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Speaker 2: So we're here in La Man, how you feel.

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling great, man, I'm feeling blessed. I appreciate you, brothers.

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Speaker 3: Know that, Hey, that's the way that everybody's heart man.

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Speaker 3: Something right now. I know you're feeling good, great good.

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Speaker 4: It's good. But this this is just for decoration, nothing

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I was telling you off camera, Bro,

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Speaker 4: Showing love before, like once, like beginning pe Valley pe

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Speaker 5: Where does the story even start?

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Speaker 1: Because when in North Carolina, I wanted to go here yea,

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Speaker 3: For sure, Man, I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 4: Like I said this, this is the I would say,

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Speaker 4: Shout out to North Carolina Central University, where I began

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Speaker 3: Auditioned for this play? I did, and it changed my life.

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Speaker 4: Facts for sure? And to be honest, I have only

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Speaker 4: It's older, it's white, and it's very judgmental. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: They always said they don't got fucking one hundred dollars

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Speaker 4: And then the work that you're able to come to

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Speaker 5: I mean, do you think, let me ask, is it

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Speaker 3: It's a great another great question. Man, it will never die.

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Speaker 4: It's been around since the beginning of time, since before

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Speaker 4: dog like that's what she wants to do. Like TV

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Speaker 5: And so it's like live music verse listening to music.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, and it's like musicians who are going to get

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Speaker 3: That's never gonna.

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Speaker 4: Die because it's a craft, just like pottery is never

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and make it make do so.

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Speaker 4: Theater for me, I definitely want to go back to it.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to people who are going back doing Broadway

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Speaker 4: John David. They about to do pien or Lelo.

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Speaker 2: Joined that him and and did on that floor And.

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Speaker 4: That's like a play. That's like bringing theater, like my

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Speaker 2: But I kind of like this.

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Speaker 1: I killed I killed her on on Twitter for that

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Speaker 1: think he's super dope. So a lot of people don't

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Speaker 2: I saw a video online.

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Speaker 2: And then I was like, wait, he played the drums.

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Speaker 1: He comes from that different level, because that takes a

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Speaker 3: Day, bro, every day? Because that was a huge part

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Speaker 4: Uh, some people to this day like, yo, I saw

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Speaker 4: I'm not from there, but I'm from there, you know.

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Speaker 4: And so I decided to pull out them pots and pans.

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Speaker 4: I saw other people doing it, but I knew as

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Speaker 2: Ship, bro, as love you played.

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Speaker 1: You played the pots and pans to come see your

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Speaker 4: She came out here and see me.

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Speaker 3: And now she got the ring on the fingers she.

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Speaker 4: So I had to learn the etiquette of playing down

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Speaker 4: I bother you for this spot, bro, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Here every day.

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Speaker 4: I need this spot, so you learn what it is

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Speaker 3: So eventually I tell my wife this all the time.

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Speaker 4: My biggest dream, my biggest goal with that is to

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Speaker 4: but obviously getting my hands on. I can play any drum,

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Speaker 4: It makes sense of the piano. And I've had to

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Speaker 3: Musically inclined for show.

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Speaker 4: That's why the rapping on people Valley comes so natural

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Speaker 2: How long did it? So let's let's fast forward a

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Speaker 2: little bit to p Valley.

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Speaker 1: So this is when probably to my knowledge, your biggest

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Speaker 1: role obviously that most controversial role, right, the role that

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Speaker 2: Day, every day.

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Speaker 1: For you, how long did it take for you when

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Speaker 1: you have to like go back and forth in your

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Speaker 2: You know, mentally, how did you prepare for it?

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Speaker 1: The conversations you had with your wife obviously about doing it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like there's.

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Speaker 2: So many questions chat like yeah, like what was the

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Speaker 4: Know, I got this script, man, I got I got

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Speaker 4: Look, it ain't for everybody, bro, but it is. Yeah,

442
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 4: it ain't, but it is. You hear And so shout

443
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 4: out to my dog Denzel and Khalil because they they

444
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,960
Speaker 4: they say, you do what you want to do and

445
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 4: if you believe in that, we're here to support you.

446
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 3: Could we support those people too.

447
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 4: We may not be able to do it the way

448
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 4: you're doing it, but we know those people and we

449
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 4: support them. To similar conversation with my wife, obviously that becomes, uh,

450
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 4: you know, show business is a real thing, so it's like,

451
00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,200
Speaker 4: what are you willing to show?

452
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 3: And then what's the big inside of me? So business wise,

453
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 3: it has.

454
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 4: To make sense, and I think you know, we're going

455
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 4: to continue to make sense of what that is. You

456
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Because when you have an impact

457
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 4: on the culture that you didn't know you was going

458
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 4: to have before, now it starts.

459
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 3: To gain a different type of value.

460
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 4: So that conversation being ahead of that being like, you

461
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 4: know what, this character is going to change my life,

462
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 4: to change a lot of other people's lives too.

463
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 5: So you saw that within reading the script right away,

464
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 5: Dog Katori, that's beautiful foresight.

465
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 4: Well, Katori Hall is not one to play with. You

466
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 4: don't get pull of surprise winners every day. It's a

467
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 4: lot of fucking content out here, that's the thing. A

468
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 4: lot of content. But how much who talking Who's talking

469
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 4: about your content? Whose content is being talked about. Anybody

470
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 4: can be on a TV show, but is your show

471
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 4: go stand out? Are you go stand out as a character?

472
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 5: It's actual impact.

473
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 4: Reading that script, I said, Oh, this motherfucker goes stand out.

474
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 4: And now I got KATORI. I said, I read a

475
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 4: hundred scripts, thousands scripts and been on other TV shows

476
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,119
Speaker 4: all a lot of them.

477
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: So that's the thing.

478
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: I'm one of those familiar unfamiliar faces. So by the

479
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,239
Speaker 4: time I get to Katory Hall, I'm like, thank you,

480
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 4: thank you. Now I can show all my range, right,

481
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 4: watch what I do with it. And then we end

482
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 4: up turning into something that I even know it was

483
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: go turn into. And I had to be open and

484
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 4: willing to make sacrifices that I knew was going to be,

485
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 4: you know, start a lot of conversations that I knew eventually,

486
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to have a conversation with my son

487
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 4: about you know eventually and have him understand what the

488
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 4: work is that you're going to that As a thesbian,

489
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 4: you tell stories that are uncomfortable to tell because those

490
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 4: stories are going to make uncomfortable conversations and bring people

491
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,719
Speaker 4: into healing spaces. Right, if I can do that and

492
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 4: make some money.

493
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 3: Job done.

494
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like it's a blessing, bro

495
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 4: and my career, it takes a step further because of

496
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 4: the risk.

497
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 5: You know, people are probably think this is I'm trying

498
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 5: to be immature funny, and I'm not. How did you

499
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 5: be prepared prepared for that role? Because there's method acting,

500
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 5: there's ways to become a character. And again I'm not

501
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 5: an actor. I've just spoken to that, like.

502
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: You can't call a homie like you read these lines

503
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 1: for me and me and you gonna pray it like.

504
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 4: You, but we're not doing enough facts. I'm I'm way

505
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 4: past to read the lines with me days. My wife

506
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 4: does do help me with a lot of my auditions,

507
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 4: which now I'm getting direct office, which is great.

508
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 3: But actually one of my homies did help me with

509
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: that audition.

510
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 4: Shout out to my nigga, David Pegrim when he was

511
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 4: in New York and Harlem. Go look on YouTube see

512
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 4: how many damn views the audition got. And shout out

513
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: to my dog because he did that woman. It's funny

514
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 4: because he played on the Clifford too, and he said

515
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 4: the license don't make me fall the fuck out the

516
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: way he said, it's the way.

517
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 6: Go watch the ship, yo, y'all go run That motherfucker

518
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 6: up is on YouTube and I.

519
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 4: Did something what it's called audition to set. So you

520
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 4: see me do the audition and then you see that

521
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 4: same scene, but so shout out today.

522
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 1: It's actually a dope I did to do something like that. Yeah,

523
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,239
Speaker 1: I heard it and then actually show it.

524
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 4: And then that's how I went from doing the actual auditions.

525
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: Now you see where I booked the ship. I haven't

526
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 4: done all of my ship like that, but I do

527
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 4: the big ones because I want people to see.

528
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: It's a teparation.

529
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 4: Yeah it's obtainable, but yeah, that's how I prep Ford

530
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 4: by just like any other role, breathing and believing, understanding

531
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 4: what it is that.

532
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: I'm about to do with the work, right, you know

533
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and so.

534
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not about to be kissing on the homies

535
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 4: or those shit like that, but we I definitely have

536
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 4: to have myself in the mind state of understanding what's

537
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: about to happen.

538
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 3: So I know what love is, I know what.

539
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: Those feelings and emotions are, right, and so I can

540
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 4: have these conversations with people who are close to me

541
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 4: and say, damn, it's about to be a tough scene

542
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 4: to pull off because I'm not familiar with this, but

543
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 4: I know what this is.

544
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because you know, like I said, that

545
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: role is so powerful because the relationships that you have

546
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: on P Valley, right, was homie that came home tea

547
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: T T like it was always the guys growing up

548
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: that was always like ah on edge, like it was

549
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: with that. We can't bring him nowhere, he be tripping.

550
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: We're from the same you know what I'm saying. We're

551
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: from the US, So we know these type of guys

552
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: that are just around, like, yo, why.

553
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: Are you always on? So when that relationship comes across

554
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: on screen, it's.

555
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 3: Like, oh shit, a different insight.

556
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: Maybe that's where he was really internally.

557
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 5: Yes, and we angry about something and we.

558
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 3: Know that you went to high school with Little Murders. Yeah,

559
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 3: we went to high school with Uncle Clip.

560
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: I went to perform in art school.

561
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 4: Trust, so especially up top and see I'm from the South,

562
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 4: but that's far and in between. But you see it though,

563
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 4: you know, from your homies to your cousins, to your

564
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 4: family members, and so for me, we always show love

565
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 4: because that's what we was taught to do so and

566
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: then were the people that are surrounded Now, don't get

567
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: a twisted Did I come from using the F word?

568
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: Did I come from being one of those?

569
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 4: Absolutely obviously, But you got to change your mentality and

570
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 4: understand how that really hurts people within the community that

571
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 4: you love, those my homies, like that's my cousin, Like

572
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 4: that's whatever, and so Pea Valley was the main reason

573
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 4: for my second reason for not only storytelling, but I said,

574
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be able to be an ally and have

575
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 4: action behind it. It's not like I can just say, yo, Na,

576
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: that's my dog. Oh man, it's all good. I love

577
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: with you.

578
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: Whatever you got going on, you know what I'm saying.

579
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 4: But just nah, bro, I'm here to help tell your

580
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 4: story and hopefully help people have a different understanding them.

581
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 3: And they say, look, love is love, and it ain't

582
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: no reason for.

583
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: Us to trip on nobody unless they tripping on me,

584
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: unless you got bringing physical or mental harm to me

585
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 4: and my family.

586
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 3: Why the fuck am I tripping on you?

587
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now, I'll be honest. The

588
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: first season I loved that was on board. The second season,

589
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: the relationships got more in depth, it got intense. I said,

590
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: jail Far was about to lose said, I said, come on, man,

591
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: I can't be in the crib in the bed watching

592
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: this shit like what we doing.

593
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: But I love it because a lot of.

594
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: Women when I told him, Yo, we were sitting down

595
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: with you, the first question was work, Yo is he

596
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: really like he?

597
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: That was a great role.

598
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: So now that's a nod to your acting. First of all,

599
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: if somebody can't even really tell in real life, like, yo,

600
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: is he really gay? And I'm like, no, he's actually

601
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: married with kids, like and they're like, really they don't.

602
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, that happens in Atlanta a lot.

603
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh no, god, it happens all around the world.

604
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 5: Man, married than kids doesn't mean much.

605
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 4: It don't mean much for a lot of people. And

606
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 4: I wish it could just mean whatever people wanted to mean.

607
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 4: If that's your private lifestyle, you make it private. But

608
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 4: it's like, as a community, whatever is not for you.

609
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: Sometimes we just gotta I think, And obviously for me,

610
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not gonna act like there's certain things

611
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 4: like pedophilia.

612
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: I'm not fucking with you. If you say, you know,

613
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: we're not I'm not fucking with that.

614
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: Racism, all types of bullshit, I'm not fucking with that.

615
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: But if you just tell me that you happen to

616
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 4: love the same gender, what what? People?

617
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: That's why I think it's where when guys get offended,

618
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, why are you so offended by it?

619
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 4: Why are you so offended? Because trauma?

620
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 3: People have been traumatized by their experience.

621
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 4: And look what a little murder go through. I'm fictional.

622
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 4: Imagine what your real homie would go through if he

623
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 4: tried to come out. Imagine that if he just tried

624
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 4: to post a picture and he thugging, but he loving

625
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 4: up on his homie though, that's you what the fuck

626
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 4: he go through?

627
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: Good with this fictional cariag is going through. So I'm

628
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: trying to.

629
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: Break that and let people like man, let your homie

630
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 4: what they got to be, so somebody don't, unfortunately, which

631
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: has happened, become big t take their own life because

632
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: they can't be in a space and feel comfortable and

633
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: be out here. My wife, if she and Mimi Shaan

634
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: had a loved one take their life because they couldn't

635
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 4: be in a space and being comfortable on who they

636
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 4: are as heterosexual man, we don't got to worry about

637
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: too much. We don't know.

638
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: We still have our pressures, but it ain't that's a

639
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: whole different type.

640
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 4: Of a whole different type of pressure. Imagine your homie

641
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 4: and I don't know if y'all know somebody that's close

642
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 4: to you that something that one day you was just

643
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: like okay, bro, yeah, like we don't got to talk

644
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 4: about it.

645
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: But I've had I've had that before.

646
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 4: I've personally seen that within my family and with one

647
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: of my homes. You was like he was looking at

648
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: homie like, oh yeah, Or I.

649
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: Saw my homegirl came to show me a picture and.

650
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: Said yeah, and she's not trying to add him.

651
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 4: No, no, no, Like Yo, did you know nah? I didn't.

652
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 3: Well, he told me, well, you know, he not gonna.

653
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: Be tell me. They're not comfortable having that conversation.

654
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: You're not comfortable. So that's that's my thing. Bro. It's like,

655
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: but I feel you though.

656
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: If you gotta fast forward a little bit, sex scenes

657
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: can be uncomfortable.

658
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: It was like, yo, I love the show still. I

659
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: still think the season was great and I appreciate that,

660
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: but it was definitely some scenes where I was like

661
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: let me just get on my phone while they're doing

662
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: what they know.

663
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: What it's supposed to do that you are supposed to make.

664
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 5: So I'm reading Rest in Peace, Michael K. Williams's book

665
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 5: right now that just went out, and it discusses when

666
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 5: he was playing the Omar character in those early wire days.

667
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 5: He like, if we're gonna do this, we gotta go

668
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 5: all the way there, because Little Murdered Omar could all

669
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 5: be these characters. But if you don't full out see it,

670
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 5: it's not going to hit the same it's supposed to feel.

671
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: I don't want to say uncomfortable if that's offensive or not,

672
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: but it's supposed to make you be like who WHOA

673
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 5: wasn't wasn't expecting that change. We know Omar's gay, but

674
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 5: now when he's making out with a guy, it hits differently,

675
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 5: and that's what's necessary to put in those sex scenes,

676
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 5: Like you need to visually see it for that character

677
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 5: to really be like, oh he is that.

678
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: Imagine if I had just played a little Murders like

679
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: a caricature, if everything I did wasn't authentic. For one,

680
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: that community would have been offended, and for two, we

681
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't be talking about it the way we're talking about

682
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: it now.

683
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: So to be able to breathe and believe in much

684
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: love to Michael K. Williams.

685
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: One of the last pictures I got with him was

686
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: on the set of People Valley while he was with

687
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: my son and my mom. He had came to holler

688
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: at us and I had met Mike. You know, in

689
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: New York, you always hip hop head out out here.

690
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: He'll be by himself.

691
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: For New York, just just chilling and so shout out

692
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: to him.

693
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: Man.

694
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: But he paved the way and was fearless in his

695
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 4: work as well. But yeah, that was one of the

696
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: last picks that I have for him. But yeah, man,

697
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: you gotta be authentic with the ship in every character

698
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: you do. Anything you've seen me do, I try to

699
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 4: bring a certain level of just what I constantly say,

700
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: it's like that breathe and believe that sitting in it,

701
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: where it's just like this is him and these people

702
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 4: are They deserve to be paid homage.

703
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: I remember reading years ago will Smith told him that

704
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Denzel advised him not to take the gay role in

705
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: a six.

706
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: Degrees of Separation.

707
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: I played that role too.

708
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Denzel advised not to do it, Denzel said he

709
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: thought it would hurt his career, and then earlier this year,

710
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks and People magazine said he wouldn't do Philadelphia

711
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: today due to the inauthenticity of a straight guy playing

712
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: a gay guy.

713
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: M So, I thought that was interesting.

714
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: Obviously, Philadelphia with Tom Hanks one of the biggest roles

715
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: in his career.

716
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: I believe he wanted to Oscar.

717
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: For that role he did.

718
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: And then now you playing what I believe is an

719
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: iconic role in our culture and television, a gay, a

720
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: gay guy.

721
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Being a heterosexual male

722
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: man playing a gay.

723
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: Role so quick? This is something a lot of people

724
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: don't know.

725
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: I've actually played a gay role on stage before, which

726
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 4: is different. Theater spaces are more intimately different, your decision

727
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: making behind those roles, and like everybody's not about to

728
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 4: see this. I played Paul in Six Degrees of Separation.

729
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: I saw Will Smith's interview where he said he regret

730
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 4: not going full and committing out to it.

731
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: That was one of my inspirations.

732
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: I said, damn, all right, well I.

733
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: Gotta go all out. Then let me do this shit.

734
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 4: And I remember, like we didn't do it up until

735
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: like the last day of tech, like me and the

736
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: homie that had we kept kissing each other on the

737
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: cheek and the director was like, you guys, got a

738
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: kiss suck, you have to.

739
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: Do it, like you gotta just go for it.

740
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 5: Him, what's that conversation like with him?

741
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 4: It's like because he was a head of section man too,

742
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: He's like, and it was, I forget my homienames your

743
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: young white.

744
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: Dude any times I said pauls when I was verse.

745
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: None, because you're in that stage.

746
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: Man, the Paul ship is like fucking thirteen year olds

747
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: made that up. So it's just like you know what

748
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying. New York forty said, right right, But our

749
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: pops was wearing blouses and ship man. Yeah, he's out

750
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: here ted at love and ship like now we can't

751
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: do nothing. But niggas was having a great time fucking

752
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: bumps and ship like drugs man, yay, man Like stop

753
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: now it's Paul. You can't eat a hot dog, no

754
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: more nothing, man Like, damn, no more fun nigga like

755
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: any people in New York State, Oh yeah, cookout, nigga.

756
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 4: I can't even eat my hot dog.

757
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 6: Get out of here, niggas say Paul say you right,

758
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 6: you I got Nigga. I say, puppies choot all the

759
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 6: fucking time.

760
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, all Ica, shout out to my girl who played

761
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: all the Night on Pea Valley. Right, she let us

762
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: keep her dog for two weeks. I fell in love

763
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 4: with him. He's a great dog.

764
00:32:59,360 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: Great.

765
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 5: Can't have any We can't enjoy anything, no.

766
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 3: Shit unless you want to.

767
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: That's one thing I'm bringing to the tables, like, don't

768
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 4: let nobody judge who you are man, masculine, whatever, you're feminine, whatever.

769
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: And if you go be in danger, you don't want

770
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 4: to see that. You know what I'm saying. But on

771
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: another note, like I'm sorry I got off topic last,

772
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: but on the gate on the in two thousand, on

773
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: the gate on the on the note of playing a gay.

774
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: Character, right, I think Tom Hanks's.

775
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: Character is different than Little Murder's character, a lot different,

776
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: So I can understand his perspective on that. I like

777
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: I said, I was inspired by Will Smith to go

778
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: full out and play Paul because I said, let me

779
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: challenge myself as an actor. So by time it comes

780
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: to Little Murder, it's like, well, nine million people a week.

781
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: Might see this.

782
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 4: This is different so show business business side, you got

783
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 4: to try to make sense of that, and then what

784
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 4: are you willing to show? And so I think if

785
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 4: I look back on it, I've done my part. Twenty

786
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: years from now, I would say I did my job.

787
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 4: And I think people know this, people who are willing

788
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 4: to work with me and who understand what I'm trying

789
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: to do. Next, little murder is that role. I think

790
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 4: any role going forward is part of a different vibe,

791
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: different community. And I don't think I will take the

792
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 4: risk of doing another large role like that because of

793
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: what that was.

794
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 5: What I again, because you play like is it the

795
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 5: catch twenty two? You you played it too well, like

796
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 5: you are a little murdered to a lot of people.

797
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad he's gonna reign for a long time.

798
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: Wait till you see this next ship.

799
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: I do you know when did you see they cloned Tyrone?

800
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: That's coming out with me and Jamie Fox and John

801
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: Boyega and Tianna parents. And then I got Black Spartans

802
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: coming up, you know they? And then Chris Paul. Now

803
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 4: I gotta play Chris Paul. Yeah, he's real motherfucker, right,

804
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 4: And so that's enough running around, still running around this motherfucker.

805
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: I'm I've been working on the walk and shit, but

806
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: that's you know what I'm saying. You gotta get got

807
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: little walk, nigga. You know you got that walk when

808
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: he walked off.

809
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: Niggas always a look.

810
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: He's from North Carolina as well.

811
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: From Wake for shout out to wait for Us and

812
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: shout out to the cat Man, both of the next

813
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: two roles I'm playing. I'm representing two gentlemen from North Carolina,

814
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: Jimmy Ray and Chris Paul. So, yeah, I don't. I've

815
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 4: never been type casts, which is great, not even in

816
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: my theater round which I've always been blessed to play

817
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 4: lead roles and never typecasts. Always been able to play

818
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: different styles, different genres.

819
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's what's advice to up and coming actors or

820
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 5: even current ones of how not to get type casting?

821
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 5: Because that's got to be a tough thing. When you

822
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: get the chance to have such a pivotal role, you

823
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 5: could become that role for the rest of your life

824
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 5: if you don't play it correctly.

825
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 4: The thing is, nobody can write Little Murder again. Nobody

826
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 4: can do something that the way Katory Hall did it.

827
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: Something blessed for that so I'm not worried about that.

828
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: Even if they tried to come close to it, I

829
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: will and be the guy to play it. But the

830
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: way to not get type casts, in my opinion, is

831
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: to be open to playing other things, to know that

832
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: your arranged can extend, that you can get better every day,

833
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: that you don't have to settle for just.

834
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: A certain genre or a certain level of you know, work.

835
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: I feel like there's levels to it.

836
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so to not get typecasts for one breathing

837
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: believe that's you always go hear me say that, shout

838
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: out to Mahomie Miriam Hyman who taught me that. And

839
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 4: then to remain focused on what it is that you

840
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: really want to do. How far is it that you

841
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: want to take your career, how far do you want

842
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 4: to go as an actor, director, producer, And don't.

843
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: Box yourself in and then don't do shit that's.

844
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: Go de escalate your career, your career that's going to

845
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: make it go down. You know, don't go out here

846
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: and do a project that it's not going to be

847
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 4: a good look for you. And people know what I'm saying.

848
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 4: You know, no matter what if the script's not that good,

849
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 4: but you need a little bit of money, you might

850
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: have to pass on that money and try to find

851
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 4: and wait for the next job. So being patient is key,

852
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: and then understanding that you got a lot of range

853
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: within you.

854
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: You just got to know how to get it out there.

855
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: So where you right now? As far as season three

856
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: of P Valley, have y'all began getting script for it?

857
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know nothing, just like you don't know nothing.

858
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 4: Okay, we waiting, but I know I've got a strong

859
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 4: feeling that we're gonna get that renewal real soon.

860
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 2: Or it has to they can't.

861
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they keep it real. That's any show man,

862
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: that's not just Pee Valley. Most people will tell you

863
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 4: these networks keep shit tight, and I get it. It's

864
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: because there's so many decisions going on and until you

865
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 4: got that final like bingo, here we go, this is

866
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: what we go do.

867
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: This is what's happening. You know.

868
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: Then they release things out to us and let us know.

869
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 4: You know what's happening. But yeah, right now, we don't

870
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 4: know anything, and so that's why I'm working on other stuff.

871
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: How about as far as scheduling, if they say, listen,

872
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: we got season three for P Valley, about going to production,

873
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: about to start shooting facts, but then you got a

874
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: call for like a Marvel.

875
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: Movie or something that happens.

876
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: Do you do you pass up on bring a little

877
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: Murder back?

878
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 4: So no, So this is what happens stars you You

879
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 4: they have you in something that's called first position, right,

880
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 4: and so you get your projects clear through them either way.

881
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: So when you do like.

882
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 4: Individual pickups for next seasons. Now you whatever projects you

883
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: got coming on, you like, hey, yo, Jeff, stars, I

884
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: got this joint coming up.

885
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: I got enough time to do it.

886
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: Yes you do, okay? Or how can we make it

887
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: work with the schedule you got going on? And so yeah,

888
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: I've had to pass on some big ship. But they

889
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 4: they let you know, look it's gonna be worth it,

890
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 4: Like this little murder shit, just wait on. It's like

891
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 4: we got you. And that's what I appreciate about Katy

892
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: and the whole team over there, is that they knew

893
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: I was passing on opportunities, and so I think they

894
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 4: constantly elevated my character, put me in a position where

895
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 4: I'm on screen with Meg the stelling shout out to

896
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 4: the homie and yeah, so you miss out on certain things,

897
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: but it ain't gonna be that long, people, I ain't

898
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 4: gonna be twenty years. It's gonna be a couple of

899
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 4: years of your life. It will be worth it to

900
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 4: further other opportunities, and I'm blessed to be able to

901
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 4: do this movie.

902
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 3: Coming up another little mini series, so I'm doing other ship.

903
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 5: Can you speak to the casting of just the entire

904
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 5: show of p Valley, because outside.

905
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: Of the little murder, said Jesus Christ bro there's.

906
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: So every single character. I feel like there's not even

907
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 5: a main character. You Valley. Every single character has an

908
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: entire backstory, purpose, main focus, storyline. That's true, and it's

909
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 5: not a bunch of famous actors or actresses that we knew. Obviously,

910
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 5: they have to do things that are usually outside the

911
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 5: realm of film, whether that be dancing naked, that doing

912
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 5: certain sexual stuff. It's not the Thespian shit, right, How

913
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 5: did they knock that out of the fucking park with

914
00:39:52,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: every single character from Clifford to it's fucking amazing you

915
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 5: do a spin off with every single character on Valley.

916
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: You're right even down to the smallest ones, like they

917
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 4: come in the room. So Katory is obviously a huge

918
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: part of that She's known Nico for ten years, like

919
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: over ten years something like that. So Nico Annan, who

920
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: plays Uncle Clipper, has been riding with her for a

921
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: long time. But from my understanding, he still had the

922
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: audition okay, but he knocked it out the park. Katori

923
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 4: came and saw me in a show called Paradise Blue

924
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: in New York where I played this trumpet player who

925
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 4: was mentally ill. He was fucked up. Dominique Mariiso wrote

926
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 4: that shout out to her, and Katori said, I want

927
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: to work with you. So like seven months later, I shot,

928
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: I saw Pee Valley, I shot at her email and

929
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 4: the ball got rolling from there with that. As far

930
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: as everybody else, I mean all of us, we all auditioned,

931
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: but katory was always in the room. Casting director, shit,

932
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 4: don't get me a line man. There's so many of them.

933
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: But I don't, to be honest with you, they be

934
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: going blank for me. Shout out to the cast and

935
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: directors for pe Valley. But most importantly, I think Katoory

936
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 4: Hall knew her vision and I think she has a

937
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: lot of saying who she wants to bring into the room.

938
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 4: And it seems like everybody was just perfect for they

939
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 4: for their part. You know what I'm saying, that perfect perfect.

940
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, your story even as who you are

941
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: as a person, it is like your journey kind of

942
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 4: lines up a little bit with this, Like me being

943
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: a musician, me being an actor who's always had to

944
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: play kind of like these dramatic, complex characters, like these

945
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: heavy roles. Katy saw me in like y'all think a

946
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: little murdered something. This motherfucker blue I had to play.

947
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 4: It was fucked up, like he was all bad. And

948
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: so Katory saw me do that on stage and was like, yeah,

949
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 4: he can do that. He can he can see somebody

950
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 4: have to take their life in the car and tell

951
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 4: that story. And so.

952
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: The song the record, did you actually write that those

953
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: are your boss or did.

954
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: Man shout out to my dog new Money, shout out

955
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 4: to David Fuller I believe is his name, shout out

956
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: to b Sims and d hitch Devin Hitchcock. That's why

957
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: I don't do that, but shout out to my nigga

958
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 4: New Money and Twine more and he know why for

959
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: a special reading. So first season we trying to figure

960
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: out who about to write these songs? Right, They trying

961
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: out a couple of different people. New Money comes up

962
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 4: to me. He's a chef on set, dreads thugg it.

963
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: He's like, yo, I want to write for the Little Murder. Bro.

964
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 4: Like I rapped.

965
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: I was like, whereas I gonna spit something for me.

966
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna record you real quick.

967
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 4: I record him, show it to Torri Patrick. They hired

968
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 4: take him off the fucking food shit, quit him in

969
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 4: the writer's room. That's crazy, you know what I'm saying.

970
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: And now he writes songs for a Little Murder. But

971
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: he really about that though. I can tell you know,

972
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: he really cut from that shit. Like he called little

973
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: Baby and them fucking dominic and their names nigga. He

974
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 4: with them his little cousin or some shit. But he

975
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: has a gift, bro. And I said, man, all you

976
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: need is the right opportunity, bro. And so most of

977
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: the songs that you hear, he had a huge influence

978
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: on him. Shout out to those other writers as well.

979
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 4: But the Stallion verse, which is my favorite verse.

980
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: That's all my dog New Money, What's what's crazy about?

981
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 5: That? Is like, and I don't want to ship on

982
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 5: shows like Empire because I think there were some great

983
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 5: records that came out of Empire, but they had the

984
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 5: whole music industry working on them. Shits and Season one

985
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: and p Valley. One of the biggest surprises was like, oh,

986
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 5: this music is good, Like these could be real fucking records.

987
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 5: So I was thinking they were on the same time

988
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 5: as Empire. Everyone behind the scenes, real rappers, was working

989
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 5: on that ship. So the fact that you say that

990
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 5: and he's coming up with that ship that I think

991
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 5: is better than Empire's music.

992
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: Hey man, when like real chef on the set, chef

993
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: set that's cold with the bars. Like I said, the

994
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 4: other homies they are I think been you know ghost

995
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 4: pins for a minute doing their own things. But you know,

996
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: a couple of these gentlemen, that's what they do, Like

997
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: they write for shows and shit, but they not all

998
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: like big names and well known and new. That was

999
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 4: really his first time getting into the ghost writing space.

1000
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 4: And then for me when I get in the booth,

1001
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: I just bring my flavor to it. All the ad libs,

1002
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: that's all me, and then just an adolest the deliveries.

1003
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 5: How MU sure that difference of becoming a little Murder

1004
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 5: character but also becoming the little Murder rapper like, oh,

1005
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 5: he would deliver it because he's this type of character.

1006
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 5: He would deliver a rap this way.

1007
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: It's a it's the same thing going to Obviously, I

1008
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: bring myself into it and how I would deliver it

1009
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 4: as a as a rapper, but not how a little

1010
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: murder do this ship. So even within my tongue, that's

1011
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 4: why even when niggas meet me and sh it's like,

1012
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: oh a little murder on sound like of course, motherfuckers

1013
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: Like I don't sound like a little murdered.

1014
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 2: I don't cameras and lights over here, I don't wear.

1015
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: Go to you know, all that ship. And that's him though,

1016
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 4: that's his style. So that's how I accept this little

1017
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 4: murder ship.

1018
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 3: This is how he'd do.

1019
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: So when I do pop him in, you know, shout

1020
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: out to the I always listen to a lot of

1021
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 4: key glocks of the world, the Black Yellow Cue, money

1022
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 4: Bag yo, all those oh cats within that Memphis area.

1023
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would listen to them every day.

1024
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: Get that slang, get that they all.

1025
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 3: Got that flat They just rocking that ship like it's going.

1026
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 4: But then I said, well, what can I do to

1027
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: elevate it? What can I do to make people really

1028
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 4: fuck with this motherfucker. So shout out to my guys

1029
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: for the pen But if you was to hear what

1030
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 4: we call top liners right where it's like they do

1031
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 4: a little track, yeah, and you hear what it sounds like,

1032
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 4: and then for me, it's now I'm gonna go ahere

1033
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: and put my ship on there. So I'm always been

1034
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: blessed to be able to elevate the tracks. Shout out

1035
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: to Matt Head, my boy jumper down there, and our

1036
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 4: two engineers and our music supervisor down in Atlanta. So yeah,

1037
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 4: it was it was easy to not easy. It was

1038
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: a process. Coultory is very particular. You would have to

1039
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: do that song fucking twenty times if she all the publishing. No, no,

1040
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 4: she does not have all the publishing.

1041
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: We uh, what we do. What we did is everybody

1042
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: get their little deal, you know.

1043
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: Shout out to stars and shout out to my lawyer

1044
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: for making that happen on my team, you know what

1045
00:45:59,680 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1046
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: So I've been blessed to get a little deal.

1047
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 4: But you know, it's a lot of people that goes

1048
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: into these things, and so everybody got to be blessing

1049
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: and be a part of.

1050
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 5: Something I wanted to ask since we're on the publishing topic,

1051
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 5: because I don't know much about the actor world. I know,

1052
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 5: of course we know actors get fees to get paid facts,

1053
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 5: but is there any type of back end percentage? How

1054
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 5: does that standard actor actress contract usually go?

1055
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 4: So you are, you have what it's called a union,

1056
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: so you have to sag after union, which if you're

1057
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: going to be on the show like Pe Valley and

1058
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: playing a role at the level that I'm playing it,

1059
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: you have to be part of that union. And so

1060
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: the thing Donpe think about Atlanta is that it's a

1061
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 4: non work state, like non union work state. You don't

1062
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: have to be a part of a union to work

1063
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: in Atlanta. So that's the dope think about that. But

1064
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: to play the role like I said I'm playing, you

1065
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: have to be part of this union. So what that

1066
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: union does is make sure that you get paid a

1067
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 4: certain amount.

1068
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 5: And who is like the Jimmy Hoffer of the sagu.

1069
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 4: Right now? Right, so even to think about Jimmy Hoppins,

1070
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 4: you ever you ever heard of the fucking the trucks? Right?

1071
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 4: What's the ship that he had? Your teamster? So you

1072
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 4: know they do all the TV ship till this day gangs,

1073
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: mafia ship. When you come out your trailer, most likely

1074
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 4: it's gonna say team showing that motherfucker most likely. So

1075
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 4: he has his union, which is crazy. I don't know

1076
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: who's that person for SAG, but they shout out to

1077
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: them though, because they make sure we get that bread

1078
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 4: on time. And so you get your fee, which is

1079
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 4: negotiated with you and your team. Everyone's fee is not

1080
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: the same some people. But the great thing about the

1081
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: industry now is that a lot of more inclusion has

1082
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 4: been happening. Women are now getting paid the same amount

1083
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: as men, and black actors are working our way up

1084
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 4: to getting paid with white actors are getting paid. So, uh,

1085
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: you get your contract, you work out your deal, and

1086
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: then you get residuals, and so SAG after they make

1087
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 4: sure that you get the residuals, they go track them down.

1088
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: They them to you. It's mailbox money. Sometimes it's fucking

1089
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: ten cents. Sometimes it's seven thousand dollars, right, and so

1090
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: it's funny. Shout out to my dude who played Rufio

1091
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 4: back in the day. He do this jawing on his

1092
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: Instagram where he show you his residual check. He'd be

1093
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 4: like all right from Hook From Hook, I forget my

1094
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: man's name, but that's my favorite movie though. But he

1095
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: do this joint where he's like, Okay, I can get

1096
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: McDonald's today with this check.

1097
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 6: You can hear something okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1098
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 4: I might be able to go, you know.

1099
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: So it's a little vacation.

1100
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 5: It's money in your sleep bar by Van Eys. I

1101
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 5: think if you walk in with a cent residual check

1102
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 5: as an actor, they'll give you free drinks for today. Yeah,

1103
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 5: like if you only get one cent off whatever you did,

1104
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 5: you have to make one cent.

1105
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's hard.

1106
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: I got a couple of them. I got to bring

1107
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: that in there.

1108
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1109
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 5: I saw the headlines happening with el Rica, who plays

1110
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 5: Autumn on the show. Yeah, said she's not coming back

1111
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 5: for season three. Was that something you knew? Was that

1112
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 5: something that was discussed amongst the.

1113
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 4: Cast or it wasn't discussed amongst the cast at first.

1114
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 4: I don't think everybody knew. Elrica probably decided to tell

1115
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 4: who she wanted to tell. We're all close, like I

1116
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 4: was saying, But yeah, man, it's it's a bittersweet. You know.

1117
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 4: You want to see people obviously flourish and do other things.

1118
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 4: But you want to keep the family tight and keep

1119
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 4: people around. But I wish nothing but the best for

1120
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 4: el Rica. Shout out to Elrica. She was kind of

1121
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: like her god dog parents. When she go to London,

1122
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 4: she let us keep her little dog Biggie, and he's wonderful.

1123
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 4: He's great, cute ass dog that we like to have

1124
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 4: around every now and then. But al Rika made a

1125
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 4: decision I think is best for her. Yeah, and I

1126
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: think you have to do that in this industry.

1127
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: The storyline was great too.

1128
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: Storyline is great.

1129
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 5: Almost even appeared like in the beginning she was going

1130
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 5: to be the main character and then everything changed.

1131
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 4: Toy has a way of making sure that everybody has

1132
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 4: a storyline. Everybody's storyline is pivotal, even down to the

1133
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 4: smallest character like Toy right where.

1134
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: She's gonna be out it season three.

1135
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 4: About to go nuts, right like. And then some of

1136
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: these new characters that we get, like Roulette and in

1137
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: Psalm's character Whisper. So there's a lot of dope characters.

1138
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: And so although we'll miss all the Night, I think

1139
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: there's other storylines that can still continue to carry pe Valley.

1140
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 4: And I think that I was about to say I

1141
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: was about to suck up and say the wrong name.

1142
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 4: But Alarica is going to have a great career. She's

1143
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 4: already you know, I know a lot of people know

1144
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: her from Pea Valley, but she has a lot of

1145
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 4: Harry Potter fans. She got a lot of fans prior

1146
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 4: to that for other projects that she's done, So she's

1147
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: going to continue to do great work.

1148
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 5: It's funny bring up those characters. Does Katory have any

1149
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 5: background within the strip club culture? Because the strip club

1150
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 5: culture is a very big genre if you that is

1151
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 5: not just dancers, it's the whole world. Because we were,

1152
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 5: you know, we were talking about Little Murder's character and

1153
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 5: what he represents in Tea and everything. I feel like

1154
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 5: the strip club. I feel like she humanized the strip club, right.

1155
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 5: She brought every single point that could bring somebody to

1156
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 5: a strip club and that backstory. Yeah, so I've never

1157
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 5: does she have any history in that? Like to write that,

1158
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 5: I feel like you have to know every last detail

1159
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 5: of whether it is abuse from your childhood, whether it

1160
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 5: is just a look to make some money, whether it

1161
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 5: is some shit you hiding and you feel like you

1162
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 5: could be accepted in this place, Like that's such a

1163
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: depth in the strip club that I just don't think

1164
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 5: people understand.

1165
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, she you know, she's from the South, She's from Memphis.

1166
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 4: She's really from that place. If you hear Katy talk,

1167
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 4: if you've ever seen her, she is full of that.

1168
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 4: Like when I see Katori, I see Pete Valley, I'm like,

1169
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: damn she you know. And then me just going down

1170
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 4: to like Alabama a couple of weeks ago, I.

1171
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, people ale to really be onto some shit.

1172
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 4: Like I grew up in North Carolina and the part

1173
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 4: of North Carolina I grew up wasn't that political? Wasn't

1174
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 4: that southern? Like the way the South is like, I mean,

1175
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: Chuck A. Lisa is the fictional place. But I think Katuria, Yeah,

1176
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: she has a lot of influence coming from where she

1177
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 4: grew up.

1178
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: She grew up in the strip club culture.

1179
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 4: She's never been a dancer from my knowledge or understanding,

1180
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 4: but she knows dancers. She's had real experience with them,

1181
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: done tons of interviews with them, and so she's done

1182
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 4: her homework.

1183
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: But also she just writes what she hears. Yeah, that's

1184
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: the type of writer.

1185
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 4: I consider her one of the August Wilson's of Our Time,

1186
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 4: where she writes.

1187
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: It the way she hears it. That's what he did.

1188
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: Like when you read his scripts.

1189
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 4: It's like, damn, that's how they talking my bomber shop

1190
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 4: with us, how they talk down here.

1191
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 3: So you know she's really good at that.

1192
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people don't. When we say

1193
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 5: strip club culture, we know what it means. A lot

1194
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 5: of people that don't just think all you go into

1195
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 5: the titty bar to throw cash, like, no, it's a

1196
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 5: real community. Like people make fun of us when we say, oh,

1197
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 5: strip club has the best food, and when you hang

1198
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 5: out there, you really get to know people in the

1199
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 5: amount of fucking stories, right, everybody lead, Like even down

1200
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 5: to Mississippis character in season two when we got her

1201
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 5: whole backstory came from a privileged money type of shit.

1202
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 5: You do meet that type of stripper. Two, Not every

1203
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 5: stripper is somebody that was poor and just had to

1204
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 5: do whatever the fuck. It's so many different ways that people,

1205
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 5: not just dancers, down to Clifford, down to a bartender,

1206
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 5: down to the customer, down to a character like Little

1207
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 5: Murder where he'll feel more accepted in that environment than

1208
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 5: anywhere else. Like I don't want to use lost I

1209
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 5: think is the wrong word because it could come across

1210
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 5: the meaning. But people trying to find themselves just go

1211
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 5: straight to the strip club because it is the place

1212
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 5: that you get accepted the most. As much as it's

1213
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 5: the most judged probably occupation, it's the least judgmental place

1214
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 5: to some degree when you get there.

1215
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: And I love that about this club too.

1216
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 4: You go to the especially the good ones like Magic

1217
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 4: say they're gonna have a DJ. That's talking shit if

1218
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 4: you're not throwing no money.

1219
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 5: I've talked to strippers and I've talked to women that

1220
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 5: are in corporate. When they come home, they have the

1221
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 5: same exact caddy conversations. Yeah, there's no difference, like it

1222
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 5: just shows it's just humanized. A strip club to me,

1223
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 5: exactly really shows to it.

1224
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1225
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to know how to tip. That's what

1226
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 4: I've learned to respect from Pee Valley is that, for one,

1227
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 4: you got to respect what it is that they're doing

1228
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 4: on that pole. That's some athletic some shit, But you

1229
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: can't even really.

1230
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: Doing all of those Because I love her from Snowfall.

1231
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: All of them have doubles, all of them also have

1232
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: experience on the pole as far as being trained and

1233
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 4: working and doing so.

1234
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: Most of the dancers on p Valley, all of them

1235
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 3: do a lot of that work.

1236
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: But they also just like you have a double for

1237
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 4: a fight scene or something like that, you have doubles

1238
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: come in and do that work.

1239
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 3: And so I think some of.

1240
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 4: Them could probably do all the routines, but it's like

1241
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: you got to do that five six times times you tie.

1242
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: Now you can't and act out the rest of the

1243
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 4: scene or do the rest of your work that day.

1244
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: So shout out to nobody doubles, but also just the

1245
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 4: girls who put in that work. Sadis Brandy Man. Brandy

1246
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 4: is a monster, yo. Shout out to my homie Brandy Evans.

1247
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 4: She definitely put in.

1248
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: A lot of work.

1249
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: Being you know, just a dancer background, but not a

1250
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: pole dancer, right, but she was willing to kind of

1251
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: go all the way there when she climb up to

1252
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 4: the top a lot of those scenes.

1253
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: That's her how obviously her her boyfriend being on the show.

1254
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 5: But the miracle Watts aspect being brought in, do you

1255
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 5: know how that develops? Because I know y'all are not

1256
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 5: in any scenes together.

1257
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: If I remember, we don't have any scenes together.

1258
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. I had one scene with Tyler this year that

1259
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: was crazy. It was like in and out and I

1260
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: was snapping in that scene. But Miracle, which is dope, dope.

1261
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: I think addition to the cast, she did her thing.

1262
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 4: Obviously she has a background within that world and bringing

1263
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 4: her her wisdom to it and what she could to

1264
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 4: the road because Toy fuck with her. And I don't

1265
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 4: know if her and Tyler was dealing with each other

1266
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: prior to that or what, but they obviously it may

1267
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 4: make sense, you know what I'm saying that they developed

1268
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 4: a relationship that they have and it's just dope. You know.

1269
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 4: To see it off screen and on screen, it's like,

1270
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 4: oh shit, that's hard. So shout out to them for

1271
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: you know, finding that, but also bringing that chemistry on

1272
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: set where it's like those scenes were dope. You know.

1273
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 4: One of my favorite scenes when they liked the cigarette

1274
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 4: at the same time. I don't know if people peeped that,

1275
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 4: but they when they first meet each other, they liked

1276
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 4: the cigarette at the same time. But it goes focused

1277
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 4: to a miracle and I mean stays focused on Tyler. Actually,

1278
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 4: you see Miracle kind of in the background, her little

1279
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 4: flick and it's just hard. And then they had a

1280
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: conversation about them leaving. So I think that addition was great.

1281
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 4: We saw how it ended, seeing she had to put.

1282
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: My man in the trunk.

1283
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so put a blade in his ribcage.

1284
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 4: Right.

1285
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: So now I'm just I'm anxious because I don't even know.

1286
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, what's about to happen?

1287
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 4: Like, I want to see what's going to happen with

1288
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 4: that storyline, particularly, But damn that she was.

1289
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: She was so I didn't see that. That was a curve ball.

1290
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: I didn't see that coming.

1291
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: That's a great kept.

1292
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: They kept showing her looking and know I was like,

1293
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 2: it's something I don't fishy about.

1294
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: Something ain't right.

1295
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: But I wasn't expecting that.

1296
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 4: You weren't expecting that same thing. When we was reading,

1297
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, she something ain't right with her,

1298
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 4: but oh shit.

1299
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 3: It is one of the moments. But yeah, it was dope.

1300
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 5: Now that your wife is not here, have any of

1301
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 5: y'all done what he did? Pictureed in Mississippi when he

1302
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 5: was sucking another girl.

1303
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 4: Look at.

1304
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: My wife is right down that she's still can hear,

1305
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: but look I have.

1306
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 4: I've had that conversation though yeah, back in the day, man,

1307
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 4: I done had a situation where you would have John

1308
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 4: and then you picture somebody else. It's a real thing

1309
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: and just don't don't so until you find your one.

1310
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: That's probably ain't gonna happen. But that happens. That happens, folks.

1311
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: And it's not that she wasn't making that up. Toy

1312
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 4: ain't the only person I thought about that her. That

1313
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 4: shit happens, but it was fucking with Domond though it

1314
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 4: really sent him in a different place. I love that

1315
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 4: storyline too. Domon in Mississippi and like that shit complex man,

1316
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 4: you know, her whole relationship.

1317
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: With with Derek and not pulling the gun. You know

1318
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: all of that.

1319
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: Somebody got to killed him already.

1320
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 4: Man, somebody might have to buy it.

1321
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: Go do that might have murder with Harry I went.

1322
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 4: I love Jordan, the actor who plays you know, incredible.

1323
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 4: He seems like he's a great act little murder to

1324
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 4: go body there sign your where.

1325
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 5: He plays an amazing asshole, like he's just a oh.

1326
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: I hate that guy, and then he's the nicest guy

1327
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: you ever met. There's always them type of characters, like

1328
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: when you meet.

1329
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 4: Him, Hey, y'all, how you doing.

1330
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, it's just the nicest guy. Get you a

1331
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 3: hug and ship like all.

1332
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: You're an asshole.

1333
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah you got a little bit of you got a

1334
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 4: little something mean. But all of them, all the characters

1335
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 4: on Pea Valley, when you meet them in person, are

1336
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 4: probably like one hundred percent totally different than the actual character.

1337
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: Nico does not cross dress or wear riggs and nails

1338
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 4: and his his uh daily life. He's also six '

1339
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 4: five and from Detroit. And it's like, you don't want

1340
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 4: to mistake this guy, you know what.

1341
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, don't make a clipper joke if you want,

1342
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 5: don't let the.

1343
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 4: Nails in their hands ship fool you, like, bro, he

1344
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 4: that's what that can get you can that can happen

1345
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 4: to yourself. You can get yourself slaped today. So everybody's

1346
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: pretty different than their character, but everybody brings something to it.

1347
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: Man, all the great storyline, Yeah, definitely for sure.

1348
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 5: Do you think, well, how does that work with streaming?

1349
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 5: Because I could understand you would get residuals, like say,

1350
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 5: if you were on a sitcom and it kept playing

1351
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 5: on TNT or whatever. How does that work with streaming?

1352
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 5: Because we're paying a fee two stars. How do they

1353
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 5: calculate that? Because TV and streaming are now different.

1354
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 4: Shout out to all the streamers, but they also getting

1355
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 4: a bag off of that ship. We're how music and

1356
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 4: films bag and it's not equal. You know, you're not

1357
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 4: getting what you probably may deserve. And I'm sure even

1358
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: some of them trying to figure it out at the top, like,

1359
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 4: wait a minute, who's getting what? You know what I'm saying,

1360
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 4: So streaming services make a lot of money, and there is,

1361
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 4: from my understanding, no thing out there right now that

1362
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 4: it says you get a certain amount off the streams

1363
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 4: or the residuals. They just they write it within your

1364
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 4: contract that you get. You know, some of them don't

1365
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 4: give you residuals, but some most like you said, the

1366
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 4: blue Bloods of the World and the Chicago pds and

1367
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 4: those type of shows on national TV, You're going to

1368
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 4: get residuals pretty often, and they pay.

1369
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 3: They do really well at paying those residuals.

1370
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 4: Those networks, the netflixes and the Stars of the World. Yeah,

1371
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 4: you get residuals, and sometimes they come in like lump sums.

1372
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, big lump sums, which is dope.

1373
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 4: You go a couple months and not see nothing, but

1374
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you got thirty bands coming

1375
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 4: in the bank. You know what I'm saying. So residuals

1376
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 4: are nice to have, but as far as like how

1377
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 4: much we actually deserve and all our dude, you know, Oh.

1378
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: I think they still figuring that shit out. But I'm

1379
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: not complaining.

1380
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 5: It's such because we've talked about with music, how maybe

1381
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 5: it should be separated, because if I sign up for

1382
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 5: Apple Music and only listen to one specific artist, they

1383
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 5: should probably get more of a cut from my ten dollars.

1384
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 3: Then.

1385
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 5: Now I signed up for Stars, man, you know, they

1386
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 5: have movies on there that I like, But for the

1387
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 5: most part, I signed up for Hour, Pe Valley and

1388
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 5: Raising Camp. But that's really all I watch on Stars.

1389
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 5: So I don't know if my twelve dollars should be

1390
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 5: go across the same one cent everywhere exact. Yeah, I

1391
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 5: feel like it should go directly to be to p

1392
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 5: Valley because you have the data that sees that's what

1393
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 5: I watch. I don't watch nothing else on there.

1394
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 3: Sounds like you might need to get a job.

1395
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 5: It sounds like I would never take one.

1396
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 4: It sounds like they might need to hit your line

1397
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 4: and put you on some consulting type ship because I've never.

1398
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 5: Would I would have them lose money, yeah, because I'd

1399
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 5: go for the actors what they need, right, But if.

1400
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 4: No, that's that's but we need something like that though,

1401
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 4: And I think people fight for those type of platforms

1402
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 4: obviously to get their bread. Shout out to the homie

1403
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 4: from like who did the show on HBO? The girl

1404
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 4: who she was like she wasn't selling her show and

1405
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 4: she could own it. I forgot the name of it.

1406
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 4: You remember, I'm talking about pretty Baby?

1407
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 5: Uh the title did that?

1408
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 3: Shout out to Jay.

1409
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 5: They also pay the most out As far as stream will,

1410
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 5: we did.

1411
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 2: We didn't support Title enough.

1412
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 3: Really, the coach we didn't. She had since day one,

1413
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: so you still have time.

1414
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: I heard you talk. That's my family.

1415
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 5: Title made the mistake of their marketing plan when when

1416
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 5: it was launched, because they put a bunch of millionaires

1417
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 5: and billionaires on stage and said boohoo were not getting

1418
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 5: paid enough. And we was like, now, while they were right,

1419
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 5: I agreed with them, but as the average consumer, that's

1420
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 5: not going to make me want to give you twelve dollars, right,

1421
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 5: So it was like, wait, hold on, I'm looking at whole.

1422
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 5: What's the dudes that wear the masks? And shit, why

1423
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 5: am I blanking?

1424
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: He wears masks.

1425
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 5: They're daft punk, Like daft punk is up there.

1426
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nikki, everyone was there when that happened, that first appearence, and.

1427
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 4: They all think so.

1428
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 5: And it was a brilliant idea that each of these

1429
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 5: artists had actual stake in it and they could do

1430
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 5: exclusives and just go through that. It's just how they marketed.

1431
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 5: They thought the average consumer was going to be like, oh,

1432
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 5: I need I need these millionaires to make more money.

1433
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 5: I feel bad for them. It's like dog and I'm

1434
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 5: twelve dollars.

1435
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 3: A lot for me.

1436
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 5: That's lunch.

1437
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 4: Hey, twelve dollars every month with all the others some

1438
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 4: sscriptions and adds up shout out to the title. I

1439
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 4: think what Apple did? They just made it convenient. It's like,

1440
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 4: as soon as you turn on your phone, we're going

1441
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 4: to write this little app right the way you can,

1442
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 4: you know, and now you're paying this ninety nine a month.

1443
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 5: You have every Their their strategy was brilliant to make

1444
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 5: the hardware that we all have to buy, and then

1445
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 5: every app after that was convenienced.

1446
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: It's a convenience that the iPhone years ago, the podcast

1447
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: Apple was already on.

1448
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what the podcast was, right.

1449
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 4: And it's on there now. You can just go listen

1450
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 4: to your ship, y'all ovious seen mister Robot. Yes, so

1451
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 4: I did it. I had a little recurrent role on

1452
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 4: season two of that. But doing that show that the

1453
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 4: kind of play on it a little bit was like

1454
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 4: everything is everywhere, like.

1455
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 3: These motherfuck these Apple Look, we all got one. I

1456
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 3: got to Whole Lives is on it, your whole Live

1457
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 3: pH on.

1458
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: It's just the black mirrormber black mirror. This is a

1459
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: black mirror.

1460
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 4: That's it. And so it's just like Apple kind of

1461
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 4: had the up on all the other platforms. So it's like,

1462
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 4: oh yeah, the Spotify's and the titles of the world,

1463
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 4: you got to download that on your damn Apple phone.

1464
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 4: And so it's like now you got all three of them.

1465
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 4: But my wife, she's an avid user a title. I

1466
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 4: will say it has its advantages.

1467
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's a better streaming service period.

1468
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 4: It's hard, Like you look at it, it's hard, like

1469
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 4: the animation shit they have on there, and then you

1470
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 4: know you know, a lot of black people got stake

1471
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: in it.

1472
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: So yeah.

1473
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: So as far as jayl Fonts, what's your your life like, like,

1474
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: how has your life changed with the success of Pea

1475
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: Valley as far as like, you know, your time and

1476
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: being with your wife and kids, and you know, it's

1477
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: good to be busy always, but it also affects other areas.

1478
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1479
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 4: The dope thing about my lifestyle is that it's been

1480
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 4: pretty consistent for the past fifteen years. I've always been away,

1481
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 4: but I always come home. I'm always working, I'm always

1482
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 4: so to see my son. I got to go to

1483
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 4: North Carolina at least twice a month when I was

1484
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 4: in New York to come see my fiance now wife.

1485
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 4: I had to travel back and forth to California three

1486
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 4: four times, you know, you know, I mean once or

1487
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 4: twice a month. If I could, she would have to

1488
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 4: travel to me. So we're used to that. My son's

1489
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 4: used to me being on the road, you know what

1490
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So that hasn't changed. Well, now has changed.

1491
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, damn, daddy famous Now like when you

1492
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 4: go out, can't just be hanging out and everybody want

1493
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 4: to take pictures and all those things. My work ethic

1494
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 4: is still the same. You know that that ain't changed

1495
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 4: since day one. I'm kind of just like, nah, I

1496
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 4: need to make at least five hundred m's off of Storyteller,

1497
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 4: And now I'm on the cannabis thing, where it's it's

1498
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 4: like that's a whole different journey and wanting to push that.

1499
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 4: So the grind is still the same, but the protection

1500
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 4: is different. You know. The my wife she once said

1501
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 4: to me, and I say this before, what type of

1502
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 4: provider you want to be? You know, can you take

1503
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 4: care of things like well, you got to make that

1504
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 4: up in your mind. And so when you have more

1505
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 4: and you can provide more, who are you going to

1506
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 4: provide for? Don't start providing for every fucking body, all

1507
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 4: your cousins and your friends, hitting you.

1508
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 3: And ship and you're doing that, I mean that mistake.

1509
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 4: Listen, you start doing that, you can find yourself going

1510
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 4: down a rabbit hole. And so you got to make

1511
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 4: some tough decisions and and uh, you know, hang, you know,

1512
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 4: ignore some phone calls.

1513
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 3: And ship like that.

1514
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 4: But other than that, dog, it's just like same grind, uh,

1515
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 4: but also having that mentality ship. Yeah, if I got

1516
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 4: one hundred MS, I guess I can float my cousin.

1517
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 4: I love something like, let me get to the point.

1518
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 2: Where you gotta get you gotta get the head.

1519
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 3: I can't float a little something.

1520
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: I can't see each other as much as you want

1521
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: to as far as you know, friends and homies and right,

1522
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: but they got to start as.

1523
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 4: Soon you see starts. I don't know. I don't and

1524
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 4: shout out to Sydney swingey I think right. She was

1525
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 4: saying that, I think the actress from uh Euphoria, she

1526
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 4: was like, I'm still working like this lifestyle that we

1527
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 4: have to provide for ourselves as actors.

1528
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 3: And you might have to have a crib in La.

1529
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: You might have to have one.

1530
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 4: Of the it's expensive, yeah, and so it's not as

1531
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 4: glamorous as you all think it is. It's like, no,

1532
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 4: you have to work a long time to get to

1533
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 4: a certain spot, or you just have some very sweet moments.

1534
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 4: And I'm far from not having anything. And I'm blessed

1535
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 4: and I'm grateful for all the opportunities, but I'm far

1536
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 4: from where I want to be.

1537
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 5: And even you were saying with the process of sometimes

1538
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 5: you have to pass on roles because it's not better

1539
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 5: for your career. Even if you need the money, sometimes

1540
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 5: you don't know when the next check is coming. So

1541
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 5: I got a budget, even if I just did P value.

1542
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 5: I got a budget because I'm not quite sure facts

1543
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 5: if the next move makes sense yet. So I might

1544
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 5: have to take a year to find the right one,

1545
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 5: and I won't have any.

1546
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 4: Income and I don't have any Shout out to these

1547
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 4: people who bring me to these appearances.

1548
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 3: Man, shout out to the other brand.

1549
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see you doing doing club appearances. I'm like, wait,

1550
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: so are you going to jilt fonts always? Or it's

1551
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: a little murdered because you know they're paying for Little Murder?

1552
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 3: We put both on the fly. Okay, okay. And the

1553
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 3: great thing about this what this season has done.

1554
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: How do you write that off on your taxes?

1555
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 4: Man?

1556
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 3: Listen, man, you shouldn't even say thing.

1557
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 4: Man, Man.

1558
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: Given that away.

1559
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 5: Man, I can promise you in the p Valley world,

1560
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 5: Little Murder has never paid a.

1561
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 4: Tax, no matter. He don't pay No.

1562
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 5: I can say everyone on that show is it's a

1563
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 5: cash business.

1564
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 4: Look man, down in the Valley, they ain't paying no

1565
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 4: Damn jay All finds Nicholson.

1566
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 3: I've paid all my tax you know, my lawyers and my.

1567
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 5: Cant paid extra.

1568
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I pay a little extra, so they send me

1569
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 4: something back, you know what I'm saying. But uh, yeah, man,

1570
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 4: you know, shout out to the people who are constantly booked.

1571
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 4: I've been blessed now to to kind of stay steady

1572
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 4: and have a little bit of project here there.

1573
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 3: And but Pandemic was ripped.

1574
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 2: Yeah you know that shot season two during the Pandemic.

1575
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 4: We came back towards the end of it. It was

1576
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 4: on the tail end of it. But during it, I'm like,

1577
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 4: oh ship, you know, I'm like, damn baby, Like I'm

1578
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 4: gonna have to pull the buckets out this week, you

1579
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like I ain't think I would.

1580
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 4: But buckets still in the garage, they still.

1581
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 3: At the crib.

1582
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 4: One day, I'm gonna get them like Gold played it.

1583
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 4: And at the bottom, I will say, you don't even know.

1584
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 4: You don't even know, y'all don't really know what the

1585
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 4: fuck I had to go through to really even sit

1586
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 4: here with Marlon Roy and shit, you know what I'm saying,

1587
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 4: Like it's different, Like so you know, as far as

1588
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 4: managing your money, I tell your Spencer told me when

1589
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 4: I worked with her, God blessed her. We did a

1590
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 4: self made on Netflix. She said, our fonts always live

1591
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 4: below your means.

1592
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, she said, don't.

1593
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 4: Ever get out here and you know, be trying to

1594
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 4: live above your means and buying all the fly ship

1595
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 4: you can pop out sometimes. You know, you can do

1596
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 4: certain things, have a little.

1597
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: Fun, but don't make it a lifestyle.

1598
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 3: Don't make it a lifestyle. Not as an artist.

1599
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 4: Now if you have, you a millionaire and you're constantly

1600
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 4: making millions and millions of dollars, but until you get

1601
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 4: to that point, uh, you know, live below your means

1602
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 4: and understand like, yeah, you might have to throw one

1603
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 4: hundred bands in the trash.

1604
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 3: It's a script they offered you. Damn, this ain't the one.

1605
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 4: Fuck, it's a hundred bands in the Try and say

1606
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 4: that to my wife said, baby, that's all right, It

1607
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 4: ain't right.

1608
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 3: You got to make smart decisions.

1609
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 6: Man.

1610
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 4: It's like somebody coming up to y'all and like, hey, y'all,

1611
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 4: come do this show down here at the fourth the KKK.

1612
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 3: Man, see if you guys want to right, yeah, like

1613
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 3: what but know what, we got a million dollars for you, right,

1614
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 3: come on, man.

1615
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 5: I think, what the fuck they got pass all that.

1616
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 4: I'm busy that wee get I'm busy on.

1617
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 5: That right, It's like booked up with the Proud Boys.

1618
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,879
Speaker 3: That yeah, look man, see I don't.

1619
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 5: Storm the capital that day.

1620
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 4: I gotta get out of here. Man, this ship is

1621
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 4: not going to make me be a better artist and

1622
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 4: show business wise. On that business side, it's not gonna

1623
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 4: my entity will not look well on the face.

1624
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 5: And it's painful because Ma and I ship we publicly

1625
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 5: went through turning down more money than we'd ever seen.

1626
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 5: I'm sure we got it makes sense for us.

1627
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 3: We gotta leave it.

1628
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 5: Even after that, the deals we got and I love

1629
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 5: our partner with Stitcher and series, but there was there

1630
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 5: was bigger offers than them. They made the most sense.

1631
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 5: But all I had those conversations like all right, let's

1632
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 5: just throw these ems in.

1633
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: But it's you know, but it's fucked up because a

1634
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: lot of people don't have the luxury of being able

1635
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: to negotiate from that point. Wheah, you can turn down

1636
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars and like, in fact, you know

1637
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: some people that a point their life withere, they're like

1638
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: I got to I.

1639
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 5: Said, I got it. I'm taken bags that I shouldn't

1640
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 5: have taken, but I needed to take it. I'm not

1641
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 5: above that ship.

1642
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: Man.

1643
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 3: Man, go look, you go see two movies I did. Man,

1644
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna talk about it.

1645
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 4: But listen, man, I'm gonna go digg it. You wanna

1646
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 4: tell me off the camera? Watch it like I can

1647
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 4: tell you.

1648
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 6: Go see some ship.

1649
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 4: Man, Like, what the fuck was this man thinking? Man, Yeah,

1650
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 4: boom tomato, tomato. Man, get this motherfucker. I need I

1651
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 4: needed it. I needed it bad. Yo. You go through

1652
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 4: that ship, so I needed it bad man. But now

1653
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 4: I'm blessed and not have to make that decision. And

1654
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 4: it's just like, yeah, everybody don't have the luxury of

1655
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 4: doing that. And then sometimes I be having to remind

1656
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 4: myself that I do because I get it. You like,

1657
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 4: fuck it, I'm gonna do it. I'm the captain of

1658
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 4: the ship. Everybody go, I'm gonna tell them what we

1659
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 4: My wife like, baby, you're not about to do that. Yeah,

1660
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 4: that's gonna come out. You're not gonna be proud of it.

1661
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 4: And so you'd be smart about your decisions, man, but

1662
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 4: at the same time, took your bread away, but also

1663
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 4: figure out other ways to make money. I'm a storyteller. Yes, indeed,

1664
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 4: I want to make a lot of bread off of it.

1665
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 4: I want to change a lot of lives doing that.

1666
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 4: But I got other shit that I'm doing. Cannabisiness will

1667
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,959
Speaker 4: be my retirement. I think I believe in the medicinal

1668
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,879
Speaker 4: purposes of what the smoke is. I know you understand

1669
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 4: what that is. We don't smoke just to get high

1670
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,799
Speaker 4: no more. It's like I need that keep my anxiety straight,

1671
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 4: keep my thoughts, keep these emails from going crazy, and

1672
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: you know whatever other benches I might have. Shout out

1673
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 4: to my boy, Brandon McKay hearn is out here from

1674
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 4: Brocoli City.

1675
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 3: We got a company called Sanctuary Deliverance.

1676
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 4: We started to do something producing and directing and pitching

1677
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 4: our own projects.

1678
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 3: Now, so on that page too.

1679
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: Who's the one actor that.

1680
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: You can't wait to have that one scene with where

1681
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: you know this is gonna elevate my sh it into

1682
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: a whole another because it's.

1683
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 2: Always that one scene. I feel like the guy and

1684
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: I hate that. I forget his name? He played in

1685
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: Equalizer too.

1686
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my young boy. What's his name?

1687
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 1: His name he played in the Wu Tang series. Yeah, sorry,

1688
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to, but his name. I think he's phenomenal.

1689
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 1: He's the next I believe he's one of the next

1690
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: great actors. His scene and equalizer too in the hall

1691
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 1: way with Denzel, when Denzel was pulling him out of

1692
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 1: the project he was upstairs with with the with the Gang.

1693
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: To me, that was the scene where it elevated him.

1694
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: You can see Denzel kind.

1695
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 2: Of saying, fact, I see I.

1696
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: See greatness in you. Who's the one actor that you

1697
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: can't wait to have that moment with? If it's If

1698
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: it's not Denzel.

1699
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 4: Obviously obviously you wanted. Everybody want to work with and Zel.

1700
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 4: I've been blessed to work with some dope people man

1701
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 4: from TV Spencer to David Allen Greer, who people don't

1702
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 4: let you legend as a stage actor, legend very drops

1703
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 4: into this ship like funderrated comedy comedy, he kills that,

1704
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 4: but the drama insane. Blair Underwood another great guy as

1705
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 4: far as my peers, NBJ, you know, we had this

1706
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 4: adupt moment on Just Mercy five minutes that changed my life.

1707
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 4: A lot of my opportunities came from that. So shout

1708
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 4: out to Just Mercy, Shout out to Jamie and you know,

1709
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 4: maybe Ja and.

1710
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 3: Now I'm just looking forward to more moments like that.

1711
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 4: I'm about to have one, right, So, playing Chris Paul,

1712
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 4: my first scene is with Lawrence Fishburn, who's he playing

1713
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 4: Doc Rivers and so that's like, ah shit, all right,

1714
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 4: he's one of those.

1715
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: He's one of He's one of one of them ones.

1716
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 4: So you better come correct, you better be ready that day, boy,

1717
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 4: you better not playing. So that's kind of what Austin Rivers. Look. Look,

1718
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 4: somebody's playing Rivers too.

1719
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 3: They got Austin on that. I forgot.

1720
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 4: They got Austin I think he is that they got.

1721
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 4: We got a little line up, you know me. They

1722
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 4: got the Blake Griffin kat My boy. Saronis is playing Barnes. Yeah,

1723
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 4: you know all them.

1724
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 5: Saronas is perfect for Matt Barnes. I don't even know

1725
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 5: he's playing that.

1726
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 4: He's playing that and they are tall, like the cat's

1727
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 4: like really ball and ship. I got to work. I'm

1728
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 4: getting my ship together.

1729
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 3: It's like he can act maybe.

1730
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. Yeah on first day, yo,

1731
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 4: pass me. So, but I'm I'm looking forward to working

1732
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 4: with Lawrence Man and then Ah Man. Nicole Bajari wonderful,

1733
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 4: wonderful incredibles man like with her scenes.

1734
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 3: Me and my wife was talking about the other day.

1735
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 4: She's just one of those actions that you gravitate towards

1736
01:15:59,280 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 4: on the screen.

1737
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: She does. What I like to do is like breathe

1738
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 3: and believe it's all there. Uh.

1739
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 4: Man. I worked with my boy Matt wils and not

1740
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 4: late and I don't work with some dope people, man,

1741
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 4: So I'm blessed to work with some legends work.

1742
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 5: Talk to Snyle lathing about about ball she could train you.

1743
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 4: Well, that's right. She did get her balling skills up

1744
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 4: in there and.

1745
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: Super shape that she did, and she was balling there.

1746
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 4: Like. The good thing about c P is he ain't

1747
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 4: really too I was like, okay, I gotta get too

1748
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 4: cut up. But he do got Hella endurance.

1749
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 5: His handle might be difficult to handle.

1750
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 4: Is different. Bringing the stunt double. Let them bring if

1751
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 4: you can. If he down, bring him in because I'm

1752
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 4: not gonna be able to do that. I'm gonna let

1753
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 4: him know right now. I'm gonna do my best. But

1754
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 4: you know what I'm doing is the good thing about

1755
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 4: the series is that they really get into the nitty

1756
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 4: gritty you see some of the courtship what you're saying,

1757
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 4: like behind us.

1758
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: And this is the l A Clippers Donald Sterling l.

1759
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 4: A Clippers Donald Sterling series focused on the Miss V

1760
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 4: who really you know, captured a lot of horrible ship.

1761
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 3: He was saying about your team.

1762
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 4: Shout out to her for really you know, stirring up

1763
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 4: the mix, that pulling the carpetback that had to be

1764
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 4: pulled back. But he was saying some hateful things about

1765
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 4: these players, and you know, unfortunately he lost his team.

1766
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 4: So they telling that story about it. No, fortunately, yeah,

1767
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 4: fortunately he lost his team.

1768
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 5: I'm curious what because they not to say they buried

1769
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 5: that because I was it was a huge story, but

1770
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 5: it did disappear pretty fucking quickly.

1771
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 4: It did.

1772
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 5: And there's a reason. Yeah, and now a lot of

1773
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 5: those owners that's that's their crew.

1774
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,440
Speaker 2: They're like, well you got quote, didn't.

1775
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 4: It's a lot of that shout out to the people

1776
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 4: who's bringing this story to the forefront and really wanted

1777
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 4: to be told. And yeah, man, like when I read

1778
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 4: the script, I was like, damn, I didn't even know

1779
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 4: about this. Like he was out here calling players niggas

1780
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 4: and shit, don't bring niggas to the game and like

1781
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 4: what it's like, what are you talking about? You own

1782
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 4: a team full of black players, what are you talking about?

1783
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 4: So hearing the story but understanding who had a movement

1784
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 4: in it. CP three Shout out to CP three, Dog,

1785
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 4: he wasn't having none of that, Like he was really

1786
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 4: on the protests, like, no, we got to stop.

1787
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 3: We don't care about the checks. We're not doing that.

1788
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 4: And so a lot of the you know, black Lives

1789
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 4: Matter movement that was happening within the NBA came from

1790
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 4: CP three in his side of things.

1791
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to kick it with him

1792
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: yet about this?

1793
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 4: Not yet?

1794
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 2: Okay?

1795
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I hope I can bro you know what

1796
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 4: I'm saying a lot of people. Yeah, I'm sure he Matt.

1797
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 4: Me and Matt just produced a little short film a

1798
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 4: couple months ago, a couple of months back. So I

1799
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 4: got a chance to chop it up with Matt. Matt

1800
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,879
Speaker 4: Barnes Shout out to Matt bar in the cannabis industry,

1801
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 4: big all the smoke, shout out to him, man and

1802
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 4: my dog, stack Jacks, Stack Jacks.

1803
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1804
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, I want to work with some great

1805
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 4: people and I just want to continue to leave my

1806
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 4: mark as well and hopefully.

1807
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: But no, you're definitely doing that.

1808
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 3: Man.

1809
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: Like I said, you ask you like, y'all are the

1810
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 1: guys that I'm just like, Yeah.

1811
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 3: Shout out to ask.

1812
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 4: One of my favorite scenes was in Moonlight when he's

1813
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 4: sitting there in the prince was office and he just

1814
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 4: quiet and the teaching that principal saying something to him.

1815
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 4: He just like and you don't even know, and he

1816
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 4: break down and get fucked up. I'm a very emotional guy,

1817
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 4: so even watching the scene, I started cry right now

1818
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 4: thinking about the motherfucker. I cried watching that ship and

1819
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there with my wife and then but my

1820
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 4: it was just a cold movie. But I knew right then,

1821
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 4: like damn, that dude he got something about it. He

1822
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 4: got that raw talent about him.

1823
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1824
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 4: I love to work with that brother. Another peer, Daniel Kolula, Man,

1825
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 4: he been showing me mad love. He done invited me

1826
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,839
Speaker 4: to like three events over the past couple of weeks.

1827
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 3: He's solid, bro, He's solid. He like one of us.

1828
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 4: If I ever get a chance to have him on

1829
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 4: the show, you go sit down, be can make that happen.

1830
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 3: But y'all sit down.

1831
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 4: You go be like, oh shit, he from the pond

1832
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 4: across the pond, but he like, Yo, what's up?

1833
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 3: Brother?

1834
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 4: Like I can really set this ship off.

1835
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1836
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 4: So people to.

1837
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 5: A two part question, uh, because I guess we could

1838
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 5: do this for another three hours. I'm chilling two part

1839
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 5: question because you've taken on some pretty dramatic roles, even

1840
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 5: the stuff you're telling us. We're Broadway with the trumpet

1841
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 5: player and everything. How do you separate the character and

1842
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 5: then going home to family. I was when Many Saints

1843
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 5: and Nork came out. I know, uh, what's what's Tony Soprano?

1844
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 5: Rest in Peace?

1845
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 4: Uh?

1846
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 5: The actor that played Tony Soprano.

1847
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 4: My wife knows his name, was just talking about it.

1848
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 4: The actor to play Tony Soprano, James.

1849
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 5: James Garrafini. They were interviewing his son. And I didn't

1850
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 5: really watch sopranos. My dad wouldn't let me because he

1851
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 5: didn't want me to think when I was at home

1852
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 5: that the character Tony Soprano existed in that household, So

1853
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 5: he wasn't really allowed to watch that ship. How do

1854
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 5: you separate that with family and when you're really trying

1855
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 5: to get into a role. So and did you start

1856
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 5: your wife and be like, I'm a rapping.

1857
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 6: Up right right right, I tell you about that conversation

1858
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 6: like nigga, no, you're not today right, but you ain't

1859
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 6: right and you're not even writing and ship like relaxed nigga, Like,

1860
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 6: but it sat like Beyonce don't write her ship.

1861
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't.

1862
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 4: She writes some of it, but it's so many you

1863
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 4: start to learn like, damn, it takes a team to

1864
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 4: really make every five. So I felt more comfortable doing

1865
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 4: that because that was the thing at first, and I

1866
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 4: started looking at people ship like, oh shi, it's ten

1867
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 4: motherfuckers on here anyway. Preparing and calming down and coming

1868
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 4: down cannabis has been by one of my my advice,

1869
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 4: you know, as far as like winding down from what

1870
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 4: you're as Blair Underwood taught me, your neurological.

1871
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 3: System does not know it's fake when you're acting it.

1872
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 4: Brain's not smart enough to be like, oh damn, I'm

1873
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 4: looking at a fake body today. Nah, that shit thinks real.

1874
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 4: You see that motherfucker putting that gun up to it. Hey,

1875
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 4: your body's starting to if you're really breathing and looking

1876
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 4: at him and taking it in. You gonna start to

1877
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 4: respond to that. As an artist. You can't be afraid

1878
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 4: of that. Okay, you can't be afraid to go there.

1879
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 4: And at the same time, you got to know how

1880
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 4: to come back and shake that shit off. Go get

1881
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 4: some water, wherever the case it may be. So everyone

1882
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 4: has their own thing that they do. Mine is just

1883
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 4: to sit down. Most time, I call my wife when

1884
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 4: I get back in my trailer, some pretty baby.

1885
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 3: God.

1886
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 4: I was working at nuts fucking nuts. So, like, you've

1887
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 4: been in this studio all day. It was daytime when

1888
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 4: I walked in this motherfucker. Now it's nighttime, but inside

1889
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 4: it was daytime doing the night So yeah, were shooting

1890
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 4: the day's time scenes. In a studio, they create the sun.

1891
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So you can be two

1892
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 4: in the morning, but you didn't decide this shit, or

1893
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 4: it's two in the morning. You sitting there with you

1894
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 4: with my guy John Stewart, Big Tea, and we noticed

1895
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 4: his last day on set and he got to kill

1896
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 4: himself today. So your brain is like, and a woman

1897
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 4: died that same day. RP to that lady who died

1898
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 4: on set.

1899
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:03,520
Speaker 2: When she got shot.

1900
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 4: With al imagine that day as an actor, how you

1901
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 4: come Damn somebody died from a fake gun, well not

1902
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 4: a fake gun, and we got to work with a

1903
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 4: gun today. So your brain is on like twenty.

1904
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: You know, even thought about it like that.

1905
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 4: It's crazy, bro, So to come down from all that

1906
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 4: shit from me, it's always a joint rolled up, you

1907
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Ready to spark conversation with my wife.

1908
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 4: Probably she shout out to my baby. She'll stay up

1909
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 4: whatever time I need to call her. And good thing

1910
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 4: is she on the west coast. I'll be on the

1911
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 4: east coast in Pete Valley. So you got to shake

1912
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 4: it off, man, And but it comes with you a

1913
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 4: little bit. Like then, I noticed my mouth will be

1914
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 4: a little flatter, you know, after a while, I'm like

1915
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 4: get my speech back. Yeah, I'm over here slurring my words.

1916
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 4: And I'm really you know, uh feeling a certain type

1917
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 4: of way today, Like little Murder he he got I

1918
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 4: see I saw him catch that body.

1919
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: You know this, See I was crazy, like see, but

1920
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: it was only crazy right because I'm like, yo, he

1921
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: all the way in that Like now we're seeing little

1922
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: Murder really be like Little.

1923
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 5: Murder living his name right in fact, not lying in.

1924
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: It's just like, okay, so how is this Like that's

1925
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 1: why I'm saying it has to we got it obviously

1926
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: Season three is coming. But it's like because now it's like,

1927
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: all right, who it's that you little Murder has to

1928
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: change that, Like he's not the little same little Murder

1929
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: no more.

1930
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 3: No, he's definitely big Murder now for show.

1931
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: Yeah that was a big ass gun.

1932
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely a big ass Draco. And even that right,

1933
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 4: like you're sitting there like yo were shooting, doing the

1934
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 4: shooting scene today. Part of you is excited about it, right,

1935
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 4: it's like, damn, this shot, got to play with this

1936
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 4: gun today. But then when you do the scene and

1937
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 4: you got to see your scene partner get all fucked

1938
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 4: up your brain kind of like ships all really gonna this,

1939
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 4: I really gotta get so you get into it. But

1940
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 4: when you get done with that, you dap it. I

1941
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 4: remember I was dapping Zach, you good dog? Right, you

1942
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like and my mental.

1943
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: You don't set your characters out of here.

1944
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's done when you're done, while you're still here,

1945
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 4: bro like and even that ship having beef on set.

1946
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 4: Shout out to Thomas Q. Jones man my dog, who

1947
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 4: play Maine on the show. Right, main see Thomas do

1948
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 4: ship like and it's funny. You don't even know if

1949
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 4: people know this's gonna set. Just to fuck with me,

1950
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 4: he'll have I come to my chair. He'll have mad

1951
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 4: ship on my chair like all his snacks and ship.

1952
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 3: He's like, Yo, what's good, nigga?

1953
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 4: What up?

1954
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 3: And I just like, man, get your ship off my chair.

1955
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 4: He's like, nah, man, like you make me get the

1956
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 4: ship off the chair.

1957
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: He's trying to get trying, but then he'll get taking

1958
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 2: ship off.

1959
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 3: But it's just even little ship like that.

1960
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 4: That you know, that works for him, absolutely snapping into

1961
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 4: characters a little bit. But for me, like I said,

1962
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 4: it's listening to the key Glock, listening to you know,

1963
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 4: the money bag, Yeah, whatever, the Southern hip hop. But

1964
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 4: by the end of the day, I'm playing some fucking

1965
01:25:59,040 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 4: little dragon.

1966
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 2: Okay, calm down, Like damn.

1967
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm playing something win in mysells Bob Marley and some ship.

1968
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 3: You know.

1969
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 5: But I mean that that can go either way. Because

1970
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 5: y'all have heard the Jamie Fox bit about any given

1971
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 5: Sunday with him an llo cool j fought when LL

1972
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 5: got a little character. So you can have moments like

1973
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 5: that where it can become funny and just a quick

1974
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,480
Speaker 5: physical interaction, but then you get like the Heath Ledgers

1975
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 5: that Methan average way too much, Like you became the

1976
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 5: fucking joker and that was part of your demise. Is

1977
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 5: that ever scare you with certain roles or cross your

1978
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 5: mind when scripts come in, like I'm gonna have to

1979
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 5: get into this character.

1980
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 4: Well, you know, when when I saw the suicide scene,

1981
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, Okay, that's heavy, Like that's gonna

1982
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 4: be a heavy day. Shout out to Stars Network. And

1983
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if other networks do this as well.

1984
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 4: I'm sure they do, but they brought in a therapist

1985
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 4: that day, and so they had a therapist with us

1986
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 4: that entire day. So you know, for me, I personally

1987
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 4: had you know, I'll be transparent. I've had fucked thoughts

1988
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 4: about suicide and ship and so you're gonna have your

1989
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 4: own personal struggles. But then if you've ever lost someone

1990
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 4: to suicide, you're gonna be thinking about that while you're working.

1991
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 3: And so that's the thing about being an art and actor.

1992
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 4: It's like they put you in real life situations that

1993
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 4: make your brain and herd go back to that time.

1994
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 5: And you got to call from that. To be a

1995
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 5: good actor, you got to pull from it.

1996
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 4: Don't be scared of And most directors can.

1997
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 3: Be like go there, please, like don't go.

1998
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 5: It's the worst time in my life, and you go there.

1999
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 4: And so it can get there. For people it's like, yo,

2000
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 4: this is crazy. Even with the intimacy scenes, it's like,

2001
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 4: I ain't never done no ship like this, Like.

2002
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 3: This is gonna be a tough day.

2003
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 4: This is gonna be a hard day, but I'm gonna

2004
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 4: push through understanding the story that I'm telling who I'm

2005
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 4: telling it for. And so when you can do that

2006
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 4: and rely on your team, your wife, whoever to keep

2007
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 4: you straight, then you good. But you know some people, yeah,

2008
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 4: they might take that extra step. And I don't know

2009
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 4: what that brother went through. He bluds in his last

2010
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 4: moments by himself, but you know, people say that he

2011
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 4: was he was out there with it. That can happen

2012
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 4: to anybody. You know, anybody can have a bad night.

2013
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 4: It's just his happened to be on an elevated platform

2014
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 4: and people was like, man, he's pulling from this ship.

2015
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 4: So you gotta be careful man, and don't allow the

2016
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 4: characters you play to be who you.

2017
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 3: Are, right like, you don't for me the character home.

2018
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 3: Don't take the ship home. You don't want to do

2019
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 3: that to the people.

2020
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 4: Because my wife already got to deal with everything that

2021
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 4: come with a little murder. It ain't no need of

2022
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 4: me coming home and thinking I'm look right.

2023
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 2: That would just be like, come.

2024
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 5: On, man, the marriage would work.

2025
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 4: So if I find your way to let that ship go,

2026
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 4: whether that's meditating, I used to bring my damn PlayStation in.

2027
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 3: The set all the time.

2028
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 4: So by the time I get back on my trailers,

2029
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 4: fucking I'm gonna play a little Call of duty real good,

2030
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 4: even between scenes, like but even on the suicide saying,

2031
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 4: I remember going back and it's double on. It's that

2032
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 4: double on times of shit. It's like, cause I got

2033
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 4: to catch a body today, you know, when I had

2034
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 4: to kill all buddy. So I'm playing call of duty.

2035
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 4: But it's like clearing my mind. But it's like the

2036
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 4: same place.

2037
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 2: You're still on that Yeah, you're still in that frequency

2038
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 2: of killing.

2039
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like, let me clear my mind.

2040
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 2: I just killed somebody on shit, and I'm gonna kill somebody, somebody.

2041
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 3: It's all pretend, pretend, but it's really it's funny.

2042
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 5: Even Like I was listen to a podcast interview, I

2043
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 5: think with one of the Hughes brothers, and he was

2044
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 5: talking about when him and Poc were cool before their

2045
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 5: whole fallout, and he went to the first screening of

2046
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 5: Juice with him and he said, and this this is

2047
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 5: his words. I don't want to be disrespectful to any

2048
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 5: of the Tupaca state, but he said he became bishop

2049
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 5: that day. He watched himself on that screen and from

2050
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 5: there went from the digital underground, fun dancing guy and

2051
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 5: just became bishop. Like he said, Juice might have been

2052
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 5: his downfall because he really became that fucking character. He

2053
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 5: wanted to have that, that story.

2054
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 3: He bodied that ship.

2055
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 2: It was my first movie for all of us in

2056
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 2: the hood that we felt like I want to act?

2057
01:29:58,320 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 4: What like Juice?

2058
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 2: That's that movie for like I'm like I want to.

2059
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 4: And I saw it later in life because I grew

2060
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 4: up in like a Pentecostal church holle My mama wasn't

2061
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 4: playing that shit, So I grew up seeing that those

2062
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,879
Speaker 4: type of movies later. But that's definitely one Tupac in particular,

2063
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 4: who made me say I want to do that. But

2064
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 4: Pac had the thing about Pac and I went to

2065
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 4: the museum out here. I don't know if y'all had

2066
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 4: a chance to do that. Yeah, I want to.

2067
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 3: Y'all got a little time, just.

2068
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,919
Speaker 4: Thirty minutes, Bro, run over there, go through the exhibit

2069
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 4: change my life.

2070
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 3: Bro going through that.

2071
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 5: My wife took the greatest human beings that's ever lived.

2072
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 4: And his mom was too. So they teach you that first,

2073
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 4: they teach you about who she was it. Yeah, and

2074
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 4: then you say, oh, makes sense. Maybe Pac really was

2075
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 4: about all that shit he was on because his mom

2076
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 4: was even more about it. So you see that his

2077
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 4: family was it was about it, yeah, and so it

2078
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 4: makes sense.

2079
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 3: And then he was a true artist truth that is

2080
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 3: being true.

2081
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: Like just poet was talking in front of the NAACP

2082
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: at the age of like nineteen twenty.

2083
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 3: I think crazy, just crazing. When you think about it,

2084
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 3: it's just crazy, bro.

2085
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 4: And so like when I seen I tell people all

2086
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 4: the time, my favorite scene is that when that God

2087
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 4: damn when the locker clubs what Up?

2088
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,719
Speaker 1: My favorite scene in that whole ship was when Bishop

2089
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 1: was at the house and he was talking to Raheem's

2090
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,719
Speaker 1: mom m and he hugged it.

2091
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 2: It was like that take a cold type of.

2092
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 4: Nigga, even when he held the look that he had ye.

2093
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,560
Speaker 2: Looking at you like you bet not you already.

2094
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 3: Know say nothing exactly cold man.

2095
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 4: I take a lot of that. I pulled from that.

2096
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 4: I pulled from a lot of actors, but that scene

2097
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 4: in particular, I pulled from my wife. No, in my

2098
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 4: daily life, I pulled from that fucking scene like don't

2099
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 4: fuck with me, yo, please don't. And even how he

2100
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,799
Speaker 4: leave off with the smile and shit like yeah, gravy,

2101
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 4: but please, don't you know what I'm saying?

2102
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 2: You and your wife do y'all?

2103
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 1: Do y'all ever just have fun with like acting out

2104
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: some of your favorite roles in the house, Like some

2105
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: of your favorite movies.

2106
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 5: Are you asking if they were play that's a very

2107
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 5: invasive that's a very invasive.

2108
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: Question or not on some sexual ship, but like, you know,

2109
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: some of your favorite shows and favorite movies, and y'all

2110
01:31:58,400 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 1: just start acting that.

2111
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 4: She's a huge TV movie buff. So when her family

2112
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 4: come around, they stay fucking retorting all types of shit

2113
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 4: they saying. And they all know the line too. Remember

2114
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 4: when the motherfucker said and shit whatever. I was just like,

2115
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 4: they know the line. I ain't grown watching a whole

2116
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 4: bunch of movies, so I love Hook.

2117
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 3: Hook was one of my favorite movies. Shout out to

2118
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:21,839
Speaker 3: Robin Williams RP.

2119
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 5: Man like another person that's probably method.

2120
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 4: Actors right right, and one of my favorite actors, which

2121
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 4: is insane. So and we don't know what that brother

2122
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 4: had going on, but shout out to Hook. But yeah,

2123
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 4: we we got damn were walking around the house saying,

2124
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 4: we got a couple of sayings Pee Valley obviously, now

2125
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 4: we can you say something from Pete Valley, We'll know

2126
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 4: the goddamn what the line? Yeah? Yeah, but she her

2127
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 4: her family, they know all types of movies and shit,

2128
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 4: and uh, I wish I knew more.

2129
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 3: I'll be trying to watch more movies, but I'll be

2130
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 3: in my own.

2131
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 5: Look, little Murder did have the Draco, but Pop did

2132
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 5: shoot eighteen shots from a three fifty seven.

2133
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he chased them all the way up down.

2134
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 5: Six bullets and he had.

2135
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 4: Why do you do that?

2136
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 3: He wuin't crazy, bro, I was just like this cat man,

2137
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:05,480
Speaker 3: he's looting.

2138
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 2: This legendary iconic movie.

2139
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 4: Though, I just watched Poetic Justice the other day too,

2140
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 4: for the first time. I'm about I was just watching

2141
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 4: it in the crib shout that Joe toy I had

2142
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 4: worked with Joe Tory. That's one of the movies I'm

2143
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 4: talking about. But anyway, I'm definitely going to.

2144
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 2: Watch you said, Joe any with you, I'm going to

2145
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 2: watch that.

2146
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:30,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, the manager of the Yankees, I'm.

2147
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 2: I gotta watch that movie.

2148
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: And now you say it, because now when you say that,

2149
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 1: I kind of already know, like, yeah.

2150
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, But it was, it was

2151
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 3: it's go watching him.

2152
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 5: I think the most underrated scene in movie history. And

2153
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 5: I never claim to be like a crazy movie buff,

2154
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 5: but to me, Jamie Fox al Pacino any given Sunday

2155
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:58,440
Speaker 5: when he goes to lunch at al Pacino's crib, Yeah,

2156
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 5: I think that's a better back and forth than De

2157
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 5: Niro and Pachito and heat. I think that's one of

2158
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 5: the greatest scenes ever. It's not only the acting what

2159
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 5: they're talking about. They just breaking down how fucked up

2160
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 5: the NFL is and how fucked up it is for

2161
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 5: athletes to even like. There's so much depth to that scene,

2162
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 5: and I think Jamie out out acted al Pacino and

2163
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Speaker 5: that ship Jamie.

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Speaker 3: That acted a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: Man, Jamie is a legend. He's one of those people

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01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 4: that I look up to and I and I inspired

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01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 4: I've worked with, you know.

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Speaker 5: As similar to as far as the music and so

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01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 5: many other facets to not just.

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Speaker 4: Acting, it's not acting, and then that life experienced Jamie

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01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 4: went always fucking.

2172
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Speaker 3: Famous and ship. You know what I'm saying.

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01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 4: It was a hardship that came up towards that. But

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Speaker 4: Jamie is good to his people too. Man. I've heard

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01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 4: some great stories about Jamie. It was working I was

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01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 4: working with a gentlemen saying he was telling me how

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Speaker 4: how I much love Jamie shold them on the Jamie

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Speaker 4: Fox Show. But yeah, man, you got people who just

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01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 4: they go show bro, no matter who they're working with,

2180
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 4: they go shine because they got that easy, subtle light

2181
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 4: to follow. Jamie is not like a He don't do

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01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of flexing right, just like that's an

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01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 4: easy light to spot, you know what I'm saying. So

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01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 4: I think he that scene was a beast. This movie

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01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 4: I'm about to do, Black Spartans, doesn't give me any

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01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 4: given Sunday Field but it gives me like, remember the Titans,

2187
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 4: feel like, yeah, I look forward.

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Speaker 5: When you explain that, I felt that. What's what's the

2189
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 5: other the basketball one when they started all five black

2190
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 5: players in the championships?

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01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 3: Oh that was.

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01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,799
Speaker 2: My coach. That was in Willie Worsley Glory GLORI.

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01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 5: Which me what fifteen years ago? They came twenty years ago?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this new joint black spartans I'm about to do.

2195
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 4: Got that that that athlete movie we ain't seen in

2196
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 4: a minute, you know what I'm saying, little history period piece.

2197
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's gonna be pretty dope. And it's I think,

2198
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 4: like I said, you want to stand out as an actor, Yeah,

2199
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 4: you know, but you don't want to. I don't want

2200
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 4: to be That's not your mission. You're not trying to

2201
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 4: be in this movie just to shine. You're not trying

2202
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 4: to work with people just to out act them. Yeah,

2203
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 4: you know, it's like, how can I elevate this movie?

2204
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:07,759
Speaker 4: But also you want to be a part of good teams.

2205
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 4: That's part of that thing was going back to like

2206
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 4: choosing your work. If you're the best actor in the movie,

2207
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 4: you might not want to do it. You might want

2208
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 4: to Yeah, I might want to reconsider that. Yeah, if

2209
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 4: you go be the best actor in the motherfucking movie, like, nah,

2210
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 4: go work with some people that's gonna challenge you.

2211
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: You know, what would you say in closing? What would

2212
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: you say to the drummer in Tom Square right now

2213
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: that doesn't know what.

2214
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 2: The future has for him?

2215
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 1: To the kid in North Carolina and high school that

2216
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 1: you know is trying to figure out where he want

2217
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 1: to go, Like, what would you say to that, to

2218
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: those people in those moments right now?

2219
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 4: Great question, brother, Well let me just say, first of all, man,

2220
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 4: you guys are amazing.

2221
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 3: It's one of the best interviews I've ever done.

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01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 4: True professionals, true journalists, true just kind of sue it

2223
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:01,719
Speaker 4: of this what we're doing.

2224
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 3: So thank you for having me.

2225
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 4: And what I would say to the young finds of

2226
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:11,959
Speaker 4: the God, as my boy Brandon say, it's just, uh,

2227
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 4: don't stop now, don't stop now, don't stop growing now,

2228
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 4: don't stop looking yourself in the mirror.

2229
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 3: Now keep going. It's go pay off. And so I'm

2230
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 3: glad I did that.

2231
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 4: No matter how discourage you get, just keep going, no

2232
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 4: matter the obstacles that are gonna come your way, keep going.

2233
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 4: You know, it's gonna be a lot. It's gonna be

2234
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,600
Speaker 4: this character name a little murder that's gonna fuck up

2235
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 4: the world for a hot second, and everybody gonna have

2236
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 4: something to say. Push through that. That's nothing because wait

2237
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 4: till you see the other side of that. And so

2238
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 4: that's what I would say to him. And love your

2239
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 4: loved ones, you know, protect your son, protect your daughter,

2240
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 4: my stepdaughter, you know, figure out what type of provider

2241
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 4: you want to be early in life. And yeah, man,

2242
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 4: just constantly giving myself kind of that uplift.

2243
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 3: But have a good time, spin your bread, smoked some

2244
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 3: good weed.

2245
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Go to these these appearances and.

2246
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 3: Do what you're gonna do. Have a great time, So

2247
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 3: have fun, but stay remain focused.

2248
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 5: You know, where do you find fulfillment outside of work

2249
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 5: and family?

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01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 4: Man, That's really where a lot of my fulfillment comes

2251
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 4: from is family and work. But I would say, just

2252
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 4: constantly building a network, you know what I'm saying. I

2253
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 4: know that's work, a little bit work, but at the

2254
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 4: same time, it's a different type of work for us.

2255
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 4: At this point. Y'all doing with exactly what you want

2256
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 4: to do, and so finding enjoy and doing exactly what

2257
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 4: you want to do, Like, damn, I want to touch

2258
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 4: the cannabis shit, shout out to ball family farms.

2259
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 3: I want to touch this this movie shit. Or I

2260
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 3: just want to take my family. Y'all can choose to

2261
01:38:58,439 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 3: just not.

2262
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 4: Do this for a couple of weeks and say, you

2263
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna take my family to the Turks

2264
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 4: and Kkos or whatever the case may be. Yeah, yeah,

2265
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 4: listeners will be pissed or y'all pile them up, like fucker,

2266
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 4: we gonna do two three four in one day. Now,

2267
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 4: we offer two weeks because we already lined it up.

2268
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 4: So having that type of advantage, man, is always an option.

2269
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, just building having a good time,

2270
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 4: me and my wife, like dancing in the kitchen.

2271
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 3: Dog. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

2272
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 4: It's playing a little music, dancing in the kitchen at

2273
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 4: the crib, but mapping it out what's next? How next time?

2274
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 4: When we do the you know, when I do the podcast,

2275
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 4: I'm sitting on the yacht with you and ship.

2276
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 3: It's like, damn, all we really out here in the yacht.

2277
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 4: You got the WiFi out here, you know what, Right,

2278
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 4: it's gonna be different. So it's like and then I

2279
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 4: look forward to that, you know. So that's why I

2280
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 4: get my joy from it. It's like the connections that

2281
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 4: I'm making with real people on my father's tombstone.

2282
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 3: I say this all the time.

2283
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 4: It's a bridge building, bridge building, and so just doing that,

2284
01:39:57,880 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 4: bro like bridge building. Man. I know you said that's work,

2285
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 4: but for me, it ain't light and the money that

2286
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 4: come with it, that's the incentive. Yeah, you start to

2287
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 4: learn that, like that's that's the incentive that come with life.

2288
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 4: But what's the pleasures in the joy of the ship.

2289
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:09,599
Speaker 4: You know?

2290
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 2: Well, jail Fons man, listen, I thank you man, it's

2291
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 2: been a pleasure.

2292
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 3: My god.

2293
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 2: You locked in forever. Family. I love everything you're doing.

2294
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 5: Room for you.

2295
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 1: We're supporting you, man. Uh pe Vallay season three of course,

2296
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 1: you know it's coming. Black Spartan just coming. Uh, the

2297
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: La Clippers story is coming. We salute you, We support you, man,

2298
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we gonn link up against soon.

2299
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 4: Guys, appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Let's get it.