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Speaker 2: until the Super Bowl, and get ready, get ready for
Speaker 2: the conversation to be all about the Chiefs get all
Speaker 2: the calls. We just had Nick right on, who is
Speaker 2: a big Kanas City chief fan, and basically saying, boohoo,
Speaker 2: if the Chiefs get all the calls, why didn't you
Speaker 2: bet on the Chiefs because you would have made a
Speaker 2: lot of money. He's got a point. If you think
Speaker 2: it's rigged, bet on the Chiefs. If you think the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl's rigged, bet on the Chiefs. Chiefs are favored
Speaker 2: by one and a half, some places favored by two.
Speaker 2: But that, unfortunately, will be the rhetoric leading up to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. It'll be about the Kansas City Chiefs,
Speaker 2: and there's you know, you're going to have two fan
Speaker 2: bases there. But if you said, you know the fan
Speaker 2: bases outside of Philly in Kansas City, they're probably if
Speaker 2: you don't have a dog in the fight, you're rooting
Speaker 2: for Kansas City to lose. Not necessarily Philadelphia to win,
Speaker 2: but probably Kansas City to lose. Four coaching hires yesterday,
Speaker 2: so they went back to back to back to back,
Speaker 2: and it was great to be able to watch all
Speaker 2: of them. Aaron Glenn with the Jets, Jerry Jones with
Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer, Pete Carroll with the Raiders, Liam Cohen with
Speaker 2: the Jaguars. But we're watching the cow I'm not really
Speaker 2: watching the Cowboys press conference with Jerry and his son
Speaker 2: Stephen and Brian Schottenheimer. But Pauli at one point says
Speaker 2: to no one in particular, after the show's over, it's
Speaker 2: on and I'm walking out into the basketball court area.
Speaker 2: He goes, is anybody is anybody watching this? And I thought,
Speaker 2: oh boy, so I do a U turn I come
Speaker 2: back in he goes. Brian Schottenheimer's spoken for about six minutes.
Speaker 2: Jerry has probably spoken twenty minutes and probably would have
Speaker 2: gone longer. And Brian Schottenheimer's just sitting there. This is
Speaker 2: his day, this is his moment, probably the only head
Speaker 2: coaching job he'll ever get, and all.
Speaker 3: He does is nod his head.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, have you been in a room
Speaker 2: where somebody is talking about you, but you're in the
Speaker 2: room with them, and then you're going, I'm right here
Speaker 2: their shoulder to shoulder, Brian Schottenheimer talks about, Hey, his father,
Speaker 2: Marty Schottenheimer passed away. He would have loved to have
Speaker 2: been here and had this moment. I become the head
Speaker 2: coach in the NFL, And I'm going, all right, that's
Speaker 2: a beautiful moment. And then Jerry starts talking about his
Speaker 2: father who taught him the game and he passed away,
Speaker 2: and then he gets emotional and starts crying. I'm going,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is fabulous. And then Stephen Jones,
Speaker 2: We've been walking around this morning doing air quotes with everything,
Speaker 2: because he put air quotes over the word drought. Would
Speaker 2: play it now if you're just listening on our radio affiliates.
Speaker 2: Imagine quotation marks around the word drought.
Speaker 4: Well, I think we you know, you always have to evaluate,
Speaker 4: you know, where it didn't go right last year, and
Speaker 4: obviously we're also evaluating where it didn't go right, you
Speaker 4: know in terms of you know, this drought that people
Speaker 4: say we're in in terms of a championship game or
Speaker 4: a super Bowl when you know, we just have to
Speaker 4: continue to make this roster better.
Speaker 2: Okay, once again, this so called drought that they're talking about,
Speaker 2: you're oh, for thirty I would have said, Stephen, what
Speaker 2: constitutes a drought in your eyes? Because you have to
Speaker 2: have some awareness here, Uh, drought. Yes, in the last
Speaker 2: thirty years, you haven't been to an NFC Titlekay, that's
Speaker 2: a drought. That is a drought. Somebody better call FEMA
Speaker 2: take care of this drought.
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, if you're Robert Kraft, you can put quotations
Speaker 5: around drought because it hasn't been that long.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: If you're the Cowboys, what are they thinking? At least
Speaker 5: we're not the Browns of the Lions.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, PAULI, And you know what Jerry Jones did at
Speaker 7: different points of this thing. He addressed the criticism on
Speaker 7: people like you, people like in the media and others,
Speaker 7: but he took it on he people say I would
Speaker 7: love to be the head coach. I would have loved
Speaker 7: to been the head coach. I wanted to be a coach,
Speaker 7: but business paid more. And he was not kidding. He
Speaker 7: said he would have preferred to have been a coach
Speaker 7: than a businessman, but it paid more. And then he
Speaker 7: talked about the criticism that he hires in his comfort zone,
Speaker 7: and he really went off for a little bit, saying,
Speaker 7: I do things outside of my comfort zone. I hire
Speaker 7: people outside of it. And then, like you said, he
Speaker 7: points to Schottenheimer.
Speaker 2: That's not out of your comfort zone. The guy is
Speaker 2: in the organization that I mean. It's controversial because nobody
Speaker 2: else was going to hire Brian Schottenheimer. You hired a
Speaker 2: guy who didn't even call plays for you, and now
Speaker 2: he's going to be your head coach. So if you
Speaker 2: want to say, wow, you took a shot here, did you?
Speaker 2: A shot would have been Dion, and Dion probably would
Speaker 2: have been a smarter choice from the standpoint. And once again,
Speaker 2: let's go back to when that story first hatched, and
Speaker 2: I said, this is wishful reporting. People were dying to
Speaker 2: have this storyline Dion every show all of the sudden,
Speaker 2: Hey what would Dion do? What changes would he make?
Speaker 2: You know, all of these scenarios, and I kept saying,
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it that he was offered the job.
Speaker 3: Now Edwarder, who I have known a long.
Speaker 2: Time and trust cowboy insider, he said, you know, this
Speaker 2: is a real thing, and if Dion was asked that
Speaker 2: he would take the job. Dion even answered a question
Speaker 2: about talking to Jerry and made it seem like there
Speaker 2: was an offer by saying, you know, I'm humbled and
Speaker 2: but you know I got work to do a Colorado.
Speaker 3: There was no offer. We wanted it to happen.
Speaker 2: So no matter who else was going to be hired,
Speaker 2: here is going to be a letdown because it wasn't Dion.
Speaker 2: And then you it just felt like this is the say,
Speaker 2: if if Jason Garrett had a younger brother or maybe
Speaker 2: a brother, then you hired Jason Garrett's brother just because
Speaker 2: you know who he is. He's going to let you
Speaker 2: do what you want to do, as opposed to if
Speaker 2: you brought in Mike Rabel or Ben Johnson or Dion.
Speaker 2: That press conference was emblematic of what the Cowboys organization
Speaker 2: is all about. I got this, I hired you. I'm
Speaker 2: doing the talking. Well, get used to it because that's
Speaker 2: what it's going to be after every game. And then
Speaker 2: Stephen Jones, who is you know, channeling his inner Matthew McConaughey. Here,
Speaker 2: play it again. There's a little McConaughey in there in Stephen.
Speaker 4: Jones, Well, I think we you know, you always have
Speaker 4: to evaluate, you know where it didn't go.
Speaker 6: Right last year?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 3: Yes, a little bit of Matthew McConaughey in there. Love
Speaker 3: to get that Ashton, Yes, Jenty.
Speaker 2: You guys call this a drought. I'd just say I'm
Speaker 2: a little parched, yes, Todd.
Speaker 9: Jerry Jones at one point commended Brian Scheinheimer for a
Speaker 9: number of times, I guess during meetings with coaches and players,
Speaker 9: biting his lip when he wanted to say something. But
Speaker 9: he difference, I guess was the word letting it things
Speaker 9: go with the people that I guess are in a
Speaker 9: higher position. And that's exactly the kind of coaching one.
Speaker 9: Someone that's gonna not try to make waves and let
Speaker 9: Jerry Jones decide what's gonna do and bite his lip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean get used to it that Jerry Jones
Speaker 2: announced that Jerry Jones is still the head coach of
Speaker 2: the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: That's that's what I took from it. And if you're a.
Speaker 2: Cowboy fan, you gotta be going God, make this end,
Speaker 2: make this end.
Speaker 3: And it's not.
Speaker 2: The rout is not going to end, probably anytime soon.
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn's all fired up. He wanted the Jets job,
Speaker 2: former Jet defensive back, and he's ready to go.
Speaker 3: Claire's that's here. Now, put your seat belts on and
Speaker 3: get ready for the ride. Put your seatbelts on and
Speaker 3: get ready for the ride. Listen.
Speaker 10: There are gonna be some challenges, but what challenges becomes
Speaker 10: opportunity gets opportunity.
Speaker 5: But here's what I do know.
Speaker 3: We're the freaking New York Jets, so we're built.
Speaker 2: For Imagine if the Lions were in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn wouldn't have been introduced yesterday. He'd be coaching
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. Ben Johnson wouldn't be in Chicago.
Speaker 2: He would be coaching in the Super Bowl. I don't
Speaker 2: know what the Saints are waiting for. That's one of
Speaker 2: those if you're a Saints fan, You're going are we
Speaker 2: getting somebody who is coaching in the Super Bowl? Are
Speaker 2: we getting Kellen Moore? Is Cliff Kingsbury since he's been eliminated?
Speaker 2: What about Mike McCarthy. The longer this goes, now you're
Speaker 2: the only coaching vacancy. You got three or four five
Speaker 2: guys maybe that you're interested in. That's where I always
Speaker 2: get nervous. If you know your guy, get your guy,
Speaker 2: and if you can't, then that might be what the
Speaker 2: Saints are going through right now. Did they miss on
Speaker 2: these other coaches? I'm assuming that they were interested in
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, maybe Mike Vrabel, but just trying to you're
Speaker 2: trying to understand what ownership is thinking, and with the
Speaker 2: Saints ownership, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pulling I.
Speaker 7: Think this works out perfectly for the Saints the Super
Speaker 7: Bowls in New Orleans. If Kellen Moore, the offensive coordinator
Speaker 7: for Eagles, pulls off the upset of the Chiefs, especially
Speaker 7: with his offense which looked great last week, he just
Speaker 7: stays in New Orleans. He goes right from the game
Speaker 7: on Sunday to being introduced on Monday morning. It could
Speaker 7: work out perfectly than Saints. Yeah, man, would that be
Speaker 7: a great hire within twenty four hours of Kellen Moore
Speaker 7: pulling off the Super Bowl wing? Okay, that's perfect scenario.
Speaker 2: But then the Cowboys don't bring Kellen Moore back to
Speaker 2: be their head coach, which I thought made more sense
Speaker 2: and by all accounts Kellen Moore.
Speaker 3: Really wanted the job.
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin his bags a candidate for a head coaching
Speaker 5: job anywhere or what the Saints rather?
Speaker 2: No, The only article I saw in that is he
Speaker 2: deserves to be a candidate.
Speaker 3: Now I don't know if he if he has.
Speaker 6: Been, but.
Speaker 2: At this point now age is going to factor in
Speaker 2: in this with Spags?
Speaker 3: Are you going to turn over?
Speaker 2: Well, you got Pete Carroll, so you know you can't
Speaker 2: sit there and go many he's too old. I don't
Speaker 2: know what too old is anymore. I've been told what
Speaker 2: too old is. But Pete Carroll's not too old for me.
Speaker 2: But Spags, I don't.
Speaker 3: I would stay with the Chiefs like you're everybody.
Speaker 2: You know, you have an ego and maybe you want
Speaker 2: to Hey, I'd like to get a chance coaching again.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Pauline, here's the player comp on this one. The musician,
Speaker 7: comps Steve Spagnolo, he's Keith Richards with the rolling stones.
Speaker 7: Stop me, all, you're not the most famous guy in
Speaker 7: the room. Man, what a long run, and you're going
Speaker 7: in the Hall of Fame together. So if Andy Reid
Speaker 7: goes in the Hall of Fame, like we've talked about
Speaker 7: Steve Spagnolo, a pure coordinator, he did coach, head coach
Speaker 7: a little bit, but a pure coordinator would go in
Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame. With Mahomes at the package deal,
Speaker 7: I don't think they'd put him in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 7: but what they could have, like, it doesn't matter rings, rings, rings,
Speaker 7: I don't think.
Speaker 2: Dick Lebau was a head coach and a former defensive
Speaker 2: back and he went in the Hall of Fame as well.
Speaker 2: But I don't think you've had a true coordinator go in.
Speaker 2: He's got Super Bowl rings, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's kind of interesting. By the way,
Speaker 3: Julian Edelman's going.
Speaker 2: To join us.
Speaker 3: Is he going to be.
Speaker 2: Is he going to be like Lin Swan who waited
Speaker 2: twenty over twenty years to get in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Didn't have great regular season numbers, but he had a
Speaker 2: couple of beautiful catches in the Super Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 2: Edelman is a better He's a better postseason receiver than
Speaker 2: Lynn Swan. And I know it's different. You know with
Speaker 2: the Steelers, they ran the ball that you know can
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty or whatever.
Speaker 3: But he never made a Pro Bowl. Now we knew
Speaker 3: greatness when you saw it.
Speaker 2: But he's in the Hall of Fame, is I mean,
Speaker 2: Julian Edelman's got to be looking at that, going, can
Speaker 2: I get this same kind of treatment here? Because he
Speaker 2: had one of the greatest catches in Super Bowl history.
Speaker 2: That catch against the Falcons top five greatest catches I've
Speaker 2: ever seen, and if you're looking at third all time
Speaker 2: postseason catches. He was a he was a money player.
Speaker 2: He really was, I mean good during the regular season,
Speaker 2: great during the postseason. But I wonder what he how
Speaker 2: he would answer that, like, why do you why aren't
Speaker 2: you being considered for the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, and.
Speaker 5: I think a new Hall of Fame criteria is iconic teams.
Speaker 5: So if you're a big part of iconic teams, that's
Speaker 5: what happened the nineties Bills. They didn't win any Super Bowls,
Speaker 5: but histories look kindly upon them, where there's five or
Speaker 5: six guys that are in now because of what they did.
Speaker 5: And I think the same thing is gonna happen with
Speaker 5: the Patriots, even the early Patriots teams. Ty Log got
Speaker 5: in and guys like Julia Edelman. I think he'll get
Speaker 5: in because he was a part of an iconic team
Speaker 5: and he had iconic moments.
Speaker 2: Rodney Harrison probably will get in, should get in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, all right, we'll take a break. We'll get
Speaker 2: to more phone calls. We're going to dissect what is
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler doing and he seems to be his own
Speaker 2: worst enemy here with what's going on in Miami. I
Speaker 2: have that for you coming up. We'll settle on new
Speaker 2: poll question for hour two. Glad you're part of the program.
Speaker 2: We're back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2: We'll get phone calls coming Up's whole question for hour
Speaker 2: two before we get to Julian Edelman.
Speaker 10: Uh for hour two Dan, Actually, it's a throwback from Paul.
Speaker 10: Whose wide receiver career would you want more? Calvin Johnson
Speaker 10: or Julian Edelman.
Speaker 2: So Calvin Johnson first balloder yep, but very little playoff
Speaker 2: success and then Julian Edelman then a Super Bowl MVP
Speaker 2: three times Super Bowl shame. Let me ask you that
Speaker 2: whose career would you rather have? Your career or Calvin
Speaker 2: Johnson's Julian I rather have my career? Okay, good, all right,
Speaker 2: that's it. That's all I wanted to talk to you about.
Speaker 6: Good to see you, Angel, really good, joy paper be
Speaker 6: sure to be doing Dan.
Speaker 3: Great, Great to talk to you. What do you say?
Speaker 2: What would you say to voters who haven't considered you
Speaker 2: for the Hall of Fame? What would be your campaign?
Speaker 6: Uh? I'm not a campaigner, so I wouldn't. That wasn't
Speaker 6: My goal in life is to make the Hall of Fame. Yeah.
Speaker 6: My goal in life was to go out and host
Speaker 6: Lombardi Trophy, and I got to do that three times
Speaker 6: and play my best football games in those matches. So
Speaker 6: you know, that's that's pretty much where I stand with
Speaker 6: all that stuff. I'm not gonna sit here in campaign
Speaker 6: try to get in the Hall of Fame. And I
Speaker 6: think that's lame. If I get in, I get in.
Speaker 6: If I don't, I got a beautiful eight year old daughter,
Speaker 6: and I got three trophies that I'll be happy with
Speaker 6: for the rest of my life. Four because I got
Speaker 6: the MVP of the last one.
Speaker 2: Well, I know it's not a goal, but if I was,
Speaker 2: if you said, hey, would you campaign for me? I
Speaker 2: have been, because I don't. You can't tell the story
Speaker 2: of the NFL, certainly these big games without you and
Speaker 2: postseason success.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I see as Lynn Swann kind of like where Lynn
Speaker 2: Swan wasn't great regular season, but he was big in
Speaker 2: big games, and it's the same with you, and you
Speaker 2: were winning championships. So I've championed your cause. But now
Speaker 2: I know you don't care about the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: So I'll call that off.
Speaker 3: I'll move on to somebody else.
Speaker 6: Move on to someone else.
Speaker 3: Why did big games bring out the best in you?
Speaker 6: Well, but people don't realize we weren't a team that
Speaker 6: was looking to pad guys' stats. You know, there's like
Speaker 6: four three years of my career. I'd jump out and
Speaker 6: I'd have a boatload of catches and a boatload of yards,
Speaker 6: and we change up the offense completely because we want
Speaker 6: to change up the tendency going forward into the season.
Speaker 6: So I think that when the playoffs came, we ran
Speaker 6: our best stuff and I usually was a part of
Speaker 6: those plays. So as we're watching the Chiefs right now,
Speaker 6: it's kind of that same kind of battle. When you're
Speaker 6: sustaining success for a long time, it's not about going
Speaker 6: out and try to having the best offense. It's about
Speaker 6: going out and try to improve your team each week
Speaker 6: and get them to play in their best football at
Speaker 6: the end of the year so you have a shot
Speaker 6: in the playoffs. So that's a lot of what we did,
Speaker 6: and you know, we had a lot of success doing it,
Speaker 6: and it's fun to watch another team be able to
Speaker 6: find that pocket that we were in.
Speaker 2: You hear a lot of the analysts, you know we are,
Speaker 2: you know, people who are host critics. They're talking about
Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid like hang on to the football. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: from a receiving perspective, that pass that Josh throws and
Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid, you know, drops it. What do you see
Speaker 2: on that play?
Speaker 6: Yeah? You know, first off, no, no game is decided
Speaker 6: by one play. So I don't think kincaid is that
Speaker 6: fault for the loss. There's a collection of plays that
Speaker 6: they probably want to have back saying that you got
Speaker 6: to make that catch. You know, to your point, people
Speaker 6: make those catches in the regular season and it looks
Speaker 6: great on their stats and you get your money. Scotty
Speaker 6: O'Brien knows used to say it. You make your money
Speaker 6: in the regular season, you make your name in the postseason.
Speaker 6: He makes that catch. You know, we could be saying
Speaker 6: something different right now. So that's that's how the game goes.
Speaker 6: I'm sure he feels like terrible. I mean the same
Speaker 6: could be said for Mark Andrews. But you know that
Speaker 6: those guys are hard working guys that have contributed a
Speaker 6: lot for those teams this year, and it sucks that
Speaker 6: the play didn't go their way. But that's football, you know, Dan.
Speaker 3: It's it's yeah, but look at Mark, you gotta.
Speaker 6: Make that catch. I would you know they hit him
Speaker 6: right in the chest play he misjudged it. I don't know,
Speaker 6: you know it was There's four guys there, but I
Speaker 6: would say probably eight out of ten times kin k
Speaker 6: makes that catch and the twenty percent where he doesn't
Speaker 6: just so happen to happen that night.
Speaker 2: What did you see on the Ravens play the two
Speaker 2: point conversion with Mark?
Speaker 6: I saw a guy that lost his confidence throughout the game,
Speaker 6: and which is very common with the receiver or that
Speaker 6: drops the ball a couple of times, has a fumble,
Speaker 6: he's starting to think about ball. He's, oh, I gotta
Speaker 6: I just gotta look at it. You know that was
Speaker 6: a confidence thing. Was the ball not perfect?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Uh? Could he have caught it? Yeah? But you know
Speaker 6: that that's I feel bad for both those players because
Speaker 6: of those situations. But you know, there's always got to
Speaker 6: be a winner and there's got to be a loser.
Speaker 6: The winners make those plays.
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Speaker 3: Can you compare Kelsey and Gronk.
Speaker 6: I would say they're different football players. Nothing could be
Speaker 6: taken away from what Travis Kelcey has done with his longevity,
Speaker 6: his knack defining the football, his his route running ability
Speaker 6: he's unbelievable. Uh and and his ability to stay healthy.
Speaker 6: People don't realize like, yeah, he's been banged up here
Speaker 6: or there, but Travis Kelcey's been a healthy football player
Speaker 6: his whole career. That's huge. Rob was like an old
Speaker 6: school tight end. We used to design run plays to
Speaker 6: the nine technique Van den Bosch when he was in
Speaker 6: his prime. With Gronk blocking Van der bosh That's different
Speaker 6: Rob was. You know, he's he's just he's a physical beast,
Speaker 6: where like when you would run next to him, you
Speaker 6: could hear the ground hounding, like in him giggling while
Speaker 6: he was playing. I think they're different football players, but
Speaker 6: both all time grades.
Speaker 3: Who plays quarterback the way you played quarterback in.
Speaker 6: College in college? Like in the league?
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there anybody who you could see yourself that
Speaker 2: was the kind of style that you had when you
Speaker 2: were in the MAC.
Speaker 6: In the man. That's a good question.
Speaker 2: DP.
Speaker 6: I would say I could make the throws like any
Speaker 6: of these guys, but running style, I was very slippery.
Speaker 6: I wasn't as fast as some of these, like the
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson's or the Jade and Daniels, but I didn't
Speaker 6: make people look very silly at very high competition, like
Speaker 6: against really big time schools. So I just couldn't throw
Speaker 6: a twenty yard out on a dime.
Speaker 3: What were you like the fourth string quarterback on the Patriots?
Speaker 6: There was so remember the year, So Brady was on
Speaker 6: a vacation for the first.
Speaker 12: Four day, and then Jimmy g got hurt in a game,
Speaker 12: and then Jacoby Bresquette Burssette got hurt.
Speaker 6: And so that week four game against the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 6: we had a whole package of me going in running
Speaker 6: raid option if something were to come to it, and
Speaker 6: we never used that. So that's how confident they were
Speaker 6: in me as a quarterback for the team. The kid
Speaker 6: had actually Jacoby had a broken thumb and they chose.
Speaker 2: To over under two and a half years for Belichick
Speaker 2: at North Carolina, I want to say under back in
Speaker 2: the NFL, I hope.
Speaker 6: I think I think it's destined, right, It's got to
Speaker 6: be Pete Carroll's getting jobs. Why can't Bill?
Speaker 3: Why isn't he?
Speaker 6: I don't know. There's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 6: in cahoutanists with those those guys that own the teams.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Did you and Brady have a sign or was there
Speaker 2: a code word like if he's coming to you changing
Speaker 2: a play?
Speaker 3: Was there something you can tell it now?
Speaker 6: Because yeah, it was called yellow sprinkle sugar cookies. He
Speaker 6: would say that to me, and I knew that. We
Speaker 6: just had to be dialed and then we wouldn't talk.
Speaker 3: Are you making that out? Are you making that up?
Speaker 6: No? It's real. Yellow sprinkle sugar cookies was the I'm
Speaker 6: telling you. It was like a Rambo call. We used
Speaker 6: to have a situation in Rambo or if there was
Speaker 6: knowing over you, you scream Rambo, Tom will get the
Speaker 6: ball throw to you. We also had yellow sugar sprinkled cookies,
Speaker 6: which then he would tell a kinesis mee what he
Speaker 6: wanted me to do? No, none of that. I mean,
Speaker 6: when you have so many reps with a football player
Speaker 6: that we had, and it wasn't just through our time
Speaker 6: with the Patriots, it was our time in the offseason.
Speaker 6: You start to think like each other. I mean, we
Speaker 6: see this with Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey where you
Speaker 6: know they know, you know, they're each other's eyes on
Speaker 6: the field. So if Travis is doing something, Patrick is
Speaker 6: probably trusting what Travis is doing and without seeing everything.
Speaker 6: Just like you know, if Patrick throws Travis somewhere, he's
Speaker 6: trusting that Patrick's not gonna throw him anywhere. I think
Speaker 6: a lot of it has to do with that and
Speaker 6: just knowing each other. There wasn't any There was little
Speaker 6: like swing things or little signals here and there that
Speaker 6: we could hit, or it could be an eye thing
Speaker 6: where you know, we give an eye if we talked
Speaker 6: about it sometime that week where if this guy was
Speaker 6: in this leverage, hey, let's let's do something else. There
Speaker 6: was a whole bunch of nonverbal communication going on, But
Speaker 6: my favorite was yellow.
Speaker 2: What does Mahomes have to do to surpass Tom Brady?
Speaker 2: In your opinion, he just got to do it for
Speaker 2: a long time. I mean, he's on pace. This is remarkable.
Speaker 6: If he goes out and does three in a row
Speaker 6: in a salary cap era, you can't say much, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm I'm as big as a Tom Brady guy as
Speaker 6: there is. And what the only difference is is the longevity.
Speaker 6: Tom had like three careers. He just so happened to
Speaker 6: only get two runs at those Super Bowl runs. Patrick's
Speaker 6: been doing that his whole thing, his whole career. But
Speaker 6: it'll be interesting for me to see the next chapter
Speaker 6: of Patrick Mahomes when some sort of adversity comes along,
Speaker 6: some player, you know, Travis retire, He's gonna be playing
Speaker 6: way longer after Travis, Chris Jones when he departures, you know,
Speaker 6: he's gonna be there by himself. Will he be able
Speaker 6: to retool and find guys to help him go out
Speaker 6: and win, which that's what Tom had to do and
Speaker 6: it took him ten years to do that to get
Speaker 6: to the next one. So you know, it's pretty crazy
Speaker 6: that if you really think about it, they've had a
Speaker 6: little bit of adversity with guys that may not be
Speaker 6: cornerstone players. But like the stuff that we went through
Speaker 6: to see Tom be able to compartmentalize and we had murders,
Speaker 6: we had back surgeries, we had gates, and he was
Speaker 6: still able to go out and win football games. So
Speaker 6: that's like the next step for me to see with
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes, this next part of his career when you
Speaker 6: know he doesn't have the whole band together.
Speaker 3: Give me a Brady story. I haven't heard.
Speaker 6: A Brady story.
Speaker 3: You haven't heard on or off the field.
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't really have. I'm pretty much given
Speaker 6: all my great Brady stories. But if if you actually
Speaker 6: I do have a really good one. But it's gonna
Speaker 6: be featured on Games with Names next week and then
Speaker 6: Dudes on Dudes my podcast, so you have to listen there.
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, you.
Speaker 6: Hit him? Have you ever seen Angel in the outfield?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: You know when they start doing this, well you know
Speaker 6: where that came from, right, that came from angel Soft.
Speaker 6: It's like it's like having what is it called?
Speaker 2: Uh, look at you? Look at you being Peyton Manning here?
Speaker 2: Well no, I'm telling you no.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then all of a sudden they make them play.
Speaker 6: You know, it's the same thing that like, all of
Speaker 6: a sudden, the angel Soft thing's gonna happen, and Angel
Speaker 6: is gonna come out of nowhere again to give you
Speaker 6: a thirty seconds so you can go do your business.
Speaker 2: Say I do think you were concussed? On the cam
Speaker 2: Chancellor hit again in the Super Bowl. You can you
Speaker 2: can finally admit it that you were kindly?
Speaker 6: Was it though, Dan?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I really wasn't.
Speaker 6: I'm a hip injury. Yeah it was. Did I get banged?
Speaker 6: But I knew that hit was coming. We were going
Speaker 6: lay across the middle twenty eight yards down the field.
Speaker 6: I mean it's cover three. There's a safety roman in
Speaker 6: there somewhere. Dan, it's like a loss of raptor over there.
Speaker 3: You can't see.
Speaker 2: I can still hear that. I'm on the sidelines. I
Speaker 2: can still hear that hit.
Speaker 6: If I was concussed, I wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 6: try to get up and go. We all know the
Speaker 6: fencing thing. We're also educated on concussions. Now, I got
Speaker 6: my eight year old daughter telling me she's got concussions
Speaker 6: because we talk about them so much. I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 6: I'm not joking. These little kids. You know that they
Speaker 6: get a butterfly that hits their head and they got concussions. Now,
Speaker 6: it's gnarly.
Speaker 3: She's trying to draw a flag, trying to.
Speaker 6: Draw lively Patty Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Wow, you can't be doing that, oh, Angel Soft, that's
Speaker 2: that's not Julian Edelman. That's what he's promoting angel Soft
Speaker 2: toilet paper, the Big Game commercial that designed to be missed.
Speaker 3: Hey, great, designed to be missed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to give you guys enough time to go to Yes,
Speaker 2: the facility.
Speaker 6: That's pretty good, though, isn't that. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, good good, almost as good as your shot, because
Speaker 6: I still remember going into your studio probably what fifteen
Speaker 6: ten years ago and you were wet from there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you couldn't stop me. You can only hope
Speaker 2: to contain me.
Speaker 6: Well, I technically had a torn ac all the time,
Speaker 6: so I wasn't stopping any Oh.
Speaker 3: So you're saying you could have stopped me easily, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, easily. You're so short. I would have been
Speaker 3: doing that the short thing.
Speaker 6: We would wait, Well, you can't. You can't give the
Speaker 6: forum any no, no, but this is street basket.
Speaker 3: Can't put your hands on me.
Speaker 6: You're gonna be banged up.
Speaker 2: It's hands on you, like, oh my god. All right,
Speaker 2: So I'm stopping the Hall of Fame campaign. You don't
Speaker 2: need that, you don't care about the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: and uh, I gotta wait for your great Brady story
Speaker 2: on your podcast. Okay, I don't know what we accomplished
Speaker 2: here today, but it's great seeing you.
Speaker 6: It's always a pleasure to get to talk to you.
Speaker 2: That's a Julian Edelman. Don't even consider him for the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame because he doesn't want it. And he
Speaker 2: was concussed against cam Chancellor. God if he wasn't it.
Speaker 2: To this day, that sound is still with me. It resonates.
Speaker 2: So you had that and you catch against the Falcons
Speaker 2: and he I think he's a Hall of famer, Yes, Todd,
Speaker 2: just to be fair to.
Speaker 9: Julian, I don't think he said he's not. I'm interested, doesn't.
Speaker 6: Want to be.
Speaker 3: Just having a little fun.
Speaker 9: But you know how the media is I gonna like
Speaker 9: a run with that.
Speaker 1: It's Jolian Edelman demands you don't.
Speaker 6: Vote for him and all of it.
Speaker 3: He's backing. He will not show up at can No.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, well he's he just popped back up.
Speaker 3: We're just joking.
Speaker 7: Yes, if you put into google Chancellor hit it finishes
Speaker 7: on Edelman. I'm watching it again. It's third and fourteen.
Speaker 7: The Patriots are down ten. They need it. He hits Edelman,
Speaker 7: and Edelman does this like matrix thing with his body
Speaker 7: like a jellyfish and keeps going and he's stumbling and stumbling,
Speaker 7: and he has trouble getting up after.
Speaker 3: The play, Yes, because he's concussed.
Speaker 7: And they're trying to get him off the field and
Speaker 7: he's like, no, dice, everyone should watch this again.
Speaker 10: Oh God, I'm watching it right now. He looks confused
Speaker 10: when he gets back.
Speaker 3: Maybe not concussed, but confused.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break, we'll get to your
Speaker 2: phone calls coming up seat, and we'll join us coming
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Speaker 2: Christian and Wisconsin. Hi Christian, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 2: Hey Bud, Hey Bud.
Speaker 13: A longtime uncle, first time dad. Six two soft one
Speaker 13: ninety soft. Daan just wanted to call introduce the newest
Speaker 13: fan of the show at twenty inches and six pounds
Speaker 13: fifteen ounces, Please say hello to our son, James Andrew.
Speaker 3: Hi James, how are you? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Try not to use my deep voice. I tend to
Speaker 2: scare kids when I speak to them.
Speaker 3: Oh congratulations, Yeah, thank you, Dan.
Speaker 13: I've heard your parenting advice on daughters and uh, I
Speaker 13: guess just wanted to call in and get your advice
Speaker 13: on raising his son.
Speaker 2: Well, don't do what I did because I wanted him
Speaker 2: to be just like me instead of me understanding how
Speaker 2: he was his own person. And I kept thinking, then
Speaker 2: he loves sports the way I do or you know,
Speaker 2: uh we joked that, you know, maybe athleticism skipped a
Speaker 2: generation here. But I eventually had to come around to
Speaker 2: understanding him. And my wife said, he's not you. It's
Speaker 2: one of those uh you know, how many words is
Speaker 2: that the boy? It hit me right between the eyes.
Speaker 2: He's not you. And so was incumbent upon me to
Speaker 2: understand him. And we have a great relationship. But I
Speaker 2: kept thinking, he's going to be like me, So let
Speaker 2: your son be your son. He doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: you let him be himself. But congratulations, Christian. I have
Speaker 2: a lot of advice on girls because I got three
Speaker 2: of them and you're up there. One time at the
Speaker 2: dinner table, I got one crying, one laughing, and one
Speaker 2: it's not sure if she's going to cry or laugh.
Speaker 2: And I looked at my wife and I said, what
Speaker 2: the bleep has gone on? And she goes, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what this is all about. That's who they are.
Speaker 9: Yes, Ton, And you said I think once that if
Speaker 9: you're willing to listen, they'll eventually tell you everything.
Speaker 2: The girls will tell you everything. But you have open
Speaker 2: lines of communication, very very important. Brian and Charlotte. Hi, Brian,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 8: Hey Dan? How are you doing good? I got some
Speaker 8: more cherry pick stats for you if you're open to it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 8: So, the twenty twenty two twenty twenty three Kansas City
Speaker 8: Chiefs are the first and only NFL team in history
Speaker 8: to a a conference title and won a Super Bowl
Speaker 8: initiated from game any penalties at the end of the game.
Speaker 8: And you may ask, how can this be? That could
Speaker 8: be because usually during the playoffs the referees swallow their whipples. Well,
Speaker 8: whistles at the end of the game and just that,
Speaker 8: for whatever reason, hasn't occurred for the Ganden City Chiefs.
Speaker 8: Is this cherry picking stat or is it a stat
Speaker 8: that speaks to something?
Speaker 2: Oh god, I you know, probably both. It's just I
Speaker 2: don't get caught up in it. There's no conspiracy theory
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Great teams get calls, they they make they
Speaker 2: make situations where they get calls. They're a well coached team.
Speaker 2: They do the right thing. And I know that you
Speaker 2: don't want to hear that, or most people don't want
Speaker 2: to hear that you're anti chief. I'm watching a dynasty.
Speaker 2: I'm watching the guy who could turn out to be
Speaker 2: the greatest quarterback of all time. And you know, unless
Speaker 2: you're a Philly fan, you should at least savor a
Speaker 2: little bit of this or enjoy a little bit of this.
Speaker 3: I'm sure.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Steelers got calls back in the seventies
Speaker 2: there's no social media. Then, I'm sure the Niners got calls,
Speaker 2: the Cowboys got calls. It's social media, and I'm not
Speaker 2: on social media. I don't need to be guided by
Speaker 2: anybody on social media. I'm just watching and I enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Does he get calls? He makes those calls. Brady got him,
Speaker 2: Montana probably got I mean, yes, it happens. Jordan got him,
Speaker 2: Lebron got him, Magic got him, Bird got him. Yes,
Speaker 2: but they also made those situations. I enjoy it.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: Kansas City wins great, If Philadelphia wins great, I couldn't
Speaker 2: care less. All I ever want is a great game,
Speaker 2: something that lives up to two weeks of hype. But
Speaker 2: maybe it comes down to a call that maybe Kansas
Speaker 2: City doesn't get that call in the Super Bowl, people
Speaker 2: would love that. Irony uh Mark in Texas? Hi, Mark,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 13: Hey Dan?
Speaker 3: They Mark?
Speaker 14: Start watching in ninety one in Argentina and listen to
Speaker 14: you in two thousand and two. Thanks for taking my
Speaker 14: call first time. Al Davis was the mentor to Jerry Jones,
Speaker 14: and sadly it looks like in a lot of ways, Jones'
Speaker 14: career is ending like al Davis. I believe the last
Speaker 14: eight or nine years the Raiders missed the playoff, the
Speaker 14: last eight or nine years of Davis's life, So it's
Speaker 14: a sad ending for both.
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, thank you, Mark, But al Davis wasn't
Speaker 2: afraid to hire personalities, as he said, coach. So therein
Speaker 2: lies a little bit of the difference here. Did it
Speaker 2: slip away from mount the end, yes, said do. But
Speaker 2: I don't think Al thought that he was the coach.
Speaker 2: Now he was the general manager. But I think you know,
Speaker 2: he turned it over, you know, when you're bringing in
Speaker 2: John Madden. So I don't think he was bringing in
Speaker 2: puppets or somebody who was malleable. Hey you got that title,
Speaker 2: but I'm running everything you know here. I think Al
Speaker 2: Davis probably started out that way, but he was brilliant
Speaker 2: final hour on the way, we'll check in with Seaton.
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Speaker 2: What's Jimmy Butler doing. We'll try to explain that final
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