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Speaker 1: Smell us.

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Speaker 2: Now, lady, welcome to meet Eater Trivia, the Metater podcast.

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Speaker 3: You're live, Giannis.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to me Eater Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Y hospital Us, and today I'm joined

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Speaker 2: by Big Bad Brody Henderson and the capable Corey Caulkins.

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Speaker 2: It's eleven am Mountain Standard time. That's exactly seven days,

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Speaker 2: nineteen hours before I start my journey running one hundred

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Speaker 2: miles in the crazy mountains of Montana. On today's show,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk with Habitat manager manager Jared Van Heyes while

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Speaker 2: he's hard at work on his Michigan property. Brody and

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Speaker 2: Corey will share their pre hunting season fitness routine. Actually,

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Speaker 2: Morgan Olvera from the Texas Invasive Species Institute is here

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Speaker 2: to talk worms, and finally we'll see what the crew

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Speaker 2: has been cooking lately. But first, since Spencer's not here, fellas,

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Speaker 2: let's start off with just some general chit chat and

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Speaker 2: catch up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Will the real Yannis Ptelis please stand up?

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Speaker 2: Please stand up?

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Speaker 1: Are you just saying that because I told you my

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Speaker 1: wife's been calling the M and M see the live chat.

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Speaker 3: Is exploding with eminem references.

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Speaker 4: You look like slim shady.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, then there you go.

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Speaker 1: I was not my goal.

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Speaker 2: I'm just uh, I'm gonna run this race in a

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Speaker 2: week and a lot of times. For these big races,

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Speaker 2: people like to people that are sort of middle of

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Speaker 2: the pack and lower, which is where I'm gonna come

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Speaker 2: in at. You got like to have some fun with it,

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Speaker 2: you know, dress up sure, and so I didn't really

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Speaker 2: have any like costumes that I was gonna wear and

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Speaker 2: didn't feel like that's gonna be comfortable running in that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So I thought, what could I do

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Speaker 2: to be fun?

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Speaker 1: Bleach my hair?

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Speaker 4: It's great.

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Speaker 2: The last time I bleach it, I went back in

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Speaker 2: some photos. I was twenty one years old, so that's

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Speaker 2: twenty six years ago.

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Speaker 1: Last time I had hair. I was twenty one years old.

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Speaker 2: Wow, did you ever bleach your hair?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: My like I had, like it wasn't that faky blonde,

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Speaker 1: but it was very light like yeah blonde.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had pretty blonde hair too.

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Speaker 1: As a kid.

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Speaker 2: I did diet a lot, though this was very nostalgic.

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Speaker 2: To have my wife do this to my eggs brought

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Speaker 2: back the skater days. I pretty much did every color

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Speaker 2: under the rainbow over the course of maybe I don't know,

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Speaker 2: three or four years.

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Speaker 1: So you said it's all about having fun. You don't

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Speaker 1: got like any nerves or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, No, I definitely have some nerves for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's getting to be that moment where it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you just wake up thinking about it and you're like

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Speaker 2: one moment you're like, oh, this is gonna be great,

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Speaker 2: fun and easy, and I'm gonna be the dark course.

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Speaker 1: I'm rolling in the eleventh place, and then like an

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know if I'm gonna finish.

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Speaker 1: That's a long while.

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Speaker 2: I know. We got clear trail last weekend. As we

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Speaker 2: have to do volunteer work. You got to do an

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Speaker 2: hour of volunteering for anybody that's going to participate in

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Speaker 2: the race, and the race director would like you to

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Speaker 2: do it around trail maintenance or a race. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you know she'd probably take any kind of volunteer work.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, we went to clear trail and we had

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Speaker 2: a pretty long section thirteen miles of trail to clear,

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Speaker 2: and another fella helped us and he's already run it twice.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's great. I'm get to like

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Speaker 2: just quiz this guy and basically the main takeaway he

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, the first fifty miles is fun, then

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because you know that's the longest South done is basically

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Speaker 2: on now it's all virgin territory. And yeah, so there's

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Speaker 2: definitely some nerves in there. But the taper has been

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Speaker 2: So when you're training for a big race, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: You're kind of resting up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally resting, but still maintaining. But definitely the name

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Speaker 2: eat a lot of calories. But it can be hard

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Speaker 2: has been easier. I've been keeping myself occupied doing other stuff.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, that's what blows my mind about this one

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Speaker 4: Man, that's great for getting ready to hunt.

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Speaker 2: Huh yeah, exactly exactly. So, yeah, my wife is probably

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Speaker 2: Like I'm not I'm not like a night oul whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So she's like, and she's

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Speaker 2: Like, how's that gonna work?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I think just the energy of the race, right,

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Speaker 2: else and else did I want to bring up?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Newest episode of Roast is out. It is a really

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Speaker 2: one Sarah Delaney and Matt Miller faced off in a

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Speaker 2: small game shootout and Brent Reeves and Clayon Nucombe judge them.

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Speaker 2: Clay steals the show in my opinion. Everybody else is

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Speaker 2: They do squirrels and then they have a little bonus

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Speaker 2: rabbit that was killed that morning right here in Bosman, Montana.

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Speaker 2: We actually had to We skinned it right outside the

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Speaker 2: funny moment because Brent and I are out there skinning it.

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Speaker 4: She's in her office and can see all this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was not happy with us, but Anyways,

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Speaker 2: if you want to see who won, go watch it.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, it's a good episode and looks.

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Speaker 1: Like there's some good kitchen mishaps in there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they both. They both almost almost burn us down,

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Speaker 2: burned down the office, but they pull it out. And again,

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Speaker 2: I've been so impressed because every time someone cooks something

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Speaker 2: that at home. Like that wasn't that hard? Like, well,

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Speaker 2: You guys got to go check it out. Yeah, anything else,

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Speaker 2: you guys are ready to move on all you? I mean,

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Speaker 2: can you guys can keep chit chatting? Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean we always do. You were I

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Speaker 4: Well, we do have guests lined up for particular times

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Speaker 1: Now what have you been? Like Phil said, we don't ever,

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Speaker 1: we don't ever stick to those times. No, No, what

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Speaker 4: Been up to? Man, Doing a lot of camping, a

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Speaker 4: lot of fishing. My seven year old boys really into

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Speaker 4: fly fishing right now, so like my dreams have come true, really,

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Speaker 2: How we were together because we were taking some pictures

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Speaker 2: And uh, I kind of showed it all to him

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Speaker 1: My kid hopped on his bike last night and rode

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Speaker 1: over to the local bass pond and did some fishing.

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Speaker 4: Ie, yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Catch Anny. He caught a couple. It's like a like

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Speaker 1: subdivision pond. Yeah you know what I mean, more for

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Speaker 1: swimming than fishing, but yeah, he caught a couple. We've

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Speaker 1: been catching some good The walleye fishing has been very good.

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Speaker 4: Oh good to hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're stacking some of those up in the freezer.

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Speaker 6: Hey guys, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: We're doing great. Look it's a lot cooler, which is

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Speaker 2: where you're at, Phil. We don't have Jared up on

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Speaker 3: Something. Oh sorry, honest, that's all right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I like it. I like that T shirt Jared.

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Speaker 2: I got one of those. I wear it all the time.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know what we like to do. We like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so today I am on my forty acre parcel.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what so you're you're getting more sunlight to

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Speaker 5: I think when I'm done, I'm gonna have a tree

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Speaker 1: Are you're gonna get rid of them?

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Speaker 6: The edges where you see along the back that will remain.

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Speaker 4: Yet, Jared, I grew up in northwest Montana where logging

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Speaker 7: And that's heavily browsed on. That's the stump that's heavily

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Speaker 2: Oh man. But yeah, I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: But like a little bit of logging in your area, man,

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Speaker 4: There's places in northwest Montana they're disgustingly overgrown and need

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jared, thanks for the update from I guess

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Speaker 6: Thanks to honest. I appreciate it. Guys.

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Speaker 5: If you want more of the habitat content where you

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Speaker 5: try to make your property better for hunting and wildlife,

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Speaker 5: it's a habitat podcast. And if you want some food

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Speaker 5: plot seed that's super attractive and also helps build the

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Speaker 6: That's a vitalized seeds. So I appreciate the time for

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Jared. Good luck out there, be safe.

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Speaker 5: You might if you guys want, I can drop a

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Speaker 2: Let's go. No one's gonna say no to that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, isn't it In the entrance of the meat

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Speaker 8: Right, that's right, always got it pre cut that nice

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he had already done his face cut.

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Speaker 3: This is what the show is all about, right.

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Speaker 1: Timber Oh look at it, Bravo.

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Speaker 2: That right there makes me extreme. I have extreme fomo

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Speaker 2: right now because I would love to be in Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: right you guys, thanks thanks Jared. Oh, I love it.

445
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Speaker 1: I love it.

446
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Speaker 2: I know it's probably a real foreign concept to you,

447
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Speaker 2: just being a straight up Western Western boy, because like

448
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 2: people don't do a lot of like habitat management. I

449
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: think it's coming to the West. I think, like the

450
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 2: real high end ranches, it's happening on oh for sure.

451
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Speaker 2: But like Paul Lewis, it just owns a small chunk

452
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Speaker 2: in in some mountains not far from here. I haven't

453
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Speaker 2: heard him talking about doing habitat improvements.

454
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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I mean I think it's all dependent

455
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Speaker 1: on what kind of forest you got, terrain you got,

456
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Speaker 1: what's going to come out of it, you know?

457
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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, my quarter acre and Bozeman doesn't need a

458
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Speaker 4: whole lot of habitat enhancement.

459
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Speaker 1: But they like you could, like in a lot of places,

460
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Speaker 1: you can do that. If you have like valuable timber, you.

461
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Speaker 2: Can do that and make oh some serious money for sure.

462
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Speaker 1: My dad's he's only got like thirty acres, but he's

463
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Speaker 1: done a couple cuts in the last twenty years and

464
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Speaker 1: made some coin and made it better for the deer.

465
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Speaker 2: Right, what was he mostly? You know what kind of

466
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Speaker 2: timber he was selling? Mostly hard, like a very oak

467
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Speaker 2: chi wallnut maybe.

468
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, Our next segment it's called We're gonna come

470
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Speaker 2: up with a better title, but it's going to be

471
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Speaker 2: called training for Hunting and uh oh no, I had

472
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Speaker 2: two versions of it. Our next segment is called Hunting Fitness.

473
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Speaker 2: This segment is brought to you by Mountainknops.

474
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Speaker 1: How about hunting for fitness?

475
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Speaker 2: Hunting for Oh yeah, like oh Phil likes yeah, yeah.

476
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Speaker 6: All right.

477
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Speaker 2: First off, fellas, I want to know like, do you

478
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Speaker 2: think this is a real thing? Do I really need

479
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Speaker 2: to be fit to be a successful hunter?

480
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Speaker 1: No? No, I don't think it's cut and dry. I

481
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Speaker 1: know where you're going. Yeah, I don't think it's cutting.

482
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Speaker 1: Oh I don't have I don't have an end goal here.

483
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Speaker 1: This is just a question.

484
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Speaker 4: You got some coinage, you don't have to get off

485
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Speaker 4: your ass.

486
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Speaker 1: Oh right, And I mean, look, there's dudes that road hunt.

487
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Speaker 1: There's dudes that drive their four wheeler to their tree

488
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: stand and walk ten feet, get their tree stand, and

489
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Speaker 1: get back.

490
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Speaker 4: In their four wheeler and kill big stuff.

491
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Speaker 1: So I think it's like situationally dependent. I'm not trying

492
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Speaker 1: to say don't bother at all. Don't get me wrong.

493
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, to each their own. You can hire mandatory. No,

494
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 4: you can hire somebody to do it for you. Or

495
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Speaker 4: but if you want to like really earn an animal,

496
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: say Western Rocky Mountain elk, you better get fit.

497
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Speaker 1: I think yeah, it could be mandatory. And I don't

498
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Speaker 1: like the like extreme elk hunter athlete thing. It's like

499
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: so annoying that narrative to me. But like take running

500
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Speaker 1: around in eastern Montana hunting like sharp tails in peasants,

501
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: like you can cover a lot of ground and you

502
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Speaker 1: look at that stuff and you're like, that's easy walking.

503
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Speaker 1: You go do it for six or eight hours and

504
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: it'll take it out of you, you know. So I

505
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Speaker 1: don't think it's just this like killing a bull on

506
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Speaker 1: top of the mountain thing.

507
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not like you're gonna wait

508
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: to get in shape for when you finally decide to

509
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Speaker 2: go sheep hunt. You draw a sheep, right, Yeah.

510
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Speaker 4: It's a lot more fun if you're in shape.

511
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of my I think takeaway. And my

512
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: thought is just like it's easier.

513
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easier, and you can like enjoy yourself.

514
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you don't look.

515
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: At a thousand foot climb and like you're like, oh god,

516
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, then you get up there and you're sucking wind. Yeah,

517
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: and you're only gonna do it once.

518
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: And really with el hunting, and again we kind of

519
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: always fall back to that, but you're gonna have to

520
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: do that multiple times, multiple days in a row.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Rather than successful, I would say it makes you

522
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: more efficient, makes you more capable, and you're gonna be

523
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: more comfortable and you're gonna have more fun.

524
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would do more smiling. All right, So what

525
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Speaker 2: are you guys doing to get ready? It's middle of July.

526
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Speaker 2: Are you guys thinking about already sort of doing a

527
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Speaker 2: little little price thinking about it?

528
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's never not on my mind, Brody, You're going

529
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Speaker 4: and go ahead.

530
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I keep it simple, man, Like

531
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Speaker 1: I like, I don't, I don't, you don't. I don't

532
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: need a gym membership. You don't need to pay for

533
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: a personal trainer or a coach or whatever. Like I run,

534
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 1: and I do push ups and sit ups, you know,

535
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: Like I probably put in I don't know, on average,

536
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: thirty five maybe forty miles a week I do.

537
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Speaker 2: That's pretty heavy, loved Brody. Yeah, I mean, I mean

538
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: that's nothing to shake a stick at.

539
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I'm doing.

540
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Speaker 1: But uh, And I also, like, I think it's good

541
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Speaker 1: to have a goal that keeps you motivated, Like you

542
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: got your one hundred mile race. I do a half

543
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: marathon in early September, which keeps me going through the summer,

544
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Speaker 1: you know. And I just think it's like simple. You

545
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Speaker 1: do cardio for legs and lungs, a little resistance with

546
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Speaker 1: push ups and sit ups, and like I'm no superhuman athlete.

547
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: That's for sure, and I still get tired out there,

548
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: but I'm also like I'm in my fifties, buddy, and

549
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: stuff starts getting harder, like whether you want to admit

550
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: it or not, So if I want to keep doing this,

551
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: like that's that's like, Yeah, you get to a point

552
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: where it's not even a do you or do you

553
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: not want to?

554
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: Like you pretty much have to if you want to

555
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: continue doing what we do. Yeah, which again is not

556
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: like the extreme hunting that you know some portrayal there.

557
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: It's pretty general basic you know, Western United States hunting

558
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: and whether it's upland birds or you know, elk in

559
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: the mountains or deer oud East whatever like yep, yeah,

560
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: if you want to keep doing it, you got to

561
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Speaker 2: stay in shape, for sure.

562
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Speaker 1: And I want to keep doing it as long as

563
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Speaker 1: I can, you know. Like the thing is is like

564
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you were when you're in your twenties,

565
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Speaker 1: but like I wasn't even in my thirties. Like you

566
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Speaker 1: can kind of get away with it right for a

567
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Speaker 1: while in some respects, but like you're just like grinding

568
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: through it, you know, tough young guy, but yeah, you

569
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Speaker 1: could eat.

570
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Speaker 4: Whatever you want to drink whatever you want to. Can't

571
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Speaker 4: do that anymore.

572
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Speaker 1: But I also look back now and I'm like, what

573
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Speaker 1: if I had been training then? Like holy shit? Yeah yeah.

574
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Speaker 2: What I noticed too is that I used to just

575
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Speaker 2: like just start running, saying I don't know the summertime,

576
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Speaker 2: and then I'd be ready to go for the fall yep.

577
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Speaker 2: But like now, like I can't even afford to do that,

578
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Speaker 2: Like I pretty much have to run or just stay

579
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Speaker 2: active somewhat through the winter and then you know, maybe

580
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Speaker 2: up my volume of running, but like you can't you

581
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Speaker 2: let it drop off, just like the rebound takes so

582
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Speaker 2: long to just get back to the baseline again.

583
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Speaker 1: You know, what about you, Corey?

584
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Speaker 4: I do a little running. I had a lot more

585
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Speaker 4: motivation last year. Of course, we did that Mountain Marathon

586
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Speaker 4: last year.

587
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Speaker 2: Oh you're not going for the Bridge Ridge Run again?

588
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Speaker 1: Nope, I'm not.

589
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Speaker 4: No, probably one and done. I don't know. It was fun,

590
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: but I mean my motivations, yeah, just well, spring and

591
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Speaker 4: fall and throughout the winter, trying to keep up with

592
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Speaker 4: the animals I'm chasing. But I run a little bit.

593
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Speaker 4: I have this seven mile loop that I do around

594
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Speaker 4: town that's got a couple ups and downs to it.

595
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Speaker 4: If I can do that under an hour, I'm feeling

596
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Speaker 4: pretty good. But come August I'll really start thinking about

597
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 4: it a lot harder. I'll probably stop running and do

598
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 4: more mountain climbing with a weighted pack. I think kids

599
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 4: call it rucking these days. Yeah, do a lot more

600
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Speaker 4: of that, whether it's in my hunting spot or just

601
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 4: here locally, just trying to find a steep hill. I'll

602
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 4: definitely start eating better too. Like a lot of people

603
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Speaker 4: do dry January, I do dry August. Try not to

604
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Speaker 4: drink as much many beers.

605
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Speaker 1: Dude, I got I cut the alcohol about whatever seven

606
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: months ago, and it's I think it ties into fitness

607
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: for me. Like I got a sleep better, yep, got

608
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: more energy, My guts work better. Yeah, I win more

609
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: trivia games if I haven't been drinking. Yeah.

610
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 4: See, if I'm sneaking a beer, I feel like I

611
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: do better at trivia. But come August, I'll stop drinking.

612
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Speaker 4: But then come September, while I'm hunting, I'm gonna crack

613
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: a few coups like so sure ice cool box, you know.

614
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 4: And then stretching is a massive one. I've skied my

615
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: whole life and my knees in my back already paying

616
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Speaker 4: for it. And if I don't stretch like for solid

617
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty minutes every morning, I pay for it.

618
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Speaker 2: Pretty basic stretching. Is it more like a mobility a

619
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Speaker 2: routine or what are we talking?

620
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Speaker 1: Mobility?

621
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of basic stretches, hips, sneeze back, and

622
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 4: it just it's amazing how much more you can get

623
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Speaker 4: away with and how the aches and pains just aren't

624
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 4: there if you just stretch. Yeah, I've never had knee

625
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: problems since I've started religiously stretching in them.

626
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Speaker 1: When it comes time to throw a big load of

627
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: meat on your back, Yeah, makes a big difference then.

628
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Speaker 2: Man, I've said it dozens of times before, But when

629
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Speaker 2: I was on a strict yogurt routine for those two

630
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: or three years, you know, you get stoved up when

631
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Speaker 2: you're bent over an elk, gutting and skin in, you know, Yeah,

632
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: and then like every time you stand.

633
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Speaker 1: Up, you're like, oh, I don't know if I'm gonna

634
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Speaker 1: make it back up to vertical. Like if I was

635
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: doing the yoga thing, like I could do three elk

636
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Speaker 1: in a row and never even have stoved up come

637
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Speaker 1: through my head.

638
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: Not once yoga pilates, because the.

639
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: Core I think was just strong.

640
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Speaker 1: You know.

641
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Speaker 2: Tyler Jones from the Element, He recently posted that he

642
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: was working out getting ready for an elk hunt, and

643
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: he was asking people on the internet, you know, what

644
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: should I do?

645
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: Uh? Any other?

646
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: He kind of said, this is what I'm doing, Should

647
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Speaker 2: I add anything in? And where I commented and I

648
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: think it's uh, it's good to think about and remember,

649
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: and because I've been caught on it too, and it

650
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: really helps. Is that when you're on your.

651
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: Western el khunt, like he's gonna come up from Texas, right,

652
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna have a week or so, right, or

653
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: whatever hunt you go to do. If you're that kind

654
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: of a hunter, and you're not just doing the weekend, right,

655
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna hunt five days in a row, seven days

656
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: in a row. And I think your training kind of

657
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: has to mimic that too, right, because if you're like,

658
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Speaker 1: oh I trained and then you take a day or

659
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: two off and then I trained again, right, that's not

660
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: what an elk hunt is like. Because an elk hunt

661
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Speaker 1: is like, oh no.

662
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Speaker 2: You pounded it hard day one, and then you really

663
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: want to do that day two, three, and four, as well.

664
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: So a lot of yeah that first day, especially if

665
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: they're not like acclimating for a couple of days, hiking

666
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: around for a couple of days before the hunt, like

667
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: and they just go like go hard that first day

668
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: and then the second day it's just like you got

669
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: to maintain man unless you get lucky opening morning.

670
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: No, yeah, who does that. I haven't killed anything on

671
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: opening morning. I don't know maybe ever. All right, thanks

672
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: Mountain Ops for sponsoring that segment. We appreciate it. Phil

673
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: A Thanks time for some listener feedback.

674
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: To do some listener feedback, get those questions in for

675
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: the crew if you have any. We have a question

676
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: for Brody from the Brothers Harrison. They ask, Hey, Brody Harris,

677
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: I'm not so experienced whileye angler, what is your recommendation

678
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: for baits and structure to start at on a smaller lake?

679
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: I am not an expert WALLEYE. Angler. You should be

680
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: asking this to seth or to Chester. But we fish

681
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't call it a small lake. Most like

682
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: our main lake that we fish is probably like I

683
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: think it's twenty five hundred or three thousand acres, so

684
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: it's not giant and weed lines in the summer are

685
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: like our go to spot this time in the summer.

686
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: It's anywhere from twelve to twenty feet deep off weed lines.

687
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: It just concentrates the fish because that's where the little

688
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: perch are. So like that's one thing and you can

689
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: do like you can jig those weed lines with a

690
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: soft plastics or throw a have a crawler on a

691
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: jig head. You control crank baits along those weed lines.

692
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: You can run bottom bouncers. The other thing that I

693
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: know Seth and Chester look for a lot are contour,

694
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: So like maybe you've got like a bay that's ten

695
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: feet deep and then it drops off to twenty pretty quick.

696
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: Those kind of contours. I know, whileye guys look for

697
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: a lot I talk about and we catch our share

698
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: of walleyes. But like I'm still learning and luckily we

699
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: got some good lakes around here to learn on. So

700
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: that's that's all I got for you, man. That thing,

701
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: he's a pretty thorough answer.

702
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: That was Chris asks. As you know, it's the preference

703
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: point application period for wyoming in Montana.

704
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Is there a.

705
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: Particular state or species where you guys are banking points

706
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: or acquiring points? I suppose you guys what a strategy

707
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: or preferences.

708
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's different for residents and non residents, right,

709
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: like for us here in Montana, like we already applied

710
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: for our bonus points. We don't have preference points here

711
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: as non residents. But yeah, I'm building up points in

712
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: Wyoming for mule deer and antelope. I got so many

713
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: deer points in Wyoming, but like not enough to get

714
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: the top tier tag. So I'm like every year I'm

715
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: wondering whether I should burn them or not.

716
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if there's anything still left

717
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: open besides Wyoming Montana, but yeah, I've already got my

718
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: Wyoming points. I still do pronghorn, mule deer, elk down there.

719
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: What else do I apply? I get points in Arizona,

720
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: and then I think just Idaho. In New Mexico I apply,

721
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: but that's not a point system, that's just a straight lottery.

722
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: Oh and then Colorado, and you know it would be

723
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: a lot less. But the reason I still do Colorado

724
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: is because we lived there for a long time. So

725
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: I started banking points when when I was a resident

726
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: and it was cheap, and now I feel like I

727
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: can't stop. And I guided in Arizona, and so I

728
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: already had to buy the hunting license and then the

729
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: points were cheap, and so they kind of got me.

730
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: The one thing about points, man, like you gotta have

731
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: some kind of plan because like, like you can't just

732
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: expect like, oh, I'm gonna get points for five years

733
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get some crazy awesome tech. Like you

734
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: need to do research and see what your points are

735
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: gonna get, you know, in whatever state or unit you

736
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: might species you might be interested in. Just having points

737
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: isn't enough, you.

738
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: Know, no, But man, it's like it's kind of like, uh,

739
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: when it was a good day to you know, any

740
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: day is a good day. Never mind, let's skip that one.

741
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: Get the points because you just have to start and

742
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: maybe do your research once you already have five points.

743
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 2: But like you'll be so happy that because I started

744
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: writing about at the age of thirty and now I'm

745
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: coming on fifty and like it's finally it's taking twenty

746
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: years to kind of be in that position and be like, oh, yeah,

747
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: look at this, I have a pretty good chance to

748
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: draw on that one or that one or that one,

749
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a once in a lifetime kind

750
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: of a drill because I'm probably not gonna apply for

751
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: those same tags when I'm seventy, you know.

752
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just saying it like like it's it's

753
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: an investment over time. You put in for fifteen years

754
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: at whatever, fifty bucks a point, you know you're.

755
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it adds up, It adds up.

756
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

757
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: I would definitely like, uh, stick to one state or

758
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: like like, don't spend your money thin to where you

759
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: just have a little bit here and there, or like

760
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 2: by one point one year here and another point another

761
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: year here, like pick one stick to it and make

762
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: sure you're accumulating those and yeah, and set your expectations.

763
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 2: I think, like you're saying, a lot of people think that, Oh,

764
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: I'll just you know, apply for ten years next thing.

765
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna have some you know, I'll have

766
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: the best tag in Wyoming.

767
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta study maybe not maybe, I gotta study

768
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: draw odds and and things like that and figure out

769
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: what your points are going to get you. What else

770
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: we got?

771
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: Freddy Rick asks what the crew is cooking with with

772
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: their wild game this week, Freddie, hang out for another

773
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: twenty minutes and you'll find out. Wow, River Rock dental,

774
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: says Phil. What determines the cast of the media to

775
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: Radio Life crew seems like whoever isn't in a special meeting.

776
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: This is a great question for one of the guys

777
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: sitting at the desk right now because he did this

778
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: for a long time, Corey. It's not an easy process.

779
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a little tough with with a crew

780
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: like ours who's constantly in and out of the office,

781
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: sometimes without letting people know.

782
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, whoever's in the house on a Thursday from a

783
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: ten thirty to twelve thirty Mountain standard time. That's really it.

784
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: I mean, and it gets tougher obviously as hunting season

785
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 4: gets closer. But I mean, there's a reason why I'm

786
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: here because Steve's in Africa.

787
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: Otherwise Steve would have done this episode.

788
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: No, probably not.

789
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well we kind of plan it out.

790
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: It's very planned out.

791
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: I knew that I was hosting this episode for at

792
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: least a month.

793
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, we try and have it planned out

794
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 4: at least three weeks ahead of time. But yeah, it's

795
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: it's kind of a crapshoot. Everybody's so busy. Yeah, all

796
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 4: these guys there, whether they're kissing babies, at an event

797
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 4: somewhere out hunting, it's tough to track them down, even

798
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 4: on just a random Thursday.

799
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: So I thought this was a fun question from Tea Patsfield.

800
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: He or they ask what other animal is the biggest

801
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: nuisance to hunters, for example, gray squirrels hunting, white tail

802
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: or coyotes disrupting hunts, et cetera, like other wildlife or

803
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 3: nature getting in the way of your hunt.

804
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 2: I actually don't think the gray squirrels actually are such

805
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: a nuisance. With white tail kyotes disrupting hunt, I've had.

806
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: On two occasions I've had coyotes screw up a mule

807
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: deer hunt.

808
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: Oh really, like they spooked your game?

809
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: Actually are I don't know if it made it into

810
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: the episode or not. But the episode that I did

811
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: with Steve and like Steven seven, we had coyotes come

812
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: in on a very nice mule deer buck that I

813
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: was getting ready to shoot. Yeah, yeah, and there they went.

814
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: But I thought all the does ran the buck just

815
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: stayed there.

816
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: No, No, he went over the hill with them. We

817
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: watched him. Just isn't it? Is that the first location

818
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: in a second location? Second?

819
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: Okay, that's right, because I came in but the buck

820
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: just stood up and then slaid back down. He was slick, right,

821
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: he was slick. I once was I think calling in

822
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: a coups deer by doing some rattling, and I had

823
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: a buck coming around this basin and I'm pretty sure

824
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: he was coming to me. He's looking predetermined. And then

825
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: on the same track, I could see a kayak going

826
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: the other direction, and when they met, that kind.

827
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: Of blew that whole deal.

828
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: But I would say for me, cows cattle, like you know,

829
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: as an elk hunting guy, you're you're up on the

830
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: forest a lot and there's you know, you're sort of

831
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: at the tail end of the grazing season up there

832
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: in the first couple of weeks of archery season. This

833
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: is in Colorado in September, and like never fail, like like,

834
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: oh there's a bugle, let's go, And all of a

835
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: sudden're like, oh my god, we got to go through

836
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: fifty cows to get there, and like there's no way

837
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna do that being sneaky, like you're gonna bump

838
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: one if it's in the dark. Then they all run

839
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: off and then guess what, there's no more bugling after

840
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: the whole herd of Herford's right.

841
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

842
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 3: We had Derek pop in and say that cattle has

843
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: ruined multiple turkey hunts.

844
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like deer will ruin a deer hunt a lot.

845
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, too many elk run and elk on. I've had

846
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 4: wolves howl in September, bugle and elk and then pack

847
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 4: of wolves start howling and then it's over. Try a

848
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 4: different spot after that.

849
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: I've had I had a late season cow tag one

850
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: time back in Colorado and like had this herd like

851
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: freaking dialed man or snow on the ground. Everything was

852
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: lined up just right. Went back the next day and

853
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: the lion had killed one. Heard's gone. Yeah.

854
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. We have Ryan saying fall season seasonal allergies screw

855
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: up the most funds for him.

856
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't get fall, I get spring.

857
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big one for me, Kay says kids

858
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 3: on four wheelers. Our our producer Jake in the chat

859
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: said that that his kids too. Yeah, the biggest, biggest nuisance.

860
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 2: Cool.

861
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: I think we're good for now, but if you have

862
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: any more questions, we'll do this one more time at

863
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: the end of the show.

864
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: Thanks for the questions, everybody, All right, Next we are

865
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: interviewing Ashley Morgan Olvera who is the research and education

866
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: director at the Texas Invasive Species Institute. Ashley works on

867
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: invasive species concerns associated with hogs, carp doves, and aquatic

868
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: pill Yeah, excuse me, and aquatic plants. Ashley, welcome to

869
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: the show.

870
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 9: Thank you.

871
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 6: Hey.

872
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I do a real proper description

873
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: of your job. Can you give me like a nice

874
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: detailed layman's overview of what you do?

875
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 10: I mean, I kind of liked it. Yeah, So I

876
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 10: do research and education. I basically I talk about invasive species.

877
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 9: I live and breathe invasive species.

878
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 10: So we do a lot of grant work for usdaa

879
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 10: FHIST to look for newly emerging ones. We do a

880
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 10: lot of community outreach, and then things like this, you know,

881
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 10: like I was mentioning to you yesterday, it's like I

882
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 10: will talk about invasives at any point in time, just

883
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 10: to kind of get everybody more comfortable with that term

884
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 10: and aware with what invasive species are.

885
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: All right, since you just mentioned that that it's sort

886
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: of like a term you're still trying to get people

887
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: comfortable with. It's probably not really comfortable so much as

888
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: it is just aware of because you're telling me yesterday

889
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: that the federal government didn't even really recognize that term

890
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: up until how many years ago as.

891
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 10: Nineteen ninety nine, you know, President Clinton had to issue

892
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 10: an executive order that finally defined.

893
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 9: What an invasive species is.

894
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 10: So people often make exotic ornamental weed, they'll use those

895
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 10: words instead of invasive. But invasive is like a very

896
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 10: special subset, So it's often an invasive. It's often a

897
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 10: species that's not native to the environment that it's in

898
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 10: and it causes harm. So that's where something can become

899
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 10: invasive because you might have exotic animals that have been

900
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 10: imported for hunting purposes and such, and so maybe their

901
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 10: populations are maintained and so that's going to just be

902
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 10: an exotic animal. But like down in Texas, you know,

903
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 10: people were importing things like access deer. The deer got

904
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 10: out and now we have an invasive problem with them

905
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 10: because they are outside of their normal area and they're

906
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 10: causing harm by competing with the native species. So it's

907
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 10: that harm factor that really is what makes the species invasive.

908
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Ashley, you came across our radar because producer

909
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: Jake Birch found an article about the invasive hammerhead worm,

910
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: which is a nasty looking creature. Tell me what's up

911
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: with the hammerhead worms and what we need to do

912
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: about them.

913
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, so, as I was mentioning yesterday, Yeah, that's kind

914
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 10: of like our little poster child right now. It's just

915
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 10: a really unique looking organism that catches a lot of

916
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 10: people's attention, and it's what helps me start that conversation

917
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 10: on invasive species. So this one, it's a predator of earthworms,

918
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 10: so that's why we call it invasive. So this is

919
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 10: one of those species. It's actually been in the United

920
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 10: States for over one hundred years. It was brought in

921
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 10: when people were moving plants and it got out of

922
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 10: greenhouses because it can crawl and stick to just about anything.

923
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 10: And then it's really in the past twenty years that

924
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 10: we started realizing, wait a minute, it's eating our earthworms.

925
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 9: This is a problem. It's causing harm.

926
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 10: So really in just like the last twenty years have

927
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 10: we started calling it invasive and realizing like what it is.

928
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 9: And that's some of.

929
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 10: The stuff too, is realizing just because something's been here

930
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 10: for a long time doesn't mean that it's it's a

931
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 10: good thing. So that one definitely catches a lot of attention,

932
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 10: but it's mainly a threat to earthworms.

933
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: Okay, do you know does it use that little hammer head?

934
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: Like what does the hammerhead part of that worm do?

935
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: Do you know specifically if that the shape of the

936
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: body sort of like helps it in its day to

937
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: day so it.

938
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 10: Doesn't have eyes, and that head is basically full of receptors,

939
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 10: So yeah, they will use that head to kind of

940
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 10: survey for their their sniffing for their worms.

941
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: I see, I see.

942
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: But like so, but it's been also in the news,

943
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: not just because it's a nasty looking critter, but because

944
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: it's got neurotoxins on it, right, that can actually be

945
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, would you call it harmful to humans or.

946
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 9: I'd see more annoying.

947
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 10: So that's always part of my PSA with this thing too,

948
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 10: because humans here neurotoxin and they're instantly thinking, oh, it

949
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 10: affects us, right, because humans are very human centered, and

950
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 10: the thing is that neurotoxin is to digest earthworms. So

951
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 10: for us, it could cause a very mild allergic reaction,

952
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 10: you know, like maybe if you encounter poison ivy or

953
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 10: it can lead to kind of a more severe but

954
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 10: I've talked to thousands of people. I've only maybe known

955
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 10: about ten that have had any sort of slight itch

956
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 10: on their hands.

957
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 9: So overall we recommend don't touch them with.

958
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 10: Your hands, but we do want you to remove them

959
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 10: and kill them if you see them.

960
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: Okay, how should someone kill one? Because I heard you

961
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: don't want to just cut them in half?

962
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 9: Correct?

963
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 10: Yes, they're flatworms, so they'll regenerate. You cut them in half,

964
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 10: they suddenly become two worms. You got twice as many problems.

965
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 10: So they're soft body organisms. They're susceptible to a ton

966
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 10: of household products, so you can spray vinegar on them,

967
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 10: poor salt on them, or you can move them with

968
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 10: a gloved hand, stick them in a sealed container and

969
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 10: throw them away. You know, I've had people say, oh,

970
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 10: they're susceptible to blow torches. I say, well, I'm susceptible

971
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 10: to a blow torch like fire does work as well.

972
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a twelve gage shotgun would work too, All right, it.

973
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 9: Would, but that's the way sammo. Yeah, a few inches?

974
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: Good point. All right.

975
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a great segue to take

976
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: us to the to the earthworm conversation, because I recently

977
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: found out through the habitat work that I'm doing in

978
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: Wisconsin that not only are earthworms not native, but that

979
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: they can be invasive. So tell us how earthworms impact

980
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: our landscape.

981
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 10: Yes, so that's something that I also was learning a

982
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 10: few years as well too. So it's just really important

983
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 10: for everybody to remember that earthworms in general, your European earthworms,

984
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 10: those red wigglers that you use in your gardens, your

985
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 10: compost piles, even as bait, they are not native to

986
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 10: the United States. They were brought over by the colonists

987
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 10: because the colonists said, hey, this is great in our garden.

988
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 10: We're starting a new colony, like, let's bring our life

989
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 10: with us. And so earthworms are very good at nutrient

990
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 10: cycling and that's why we keep them in our gardens,

991
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 10: and they're really good in our agricultural fields.

992
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 9: But the thing is.

993
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 10: North American forests, prairies, all of our natural landscapes, they

994
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 10: have adapted to not have any kind of earthworm. They

995
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 10: don't need things milling about breaking down the leaf litter.

996
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 10: They need the leaf litter to stay there on the ground.

997
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 10: So even if a European earthworm, right, are our nice

998
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 10: little air raiding one. If that gets thrown into a

999
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 10: forested area, it can start removing all that leaf litter

1000
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 10: and it starts exposing tree roots and all of this.

1001
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 10: So it's really important that earthworms, who kind of view

1002
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 10: is more naturalized like a honeybee, that they.

1003
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 9: Actually do cause problems.

1004
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 10: So it's really important that, especially when you're done fishing,

1005
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 10: please don't dump any worms in the lake. Yes, in

1006
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 10: theory most of them drown, but it just takes a

1007
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 10: couple of them to make it to the shore and

1008
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 10: start over, and then they're inhabiting a natural area that

1009
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 10: genuinely does not need them.

1010
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: Did you know that, Corey, No, no clue. That's why

1011
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: I fly fish.

1012
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 10: And so what's been really not fun in all this

1013
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 10: is we've realized there's an invasive earthworm out there. It's

1014
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 10: called the Asian jumping worm. It's often sold as an

1015
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 10: Alabama jumper snake worms things like that. It is not

1016
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 10: from Alabama, it is not native, and this one is

1017
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 10: not even a nutrient cycler, so it doesn't even do

1018
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 10: the good stuff that the other earthworms do. So that's

1019
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 10: other Asian jumping worm is just flat out invasive. And

1020
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 10: so that's one that we really need people to just

1021
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 10: be aware of you know, talk to I've talked to

1022
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 10: bait shops around here. You know, they say they've called

1023
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 10: and I've appreciated it. They say, well, I've heard about

1024
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 10: these jumping worms. Should I be breeding them? I said, please, don't,

1025
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 10: please don't. They say, well, what about you know, red wigglers. Yeah,

1026
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 10: of course, African nightcrawlers. I say, not a problem. Those

1027
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 10: are exotic species, they are not invasive. They still provide

1028
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 10: a good benefit. But again, it's just important to be

1029
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 10: careful with any worm. But yeah, those Asian jumping worms,

1030
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 10: they flail around. They look like little baby snakes. It's

1031
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 10: kind of like you'll look at a worm and you'll say,

1032
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 10: this is not like any worm I've ever seen. It's

1033
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 10: not you know, it's not floppy. It flails around.

1034
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 9: Like a snake.

1035
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 10: And then it also just completely degrades the soil. It

1036
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 10: causes erosion, Plants won't seed, all that kind of stuff.

1037
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: So there's more aggressive than these other earthworms that you've

1038
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 2: been talking about.

1039
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, these Asian jumping worms they're we won't even

1040
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 10: like say that they're good in one environment. They're just

1041
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 10: flat out bad, and we want them out. But the

1042
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 10: problem is they look a lot like the other earthworms,

1043
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 10: and that's why it's one of those sneaky invases where

1044
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 10: I became more aware about it five years ago. I

1045
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 10: put up something on our website two years ago, and

1046
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 10: within three months I got reports from Houston, Dallas, Austin,

1047
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 10: and I think along the coast, and it's one of

1048
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 10: those with the state this size. If you get hits

1049
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 10: that quickly, it means that the worm's probably been in

1050
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 10: our soheale for a long time. We just didn't know

1051
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 10: any better.

1052
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: M okay, I feel like we'd be remiss not to

1053
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: bring up hogs well talking to you, since you know

1054
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: that is like the poster child for invasive species, right,

1055
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: especially in Texas. So what stance does the Texas Invasive

1056
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: Species Institute take on them?

1057
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 9: Please remove them?

1058
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 10: Please remove them, So in at least in Texas, there

1059
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 10: isn't it. You don't need a permit to hunt. The

1060
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 10: state wants you to remove them. So that's kind of

1061
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 10: how we feel as well. Please remove them when you're out,

1062
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 10: when you're out hunting. If your state doesn't require any

1063
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 10: sort of permit, please please kill them. But especially for us,

1064
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 10: I get that question asked a lot like, well, what

1065
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 10: are you going to do about hogs? And I have

1066
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 10: to say, well, the conquistadors brought them over in the

1067
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 10: fifteen hundreds, so we're not going to win that war,

1068
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 10: but we can at least slow the spread, win on

1069
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 10: a local level, or at least stop it from invading

1070
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 10: every state in the United States.

1071
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: What about Ashley? What about our dad? Like I saw

1072
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: that recently Texas legalized shooting those suckers from helicopters like

1073
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: air gun and them. Do you guys do it? Like,

1074
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: are they considered an invasive species in Texas?

1075
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 10: They must be if they're well, no, if they're allowing permits.

1076
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 10: It might be one of those where they're trying to

1077
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 10: prevent it to become more problematic, like an access.

1078
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 9: To yeah, where you know it was imported.

1079
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 10: It's getting a little out of control, and so I

1080
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 10: think they're trying to cull it before it becomes just

1081
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 10: outright invasives. So that might be why they're like lifting

1082
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 10: or allowing more.

1083
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 9: Types of hunting to happen.

1084
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 10: One of those like borderline ones where it's like the

1085
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 10: state's saying, h we'll allow it for right now.

1086
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, fellas any other questions for Ashley.

1087
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: No, no, good.

1088
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for taking the time, Ashley. We really really

1089
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: appreciate it. And yeah, hopefully this helps man. Everybody dispose

1090
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: of your worms properly, watch out for them jumping ones.

1091
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 10: Yes, please, and clean, drain and dry your boats. I

1092
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 10: just want to say, you know, naturalists and outdoorsman, you're

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00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 10: kind of like our first line of defense. So it's

1094
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 10: really up to y'all to help. Just clean your equipment

1095
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 10: before you leave your site. So, but thank y'all so

1096
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 10: much for having me.

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00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, have a good day. Now on to

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00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: me eater menu.

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00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 11: He said, what's.

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00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: Nice? Phil?

1101
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, every time a week this is this a new

1102
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: segment or have we've done this one before?

1103
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: The drop is new?

1104
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: The drop is I would I need to do more

1105
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: I guess pre production on the next time I host,

1106
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: just to make sure I can get as many new

1107
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: Phil drops as possible, because that's definitely my favorite part.

1108
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

1109
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: This is the segment where we all talk about what

1110
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: we've been cooking with our wild game lately, and.

1111
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: Today it is taco themed.

1112
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: First, we're gonna start off with a PSA I recorded

1113
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: yesterday just before I bleach my hair. Hey, it's the

1114
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 2: hospitalists for meat eater, and I'm here with a hot

1115
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 2: tip slash public service announcement. This is regarding the what's

1116
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: considered the unusable or tough cuts or seeing you laced

1117
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: chunks of your wild game. Okay, like this, like shank,

1118
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: I call them shank pieces. They're actually not the shank.

1119
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: It's a little muscle next to the shank. Everybody knows

1120
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. It's just got sing you all

1121
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: laced through it. There's some neck in here, just you

1122
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, a lot of the lower

1123
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: legs in the neck is what is what gets lumped

1124
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: into this category. Okay, so think about lots of silver

1125
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: skin and stuff that you like, you don't want to

1126
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: put into the grinder. Yes, you could grinder, but do

1127
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: you really want to be chewing on all that silver

1128
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: skin while you're eating your burger? No, So instead low

1129
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: and slow, cook it low and slow. Then you'll end

1130
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 2: up with a meat that can be shredded and turn

1131
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: into tacos, burritos, pulled meat, barbecue type sandwiches. It's easy,

1132
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: and the the uh, the opportunities are analysts for what

1133
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: to do with that meat. And now you're thinking, well,

1134
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 2: what happens with all that silver skin everything in there? Okay,

1135
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: this stuff, if you go slow and low five to

1136
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: six hours, is just gonna slowly dissolve, and it's gonna

1137
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: become part of the sauce and part of the juices,

1138
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: and it's gonna give you that wonderful, silky texture that

1139
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: you're really looking for. Okay, So it's not this is

1140
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: not just like a way to use this chunk of meat.

1141
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 9: This is actually a way.

1142
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: To have some of the best wild game meals available

1143
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 2: because this silver skin, the connective tissue is gonna it's

1144
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: gonna give you a great, great palate, great flavor, it's

1145
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: gonna make it seem more moist. If you do the

1146
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: same recipe that I'm about to give you, with just

1147
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 2: whole muscle cuts out of the back leg, you're gonna

1148
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: get a much drier product that you're not gonna be

1149
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: anywhere near as happy with. Okay, so trust me, lower

1150
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: legs a lot of sinu now real quick. If you

1151
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: want to just do the simplest version of this, chunk

1152
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: it up, I've been doing like two to three inch chunks.

1153
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna.

1154
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: Brine it in a water, vinegar, and a little bit

1155
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: of salt mixture. Okay, but a half cup of vinegar

1156
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: I've probably got I don't know, two three cups of

1157
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: water in here, about five cups or five pounds of meat.

1158
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what this does, but this is

1159
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: basically how you start Beria or how you start barbericoa

1160
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: in those Mexican taco dishes. It's been working excellent for

1161
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: this stuff, so I'm just gonna brind it in here,

1162
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: but today instead of doing those fancy Mexican dishes, it's

1163
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: gonna make it so it's ready for pretty much anything.

1164
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: My plan is to do pulled meat barbecue sandwiches. If

1165
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm a brine it for thirty minutes, then without searing it,

1166
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put it into my uh gut judging

1167
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: joker right here, all of this meat, I'm gonna rinse

1168
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: it first. I'm gonna rinse my brine off. I'm gonna

1169
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: put it all in there, and then I'm gonna cover

1170
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: it with some kind of stock, chicken stock, beef.

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00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 12: Stock, whatever, just barely cover it, put a lid on it,

1172
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 12: and in my oven at two sixty for probably five

1173
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 12: to six hours until it's fork tender.

1174
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 9: So you can pull it apart with pull it apart

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00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 9: with a fork.

1176
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: And then take it off. At that point when it cools,

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00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: I'll put it out on a sheep pan. I'll pick it.

1178
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: If there are any of the bigger chunks of sing

1179
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: you silver skin whatever, left, pull those out. There won't

1180
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: be many. I'm gonna put it back in there with

1181
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: the juices, and then the world is your oyster brcue, sauce, salsas.

1182
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: Whatever you do as you please. You're going to be

1183
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: extremely happy with the results. Okay, so use your lower

1184
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: leg meat, cook it loan slow. You'll find that you'll

1185
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: be reaching for that more than you're reaching for a

1186
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: lot of the whole muscle cuts at your wild game.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.

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00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: Nice tip.

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00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: Be honest, what do you boys think about that?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good segue into what I'm going

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00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: to talk about. Okay, you don't You don't have anything

1192
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: to add there?

1193
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: He covered it all, sure, hope, So I felt pretty thorough.

1194
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 4: I was distracted because the chat was so worried about

1195
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 4: your missing drawer. It looked like right below your sink

1196
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 4: short cut.

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00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: I can give you a quick explanation of that. That's funny.

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00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: I'll actually love it. It's the best thing that's ever happened.

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Speaker 2: In the kind of a weird way. We're in a

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00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: you know, a kitchen remodel is probably gonna take fifteen

1201
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: to twenty years. But we put a new sink in,

1202
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: and the meta measurements were off to the point where

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01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: that drawer could not be in there anymore when the

1204
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: sink was in there, right, But the sink was more

1205
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: important than the drawer. Well, what's underneath that missing drawer

1206
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: is the trash can. Perfect, And so it's pretty much

1207
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: like being at a McDonald's where you don't have to

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01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: open the trash can slider every time you just want

1209
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: to drop something in there. Now, if you got something

1210
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: big and messy, yeah you got to open the trash can.

1211
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: But if it's just like a you know, you blow

1212
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: your nose clean, nex just right through the hole, plops

1213
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: right in. So when I complete this whole remodel, and

1214
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: there's maybe some new cabinets, I'm going to incorporate that,

1215
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: I'll probably have the little swinging door, you know, not

1216
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: just a whole I have a little swinging door. But yeah,

1217
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: it's awesome. I hate dealing with trash cans. I love

1218
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: having them hidden away, tucked away.

1219
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't like one in the middle of the kitchen

1220
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: and where it's just always I don't know.

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01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 3: Shout out to Leland for solving the mystery before you

1222
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 3: announced that was that was his theory.

1223
01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: Good work, Leland.

1224
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 4: AnyWho.

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01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, going back to Giannis's video, all that everything

1226
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: he said applies to wild turkey legs and wings, which is, uh, Phil,

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01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: you got teed up there. Uh so we're talking tacos.

1228
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: So the other day I made tacos out of turkey thighs, drums, wings, Like,

1229
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: save your turkey wings. I know it's a pain get

1230
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: those wings off of a gobbler, but it's worth it.

1231
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: There's enough meat there to make it worth it. So

1232
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: I cooked those things the exact same way you, honest

1233
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: does just described with that shank and shoulder and other

1234
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: tough leg deer cuts. And then what you do is you, uh,

1235
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: you shred it up and then you gotta gotta crisp

1236
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: it up. And like I've crisped this stuff up a

1237
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: couple of different ways. You can do it in a

1238
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: cast iron pan. You can put it under a broiler,

1239
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: which is I think Steve likes to do it. But

1240
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: this time I got a I got one of those

1241
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: big blackstone suckers for Christmas, and I did like a

1242
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: big flat top grill. Yeah yeah, and uh I did

1243
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: it on there and the and it worked. It was

1244
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: so much, it just was it worked great.

1245
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 9: Man.

1246
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 2: What kind of grease did jeez?

1247
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: Uh, there's a little olive oil, and I did a

1248
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: mix of olive oil and I think canola. But I'm

1249
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: not like attacking. It was super high heat, so I

1250
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: try to do olive oil. It's got a low smoke point,

1251
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 1: you know, so you can't get after it too hard.

1252
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: But either way, the great thing about that big outdoor

1253
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: griddle is I was able to cook the tortillas while

1254
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: I was cooking the meat, and so that made that

1255
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: made it nice. I'm not dirtying up a bunch of

1256
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: pots and pans and those things like we eat them

1257
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: more like a like a Mexican street taco, real simple cilantro,

1258
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: a little chopped onion, queso fresco. Like, don't be putting

1259
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: American taco cheese on there, don't be dumping half a

1260
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: bottle of paste salcea on there. Like keep it simple

1261
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: and they're very very very very good, just awesome stuff.

1262
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing if you do the meat right. How

1263
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: well a taco can taste when it's just tortilla meat,

1264
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: fresh onions and usually white. Yeah, more of that bite

1265
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: and cilantro. It's really all you need. Even that the

1266
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 2: kotilla or the caeso fresco is like, you know, it's nice,

1267
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: but you don't definitely don't have.

1268
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: To have a living and you can put a little

1269
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: like spicy hot sauce on there maybe if you want

1270
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: a little heat, but yeah, I'm not a fan of

1271
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: drowning it and red red salsa.

1272
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: Corey, what about.

1273
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 4: You, man, I've been eating a lot of black Bear recently.

1274
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 4: Last night actually made some black Bear smash burger talk,

1275
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 4: So talk about tell me more bringing the world together

1276
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 4: with tacos and burgers.

1277
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, very international meal.

1278
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 3: Interesting.

1279
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, the photo didn't turn out great, but yeah, it's

1280
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 4: a taco shell and a smash burger. Everybody knows how

1281
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 4: to make smash burgers these days. These are not homemade shells.

1282
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 4: But I did fry on myself to get them nice

1283
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 4: and perfectly crispy and folded them.

1284
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: So We started with a corn corn a corn just tortilla.

1285
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 4: Yep, corn tortilla, and then I did cook half of

1286
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 4: it in oil, frieday in oil, whatever, and then I

1287
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 4: smashed the burger, flipped it over being BlackBerry. I really

1288
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure it was cooked, which doesn't take

1289
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 4: long with a smash burger style. And then I took

1290
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 4: that half cooked tortilla, put the uncooked side on the outside,

1291
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 4: gave it a flip, put some cheese on it, so you're.

1292
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: You're like burger smashing the tortilla on there.

1293
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 4: That's typically that's how I would do it. I did

1294
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 4: it separate this time, but yeah, I think that's the

1295
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 4: kind of classic way to do it, is smash it

1296
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 4: with the tortilla. But then you're only cooking one half

1297
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 4: of the burger. So I did the burger and then

1298
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 4: flipped it and then tortilla on top, just to make

1299
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 4: sure it was fully cooked. And then I put a

1300
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 4: little bit of a garden fresh romaine lettuce on there,

1301
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 4: garden tomatoes, and then that was my kid's meal there.

1302
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 4: He wanted some taco sauce on it. Normally i'd make

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01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 4: like a fancy sauce as Will Ferrell put it uh

1304
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 4: ketchup in mayonnaise with a little dill sauce in there.

1305
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 4: But so it's you get that burger bite, but it's

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01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 4: in a taco shell. Johanni, I think I made some

1307
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 4: for you when we were out pronghorn hunting a couple

1308
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 4: of years ago. You did you me and Max Barta.

1309
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 4: They must not have been that memorable.

1310
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: You made burger tacos.

1311
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 4: Smash burger tacos. I think that was with some elk,

1312
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 4: but you must have been tired.

1313
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: I got a question for you. When you do ground

1314
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: bear meat, do you add any fat?

1315
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: I do you do?

1316
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 4: Not not as much as uh deer elk, but definitely

1317
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 4: threw in some pork fat, just.

1318
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: A little bit.

1319
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because I haven't ground mine yet, and I'm

1320
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: wondering what about you.

1321
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: You've had some bears? You ever ground your bear meat? Yeah?

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01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: If I'm making sausage or whatever, I'm gonna add a

1323
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: little bit. What about this regular old ground? I don't

1324
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: think I made any other last bear I shot. I

1325
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: think I did all sausage because like when you handle

1326
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: the meat, like my hands get greasy's fat in there. Yeah,

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01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, like if I need to do it,

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01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: but I still think you're missing like like if you

1329
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: were to slice a bear's th like thigh muscle, you know,

1330
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: down the middle like crosswise is there? Like are you

1331
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: seeing like internal fat in there? You know what I mean?

1332
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 4: A little bit not not.

1333
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: Like I said, I feel like you can feel it

1334
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: more than you can see it. Do the outside do

1335
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: a few pounds one way and yeah.

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did it, and it just cooked so much better.

1337
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 4: You know, there's a there's just a little bit more

1338
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 4: fat to cook it.

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01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: I will say I recently did the ground just because

1340
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 2: of the way that the portions ended up that I

1341
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 2: had maybe five pounds left of deer meat and I

1342
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: didn't have any fat to mix into it. I was

1343
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: making meatballs and then the leftovers. I was like, well,

1344
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna freeze this ground, but I didn't have

1345
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: any fat for it. So I just did it just

1346
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: plain deer meat, and it's been fine. I've been just

1347
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: salt and pepper and making patties and the burger's been

1348
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: coming out just fine.

1349
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can add an egg to it if you're

1350
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 4: really worried about it.

1351
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I guess a little more feedback Phil.

1352
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, last call for questions. We're a little light right now,

1353
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 3: and I get we get questions like this a lot,

1354
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 3: almost every week, and I normally don't pick them because

1355
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 3: it's kind of a big topic. But everyone has their

1356
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 3: own opinion on it, so I'm going to bring it

1357
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: up now. It's kind of a big general question. But

1358
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: Ethan Blair, realtor and auctioneer, he's just a Swiss Army knife,

1359
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: this guy. He says, we're wanting to experience hunting out

1360
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 3: West next year. We're focused on elk but opened to

1361
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 3: other big game. What would you recommend for prep and

1362
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 3: would you go DIY or hire an outfitter first trip?

1363
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm assuming sounds like it.

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01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: Yep. If you can afford an outfitter, it's not a

1365
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: bad way to go.

1366
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, take a lot of guesswork out of it, that's

1367
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 4: my answer to I'd hire a.

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01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: Guide, especially if it's going to be like a one

1369
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: and done thing. But if you're like, oh, we're gonna

1370
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: start doing this and make an annual tradition and I've

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01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: got like the next ten years, like I'm going to

1372
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 2: become an elk hunter, Yeah, you know, go di IY.

1373
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: And you can kind of do a combo. You could

1374
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: do an outfit or drop hunt where they're going to

1375
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: pack you into a decent area, help you pack all

1376
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: your stuff in, pack all your stuff out. But you're

1377
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: out there hunting on your own. Do your homework, man,

1378
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: call a lot of referrals, you know, if you're looking

1379
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: at the outfitter thing, other preparation.

1380
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. Go back to listen to earlier in

1381
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 2: the show.

1382
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, get in shape and shape and shoot your gun

1383
01:08:59,000 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: or your bow.

1384
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 3: That's right, Nathan. I've been seeing this question for weeks.

1385
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 3: I don't pick it because I have no effing idea.

1386
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 3: I'm not a part of these conversations. This is about

1387
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 3: the first light waiters. When will they be available. I'll

1388
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 3: try to get some info for you and update, but

1389
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm not the guy to come to this.

1390
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone anyone at the tailor. Yeah,

1391
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 3: I didn't think so, how about you.

1392
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 4: I have the power of knowing this right in front

1393
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 4: of me. Actually, I saw these come up earlier. There

1394
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 4: was a whole chat about waiters that look like, yeah,

1395
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 4: I have this, I have the date right in front

1396
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 4: of me. But just the way things have been going

1397
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 4: with the waiters, I will say very soon, yeah, and

1398
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 4: leave it at that.

1399
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: That's a great global economy kind of thing.

1400
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but very very soon they're like in stock ready

1401
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 4: to roll.

1402
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 3: So yes, would you believe that this tariff stuff has

1403
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 3: affected us in some way?

1404
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1405
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 4: No, get excited though.

1406
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 3: They're badass cool. Well great, I'm glad I brought it

1407
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 3: up because I normally just skip right right past those ones.

1408
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 3: Let's see Tea pats Field once again asks a snack

1409
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 3: in the stand.

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01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 4: Mmmmm hmmm, jerky.

1411
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: I like, I mean, if I really just had to

1412
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: pick one go to from the last five years of

1413
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: deer hunting in Wisconsin, it would be my liver worst

1414
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: and butter sandwiches on Latvian rye bread. Now, all of

1415
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: you can probably get your hands off some good liver worst,

1416
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: but that Latvian rye bread is a little harder.

1417
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: It's not a snack, though, man it.

1418
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 4: Might be, but that's a meal.

1419
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: Come on, a snack.

1420
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: I think when they're asking about snack in the stand,

1421
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: it's like anything that's gonna sustain you as you're going

1422
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 2: throughout the day. And but I do eat a multiple

1423
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: of those. I'll usually and I pack up breakfast sandwich

1424
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 2: in there too.

1425
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: There you go.

1426
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: I've gone to not eating really breakfast before hunts and

1427
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: really just packing in food that I will as soon

1428
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: as I'm set, whether I'm glassing or I finally get

1429
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 2: in the stand, I'm gonna start eating at that point.

1430
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 2: There's no reason to waste the time at whatever four

1431
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 2: in the morning putting down food.

1432
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I agree, there, I eat all kinds.

1433
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I eat all kinds of yeah.

1434
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 4: Man.

1435
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: The thing with us, Patsfield is that we get to

1436
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:18,839
Speaker 2: hunt so much that all snacks still, All snacks get

1437
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 2: old after a while. You got to keep it fresh man.

1438
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: Variety is the spice of life. Yeah man. So I'll

1439
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: switch up the candies. I'll switch up the bars, chocolates

1440
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 2: sometimes I don't know.

1441
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's why I say jerky. There's a million flavors

1442
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 4: you can toss in your jerky, and every bite reminds

1443
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 4: you why you're out there. There you go, meat?

1444
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: What else?

1445
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 3: Phil Janni, you're your new hairstyle inspired Chase to do

1446
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 3: some freestyle rap in the live chat, and he's he's

1447
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 3: asking me to recite it a Chase, I'm not going

1448
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: to do it. Dry right now, Because you know rap cadences,

1449
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 3: they require a little bit of practice. You gotta, you

1450
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 3: gotta really dig in. If I have time, I'll go

1451
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 3: back and read them and see if I can prepare something.

1452
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: But no promises whatsoever. Well I'm excited, Phil, Oh, great,

1453
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 3: now I have to do it. Russell says, day Alaska

1454
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 3: moose hunt. This is September. Have two rifles in the safe,

1455
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 3: three hundred weather be mag and a three thirty eight

1456
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: Win mag. Your choice of these two?

1457
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, which one you shoot better?

1458
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 4: They're both gonna whack them.

1459
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Both those calibers are.

1460
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: Gonna do just fine if you can shoot them.

1461
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: If you can shoot them, if you can shoot a

1462
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: two seventy Winchester, better shoot take that.

1463
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, make sure you got a good bullet.

1464
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,839
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like throw any bullet companies or bullet

1465
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 2: models under the bus here, but both those calibers with

1466
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 2: a cheap bullet might not do the job.

1467
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: So make sure you got a.

1468
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: Good bullet that's gonna stick to stay together and really

1469
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: hammer them.

1470
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 4: Amen.

1471
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 3: Uh, James, I don't know this for sure, but just

1472
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 3: as someone who has done TV stuff, he asked, why

1473
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 3: does Meat Eaters still make episodes twenty two minutes long

1474
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 3: when they are probably primarily a streaming show. Well, the

1475
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 3: keyword there is primarily, because sometimes we make deals with

1476
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 3: TV networks in twenty two minutes is still the standard

1477
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 3: length for a half hour episode of TV. But that's

1478
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 3: why we make so much other programming on our YouTube

1479
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 3: channels that don't have to play within time constraints. So

1480
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 3: check those out. But but yeah, that's that's the answer. Yeah, Phil,

1481
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 3: let's see. I think I think that's good. I think

1482
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 3: we're good.

1483
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think we can go through the entire

1484
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 4: show without bringing up Tony Hawk pro Skater three plus four.

1485
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 2: Phil, Oh, yeah, what did you decide? Are you gonna

1486
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: play it?

1487
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 3: We can't play it for licensing reasons, but my wife

1488
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 3: and kids are out of town, and I made an

1489
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 3: Instagram reel that I had some fun with, So if

1490
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 3: you want to.

1491
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: It's really good.

1492
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 3: I watch it if you want to check that out,

1493
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 3: Phil Taylor twenty five on the old Instagram. It was fun.

1494
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 2: Let me ask a good question. What the thing that

1495
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 2: caught my eye the little Easter ray was that when

1496
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: you grab the skateboard, the truck was loose.

1497
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,839
Speaker 3: I have not nobody has touched that skateboard.

1498
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: Okay.

1499
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: We inherited it from my brother in law and it's

1500
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 3: been a collecting dust in the garage.

1501
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: Okay.

1502
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 2: But so you didn't set that up like it was.

1503
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 2: The truck was also was.

1504
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 3: Already yeah, the truck, but the truck was already basically

1505
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 3: falling off.

1506
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

1507
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: So it was like it was just waiting for you

1508
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: to make this.

1509
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: It was waiting for me.

1510
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. And there's another Easter egg that the skateboard is

1511
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 3: themed as well, So go back and past it and see.

1512
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,839
Speaker 4: Better go again, just coming from the skater boy haircut

1513
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 4: over here.

1514
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, no, that got me a little nostalgic too.

1515
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I wish I had a skateboard

1516
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: kicking around, although my place there was no place to

1517
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 2: ride it.

1518
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: No, it's all.

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Speaker 2: Gravel, which is a bit of a bummer. But all right,

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Speaker 2: thank you all for watching today. If you're looking for

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Speaker 2: some new swag, Meeter's got some new hats out, especially

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Speaker 2: like this new one from Wired to Hunt. It's pretty

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Speaker 2: hip in my opinion, go check them out at the

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Speaker 2: Meat Eater store. You know where to find that. And again,

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Speaker 2: thank you for watching and listening this week, and we'll

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Speaker 2: be back next week.

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Speaker 1: There's day eleven am Mountain Standard Time audios