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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Better Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are here with a bonus episode.

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Speaker 1: You guys have asked for it and everyone's talking about

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Charles to the podcast. Charles, you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you good.

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Speaker 2: I'm terrific. Thanks, you know, everybody.

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Speaker 1: How's everything going?

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Speaker 2: So far so good? You know, as if you like

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Speaker 2: during the you know, filming time, you know, as as

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Speaker 2: you probably noticed that I've been traveling also, so I

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Speaker 2: do hear the news or feedback. Particularly, I want to

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Speaker 2: thank my fans, you know, I want to thank for

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Speaker 2: their love and support. As you know, some of the

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Speaker 2: information is coming from my daughter Sofia. So so far,

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Speaker 2: so good. I'm very happy, and so I'm very grateful

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Speaker 2: to everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very very well deserved. Where you've been traveling? Where

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Speaker 1: are you currently right now?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Good? You know, the trip was planned way way early,

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Speaker 2: you know, and as Sofia said, oh, Daddy, you really

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Speaker 2: should be here this time in the States rather than traveling.

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Speaker 2: But I thought, Sofia, you know, unfortunately or fortunately this

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Speaker 2: travel plan was kind of you know, scheduled way way early.

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Speaker 2: So first I went to London. You know, to attend

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Speaker 2: friends a dollar's wedding, so you have to have some

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Speaker 2: kind of British accent, you know.

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Speaker 1: When I'm there, we were we were actually we were

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Speaker 1: actually just in London. We just got back.

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Speaker 3: Ye were nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when I was in London, you know, I also

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Speaker 2: sneak out a few hours here and there and visited

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Speaker 2: Buckingham and I observe something. So I did make some comments.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe some fans already saw my comments

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Speaker 2: and they might join me, you know, to to help

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Speaker 2: a little bit, to clean up. You know, I don't

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Speaker 2: it's appropriate, but that's my personality, you know, I try

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Speaker 2: to do something that I can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 3: So just to clarify, you were cleaning up Buckingham Palace.

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Speaker 2: Oh not yet, No, no, you think they should.

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Speaker 1: You thought it was journey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a kind of idea. You know, I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: you know, clean here and there. So this is what

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Speaker 2: I saw, and this is the kind of idea. And

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Speaker 2: I think there are quite a few echoes from my fans.

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Speaker 2: You know. It's a good thing note and a good suggestion.

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Speaker 2: So if I be there next time, of course, I

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Speaker 2: have to ask for permission. First, you know, as you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, the police may arrest me for whatever reason,

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Speaker 2: you know, So that's that's the first trip there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: do you have something? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you have Do you have a favorite a favorite

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, honestly everywhere, you know when I travel, I

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Speaker 2: love seems like, you know, all the places that I

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Speaker 2: something to do with the water, anything river or water.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of my favorite area. So in London, the Paris,

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Speaker 2: you know, when I see the rivers there, I'm always excited.

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Speaker 1: Got it? And then where where are you podcasting from

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 2: Oh? And now I'm in China near Shanghai. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, visiting my relatives, friends, you know, a classmates, teachers,

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Speaker 2: you know, and also do some side scene. But of course,

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Speaker 2: you know, one major party is really really enjoy my

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Speaker 2: childhood food?

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Speaker 3: And what's your favorite food from your childhood fish?

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Speaker 1: Fish? Yeah. How how old were you when you came

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Speaker 2: Somewhere around the twenty six okay, yes, around twenty six

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Speaker 2: years old. Yeah, I mean I was very young, you

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Speaker 1: And what where did you where'd you come? What state?

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Speaker 2: The first? The city? Well, besides I went to the States,

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Speaker 2: I also went to other countries briefly. But anyway, I

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Speaker 2: went to Boston first, Okay, and I love it. It's a

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm not qualified to attend those kind of colleges.

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Speaker 1: But how many people Not many people are, Charles, Not

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Speaker 3: So did you come to the States for work purposes?

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Speaker 2: No? I came to the States as a graduate student. Okay,

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Speaker 3: And then what do you do for work? Now?

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, now I'm retired, but I kind of switched,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's what you did.

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Speaker 2: That I made a living.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you like it? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I really enjoyed it, as you probably can

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Speaker 2: tell now my personality. You know, I love people, and

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Speaker 2: luckily people love me, so I really enjoyed it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about how you got on a

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Speaker 1: show like The Golden Bachelorette.

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Speaker 2: It's a kind of accident in a sense. You know,

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Speaker 2: a few months ago, when Sophia and my daughter, you know,

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch Golden Bachelor before, you know, for the

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Speaker 2: younger or senior age groups. So she showed me. Then

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Speaker 2: the next day she continued show me some episode, explained,

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Speaker 2: discuss Then suddenly she said, Dad, you should apply for

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Speaker 2: this program. I said, what she said, You'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: But also I said, you know, I mean even during

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Speaker 2: or accept she said, you never know, you know, just

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't remember exactly. The next morning or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's when it that's when it goes quick.

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Speaker 1: Before you, before you applied for the show, were you

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Speaker 2: No? No, yeah, probably heard. I don't know how many

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Speaker 2: as you the COVID nineteen situation, so no, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then did you feel ready to start dating when

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Speaker 1: you decided to go on the Golden Bachelorette.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking of that, but still not totally ready.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well you have had such a positive response from

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Speaker 3: Were you excited? Were you attracted to Joan? What was

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Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, first of all, I would say from the

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Speaker 2: and it was very easy to communicate, and obviously, you know,

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Speaker 2: conversation went on pretty pretty smooth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what was it like getting into the house

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Speaker 1: after you meet Jown and realizing that you are about

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Speaker 2: First of all, the first impression of the mansion was great.

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Speaker 2: But when I entered, it's a kind of feeling wow,

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Speaker 2: It's a huge, huge, you know, cooking area.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you cook? Mm hmm? What what's your what's

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Speaker 2: I would say, you know, Jue, next time when you

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Speaker 1: Okay, what kind of fish?

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Speaker 2: Fish? Yeah? I mean I can cook a many many,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to drink Sophia to be your sou chef,

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Speaker 3: right right, So.

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Speaker 1: Out of all the guys, who are you closest with.

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Speaker 2: This is this is a very very difficult question to answer.

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Speaker 2: Why mathematically, I think that they are pretty very equal.

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Speaker 1: Was there was there anyone that you didn't like?

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Speaker 2: Nope?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what was what was Charles? What was happening with you?

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Speaker 1: What was happening with you? And Gary? You guys went

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Speaker 1: to a convenience store? What were you buying?

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Speaker 2: and find something very nice. So we got them and

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Speaker 2: I didn't test, but I think that those items will

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Speaker 2: and I told her story and she was very very sad.

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Speaker 2: So that's the sacond. And you know you have the third.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're lucky as myself, you know, when

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Speaker 2: it's the time you should have moved on.

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Speaker 1: I think that's yeah, I think that's good advice. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to play a quick game? We're gonna play

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Speaker 1: a game with you.

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Speaker 2: I beg your pardon, Joe, you want to you want.

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Speaker 1: To play a game, We're gonna play a quick game.

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Speaker 1: Get to know a little about it.

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Speaker 2: Pick a ball is a one off game? Or I

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Speaker 2: love to play chess.

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Speaker 1: No, we're gonna play a game right now, now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna just I'm gonna ask you. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you a bunch of questions and it's about

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Speaker 1: you and the first thing that comes to your head. Okay, sure,

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Speaker 1: all right, it's rapid fire, so you don't have to

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Speaker 1: overthink them. Okay, sure, all right. This is get to

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Speaker 1: know Charles favorite food or cuisine fish, yah, favorite place you.

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Speaker 2: Visited, any any Rivers related.

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Speaker 1: Favorite thing about being a parent, m reading, favorite Britney

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Speaker 1: Spears song.

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Speaker 2: That might be tough, but as I mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 2: I listened to all kinds of songs. But I'm not

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Speaker 2: a kind of artist. So any something nice with I listen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, favorite way to unwind after a long day.

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Speaker 2: Relax.

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Speaker 1: What's the most adventurous thing you've ever done?

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Speaker 2: Call me into some very high mountain?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I like that? What mountain?

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Speaker 2: And what they call it? A yellow mountain in China?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Wow? What was the elevation on that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly, but pretty high?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Go to drink at a bar.

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Speaker 2: For me, I would grab a beer. May disappoint you beer, No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: If you could have one superpower, what would it be?

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Speaker 2: Boy finance?

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Speaker 1: I like that? Me too? Me too, Charles, me too.

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Speaker 1: What's one thing you would tell your younger.

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Speaker 2: Self caring about yourself and others?

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Speaker 1: And if you could sum up Jones season of The

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Speaker 1: Golden Bachelorette in one word, what would it be?

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Speaker 2: Spectactular? Wow?

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Speaker 1: I love that. I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Charles, Well, it's been such a pleasure having you

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Speaker 3: on to chat with us today. Thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for taking the time. But before you go, could you

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Speaker 3: close out this episode with a few bars from the

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Speaker 3: Mansion Men song if you remember it?

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Speaker 2: Sure you know the Kam's fame fame of science, like

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Speaker 2: we are the mentionment and someone and so forth. You

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Speaker 2: know these sound way better than myself. Yeah, but we'll

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Speaker 2: got the gist. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, Charles, thank you so much. We really appreciate you

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Speaker 1: taking the time. And to all our listeners, thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for tuning in to Better Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: We'll have exclusive interviews and recaps coming for you every week.

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