1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Worrying. Today's episode contains no spoilers. We're gonna talking about 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: TV that's coming up. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be like cash, It's. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Only casual television conversation. Hello, my name is Jason Cupsale, 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Adam Rosey Night, and welcome back to x ray Vision 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: of the podcast, where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: and pop culture comedy for by our podcast, we're bing 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: you three episodes a week every Tuesday, Thursday and Friday, 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: plus tes plus news. 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: In today's episode, we are gonna be talking about the 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: Apple TV Plus series murder Bot, which is rather charming 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: but bust. We are gonna talk about the most anticipated 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: TV series of the summer and how we are feeling 14 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: about them. 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Okay, television ever heard of it? 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Ever heard of it? Peak TV? Listen. We might be 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: towards the end, if not at the end of the 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: peak TV era, transitioning to a different era. What that 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: era will be remains to be seen. But stress tag, 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: lots of stress TV TEVE, lots of great TV coming 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: down the pipe, lots of TV has just left us. 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: We're going to be rating our excitement levels for some 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: upcoming television properties, as well as talking about some of 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: our personal favorites that maybe don't fit into the cookie 25 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: cutter or a general frame of nerd stuff. But first, 26 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the TV that we've just 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: finished watching that led us to this season, that has 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: led us to this moment of twenty twenty five upcoming television. 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: Let's start with andor, which is great. Guys, it's hey, 30 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: spoiler alert, it's I think we're both in agreement that 31 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: this is some of the best Star Wars we've ever seen. 32 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: No Ques, do you think it enters the conversation of 33 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: like all time great television? Would you put it in 34 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: that conversation? 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: I think as a whole series, season one, season two together. 36 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: I think you could hand that off and recommend that 37 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: to most TV viewers who are not necessarily into specifically 38 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: sci fi or star wars and say to them, Hey, 39 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: do you like sopranos, Do you like mad Men? Do 40 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: you like stories that are about like one person in 41 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: an unusual situation that you will, you know, follow them 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: on this journey? And do you like political thrillers? Do 43 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: you like sixties French cinema? I think that you could 44 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: sell it as a great example of prestige TV. I 45 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: think it's a little bit of a harder sell because 46 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 3: for some people they feel like Star Wars is homework. 47 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: I don't feel like and or makes you do that. 48 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: And I do think it can. I do think it 49 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: will continue to be in the conversations of the best 50 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: TV shows ever made. 51 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you listen, Star Wars nineteen seventy 52 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: seven is a New Hope. Is a movie that I 53 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: feel like, legitimately everyone has seen. I think we all 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: assume that people have seen Star Wars. 55 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: And I think to talk about. 56 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: And I think if you've only seen nineteen seventy seven's 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: a New Hope, or you know the updated the various 58 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: updated versions, then I think you can go into and 59 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: or knowing pretty much all you need to know. But 60 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think that it's I don't 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: think it's like a best TV ever conversation show, but 62 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: I think it's in that second tier of shows where 63 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: it's an excellent show, like a really excellent show that 64 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: has a chance to meet a wider audience. Yeah, I 65 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: agree with you. I think if you put this in 66 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: front of somebody who's only who only knows Star Wars 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: or even the original trilogy, they'd be like, oh, wow, 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: this is really good, much in the same way that 69 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: The Penguin is a show that you don't have to 70 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: be a Batman Family great show to love truly. 71 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: I do think as well that there's an interesting this 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: is the kind of interesting crossover point that we're in 73 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: now where a lot of the greatest TV shows of 74 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: all time that you'd see on your Rolling Stone list 75 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: or your Vultualist have for a long time not necessarily 76 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: been adapting another IP or expanding it. But we are 77 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: now in a situation where a lot of the TV 78 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 3: where the money is going is coming from adapting or 79 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: expanding a IP world like comic books or Star Wars 80 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: or something like that. So I also think that that 81 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: is a shift. Do people want to be in these 82 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: worlds or do people want you know, original TV like 83 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: Mad Men, like The Sopranos that kind of expand on 84 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: a world in a different way, because you know, nowadays, 85 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: if they made the Sopranos, it would be a Godfather 86 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: spin off, which we actually did get, but it was 87 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: about to make of Godfather. So I think that is 88 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: an interesting cultural crossroads that we're at and I think 89 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: for some people it works, for some people it doesn't. 90 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: But I do think that and Or is one of 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: the best examples of a show like that that we have, 92 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: and I think it will end up in that If 93 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: you're doing one hundred best TV shows of all time, 94 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: I think the next I think it's going to be 95 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: in that top fifty at the higher end. 96 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because I'm a big like 97 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: format and structuring nerd in terms of how we make 98 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: these decisions, how do you classify a show like and Or, 99 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: or even The Penguin that is more of a limited 100 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: It's different than Breaking Bad, which was an ongoing show. 101 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: It's different than Game of Rounds was an ongoing show. 102 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: It's more like Chernobyl in that it was a limited series. 103 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: So how do you do you judge something like and 104 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: Or The Penguin differently? Do you put it in a 105 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: different category? 106 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: I think that is a conversation that we're going to 107 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: have to keep having. And I do think that the 108 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: fact that award shows already specify and award those shows 109 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: differently hints that structurally there is something there. But I 110 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: would also say I do think that it serves those 111 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: shows well, because say something like The Penguin, where we 112 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: will likely never get a second season and instead we 113 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: will get other spinoffs. That is basically a perfect season, 114 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: Like they don't really make any mistakes. Emotionally, we might 115 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: have disagreed with some of the choices they make, but 116 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: then something like Game of Thrones you have to take 117 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: into consideration the entirety of the show, and then your 118 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: odds and the kind of consistency of the show, it 119 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: becomes more questionable. So I think that there is an 120 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 3: interesting conversation, and I think that in the era that 121 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: we're in now, I wouldn't be surprised if we start 122 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: seeing those lists where it's like best fifty mini series 123 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: of all time, you know, best limited series. 124 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: Ye Rosie off the Dome, your top four television shows 125 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: all time, best hour long prestige TV top four. Okay, 126 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: don't mean it, Okay, I would mind fucking boring as shit. 127 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's like in no order, here's the ones 128 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: I watch all the time exactly that. I mean, it's 129 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: like Succession, dead Wood. Oh, I love that show, Breaking Bad, 130 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: you know The Wire. That's a very very boring list. 131 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: I think, No, no, no, I think that's really good. I'm 132 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: definitely I would agree with you. I'm coming in with 133 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: the Wire is there. I love that show so much. 134 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: I can go back and rewatch any episodes. I love 135 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: to tell people to rewatch it. 136 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: I think it is what a mad Men also on 137 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: the list, I know. 138 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will add for me, I think Better Cool 139 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 3: Soul is on there. I think that show is like unbelievable, 140 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: and I think it shouldn't be good and it's great. 141 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: It's it's it's so much bad than it should It's 142 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: got unblievable cast. 143 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: I also Hannibal is on there. 144 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: For me, I think it's kind of unbelievable that that 145 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: show was made for broadcast TV. And I will say 146 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: that I do have a newer addition that I think 147 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: in the future will kind of looked back on as 148 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: like a contemporary X Files. I'm putting Evil on there. 149 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: I think the show is like so fucking good, and 150 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: if you watch it from the beginning, you get from 151 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: the beginning to the end of that first to the 152 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: four seasons that they made. It is such a satisfying show. 153 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: It has a puzzle box mystery that gets solved, it 154 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: has humor, it has horror. It has like devastating emotional 155 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: lows and incredible emotional highs. The cast is funny, it's 156 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: super weird, and it's kind of I think in that 157 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: Hannibal Slash X Files space, where like it shouldn't have 158 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: been able to have a crossover like it did, but 159 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: it did. And if CBS had not moved it to 160 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: their streaming channel because they wanted to add more people there, 161 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 3: it would have continued to be the biggest show on 162 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: network television, which is what the first season was. And 163 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 3: also I think this doesn't even touch on another conversation, 164 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: which is like streaming, because like some people their favorite 165 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: show ever is Queen's Gambit, you know, And I think, 166 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: like for me, if we're talking about and this is 167 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: kind of recency bias, but like currently I love House 168 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: of the Dragons so much that that might be like 169 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: edging out Game of Thrones for me, Like there's so 170 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 3: many different conversations to be had, and also what then 171 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 3: do you do about show like House of the Dragon 172 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: which doesn't exist without Game of Thrones? 173 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: So can it really be the better show? 174 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 3: But I love the version of it that they did, 175 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: so yeah, I think it's very interesting because Also, we 176 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: are in an era of high quality, highs capacity, Like 177 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: there's a lot of TV coming out, a lot of 178 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: content like for example, Severance. 179 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people, it's in the 180 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: top ten right now, you know. 181 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: I think that it I think it's it's revitalized the 182 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: puzzle box genre, which I think was kind of moribund recently, 183 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: or at least a lot it. 184 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: Had been struggling to contain a lot of small season Yes, 185 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: it was certainly a lot smaller. 186 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: You know, It's like there's been other shows like Dark 187 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: for instance, that have gone there. 188 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: Yellow Jackets, but also like didn't necessarily deliver or have 189 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: the same reach. 190 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: Severance has a I mean, it captured the zeitgeist in 191 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: a way that we haven't seen a show do in 192 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: a while, and it did it pretty organically. 193 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: It's a huge hit too. 194 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a huge hit on a you know, shouts 195 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: to them, they're spending oodles and oodles of money. But 196 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: really in the in the landscape, a minor streamer, like, 197 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: not a big platform. So one of the coolest things 198 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: to watch happened. It was the rise in sudden popular 199 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: of Severance in the way it took over the conversation 200 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: is unique. We haven't seen shit like that a little while. 201 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: And also I'm very interested because I can't wait in 202 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: five years, you know, when I'm brewing, We'll all still be. 203 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: Here, guys. 204 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: But like, does Severance still have that emotional connection to people? 205 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: Do people still see it as one of the best 206 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: shows of all time? Or was it like uniquely. 207 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: Perfectly made for this moment when everyone's feeling isolated, when 208 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 3: everyone's feeling the pressures of capitalism. Like, I'm very interested 209 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: to kind of see how that goes. But it is 210 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: interesting to compare something like Severance, which has these two 211 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: really solid seasons that are very very you know, feels 212 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: very consistent, feels like quality wise. By the end of it, 213 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: most people were feeling like, yeah, this is like I'm 214 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: still in Let's go then to something like Last of Us, 215 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: where we had first season generally seen as one of 216 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: I would say, like one of the best TV shows 217 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: over the last ten years. Season two definitely more in consistent, 218 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: definitely kind of I would say, there is a lot 219 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: of annoying this course about it that we've kind of 220 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: tried to not even take into consideration, but there's also 221 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 3: a lot of real conversation. 222 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: About the way it is and isn't working for people. 223 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: The thing that's fascinating to me about the second season 224 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: of The Last of Us is this is unquestionably like, objectively, 225 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: this show is good. It's well made, it's well written, 226 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: it's well acted, great great costs. But I also think 227 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: to your point, almost everyone you talk to about it 228 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: has some level of critique about yeah, the length, the pacing, 229 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And I think that leads to 230 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: an overall feeling of a show that is was panned 231 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: more than it really was. Like, again, this is a 232 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: very good show. 233 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: It's the you've set the bar so high for the 234 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 3: first season that it's kind of hard to follow it up. 235 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: It's the it's the. 236 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: Iconic kind of idea of a sophomore slamp or the 237 00:12:58,760 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: fear of adapting. 238 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: I also think for our. 239 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: Next TV episode, because I'm realizing we have so many 240 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: great things to talk about here. 241 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: You both watched we watch too much. 242 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm also thinking like about the fact that 243 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: there is an interesting argument about the time that we 244 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: are in right now, where fifteen years ago, if you 245 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: made like a perfect first season of TV, they. 246 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: Might just leave it. 247 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: They might just be like, guys, you adapted the game. 248 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: The game was a massive hit. They might not immediately 249 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: be like. 250 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: When is season two? When's the adaptation of the game. 251 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: And I think that because of the nature of the 252 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: way that corporations see R and TV and films and 253 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: everything under this kind of broad banner of like content, 254 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: that can sometimes push out these ideas and force a 255 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: quicker turnaround or a turnaround at all. And I think 256 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: there's an interesting conversation to talk about there as well, 257 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: because I also am a fan of like again another 258 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: thing that we could definitely put us it's own segment. 259 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: But I love like a perfect season of TV, just 260 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 3: one who doesn't know the Watchmen. 261 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: Like, uh, that's one of the biggest the BBC Office, 262 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: Oh my god, the BBC Office when it like, I 263 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: agree with you, Watchman is another one perfect season of television. 264 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: Don't do anything else. Those two for me are like, 265 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, I remember when I first you know on 266 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: BBC America watch the original BBC Office. I was like, wow, Well. 267 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: Also in England, we didn't know any of the people 268 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: when it came out, even Rickey Gerbay's was not known, 269 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: so like it had that great pre internet early Internet 270 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: kind of Blair Witch almost feeling of like is it real? 271 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: Like is this could this guy be that person? You know? 272 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: And I love like a perfect one season of TV 273 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: and like, you know, Freaks and Geeks. 274 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: That's another one where I'm just like, I. 275 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: Love that show hy Fidelity. I fucking love that show 276 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: with Zoe Kravitz. I'm like, Hulu, actually, please do bring 277 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: that one back, like I've been asking for a long time. 278 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: But I think it's interesting because I will tell you 279 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: a show for me that if it didn't have another 280 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: season that just came out. I think what I would 281 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: say is a perfect TV season of TV is The 282 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: Studio and they already announced season two, and I'm like, 283 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: maybe don't do it, guys, Like this. 284 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Is so perfect. Folks, if you have not watched The Studio, 285 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: maybe you don't have Apple TV. Plus, we've talked about 286 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: how easy it is to get up, very easy. You 287 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: can get it for free right now, right now. The 288 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: subscriptions are falling off the back of trucks christ like 289 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: old school newspaper delivery. It is. It was such a 290 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: wonderful joy in my weekly television watching schedule. It had 291 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: been a little while since I had a show that 292 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: hit that sweet spot for me where I know I 293 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be stressed. Yeah, then a real in a 294 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: significant way watching I was gonna enjoy it and I 295 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: was gonna uh laugh and see things that I wasn't 296 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: gonna see anywhere else. And the studio is like that 297 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: for me. I at first, I was worried. You know, 298 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: we live in la we know. You know, I just 299 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: had a conversation with our mutual friend Kenny, who is 300 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, a former agent of the businesses like I can't. 301 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: I was talking to him yesterday and he's like Jason, 302 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: everybody in the studio, those are like real people. That's 303 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: what these conversations were us. I was worried, like it 304 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: was going to be too niche. It's it's just so 305 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: much fun, and it's fun in a curb your enthusiasm 306 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: way where you're watching a guy and a bunch of 307 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: people just like step On Rakes in the most entertaining way. 308 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't take itself too seriously, which I think is necessary. 309 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: And it's got some of the greatest cameos maybe in 310 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: the history of television already. 311 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: Just the first episode. If you watch that and you 312 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: see who the big cameo is, who is part of 313 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: the major plotline of the show. You will go, oh, 314 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: I understand, like this is a different level of there 315 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: is a conversation clearly that was had when they were 316 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: making this show. 317 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: This is Rosie's fan pic. 318 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: But my general idea, I know people who've sold shows, 319 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 3: I know people who have bought shows. I feel like 320 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: this script was probably going around with you know then 321 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: that made by Seth Rogan, and I feel like everyone's 322 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 3: agent was probably hearing about the show and being like, 323 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: this is the show you want to get your person into. 324 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: Because the car, the cameos are amazing. The writing is 325 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: so good, it's so funny. It is definitely very relatable 326 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 3: if you are in LA, but if you're not, it 327 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: basically is all your expectations of how you think LA is. 328 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: So I like that it appeals to people there in 329 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: a way that feels recognizable. 330 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: Our Discord loves it. It is so funny. 331 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: And the way that they build in unbelievable cinematography. Every 332 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: single shot in the show is a wanner. And there 333 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 3: is an episode where the whole episode is Wona and 334 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: it's called the Wanner and it's about them trying to 335 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: make a wanna in a film on the same day. 336 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: It's some of the most. 337 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: Technically incredible TV making that you will ever see. 338 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: And it's also a lot of. 339 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 3: It is done very simply, which I love. I just 340 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: I was blown away by it. I thought that the 341 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: final two episodes where they go to cinema kon to bond, 342 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: it's some of the funniest shit you've ever seen. 343 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: And it's also like Babylon and it's like cub your. 344 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: Enthusiasm and it's just so funny, and the costing is incredible, 345 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: and yeah, I think that. 346 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: To me, I would be like, never do a second season. 347 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: But if you can keep up that quality, please do 348 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: it well, please do it. They are keep proved it, 349 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: it's happening. Keep throwing money. It's it's good creators, creators 350 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: like like Rogan, who I think will go down. We've 351 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: talked about it before, but it's underrated. Actually, the project, 352 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: the amount of pressure. Okay, do you have any with 353 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: fames that maybe don't fit into like any of the 354 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: easy boxes stuff that you've can watch it. 355 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: The really we touched about, We touched on it, We 356 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: talked about it before the pit I think again That's 357 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: another show where it's like perfectly mas stress stress that. Honestly, 358 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: there's episodes of the Studio where I was stressed, but 359 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: only because I'd been on set. 360 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, please don't do this. 361 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean. The Pit is a show that we had 362 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: a rule in the household that like, it's you can't 363 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: watch it in the hour before bed. 364 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: No, it's you can't, it's. 365 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: The sunlight has to still be in the sky. One 366 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: we haven't gotten to talk about a. 367 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 3: Lot that I have been loving and hopefully we'll be 368 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: doing some cool stuff with then they lead up to 369 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: San Diego Comic Con, and stuff is Sakamoto Days, which 370 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: is a Netflix anime about an assassin who falls in 371 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: love and then becomes like a chubby seven eleven like 372 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: convenience store owner. It's like a food anime. It's an 373 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: action anime. The manga is really good, and I just 374 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: think it's so much fun. Everyone I've recommended it to 375 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: has loved it, and I think that that it will 376 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: end up on a few of the best of lists 377 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: at the end of the year. How about you, Is 378 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 3: there any shows we haven't talked about that you've really 379 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 3: loved this year? 380 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a big fan of For me TV, 381 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: everything doesn't need to be the best thing ever. I 382 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: like I like a I like a well made, watchable 383 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: show with people I like in it. I really enjoyed 384 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: Your Friends and Neighbors. It's very much it's very much 385 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: TV plus Apple TV plus. It's very where Jon Hamm 386 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: seems to live now. Uh you know, catch him on 387 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: The Morning Show and other crazy soapy But Your Friends 388 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: and Neighbors is like a very elevated soap with a 389 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: hard crime twist towards the end. John ham is wonderful 390 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: playing with your preconceived notions of him through Madmen and 391 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: as a pitchman for luxury items like his work with Mercedes, 392 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: And he's playing with all those those things, and the 393 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: show is playing with those things too, I think wonderful effect. 394 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: It's just like a very watchable. 395 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: I love a good well one of the most. I'm 396 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: a big rewatcher. That's the funniest thing about me doing 397 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 3: this job. That's why my first answer to best TV 398 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: show was fucking Colombo or Annibal, shows that have not 399 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: been on air for like twenty years at this point. 400 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, I love that pick. I think it's great. 401 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: I'm a big. 402 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: I think it fits into that kind of like it's 403 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: not cozy crime, but it's not. 404 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: Stressed t TV. 405 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 3: If you can enjoy being in this fancy, rich people world, 406 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: but there's a twist to it that you wouldn't necessarily expect. 407 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: It's like more engaging and smarter than second screen level viewing, 408 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: but it's not like challenging you in the way that like, 409 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: you know, a succession or a really high you know, 410 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 1: like a high level hour long drama. Is this is 411 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: streaming's version of an ABC show on a like Thursday 412 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: night or yeah, yeah, exactly, and it's honestly, yeah, it's 413 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: really good. 414 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 3: Again, that great cast, great money from Apple is paying 415 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 3: for a quality level that we weren't always getting, and 416 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: I thought that one was really fun. 417 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: Our Discord also big fan of that show. 418 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: Also, there's tons of great shows on Netflix that fit 419 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: into that that are kind of like British crime adaptations 420 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: that they bring over or co productions between the BBC 421 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: and Netflix where they exist not on Netflix in England, 422 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: and then they exist things like you know Bodyguard that 423 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: was an older one. 424 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: But I thought that was really really good. 425 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 3: I recently watched a great British Oh Obviously we talked 426 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: about adolescents that is stressed to TV. But what I 427 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: have been really enjoying is they have been doing co 428 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: productions with the BBC that are Harlan Coben, the mystery author. 429 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 3: They have been adapting his books into mini series and 430 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: there was a great one I watched called for Me Once, 431 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 3: another one called Missing You, and one called Safe and 432 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 3: those are very much in that kind of space of 433 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 3: like it's gonna hook you, You're gonna want to watch it, 434 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: but it's not gonna challenge you like Succession the wit 435 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 3: and banter is not necessarily gonna be that dense, but 436 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: you're still gonna be really engaged. And I think that 437 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: is one of the things I do love about the 438 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: way streaming is right now is we are getting access. 439 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: To more TV from around the world, more different. 440 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: Kinds of TV, these sub genres and spaces that we 441 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: would align stuff as happened to us when we were 442 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 3: talking about our favorite TV of the year. It's kind 443 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: of consistently fracturing and growing as like a web. So 444 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 3: there's just so many kind of great shows that you 445 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 3: can just put on. But honestly, the show I watch 446 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 3: most of just murder, she wrote, which is like the funny, 447 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: but she is so good. It looks good. It's funny, 448 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: it's not Colombo. I will get too hooked. I can't 449 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: have that on while I work. Murder, she wrote, I 450 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 3: know what Jessica's doing, going somewhere being nosy, causing some murders. 451 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: It looks good. 452 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: She's wearing a cool jumper. I can work while I 453 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: do it. But even Colombo like it's too eye quality. 454 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: I can't put it. 455 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 3: On while I work because you just start watching it 456 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: like to engage. 457 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a quick break and we'll come back 458 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: and talk about our the upcoming shows that we're excited about, 459 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: which we will rank out of five remote controls. And 460 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: we're right. Okay, let's start rankings for upcoming television shows. 461 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: One remote control being completely lacking in any kind of 462 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: excitement for us. We are not reaching for that remote control. 463 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: Five remote controls being the maximum excitement. You were going 464 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: to have to hold me back to keep me from 465 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: that remote. 466 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: Every single you got the remote for the good speakers, 467 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: you got the remote. You got all five remotes that 468 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: you go to because you want to add the best quality. 469 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: Let's start with The Gilded Age Season three of Max HBO. 470 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: Max's show set in late eighteen hundreds New York during 471 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: the actual historical Gilded Age, when capitalism is booming, the 472 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: late Industrial ages booming, and massive amounts of money are 473 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: pouring into New York City and there are legitimately no 474 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: laws these people, Yes, what is that culture like? Starring 475 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: Kerrie Coon, Mortgan Spector, Luisa Jacobson, Christiansky, The Wonderful Christine Baranski. 476 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: Season three coming up soon. Following the crescendo of the 477 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: Opera War Ins the season two finale, the old guard 478 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: of old money New Yorkers, like Christine Baranski's Agnes van 479 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: Rin and Donna Murphy's Missus Astor, has been weakened, and 480 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: the Russells carry Coons in Domino, Bertha and Morgan, Spectors, 481 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: Stowett George standpoise to take their place at the top 482 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: of society. You're ranking solid. 483 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: This is a solid three out of five for me, 484 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 3: not because for me, not because I don't really enjoy 485 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: the show, which I do, But like we said, we're 486 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: in so many great there, We're in an era of 487 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: so much great TV that this is like definitely in 488 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 3: the middle. But The quality is great if you really 489 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: enjoyed Netflix's Bridgeton, but you want a version that is 490 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: more steeped in like a real historical era and has 491 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: a little bit more to say, but it's still really 492 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: soapy and doesn't have as much anachronistic like musical choices 493 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. This is a great next step 494 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: post Bridgington. Not that romance based, but there are little 495 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 3: bits of romance. The thing I'm actually most excited about 496 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 3: with this is very underrated actor who is a hilarious, 497 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: hilarious comedic star of the MCU, Leslie Ugghams, who plays 498 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 3: Deadpool's blind best friend and roommate blind Out. She is 499 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: coming in as like a friend of Felicia Richard's character, 500 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 3: Elizabeth Kirklin. She's gonna be called missus Ernestine Brown. I 501 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: am so interested to see her playlist because I think 502 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 3: she is a I don't think those dead Pool movies 503 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 3: are as popular without her because she's so good. She's 504 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: so funny, she drops some of the most outrageous lines, 505 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: and I really want to see her in this kind 506 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: of prestige TV period peace World, and obviously, who doesn't 507 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: love Felicia Richard. I want her to have a new friend. 508 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm interested. I mean, what a cast. 509 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: And I would say. 510 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: Also that you know what this is great for if 511 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: you have like your mom over or your parents over the. 512 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: Family members, this is a great. 513 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: We should watch this while we you know, snack or 514 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: wait to go out or whatever, you want to watch 515 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: something in the evening. This is a great family acceptable 516 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: TV watch. 517 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: I am also going to go with three out of 518 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: five I agree with you. This is my mom loves things, 519 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: in her words, that are real stories, which by which 520 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: she means, you know, set in an actual historical period 521 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: that aren't things like bridgershin Or They're great, which are 522 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: kind of only softly set in those esthetically modern set 523 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: in those periods, but with a lot of more kind 524 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: of modern speech and production kind of approaches. Yeah, I'm 525 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: this is a very soapy show, but wonderfully so. And 526 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: I've just started season one about halfway through, and I'm 527 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: enjoying it. It's a great show to have on and 528 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: it's really well done. I'm going to put it at 529 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: three remote controls up next June twenty fourth on Disney Plus. 530 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Iron Heart, the somewhat surprisingly dropping on us in only 531 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: a few weeks. Iron Heart, set after the events of 532 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: Black Panther were kind of forever, Marvel Television's Iron Heart 533 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: pits technology against magic when Rary Williams played by Dominic Thorne, 534 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: a young genius inventor determined to make her mark on 535 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: the world, returns to her hometown of Chicago. Her unique 536 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: take on building iron suits is brilliant, but in pursuit 537 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: of hair ambitions, she finds herself wrapped up with the 538 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: mysterious yet charming Parkerk Robbins Ak eight The Hood played 539 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: by Tomy Ramos. Your remote control rating, I'm giving it 540 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: a four, hoping. 541 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: I'm hoping that it could be a hopeful, hopeful for 542 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: We had a great chat with Sam Bailey, one of 543 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: the directors. I felt like she was just very much 544 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: on our level, enjoyed the same things that we love 545 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: about this Ebewing obviously a friend of the pod. We 546 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: think she's amazing, definitely very heavily influent on this show 547 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: and her run of the comics are I'm interested to 548 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: see this version of the Hood played by Anthony Raymos, Like, 549 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: are they really bringing magic in? 550 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: Is it going to be more that he uses Teka's magic? 551 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: Kind of like we saw with Mysterio in the Sony 552 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: Spider Man movies. I think there's a lot here that 553 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 3: could be really interesting. It's promising to be a little 554 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: bit darker. It's promising to be a little bit more 555 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: of that kind of you know, teen to early twenties 556 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: coming of age, which has been a big critique of 557 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: the MCU with characters like America Chavez. Yeah, making them 558 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: a little bit younger, giving them that more classic coming 559 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: of age. It's gonna be interesting and nice to maybe 560 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: see a little bit of that messiness. And also, if 561 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: it's done well, could set us up for where we 562 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: could see I think that the Tom Holland Spider Man 563 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 3: now living on his own in his own apartment in 564 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: his early twenties, we are going to get more of 565 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: that messy kind of young adulthood in the MCU going forward. 566 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: So I think this could be a great spot. I 567 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: think to Dominique Thorn is amazing. I think she absolutely 568 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: deserves this show. 569 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm giving it. I'm giving it a solid 570 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: four because I'm. 571 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 3: Feeling hopeful and I really do love the character of 572 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: Iron Hawk. 573 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: I am gonna give it a solid three. I'm like 574 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: you in my heart I'm a hopeful four. The rollout 575 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: has me concerned. It's not that not that Disney is 576 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: trying to necessarily bury the show, but theyre appear to 577 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: be throwing it out there, kind of like saying, hey, fight, 578 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: good luck, and I hope you find your audience, but 579 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: we're not gonna throw a bunch of stuff behind this. 580 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: So that could either mean that A one, they're trying 581 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: to avoid all conversations about it. I think that. I 582 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: think they're trying to avoid early conversations about it, and 583 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: that either means they are not proud of it or 584 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: they just don't want to deal with the conversations around it. 585 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a three, but I'm a 586 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: hopeful four in my heart. Let me quick stop. I 587 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: realized I should have been reading these the little synopsies, 588 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna read this and put this in my 589 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: preamble before Rosie starts talking. All right. Up next June 590 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: twenty fifth, on Hulu, it's season four of The Bear. 591 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: How are they making it so quickly? I gotta say, 592 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: it feels to me. I was about to say, it 593 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: feels like The Bear is legitimately always on television. Here's 594 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: the synopsis. With new challenges around every corner, the team 595 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: must adapt, adjust, and overcome. Yes, Yes, this season the 596 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: pursuit of excellence is it just about getting better, It's 597 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: about deciding what's worth holding on to. Rosie your excitement 598 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: level for season four The Bear. 599 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so my honest ANSA is a two and a half. 600 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm pushing it to a three because I 601 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 3: love this cost. 602 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: I love these characters. I love spending time with them. 603 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 3: This is very peak stressed these TV for me, because 604 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: I did used to walk in fancy restaurants and as 605 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: a waita and and it sucks. And this the first 606 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: season of this show, I think is a masterpiece. 607 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: I think it. 608 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: Sums up a lot of the realities and feelings of 609 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 3: working in an environment like that. But I also loved 610 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: seeing them as like a working class kind of kitchen, 611 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: and a kitchen where Kami was more learning about like 612 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: the importance of being a good member of the team. 613 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: I find this stuff a little bit harder now that 614 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 3: they're moving into making you know this fancier restaurant and stuff, 615 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 3: but I will still be watching. I think the cost 616 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: is great. I think they're probably gonna win a ton 617 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: more Emmys, and I'm excited to see where this goes. 618 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: And I hope we get more time just with the 619 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: crew and the kitchen together. That's what I missed from 620 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: season three. 621 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it too remote. I agree with you. 622 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: It's a very high quality, well acted, well written. It 623 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: has a kind of panache about the way it moves 624 00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: through its various episodes. Lets you know that this is 625 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: a very confident production team that knows they're doing something great. 626 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: That said, for me, season three was a little bit 627 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: of a downer season. It lost some of the propulsion 628 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: perhaps in success as they've opened the restaurant. And also 629 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: it does feel to me, maybe you know what, I think, 630 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: we've been Last of Us and House of the Dragon 631 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: peeled with some of the weight times for seasons, so 632 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: that it genuinely feels shocking that the Bear just is 633 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: pumping out seasons that come out on time. And I 634 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: think that's why. 635 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: I think that's why for some folks, some just average 636 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 3: TV watches, this is one of the best shows on 637 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 3: TV because they don't have to wait two years. 638 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 2: And then like rewatch the show to understand it. 639 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: Or like Severns. So I don't want to ding it 640 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: fully for that, but I will admit that I am 641 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: feeling a little bit bit of Bear fatigue. 642 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: Jason said, take longer to make the show, don't just. 643 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: It is like you want to talk about stress teage. 644 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: This is a stress teuge show. On occasion, not every episode. 645 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 3: Fast episode of this is one of the most stressful 646 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 3: episodes you will ever watch. 647 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: If you've watched in a restaurant, but there are stress 648 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: I would say anywhere from twenty to sixty percent of 649 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: the episodes in any given season of The Bear are 650 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: extremely stressful. I'm I'm looking at you. The the Family Dinner 651 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: episode of The Bear, the cameo Layden Family Dinner episode 652 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: of The Bear that is just like goes from a 653 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: like an eleven on the anxiety scale and then reaches 654 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: like a twenty by the time the episode is on verifying. 655 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: Up next, Squid Game talk about pumping them out and 656 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: coming out the times. Squid Games season three, June twenty 657 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: seventh on Netflix. Here's the snops, picking up from season two, 658 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: devis stating Cliffhanger. Season three throw us geehun back into 659 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: the brutal heart of the Games, determined to dismantle them 660 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: once and for all. Still haunted by the betrayal and 661 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: loss of his closest ally, gehun faces new perils, including 662 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: the front Man, who shockingly infiltrated the rebellion disguise as 663 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: player double O one. 664 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 3: Yes, I am gonna say, guys, cheeky, I think to 665 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 3: promote this on having a cliffhanger when it was just 666 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 3: clearly that this is one season split into two. But 667 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: you know what, good for them? Everyone loves Squid Games. 668 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: Was season two as good as squ season one? No, 669 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: because once again, you can't capture lightning in a battle 670 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 3: in that way. I do like these characters though, I 671 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: do like this world. I love a dystopian story. It's 672 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: a solid three for me. I'm hoping they're gonna do 673 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 3: something that's gonna surprise me, but this currently I've got 674 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: my three remotes out of five for Squid Games season three. 675 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it two and a half remotes. I'm 676 00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: with you. I it's interesting for show that is really 677 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: so full of twists and surprises that you don't feel surprised. Yes, 678 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: and because so many of those twists feel like they 679 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: are in service of keeping our hero from really making 680 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: any headway. And bringing down this criminal empire that said, 681 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: or capitalist criminal empire that said. I love closure. I'm 682 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: a return of the Jedi person for that reason. So 683 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I'll bump it up to three 684 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bump it up to three remotes because I'm 685 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: hopeful that we get some yes up next. Listen, we 686 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: both love a serial killer. We do. We saw a problem. 687 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Dexter resurrection. You want to talk about resurrections. 688 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: How many time can this show get resurrected? Dude? 689 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 3: Dexter's Jason Boys at this point July eleventh on the 690 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 3: Belagered Showtime and Paramount Networks. So Beliegue, good showtime is so, 691 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 3: belieguod Man, have a showtime. 692 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean right now. And we could talk later about 693 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: the the true beleagueredness of Paramount, which is trying to 694 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: go through a sale but is being actively extorted by 695 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: the President of the United States. Anyway, here's the synopsis. 696 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: Weeks after Dexter takes a bullet to the chest from 697 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: his own son, he who awakens for COVID to find 698 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: Harrison played by Jack Alcott, gone without a trace. Realizing 699 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: the weight of what he put his son through, Dexter 700 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: sets out for New York City, determined to find him 701 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: and make things right, but closure won't come easily. When 702 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: Angel arrives with questions, Dexter realizes his past is catching 703 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: up with him fast and just gonna sprinkle a little 704 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: spice on this for your future ratings formulation, Rosie, We're 705 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: introduced to a band of serial killers seemingly recruited by 706 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: Peter Dinklich's new character, Leon Prater, a billionaire venture capitalist. 707 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 3: Well, guess what I have to tell you something, guys. 708 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 3: This is how much of a sucker I am for 709 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: like a wild serial killer thing. This is like a 710 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 3: first paragraph, solid one. It's a solid one star. Like 711 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: I'm not that interested about it. I'm gonna give I'm 712 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 3: gonna pick up my remote. I'll give it a try. 713 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 3: I have watched all of the original season. I did 714 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 3: watch the last reboot. 715 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: Season, So look, am I gonna watch it? 716 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 3: Like? 717 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 2: Yes, But but I will tell you that. 718 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 3: Goes up to a solid three remote when we're talking 719 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 3: about a band of interesting serial killers recruited by Peter 720 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 3: Dinklitch who is a billionaire like one of my favorite 721 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 3: on the three season shows of all time, that I 722 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 3: think does not get enough love. Is this really weird 723 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: Kevin Bacon show called The Following, which is about Kevin 724 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 3: Bacon and his nemesis. And his nemesis is a professor 725 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 3: of get Alan Poe and he does murders in Edgar 726 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 3: Allan Poe themed style. But then when he is jailed 727 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: and all of this happens in like the first five 728 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 3: minutes of the first episode. 729 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: When he is jailed, he manages to use. 730 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 3: The Internet to create a cult of serial killers who 731 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 3: then start doing like outrageous serial killings on his behalf. 732 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 3: It's so good, it's so trashy, it's so enjoyable, and 733 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 3: this is giving that energy. So I'm going for a three. 734 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 3: I want to see Peter Dinklage. I want to see 735 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 3: these serial killers better have inventive, weird vibes, like I 736 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 3: want to see something strange, and I want to know obviously, 737 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 3: like I'm guessing Dexter and his son are gonna have 738 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 3: to team up to take down these serial killers. 739 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a three and a half 740 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: for the same reason as you. This band of this 741 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: super serial killer team recruited by Sounds Greater Dnkledge that said, 742 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a three and a half remotes with 743 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: a quick off trigger. I'm gonna give it. I'm very 744 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: excited for this first episode July eleventh on the Bleaker 745 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: Showtime Paramount. But if it doesn't do it for me, 746 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna go to the Backe introduced Leon straight away, 747 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: like I don't want to. I don't care about that 748 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: strain of son. 749 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 3: I need to be pinkadic glitch at his serial killer Avengas. 750 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: Up next Season three of Foundation on Apple TV plus 751 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: full Disclosure. I am the official podcast the first two 752 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: the official Foundation pod on it. Yes. Here is the synopsis. 753 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: The Foundation has become increasingly established, far beyond its humble beginnings, 754 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: while the Kleonic Dynasties Empire has dwindled. As both of 755 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: these galactic powers forge an uneasy alliance, a threat to 756 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: the entire galaxy appears in the fearsome form of a 757 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 1: warlord known as the Mule, which readers of the Foundation 758 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: book series will recognize. Your remote contul writing. 759 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 3: This is one of the most insane ambitious TV shows 760 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 3: on TV. It's based on unfinished works. This, by the way, 761 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 3: Season three is going to be one hundred and fifty 762 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 3: two years after season two, which is one of my 763 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 3: favorite things about this show. 764 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: Also, I lovely. 765 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: Pace, and this year they are adding Troy kotzew Oscar 766 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: Winner deaf Oscar Winner, who I love. So I'm very 767 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 3: excited to see how that we often don't get like 768 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 3: deafness and disability in futuristic shows, whether dystopian or utopian. 769 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 3: So I'm interested to see how they play that. I'm 770 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 3: gonna give it a solid four because I do think 771 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 3: that we need to support weird TV shows and this 772 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: is one of the weirdest. And if you want to 773 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 3: know where Apple TV Plus is throwing lots of money, 774 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 3: it is at this show right and it is a 775 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 3: crazy sci fi escapade. 776 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: For remotes for me, listen. If you love sci fi, 777 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: you're probably a lover of sci fi. If you're listening 778 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: to this podcast, you should be watching a foundation because 779 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: it's great. It's great sci fi. 780 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 3: It has weird sci fi that we don't really get anymore. 781 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 3: And also our listeners love sci fi. We know that 782 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 3: you guys have told us, so give this a chance. 783 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 3: If you're looking for that sci fi that isn't Star Wars, 784 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 3: that sci fi that maybe you haven't heard of that 785 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 3: sci fi that maybe you read part of when you 786 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 3: were a kid but never checked back in on that's 787 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 3: foundation and I'm very interested to see what season happens 788 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 3: with Season three. 789 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: As Abu says in the chat, one of the most 790 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 1: visually stunning shows and recenters. It looks like a million zero. 791 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: It looks like a movie. Every door level like looks great. 792 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 3: It's also if you're in that Prestige TV mindset of 793 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 3: Game of Thrones, if you want to see people fucking 794 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 3: and killing and fighting. 795 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: Against baby fucking baby fucking, and they also be fighting, 796 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: sometimes at the same time, sometimes at the same time. 797 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 3: So I'm saying, just like, give it a try, and 798 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 3: I'm very excited to see where it goes next. 799 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: Up next, Oh, on disney Pluse, the Disney Pluse Network. 800 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: Eyes of Wakanda August six. Wow. There is no true synopsis, 801 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: but here is storyboard artist Todd Harris quote. The story 802 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: starts off during the end of the Western Bronze Age. Oh, 803 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: and that sparks off this giant spy espionage story that 804 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: roberates through time. You get Wakanda grade James Bond and 805 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: sometimes a James Bond with the backdrop of all the 806 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: awesomeness that is Wakanda. Sounds good, Rosie your remote control rating. 807 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 3: I'm giving it three and a half with a hopeful 808 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 3: four because I do no you know what, I'm going 809 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,919 Speaker 3: to reframe this because this is not about how good 810 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 3: I think the show is going to be. This is 811 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: a Black Panther animated series that is produced by Ryan Coogla, 812 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 3: and that at d twenty three revealed a very key 813 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 3: connection spoiler mfs on if you don't want it that 814 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: will probably get an imfist in this show that will 815 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 3: probably kind of see different warriors from around the world. 816 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 3: I'm guessing this is maybe gonna lean into the cosmic side. 817 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 3: So actually, my true, my true excitement as somebody who 818 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 3: grew up with this stuff, there are a five star 819 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,280 Speaker 3: excitement for me. I'm giving it five remotes of excitement 820 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 3: because it's an animated Black Panther show produced by Ryan Coogler. 821 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 2: Look are we in MCU fatigue? 822 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: Yes? 823 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: But is Black Panther one of the coolest characters ever made? 824 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 2: Is Wakanda one of the best worlds that Jack Kirby 825 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 2: ever visualized. 826 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 3: Is Black Panther still a character no matter who is 827 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 3: holding the mantle that makes people excited. So look, this 828 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 3: is not a prediction of the quality of the show. 829 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 3: I'm hoping for the best, but my actual excitement, Like, 830 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 3: will I be stoked and counting down to the day 831 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 3: that I see this? 832 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: Yes? 833 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 3: Am I worried there isn't like a full trailer or anything. Also, Yes, 834 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 3: but I'm letting the I'm letting the childhood excitement go. 835 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 3: And I'm saying five remotes of excitement for me. 836 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: I am a four remote until I see that trailer. 837 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: Here's passed me at a solid four right now before 838 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: I see the trailer. We just got done watching the 839 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: second season of Andor, which is a fantastic show that 840 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: builds on the early era and formation of the Rebellion 841 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: and delivers that as high level espionage thrills. I think 842 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: they could do the same thing with Eyes of Wakanda. 843 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: You're talking about great a nation that has been secret 844 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: up until you know, twenty fourteen in the fictional fictional 845 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: year of twenty fourteen in the MCU something like that. 846 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: And so how did they keep it secret all those years? 847 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: What were the lengths they would have to go to? 848 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: Where did anybody ever discover Wakanda and have to be 849 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: silenced or bought off or what. I think that there 850 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: is tremendous potential for this to be like an and 851 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: or level of thrills in terms of a spy story 852 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: built around the history of this fictional place. So I 853 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: am really really excited, and I think that depending on 854 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 1: the trailer, Yes, my excitement could go up, could rise 855 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: all the way to the limit of five remotes, or 856 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: even drop, which I hope doesn't happen, depending on what 857 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: we see in that trailer. So I'm gonna give it 858 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: a solid four right now. Trailer TVD up next August 859 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: sixth on Netflix. It is season two of Wednesday starring 860 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 1: Jenny Or starring Jenny Oega. Here is the synopsis. Wednesday 861 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: Adams returns to prowl the gothic halls of Nevermore Academy. 862 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: We're fresh foes and woes. Oh wait. This season, Wednesday 863 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,439 Speaker 1: must navigate family, friends and old adversaries, propelling her into 864 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: another year of delightfully dark and cookie mayhem. Armed with 865 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: her signature razor sharp wit and deadpan charm, Wednesday is 866 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: also plunged into a new bone chilling supernatural mystery. Yeah. 867 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 3: I like the best season of Wednesday just fine, I think, 868 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 3: Jen I'll take it as fantastic casting. I love Catherine 869 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 3: Zea Jones as Mortsha, but it was very ya Netflix show. 870 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 3: If you watch a lot of those, you know what 871 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 3: I mean. I would say I would be about a 872 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 3: two for this, though I do hope. I think I 873 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 3: wrote an article for IGN about how I thought the 874 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 3: first season was good, but it has the potential to 875 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,760 Speaker 3: be really great. 876 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: If it's weirder, I hope they lean into that. 877 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 3: But I'm pushing mine up to three remotes because they 878 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 3: are adding this year Steve Bushemi, which I love, and 879 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 3: apparently the rumors are that he is gonna maybe play 880 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 3: the head teacher who was before played by our fave 881 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 3: Gwendolyn from A Game of Ferns. But also as well, 882 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 3: I will say that is somewhere. 883 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 2: Where this show never fails. Like the level of casting. 884 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 3: I mean, Louis Guzman as the patriarch of the Adams family. 885 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 3: Gomez is like iconic casting, looks identical to the cartoon. 886 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: The original cartoon. 887 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 3: This year they're adding Oh the Wandawayne Newton as well. 888 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 3: You may know her Sandy, but she recently introduced herself 889 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 3: with her full name. I mean, she's amazing obviously, you 890 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 3: know I love Mission Impossible too, so I love her. 891 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 3: Lady Gaga is gonna be in this season, Christopher Lloyd 892 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 3: from Back to the Future, Haley Joel Osmond from The 893 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 3: Sixth Sense, who has had a resurgence in many comedic roles, 894 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 3: and Heaven Matzarro from Welcome to the Doll's House. So like, 895 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 3: the cost is giving weird. So I'm pushing up to 896 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 3: a three from. 897 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 2: A two where it would have been gosh. 898 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: I am gonna go a two just because listen, the 899 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: trailer was good that said, this is one of those 900 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 1: shows where it's been three it's like quietly been three years. 901 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And for some reason with this show, I'm 902 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: a little I'm concerned that it took that long because 903 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: it kind of feels like it. 904 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 2: You had all the sets, you had the cattle, the sets, had. 905 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: All the stuff. You know. Tim Burton obviously deeply involved, 906 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: but it's not like he's doing other stuff. And so 907 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,959 Speaker 1: I'm a little confused, is what took so long? That said, 908 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think that it was Tim Burton weird, 909 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: which is to say, a style of weird that we've 910 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 1: that is not that we've that we're not surprised by. 911 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: I do think a little bit more weirdness would increase 912 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: my excitement level bit of a solid two. But you know, uh, 913 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it much like Dexter Resurrection. I'm 914 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: gonna give it two episodes and let's see where my 915 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: my excitement level goes from there. So I'm gonna give 916 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: it a solitude. Let's go to a cook break and 917 00:50:50,040 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: with you're at and we're back up next. Oh, folks, 918 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,240 Speaker 1: this might be I'm gonna make a prediction in terms 919 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: of excitement level, this might be our most rolled show. 920 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna have the most remote controls guys. 921 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: August twelfth on FX Hulu Alien Earth from You Know 922 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: star showrunner Noah Hawley. Here is the synopsis. Set in 923 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two years before Alien and the events 924 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: that befell the crew in Nostromo, Noah Hawley's Alien Earth 925 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 1: will follow the deep research vessel USCSS Magineo after crash 926 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 1: lands on Earth, with a young woman called Wendy played 927 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: by Sidney Chandler, and a ragtag group of tactical soldiers 928 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 1: making a quote fateful discovery that puts them face to 929 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: face with the planet's greatest threat. I'm excited. I need 930 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: to know nothing else. 931 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,320 Speaker 3: Timothy Oliphant, isn't it So I'm like, okay, that's a 932 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 3: five anyway. 933 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, Aliens, we're. 934 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 2: Gonna see Cymbia on Earth. It's pre Nostromo. I'm very excited. 935 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: That's fascinating. And also, let's. 936 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 3: Remember now a Holly made legion, which is like a 937 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,760 Speaker 3: deeply conflicted show for me, but also a fantastic fucking show, 938 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 3: and it's in a genre space and it was totally unexpected. 939 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 3: So I'm very ready for this to be incredible. And 940 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 3: I am hoping that Disney, Hulu, Effects, the corporations that 941 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 3: are putting this one throw that money out the screen. 942 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 3: I want this shit to look like and or I 943 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 3: want to see the xenomorph. I need to know that 944 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 3: you have a practical xenomorph. I want to see the 945 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 3: weird hybrid law. And obviously we're very excited to have 946 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 3: camm And come on and explain it all to us 947 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 3: as the alien lover that she is. 948 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: It's a period piece. I think Noah Holly thrives in 949 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: that kind of setting. I love his anthology work with 950 00:52:53,520 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: the Fargo television series, and I am extremely curious as 951 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: to how a late seventies alien television show, because you 952 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: have going. 953 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 3: To quickly make it look that way, even though at 954 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:15,359 Speaker 3: second it has to look like how we recognize the 955 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 3: original Fantastic Yeah Alien movie. 956 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: Adapting a late seventies movie set in twenty two. I 957 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: can't wait to see. It's gonna be the show. I'm 958 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 1: gonna give it. I'm gonna give it the full five 959 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,959 Speaker 1: remote control. I'm giving it five. We're giving it ten. 960 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: This is all. 961 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 2: This is all ten exciting remote controls. 962 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:41,439 Speaker 1: Up next Peacemaker Season two, August twenty first, on HBO Max. 963 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,919 Speaker 1: We've been waiting for this one. The official log line 964 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 1: does not tell us much, but here it is quote. 965 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: The new season follows Christopher Chris Smith aka Peacemaker, the 966 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: vigilante superheroes. He struggles to reconcile his past with his 967 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: new found sense of purpose while continuing to kick righteous 968 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: evil do but in his misguided quest for peace at 969 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: any cost. Gunn, who I'm beginning to worry is over 970 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 1: over shaming himself. Maybe he has wrote all eight episodes 971 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: of season two and is directing three. Your excitement level, Rosie, 972 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm giving it a three. I am. 973 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 3: I am a lover in case you didn't know, if 974 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 3: you've listened to the podcast, I'm a lover of the 975 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 3: James Gun Suicide Squad movie. I think it's a masterpiece. 976 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 3: This show, for me, did not continue the threads that 977 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 3: I loved from that, but I do think the first 978 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 3: season was interested in reckoning with the idea of American patriotism, 979 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 3: with racism, with like Clan villains, like there was a 980 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 3: lot of interesting stuff there. I think the cost is great. Obviously, 981 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 3: John Cena is amazing in this role. I'm hoping that 982 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 3: as the show grows in this season and we get 983 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 3: to see you know, it's been revealed that like Guy 984 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 3: God in Greenland and will be in here, and I'm 985 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 3: interested to see how this connects with Superman. 986 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 2: This is going to be our first post Superman project, so. 987 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: That is pushing me. 988 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 3: I think it's a It's an excited three with hopes 989 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 3: for more. 990 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm going to go excited three, but 991 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm equally concerned. I do think that the the inclusion 992 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 1: of Guy Gardner tells us that we're going to be 993 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 1: picking up I think the baton from the events of Superman, 994 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:39,720 Speaker 1: which is awesome. I am worried. Creature Commandos was fun 995 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: but also felt kind of sparse, and it was really 996 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 1: the place where I began to think, God, Gun's doing 997 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: a lot, It's doing a lot, a lot, a lot, 998 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: and obviously so much riding on Superman. So I do. 999 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 1: I just hope that it leaves me feeling more full 1000 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 1: than Creature Commando's left me feeling I did. I loved 1001 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: season one. I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I 1002 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 1: worry that guns being yeah overstretched, so an excited and 1003 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: concerned three remote controls for me, but the excitement primarily 1004 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: comes from the fact that we're gonna be really expanding DC. 1005 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also we see you with this. Your mention 1006 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 2: of Creature Commando's did remind me. 1007 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 3: Something I really didn't like from the first season was 1008 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 3: like that we see Rick Flagg Junior get killed in 1009 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,240 Speaker 3: Suicide Squad spoiler alert for like a five year old movie. 1010 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 3: But it is this really huge moment where he is 1011 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 3: finally choosing not to be the Patriot, and obviously it's 1012 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 3: revealed that Peacemaker was there as Amanda Wallace kind. 1013 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,240 Speaker 1: Of fail safe. 1014 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 3: But this season we will see Frank Grio reprise his 1015 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 3: role from Creature Commandos, where he was loving to fuck 1016 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 3: and now he's come into this role and he is 1017 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,879 Speaker 3: apparently going to be trying to like hunt down peace 1018 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 3: Maker cause he killed this son. So that's interesting to me, 1019 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 3: but again feels like a lot. Also, I do think that, 1020 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 3: you know, we talked in the discord about this, because 1021 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 3: like I do think it says a lot about the 1022 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 3: trust that Warner Brothers hasing gone that they're allowing a 1023 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 3: TV show that honestly, like five percent of the people 1024 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 3: who probably watch the movie are going to watch to 1025 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 3: continue it. 1026 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: So hopefully it's that good. 1027 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 3: But we could also be having a very different conversation 1028 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 3: if Superman doesn't hit in the way they're expecting. 1029 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then this show comes out afterwards. 1030 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: So I'm intrigued. Intrigued. 1031 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 3: Three, this is going to be a big summer for 1032 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 3: where does the superhero story stand right now? 1033 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 1: I think that Superman this isn't aside, but I here's 1034 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: my prediction. I think Superman is going to hit. The 1035 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: question for me is the critical reception. And I'm hopeful 1036 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: about that because I think that I think it's going 1037 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: to make in the neighborhood of a billion dollars. 1038 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 3: Yes, it's definitely five hundred to eight hundred. I think 1039 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 3: is a set. 1040 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: The question is, and this was the issue with the 1041 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: Snyder verse, is do thes hated to the fans kind of? 1042 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: There needs to be in a lignement between criticism and 1043 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: the fan reaction as well in the box office. Okay, Finally, 1044 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: long story short August twenty second on Netflix from the 1045 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: creator of BoJack Horseman, Rafael Bob Waksburg is back with 1046 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: another animated family drama. This follows one family through apparently 1047 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: multiple time streams as it jumps in the future, to 1048 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 1: the past, to the future again to the present as 1049 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: we follow the Swooper siblings from childhood to adulthood and 1050 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:46,919 Speaker 1: back again, chronicling their triumphs, disappointments, joys, and compromises your 1051 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: level of excitement. 1052 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 3: I'm giving it for remote controls because I love BoJack 1053 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 3: Horseman and also Lisa Hanawal is one of my favorite cartoonists. 1054 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 3: She worked on BoJack Horsemen, she worked to Karimba. It 1055 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 3: was her show. She's back as a supervising producer. I 1056 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 3: think this is going to be hella depressing and really 1057 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 3: hard to watch, just like BoJack Horseman is, but I'm 1058 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 3: hoping it will also be incredibly life affirming and fun 1059 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 3: and beautifully animated. 1060 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 2: The cost is great. 1061 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 3: Dave Franco, who just came off for absolutely fucking Killer 1062 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 3: Studio cameo. Nicole Bayer obviously legendary podcasts, super fun legend 1063 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 3: and super fun nail that start. Abby Jacobson from Board 1064 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 3: CEA Like, I think that's really interesting stuff here. How 1065 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 3: are you feeling about it? 1066 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: Gosh, I'm like you. I think BoJack has some of 1067 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: the highest highs, certainly in recent animated shows. There are 1068 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: episodes that I still think about in the heartbreaking they are, 1069 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: how well they depict depression and just an aimlessness that 1070 00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:00,080 Speaker 1: is something I think people just experience and don't know 1071 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: how to really verbalize, and I think that show really 1072 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: presents it in a way that is both life affirming 1073 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 1: but also like really really heartbreaking. I'm gonna give it. 1074 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a three. It's a little bit 1075 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: of a hopeful three. I'm but I have I'm worried 1076 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 1: like you, I I think I have a limited bandwidth 1077 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 1: right now for truly like the BoJack level heartbreak. 1078 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think right now, it's tough to watch 1079 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 2: that stuff. 1080 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 1: It's very tough. And I also think there's a little 1081 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 1: this is not fair to long story short, but it's 1082 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 1: giving me. I don't know how many people watch the 1083 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, Robin Wright, Robert Oh. 1084 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 3: It has it also has like fucking like, uh, what 1085 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 3: the the was it like Tree of Life or what mean? 1086 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think that's yeah, So it's giving me 1087 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 1: some Again, I don't know how many people watch that movie, 1088 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 1: but I did, and it's been giving me a little 1089 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 1: bit of here vibes. So I'm concerned that I won't 1090 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 1: have the emotional bandwidth to deal with it. But I'm 1091 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 1: gonna give it a three because you know, it comes 1092 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 1: with a tremendous legacy coming out of BoJack, which I 1093 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: think is one of the most unique and heartbreaking to 1094 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 1: animated shows in recent memory. Okay, let's take a quick 1095 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 1: break and we're gonna come back with our quick thoughts 1096 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 1: on murder Bots, which just talked. Okay, murder Bot on 1097 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus is the adaptation of the best selling 1098 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: novella for Martha wells Now on Apple TV Plus. I 1099 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: believe it's on its fifth or sixth episode as we 1100 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 1: record this right now. Interesting tone for show, and I 1101 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: think also a slow starting show. But your your thoughts. 1102 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've read the book. I'm rereading the first book 1103 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 3: right now. I do think it has an interesting tone. 1104 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 3: I also think that the first couple of episodes it's 1105 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 3: been a big conversation start in our discord and. 1106 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: At the escape, very slow start. For me. 1107 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 3: I think it's You've got to establish a lot about 1108 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 3: the show, which is like, you have this world where 1109 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 3: these killer robots exist, and this one has hacked its 1110 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 3: programming and now it just wants to sit around and 1111 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 3: watch TV instead of take over the world. And the 1112 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 3: first two episodes do a lot of heavy lifting, a 1113 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 3: lot of exposition. Luckily, Alexander Scarsguard is the murder bot, 1114 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 3: or as they call them as SEC units, and he 1115 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 3: has the narration, which is a major part of the book, 1116 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 3: and at first I think it feels a bit clunky, 1117 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 3: but by the time I was into episode three, I 1118 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I think this is going to be 1119 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 3: something special. And now halfway through the season, I love 1120 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 3: I love the kind of retro futuristic version they have 1121 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 3: of a utopia. I spoke to Alex about this on 1122 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 3: our interview that we did for the for Denogi Pod 1123 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 3: kind of collab, and that was like something that really 1124 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 3: appealed to him was the fact that this is a 1125 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 3: show about TV and watching TV and the joy that 1126 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 3: TV can bring you, because that is what murder Boch 1127 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 3: chooses to do. I really love the other cast members. 1128 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 3: I think that's what I'm most kind of interested in 1129 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 3: right now because murder Bot's fun, but if you've read 1130 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 3: the books, you kind of really know murder Bot. Here 1131 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 3: we really get to expand on the relationships, the way 1132 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 3: that people would love in the future, or the way 1133 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 3: that people would have kids in the future. I also 1134 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 3: think that, yeah, by this point I've seen the whole season, 1135 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 3: But by this point in the season, like episode five, 1136 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,959 Speaker 3: that was when I started texting everyone and I was like, guys, 1137 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 3: you have to watch the show like it's actually something 1138 01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 3: really special. It's just how do you establish this world 1139 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 3: and world buildings so quickly so you can get to 1140 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 3: the fun stuff. But I've been very happy to see 1141 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 3: in the Escape Patch discord in our discord that people 1142 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 3: who have stuck with it are really enjoying it and 1143 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 3: I do think it is a great adaptation of these 1144 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 3: Martha World's novels, which are like very funny, very silly, 1145 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 3: like satirical sci fi that do play with these ideas 1146 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 3: of like AI and the idea of what dissentients mean, 1147 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 3: and it's you know, I'm also has no surprise, everyone knows. 1148 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 3: I'm also like I'm a little lover girl, you know, 1149 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 3: so like I love that this is kind of this 1150 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,439 Speaker 3: idealistic vision of what the future could be, even when 1151 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 3: we're in a dystopia as this is so yeah, I 1152 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 3: am loving it. 1153 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 2: I'm a murder Bot supporter. 1154 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 3: Sabrina Woo's in it, who I just think is so 1155 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 3: great and so funny. 1156 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 2: No, it's just a great cast. It's a great clast. 1157 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Jason, what are your thoughts. I, now that I've kind 1158 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: of digested I did not read the book. Now that 1159 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,479 Speaker 1: I've kind of digested with the tone of the show 1160 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 1: is because it opens up like a you know, like 1161 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: a like a sitcom, like. 1162 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 3: A sitcom, which I don't think even book readers were expecting. 1163 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: And so that took a little while to get used to. 1164 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: And then with that kind of processing of the tone 1165 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 1: of it, the first two episodes are tough because to 1166 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 1: your point, it does drop us in the world, and 1167 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: it it's not really until the end of the second 1168 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: episode that the story of the season really starts rolling 1169 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: with the introduction of the of the science team, and 1170 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 1: as you begin to understand their working relationship, their personal relationships, 1171 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,959 Speaker 1: and the way they relate to the to the second unit, 1172 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 1: and then it isn't really until episode three four that 1173 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 1: you begin to feel like, ah, I understand what this 1174 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 1: season is about. I'm glad that I stuck with it. 1175 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 1: And that's what I would say. Definitely, yeah, stick with 1176 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,439 Speaker 1: it because it's with it. It's only a half hour. Also, yeah, 1177 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 1: it's not like you're there for an hour each time. 1178 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 1: Trying to be like, when does the story start. 1179 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 3: Five years ago, before we were in the peak, you know, 1180 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 3: consumption era of TV. 1181 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what er we're. 1182 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,400 Speaker 3: In, but yeah, it five years ago. We were telling people, hey. 1183 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 2: Just watch the show. 1184 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 3: The first series isn't that great, but it gets really great. 1185 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 3: So I think having a show where it's like, hey, 1186 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 3: it's two episodes, you have to and they're still fun 1187 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 3: and it's still Alexander Skarska, but like two episodes, it's 1188 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 3: an hour of your time commit because I do think 1189 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 3: that once you get in there, this is a very 1190 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 3: unique vision of the future and it is a very 1191 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 3: different style of sci fi. 1192 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: I Will also says. 1193 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 3: It's kind of hopeful in a way a lot of 1194 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 3: dystopian sci fi we get isn't and it is a 1195 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 3: faithful adaptation of Welles's work, which, by the way, if 1196 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 3: you want to read All Systems, read which is the 1197 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 3: first novella from the murder Bot series, also known as 1198 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 3: About Diaries. It's one hundred and twenty eight pages, so 1199 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 3: you can even read it while you're watching those first 1200 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,439 Speaker 3: two episodes. Get a kind of lock on it. But yeah, 1201 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 3: I think this is really fun. I hope again Apple 1202 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 3: plus TV, we're back at it. Not even sponsored by 1203 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 3: Apple plus TV, but they are making really interesting, weird 1204 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 3: shows and they are. 1205 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 1: Committing to them. 1206 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,640 Speaker 3: Also, another thing I love about this is if you 1207 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 3: go to Alexander Scarsguard's page, and I couldn't believe this 1208 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 3: because I watched the show pretty closely, he shows himself 1209 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 3: getting into the practical murder Bot suit, which is essentially 1210 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 3: a pull on suit. 1211 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 2: When you watch. 1212 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 3: That on TV, you will believe you are watching like 1213 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 3: a highly animated CGI robot like Marvel style, but it's 1214 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 3: actually just a really incredible practical suit and I am 1215 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 3: a big fan of that. I'm excited for people to 1216 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 3: see the rest of the season too. 1217 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: I love that. I do love the look of it, 1218 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 1: look and feel of it. It reminds me of Star 1219 01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 1: Wars in it has a kind of seventies feeling trou 1220 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 1: future design. Like the spaceships are all rounded off. They're 1221 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 1: not like these kind of militaristic looking they look. It 1222 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 1: looks like a you know, like a flying like mood 1223 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 1: ring or something. Yeah, exactly. 1224 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 2: And it's like and everything's like rounded. 1225 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 3: There's lots like round boulders and tan colors and yeah, 1226 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 3: very Star Wars. 1227 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 1: And I really like that part of it. David as 1228 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: Mulchin as Graffin, who's kind of the early foil for 1229 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 1: a murder bot, is really wonderful and eerie as this 1230 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 1: more as the human who knows too much about technology 1231 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,679 Speaker 1: for murder bots. 1232 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 3: Liking you know, and they're so good together, Alexanda and David, 1233 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 3: it's incredible. 1234 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:52,800 Speaker 1: I love that you picked up on that. 1235 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 3: I think des Mulchin is really doing something special with 1236 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 3: that role. Also, you know, Aboo and Joel who I 1237 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,360 Speaker 3: were both people that I was like, keep watching it, 1238 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,599 Speaker 3: keep watching it. Abu said, you know, he did greatly 1239 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 3: dislikes a binge drop, but this show needed to be 1240 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 3: a binge drop. And I do agree that if this 1241 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 3: show had been a ten episode binge watch, I think 1242 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 3: the conversation and excitement around it right now would be 1243 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 3: like really big can I. 1244 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: Like, it's interesting to me the decision to like do 1245 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 1: the heavy exposition over two episodes because I don't know, 1246 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 1: do we really need this robot reprogrammed itself and now 1247 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 1: thinks for itself? Do we really need a heavy lift 1248 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 1: on that. I feel like that as a concept is 1249 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 1: so in the popular so in. 1250 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 2: The main Yeah, that understanding. 1251 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 1: Really know that all of that was super necessary. To me. 1252 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: It feels like we could have opened up with the 1253 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 1: science team arriving. I do love the science team. 1254 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 3: I'm not anything to bring them in soon now, but 1255 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 3: I yeah, I'm glad that half the season is out. 1256 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 2: I feel like people are really starting to vibe with ye. 1257 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 3: I think I do think it's funny because I do 1258 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 3: think this is an example where like when the first 1259 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 3: season of You, which had which by the way, we 1260 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 3: didn't even, you know, talk about just ended. But that 1261 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 3: show had already aired weekly on Lifetime and had kind 1262 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 3: of been a flop. Crazy to say that that was 1263 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,640 Speaker 3: a Lifetime show. But on New Year's Day, maybe like 1264 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 3: six seven years ago, Netflix bought the rights. They put 1265 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,679 Speaker 3: the whole show Binge season on Netflix and it became 1266 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 3: the biggest water cooler moment. And I think that something 1267 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 3: that the streamers are going to have to navigate is 1268 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 3: we have started to see if somebody like that usually 1269 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 3: does weekly, like Disney, puts a whole season out, we 1270 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 3: feel like maybe they're trying to bury it. But I 1271 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,840 Speaker 3: think there needs to be a conversation and an understanding 1272 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 3: with execs, with producers whatever that Sometimes you got to 1273 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,839 Speaker 3: show the show to people first, and your test audience 1274 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 3: has to say, like, would you rather would you have 1275 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 3: stopped watching this if you didn't get here? 1276 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 2: Does it need to be a binge watch? I think 1277 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 2: this show would have been really supported by that. But 1278 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 2: also the show still exists. 1279 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 3: There's still ten great episodes, and you know you're gonna 1280 01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,120 Speaker 3: be able to Now you can watch half the show 1281 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 3: and really get a feeling for it. And I think 1282 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,679 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of people who are really happy 1283 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,600 Speaker 3: they stuck with it, so I'm gonna keep encouraging. I 1284 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 3: think this is gonna be a secret slow burn hit 1285 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,680 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty five, and I think by the end 1286 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 3: of the season it really starts to feel like one 1287 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 3: of those shows where you're like, shit, this could be 1288 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 3: like there could be twenty seasons of this, like Star Trek, 1289 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,799 Speaker 3: like you really get into the world. 1290 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm rooting for it. 1291 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,080 Speaker 3: Also just want to shout out thank you to whichever 1292 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 3: of our super producers put this in. 1293 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,360 Speaker 2: It's written by Chris and Paul White. I interviewed them 1294 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 2: for the pod. 1295 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 1: They were great. 1296 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:51,679 Speaker 2: You can listen to that interview. 1297 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,840 Speaker 1: But I have to say this is one of. 1298 01:11:53,800 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 3: The most unhinged writing Cole and nineteen eighty eight incredibly 1299 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 3: guys hitting, subversive dream works animation that kind of came 1300 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 3: out at the same time as bugs like Nave Reversa 1301 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 3: to the Clumps. 1302 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 2: I mean, what more needs to be said? 1303 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 3: Nothing more about a boy one of like the classic 1304 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 3: Hugh Grant British adaptations of the famous book, the twenty 1305 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,639 Speaker 3: fifteen Cinderella movie, which by the way, is now looked 1306 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 3: upon as the best of the Disney Live action remakes, 1307 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 3: as it was songless, focused on character, great casting. It's 1308 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 3: very beloved in film. Twitter Circles now Rogue won a 1309 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 3: Star Wars story. 1310 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:35,560 Speaker 1: Ever heard of? 1311 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 3: Heard of it ever fucking heard us talk about every 1312 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 3: single week. One of the best written Star Wars that 1313 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:44,639 Speaker 3: we've gotten. Pinocchio twenty twenty two, absolutely deranged movie. Guys, 1314 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 3: If that is a crazy movie, Tom Hanks was in 1315 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:54,200 Speaker 3: his absolute uh what's the word his accent era? I 1316 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 3: would put it where he was doing a lot of accents. 1317 01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,640 Speaker 3: Same around the same time as Elvis, one of the 1318 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,479 Speaker 3: most crazy movies I've ever seen and criminally underrated. Correctly 1319 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:05,719 Speaker 3: put Mozart in the Jungle. 1320 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 1: Mozart in the Jungle is show that to your point, 1321 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't think people understood was on television. Yeah, Like 1322 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 1: it had gone two seasons before people realized that it 1323 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 1: was an actual show that was on, starring Gail Garcia, 1324 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:28,559 Speaker 1: bernal our Ittu, Mama Tambien King King, as well as 1325 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 1: Lola Kirk, Bernette Peters, Malkmintou. Underrated show, very underrated show. 1326 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 1: It was underrated while it was on, and I think 1327 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 1: it's still underrated. 1328 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 3: It's it's and you can watch it right now, I 1329 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 3: believe on Amazon Prime. But yeah, I mean what, I 1330 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 3: kind of love how out there their writing career has been, 1331 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 3: and I love that this really fits in that kind 1332 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:55,679 Speaker 3: of esoteric, strange, like incredible highs wild choices of that 1333 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 3: kind of Hollywood career that I think is what makes 1334 01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 3: a great Hollywood career. 1335 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, definitely let me check out. We will be 1336 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,120 Speaker 1: checking back in with it after the finale tomorrow and 1337 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,799 Speaker 1: extra revision we're naming the top ten sci fi movies 1338 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 1: that are not. 1339 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,679 Speaker 2: Star Wars not a Star Wars. 1340 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,400 Speaker 1: Join us for another popcorn pop out. That's it for 1341 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 1: this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x ray Vision is 1342 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 1: hosted by Jason Sepcion and Rosie Knight and is a 1343 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,400 Speaker 1: production of iHeart Podcasts. 1344 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman. 1345 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,560 Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abuzafar. 1346 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 3: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wag. 1347 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 1: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme 1348 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,120 Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kauffman. 1349 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,680 Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and 1350 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,599 Speaker 3: Heidi Our discorded moderate though