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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Defending the Kingdom, a brand

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Speaker 1: new podcast. Mitch holds with you the voice of the

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Speaker 1: Football League veterans. This is gonna be fun, brother, but

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Speaker 1: it's an exciting time and great to get this kicked off. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: definitely being part of this podcast Defending the Kingdom, showing

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Speaker 1: different ways, different viewpoints, different points of emphasis, from on

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Speaker 1: the field, off the field, from in my mind, in

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Speaker 1: the mind of a former player, in the man of

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Speaker 1: Chiefs inside and outside, mister Mitch Holtis, We're gonna bring it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna bring it every opportunity to show so many

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Speaker 1: different angles of what's going on with the Kingdom barber Shop.

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Speaker 1: This is a very exciting time. Obviously, I've honestly, in

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Speaker 1: thing that's overlooked here, I think is the influence of

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about what is easy to drive by in

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Speaker 1: all of this excitement, and that is the influence that

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Speaker 1: And that's something that I think a lot of fans,

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Speaker 1: is something that coach Andy Reid has done as at

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Speaker 1: He respects your time, he respects your effort. He understands

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Speaker 1: there is faith, family, and football and all those things

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Speaker 1: Those type of things are are are kind of hard

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Speaker 1: good stuff here. Andy Reid sixty five wins is a

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the season, you know those dates,

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Speaker 1: those sixteen dates are set. You can prepare for them

432
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Speaker 1: like no other. Uh. But it's the unknowns, the challenges

433
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Speaker 1: to come up with all the off the field distractions

434
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: and how you react to those things is what's going

435
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Speaker 1: to set your apart from the good teams, great teams

436
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 1: in the championship teams. Yeah, one of Andy's four pillars

437
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: is eliminate distractions. And he talks about and that's one

438
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: of the four really basis fundamental points that he's got.

439
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: But you balancing family, you mentioned too, I mean in

440
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 1: media and outside interests. There's so much interest in the NFL.

441
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: There's podcasts like this, there's all these sites. There's national sites,

442
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: local sites. But you said something that's interesting. You said,

443
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: many times those outside sources are rewarded to research and

444
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: report the distractions. I mean, that's sometimes they feel like

445
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: that's their job. But if you're inside the fort, how

446
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: is it different to somehow mitigate those or maybe the

447
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: wrong word, to eliminate him, or at least to not

448
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: let those distractions affect the field. Well, you gotta understand,

449
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, when when someone attacks your teammate, and somebody

450
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: attacks a coach or any any staff at this part

451
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: an organization, in a way, they're taking a shot at

452
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Speaker 1: sure ability to go out and perform. Everybody has a

453
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Speaker 1: role to play, and as long as everybody's afforded the

454
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Speaker 1: benefit of playing that role to their up to their ability,

455
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: then we all can progress. And so when things happen

456
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: in the media, decide to uh, chop something apart or

457
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Speaker 1: take a segment of something, shine a by light on

458
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Speaker 1: one of your teammates, um, and then put the mic

459
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Speaker 1: in front of the players. How do you how do

460
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: you reply to one of your players getting uh, you know,

461
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: caught doing this or out past this point, or being

462
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Speaker 1: with this certain person. Those things are all just divisors.

463
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: They want to they want to divide and conquer. And

464
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: the way they do that to a team is taking

465
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Speaker 1: news segments, taking things from your personal life and trying

466
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Speaker 1: to put those in front of you to speak negatively

467
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Speaker 1: against a teammate. But but here if you if you

468
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Speaker 1: understand it, Uh, the goal is the goal. The main

469
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: thing is the main thing. You know. The mindset is

470
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Speaker 1: for y'all to build a unit. A uh nothing comes

471
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: between um that that unit and that team. It's very

472
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Speaker 1: tough to and I think that's something like we talked

473
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: something The Patriots have done better than anybody else. Um,

474
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: you just you don't hear as much negativity in the

475
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: media uh cycle when it comes to the patriot way,

476
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: it's there is the way of going about it. Um

477
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Speaker 1: here in the Kingdom. When we talk about TV stations

478
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Speaker 1: and radio stations, I've been on radio before and I

479
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: felt like I've carried my my chief shield and sword

480
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: and helmet and going there and fight, uh fight to

481
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: speak positively about the team, no matter what the the

482
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Speaker 1: case of scenario, no matter what the outcome of the game. UM.

483
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: Finding finding people taking taking shots and attacking uh taking

484
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Speaker 1: personal shots and attacking coaches and staff members. UM like

485
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: anybody in the organization is is trying to not win

486
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: was something that I took as being an insult and

487
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: it usually brought out a very defensive personality of defensive response.

488
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: So I just think that you lock arms. You understand

489
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: that we all are part of this. It's such a

490
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: unique organization that has wrapped his arms around the entire

491
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: fan base. And when we talk about the Kingdom, it's

492
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: not just the players on the fields, not just the coaches.

493
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: It's the staff, it's the fans, it's the family of

494
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: the players, it's anybody who can hear our voices right now.

495
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: If you're expecting the Chiefs to win, if you're hoping

496
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: for success for this season, then you are part of

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Speaker 1: the kingdom. Yeah. I've said this many many times that teams, football,

498
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: teams and specific can take months, if not years, to build,

499
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Speaker 1: and it can take one sentence to fracture. It's fascinating,

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Speaker 1: all right, fourth quarter of our initial podcast here defending

501
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: the Kingdom of Choulders and Sean Barber and then has

502
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Speaker 1: to deal with the internal competition. Now we're talking inside

503
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: the fort. You and I have been watching through the

504
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: OTAs and rookie minicamps, getting ready now for the mandatory minicamp. Man,

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00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: I am seeing immense competition within the position groups, and

506
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: how do you handle that as a player. You're trying

507
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: to beat me out. I'm trying to beat you out.

508
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: That means I'm taking groceries off your table. But you

509
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: and I we might both beat the beat the other

510
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: cat out, which means now you're my teammate. I mean

511
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: there's some dynamics here with this team inside that locker

512
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: room that are strong, but it is a very competitive

513
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: environment inside of who's gonna make this team? Well? I

514
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: tell you one thing you do. You can't start counting

515
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: chairs at the table. If you're counting, it's fifty three chairs.

516
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: And as a linebacker, we are accountable. We account for

517
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: six of those chairs. And you know these three guys

518
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: are automatically starting, so it's three more positions. And right now,

519
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm just no. If you go in with that mindset,

520
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: you're defeated during any camp. During OTAs, it's all about

521
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: developing the best version of yourself possible. And not only

522
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: developing the best version of yourself possible, but knowing that

523
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: you need other guys in that locker room to step

524
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: their game up. Other guys in your same position room.

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00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: Give me your best every day so I can show

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Speaker 1: on film how I compete against the best. I need

527
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: a receiver and to run his best routes so I

528
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: can show I can cover those routes as a dB.

529
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: I need the running backs to give me his best

530
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: move to show I can still stay with him as

531
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: a cover linebacker. I need to fullback to come full

532
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: speed in that league so I can show them that

533
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: I can blow up a fullback and still be in

534
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: position to take my run gap. Because if guys don't

535
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: show their best. Then then it leaves doubt in the

536
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Speaker 1: coach's mind, It leaves doubt in the scouts mind what

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00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 1: will happen when when when it does get turned up.

538
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Speaker 1: But if you can create that type of competition, that

539
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: type of intensity on the field, in your OTA's and

540
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: your practice in your training camp, it's going to be

541
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: a hard decision deciding who's the last fifty three standing.

542
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: But the competition you've created will make sure that that

543
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: fifty three can stay in the test of time. And

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Speaker 1: the one thing we talked about is how do you

545
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: compete against the guy knowing that if you're making him better,

546
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: it also might make your chance of making a team

547
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: even a slimmer. Well, when you go out there and

548
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: play on preseason and OTAs, you're not just playing for

549
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: the fifty three seats in this team. All thirty two

550
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: teams watch all that film, All those scouts are watching

551
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: all that film, and when they see you blow up

552
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: a guy, or make a great play or do anything,

553
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: if you do not make our team. Another great aspect

554
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: about coach Andy Reid is he'll he'll vouch for you.

555
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: He'll he'll pick up the phone and call one of

556
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: his you know, that that handy Reid tree is is long.

557
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: He has a lot of roots, it has a lot

558
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: of head coaches. With other teams, he'll if you're a

559
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: deserving player, he will vouch for you and make sure

560
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: that you at least get a call from somebody else

561
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: and possibly make another team. And that's very rare. That's

562
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: rare that he feels so confident in the fifty three

563
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: he's keeping. He's willing to let some guys who are

564
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Speaker 1: deserving a spot actually make another team. To your point,

565
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Speaker 1: what I've noticed here two and twenty six years in

566
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: the league, being cut now doesn't mean you're going to

567
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: be not called in two weeks injuries at a position.

568
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean Bucker got cut by the Carolina gets called

569
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: back and first of October. He has been the kicker

570
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: here since October of seventeen or whatever. And I think

571
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Speaker 1: you are a living example of this with Andy Reid,

572
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Speaker 1: like he's got to be watching if you're not are

573
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Speaker 1: competing for a spot. He watches the CI handle it.

574
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Speaker 1: If I'm trying to, like, you know, cut you down

575
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: or get you out of my way, it may be

576
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: a negative. He asked you back. Four years later, he

577
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: had to be studying you knowing, hey, he's going to

578
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: help my locker room. In the fact that you left

579
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: to to the Chiefs but then came back. What it's like.

580
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: It's the old no doesn't mean no right now, all right?

581
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: It just means no right now, doesn't mean no forever.

582
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: What about that and learning how to be a player

583
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: in a pro man? I just thought, I just thought

584
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: that part of being an NFL player was that your

585
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: position group. You really wanted to make sure that your

586
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: position group rised above whatever the expectations was. And what

587
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: I called it is outplaying my contract. No matter what

588
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: I signed on that dotted line at the end of

589
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: the year, I wanted to make the organization feel like

590
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: they didn't pay me enough. I didn't care if I

591
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: was the highest paid linebacker or a minimum wage guy.

592
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that every dollar that I

593
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,239
Speaker 1: signed up to get I earned. And some of that

594
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: was not even my play on the field. Was how

595
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: I took the young guys under my wing, how I

596
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: made sure that we watched them together. How I made

597
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: sure that some guys who used to be guys to

598
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: go to the club, I would convince them how better

599
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: to use their time on the weekends, being a good

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00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: role model, ex amp of how how to handle your family,

601
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: how to handle problems and issues with your wife and kid.

602
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: All of those aspects are part of the mentorship piece

603
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: that as a veteran linebacker, you're you're entrusted to handle

604
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: that and one of the most beautiful things. UM. You

605
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: asked me to come with you to practice the other day,

606
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: and I had a chance to listen to Sammy Watkins

607
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: talk and he talked about his growth as a player

608
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: and now he's grown because he feels more vocal, but

609
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: he also talked about the mentorship portion of it and

610
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: how he felt like now it's time for him to

611
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: really take that next step is to be a mentor

612
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: to the young wide receivers. That is what having a

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00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: Andy Reid in your organization, um. He embowls, he emblazons.

614
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: He gives a guy like Sammy Watkins the comfort to

615
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: step out on that uncomfortable UM role as being the

616
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: mentor in that in that in that locker room. That

617
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: is why you lasted ten years in the league, my friend.

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00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: That's why we're sitting here together, UM, and why Andy

619
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: gave you another shot. That's gonna be fun, we're gonna

620
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna be defending the kingdom, and so people just

621
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: kind of be on the lookout for our next one.

622
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: The next one is like, where do the Chiefs go

623
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: from here? Specifically, Patrick Mahomes, thanks for listening to the

624
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: Chief's official podcast network to touch down it down and

625
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: the celebration begins to their head