1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: All right, so I gotta say this is gonna well, 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: this is going to be a very memorable podcast. I 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: feel nervous. This is huge. 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: Can I say? I mean, this is huge. I saw 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: it come through on my email and I thought, way 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: to go, Kramer. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 4: What was the text that you sent again? I said, alright, alright, all. 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Right exactly because we're having Matthew McConaughey come on wine 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: Down today. I thought I was Actually I thought we're 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: getting punked. 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: I did too. I thought it was Mike. 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 5: I did. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: I was like to get there and I'm gonna actually 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 3: put on makeup, and then I'm be like, oh, because 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: I knew. 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 5: I did. 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: That's funny. 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: I'm excited. 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Though I'm excited. I'm nervous too. I'm not a natural interviewer, 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: and I'm nervous. 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: I would say that I am. 23 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: I would say this is the I can't think of 24 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: a bigger celebrity I've ever met ever, and I do. 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: I think the thing is too, is that we've all 26 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: kind of grown up with Matthew. Yeah, so it feels 27 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: like we've all had this like long relationship with him 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: and then you you know, to sit in a room 29 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: in a way with him and be able to ask. 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 4: He's had a million interviews. Have you ever met him? 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: I have not. 32 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: I remember I was with Jana when she met him, 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: and I just stood back and just like I think 34 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: my mouth was wide open while she was talking to him. 35 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: Well, we share the same publicist, oh and so, and 36 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: I've never asked my publicist and she has I mean 37 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: big people obviously, like I'm just like her. I sometimes 38 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: I feel like i'm her. You know what's the when 39 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: you have a lawyer and they just do it for 40 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: pro bono, pro bono, like I feel, I feel like 41 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: her pro bono clients. 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: But no, I mean she. 43 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: Gives me pro bono, you know, the lower but it's 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: definitely not at all. But I mean she definitely gives 45 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: me a little you know the first time because I've 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: had her Jesus for forever I've ever had anything, and 47 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: it's been I've been using her for years, so you know, 48 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: she gives me sometimes a little bit of a discount. 49 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: So again feel very pro bono. When she's got the 50 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: Jada Pinketts and the Matthew mcconaugheys, and I mean just yeah, 51 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: that's many people and so, but she's. 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: Not picking up people like me. So let's put that 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: in perspective. Do you know what I'm saying, like you 54 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: should just to put your put your perspective back that 55 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: one doesn't love you. But what I'm saying like like 56 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: she's she has real actors and actresses and you're a 57 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: real actress. 58 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: Well, and she. 59 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: Working with you. We're always like if you want to. 60 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: And she was like stop, She's like like yes, of course. 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: But we saw what was it is? It was it 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: an ac ana was oh no. 63 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: No, that a CC awards or something they had for 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: a little while. I don't even if they have it anymore. 65 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: It was not a CM or CMA. 66 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: It was on Fox. 67 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: It was a different one. 68 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 4: It was some country. It was Country award. 69 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: And I said, Nicole, I've never asked you for one picture. Never, 70 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: not one picture, not one I have asked her Back 71 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: in the day, I was like, do you know this 72 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: person like in the dating era. 73 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 4: Because I was like, like publicis like they hooked, they had. 74 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: Each other up, like that's how I met you know, whatever, 75 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: and so whatever whatever, and so I said, you know, 76 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: I've never asked you for a picture of Anyboddy. I 77 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: was like, but I I, it's Matthew McConaughey, like please, 78 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: And he was lovely. 79 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: Oh he was so sweet. 80 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: I just feel like he's always that way. But you 81 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: know what the problem is, though, that was before the cloud. 82 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: I don't know where that photo is. No, is it printed? 83 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: It might be fasted it somewhere, and I had to 84 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: have been, but there doesn't. It's like not in my cloud. 85 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: Well that's depressing, I know, because it's. 86 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: I look back. 87 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: The only thing that is that are in my cloud 88 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: are probably from when I had Jolie same. 89 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 4: I don't have anything free love. 90 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: Maybe I have it. I have a lot of photos. 91 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: I'll go back and look. I feel like I'm a hundred. 92 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: The cloud confuses me, but also like where did it go? 93 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: Where did all those photos go? Like are they on 94 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: some drive that you know, like an extern? Well? 95 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm like, where did those photos go? As 96 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: ZIP drive? 97 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even have proof of my 98 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: Matthew photo. I remember it, oh, I remember it. I 99 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: remember the dress, I remember the cheese of my smile. 100 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: I remember unfortunately quoting how to Lose Guy in ten days, 101 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: like our love for and you let it die Like 102 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: he's never fucking heard that before. 103 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: So I remember being like, God, I wish I could ask, 104 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: but I can't ask. So I'm just gonna watch Jana 105 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: love him. 106 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 4: But she did ask the other to day. I guess 107 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: I never ask you never did. 108 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't, but I did for I mean, I have, 109 00:04:59,600 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: I have it. 110 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: I just feel like you don't who for who? 111 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe one tree hill or something at 112 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: some point. 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that tracks. 114 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. In there, you just knew. 115 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: You're like, hey, Catherine, why don't you get in this photo? 116 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: Oh that's right, I did. 117 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably what it was. So I didn't have 118 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: to ask me. But Lance, we were just like sitting 119 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: there having a conversation with him, and then I was 120 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: like I usually do this, but I feel like now 121 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: is like the time I need the picture with Lance. 122 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 123 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: You know what's funny is like I don't ask for 124 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: pictures anymore because I just I think once you get 125 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: to a place, right, then it becomes weird, like we 126 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: can't be friends if I take a picture with you. 127 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: So I think you think that, but it's not weird. 128 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 4: Really, I don't think it was weird when you asked 129 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: to Panga. 130 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: To Panga, I was gonna say to Panga and then 131 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna yeah, Dan Danielle. But I feel like 132 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: she loved you just as much and was just as excited. 133 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: Yes, And I think it also put me in the 134 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: fan zone. That's what I'm saying. We're ever going to 135 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: be friends, you know what I mean. That's because I 136 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: think her as a fan, so I think that piece 137 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: is I. 138 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: Don't necessarily in that instance because what every celebrity forty 139 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: year old grew up watching that show. I guarantee you 140 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: more celebrities have done that, like guarantee it, I guarantee it. 141 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: I just I feel the way you feel once I've 142 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: like documented our first time meeting. I'm a fan. You 143 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: can't under you have a photo with Lance Yell are friends. 144 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 2: But as a fan, I think like he's so sweet 145 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: to me, and he's always been so sweet to me, 146 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: But I don't think he would be like when he's 147 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: a Nashville, is gonna call me up like oh. 148 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yes, No, Tapega's probably not calling you 149 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: when she comes to Nashville. I wish you was she 150 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: gonna call you anyway, no, and you have a photo, 151 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: so done right? 152 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 4: Well sure. 153 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 3: I also think there's a difference between you taking a 154 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: picture from me and me taking a selfie with a person, 155 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: Like selfies are like friend zone, Like I'm not taking 156 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: a self with Jess when I met her with who 157 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: jessicas Jess, just Jess. 158 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: Or you have someone else. That's what usually needs to happen, 159 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: like like we force it, like hey, Jana, like come on, Jana, Tapanga, 160 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: get over here and take a photo instead of that, 161 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: that's better exactly. That's what she tried to do in 162 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: those instances if there's somebody, but like that whole situation, 163 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: she was like Tapanga. 164 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I straight up fangirl. And then we were in 165 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: the on the way home from Vegas in the what 166 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: was that called it a shuttle? Yeah, the Boy Meets 167 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: World cast was in there, so you know rider who 168 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: I just had Like. 169 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: That's not his? Is that? Wait? Is that that his 170 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: real name? That's really yeah? 171 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: But like and then the older brother was in there, 172 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: but he's talking like I have no idea who he is. 173 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: And then the whole time I'm like, I know exactly 174 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: who you are because I've watched you every Friday. He's like, 175 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you might not even know who I am. 176 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I actually know exactly who you are. 177 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: I think he was trying to make a point. No 178 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: he was, Yeah, I think he definitely. 179 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: But he was sweet. 180 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: He probably wanted ton't probably needs to feel a little 181 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: like you know who he is. 182 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: Well, his point too is that he doesn't know. 183 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: He goes, you are, I. 184 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Don't know who you are? 185 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: He goes, do you have a podcast? 186 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 5: Here? 187 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: I go, don't we? 188 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: All right? 189 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 190 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Which it was endearing though. It was sweet. 191 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Vegas overall was good. 192 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great, good, and he wasn't cute cute, cute, 193 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: thank you that little bump and then the shoes you 194 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: wear pregnant really shots off though, because I wouldn't even 195 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: attempt to squeeze the sausages into those shoes. 196 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: So she usually pregnant all the things like I'm like, 197 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: my feet are killing me, and she's just like everything 198 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: is fine this time? Could oh good, you're him not 199 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: long and she was like, I cannot walk like she 200 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: It was those were tough. 201 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 2: She was very mad at her stylist. I could not walk. 202 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: My feet were killing me. So I took them off good. 203 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: And then everyone was staring at me, and I was like, 204 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: I don't care. I get a free pass. 205 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. And then your cat took her shoes off with. 206 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: And then everyone does. And then I had Walmart feed. 207 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Oh it's drinking you guys. Shoes off in public places 208 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: are hard for me. I go to a crunchy school. 209 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: Kids don't wear Matthew's here. 210 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: We're going to take a breath and a break and 211 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: we'll be right back. 212 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: My goodness, good morning, Matthew McConaughey. 213 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: It's McConaughey day. How are you. 214 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 5: It was this living room I was hanging out. Look 215 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 5: like you're in the place to be. 216 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: I mean, where are you at, buddy. 217 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: We have an extra chair for you over there, right 218 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: over there. 219 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: We'll just copy paste you, put you in there, we'll 220 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: shift you around. 221 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for coming on wine down. 222 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: We just greatly appreciate the time that you're about to 223 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: spend with us, So thank you. 224 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 5: Well, thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to it. 225 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: It's a huge day because we're here just because. 226 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 5: Really sometimes that's reason enough. 227 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, just because of your new kids book, and you're 228 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: a New York Times best selling author uga In Matthew McConaughey, 229 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: how's it feel? 230 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 5: How about that? 231 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: No big deal? 232 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 5: Right, yeah, that's very very cool. You know, when I 233 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 5: when I wrote green Lights, now, all I've ever really 234 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 5: done is films. I didn't know what sort of the 235 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: measurement was, like what are we calling? What are we 236 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 5: hoping for? What are we shooting for? And someone to 237 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 5: tell me, oh, you want to hope you get on 238 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 5: the top ten. It's like, okay, it's go over top ten, 239 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: and then all sudden come out number one. I'm like, okay, 240 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 5: And then we've put out the children's book. I had 241 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 5: no idea it hopes, but all of a sudden tell me, hey, 242 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: New York Times are one best hell And I'm like, great. 243 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: And let us toot your horn for you too, because 244 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: green Lights. 245 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: I have a very really really respect that book a lot. 246 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: And we'll talk about that later. 247 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: But Green Lights stayed on the New York Times Best 248 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: selling list for like at least one hundred and ten 249 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: weeks or something crazy. 250 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 5: I think we're right at one hundred a little over 251 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 5: one hundred weeks now, which is to think about. I'm 252 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: told that's not normal. To understand it's not. And I 253 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 5: I got to say, it's been really enjoyable asking people 254 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 5: that come up to me and go because a lot 255 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 5: of people that read Green Lights don't come up, Hey, 256 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 5: really enjoyed the book, appreciate it. They like grab me 257 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 5: and make look in the eye and go, hey that book, yeah, 258 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 5: thank you, and it did this for me or that, 259 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 5: and that is I mean rewarding in a different way 260 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 5: than even successful movies I've done, because that was the 261 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 5: closest extension of me. The book was of any art 262 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 5: I've ever put out. You know. 263 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: Besides, we're so honest, you know, I mean the you know, 264 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: when you're open and you're starting to read it, you're like, wow, 265 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: you went straight with stuff with your mom and it 266 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: was just like okay, Like I mean, you took us 267 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: on the ride with that book, and it was I 268 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: loved how vulnerable you got in that book because you 269 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: humanized yourself. But you also, I mean, you're you're still 270 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: you know, Matthew McConaughey, and you have obviously the name 271 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: and all the things to your to your resume, but 272 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: like again, people look at you and it's like I 273 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: want to be like, hey, so how did you really 274 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: work through that with your mom and the forgiveness and 275 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: all those pieces, And it's just people can relate to 276 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: you because of that book, really truly. 277 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 5: I mean I've been yeah, I've been told that. I 278 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 5: think I think you know. Some people obviously, I think 279 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 5: picked it up. Maybe they were a fan of me 280 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 5: and my celebrity. Some people didn't get it because they 281 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 5: were not a fan of me and my celebrity. But 282 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,239 Speaker 5: I think anyone who looked at it, I've been told, said, oh, 283 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 5: we were past the celebrity part. On page ten, we 284 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 5: were like WHOA. At the same time, I think the 285 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 5: fact that you know was a celebrity that they looked 286 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 5: at and they're like, oh, I can relate than I 287 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 5: thought I could relate to you, And you're relating to 288 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 5: me more than I thought you could relate to me 289 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 5: talking about the human experience. So that's been a really 290 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 5: fun part of the ride with that book. And anyway, 291 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 5: now I got just because, which is really another enjoyable 292 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 5: conversation that is different with everybody I'm talking to. But 293 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 5: I've been having just as much conversation, more conversations I 294 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 5: think with adults about it than I even have with 295 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 5: children about it. 296 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, in the book too. 297 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 2: I mean you talk about the kid's book, it's you 298 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: talk about forgiveness and that as well. And so I'm curious, like, 299 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: what is your overall view on forgiveness? 300 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 5: Oh, that's a fun question. Yeah, you know the couplet 301 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 5: And just because of the young boy on the skateboard, 302 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 5: it said, just because I let go doesn't mean that 303 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 5: I stopped climbing. That was about forgiveness. And you know, 304 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 5: I mean everything we do, it seems to be in 305 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 5: life is between letting go and hanging on. It's either 306 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 5: between it or on the other side of it, right, 307 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 5: And when do you do this? I talk about it 308 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 5: in green lights? I talk about it to yellow light 309 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: What we have a choice? You know? Do I persist? 310 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 5: Do I hang on? Do I keep trying? Is this 311 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 5: about endurance, resilience, fortitude? Or do you go? You know what? No, 312 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 5: I'm letting go. And the world tells us a lot 313 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 5: of times, I think, probably especially males, if you let go, 314 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 5: it's weak. If you if you are vulnerable, if that 315 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 5: would be called vulnerable. If you forgive, that may be 316 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 5: a weakness. I remember I grew up, you never really 317 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 5: heard I've been around a lot of males that had 318 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 5: trouble saying two words, I'm sorry. I've to admitted I 319 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 5: even have trouble. 320 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: I married one. Actually I'm the incident. Yeah, we're working 321 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: on it now. 322 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 5: I'm working on it too. 323 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 4: We all are. 324 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: I actually have hard time saying it myself. 325 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 5: And it's and how much how much I think a 326 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 5: lot of times have the hardest time saying it too, 327 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 5: is ourselves. I'm the last one to forgive me, and 328 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 5: it's kind of arrogant of us. Actually, I think, you know, 329 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 5: to be like, oh, I'm so, I'm so right about 330 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 5: being judging jury about what I should forgive myself about. No, 331 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 5: I'm not forgiven. It's kind of area. It's kind of arrogant. 332 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 5: But forgiveness is a way of climbing, and it is 333 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 5: a way, and it frees up the forgiver even if 334 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 5: the person on the other side has done you wrong. 335 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 5: I mean that couple. It also ties into I may 336 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 5: forgive you, but that doesn't mean I still trust. That's 337 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 5: a form of forgiveness, you know what, forgive you, right, 338 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 5: but it doesn't mean I trust you anymore, especially if 339 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 5: you're a repeat offender and you've been doing me wrong 340 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: or fibbing to me over and over and over. I 341 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 5: mean want shame on you to I shame on me, 342 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 5: But I can forgive you because that frees the forgiver. 343 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 5: That frees the one doing the forgiving, regardless of what 344 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 5: the other one's doing or not doing, you know what 345 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 5: I mean. So it is a way of climbing in life, 346 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 5: evolving in life. 347 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: So I have a question for you, because I would say, naturally, 348 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: just as a forty two year old female in the 349 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: United States, I've always been a Matthew McConaughey fan because 350 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: that's just kind of like what we do. We just 351 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: love you, We think you're great. You're in all of 352 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: our favorite movies. But it's interesting to me because one 353 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: of the things as I did a deeper dive and 354 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: started to respect you as like a family man, a husband, 355 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: you know, a dad, is that it feels to me 356 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: like you've always been this very introspective human. Like you're 357 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: a very dapper human, but you're also a very introspective human, 358 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: which is one of the reasons I've always kind of 359 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: gravitated towards you. So have you always been introspective Matthew like, 360 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: you know, as I'm reading Green Lights and I'm reading 361 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: you building the Treehouse, which the cover of just because 362 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: is not lost on me at all. But as I'm 363 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: reading that, and I'm thinking, like, you always have seemed 364 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: to have this tie to your innertuition or like a 365 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: general discernment, even when you seemed care free, it felt 366 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: to me like you've just always been a deeper person. 367 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: So do you think, Matthew that so Treehouse Matthew and 368 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: fifty three year old husband father, Matthew has always been 369 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: the same in a sense, or has he evolved into 370 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: someone that you're just immensely proud of, like the world 371 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 3: is proud of you. 372 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 5: I mean, essentially the same. You know. That's one of 373 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 5: the things I learned when I wrote green Lights, which 374 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 5: is based on the fifty first fifty years of my life. Oh, 375 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 5: I remember a lot more than I thought I forgot. 376 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 5: Oh I'm essentially much closer to the same young person 377 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 5: that I thought I was not anymore. We learned it 378 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 5: when we become parents. Oh, nature a lot more powerful 379 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 5: than the nurture is very powerful, but nature has a 380 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 5: lot more to do with it than I thought when 381 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 5: I had children. DNA they are who they are. I mean, 382 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 5: i've I was. I think I was always introspective. And 383 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: whether it's whether it's preparation, I mean, I think the 384 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 5: introspection that I like to prepare and think about and 385 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 5: take context and observe and decide and think about it 386 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 5: this way or that way or this way in life 387 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 5: allows me to then come across or be Oh, he's lazy, fair, 388 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 5: he's relaxed. He kind of rolled out of bed and 389 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 5: kind of just did it, you know, he kind of 390 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 5: just I don't know, he's just winging it. But the introspection, 391 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 5: I think allows me to feel like and I like 392 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 5: to feel like I'm winging it. I like to be 393 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 5: unscripted in life, but it comes with a lot of context. 394 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 5: I mean, I like to, as I write in green lace, 395 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 5: create my weather so I can't blow in the breeds. 396 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 5: But I'm working on the weather and I'm looking at 397 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: the forecast. You know, what's ahead of me and choices 398 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 5: and what are going to be the consequences of choices 399 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 5: and what really matters here And try to understand the 400 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 5: other side of who I'm dealing with, What will be 401 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 5: the consequences for you if I do something this way 402 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 5: or that way, and so yeah, I think the introspection 403 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 5: is part of like daily preparing daily for life, and 404 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 5: you know it is you get it going. You got 405 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 5: a system going in this role and you don't have 406 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 5: to think of it. You don't want to think about it. 407 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: Everyone's catching green light kind of in a groove. We're 408 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 5: in a flow. Things are happening. I got in the 409 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 5: shortest line of supermarket again, you know what I mean. 410 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 5: That lasts, That lasts for a little while when you're 411 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 5: in it, you think that's it. Oh, I found it, 412 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 5: tadah No. 413 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 6: So a bogue'll call either you'll create it or the 414 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 6: world or create it right, or a child to get 415 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 6: sick or something, and it throws a wrench in the 416 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 6: whole thing, and then you just I mean, I think 417 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 6: I've I think I've always. 418 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 5: Had a pretty clear moral moral bottom line of who 419 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 5: who I am. I haven't always lived up to it, 420 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 5: I've i've, you know, but but I think I've had 421 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 5: a clear when when I when I was when I 422 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 5: was off track, I think I could recognize it and go, 423 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 5: that's that that that behavior is not going to last. 424 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 5: It's not going to bring you many residuals on af 425 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 5: you keep that up. That's what I talk about in Greenlights. 426 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 5: There's certain things I've done, like that this is a stop, 427 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: this is not a stay. You're renting this and go ahead, okay, 428 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 5: but know that this is not it's not you can't sustain. 429 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: This, you know, in just because though the book obviously 430 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 2: is a lot about lessons, and as we're all obviously moms, 431 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 2: what's something that a what is it kind of twofold? 432 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: What is one of the biggest lessons that you've learned 433 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: that has kind of shaped who you are? And then 434 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: what's a lesson that you wish that your parents would 435 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 2: have helped you with or taught you when you were younger? 436 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, what's a lesson I've learned? Let me answer maybe 437 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 5: the second one first, when they would have wish they 438 00:20:53,680 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 5: would have taught me? You know, we this something I 439 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 5: learned later in life. And it's a double edged sword 440 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 5: because it's almost like so many times in life, our 441 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 5: greatest strength can be our greatest weakness, especially if we 442 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 5: exaggerate that strength. Right my, my, my parents, we were 443 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 5: so resilient. It was so get up, dust yourself off, 444 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 5: come on, get up, do it. Again. You want you 445 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: want to quick quick righting about your shoes. I'm gonna 446 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 5: introduce you to give with no feats. Whoa you were 447 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 5: just like onto the baseline necessities. The thing is, if 448 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 5: you brush yourself off so quickly every single time you 449 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: step in doo doo, you're a repeat offender. You keep 450 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: stepping in the same pilot every time around the bend, 451 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 5: right because you never really stopped to go. Hang on 452 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 5: a second before I dust myself off, let me have 453 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 5: a look back over here. Oh there it is. I know, 454 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 5: I see where it is. I understand why I keep 455 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 5: stepping in it. So next time around the bend in 456 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 5: life we can go. I know this is where it's 457 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 5: coming up. I'm going to dodge it this time. So, 458 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 5: my that was one of my great resilience is one 459 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 5: of my greatest strains. I would even say preparations one 460 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 5: of my greatest strains. But when I over exaggerate those, 461 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 5: I can be a repeat offender and just have great 462 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 5: resilience and endurance. But boy, I get up. I keep 463 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 5: dusting myself off instead of maybe learning. If I prepare, prepare, prepare. 464 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 5: I love to prepare. Well, sometimes I can prepare myself, 465 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 5: I'm going to go, and like, well, I prepared myself 466 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 5: right through doing it, you know what I mean. So 467 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 5: it's knowing when to Some of those are two of 468 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 5: my greatest strains, I think, but also two things that 469 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 5: I have to watch exaggerating so they don't become a weakness. 470 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 5: And the first side of that question, what was it? 471 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 5: What is one of the things maybe I learned from 472 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 5: them that from. 473 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 2: My parents, well you wish you what have I think 474 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: you kind of answered that though too, see. 475 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 5: I would have had that. I kind of I learned 476 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 5: that later on, like in my thirties. I realized that, 477 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 5: and I didn't go, oh, damn it, Mom, damn it, Dad, 478 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 5: why didn't you teach me that? I just noticed, Oh, 479 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 5: we never really keep I keep doing this. And because 480 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 5: my mom is that she's she is really an example 481 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 5: of the value of denial if you truly commit to it. 482 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: I resonate with. 483 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: That our therapy session last week with our therapists around 484 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 2: the same thing and then having to just go, okay, 485 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: but you know, they don't they didn't do the therapy, 486 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: and that they don't know the boundaries. And now I'm 487 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: feeling like I'm the adult and it's like, wait a minute, 488 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: I'm just like, but they're also my moms, you know, 489 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: our moms. We're trying to figure out how to go 490 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: on with with having all these things that you wish 491 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: that they would do. 492 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 5: But shouldn't we just give them some amnesty though, especially 493 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 5: that then that age, it's like, because we learned it, 494 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 5: I try to change my mom. I talk about it 495 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 5: in Greenlights. For eight years, her and I had a 496 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 5: strained relationship where I could not have more than a 497 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 5: conversation of how mom doing good? Love you by anything 498 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 5: she asked me. I couldn't tell her personally because she 499 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 5: didn't have a governor. She could go to the she'd 500 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 5: go to the press. She showed up on our copy 501 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 5: taking people through my childhood rooms in and this is 502 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 5: where he lost his virginity. And I'm like, mom, She's like, oh, 503 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 5: I didn't think anybody would know. I didn't think he 504 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 5: maybe watching. He was like, no, it's just eight years 505 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 5: where I could not talk to her. I tried to 506 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: change her. I need she's a mom right now, not 507 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 5: a fan, and. 508 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: I didn't have You know, isn't that we're kind of 509 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: like the forgiveness But I don't trust you. Part that 510 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: comes in that is, I mean, that's I think what 511 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: we've had. I've had to do with my own mother, 512 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: who had those situations with I think you get to 513 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: a point where you can forgive them, but you can't 514 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: trust them and they may not be a mother figure to. 515 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 5: You or and I think we have to just go 516 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 5: my my hunch when I was wanted to, when I 517 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 5: but I tried to pull off. I kept trying to go, well, 518 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 5: I'm going to give you more information to see if 519 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 5: I can trust you with it again, and it's like 520 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 5: we're trying to prove that point. Just don't give it 521 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 5: to them, don't give them that much, and just go 522 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 5: that's where our relationship is, and let's let's make it 523 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 5: healthy and fun with what we can both handle. And 524 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 5: do you say, oh, but it's a shallow relationship. Now, 525 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 5: let's not, I say shallow. There's a lot of people 526 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: that I friends and relationships I have in my life 527 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 5: that I think are better because they are at arms length. 528 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 5: We don't need full, close up, all detail, all access 529 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 5: intimacy with everybody in our life. It's overload. There's some 530 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 5: people I like running into a couple of times a year. 531 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 5: That's where we're best. 532 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've learned that too. Not everyone gets an all access. 533 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: I'd get I'd get everybody a VIP all access tell 534 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: you everything. And now I've like, you know, almost forty 535 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that list has gone down to just 536 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: maybe one hand now of you know, the access port, 537 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: because you realize really it's just yeah, I'm in a 538 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: season of relationship within capacity and that's just how I 539 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: keep it. 540 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: My mom is in that list. 541 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think that's okay. We've had that 542 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: conversation several times about our moms and you know, how 543 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: do you get to that point of just being okay 544 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: with that being at a place I think I've been 545 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: there longer than y'all have or you know, I don't know, 546 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: but it's kind of you get to that place where like, 547 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: that's okay, this is what the relationship looks like, and 548 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. 549 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 550 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 6: I think that. 551 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 5: I think that's the place to get to because it's 552 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 5: it's amnesty for them and us. 553 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 554 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: That's what I was going to say. 555 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: It's more relieving for me at that point, honestly, just 556 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 3: to go, I know what I'm dealing with and it 557 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 3: is what it is. And I think we sometimes in 558 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 3: our age groups will say, like, for us, it feels 559 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: like we've like failed or we've there's an acceptance that 560 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: feels like it comes with some sort of guilt or 561 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 3: like failure. But that's not it. It's just like we 562 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: can observe. And that's what I've always Actually, one of 563 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 3: the few words I would use top few words to 564 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 3: describe you from my seat is just a girl in 565 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 3: America is you're a very observant human. And that to 566 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: me has never come across like you know, lazier unprepared 567 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 3: to me, it's just always like he's taking it in. 568 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 3: It's intentional behavior. And I think your wife just recently 569 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: spoke out about that too, that everyone's got this idea 570 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: of who Matthew McConaughey is. And she's like, listen, you 571 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: don't know what is stunning by the way she is. 572 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: She's a beautiful human. She's teaching me how to make 573 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: you know coleslaw without. 574 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 4: Mayo online, and I'm like, I. 575 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: Love this chick. 576 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: She's awesome. Do you feel like that is? 577 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: Is it been interesting to just watch her say what 578 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: she knows to be true and to talk about the relate. 579 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: Even she talks about the relationship with your mom. 580 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, well I'm you know, we also I would say 581 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 5: this my family and part of the I think Camilla 582 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 5: and I as well, we shares the value of sense 583 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 5: of humor in comedy. I mean, the stuff she said 584 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 5: about my mom and my mom calling her different name, 585 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 5: that right, it passes that and issue. Some people are like, 586 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, no, this was this is good And 587 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 5: Camilla's wasn't wounded about it either. It was just it 588 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 5: was just it's funny. It's for some people, you know. 589 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 5: I mean, look, we say this all the time in 590 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 5: my family, and what tickles us may bruce others, you know, 591 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 5: but but we but it's that's just too And the 592 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 5: people go to, you know, were you mad at your 593 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 5: Mom's like, no, that's again, I'm not changing her. That's mom. 594 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 5: She was looking out for her youngest. She didn't know 595 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 5: my feelings, but she tested my feelings and tested the 596 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 5: woman that I had the feelings for. That's kind oft 597 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: in the big picture, he got it's pretty cool actually, 598 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 5: and the woman that I was in love with went 599 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 5: right through it. And when she went through it, and 600 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 5: stood up and said, hey, miss McConaughey, let me tell 601 00:28:54,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 5: you something. My mom went there weak and you know, So, 602 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 5: I mean it's we you know, we're pretty honest. We're 603 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 5: awesome about who we are we as you were talking 604 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 5: about filters, not that we're not an open book. I mean, 605 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 5: I I We've been doing this long enough to know 606 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 5: I can tell when the thought comes to my mind 607 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 5: it's about to come out of my mouth. Oh if 608 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 5: I say that, that's going to be a headline. Ooh 609 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 5: if I say there. You know, certain things in the 610 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 5: Book of Greenlights, there are certain things to be like 611 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 5: why didn't you explain in the opening some of these 612 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 5: incidents like no, no, no, no, because that would have 613 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 5: been the headline and that's not what the book was about. 614 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 615 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 5: So, I mean, but I try to we try to 616 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: not make it as hard. You know, when you first 617 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 5: when you're first starting, and I know when I first 618 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 5: got famous and at Mike's in front of my face, 619 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 5: I was given I had two years of giving the 620 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 5: most boring interviews in the world because I had stock answers, 621 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 5: because I didn't want to be fresh and off the cuff. 622 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 5: And that's a great question. And then be frank and 623 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 5: be honest. No, I was just given these stock answers 624 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 5: and they were okay, but damn they were boring. And 625 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: you do it for a while, you get to go. 626 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 5: You kind of know what you what's worth sharing, Know 627 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 5: that yes I'm talking to the three of you, but 628 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 5: yes this is being recorded, and yes we'll be broadcast. 629 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 5: Unlike what my mother said when she had CBS or 630 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 5: the hard copy in the house. He goes, I thought 631 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 5: it was just me and the cameraman. Yeah, that camera, 632 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 5: that tool. I mean, bring you and a whole lot 633 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 5: more people. 634 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: Right well in just because what do you like? What's 635 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: the overall message that you want kids to to have 636 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: when you know, when when they're done reading it, and 637 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: when the mom or dad is. 638 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 5: Hey to Life's life's about, life's poetry, life's in you 639 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 5: into life's context. What may you may feel one way 640 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 5: today and you may feel different way tomorrow about the 641 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: same situation. Instead of that being like, oh my gosh, 642 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 5: there's something wrong with me. No, that's okay. We are 643 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 5: all walking contradictions, consistently contradictions that two things can be 644 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 5: true at the same time, that I can I can 645 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 5: wake up and be in a great mood and send 646 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 5: you a text and I forgot to put the wink 647 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 5: emoji on it. But you had a bad morning because 648 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 5: your dog's sick, and you received that text and it 649 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 5: sounds like I'm coming at you. Oh, you know, I 650 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 5: don't know where you are. You don't know where I am, 651 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 5: but hey, can I take the time to go? Oh? 652 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 5: You didn't receive that in the same way that I 653 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 5: gave that. Oh, okay, because I just thought it was obvious. No, 654 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 5: it's not always obvious. So checking in where someone else is, 655 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 5: you know how many times a year kids and adults. 656 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 5: I know I do it myself and I'm excited and 657 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 5: I'm really nervous. Well, when you're young, you're like, is 658 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 5: that okay to feel those two things at the same time. 659 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 5: I think I need to feel I'm supposed to feel 660 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 5: one of the other. Right, No, I just need to 661 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 5: be excited. No, you're excited, but you can be nervous 662 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: at the same time. That's how it works, Just to 663 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 5: know that's okay. As children are growing and finding out 664 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 5: their own identity, trying to figure out who I am, 665 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 5: who they are, and it swings all over and it 666 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 5: goes here and then it goes over here to go 667 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 5: that's okay, instead of getting so frustrated or confused. That's 668 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 5: what I hope children get out of it, and I 669 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 5: hope the adults, those adults are reminded of that. Because 670 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 5: there's a proper leniency that we can better have with 671 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 5: each other and ourselves. There's also spots where we have 672 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 5: to say the buck stops here, and I'm not putting 673 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 5: up with it anymore, you know, But we can be 674 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 5: more properly lenient with ourselves than others, and I think 675 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 5: understand and still make a choice about what we want 676 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 5: to do. Make a judgment, be discerning, but here are 677 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 5: both sides of the story. I understand both sides of 678 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 5: the situation before we do. 679 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: Dude, I think I'm still trying to and that that almost. 680 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 5: For we all are, right. 681 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, The part in just because it says even though 682 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: I am still doesn't mean that I'm not busy was 683 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: something that really hit me in this. I'm in a 684 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: very observant season right now, just a lot of grief 685 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: and then working through that. You know, you learn so 686 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 3: much through grief, and you learn what's important and you 687 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: learn what's noise and what's valuable information. And so I 688 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: love books like this to sit with my little ones 689 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: and be able to like read it, but at the 690 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: same time just be reminded of like all of the 691 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: holding of both and like that's a big thing on 692 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: this on the show all the time. 693 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: I have an and tattoo on my thing from therapy 694 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: and going through divorce. It's like I'm allowed to be 695 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: broken and hopeful at the same time. 696 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, still and busy or yes. 697 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 5: And is the paradox, which I think is where the 698 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 5: truth of living is. It's you know a lot of 699 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 5: people go that don't bring that word up into mighty 700 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 5: big word. It's a cool word, I mean. And actually 701 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 5: I think when we admit just admitting how we're contradictions, 702 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 5: then if contracts become something really valuable, which is the paradox, 703 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 5: which is both are true, two things can be true 704 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 5: at the same time. Comes from my favorite Bible verse 705 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 5: in the Bible, Matthew six twenty two. If they iv single, 706 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 5: the whole body will be full of light. That's all 707 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 5: about judgment, that's all about this perceived duality. We see. 708 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 5: If two things are posing, so they must floodhead. And 709 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 5: if they meld if they come together. Oh that's compromised. 710 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 5: Well no, maybe it's not compromise. Maybe it's actually just 711 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 5: a whole lot more truth. 712 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 3: And I witness when we do that and have the 713 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 3: vulnerability to say, like, listen, I'm not nailing it or 714 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 3: I'm holding both of these things at once. It's so 715 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: interesting because it's almost impossible for people to live in 716 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: a fence with you when you have that kind of 717 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 3: maturity or that kind of acceptance of just what things 718 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 3: are what they are in this moment. Do you find 719 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 3: that that's true. 720 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 5: Old fence live it. Yes, Yes, it's true. Yeah, it is. 721 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 5: It's it's that that's the opening couplet. Just because they 722 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 5: threw the dart doesn't mean that it's stuck. It's like 723 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 5: when you're in that that head spirit frame, they can 724 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 5: I can throw the dart, but it can't stick unless 725 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 5: you let it right in that d space that thing 726 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 5: just thing involves you can't stick. I'm not going there. 727 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just because you threw it doesn't mean it's sticking. 728 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: I know, we only have like one more minute with you, 729 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: but I know, Kat, we were because we were talking 730 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: about I'm like, you know, with my my youngest or 731 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 2: not my oldest, actually she's almost eight. But Mama was like, honey, 732 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: you want to talk to me or you can tell 733 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: me anything. And we were reading the breakdown, and. 734 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I was, you know, I saw that 735 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: you had talked about you and your wife. How you 736 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: so I have a preteen, a teenager and then a 737 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: younger one as well, so closer in ages with you. 738 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: But how you don't want or expect your children to 739 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: tell you everything, right, And I'm very intrigued by that 740 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: because you know, I grew up in a family where 741 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about anything, so I've kind of gone 742 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: that opposite, like I want us to talk about everything. 743 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: So I'm very intrigued and kind of your reasoning behind that, 744 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: and you know how that works for you guys. 745 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 2: And also I'm in the car with my daughter being 746 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: like I can see she sat out the window, and 747 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,479 Speaker 2: I just want her to be so frickin' happy, because 748 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: you know, I feel maybe she's thinking about I don't know, 749 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: like she's got two houses or I don't know what 750 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: I make up that she's thinking. But I'm like, honey, 751 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: you know you can talk to me whenever you want 752 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: to talk to me and you can tell me everything. 753 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, and I just now I feel like 754 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 2: she almost shuts down more because I'm like down her. 755 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know. It's and then and go. 756 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 5: In all relationships, there is value in plain hard to 757 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 5: get so interesting with kids, you know, Oh, make them 758 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 5: come chase you a little bit, you know what I mean. 759 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 5: But the the I want, I want him to have access, 760 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 5: and I want to keep access with them, and I 761 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 5: want to time to be a friend. And there's damn 762 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 5: sure time to be a parent, especially in the early years. 763 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 5: You know, they don't they needed as parents more than friends. 764 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 5: But that friend is is I'll share with you. But 765 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 5: I also want look at Treehouse on the cover that 766 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 5: in my childhood, that's where I had my secrets. That 767 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 5: was my place, notim. I wouldn't tell my parents. Maybe 768 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 5: a friend or two that show, but that's where I 769 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 5: wrote things down. That's why we have a diary or 770 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 5: a journal. It's not for us to see. And I 771 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 5: want to let my kids know I'm not opening your journal. 772 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 5: I'm not opening that's yours. 773 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 4: Damn. I mean, I've opened to her journal. You're a 774 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: journal opener. 775 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 5: I am. I don't know things, but there's some things. 776 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 5: I mean, in a realistic I don't want to. There's 777 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 5: things that my wife I don't want to. I don't know, 778 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 5: and leave mine eye do going to go through mine? 779 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 5: I'm not. I don't want to, and I want my 780 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 5: kids to get out. Look, it's kind of like a 781 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 5: want them to get We want our kids to get 782 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 5: up to some goodsif some good healthy misschief. We want 783 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 5: them to fall and skin their knee. Don't necessarily want 784 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 5: to fall and break their arm, but we want them 785 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 5: to send their knee, you know what I mean. I 786 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 5: don't want to insulate them so much. It's got that 787 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 5: metaphor for like we all had our kids climbing in 788 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,959 Speaker 5: the tree, and it's like they're out there, they fell 789 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 5: from there, and that that's gonna hurt, and you kind 790 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 5: of look at where they fall on and it's grass, 791 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 5: it's st augustin. Well, that'll soften a little bit. And 792 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 5: then all of a sudden they get up to a 793 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 5: certain height. I fackt nervous right now because they'll get 794 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 5: nervous and they haven't fallen yet. Children are afraid of 795 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 5: heights until they fall. So you're like, I don't want 796 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 5: to be afraid of heights too early. But I do 797 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 5: want to say, hey, j in here, Mom needs to 798 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 5: talk to you. We got your friends. Come up. Yeah, 799 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 5: they're here right now. Just take your time, come on 800 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 5: down right and you're sitting there going oh, if they'd 801 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 5: have fallen from that, that could have been really really bad, 802 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 5: you know. So I wanted to get up to some mischief. 803 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 5: I want him to have some secrets that I want 804 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 5: to tell them. You know what, don't tell me that. 805 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 5: And that's also a version indirectly of playing hard to get. 806 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 5: That's actually sometimes when they will tell us. 807 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 4: Thanks, that's really good tips right there. I'll like to 808 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 4: go home and I have to replay don't tell me. 809 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 4: I like that. 810 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: Well, it's like how do you get a kid to 811 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 3: smile on a picture? You tell them don't smile? 812 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 4: Don't you do it? Yeah? Well, Matthew, thank you. 813 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 2: I have one rapid fire for you just because of 814 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 2: our our our, the age we are, Andy or Mary. 815 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: That's all I gotta know how to lose a guy 816 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 2: in ten day's our wedding planner? 817 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 4: Oh, Andy or Mary? 818 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 2: I need one. You have to just pick one. You 819 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 2: have to give it to me. Nope, there's no there's 820 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: don't give me the like, oh, I'm going to play 821 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 2: both sides, and it doesn't have. 822 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 5: The actresses from the classic romantic comedies of all time. 823 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 5: We're class yeah, rom com of all time. It's a 824 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 5: gift that keeps on giving to me too. I mean 825 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 5: there's some people that come up on Valentine's Day, Mother's 826 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 5: Day throughout the year and they are like, they come 827 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: right up, they how's the fern? 828 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 4: You let it die? 829 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, enough said, I love it. Well, Matthew, 830 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on wine down. We 831 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: appreciate it so so so much. 832 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 3: Thanks for letting it be excited and nervous. 833 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 4: We love you. 834 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 5: Talk to you next time. 835 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: Okay, thanks bye. 836 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 4: Okay, that guys, that was like great, Yeah, it. 837 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: Was so good. 838 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 2: He doesn't allow you to be nervous, by the way. 839 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 2: I wanted to just I'm like, I can't open a can. 840 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 5: There we go. 841 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 4: There. 842 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad you pulled that last question. 843 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 3: I was. 844 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: I was like, we got a wrap. I was scared 845 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: to go into it. 846 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 4: Got you but this is such an important question. 847 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: I know, but I was like, there's so many things 848 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: with it, but I think we covered it like in 849 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. 850 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 4: It was great. Yeah, I love him. He's smart too. 851 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 4: Again with those words. 852 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: The thing is is I wanted his advice on like everything. 853 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, could you just sit with me and tell 854 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: me how to like be a person, Because essentially. 855 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 3: I told my husband before I left the house this. 856 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,479 Speaker 3: Maria said, he goes, well, what do you want to say? 857 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 3: And I said, really, I just want to say, give 858 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 3: me a commencement speed, Like yeah, I just I'm in 859 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 3: need of that. 860 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 4: Like he's so wise. 861 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 2: You want to drive in a car. I want to 862 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 2: drive in a Lincoln with him. Oh God, that'd be 863 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 2: so interesting. 864 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 3: I read Green Lights the book, like actually I love books, 865 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 3: like to turn the pages like a literal book, you know, 866 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 3: instead of like a Kindle version or whatever. And then 867 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 3: I often will couple it with listening to the audio 868 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 3: so I don't have to miss a book. I can 869 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 3: keep doing it unfolding laundry or whatever. And when the 870 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 3: baby was really really little, I that Green Lights is 871 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 3: what kept me Like I mean, I was just flying, 872 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 3: I was just in. It was just so beautiful and 873 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 3: you're in this like very raw hormonal moment where everything 874 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 3: the world has opened up, and you've been in the 875 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: thin places. And then I tried to listen to the 876 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 3: audio book and I I couldn't get the Lincoln commercial 877 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 3: out of my head. And I think I got to 878 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 3: go back to just reading the pages as I read 879 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 3: it in a different voice than him. 880 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: I would love to hear him reading. 881 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 4: Well, most moms did enjoy. 882 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 1: Say that's just going to do when I get done. 883 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 3: My husband came to the lawndroom and he goes, is 884 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: that Matthew McConaughey, And is it? 885 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 4: Indeed it is? Here's your Honday zo. 886 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 3: Well, all right, all right, all right, what an icon 887 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 3: you guys iconic Matthew Khane. Y'all get his kid's book 888 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: just because I mean, I I truly want to read it. 889 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 4: Oh yes, for me too. 890 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: I think my copy lands today on my porch. 891 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 4: Actually I got it, just amazoned it a couple of days. 892 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: And I'm going to go buy journals for my kids 893 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: and say, hey, you write in your journal. You don't 894 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: have to tell me. 895 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 4: I know, I'm such a it's hard, but he's right. 896 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 4: I mean, there's so much true you. 897 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 3: Guys, just think about I think about that a lot, 898 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 3: and I know that I know that we have all 899 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 3: walked a very honest with each other, whether we share 900 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 3: all the details on the podcast specifically or out of 901 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 3: just respect, we keep ourselves here. But I feel like 902 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 3: we all grew up in a way. There is some 903 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 3: there is some good old days to what we all experienced. 904 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 3: Like I mean, I was doing things I shouldn't be doing. 905 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 3: I was, you know it, partying in cornfields and bonfires, 906 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 3: and like, I want my kids to have those memories. 907 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 3: But then it's like the falling out of the tree 908 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 3: thing you talked about. I mean, I'm the girl that's 909 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 3: down there with like a safety net and a harness and. 910 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 4: A caribbeane or going there too, you know. But that's 911 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 4: not well. 912 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,959 Speaker 1: I think it's hard in this day and age because 913 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm not a helicopter parent. In that situation, I'm like, 914 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: let them go, let them run, let them do, let 915 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: them fall. But then with like like phones and all that, 916 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm very much a helicopter parent and I cannot figure 917 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: out that like. 918 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 4: That's smart though, yeah, I agree it. 919 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: Is, But I think there also has to be a 920 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a I don't have to say, well, 921 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: what's going on here? I get really bad about them, 922 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: like what's going on with this girl here? What's going 923 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: on with this there? And so I have to back 924 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: away and only really pay attention to the really important 925 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: in fall maybe in their friendships or maybe you know, 926 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: learn those lessons. And that's so hard for me. 927 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 4: That's because you're a good mom. 928 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also can step in a little too much. 929 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 2: I think, because well, for me, I make up that 930 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: I'm doing that because I want to be a different 931 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 2: version of my parents, well saying of what my my 932 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: younger child needed. So I might be you talk to me, 933 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 2: they tell me, and I'm there for you. 934 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 3: And so one thing I did do just recently is 935 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 3: I explained to love that there's kind of two friends 936 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: and two types of friends in the world. And they'll 937 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 3: be a type of friend that needs to tell somebody 938 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 3: it's in their DNA. The minute you tell them something, 939 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 3: they have to tell one other person. That's just who 940 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 3: they are. And there's people like that. And I said, 941 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: and there's other people that you can tell that are 942 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 3: a vault you know that you just need to say 943 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 3: something to you know, it's safe and they can keep 944 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 3: it in like a little house and it's not a secret. 945 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 3: It's just private information. And I said, I am a 946 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 3: vault friend and she said, wait, what do you mean. 947 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 3: So we were talking about it and I said, well, 948 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 3: I know stuff about like all my friends, you know, 949 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 3: and I don't want to tell anybody, and it's okay 950 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 3: because I'm safe to them. I was like, not being 951 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 3: a good friend, y'all. This chick opened up her vault 952 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 3: and started filling the cutest. She was like, I gotta 953 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 3: tell you. Emmy asked a boy to marry him and 954 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 3: he said yes, and it. 955 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: Was just precious. 956 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 3: But I thought, like all of the time, I'm so like, well, 957 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 3: you can tell me anything. But I'm also like a 958 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 3: little hood too. I feel like she can tell I'll 959 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 3: get like angry or irritated with people, and I'm not 960 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 3: afraid to with the records true, you know, right, But 961 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 3: I think then she's like nervous about me in a 962 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 3: different way than I was nervous about my parents. 963 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: It's we just have Me and Emmy just had this 964 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: conversation the other day because we're kind of talking about 965 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: like the hierarchy, hierarchy and friendships and I was like, okay, 966 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: so this one is this is the girl that rules 967 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 1: the roost. She's deciding who's friends with who this week. 968 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: Y'all are upset right now because you're not in with her. 969 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: But guess what, you're talking trash right now. You're gonna 970 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: want to be friends with her next week, you know. 971 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be mad when you asked me to 972 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: have her over next week because you're telling me everything 973 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: that she's She was like, okay, got it, So that's 974 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: where that's coming in. I'm like, you kind of can't 975 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: tell me all that because then Mama bears coming out 976 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, she ain't coming to my house. 977 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: I don't like her, you know, or whatever. So it's 978 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: just all so interesting, and that age starts, Oh yeah, 979 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: it's fun. 980 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 3: I had to talk with Amma at school, my own 981 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 3: one on one top it Michigan moms are wired different. 982 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, yeah, it's just she got in there. 983 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes she got to. 984 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 4: Did you know what? 985 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 3: The fact that we even care this much, I think 986 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 3: means that we're on a good track. 987 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 1: Just take a should be too hard on our hand. 988 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: Well, everyone go get just because because because because we 989 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: all need it, Okay, And