money.
Speaker 8: Right, thank you.
Speaker 7: I did notice that this was another moment where Sidney
Speaker 7: walks into the kitchen and places her doc Martins onto
Speaker 7: the dining room.
Speaker 5: Just the shoes, Just the shoes.
Speaker 6: You did I miss that?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Michael pushes them, removes them from the table, one
Speaker 7: them on the floor.
Speaker 3: Sidney tells Michael, home nice k was, and it's asking
Speaker 3: about her family and what Jane was like growing up,
Speaker 3: and then Sidney tells Jane that she has a perfect boss.
Speaker 3: Michael says, what else do you expect from Jane? Did
Speaker 3: you feel like they were ganging up.
Speaker 1: On your jests?
Speaker 5: Yes, it's starting to shift. It's pissing off.
Speaker 6: And even in the beginning when they have the when
Speaker 6: they go to breakfast or whatever together, yes, And he's like,
Speaker 6: she's insecure, like what has been? Does that? Like he
Speaker 6: was saying about her witnesses, I had an annoying brother too.
Speaker 5: Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: She's like, my sister's so perfect and annoying And he's like,
Speaker 2: I had an annoying, perfect brother too, Right, they.
Speaker 6: Were bonding bonding over it interesting? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then Laura plays it so naturally like it's just
Speaker 1: this part of her.
Speaker 5: It's not like this malicious thing.
Speaker 2: It's just exactly you're just oh, you know, it's creepy, creepy.
Speaker 6: Because like the vulner the real vulnerability, like you, when
Speaker 6: you do that, it brings it just to all these
Speaker 6: different dimensions of like you're not just this brat, this entitled.
Speaker 7: Brat, right, I mean I had to believe that Sydney
Speaker 7: really was all those insecure things that Wasn't you know
Speaker 7: that the feelings is what drives her action, you know,
Speaker 7: so like the feelings are real.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well.
Speaker 3: That's why it's better to have you play it, because
Speaker 3: you're so authentic, so that that's always underneath all of it, right,
Speaker 3: so that our heart breaks for you. We have compassion,
Speaker 3: but you didn't have compassion for Sydney.
Speaker 6: You didn't like the character.
Speaker 1: Right, we have to have compassion.
Speaker 3: So the phone rings and it is Jane and Sydney's mom,
Speaker 3: and Sydney is mouthing I'm not here. So Jane lies
Speaker 3: and tells her mother that Sydney mentioned visiting a college
Speaker 3: friend for Winter Carnival and tells her not to worry.
Speaker 3: Michael looks at Jane, throws his napkin down on the table,
Speaker 3: and leaves the room.
Speaker 5: She only lies because they walked up to her. Yes, no,
Speaker 5: and there's that innocent face.
Speaker 6: But it's so interesting about this scene. And I watched
Speaker 6: this a couple of times too, because I you have
Speaker 6: to watch it again to know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 6: I Jane changes her voice changes with when she's on
Speaker 6: the phone with her mom to more of a little girl,
Speaker 6: and she is lying for Sydney. My guest, this probably
Speaker 6: does it all the time, had done it as an
Speaker 6: older sister, and fell right back into that. And maybe
Speaker 6: that's kind of why Michael's like you do. Think she
Speaker 6: makes you do things you don't that aren't maybe authentic
Speaker 6: to who Jane is that loves her and has protected
Speaker 6: Sydney her whole life. Yeah, it was interesting to hear
Speaker 6: my voice change like that. It wasn't even a conscious choice.
Speaker 5: Oh cool.
Speaker 7: Oh that's very sweet for you to have just learned
Speaker 7: that you have a sister at all. Liked the idea
Speaker 7: of what this relationship was, and I love that this
Speaker 7: is new to both of us. Let's go, Yeah, I
Speaker 7: love its kind.
Speaker 2: Of harder jobs are people all of a sudden You
Speaker 2: wake up in one morning and there's a sister you.
Speaker 1: Have just trying to steal your job.
Speaker 8: But okay, we already had history.
Speaker 3: We have history, so now we're back in Ronda's apartment
Speaker 3: and she's with Matt. She opens a box of feeling
Speaker 3: a navy dress, which is the one that you'd seen
Speaker 3: in the store window. Ronda says she's feeling smothered by Terrence,
Speaker 3: and Matt says he's treating her well and that maybe
Speaker 3: it's time to end their lonely Saturday nights watching old
Speaker 3: romantic movies.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what's Matt's going to do now?
Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, we're gonna do poor man.
Speaker 3: Ronda says it's a little terrifying, and Matt tells Ronde
Speaker 3: if it wasn't terrifying, it wouldn't be love. So he's
Speaker 3: kind of telling her to ignore the red flags, which,
Speaker 3: you know whatever, He's a romantic.
Speaker 1: So now we're back in Jane and.
Speaker 3: Michael's apartment and Sydney's on the pull out couch when
Speaker 3: Jane walks in, telling her good night. Sidney thanks Jane
Speaker 3: for lying about her being there, and she knows it's
Speaker 3: hard for Jane to lie, but she says, now you
Speaker 3: know I went through all those times, and Jane tells
Speaker 3: Sidney that she made lying look easy.
Speaker 1: When Jane there's a little edge to Jane. God I
Speaker 1: was like, good for you, Jane. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sydney explains to Jane that lying kind of makes you
Speaker 3: hate yourself and that one day their parents will be
Speaker 3: proud of her, and this is so sweet. Jane gets
Speaker 3: into bed under the covers and recounts a funny memory
Speaker 3: of the two of them from their summerhouse of the
Speaker 3: lake in Michigan, which was so right. Really, that's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, So much history in these short scenes.
Speaker 5: That was a great scene that really crackled. You know,
Speaker 5: you're laughing, you guys remembering it. You could really see
Speaker 5: it that you guys were there.
Speaker 3: It was great, great, And then once are super bonded
Speaker 3: and we're all numb, numb, nummy. Sidney tells Jane that
Speaker 3: she needs direction, and she finally knows what she wants
Speaker 3: to do. Guess what she wants to do, Guys, I
Speaker 3: know that Laura.
Speaker 8: I want to be exactly what you're going.
Speaker 5: To be, not because of you. I don't expect you
Speaker 5: to give me a job. Just look at my own job.
Speaker 1: That is shocking. And Jane has a great idea, Hey,
Speaker 1: maybe why don't you want to finish school, but Sydney says.
Speaker 3: No, she she wants to do, and she says something about,
Speaker 3: you know, it's easy to get along here on Little,
Speaker 3: like apparently La was very different then, because that is
Speaker 3: an easy place to get along on Little.
Speaker 8: And she insists this time she's not going to fail.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be different this time, right, ye one thing,
Speaker 3: I know it'll be different this time.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mow you over, but I'm not going because
Speaker 2: making it in Elle is simple.
Speaker 1: Super easy, super easy. So we're back at k Beacon
Speaker 1: Design Studios.
Speaker 3: Kay is working with Jane on her design and says
Speaker 3: she was actually right about the eggflant color, so victory
Speaker 3: for Jane, and all of a sudden, Sydney walks in
Speaker 3: with her red beret and her leather jacket, carrying a
Speaker 3: box of donuts. She's just here to be nice and
Speaker 3: offer up donuts. Jane moves the box because she puts
Speaker 3: him down on her design.
Speaker 8: Excuse me, at least it wasn't the boots.
Speaker 1: It wasn't.
Speaker 3: And she has Kay's favorite chocolate and Kay mentions they
Speaker 3: go better with milk, so Sydney says she will get
Speaker 3: some milk, and then Jane tells Sidney she should be
Speaker 3: out sight seeing, but Sydney says that she likes running
Speaker 3: errands for k.
Speaker 1: The lines are blurring.
Speaker 3: Jane tells Sidney not to get the impression that she
Speaker 3: has there's a job there. Sydney walks away, and we
Speaker 3: are left feeling vaguely uncomfortable.
Speaker 6: Okay, I right.
Speaker 1: We're back in the courtyard.
Speaker 3: Jake is getting on his bike in the court air
Speaker 3: when Joe comes running down the stairs. Joe tells Jake
Speaker 3: the photos came out great. Joe asked Jake if he
Speaker 3: wants to see them. Jake says pass. Joe tells Jake
Speaker 3: that she can't accept something from him without, I mean
Speaker 3: something to give back. She says it's too much pressure.
Speaker 3: Jake tells Joe that he doesn't want anything from her
Speaker 3: and that he's not her husband. Oh, he's so trying
Speaker 3: to get her to see him as who he is,
Speaker 3: which is just genuinely wonderful guy.
Speaker 1: Right, It's so sweet.
Speaker 3: So then we're back at Shooters and Billy and Allison
Speaker 3: are walking to the table at Shooters. Alison doesn't want
Speaker 3: to be there. She can't believe she let him talk
Speaker 3: him into it. She'll only stay for two drinks, and
Speaker 3: then she sees Tom she's.
Speaker 5: Sort of.
Speaker 1: Everything changes. Tom is a door. Doest me go back
Speaker 1: and see? Like what his name is?
Speaker 3: He's so adorable, he's one of those Watkins and Ted
Speaker 3: Watkins absolutely adorable. Yeah, yeah, adorable casting And she sits
Speaker 3: down right next to him and they start chatting away.
Speaker 3: He's satting to be aware at UCLA, he's in the
Speaker 3: DA's office. Tom as Allison what she does. Billy answers
Speaker 3: for Allison because he's trying to get his way in there.
Speaker 3: Tom says that sounds great. Tom and Allison smile at
Speaker 3: each other, and Billy doesn't look happy.
Speaker 8: I love this idea.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a bad idea now what him thinking.
Speaker 5: Was going to happen?
Speaker 2: I just want to know, Like he's suddenly like no
Speaker 2: I did I had?
Speaker 5: This isn't working.
Speaker 8: What did he think was going to happen there? His
Speaker 8: handsome friend Tuck Watkins was.
Speaker 6: Going to be like you gross, like she's you know,
Speaker 6: guys might not think of another guy as super handsome.
Speaker 6: And he also probably was realizing like all his feelings
Speaker 6: were coming up seeing her with someone Else's probably so
Speaker 6: much going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they seem Alison and Billy are not so
Speaker 3: smart even though it's weird obviously sleeping together off camera,
Speaker 3: but we don't. The camera start rolling obvious super stupid,
Speaker 3: and we forget about so. Back at k Beacon Design
Speaker 3: studio at night, Jane is working late. Sydney walks into
Speaker 3: a cigarette, of course, but careful not to smoke constantly
Speaker 3: because you'll have to match it. Tells Jane that she
Speaker 3: needs to leave work. Sidney says, they have some serious
Speaker 3: praying to do at the club Flaming Colossus, which is
Speaker 3: such a great club name.
Speaker 1: Jane can't leave.
Speaker 5: We did have one like that. I think that was
Speaker 5: a real name, doesn't really.
Speaker 2: I used to go to these clubs all the time downtown.
Speaker 2: They've been in different places, powerhouse.
Speaker 5: I can't even think of them there all. I think
Speaker 5: that something like that.
Speaker 1: I remember, did you go with your motorcycle riding friends?
Speaker 1: Is that probably?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But didn't hear about it. That's funny.
Speaker 3: Sidney tells Jane not to be such a dwep. We
Speaker 3: have lowdeb mind, sir. It's Friday night, Sidney says. Kay
Speaker 3: is cool. Jane tells d that Kate is her boss,
Speaker 3: trying desperately to like bring her down a bit. Kate
Speaker 3: comes to the door until Sydney they are leaving.
Speaker 8: Wants it.
Speaker 3: H So Jane watches Sydney and her boss go out
Speaker 3: partying just late work.
Speaker 8: But wearing red tights.
Speaker 6: I will add, yes, popped right straight on your head,
Speaker 6: like it's just a little little little mushroom girl.
Speaker 2: First of the first beret sighting, actually, yeah, we're starting
Speaker 2: to see a lot of these.
Speaker 1: Fashion talked about that beret.
Speaker 6: Actually, I love that.
Speaker 7: I love that Josie noticed that it was perfectly square
Speaker 7: on the top of.
Speaker 6: Yeah a little. It's so good that it was, yes,
Speaker 6: because you look like you're trying so hard.
Speaker 7: Or like in retrospect, I wonder was that a matching thing, like, oh,
Speaker 7: let's not like this way, we won't have to match
Speaker 7: it if we don't pick a side, or if we
Speaker 7: don't have to remember which side it's. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 7: Hockley square, it'll always match.
Speaker 3: My guests were so new and you were Costumer's dream
Speaker 3: because you look great in anything, and I bet she
Speaker 3: could put it. You were like, okay, okay, okay, So
Speaker 3: she got to really have fun with you.
Speaker 1: Is that what you remember?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 7: I definitely was game for whatever, and I thought it
Speaker 7: was super fun to dress for the character. You know,
Speaker 7: it wasn't It wasn't about me at all. It wasn't my,
Speaker 7: but I did. The leather jacket was mine. And I
Speaker 7: think I've told that story before that that was the
Speaker 7: leather jacket that I'd worn in my audition, that Aaron
Speaker 7: Spelling said keep the jacket, and so.
Speaker 8: Sydney wears it in every scene.
Speaker 1: And exactly it's good.
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Speaker 1: All right, so we're back in Shooters.
Speaker 3: Tom and Allison are laughing and engaging conversations. So I
Speaker 3: was watching this again while I was blow drying my hair,
Speaker 3: so I had the subtitles on and when I laugh,
Speaker 3: which my laugh goes ha ha ha ha.
Speaker 5: That's hilarious.
Speaker 3: In a row, I was like, yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker 3: So Tom compliments Alison eyes and Billy.
Speaker 1: Goes, whoa, look, we gotta go funny.
Speaker 3: Tom has to be early for court, but they're not
Speaker 3: slowing down, and Alison's about to ask him about for
Speaker 3: Saturday night when Billy suddenly says, oh, no, I like
Speaker 3: the stove one. Yeah, so adorable and grabs Alison and
Speaker 3: drags her out. As you're walking out, Alison asked him
Speaker 3: what his problem is, but Billy says he started to
Speaker 3: feel weird, like he doesn't really know why, and he didn't,
Speaker 3: but he does say he didn't realize how it would
Speaker 3: make him feel to have one of his friends, which
Speaker 3: is really honest.
Speaker 6: Yes, I love how Andrew plays Billy. I'm noticing it
Speaker 6: now more than ever. But just he just says stuff
Speaker 6: and just and I think it's kind of who he
Speaker 6: is as well as a person open, very open.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so charming image.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so so charmingly. She won't date his friends
Speaker 3: and she won't go to the advertising thing.
Speaker 1: Fine, she says, she can't, fine do that.
Speaker 8: Fine.
Speaker 1: Fine.
Speaker 3: So then we're at this very fancy dinner party with
Speaker 3: Ronda and Terence and it's very fancy and they're talking
Speaker 3: about the symphony and how out of How out of
Speaker 3: Overture is so overplayed well, in its defense, it was
Speaker 3: written in.
Speaker 1: Eighteen twelve, so it's been played quite but it's had
Speaker 1: a long time to get over played.
Speaker 3: Denise says that this generation is in a cultural famine,
Speaker 3: and Ronda says there are real famines to worry about,
Speaker 3: which is she's bringing sort of, She's trying to keep
Speaker 3: it real in this group of very, very fancy people.
Speaker 3: And when he asked, when Denise says, Ronda, what she does?
Speaker 3: Terrence talks over her and says that Mironda is a
Speaker 3: dancer and she's between companies and considering her options. Ronda
Speaker 3: corrects Terrence until Denise that she teaches hip hop's hip
Speaker 3: hop hip hops.
Speaker 1: That's the uncle Liam teaches hip hop.
Speaker 3: And Denise looks at the other guests and says, my
Speaker 3: point exactly.
Speaker 1: Do we hate Denise?
Speaker 5: Ye?
Speaker 8: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Yes, we hate Denise super very predicious.
Speaker 3: Yes. So then we're back at Ronda's that night, and
Speaker 3: Ronda is mad, obviously, and Terrence asks her what's wrong,
Speaker 3: and she says, why did you feel like you had
Speaker 3: to lie about her?
Speaker 1: Terrence says, Ronda, her brother hurt.
Speaker 3: Somebody really cares about her, rather than risping her herself again,
Speaker 3: putting it on her, even though he's the one who
Speaker 3: lied for her and actually made her feel ashamed.
Speaker 1: Although she didn't take it on.
Speaker 3: She agrees, opens the door and says good night, Terrence,
Speaker 3: and Terrence leaves.
Speaker 1: She's really like it.
Speaker 6: Was great and that yeah, strong, isn't she very strong?
Speaker 6: Really strong?
Speaker 1: She didn't get intimidated.
Speaker 3: She realized they were potentially I have to say at
Speaker 3: that age in that position, I would have been intimidated,
Speaker 3: like yeah said what he said?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Or nothing, say nothing?
Speaker 6: And you know, yes, yeah, she's that fantastic. It's great.
Speaker 1: Now we're back at Jake's apartment and this hello. Jake
Speaker 1: is sitting on the.
Speaker 3: Couch and opens a book of poems that Joe had
Speaker 3: mentioned and starts reading, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: Grant Show is reading poetry on the couch.
Speaker 6: It was such a sweet scene.
Speaker 3: And then a million girls sighed at the same time. Right, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: Now we're back at Jane and Michael's apartment. Sydney came
Speaker 3: into the apartment after a night at the club. Sydney
Speaker 3: tells Jane she has had the best time, and Jane
Speaker 3: tells Sidney it's late and she was worried sick about
Speaker 3: her because now she feels like the mom of her
Speaker 3: crazy sister.
Speaker 1: Sidney tells jan.
Speaker 3: To lighten up, and that's just the most incredible thing
Speaker 3: to tell her. And the thing is, Jane says, Sidney
Speaker 3: is going to ruin everything that Jane has been working toward.
Speaker 3: Sidney says she was only trying to help, and Jane
Speaker 3: tells Sidney not to worry about herself. Jane leaves the
Speaker 3: room and slams the door. So Sydney is, I've gotten
Speaker 3: her incredible news out, but we I'm like this feeling
Speaker 3: of dread.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we're in Joe's apartment this scene, I'm still thinking
Speaker 3: about it. Joe answers a knock at her apartment door
Speaker 3: and Jake slash Grant is standing there in a beige
Speaker 3: Kashmir sweater with a crew neck t so hello, yeah,
Speaker 3: and starts reciting poetry The Dance by William Carlos Williams.
Speaker 6: It was beautiful memories. Yeah, it was great, super smoad.
Speaker 5: That would you call that oatmeal v next Kashmir?
Speaker 2: But it was a waffle textured T shirt, like a
Speaker 2: like a one of those like a flannel or something,
Speaker 2: but the waffle textra kind of like underneath.
Speaker 5: And you're just, I mean, so Denise wingate our costumers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's thoughtful.
Speaker 2: Trying to leave that, but it's right there with him.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so he recites this beautiful poem and then
Speaker 3: I look to measure poetry in dollars, and that Joe
Speaker 3: gave him something you can't put a price on. Joe
Speaker 3: closes the door and admits that she loves the bike
Speaker 3: and excitedly tells Jake that she wants to show him
Speaker 3: the photos from the beach when the phone rings. So
Speaker 3: just as we think, oh sweet, it's gonna be yummy,
Speaker 3: you know, okay, Joe picks up the phone and says
Speaker 3: how did you get this number? In a tone of
Speaker 3: voice that we know there's something wrong, and she warns
Speaker 3: to call her never to call again, and then she
Speaker 3: tells Jake that it was her husband on the phone. Oh,
Speaker 3: he ruins everything right, Ull, Yes, yes, he's here. So
Speaker 3: then we're back at Billy and Alison's apartment. Allison is
Speaker 3: writing a check at her desk when Billy walks in
Speaker 3: with the paper. Alison ignores him. He apologizes and says,
Speaker 3: we'd like to make it up to Allison. Allison says,
Speaker 3: don't bother because she's Alison. Billy says he called the
Speaker 3: writing eminar and forfeited his deposit to take Alis into
Speaker 3: the advertising ball and she asks him why he would
Speaker 3: do that, and Billy replies that's what friends do, and
Speaker 3: we're all thinking friends, yeah, right, and then Alison smiles
Speaker 3: and thanks Billy.
Speaker 1: Billy so he always always comes through in the end.
Speaker 3: Now, We're back in Jane and Michael's apartment in the morning,
Speaker 3: Jane and Michael getting ready for work.
Speaker 1: Michael is asking how long this will go on?
Speaker 8: How much long?
Speaker 1: Jane again, can't just throw Sidney out again? This is
Speaker 1: his main line in this story.
Speaker 5: He just wants her out And I'm like, yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know.
Speaker 3: And Jane says she can't imagine that Sydney will stay
Speaker 3: much longer After what she said, Jane walks out of
Speaker 3: the kitchen. Sidney is drinking juice out of the curtain.
Speaker 1: Because of course she is. You do because as you
Speaker 1: do in someone else's home.
Speaker 3: Jane what her planned for the day is. Sydney retorts
Speaker 3: that she's going to figure out a way to help herself.
Speaker 3: Jane says fine and walk out. Now we're in the
Speaker 3: Cave Beacon design suit and Jane is presenting her work
Speaker 3: to Kay in her office. Kay praises Jane for her
Speaker 3: work and asks where Sydney is. Jane tells her that
Speaker 3: she doesn't think Sydney is coming into the office today.
Speaker 3: Kay says that Sydney idolizes Jane and wants to be
Speaker 3: like her. Kay tells Jane not to worried about Sidney,
Speaker 3: she will land on her feet. Just then, Sidney walks
Speaker 3: into the office with a box of donuts brings them
Speaker 3: over to Kay and Jane. Jane asked what Sidney is
Speaker 3: doing their Sydney tells Jane that Kay hired her as
Speaker 3: her personal assistant while they were at the club. So,
Speaker 3: I guess you know what Sidney Jane last night?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't like that.
Speaker 5: That a betrayal. You guys are talking, She comes up
Speaker 5: talking about it. Oh, I know what you mean, a
Speaker 5: younger sister. It's annoying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then turns around and hire and then tells
Speaker 6: me she hired her.
Speaker 5: If it's okay with you.
Speaker 6: It's the first thing.
Speaker 3: Jane is so good, does all the right things. Her
Speaker 3: boss and Sydney are against her, her husband. It's like
Speaker 3: everywhere you feel left out of these little thing.
Speaker 6: That happens when you don't have boundaries, though, I think
Speaker 6: you get.
Speaker 1: Walked true so true.
Speaker 7: Then, like Kay, Kay reveals that she can really relate,
Speaker 7: like you know, Jane is saying, well, how do you
Speaker 7: know so much? And we kind of see that Kay
Speaker 7: is alluding to the idea that that's her personality too, Like, well,
Speaker 7: I I sympathize with that because I am that too,
Speaker 7: And I don't know did anybody this was the first
Speaker 7: appearance of leopard print on notice that I think for
Speaker 7: for Sidney, that asymmetrical skirt in this in this entrance strange.
Speaker 5: It looked like a carpet.
Speaker 6: It was a good choice skirt triangle.
Speaker 8: I think it was a Christmas choice skirt.
Speaker 7: And then I think it's so adorable.
Speaker 3: And then Sydney walks away and Kay tells Jane, only
Speaker 3: if it's okay with you, of course, completely insincere and
Speaker 3: such ab so from possibly aggressively says totally, it's fine.
Speaker 6: It's fine, everything's fine.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I'm not going to eat a chocolate cake
Speaker 1: on my way.
Speaker 5: It's so funny.
Speaker 2: I find it's like, you know, you want to say
Speaker 2: to the actors, well was that?
Speaker 5: Did it bother you to play it that way?
Speaker 2: And you're like, I just got married, I had, I
Speaker 2: got a job.
Speaker 5: I'm saying the lines. What's no, I didn't have a
Speaker 5: problem with it? Is that how you felt?
Speaker 6: I guess I was. I started looking back at how Yeah,
Speaker 6: they were like talking about my back. Now they're talking
Speaker 6: I just didn't you know, it's it's all new and
Speaker 6: in general, God, like I was watching when I've been
Speaker 6: watching the shows, like I wish we could go back
Speaker 6: and play it again with what we know now and
Speaker 6: who we are, I would do so much different. But
Speaker 6: it is yeah, yeah, yeah, But.
Speaker 7: It's also like I we were you and I as
Speaker 7: Laura and Josie, we were like busy being friends, like
Speaker 7: we were two actors becoming friends off camera, right, and
Speaker 7: then it's like okay, and here's the scene that we play,
Speaker 7: and it was just sort of like I just remember
Speaker 7: that feeling of like oh my gosh, it's so crazy,
Speaker 7: like I'm I'm this manipulative person and cut okay, and
Speaker 7: then we just sort of go back to like this
Speaker 7: normal like friendship and relationship and then the comer's role
Speaker 7: and we have these scenes where like somebody's being mean
Speaker 7: and somebody's being.
Speaker 8: Hurt, and then cut and you drop it and you kind.
Speaker 6: Of yeah, I didn't always feel that. I think like
Speaker 6: when you feel as an actress, really feel secure about
Speaker 6: how you're going to play, your choices, your intentions and
Speaker 6: a scene, then then like I'll speak for myself and
Speaker 6: I have the ability to after cut, like okay, let's
Speaker 6: go get some from craft service or whatever. But if
Speaker 6: I don't feel, you know, that uneasy feeling, like I
Speaker 6: know I'm not playing this right, but I don't know
Speaker 6: why I don't doesn't feel then when we cut, I can't.
Speaker 6: I have to stay in it and keep trying to
Speaker 6: figure it out. I feel like I did that quite
Speaker 6: a bit in the beginning of like, how do I
Speaker 6: find the balance of this character is getting walked on
Speaker 6: all the time? Yeah, I was just also me growing
Speaker 6: up too as a person.
Speaker 5: Oh, I think it's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it works absolutely wonderfully. I like it
Speaker 3: because you can't stand up for yourself, like that's not
Speaker 3: the relationship. And she and Sydney is so manipulative that
Speaker 3: she gets people on her side. And you would look
Speaker 3: like a bitch if you said no.
Speaker 1: That's not okay.
Speaker 3: You really didn't have a choice, Like if you said no,
Speaker 3: you would look like the problem. So you were trapped.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any other way to say fine,
Speaker 3: because what do you do?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: I think you didn't have an option as far as
Speaker 3: I'm concerned. Okay, So now we're back in Ronda's apartment.
Speaker 3: Matt is over at Ronda's Ronda's telling Matt that she's
Speaker 3: been trying to reach Terence all day.
Speaker 1: She's starting to have doubts. Maybe she reacted.
Speaker 3: Then we hear music from the courtyard and Terrence is
Speaker 3: in front of the pool with an a cappella group
Speaker 3: performing Since I Fell for You, which got me.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that sweet?
Speaker 2: Such a great and I thought it was shot really well.
Speaker 2: You know, you're looking out and you see the court
Speaker 2: heard there's a three gentlemen with their vests on, and yeah, Terence.
Speaker 5: Is just like looking up, this is for you. And
Speaker 5: they sounded great. I thought they were.
Speaker 1: It was really it was really so.
Speaker 3: Then Ronda goes down to meet him and he proposes,
Speaker 3: which surprised me. That feels pretty quick. Ronda tells Karence
Speaker 3: it's happening too fast.
Speaker 1: She doesn't know what to say. She agrees with me.
Speaker 1: She also thinks that's too fast.
Speaker 3: Karen sells Rondo to say yes, and she says yes,
Speaker 3: and they are and.
Speaker 7: You see you see Matt sort of swallowing the lump
Speaker 7: in his throat.
Speaker 3: I know, dog her sweet sweet Doug. So then we're
Speaker 3: back at Jane and Michael's apartment. Jane and Michael are
Speaker 3: in bed, Jane is telling Michael about Sydney and Kay
Speaker 3: and they're weird bond because once again she's on the outs.
Speaker 3: Jane says, my job, my apartment, what's next, you dum?
Speaker 3: Michael smells something could be the next episodes, and Jane
Speaker 3: realizes that Sidney.
Speaker 1: Is smoking in the apartment. Why did that make me
Speaker 1: more angry than anything?
Speaker 6: It's so rude, It's so more.
Speaker 8: And rude.
Speaker 3: She's smoking a cigarette on the pullout couch and Jane
Speaker 3: confronts her. Sidney says, she forgot right, she forgot Can
Speaker 3: I finish this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sidney insincerely tells Janey he will quit if Jane wants,
Speaker 3: and tells Jane that she loves her.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so complicated.
Speaker 3: Of course, Jane tells Sidney that she loves her too,
Speaker 3: and heads back to bed.
Speaker 1: Oh boy.
Speaker 3: So then our last scene, we're in the courtyard. Jake
Speaker 3: is leaving his apartment when he sees a man at
Speaker 3: the mailbox asking about his wife, Beth Reynolds, and.
Speaker 1: We all go oh.
Speaker 3: Jake tells me he's never heard of her and that
Speaker 3: nobody has moved in or out of the building for years.
Speaker 3: The man thanks Jake, and leaves. Jake looks up at
Speaker 3: Joe's apartment door.
Speaker 8: Isn't that jay Zy?
Speaker 2: You think you could have waited till he's a little
Speaker 2: further away looking up exactly where she was.
Speaker 3: And you know what's interesting about this actor Lyndon Ashby.
Speaker 3: He played this character for two episodes, then came back
Speaker 3: in six and seven as Brett.
Speaker 8: Coop, totally different character.
Speaker 1: I was a character for six and seven because isn't
Speaker 1: that interesting? I knew him? Yeah, Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 3: We end on this is what we're talking about, like
Speaker 3: it's starting to get more serialized.
Speaker 1: We end on this thing where it.
Speaker 3: Was really hard for me to stop, but I had
Speaker 3: to stop it because I had to come on for this.
Speaker 1: But I'm dying. I'm dying to get to the next episode.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like and introducing Cliffhangers is I think the thing
Speaker 7: that that's what Chip was saying too, Like introducing Hangers
Speaker 7: was the thing that really turned the show into like
Speaker 7: got to tune.
Speaker 8: In next week and it was and it started building
Speaker 8: that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So speaking of we have to end because there's always
Speaker 3: we've gone over. Josie, thank you so much, Gosh.
Speaker 1: It is to have you. Let's do this.
Speaker 6: It was so good to see all of your faces again,
Speaker 6: and I'm so so happy you're all Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6: Wait to see you in person soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope we can do another one right now.
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