WEBVTT - Summer TV season is here! PLUS Murderbot mid-season check-in 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.000 Worrying. Today's episode contains no spoilers. We're gonna talking about 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:05.600 TV that's coming up. 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:07.960 Yeah, it's gonna be like cash, It's. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:27.560 Only casual television conversation. Hello, my name is Jason Cupsale, 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.560 Adam Rosey Night, and welcome back to x ray Vision 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.680 of the podcast, where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.839 and pop culture comedy for by our podcast, we're bing 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.600 you three episodes a week every Tuesday, Thursday and Friday, 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:41.960 plus tes plus news. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.680 In today's episode, we are gonna be talking about the 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.560 Apple TV Plus series murder Bot, which is rather charming 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.120 but bust. We are gonna talk about the most anticipated 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.760 TV series of the summer and how we are feeling 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.800 about them. 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:01.440 Let's get into it. Okay, television ever heard of it? 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.640 Ever heard of it? Peak TV? Listen. We might be 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.880 towards the end, if not at the end of the 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:13.399 peak TV era, transitioning to a different era. What that 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.039 era will be remains to be seen. But stress tag, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.960 lots of stress TV TEVE, lots of great TV coming 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.200 down the pipe, lots of TV has just left us. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.560 We're going to be rating our excitement levels for some 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:31.080 upcoming television properties, as well as talking about some of 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.240 our personal favorites that maybe don't fit into the cookie 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:40.520 cutter or a general frame of nerd stuff. But first, 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.600 let's talk about some of the TV that we've just 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.240 finished watching that led us to this season, that has 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:53.040 led us to this moment of twenty twenty five upcoming television. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.840 Let's start with andor, which is great. Guys, it's hey, 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:03.040 spoiler alert, it's I think we're both in agreement that 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.320 this is some of the best Star Wars we've ever seen. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.280 No Ques, do you think it enters the conversation of 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.560 like all time great television? Would you put it in 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:13.519 that conversation? 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:20.320 I think as a whole series, season one, season two together. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.040 I think you could hand that off and recommend that 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:28.080 to most TV viewers who are not necessarily into specifically 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.760 sci fi or star wars and say to them, Hey, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.520 do you like sopranos, Do you like mad Men? Do 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.520 you like stories that are about like one person in 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.480 an unusual situation that you will, you know, follow them 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.800 on this journey? And do you like political thrillers? Do 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.720 you like sixties French cinema? I think that you could 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.680 sell it as a great example of prestige TV. I 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.560 think it's a little bit of a harder sell because 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.959 for some people they feel like Star Wars is homework. 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.800 I don't feel like and or makes you do that. 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:59.680 And I do think it can. I do think it 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.840 will continue to be in the conversations of the best 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.440 TV shows ever made. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.400 Yeah, I think if you listen, Star Wars nineteen seventy 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.880 seven is a New Hope. Is a movie that I 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:15.959 feel like, legitimately everyone has seen. I think we all 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.600 assume that people have seen Star Wars. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.640 And I think to talk about. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.079 And I think if you've only seen nineteen seventy seven's 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.400 a New Hope, or you know the updated the various 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.680 updated versions, then I think you can go into and 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.120 or knowing pretty much all you need to know. But 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.800 I agree with you. I think that it's I don't 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.840 think it's like a best TV ever conversation show, but 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.920 I think it's in that second tier of shows where 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:47.680 it's an excellent show, like a really excellent show that 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.880 has a chance to meet a wider audience. Yeah, I 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:54.400 agree with you. I think if you put this in 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.960 front of somebody who's only who only knows Star Wars 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.000 or even the original trilogy, they'd be like, oh, wow, 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.480 this is really good, much in the same way that 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.120 The Penguin is a show that you don't have to 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.640 be a Batman Family great show to love truly. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:13.000 I do think as well that there's an interesting this 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.160 is the kind of interesting crossover point that we're in 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.080 now where a lot of the greatest TV shows of 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.320 all time that you'd see on your Rolling Stone list 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.560 or your Vultualist have for a long time not necessarily 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.640 been adapting another IP or expanding it. But we are 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.560 now in a situation where a lot of the TV 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.839 where the money is going is coming from adapting or 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.840 expanding a IP world like comic books or Star Wars 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.159 or something like that. So I also think that that 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.760 is a shift. Do people want to be in these 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:48.839 worlds or do people want you know, original TV like 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.160 Mad Men, like The Sopranos that kind of expand on 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:55.000 a world in a different way, because you know, nowadays, 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.400 if they made the Sopranos, it would be a Godfather 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.480 spin off, which we actually did get, but it was 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.720 about to make of Godfather. So I think that is 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.960 an interesting cultural crossroads that we're at and I think 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.040 for some people it works, for some people it doesn't. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.560 But I do think that and Or is one of 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.120 the best examples of a show like that that we have, 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.640 and I think it will end up in that If 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.760 you're doing one hundred best TV shows of all time, 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:19.880 I think the next I think it's going to be 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.880 in that top fifty at the higher end. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.160 Let me ask you this, because I'm a big like 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:32.719 format and structuring nerd in terms of how we make 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:37.960 these decisions, how do you classify a show like and Or, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.800 or even The Penguin that is more of a limited 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.920 It's different than Breaking Bad, which was an ongoing show. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.680 It's different than Game of Rounds was an ongoing show. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:51.040 It's more like Chernobyl in that it was a limited series. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.280 So how do you do you judge something like and 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.960 Or The Penguin differently? Do you put it in a 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.039 different category? 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.600 I think that is a conversation that we're going to 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.720 have to keep having. And I do think that the 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:09.280 fact that award shows already specify and award those shows 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.120 differently hints that structurally there is something there. But I 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:18.719 would also say I do think that it serves those 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.640 shows well, because say something like The Penguin, where we 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.120 will likely never get a second season and instead we 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.360 will get other spinoffs. That is basically a perfect season, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.840 Like they don't really make any mistakes. Emotionally, we might 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.920 have disagreed with some of the choices they make, but 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.560 then something like Game of Thrones you have to take 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.120 into consideration the entirety of the show, and then your 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:44.640 odds and the kind of consistency of the show, it 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.120 becomes more questionable. So I think that there is an 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.039 interesting conversation, and I think that in the era that 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.839 we're in now, I wouldn't be surprised if we start 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:57.160 seeing those lists where it's like best fifty mini series 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.000 of all time, you know, best limited series. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:04.640 Ye Rosie off the Dome, your top four television shows 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:09.479 all time, best hour long prestige TV top four. Okay, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.800 don't mean it, Okay, I would mind fucking boring as shit. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.200 I mean it's like in no order, here's the ones 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.840 I watch all the time exactly that. I mean, it's 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:24.200 like Succession, dead Wood. Oh, I love that show, Breaking Bad, 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.360 you know The Wire. That's a very very boring list. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.920 I think, No, no, no, I think that's really good. I'm 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.560 definitely I would agree with you. I'm coming in with 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.200 the Wire is there. I love that show so much. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.880 I can go back and rewatch any episodes. I love 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:42.520 to tell people to rewatch it. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.960 I think it is what a mad Men also on 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:46.760 the list, I know. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:52.640 Yeah, I will add for me, I think Better Cool 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.119 Soul is on there. I think that show is like unbelievable, 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:57.920 and I think it shouldn't be good and it's great. 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.360 It's it's it's so much bad than it should It's 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.320 got unblievable cast. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.200 I also Hannibal is on there. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.240 For me, I think it's kind of unbelievable that that 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:11.000 show was made for broadcast TV. And I will say 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.000 that I do have a newer addition that I think 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.680 in the future will kind of looked back on as 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.000 like a contemporary X Files. I'm putting Evil on there. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.200 I think the show is like so fucking good, and 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.280 if you watch it from the beginning, you get from 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.320 the beginning to the end of that first to the 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.120 four seasons that they made. It is such a satisfying show. 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:41.560 It has a puzzle box mystery that gets solved, it 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.760 has humor, it has horror. It has like devastating emotional 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.880 lows and incredible emotional highs. The cast is funny, it's 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.720 super weird, and it's kind of I think in that 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.360 Hannibal Slash X Files space, where like it shouldn't have 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.640 been able to have a crossover like it did, but 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.600 it did. And if CBS had not moved it to 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:05.160 their streaming channel because they wanted to add more people there, 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.719 it would have continued to be the biggest show on 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.760 network television, which is what the first season was. And 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.559 also I think this doesn't even touch on another conversation, 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.400 which is like streaming, because like some people their favorite 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.800 show ever is Queen's Gambit, you know, And I think, 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.160 like for me, if we're talking about and this is 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:28.080 kind of recency bias, but like currently I love House 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.200 of the Dragons so much that that might be like 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.880 edging out Game of Thrones for me, Like there's so 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.719 many different conversations to be had, and also what then 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.319 do you do about show like House of the Dragon 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.120 which doesn't exist without Game of Thrones? 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:41.760 So can it really be the better show? 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.199 But I love the version of it that they did, 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.240 so yeah, I think it's very interesting because Also, we 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:53.160 are in an era of high quality, highs capacity, Like 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.080 there's a lot of TV coming out, a lot of 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.400 content like for example, Severance. 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.480 I think for a lot of people, it's in the 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.360 top ten right now, you know. 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.000 I think that it I think it's it's revitalized the 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:11.079 puzzle box genre, which I think was kind of moribund recently, 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:12.920 or at least a lot it. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.760 Had been struggling to contain a lot of small season Yes, 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.000 it was certainly a lot smaller. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.559 You know, It's like there's been other shows like Dark 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.439 for instance, that have gone there. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:28.440 Yellow Jackets, but also like didn't necessarily deliver or have 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:29.120 the same reach. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:34.320 Severance has a I mean, it captured the zeitgeist in 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.600 a way that we haven't seen a show do in 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.960 a while, and it did it pretty organically. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:41.720 It's a huge hit too. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:46.200 Yeah, as a huge hit on a you know, shouts 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.120 to them, they're spending oodles and oodles of money. But 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.800 really in the in the landscape, a minor streamer, like, 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.320 not a big platform. So one of the coolest things 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.160 to watch happened. It was the rise in sudden popular 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.319 of Severance in the way it took over the conversation 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.040 is unique. We haven't seen shit like that a little while. 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.000 And also I'm very interested because I can't wait in 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.920 five years, you know, when I'm brewing, We'll all still be. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:12.400 Here, guys. 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:19.720 But like, does Severance still have that emotional connection to people? 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.760 Do people still see it as one of the best 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.800 shows of all time? Or was it like uniquely. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.480 Perfectly made for this moment when everyone's feeling isolated, when 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.079 everyone's feeling the pressures of capitalism. Like, I'm very interested 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.000 to kind of see how that goes. But it is 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.800 interesting to compare something like Severance, which has these two 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:42.000 really solid seasons that are very very you know, feels 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:46.160 very consistent, feels like quality wise. By the end of it, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.840 most people were feeling like, yeah, this is like I'm 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.640 still in Let's go then to something like Last of Us, 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.520 where we had first season generally seen as one of 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.480 I would say, like one of the best TV shows 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.640 over the last ten years. Season two definitely more in consistent, 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.600 definitely kind of I would say, there is a lot 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.000 of annoying this course about it that we've kind of 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.720 tried to not even take into consideration, but there's also 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.839 a lot of real conversation. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.480 About the way it is and isn't working for people. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.199 The thing that's fascinating to me about the second season 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:20.079 of The Last of Us is this is unquestionably like, objectively, 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.080 this show is good. It's well made, it's well written, 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.160 it's well acted, great great costs. But I also think 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:31.199 to your point, almost everyone you talk to about it 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:37.920 has some level of critique about yeah, the length, the pacing, 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.880 whatever it may be. And I think that leads to 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.960 an overall feeling of a show that is was panned 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.600 more than it really was. Like, again, this is a 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:48.560 very good show. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.480 It's the you've set the bar so high for the 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.199 first season that it's kind of hard to follow it up. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:55.679 It's the it's the. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.640 Iconic kind of idea of a sophomore slamp or the 0:12:58.760 --> 0:12:59.920 fear of adapting. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:01.920 I also think for our. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.400 Next TV episode, because I'm realizing we have so many 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:05.640 great things to talk about here. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.920 You both watched we watch too much. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.400 Yeah, So I'm also thinking like about the fact that 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.720 there is an interesting argument about the time that we 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:21.560 are in right now, where fifteen years ago, if you 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.960 made like a perfect first season of TV, they. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:25.880 Might just leave it. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.400 They might just be like, guys, you adapted the game. 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.600 The game was a massive hit. They might not immediately 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:31.000 be like. 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.520 When is season two? When's the adaptation of the game. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.680 And I think that because of the nature of the 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:40.840 way that corporations see R and TV and films and 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.760 everything under this kind of broad banner of like content, 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.800 that can sometimes push out these ideas and force a 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.840 quicker turnaround or a turnaround at all. And I think 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.960 there's an interesting conversation to talk about there as well, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.120 because I also am a fan of like again another 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.920 thing that we could definitely put us it's own segment. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:04.800 But I love like a perfect season of TV, just 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.559 one who doesn't know the Watchmen. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.800 Like, uh, that's one of the biggest the BBC Office, 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.920 Oh my god, the BBC Office when it like, I 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:19.000 agree with you, Watchman is another one perfect season of television. 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.280 Don't do anything else. Those two for me are like, 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.240 you know, I remember when I first you know on 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:30.400 BBC America watch the original BBC Office. I was like, wow, Well. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.200 Also in England, we didn't know any of the people 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.320 when it came out, even Rickey Gerbay's was not known, 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:40.640 so like it had that great pre internet early Internet 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.840 kind of Blair Witch almost feeling of like is it real? 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.240 Like is this could this guy be that person? You know? 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.160 And I love like a perfect one season of TV 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.200 and like, you know, Freaks and Geeks. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.520 That's another one where I'm just like, I. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.640 Love that show hy Fidelity. I fucking love that show 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.560 with Zoe Kravitz. I'm like, Hulu, actually, please do bring 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.920 that one back, like I've been asking for a long time. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.240 But I think it's interesting because I will tell you 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.720 a show for me that if it didn't have another 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.520 season that just came out. I think what I would 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.560 say is a perfect TV season of TV is The 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.600 Studio and they already announced season two, and I'm like, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:21.720 maybe don't do it, guys, Like this. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:26.400 Is so perfect. Folks, if you have not watched The Studio, 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.520 maybe you don't have Apple TV. Plus, we've talked about 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.360 how easy it is to get up, very easy. You 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.760 can get it for free right now, right now. The 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:39.680 subscriptions are falling off the back of trucks christ like 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:45.200 old school newspaper delivery. It is. It was such a 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:50.560 wonderful joy in my weekly television watching schedule. It had 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.640 been a little while since I had a show that 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.160 hit that sweet spot for me where I know I 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.360 wasn't gonna be stressed. Yeah, then a real in a 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.400 significant way watching I was gonna enjoy it and I 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.360 was gonna uh laugh and see things that I wasn't 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.160 gonna see anywhere else. And the studio is like that 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.240 for me. I at first, I was worried. You know, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.360 we live in la we know. You know, I just 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.440 had a conversation with our mutual friend Kenny, who is 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.520 you know, a former agent of the businesses like I can't. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.840 I was talking to him yesterday and he's like Jason, 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.800 everybody in the studio, those are like real people. That's 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.080 what these conversations were us. I was worried, like it 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.680 was going to be too niche. It's it's just so 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:38.320 much fun, and it's fun in a curb your enthusiasm 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.440 way where you're watching a guy and a bunch of 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.600 people just like step On Rakes in the most entertaining way. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.400 It doesn't take itself too seriously, which I think is necessary. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:53.200 And it's got some of the greatest cameos maybe in 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.080 the history of television already. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.960 Just the first episode. If you watch that and you 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.400 see who the big cameo is, who is part of 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.560 the major plotline of the show. You will go, oh, 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.760 I understand, like this is a different level of there 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.440 is a conversation clearly that was had when they were 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:10.200 making this show. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.000 This is Rosie's fan pic. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.840 But my general idea, I know people who've sold shows, 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.479 I know people who have bought shows. I feel like 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.760 this script was probably going around with you know then 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.800 that made by Seth Rogan, and I feel like everyone's 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.479 agent was probably hearing about the show and being like, 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.720 this is the show you want to get your person into. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.960 Because the car, the cameos are amazing. The writing is 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:38.880 so good, it's so funny. It is definitely very relatable 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.959 if you are in LA, but if you're not, it 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.280 basically is all your expectations of how you think LA is. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.480 So I like that it appeals to people there in 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.320 a way that feels recognizable. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.679 Our Discord loves it. It is so funny. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:55.800 And the way that they build in unbelievable cinematography. Every 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.280 single shot in the show is a wanner. And there 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.879 is an episode where the whole episode is Wona and 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.160 it's called the Wanner and it's about them trying to 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.480 make a wanna in a film on the same day. 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:06.800 It's some of the most. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:10.080 Technically incredible TV making that you will ever see. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:11.560 And it's also a lot of. 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.639 It is done very simply, which I love. I just 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.639 I was blown away by it. I thought that the 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.040 final two episodes where they go to cinema kon to bond, 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.760 it's some of the funniest shit you've ever seen. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:27.840 And it's also like Babylon and it's like cub your. 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:32.679 Enthusiasm and it's just so funny, and the costing is incredible, 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:34.280 and yeah, I think that. 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.399 To me, I would be like, never do a second season. 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.520 But if you can keep up that quality, please do 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.160 it well, please do it. They are keep proved it, 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:49.240 it's happening. Keep throwing money. It's it's good creators, creators 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:53.520 like like Rogan, who I think will go down. We've 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.240 talked about it before, but it's underrated. Actually, the project, 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.119 the amount of pressure. Okay, do you have any with 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.760 fames that maybe don't fit into like any of the 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.720 easy boxes stuff that you've can watch it. 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.800 The really we touched about, We touched on it, We 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.040 talked about it before the pit I think again That's 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:15.960 another show where it's like perfectly mas stress stress that. Honestly, 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.399 there's episodes of the Studio where I was stressed, but 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:19.920 only because I'd been on set. 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.199 Yeah, please don't do this. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.480 I mean. The Pit is a show that we had 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.240 a rule in the household that like, it's you can't 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.040 watch it in the hour before bed. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:30.439 No, it's you can't, it's. 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:37.200 The sunlight has to still be in the sky. One 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:38.800 we haven't gotten to talk about a. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.199 Lot that I have been loving and hopefully we'll be 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:42.920 doing some cool stuff with then they lead up to 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:47.040 San Diego Comic Con, and stuff is Sakamoto Days, which 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:51.600 is a Netflix anime about an assassin who falls in 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:57.800 love and then becomes like a chubby seven eleven like 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.280 convenience store owner. It's like a food anime. It's an 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.879 action anime. The manga is really good, and I just 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.080 think it's so much fun. Everyone I've recommended it to 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:11.000 has loved it, and I think that that it will 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.000 end up on a few of the best of lists 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:14.560 at the end of the year. How about you, Is 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:16.440 there any shows we haven't talked about that you've really 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:17.120 loved this year? 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.280 You know, I'm a big fan of For me TV, 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.719 everything doesn't need to be the best thing ever. I 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:27.480 like I like a I like a well made, watchable 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.439 show with people I like in it. I really enjoyed 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:35.120 Your Friends and Neighbors. It's very much it's very much 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:39.000 TV plus Apple TV plus. It's very where Jon Hamm 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.800 seems to live now. Uh you know, catch him on 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:45.160 The Morning Show and other crazy soapy But Your Friends 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:49.440 and Neighbors is like a very elevated soap with a 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:55.639 hard crime twist towards the end. John ham is wonderful 0:20:55.760 --> 0:21:00.880 playing with your preconceived notions of him through Madmen and 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:05.480 as a pitchman for luxury items like his work with Mercedes, 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.000 And he's playing with all those those things, and the 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.560 show is playing with those things too, I think wonderful effect. 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.560 It's just like a very watchable. 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.000 I love a good well one of the most. I'm 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.600 a big rewatcher. That's the funniest thing about me doing 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.880 this job. That's why my first answer to best TV 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.760 show was fucking Colombo or Annibal, shows that have not 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.960 been on air for like twenty years at this point. 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.520 But yeah, I love that pick. I think it's great. 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:31.760