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Speaker 3: In today's episode, we are gonna be talking about the
Speaker 3: Apple TV Plus series murder Bot, which is rather charming
Speaker 3: but bust. We are gonna talk about the most anticipated
Speaker 3: TV series of the summer and how we are feeling
Speaker 3: about them.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Okay, television ever heard of it?
Speaker 1: Ever heard of it? Peak TV? Listen. We might be
Speaker 1: towards the end, if not at the end of the
Speaker 1: peak TV era, transitioning to a different era. What that
Speaker 1: era will be remains to be seen. But stress tag,
Speaker 1: lots of stress TV TEVE, lots of great TV coming
Speaker 1: down the pipe, lots of TV has just left us.
Speaker 1: We're going to be rating our excitement levels for some
Speaker 1: upcoming television properties, as well as talking about some of
Speaker 1: our personal favorites that maybe don't fit into the cookie
Speaker 1: cutter or a general frame of nerd stuff. But first,
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the TV that we've just
Speaker 1: finished watching that led us to this season, that has
Speaker 1: led us to this moment of twenty twenty five upcoming television.
Speaker 1: Let's start with andor, which is great. Guys, it's hey,
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, it's I think we're both in agreement that
Speaker 1: this is some of the best Star Wars we've ever seen.
Speaker 1: No Ques, do you think it enters the conversation of
Speaker 1: like all time great television? Would you put it in
Speaker 1: that conversation?
Speaker 3: I think as a whole series, season one, season two together.
Speaker 3: I think you could hand that off and recommend that
Speaker 3: to most TV viewers who are not necessarily into specifically
Speaker 3: sci fi or star wars and say to them, Hey,
Speaker 3: do you like sopranos, Do you like mad Men? Do
Speaker 3: you like stories that are about like one person in
Speaker 3: an unusual situation that you will, you know, follow them
Speaker 3: on this journey? And do you like political thrillers? Do
Speaker 3: you like sixties French cinema? I think that you could
Speaker 3: sell it as a great example of prestige TV. I
Speaker 3: think it's a little bit of a harder sell because
Speaker 3: for some people they feel like Star Wars is homework.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like and or makes you do that.
Speaker 3: And I do think it can. I do think it
Speaker 3: will continue to be in the conversations of the best
Speaker 3: TV shows ever made.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you listen, Star Wars nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: seven is a New Hope. Is a movie that I
Speaker 1: feel like, legitimately everyone has seen. I think we all
Speaker 1: assume that people have seen Star Wars.
Speaker 2: And I think to talk about.
Speaker 1: And I think if you've only seen nineteen seventy seven's
Speaker 1: a New Hope, or you know the updated the various
Speaker 1: updated versions, then I think you can go into and
Speaker 1: or knowing pretty much all you need to know. But
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think that it's I don't
Speaker 1: think it's like a best TV ever conversation show, but
Speaker 1: I think it's in that second tier of shows where
Speaker 1: it's an excellent show, like a really excellent show that
Speaker 1: has a chance to meet a wider audience. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think if you put this in
Speaker 1: front of somebody who's only who only knows Star Wars
Speaker 1: or even the original trilogy, they'd be like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: this is really good, much in the same way that
Speaker 1: The Penguin is a show that you don't have to
Speaker 1: be a Batman Family great show to love truly.
Speaker 3: I do think as well that there's an interesting this
Speaker 3: is the kind of interesting crossover point that we're in
Speaker 3: now where a lot of the greatest TV shows of
Speaker 3: all time that you'd see on your Rolling Stone list
Speaker 3: or your Vultualist have for a long time not necessarily
Speaker 3: been adapting another IP or expanding it. But we are
Speaker 3: now in a situation where a lot of the TV
Speaker 3: where the money is going is coming from adapting or
Speaker 3: expanding a IP world like comic books or Star Wars
Speaker 3: or something like that. So I also think that that
Speaker 3: is a shift. Do people want to be in these
Speaker 3: worlds or do people want you know, original TV like
Speaker 3: Mad Men, like The Sopranos that kind of expand on
Speaker 3: a world in a different way, because you know, nowadays,
Speaker 3: if they made the Sopranos, it would be a Godfather
Speaker 3: spin off, which we actually did get, but it was
Speaker 3: about to make of Godfather. So I think that is
Speaker 3: an interesting cultural crossroads that we're at and I think
Speaker 3: for some people it works, for some people it doesn't.
Speaker 3: But I do think that and Or is one of
Speaker 3: the best examples of a show like that that we have,
Speaker 3: and I think it will end up in that If
Speaker 3: you're doing one hundred best TV shows of all time,
Speaker 3: I think the next I think it's going to be
Speaker 3: in that top fifty at the higher end.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because I'm a big like
Speaker 1: format and structuring nerd in terms of how we make
Speaker 1: these decisions, how do you classify a show like and Or,
Speaker 1: or even The Penguin that is more of a limited
Speaker 1: It's different than Breaking Bad, which was an ongoing show.
Speaker 1: It's different than Game of Rounds was an ongoing show.
Speaker 1: It's more like Chernobyl in that it was a limited series.
Speaker 1: So how do you do you judge something like and
Speaker 1: Or The Penguin differently? Do you put it in a
Speaker 1: different category?
Speaker 3: I think that is a conversation that we're going to
Speaker 3: have to keep having. And I do think that the
Speaker 3: fact that award shows already specify and award those shows
Speaker 3: differently hints that structurally there is something there. But I
Speaker 3: would also say I do think that it serves those
Speaker 3: shows well, because say something like The Penguin, where we
Speaker 3: will likely never get a second season and instead we
Speaker 3: will get other spinoffs. That is basically a perfect season,
Speaker 3: Like they don't really make any mistakes. Emotionally, we might
Speaker 3: have disagreed with some of the choices they make, but
Speaker 3: then something like Game of Thrones you have to take
Speaker 3: into consideration the entirety of the show, and then your
Speaker 3: odds and the kind of consistency of the show, it
Speaker 3: becomes more questionable. So I think that there is an
Speaker 3: interesting conversation, and I think that in the era that
Speaker 3: we're in now, I wouldn't be surprised if we start
Speaker 3: seeing those lists where it's like best fifty mini series
Speaker 3: of all time, you know, best limited series.
Speaker 1: Ye Rosie off the Dome, your top four television shows
Speaker 1: all time, best hour long prestige TV top four. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't mean it, Okay, I would mind fucking boring as shit.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like in no order, here's the ones
Speaker 1: I watch all the time exactly that. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like Succession, dead Wood. Oh, I love that show, Breaking Bad,
Speaker 1: you know The Wire. That's a very very boring list.
Speaker 3: I think, No, no, no, I think that's really good. I'm
Speaker 3: definitely I would agree with you. I'm coming in with
Speaker 3: the Wire is there. I love that show so much.
Speaker 3: I can go back and rewatch any episodes. I love
Speaker 3: to tell people to rewatch it.
Speaker 1: I think it is what a mad Men also on
Speaker 1: the list, I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will add for me, I think Better Cool
Speaker 3: Soul is on there. I think that show is like unbelievable,
Speaker 3: and I think it shouldn't be good and it's great.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's so much bad than it should It's
Speaker 3: got unblievable cast.
Speaker 1: I also Hannibal is on there.
Speaker 3: For me, I think it's kind of unbelievable that that
Speaker 3: show was made for broadcast TV. And I will say
Speaker 3: that I do have a newer addition that I think
Speaker 3: in the future will kind of looked back on as
Speaker 3: like a contemporary X Files. I'm putting Evil on there.
Speaker 3: I think the show is like so fucking good, and
Speaker 3: if you watch it from the beginning, you get from
Speaker 3: the beginning to the end of that first to the
Speaker 3: four seasons that they made. It is such a satisfying show.
Speaker 3: It has a puzzle box mystery that gets solved, it
Speaker 3: has humor, it has horror. It has like devastating emotional
Speaker 3: lows and incredible emotional highs. The cast is funny, it's
Speaker 3: super weird, and it's kind of I think in that
Speaker 3: Hannibal Slash X Files space, where like it shouldn't have
Speaker 3: been able to have a crossover like it did, but
Speaker 3: it did. And if CBS had not moved it to
Speaker 3: their streaming channel because they wanted to add more people there,
Speaker 3: it would have continued to be the biggest show on
Speaker 3: network television, which is what the first season was. And
Speaker 3: also I think this doesn't even touch on another conversation,
Speaker 3: which is like streaming, because like some people their favorite
Speaker 3: show ever is Queen's Gambit, you know, And I think,
Speaker 3: like for me, if we're talking about and this is
Speaker 3: kind of recency bias, but like currently I love House
Speaker 3: of the Dragons so much that that might be like
Speaker 3: edging out Game of Thrones for me, Like there's so
Speaker 3: many different conversations to be had, and also what then
Speaker 3: do you do about show like House of the Dragon
Speaker 3: which doesn't exist without Game of Thrones?
Speaker 1: So can it really be the better show?
Speaker 3: But I love the version of it that they did,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I think it's very interesting because Also, we
Speaker 3: are in an era of high quality, highs capacity, Like
Speaker 3: there's a lot of TV coming out, a lot of
Speaker 3: content like for example, Severance.
Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people, it's in the
Speaker 2: top ten right now, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that it I think it's it's revitalized the
Speaker 1: puzzle box genre, which I think was kind of moribund recently,
Speaker 1: or at least a lot it.
Speaker 3: Had been struggling to contain a lot of small season Yes,
Speaker 3: it was certainly a lot smaller.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like there's been other shows like Dark
Speaker 1: for instance, that have gone there.
Speaker 3: Yellow Jackets, but also like didn't necessarily deliver or have
Speaker 3: the same reach.
Speaker 1: Severance has a I mean, it captured the zeitgeist in
Speaker 1: a way that we haven't seen a show do in
Speaker 1: a while, and it did it pretty organically.
Speaker 2: It's a huge hit too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a huge hit on a you know, shouts
Speaker 1: to them, they're spending oodles and oodles of money. But
Speaker 1: really in the in the landscape, a minor streamer, like,
Speaker 1: not a big platform. So one of the coolest things
Speaker 1: to watch happened. It was the rise in sudden popular
Speaker 1: of Severance in the way it took over the conversation
Speaker 1: is unique. We haven't seen shit like that a little while.
Speaker 3: And also I'm very interested because I can't wait in
Speaker 3: five years, you know, when I'm brewing, We'll all still be.
Speaker 1: Here, guys.
Speaker 3: But like, does Severance still have that emotional connection to people?
Speaker 2: Do people still see it as one of the best
Speaker 2: shows of all time? Or was it like uniquely.
Speaker 3: Perfectly made for this moment when everyone's feeling isolated, when
Speaker 3: everyone's feeling the pressures of capitalism. Like, I'm very interested
Speaker 3: to kind of see how that goes. But it is
Speaker 3: interesting to compare something like Severance, which has these two
Speaker 3: really solid seasons that are very very you know, feels
Speaker 3: very consistent, feels like quality wise. By the end of it,
Speaker 3: most people were feeling like, yeah, this is like I'm
Speaker 3: still in Let's go then to something like Last of Us,
Speaker 3: where we had first season generally seen as one of
Speaker 3: I would say, like one of the best TV shows
Speaker 3: over the last ten years. Season two definitely more in consistent,
Speaker 3: definitely kind of I would say, there is a lot
Speaker 3: of annoying this course about it that we've kind of
Speaker 3: tried to not even take into consideration, but there's also
Speaker 3: a lot of real conversation.
Speaker 1: About the way it is and isn't working for people.
Speaker 1: The thing that's fascinating to me about the second season
Speaker 1: of The Last of Us is this is unquestionably like, objectively,
Speaker 1: this show is good. It's well made, it's well written,
Speaker 1: it's well acted, great great costs. But I also think
Speaker 1: to your point, almost everyone you talk to about it
Speaker 1: has some level of critique about yeah, the length, the pacing,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And I think that leads to
Speaker 1: an overall feeling of a show that is was panned
Speaker 1: more than it really was. Like, again, this is a
Speaker 1: very good show.
Speaker 3: It's the you've set the bar so high for the
Speaker 3: first season that it's kind of hard to follow it up.
Speaker 1: It's the it's the.
Speaker 3: Iconic kind of idea of a sophomore slamp or the
Speaker 3: fear of adapting.
Speaker 2: I also think for our.
Speaker 3: Next TV episode, because I'm realizing we have so many
Speaker 3: great things to talk about here.
Speaker 1: You both watched we watch too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm also thinking like about the fact that
Speaker 3: there is an interesting argument about the time that we
Speaker 3: are in right now, where fifteen years ago, if you
Speaker 3: made like a perfect first season of TV, they.
Speaker 1: Might just leave it.
Speaker 2: They might just be like, guys, you adapted the game.
Speaker 1: The game was a massive hit. They might not immediately
Speaker 1: be like.
Speaker 2: When is season two? When's the adaptation of the game.
Speaker 3: And I think that because of the nature of the
Speaker 3: way that corporations see R and TV and films and
Speaker 3: everything under this kind of broad banner of like content,
Speaker 3: that can sometimes push out these ideas and force a
Speaker 3: quicker turnaround or a turnaround at all. And I think
Speaker 3: there's an interesting conversation to talk about there as well,
Speaker 3: because I also am a fan of like again another
Speaker 3: thing that we could definitely put us it's own segment.
Speaker 3: But I love like a perfect season of TV, just
Speaker 3: one who doesn't know the Watchmen.
Speaker 4: Like, uh, that's one of the biggest the BBC Office,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, the BBC Office when it like, I
Speaker 4: agree with you, Watchman is another one perfect season of television.
Speaker 1: Don't do anything else. Those two for me are like,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember when I first you know on
Speaker 1: BBC America watch the original BBC Office. I was like, wow, Well.
Speaker 3: Also in England, we didn't know any of the people
Speaker 3: when it came out, even Rickey Gerbay's was not known,
Speaker 3: so like it had that great pre internet early Internet
Speaker 3: kind of Blair Witch almost feeling of like is it real?
Speaker 1: Like is this could this guy be that person? You know?
Speaker 3: And I love like a perfect one season of TV
Speaker 3: and like, you know, Freaks and Geeks.
Speaker 2: That's another one where I'm just like, I.
Speaker 3: Love that show hy Fidelity. I fucking love that show
Speaker 3: with Zoe Kravitz. I'm like, Hulu, actually, please do bring
Speaker 3: that one back, like I've been asking for a long time.
Speaker 3: But I think it's interesting because I will tell you
Speaker 3: a show for me that if it didn't have another
Speaker 3: season that just came out. I think what I would
Speaker 3: say is a perfect TV season of TV is The
Speaker 3: Studio and they already announced season two, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: maybe don't do it, guys, Like this.
Speaker 1: Is so perfect. Folks, if you have not watched The Studio,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't have Apple TV. Plus, we've talked about
Speaker 1: how easy it is to get up, very easy. You
Speaker 1: can get it for free right now, right now. The
Speaker 1: subscriptions are falling off the back of trucks christ like
Speaker 1: old school newspaper delivery. It is. It was such a
Speaker 1: wonderful joy in my weekly television watching schedule. It had
Speaker 1: been a little while since I had a show that
Speaker 1: hit that sweet spot for me where I know I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be stressed. Yeah, then a real in a
Speaker 1: significant way watching I was gonna enjoy it and I
Speaker 1: was gonna uh laugh and see things that I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna see anywhere else. And the studio is like that
Speaker 1: for me. I at first, I was worried. You know,
Speaker 1: we live in la we know. You know, I just
Speaker 1: had a conversation with our mutual friend Kenny, who is
Speaker 1: you know, a former agent of the businesses like I can't.
Speaker 1: I was talking to him yesterday and he's like Jason,
Speaker 1: everybody in the studio, those are like real people. That's
Speaker 1: what these conversations were us. I was worried, like it
Speaker 1: was going to be too niche. It's it's just so
Speaker 1: much fun, and it's fun in a curb your enthusiasm
Speaker 1: way where you're watching a guy and a bunch of
Speaker 1: people just like step On Rakes in the most entertaining way.
Speaker 1: It doesn't take itself too seriously, which I think is necessary.
Speaker 1: And it's got some of the greatest cameos maybe in
Speaker 1: the history of television already.
Speaker 3: Just the first episode. If you watch that and you
Speaker 3: see who the big cameo is, who is part of
Speaker 3: the major plotline of the show. You will go, oh,
Speaker 3: I understand, like this is a different level of there
Speaker 3: is a conversation clearly that was had when they were
Speaker 3: making this show.
Speaker 2: This is Rosie's fan pic.
Speaker 3: But my general idea, I know people who've sold shows,
Speaker 3: I know people who have bought shows. I feel like
Speaker 3: this script was probably going around with you know then
Speaker 3: that made by Seth Rogan, and I feel like everyone's
Speaker 3: agent was probably hearing about the show and being like,
Speaker 3: this is the show you want to get your person into.
Speaker 3: Because the car, the cameos are amazing. The writing is
Speaker 3: so good, it's so funny. It is definitely very relatable
Speaker 3: if you are in LA, but if you're not, it
Speaker 3: basically is all your expectations of how you think LA is.
Speaker 3: So I like that it appeals to people there in
Speaker 3: a way that feels recognizable.
Speaker 2: Our Discord loves it. It is so funny.
Speaker 3: And the way that they build in unbelievable cinematography. Every
Speaker 3: single shot in the show is a wanner. And there
Speaker 3: is an episode where the whole episode is Wona and
Speaker 3: it's called the Wanner and it's about them trying to
Speaker 3: make a wanna in a film on the same day.
Speaker 2: It's some of the most.
Speaker 3: Technically incredible TV making that you will ever see.
Speaker 1: And it's also a lot of.
Speaker 3: It is done very simply, which I love. I just
Speaker 3: I was blown away by it. I thought that the
Speaker 3: final two episodes where they go to cinema kon to bond,
Speaker 3: it's some of the funniest shit you've ever seen.
Speaker 2: And it's also like Babylon and it's like cub your.
Speaker 3: Enthusiasm and it's just so funny, and the costing is incredible,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I think that.
Speaker 2: To me, I would be like, never do a second season.
Speaker 1: But if you can keep up that quality, please do
Speaker 1: it well, please do it. They are keep proved it,
Speaker 1: it's happening. Keep throwing money. It's it's good creators, creators
Speaker 1: like like Rogan, who I think will go down. We've
Speaker 1: talked about it before, but it's underrated. Actually, the project,
Speaker 1: the amount of pressure. Okay, do you have any with
Speaker 1: fames that maybe don't fit into like any of the
Speaker 1: easy boxes stuff that you've can watch it.
Speaker 3: The really we touched about, We touched on it, We
Speaker 3: talked about it before the pit I think again That's
Speaker 3: another show where it's like perfectly mas stress stress that. Honestly,
Speaker 3: there's episodes of the Studio where I was stressed, but
Speaker 3: only because I'd been on set.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please don't do this.
Speaker 1: I mean. The Pit is a show that we had
Speaker 1: a rule in the household that like, it's you can't
Speaker 1: watch it in the hour before bed.
Speaker 3: No, it's you can't, it's.
Speaker 1: The sunlight has to still be in the sky. One
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten to talk about a.
Speaker 3: Lot that I have been loving and hopefully we'll be
Speaker 3: doing some cool stuff with then they lead up to
Speaker 3: San Diego Comic Con, and stuff is Sakamoto Days, which
Speaker 3: is a Netflix anime about an assassin who falls in
Speaker 3: love and then becomes like a chubby seven eleven like
Speaker 3: convenience store owner. It's like a food anime. It's an
Speaker 3: action anime. The manga is really good, and I just
Speaker 3: think it's so much fun. Everyone I've recommended it to
Speaker 3: has loved it, and I think that that it will
Speaker 3: end up on a few of the best of lists
Speaker 3: at the end of the year. How about you, Is
Speaker 3: there any shows we haven't talked about that you've really
Speaker 3: loved this year?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a big fan of For me TV,
Speaker 1: everything doesn't need to be the best thing ever. I
Speaker 1: like I like a I like a well made, watchable
Speaker 1: show with people I like in it. I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: Your Friends and Neighbors. It's very much it's very much
Speaker 1: TV plus Apple TV plus. It's very where Jon Hamm
Speaker 1: seems to live now. Uh you know, catch him on
Speaker 1: The Morning Show and other crazy soapy But Your Friends
Speaker 1: and Neighbors is like a very elevated soap with a
Speaker 1: hard crime twist towards the end. John ham is wonderful
Speaker 1: playing with your preconceived notions of him through Madmen and
Speaker 1: as a pitchman for luxury items like his work with Mercedes,
Speaker 1: And he's playing with all those those things, and the
Speaker 1: show is playing with those things too, I think wonderful effect.
Speaker 1: It's just like a very watchable.
Speaker 3: I love a good well one of the most. I'm
Speaker 3: a big rewatcher. That's the funniest thing about me doing
Speaker 3: this job. That's why my first answer to best TV
Speaker 3: show was fucking Colombo or Annibal, shows that have not
Speaker 3: been on air for like twenty years at this point.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I love that pick. I think it's great.
Speaker 3: I'm a big.
Speaker 2: I think it fits into that kind of like it's
Speaker 2: not cozy crime, but it's not.
Speaker 1: Stressed t TV.
Speaker 3: If you can enjoy being in this fancy, rich people world,
Speaker 3: but there's a twist to it that you wouldn't necessarily expect.
Speaker 1: It's like more engaging and smarter than second screen level viewing,
Speaker 1: but it's not like challenging you in the way that like,
Speaker 1: you know, a succession or a really high you know,
Speaker 1: like a high level hour long drama. Is this is
Speaker 1: streaming's version of an ABC show on a like Thursday
Speaker 1: night or yeah, yeah, exactly, and it's honestly, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 3: Again, that great cast, great money from Apple is paying
Speaker 3: for a quality level that we weren't always getting, and
Speaker 3: I thought that one was really fun.
Speaker 2: Our Discord also big fan of that show.
Speaker 3: Also, there's tons of great shows on Netflix that fit
Speaker 3: into that that are kind of like British crime adaptations
Speaker 3: that they bring over or co productions between the BBC
Speaker 3: and Netflix where they exist not on Netflix in England,
Speaker 3: and then they exist things like you know Bodyguard that
Speaker 3: was an older one.
Speaker 2: But I thought that was really really good.
Speaker 3: I recently watched a great British Oh Obviously we talked
Speaker 3: about adolescents that is stressed to TV. But what I
Speaker 3: have been really enjoying is they have been doing co
Speaker 3: productions with the BBC that are Harlan Coben, the mystery author.
Speaker 3: They have been adapting his books into mini series and
Speaker 3: there was a great one I watched called for Me Once,
Speaker 3: another one called Missing You, and one called Safe and
Speaker 3: those are very much in that kind of space of
Speaker 3: like it's gonna hook you, You're gonna want to watch it,
Speaker 3: but it's not gonna challenge you like Succession the wit
Speaker 3: and banter is not necessarily gonna be that dense, but
Speaker 3: you're still gonna be really engaged. And I think that
Speaker 3: is one of the things I do love about the
Speaker 3: way streaming is right now is we are getting access.
Speaker 2: To more TV from around the world, more different.
Speaker 3: Kinds of TV, these sub genres and spaces that we
Speaker 3: would align stuff as happened to us when we were
Speaker 3: talking about our favorite TV of the year. It's kind
Speaker 3: of consistently fracturing and growing as like a web. So
Speaker 3: there's just so many kind of great shows that you
Speaker 3: can just put on. But honestly, the show I watch
Speaker 3: most of just murder, she wrote, which is like the funny,
Speaker 3: but she is so good. It looks good. It's funny,
Speaker 3: it's not Colombo. I will get too hooked. I can't
Speaker 3: have that on while I work. Murder, she wrote, I
Speaker 3: know what Jessica's doing, going somewhere being nosy, causing some murders.
Speaker 1: It looks good.
Speaker 3: She's wearing a cool jumper. I can work while I
Speaker 3: do it. But even Colombo like it's too eye quality.
Speaker 1: I can't put it.
Speaker 3: On while I work because you just start watching it
Speaker 3: like to engage.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a quick break and we'll come back
Speaker 1: and talk about our the upcoming shows that we're excited about,
Speaker 1: which we will rank out of five remote controls. And
Speaker 1: we're right. Okay, let's start rankings for upcoming television shows.
Speaker 1: One remote control being completely lacking in any kind of
Speaker 1: excitement for us. We are not reaching for that remote control.
Speaker 1: Five remote controls being the maximum excitement. You were going
Speaker 1: to have to hold me back to keep me from
Speaker 1: that remote.
Speaker 3: Every single you got the remote for the good speakers,
Speaker 3: you got the remote. You got all five remotes that
Speaker 3: you go to because you want to add the best quality.
Speaker 1: Let's start with The Gilded Age Season three of Max HBO.
Speaker 1: Max's show set in late eighteen hundreds New York during
Speaker 1: the actual historical Gilded Age, when capitalism is booming, the
Speaker 1: late Industrial ages booming, and massive amounts of money are
Speaker 1: pouring into New York City and there are legitimately no
Speaker 1: laws these people, Yes, what is that culture like? Starring
Speaker 1: Kerrie Coon, Mortgan Spector, Luisa Jacobson, Christiansky, The Wonderful Christine Baranski.
Speaker 1: Season three coming up soon. Following the crescendo of the
Speaker 1: Opera War Ins the season two finale, the old guard
Speaker 1: of old money New Yorkers, like Christine Baranski's Agnes van
Speaker 1: Rin and Donna Murphy's Missus Astor, has been weakened, and
Speaker 1: the Russells carry Coons in Domino, Bertha and Morgan, Spectors,
Speaker 1: Stowett George standpoise to take their place at the top
Speaker 1: of society. You're ranking solid.
Speaker 3: This is a solid three out of five for me,
Speaker 3: not because for me, not because I don't really enjoy
Speaker 3: the show, which I do, But like we said, we're
Speaker 3: in so many great there, We're in an era of
Speaker 3: so much great TV that this is like definitely in
Speaker 3: the middle. But The quality is great if you really
Speaker 3: enjoyed Netflix's Bridgeton, but you want a version that is
Speaker 3: more steeped in like a real historical era and has
Speaker 3: a little bit more to say, but it's still really
Speaker 3: soapy and doesn't have as much anachronistic like musical choices
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. This is a great next step
Speaker 3: post Bridgington. Not that romance based, but there are little
Speaker 3: bits of romance. The thing I'm actually most excited about
Speaker 3: with this is very underrated actor who is a hilarious,
Speaker 3: hilarious comedic star of the MCU, Leslie Ugghams, who plays
Speaker 3: Deadpool's blind best friend and roommate blind Out. She is
Speaker 3: coming in as like a friend of Felicia Richard's character,
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Kirklin. She's gonna be called missus Ernestine Brown. I
Speaker 3: am so interested to see her playlist because I think
Speaker 3: she is a I don't think those dead Pool movies
Speaker 3: are as popular without her because she's so good. She's
Speaker 3: so funny, she drops some of the most outrageous lines,
Speaker 3: and I really want to see her in this kind
Speaker 3: of prestige TV period peace World, and obviously, who doesn't
Speaker 3: love Felicia Richard. I want her to have a new friend.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm interested. I mean, what a cast.
Speaker 1: And I would say.
Speaker 3: Also that you know what this is great for if
Speaker 3: you have like your mom over or your parents over the.
Speaker 1: Family members, this is a great.
Speaker 3: We should watch this while we you know, snack or
Speaker 3: wait to go out or whatever, you want to watch
Speaker 3: something in the evening. This is a great family acceptable
Speaker 3: TV watch.
Speaker 1: I am also going to go with three out of
Speaker 1: five I agree with you. This is my mom loves things,
Speaker 1: in her words, that are real stories, which by which
Speaker 1: she means, you know, set in an actual historical period
Speaker 1: that aren't things like bridgershin Or They're great, which are
Speaker 1: kind of only softly set in those esthetically modern set
Speaker 1: in those periods, but with a lot of more kind
Speaker 1: of modern speech and production kind of approaches. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: this is a very soapy show, but wonderfully so. And
Speaker 1: I've just started season one about halfway through, and I'm
Speaker 1: enjoying it. It's a great show to have on and
Speaker 1: it's really well done. I'm going to put it at
Speaker 1: three remote controls up next June twenty fourth on Disney Plus.
Speaker 1: Iron Heart, the somewhat surprisingly dropping on us in only
Speaker 1: a few weeks. Iron Heart, set after the events of
Speaker 1: Black Panther were kind of forever, Marvel Television's Iron Heart
Speaker 1: pits technology against magic when Rary Williams played by Dominic Thorne,
Speaker 1: a young genius inventor determined to make her mark on
Speaker 1: the world, returns to her hometown of Chicago. Her unique
Speaker 1: take on building iron suits is brilliant, but in pursuit
Speaker 1: of hair ambitions, she finds herself wrapped up with the
Speaker 1: mysterious yet charming Parkerk Robbins Ak eight The Hood played
Speaker 1: by Tomy Ramos. Your remote control rating, I'm giving it
Speaker 1: a four, hoping.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that it could be a hopeful, hopeful for
Speaker 3: We had a great chat with Sam Bailey, one of
Speaker 3: the directors. I felt like she was just very much
Speaker 3: on our level, enjoyed the same things that we love
Speaker 3: about this Ebewing obviously a friend of the pod. We
Speaker 3: think she's amazing, definitely very heavily influent on this show
Speaker 3: and her run of the comics are I'm interested to
Speaker 3: see this version of the Hood played by Anthony Raymos, Like,
Speaker 3: are they really bringing magic in?
Speaker 2: Is it going to be more that he uses Teka's magic?
Speaker 3: Kind of like we saw with Mysterio in the Sony
Speaker 3: Spider Man movies. I think there's a lot here that
Speaker 3: could be really interesting. It's promising to be a little
Speaker 3: bit darker. It's promising to be a little bit more
Speaker 3: of that kind of you know, teen to early twenties
Speaker 3: coming of age, which has been a big critique of
Speaker 3: the MCU with characters like America Chavez. Yeah, making them
Speaker 3: a little bit younger, giving them that more classic coming
Speaker 3: of age. It's gonna be interesting and nice to maybe
Speaker 3: see a little bit of that messiness. And also, if
Speaker 3: it's done well, could set us up for where we
Speaker 3: could see I think that the Tom Holland Spider Man
Speaker 3: now living on his own in his own apartment in
Speaker 3: his early twenties, we are going to get more of
Speaker 3: that messy kind of young adulthood in the MCU going forward.
Speaker 3: So I think this could be a great spot. I
Speaker 3: think to Dominique Thorn is amazing. I think she absolutely
Speaker 3: deserves this show.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm giving it. I'm giving it a solid
Speaker 1: four because I'm.
Speaker 3: Feeling hopeful and I really do love the character of
Speaker 3: Iron Hawk.
Speaker 1: I am gonna give it a solid three. I'm like
Speaker 1: you in my heart I'm a hopeful four. The rollout
Speaker 1: has me concerned. It's not that not that Disney is
Speaker 1: trying to necessarily bury the show, but theyre appear to
Speaker 1: be throwing it out there, kind of like saying, hey, fight,
Speaker 1: good luck, and I hope you find your audience, but
Speaker 1: we're not gonna throw a bunch of stuff behind this.
Speaker 1: So that could either mean that A one, they're trying
Speaker 1: to avoid all conversations about it. I think that. I
Speaker 1: think they're trying to avoid early conversations about it, and
Speaker 1: that either means they are not proud of it or
Speaker 1: they just don't want to deal with the conversations around it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a three, but I'm a
Speaker 1: hopeful four in my heart. Let me quick stop. I
Speaker 1: realized I should have been reading these the little synopsies,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna read this and put this in my
Speaker 1: preamble before Rosie starts talking. All right. Up next June
Speaker 1: twenty fifth, on Hulu, it's season four of The Bear.
Speaker 1: How are they making it so quickly? I gotta say,
Speaker 1: it feels to me. I was about to say, it
Speaker 1: feels like The Bear is legitimately always on television. Here's
Speaker 1: the synopsis. With new challenges around every corner, the team
Speaker 1: must adapt, adjust, and overcome. Yes, Yes, this season the
Speaker 1: pursuit of excellence is it just about getting better, It's
Speaker 1: about deciding what's worth holding on to. Rosie your excitement
Speaker 1: level for season four The Bear.
Speaker 2: Okay, so my honest ANSA is a two and a half.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm pushing it to a three because I
Speaker 3: love this cost.
Speaker 2: I love these characters. I love spending time with them.
Speaker 3: This is very peak stressed these TV for me, because
Speaker 3: I did used to walk in fancy restaurants and as
Speaker 3: a waita and and it sucks. And this the first
Speaker 3: season of this show, I think is a masterpiece.
Speaker 1: I think it.
Speaker 3: Sums up a lot of the realities and feelings of
Speaker 3: working in an environment like that. But I also loved
Speaker 3: seeing them as like a working class kind of kitchen,
Speaker 3: and a kitchen where Kami was more learning about like
Speaker 3: the importance of being a good member of the team.
Speaker 3: I find this stuff a little bit harder now that
Speaker 3: they're moving into making you know this fancier restaurant and stuff,
Speaker 3: but I will still be watching. I think the cost
Speaker 3: is great. I think they're probably gonna win a ton
Speaker 3: more Emmys, and I'm excited to see where this goes.
Speaker 3: And I hope we get more time just with the
Speaker 3: crew and the kitchen together. That's what I missed from
Speaker 3: season three.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it too remote. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: It's a very high quality, well acted, well written. It
Speaker 1: has a kind of panache about the way it moves
Speaker 1: through its various episodes. Lets you know that this is
Speaker 1: a very confident production team that knows they're doing something great.
Speaker 1: That said, for me, season three was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a downer season. It lost some of the propulsion
Speaker 1: perhaps in success as they've opened the restaurant. And also
Speaker 1: it does feel to me, maybe you know what, I think,
Speaker 1: we've been Last of Us and House of the Dragon
Speaker 1: peeled with some of the weight times for seasons, so
Speaker 1: that it genuinely feels shocking that the Bear just is
Speaker 1: pumping out seasons that come out on time. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why.
Speaker 3: I think that's why for some folks, some just average
Speaker 3: TV watches, this is one of the best shows on
Speaker 3: TV because they don't have to wait two years.
Speaker 2: And then like rewatch the show to understand it.
Speaker 1: Or like Severns. So I don't want to ding it
Speaker 1: fully for that, but I will admit that I am
Speaker 1: feeling a little bit bit of Bear fatigue.
Speaker 2: Jason said, take longer to make the show, don't just.
Speaker 1: It is like you want to talk about stress teage.
Speaker 1: This is a stress teuge show. On occasion, not every episode.
Speaker 3: Fast episode of this is one of the most stressful
Speaker 3: episodes you will ever watch.
Speaker 1: If you've watched in a restaurant, but there are stress
Speaker 1: I would say anywhere from twenty to sixty percent of
Speaker 1: the episodes in any given season of The Bear are
Speaker 1: extremely stressful. I'm I'm looking at you. The the Family Dinner
Speaker 1: episode of The Bear, the cameo Layden Family Dinner episode
Speaker 1: of The Bear that is just like goes from a
Speaker 1: like an eleven on the anxiety scale and then reaches
Speaker 1: like a twenty by the time the episode is on verifying.
Speaker 1: Up next, Squid Game talk about pumping them out and
Speaker 1: coming out the times. Squid Games season three, June twenty
Speaker 1: seventh on Netflix. Here's the snops, picking up from season two,
Speaker 1: devis stating Cliffhanger. Season three throw us geehun back into
Speaker 1: the brutal heart of the Games, determined to dismantle them
Speaker 1: once and for all. Still haunted by the betrayal and
Speaker 1: loss of his closest ally, gehun faces new perils, including
Speaker 1: the front Man, who shockingly infiltrated the rebellion disguise as
Speaker 1: player double O one.
Speaker 3: Yes, I am gonna say, guys, cheeky, I think to
Speaker 3: promote this on having a cliffhanger when it was just
Speaker 3: clearly that this is one season split into two. But
Speaker 3: you know what, good for them? Everyone loves Squid Games.
Speaker 3: Was season two as good as squ season one? No,
Speaker 3: because once again, you can't capture lightning in a battle
Speaker 3: in that way. I do like these characters though, I
Speaker 3: do like this world. I love a dystopian story. It's
Speaker 3: a solid three for me. I'm hoping they're gonna do
Speaker 3: something that's gonna surprise me, but this currently I've got
Speaker 3: my three remotes out of five for Squid Games season three.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it two and a half remotes. I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I it's interesting for show that is really
Speaker 1: so full of twists and surprises that you don't feel surprised. Yes,
Speaker 1: and because so many of those twists feel like they
Speaker 1: are in service of keeping our hero from really making
Speaker 1: any headway. And bringing down this criminal empire that said,
Speaker 1: or capitalist criminal empire that said. I love closure. I'm
Speaker 1: a return of the Jedi person for that reason. So
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I'll bump it up to three
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bump it up to three remotes because I'm
Speaker 1: hopeful that we get some yes up next. Listen, we
Speaker 1: both love a serial killer. We do. We saw a problem.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Dexter resurrection. You want to talk about resurrections.
Speaker 1: How many time can this show get resurrected? Dude?
Speaker 3: Dexter's Jason Boys at this point July eleventh on the
Speaker 3: Belagered Showtime and Paramount Networks. So Beliegue, good showtime is so,
Speaker 3: belieguod Man, have a showtime.
Speaker 1: I mean right now. And we could talk later about
Speaker 1: the the true beleagueredness of Paramount, which is trying to
Speaker 1: go through a sale but is being actively extorted by
Speaker 1: the President of the United States. Anyway, here's the synopsis.
Speaker 1: Weeks after Dexter takes a bullet to the chest from
Speaker 1: his own son, he who awakens for COVID to find
Speaker 1: Harrison played by Jack Alcott, gone without a trace. Realizing
Speaker 1: the weight of what he put his son through, Dexter
Speaker 1: sets out for New York City, determined to find him
Speaker 1: and make things right, but closure won't come easily. When
Speaker 1: Angel arrives with questions, Dexter realizes his past is catching
Speaker 1: up with him fast and just gonna sprinkle a little
Speaker 1: spice on this for your future ratings formulation, Rosie, We're
Speaker 1: introduced to a band of serial killers seemingly recruited by
Speaker 1: Peter Dinklich's new character, Leon Prater, a billionaire venture capitalist.
Speaker 3: Well, guess what I have to tell you something, guys.
Speaker 3: This is how much of a sucker I am for
Speaker 3: like a wild serial killer thing. This is like a
Speaker 3: first paragraph, solid one. It's a solid one star. Like
Speaker 3: I'm not that interested about it. I'm gonna give I'm
Speaker 3: gonna pick up my remote. I'll give it a try.
Speaker 3: I have watched all of the original season. I did
Speaker 3: watch the last reboot.
Speaker 2: Season, So look, am I gonna watch it?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Yes, But but I will tell you that.
Speaker 3: Goes up to a solid three remote when we're talking
Speaker 3: about a band of interesting serial killers recruited by Peter
Speaker 3: Dinklitch who is a billionaire like one of my favorite
Speaker 3: on the three season shows of all time, that I
Speaker 3: think does not get enough love. Is this really weird
Speaker 3: Kevin Bacon show called The Following, which is about Kevin
Speaker 3: Bacon and his nemesis. And his nemesis is a professor
Speaker 3: of get Alan Poe and he does murders in Edgar
Speaker 3: Allan Poe themed style. But then when he is jailed
Speaker 3: and all of this happens in like the first five
Speaker 3: minutes of the first episode.
Speaker 2: When he is jailed, he manages to use.
Speaker 3: The Internet to create a cult of serial killers who
Speaker 3: then start doing like outrageous serial killings on his behalf.
Speaker 3: It's so good, it's so trashy, it's so enjoyable, and
Speaker 3: this is giving that energy. So I'm going for a three.
Speaker 3: I want to see Peter Dinklage. I want to see
Speaker 3: these serial killers better have inventive, weird vibes, like I
Speaker 3: want to see something strange, and I want to know obviously,
Speaker 3: like I'm guessing Dexter and his son are gonna have
Speaker 3: to team up to take down these serial killers.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a three and a half
Speaker 1: for the same reason as you. This band of this
Speaker 1: super serial killer team recruited by Sounds Greater Dnkledge that said,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a three and a half remotes with
Speaker 1: a quick off trigger. I'm gonna give it. I'm very
Speaker 1: excited for this first episode July eleventh on the Bleaker
Speaker 1: Showtime Paramount. But if it doesn't do it for me,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go to the Backe introduced Leon straight away,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to. I don't care about that
Speaker 1: strain of son.
Speaker 3: I need to be pinkadic glitch at his serial killer Avengas.
Speaker 1: Up next Season three of Foundation on Apple TV plus
Speaker 1: full Disclosure. I am the official podcast the first two
Speaker 1: the official Foundation pod on it. Yes. Here is the synopsis.
Speaker 1: The Foundation has become increasingly established, far beyond its humble beginnings,
Speaker 1: while the Kleonic Dynasties Empire has dwindled. As both of
Speaker 1: these galactic powers forge an uneasy alliance, a threat to
Speaker 1: the entire galaxy appears in the fearsome form of a
Speaker 1: warlord known as the Mule, which readers of the Foundation
Speaker 1: book series will recognize. Your remote contul writing.
Speaker 3: This is one of the most insane ambitious TV shows
Speaker 3: on TV. It's based on unfinished works. This, by the way,
Speaker 3: Season three is going to be one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: two years after season two, which is one of my
Speaker 3: favorite things about this show.
Speaker 1: Also, I lovely.
Speaker 3: Pace, and this year they are adding Troy kotzew Oscar
Speaker 3: Winner deaf Oscar Winner, who I love. So I'm very
Speaker 3: excited to see how that we often don't get like
Speaker 3: deafness and disability in futuristic shows, whether dystopian or utopian.
Speaker 3: So I'm interested to see how they play that. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna give it a solid four because I do think
Speaker 3: that we need to support weird TV shows and this
Speaker 3: is one of the weirdest. And if you want to
Speaker 3: know where Apple TV Plus is throwing lots of money,
Speaker 3: it is at this show right and it is a
Speaker 3: crazy sci fi escapade.
Speaker 1: For remotes for me, listen. If you love sci fi,
Speaker 1: you're probably a lover of sci fi. If you're listening
Speaker 1: to this podcast, you should be watching a foundation because
Speaker 1: it's great. It's great sci fi.
Speaker 3: It has weird sci fi that we don't really get anymore.
Speaker 3: And also our listeners love sci fi. We know that
Speaker 3: you guys have told us, so give this a chance.
Speaker 3: If you're looking for that sci fi that isn't Star Wars,
Speaker 3: that sci fi that maybe you haven't heard of that
Speaker 3: sci fi that maybe you read part of when you
Speaker 3: were a kid but never checked back in on that's
Speaker 3: foundation and I'm very interested to see what season happens
Speaker 3: with Season three.
Speaker 1: As Abu says in the chat, one of the most
Speaker 1: visually stunning shows and recenters. It looks like a million zero.
Speaker 1: It looks like a movie. Every door level like looks great.
Speaker 3: It's also if you're in that Prestige TV mindset of
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones, if you want to see people fucking
Speaker 3: and killing and fighting.
Speaker 1: Against baby fucking baby fucking, and they also be fighting,
Speaker 1: sometimes at the same time, sometimes at the same time.
Speaker 3: So I'm saying, just like, give it a try, and
Speaker 3: I'm very excited to see where it goes next.
Speaker 1: Up next, Oh, on disney Pluse, the Disney Pluse Network.
Speaker 1: Eyes of Wakanda August six. Wow. There is no true synopsis,
Speaker 1: but here is storyboard artist Todd Harris quote. The story
Speaker 1: starts off during the end of the Western Bronze Age. Oh,
Speaker 1: and that sparks off this giant spy espionage story that
Speaker 1: roberates through time. You get Wakanda grade James Bond and
Speaker 1: sometimes a James Bond with the backdrop of all the
Speaker 1: awesomeness that is Wakanda. Sounds good, Rosie your remote control rating.
Speaker 3: I'm giving it three and a half with a hopeful
Speaker 3: four because I do no you know what, I'm going
Speaker 3: to reframe this because this is not about how good
Speaker 3: I think the show is going to be. This is
Speaker 3: a Black Panther animated series that is produced by Ryan Coogla,
Speaker 3: and that at d twenty three revealed a very key
Speaker 3: connection spoiler mfs on if you don't want it that
Speaker 3: will probably get an imfist in this show that will
Speaker 3: probably kind of see different warriors from around the world.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing this is maybe gonna lean into the cosmic side.
Speaker 3: So actually, my true, my true excitement as somebody who
Speaker 3: grew up with this stuff, there are a five star
Speaker 3: excitement for me. I'm giving it five remotes of excitement
Speaker 3: because it's an animated Black Panther show produced by Ryan Coogler.
Speaker 2: Look are we in MCU fatigue?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: But is Black Panther one of the coolest characters ever made?
Speaker 2: Is Wakanda one of the best worlds that Jack Kirby
Speaker 2: ever visualized.
Speaker 3: Is Black Panther still a character no matter who is
Speaker 3: holding the mantle that makes people excited. So look, this
Speaker 3: is not a prediction of the quality of the show.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping for the best, but my actual excitement, Like,
Speaker 3: will I be stoked and counting down to the day
Speaker 3: that I see this?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Am I worried there isn't like a full trailer or anything. Also, Yes,
Speaker 3: but I'm letting the I'm letting the childhood excitement go.
Speaker 3: And I'm saying five remotes of excitement for me.
Speaker 1: I am a four remote until I see that trailer.
Speaker 1: Here's passed me at a solid four right now before
Speaker 1: I see the trailer. We just got done watching the
Speaker 1: second season of Andor, which is a fantastic show that
Speaker 1: builds on the early era and formation of the Rebellion
Speaker 1: and delivers that as high level espionage thrills. I think
Speaker 1: they could do the same thing with Eyes of Wakanda.
Speaker 1: You're talking about great a nation that has been secret
Speaker 1: up until you know, twenty fourteen in the fictional fictional
Speaker 1: year of twenty fourteen in the MCU something like that.
Speaker 1: And so how did they keep it secret all those years?
Speaker 1: What were the lengths they would have to go to?
Speaker 1: Where did anybody ever discover Wakanda and have to be
Speaker 1: silenced or bought off or what. I think that there
Speaker 1: is tremendous potential for this to be like an and
Speaker 1: or level of thrills in terms of a spy story
Speaker 1: built around the history of this fictional place. So I
Speaker 1: am really really excited, and I think that depending on
Speaker 1: the trailer, Yes, my excitement could go up, could rise
Speaker 1: all the way to the limit of five remotes, or
Speaker 1: even drop, which I hope doesn't happen, depending on what
Speaker 1: we see in that trailer. So I'm gonna give it
Speaker 1: a solid four right now. Trailer TVD up next August
Speaker 1: sixth on Netflix. It is season two of Wednesday starring
Speaker 1: Jenny Or starring Jenny Oega. Here is the synopsis. Wednesday
Speaker 1: Adams returns to prowl the gothic halls of Nevermore Academy.
Speaker 1: We're fresh foes and woes. Oh wait. This season, Wednesday
Speaker 1: must navigate family, friends and old adversaries, propelling her into
Speaker 1: another year of delightfully dark and cookie mayhem. Armed with
Speaker 1: her signature razor sharp wit and deadpan charm, Wednesday is
Speaker 1: also plunged into a new bone chilling supernatural mystery. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like the best season of Wednesday just fine, I think,
Speaker 3: Jen I'll take it as fantastic casting. I love Catherine
Speaker 3: Zea Jones as Mortsha, but it was very ya Netflix show.
Speaker 3: If you watch a lot of those, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I would say I would be about a
Speaker 3: two for this, though I do hope. I think I
Speaker 3: wrote an article for IGN about how I thought the
Speaker 3: first season was good, but it has the potential to
Speaker 3: be really great.
Speaker 1: If it's weirder, I hope they lean into that.
Speaker 3: But I'm pushing mine up to three remotes because they
Speaker 3: are adding this year Steve Bushemi, which I love, and
Speaker 3: apparently the rumors are that he is gonna maybe play
Speaker 3: the head teacher who was before played by our fave
Speaker 3: Gwendolyn from A Game of Ferns. But also as well,
Speaker 3: I will say that is somewhere.
Speaker 2: Where this show never fails. Like the level of casting.
Speaker 3: I mean, Louis Guzman as the patriarch of the Adams family.
Speaker 3: Gomez is like iconic casting, looks identical to the cartoon.
Speaker 1: The original cartoon.
Speaker 3: This year they're adding Oh the Wandawayne Newton as well.
Speaker 3: You may know her Sandy, but she recently introduced herself
Speaker 3: with her full name. I mean, she's amazing obviously, you
Speaker 3: know I love Mission Impossible too, so I love her.
Speaker 3: Lady Gaga is gonna be in this season, Christopher Lloyd
Speaker 3: from Back to the Future, Haley Joel Osmond from The
Speaker 3: Sixth Sense, who has had a resurgence in many comedic roles,
Speaker 3: and Heaven Matzarro from Welcome to the Doll's House. So like,
Speaker 3: the cost is giving weird. So I'm pushing up to
Speaker 3: a three from.
Speaker 2: A two where it would have been gosh.
Speaker 1: I am gonna go a two just because listen, the
Speaker 1: trailer was good that said, this is one of those
Speaker 1: shows where it's been three it's like quietly been three years.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And for some reason with this show, I'm
Speaker 1: a little I'm concerned that it took that long because
Speaker 1: it kind of feels like it.
Speaker 2: You had all the sets, you had the cattle, the sets, had.
Speaker 1: All the stuff. You know. Tim Burton obviously deeply involved,
Speaker 1: but it's not like he's doing other stuff. And so
Speaker 1: I'm a little confused, is what took so long? That said,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think that it was Tim Burton weird,
Speaker 1: which is to say, a style of weird that we've
Speaker 1: that is not that we've that we're not surprised by.
Speaker 1: I do think a little bit more weirdness would increase
Speaker 1: my excitement level bit of a solid two. But you know, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it much like Dexter Resurrection. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give it two episodes and let's see where my
Speaker 1: my excitement level goes from there. So I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: it a solitude. Let's go to a cook break and
Speaker 1: with you're at and we're back up next. Oh, folks,
Speaker 1: this might be I'm gonna make a prediction in terms
Speaker 1: of excitement level, this might be our most rolled show.
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna have the most remote controls guys.
Speaker 1: August twelfth on FX Hulu Alien Earth from You Know
Speaker 1: star showrunner Noah Hawley. Here is the synopsis. Set in
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two years before Alien and the events
Speaker 1: that befell the crew in Nostromo, Noah Hawley's Alien Earth
Speaker 1: will follow the deep research vessel USCSS Magineo after crash
Speaker 1: lands on Earth, with a young woman called Wendy played
Speaker 1: by Sidney Chandler, and a ragtag group of tactical soldiers
Speaker 1: making a quote fateful discovery that puts them face to
Speaker 1: face with the planet's greatest threat. I'm excited. I need
Speaker 1: to know nothing else.
Speaker 3: Timothy Oliphant, isn't it So I'm like, okay, that's a
Speaker 3: five anyway.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Aliens, we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna see Cymbia on Earth. It's pre Nostromo. I'm very excited.
Speaker 1: That's fascinating. And also, let's.
Speaker 3: Remember now a Holly made legion, which is like a
Speaker 3: deeply conflicted show for me, but also a fantastic fucking show,
Speaker 3: and it's in a genre space and it was totally unexpected.
Speaker 3: So I'm very ready for this to be incredible. And
Speaker 3: I am hoping that Disney, Hulu, Effects, the corporations that
Speaker 3: are putting this one throw that money out the screen.
Speaker 3: I want this shit to look like and or I
Speaker 3: want to see the xenomorph. I need to know that
Speaker 3: you have a practical xenomorph. I want to see the
Speaker 3: weird hybrid law. And obviously we're very excited to have
Speaker 3: camm And come on and explain it all to us
Speaker 3: as the alien lover that she is.
Speaker 1: It's a period piece. I think Noah Holly thrives in
Speaker 1: that kind of setting. I love his anthology work with
Speaker 1: the Fargo television series, and I am extremely curious as
Speaker 1: to how a late seventies alien television show, because you
Speaker 1: have going.
Speaker 3: To quickly make it look that way, even though at
Speaker 3: second it has to look like how we recognize the
Speaker 3: original Fantastic Yeah Alien movie.
Speaker 1: Adapting a late seventies movie set in twenty two. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see. It's gonna be the show. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give it. I'm gonna give it the full five
Speaker 1: remote control. I'm giving it five. We're giving it ten.
Speaker 1: This is all.
Speaker 2: This is all ten exciting remote controls.
Speaker 1: Up next Peacemaker Season two, August twenty first, on HBO Max.
Speaker 1: We've been waiting for this one. The official log line
Speaker 1: does not tell us much, but here it is quote.
Speaker 1: The new season follows Christopher Chris Smith aka Peacemaker, the
Speaker 1: vigilante superheroes. He struggles to reconcile his past with his
Speaker 1: new found sense of purpose while continuing to kick righteous
Speaker 1: evil do but in his misguided quest for peace at
Speaker 1: any cost. Gunn, who I'm beginning to worry is over
Speaker 1: over shaming himself. Maybe he has wrote all eight episodes
Speaker 1: of season two and is directing three. Your excitement level, Rosie,
Speaker 1: I'm giving it a three. I am.
Speaker 3: I am a lover in case you didn't know, if
Speaker 3: you've listened to the podcast, I'm a lover of the
Speaker 3: James Gun Suicide Squad movie. I think it's a masterpiece.
Speaker 3: This show, for me, did not continue the threads that
Speaker 3: I loved from that, but I do think the first
Speaker 3: season was interested in reckoning with the idea of American patriotism,
Speaker 3: with racism, with like Clan villains, like there was a
Speaker 3: lot of interesting stuff there. I think the cost is great. Obviously,
Speaker 3: John Cena is amazing in this role. I'm hoping that
Speaker 3: as the show grows in this season and we get
Speaker 3: to see you know, it's been revealed that like Guy
Speaker 3: God in Greenland and will be in here, and I'm
Speaker 3: interested to see how this connects with Superman.
Speaker 2: This is going to be our first post Superman project, so.
Speaker 1: That is pushing me.
Speaker 3: I think it's a It's an excited three with hopes
Speaker 3: for more.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm going to go excited three, but
Speaker 1: I'm equally concerned. I do think that the the inclusion
Speaker 1: of Guy Gardner tells us that we're going to be
Speaker 1: picking up I think the baton from the events of Superman,
Speaker 1: which is awesome. I am worried. Creature Commandos was fun
Speaker 1: but also felt kind of sparse, and it was really
Speaker 1: the place where I began to think, God, Gun's doing
Speaker 1: a lot, It's doing a lot, a lot, a lot,
Speaker 1: and obviously so much riding on Superman. So I do.
Speaker 1: I just hope that it leaves me feeling more full
Speaker 1: than Creature Commando's left me feeling I did. I loved
Speaker 1: season one. I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I
Speaker 1: worry that guns being yeah overstretched, so an excited and
Speaker 1: concerned three remote controls for me, but the excitement primarily
Speaker 1: comes from the fact that we're gonna be really expanding DC.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also we see you with this. Your mention
Speaker 2: of Creature Commando's did remind me.
Speaker 3: Something I really didn't like from the first season was
Speaker 3: like that we see Rick Flagg Junior get killed in
Speaker 3: Suicide Squad spoiler alert for like a five year old movie.
Speaker 3: But it is this really huge moment where he is
Speaker 3: finally choosing not to be the Patriot, and obviously it's
Speaker 3: revealed that Peacemaker was there as Amanda Wallace kind.
Speaker 1: Of fail safe.
Speaker 3: But this season we will see Frank Grio reprise his
Speaker 3: role from Creature Commandos, where he was loving to fuck
Speaker 3: and now he's come into this role and he is
Speaker 3: apparently going to be trying to like hunt down peace
Speaker 3: Maker cause he killed this son. So that's interesting to me,
Speaker 3: but again feels like a lot. Also, I do think that,
Speaker 3: you know, we talked in the discord about this, because
Speaker 3: like I do think it says a lot about the
Speaker 3: trust that Warner Brothers hasing gone that they're allowing a
Speaker 3: TV show that honestly, like five percent of the people
Speaker 3: who probably watch the movie are going to watch to
Speaker 3: continue it.
Speaker 1: So hopefully it's that good.
Speaker 3: But we could also be having a very different conversation
Speaker 3: if Superman doesn't hit in the way they're expecting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then this show comes out afterwards.
Speaker 1: So I'm intrigued. Intrigued.
Speaker 3: Three, this is going to be a big summer for
Speaker 3: where does the superhero story stand right now?
Speaker 1: I think that Superman this isn't aside, but I here's
Speaker 1: my prediction. I think Superman is going to hit. The
Speaker 1: question for me is the critical reception. And I'm hopeful
Speaker 1: about that because I think that I think it's going
Speaker 1: to make in the neighborhood of a billion dollars.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's definitely five hundred to eight hundred. I think
Speaker 3: is a set.
Speaker 1: The question is, and this was the issue with the
Speaker 1: Snyder verse, is do thes hated to the fans kind of?
Speaker 1: There needs to be in a lignement between criticism and
Speaker 1: the fan reaction as well in the box office. Okay, Finally,
Speaker 1: long story short August twenty second on Netflix from the
Speaker 1: creator of BoJack Horseman, Rafael Bob Waksburg is back with
Speaker 1: another animated family drama. This follows one family through apparently
Speaker 1: multiple time streams as it jumps in the future, to
Speaker 1: the past, to the future again to the present as
Speaker 1: we follow the Swooper siblings from childhood to adulthood and
Speaker 1: back again, chronicling their triumphs, disappointments, joys, and compromises your
Speaker 1: level of excitement.
Speaker 3: I'm giving it for remote controls because I love BoJack
Speaker 3: Horseman and also Lisa Hanawal is one of my favorite cartoonists.
Speaker 3: She worked on BoJack Horsemen, she worked to Karimba. It
Speaker 3: was her show. She's back as a supervising producer. I
Speaker 3: think this is going to be hella depressing and really
Speaker 3: hard to watch, just like BoJack Horseman is, but I'm
Speaker 3: hoping it will also be incredibly life affirming and fun
Speaker 3: and beautifully animated.
Speaker 2: The cost is great.
Speaker 3: Dave Franco, who just came off for absolutely fucking Killer
Speaker 3: Studio cameo. Nicole Bayer obviously legendary podcasts, super fun legend
Speaker 3: and super fun nail that start. Abby Jacobson from Board
Speaker 3: CEA Like, I think that's really interesting stuff here. How
Speaker 3: are you feeling about it?
Speaker 1: Gosh, I'm like you. I think BoJack has some of
Speaker 1: the highest highs, certainly in recent animated shows. There are
Speaker 1: episodes that I still think about in the heartbreaking they are,
Speaker 1: how well they depict depression and just an aimlessness that
Speaker 1: is something I think people just experience and don't know
Speaker 1: how to really verbalize, and I think that show really
Speaker 1: presents it in a way that is both life affirming
Speaker 1: but also like really really heartbreaking. I'm gonna give it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a three. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a hopeful three. I'm but I have I'm worried
Speaker 1: like you, I I think I have a limited bandwidth
Speaker 1: right now for truly like the BoJack level heartbreak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think right now, it's tough to watch
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's very tough. And I also think there's a little
Speaker 1: this is not fair to long story short, but it's
Speaker 1: giving me. I don't know how many people watch the
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, Robin Wright, Robert Oh.
Speaker 3: It has it also has like fucking like, uh, what
Speaker 3: the the was it like Tree of Life or what mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think that's yeah, So it's giving me
Speaker 1: some Again, I don't know how many people watch that movie,
Speaker 1: but I did, and it's been giving me a little
Speaker 1: bit of here vibes. So I'm concerned that I won't
Speaker 1: have the emotional bandwidth to deal with it. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give it a three because you know, it comes
Speaker 1: with a tremendous legacy coming out of BoJack, which I
Speaker 1: think is one of the most unique and heartbreaking to
Speaker 1: animated shows in recent memory. Okay, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we're gonna come back with our quick thoughts
Speaker 1: on murder Bots, which just talked. Okay, murder Bot on
Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus is the adaptation of the best selling
Speaker 1: novella for Martha wells Now on Apple TV Plus. I
Speaker 1: believe it's on its fifth or sixth episode as we
Speaker 1: record this right now. Interesting tone for show, and I
Speaker 1: think also a slow starting show. But your your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've read the book. I'm rereading the first book
Speaker 3: right now. I do think it has an interesting tone.
Speaker 3: I also think that the first couple of episodes it's
Speaker 3: been a big conversation start in our discord and.
Speaker 1: At the escape, very slow start. For me.
Speaker 3: I think it's You've got to establish a lot about
Speaker 3: the show, which is like, you have this world where
Speaker 3: these killer robots exist, and this one has hacked its
Speaker 3: programming and now it just wants to sit around and
Speaker 3: watch TV instead of take over the world. And the
Speaker 3: first two episodes do a lot of heavy lifting, a
Speaker 3: lot of exposition. Luckily, Alexander Scarsguard is the murder bot,
Speaker 3: or as they call them as SEC units, and he
Speaker 3: has the narration, which is a major part of the book,
Speaker 3: and at first I think it feels a bit clunky,
Speaker 3: but by the time I was into episode three, I
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I think this is going to be
Speaker 3: something special. And now halfway through the season, I love
Speaker 3: I love the kind of retro futuristic version they have
Speaker 3: of a utopia. I spoke to Alex about this on
Speaker 3: our interview that we did for the for Denogi Pod
Speaker 3: kind of collab, and that was like something that really
Speaker 3: appealed to him was the fact that this is a
Speaker 3: show about TV and watching TV and the joy that
Speaker 3: TV can bring you, because that is what murder Boch
Speaker 3: chooses to do. I really love the other cast members.
Speaker 3: I think that's what I'm most kind of interested in
Speaker 3: right now because murder Bot's fun, but if you've read
Speaker 3: the books, you kind of really know murder Bot. Here
Speaker 3: we really get to expand on the relationships, the way
Speaker 3: that people would love in the future, or the way
Speaker 3: that people would have kids in the future. I also
Speaker 3: think that, yeah, by this point I've seen the whole season,
Speaker 3: But by this point in the season, like episode five,
Speaker 3: that was when I started texting everyone and I was like, guys,
Speaker 3: you have to watch the show like it's actually something
Speaker 3: really special. It's just how do you establish this world
Speaker 3: and world buildings so quickly so you can get to
Speaker 3: the fun stuff. But I've been very happy to see
Speaker 3: in the Escape Patch discord in our discord that people
Speaker 3: who have stuck with it are really enjoying it and
Speaker 3: I do think it is a great adaptation of these
Speaker 3: Martha World's novels, which are like very funny, very silly,
Speaker 3: like satirical sci fi that do play with these ideas
Speaker 3: of like AI and the idea of what dissentients mean,
Speaker 3: and it's you know, I'm also has no surprise, everyone knows.
Speaker 3: I'm also like I'm a little lover girl, you know,
Speaker 3: so like I love that this is kind of this
Speaker 3: idealistic vision of what the future could be, even when
Speaker 3: we're in a dystopia as this is so yeah, I
Speaker 3: am loving it.
Speaker 2: I'm a murder Bot supporter.
Speaker 3: Sabrina Woo's in it, who I just think is so
Speaker 3: great and so funny.
Speaker 2: No, it's just a great cast. It's a great clast.
Speaker 1: Jason, what are your thoughts. I, now that I've kind
Speaker 1: of digested I did not read the book. Now that
Speaker 1: I've kind of digested with the tone of the show
Speaker 1: is because it opens up like a you know, like
Speaker 1: a like a sitcom, like.
Speaker 3: A sitcom, which I don't think even book readers were expecting.
Speaker 1: And so that took a little while to get used to.
Speaker 1: And then with that kind of processing of the tone
Speaker 1: of it, the first two episodes are tough because to
Speaker 1: your point, it does drop us in the world, and
Speaker 1: it it's not really until the end of the second
Speaker 1: episode that the story of the season really starts rolling
Speaker 1: with the introduction of the of the science team, and
Speaker 1: as you begin to understand their working relationship, their personal relationships,
Speaker 1: and the way they relate to the to the second unit,
Speaker 1: and then it isn't really until episode three four that
Speaker 1: you begin to feel like, ah, I understand what this
Speaker 1: season is about. I'm glad that I stuck with it.
Speaker 1: And that's what I would say. Definitely, yeah, stick with
Speaker 1: it because it's with it. It's only a half hour. Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like you're there for an hour each time.
Speaker 1: Trying to be like, when does the story start.
Speaker 3: Five years ago, before we were in the peak, you know,
Speaker 3: consumption era of TV.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what er we're.
Speaker 3: In, but yeah, it five years ago. We were telling people, hey.
Speaker 2: Just watch the show.
Speaker 3: The first series isn't that great, but it gets really great.
Speaker 3: So I think having a show where it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: it's two episodes, you have to and they're still fun
Speaker 3: and it's still Alexander Skarska, but like two episodes, it's
Speaker 3: an hour of your time commit because I do think
Speaker 3: that once you get in there, this is a very
Speaker 3: unique vision of the future and it is a very
Speaker 3: different style of sci fi.
Speaker 1: I Will also says.
Speaker 3: It's kind of hopeful in a way a lot of
Speaker 3: dystopian sci fi we get isn't and it is a
Speaker 3: faithful adaptation of Welles's work, which, by the way, if
Speaker 3: you want to read All Systems, read which is the
Speaker 3: first novella from the murder Bot series, also known as
Speaker 3: About Diaries. It's one hundred and twenty eight pages, so
Speaker 3: you can even read it while you're watching those first
Speaker 3: two episodes. Get a kind of lock on it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think this is really fun. I hope again Apple
Speaker 3: plus TV, we're back at it. Not even sponsored by
Speaker 3: Apple plus TV, but they are making really interesting, weird
Speaker 3: shows and they are.
Speaker 1: Committing to them.
Speaker 3: Also, another thing I love about this is if you
Speaker 3: go to Alexander Scarsguard's page, and I couldn't believe this
Speaker 3: because I watched the show pretty closely, he shows himself
Speaker 3: getting into the practical murder Bot suit, which is essentially
Speaker 3: a pull on suit.
Speaker 2: When you watch.
Speaker 3: That on TV, you will believe you are watching like
Speaker 3: a highly animated CGI robot like Marvel style, but it's
Speaker 3: actually just a really incredible practical suit and I am
Speaker 3: a big fan of that. I'm excited for people to
Speaker 3: see the rest of the season too.
Speaker 1: I love that. I do love the look of it,
Speaker 1: look and feel of it. It reminds me of Star
Speaker 1: Wars in it has a kind of seventies feeling trou
Speaker 1: future design. Like the spaceships are all rounded off. They're
Speaker 1: not like these kind of militaristic looking they look. It
Speaker 1: looks like a you know, like a flying like mood
Speaker 1: ring or something. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And it's like and everything's like rounded.
Speaker 3: There's lots like round boulders and tan colors and yeah,
Speaker 3: very Star Wars.
Speaker 1: And I really like that part of it. David as
Speaker 1: Mulchin as Graffin, who's kind of the early foil for
Speaker 1: a murder bot, is really wonderful and eerie as this
Speaker 1: more as the human who knows too much about technology
Speaker 1: for murder bots.
Speaker 3: Liking you know, and they're so good together, Alexanda and David,
Speaker 3: it's incredible.
Speaker 1: I love that you picked up on that.
Speaker 3: I think des Mulchin is really doing something special with
Speaker 3: that role. Also, you know, Aboo and Joel who I
Speaker 3: were both people that I was like, keep watching it,
Speaker 3: keep watching it. Abu said, you know, he did greatly
Speaker 3: dislikes a binge drop, but this show needed to be
Speaker 3: a binge drop. And I do agree that if this
Speaker 3: show had been a ten episode binge watch, I think
Speaker 3: the conversation and excitement around it right now would be
Speaker 3: like really big can I.
Speaker 1: Like, it's interesting to me the decision to like do
Speaker 1: the heavy exposition over two episodes because I don't know,
Speaker 1: do we really need this robot reprogrammed itself and now
Speaker 1: thinks for itself? Do we really need a heavy lift
Speaker 1: on that. I feel like that as a concept is
Speaker 1: so in the popular so in.
Speaker 2: The main Yeah, that understanding.
Speaker 1: Really know that all of that was super necessary. To me.
Speaker 1: It feels like we could have opened up with the
Speaker 1: science team arriving. I do love the science team.
Speaker 3: I'm not anything to bring them in soon now, but
Speaker 3: I yeah, I'm glad that half the season is out.
Speaker 2: I feel like people are really starting to vibe with ye.
Speaker 3: I think I do think it's funny because I do
Speaker 3: think this is an example where like when the first
Speaker 3: season of You, which had which by the way, we
Speaker 3: didn't even, you know, talk about just ended. But that
Speaker 3: show had already aired weekly on Lifetime and had kind
Speaker 3: of been a flop. Crazy to say that that was
Speaker 3: a Lifetime show. But on New Year's Day, maybe like
Speaker 3: six seven years ago, Netflix bought the rights. They put
Speaker 3: the whole show Binge season on Netflix and it became
Speaker 3: the biggest water cooler moment. And I think that something
Speaker 3: that the streamers are going to have to navigate is
Speaker 3: we have started to see if somebody like that usually
Speaker 3: does weekly, like Disney, puts a whole season out, we
Speaker 3: feel like maybe they're trying to bury it. But I
Speaker 3: think there needs to be a conversation and an understanding
Speaker 3: with execs, with producers whatever that Sometimes you got to
Speaker 3: show the show to people first, and your test audience
Speaker 3: has to say, like, would you rather would you have
Speaker 3: stopped watching this if you didn't get here?
Speaker 2: Does it need to be a binge watch? I think
Speaker 2: this show would have been really supported by that. But
Speaker 2: also the show still exists.
Speaker 3: There's still ten great episodes, and you know you're gonna
Speaker 3: be able to Now you can watch half the show
Speaker 3: and really get a feeling for it. And I think
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of people who are really happy
Speaker 3: they stuck with it, so I'm gonna keep encouraging. I
Speaker 3: think this is gonna be a secret slow burn hit
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty five, and I think by the end
Speaker 3: of the season it really starts to feel like one
Speaker 3: of those shows where you're like, shit, this could be
Speaker 3: like there could be twenty seasons of this, like Star Trek,
Speaker 3: like you really get into the world.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm rooting for it.
Speaker 3: Also just want to shout out thank you to whichever
Speaker 3: of our super producers put this in.
Speaker 2: It's written by Chris and Paul White. I interviewed them
Speaker 2: for the pod.
Speaker 1: They were great.
Speaker 2: You can listen to that interview.
Speaker 1: But I have to say this is one of.
Speaker 3: The most unhinged writing Cole and nineteen eighty eight incredibly
Speaker 3: guys hitting, subversive dream works animation that kind of came
Speaker 3: out at the same time as bugs like Nave Reversa
Speaker 3: to the Clumps.
Speaker 2: I mean, what more needs to be said?
Speaker 3: Nothing more about a boy one of like the classic
Speaker 3: Hugh Grant British adaptations of the famous book, the twenty
Speaker 3: fifteen Cinderella movie, which by the way, is now looked
Speaker 3: upon as the best of the Disney Live action remakes,
Speaker 3: as it was songless, focused on character, great casting. It's
Speaker 3: very beloved in film. Twitter Circles now Rogue won a
Speaker 3: Star Wars story.
Speaker 1: Ever heard of?
Speaker 3: Heard of it ever fucking heard us talk about every
Speaker 3: single week. One of the best written Star Wars that
Speaker 3: we've gotten. Pinocchio twenty twenty two, absolutely deranged movie. Guys,
Speaker 3: If that is a crazy movie, Tom Hanks was in
Speaker 3: his absolute uh what's the word his accent era? I
Speaker 3: would put it where he was doing a lot of accents.
Speaker 3: Same around the same time as Elvis, one of the
Speaker 3: most crazy movies I've ever seen and criminally underrated. Correctly
Speaker 3: put Mozart in the Jungle.
Speaker 1: Mozart in the Jungle is show that to your point,
Speaker 1: I don't think people understood was on television. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: it had gone two seasons before people realized that it
Speaker 1: was an actual show that was on, starring Gail Garcia,
Speaker 1: bernal our Ittu, Mama Tambien King King, as well as
Speaker 1: Lola Kirk, Bernette Peters, Malkmintou. Underrated show, very underrated show.
Speaker 1: It was underrated while it was on, and I think
Speaker 1: it's still underrated.
Speaker 3: It's it's and you can watch it right now, I
Speaker 3: believe on Amazon Prime. But yeah, I mean what, I
Speaker 3: kind of love how out there their writing career has been,
Speaker 3: and I love that this really fits in that kind
Speaker 3: of esoteric, strange, like incredible highs wild choices of that
Speaker 3: kind of Hollywood career that I think is what makes
Speaker 3: a great Hollywood career.
Speaker 1: But yeah, definitely let me check out. We will be
Speaker 1: checking back in with it after the finale tomorrow and
Speaker 1: extra revision we're naming the top ten sci fi movies
Speaker 1: that are not.
Speaker 2: Star Wars not a Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Join us for another popcorn pop out. That's it for
Speaker 1: this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x ray Vision is
Speaker 1: hosted by Jason Sepcion and Rosie Knight and is a
Speaker 1: production of iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abuzafar.
Speaker 3: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wag.
Speaker 1: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme
Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kauffman.
Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and
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