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Speaker 1: Schmoke with you. Today's guest former New England Patriot and

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Rodney Harrison. Now he's an analyst for

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Speaker 1: And now let's welcome to Rodney Harrison. You of course

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Speaker 1: know him from Football Night in America on NBC. He'll

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Speaker 1: have pregame coverage for Giants and Browns on Sunday Night Football. Rodney,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for being with us, man. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing well. Good to be here,

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Speaker 1: No no problem, Rodney. So let's start here. As you

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Speaker 1: head into this game and you start doing your preparation,

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Speaker 1: give me your you know, twenty thousand foot look down

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Speaker 1: on the New York Football Giants and where they are

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Speaker 1: is they're still in the mix here in the NFC East. Well,

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Speaker 1: I like what Joe Judges doing. Um, obviously I'm on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. UM. I think they

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Speaker 1: fly around. I think they play extremely hard. I think

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Speaker 1: they have some some players that are, you know, really players,

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Speaker 1: unselfish guys like Logan Ryan. I mean for a guy

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Speaker 1: like that to move from his cornerback position to go

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Speaker 1: Love Jabrill Peppers and you know him showing his versatility

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Speaker 1: and and really showing and just the leadership. UM. You

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Speaker 1: know those guys up front. Leonard Williams is having an

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Speaker 1: outstanding year. Blake Martinez is all over the field. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you watch him, you start looking at some of

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Speaker 1: the better linebackers in the game, Fred Warner to Mario Davis,

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Speaker 1: and he fits in right there. Just an ultimate playmaker

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. Daniel Jones didn't

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Speaker 1: seem like he was healthy last week. Seemed like he

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Speaker 1: was really guarding his leg And if they can't get

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Speaker 1: him healthy, that's a big part of the game that um,

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Speaker 1: different quarterback. Yeah, absolutely, Rodney. Let's start the defense first. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know you played on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: this defense kind of looks like Patriots South a little

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Speaker 1: bit the way they're playing. Do you see just the

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Speaker 1: way they organize things and the way they disguise and

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Speaker 1: the stuff you did when you played for Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: playing good team defense and kind of a bend but

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Speaker 1: don't break at time. Saw some you know, some holes

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Speaker 1: last week as far as the run game. But when

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Speaker 1: those guys get gone, man, they play really unselfish team defense.

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Speaker 1: They fly around, um, they don't give up a lot

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Speaker 1: Even last week when they lost, they were fighting and

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Speaker 1: You mentioned and you mentioned the safeties off the bat

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Speaker 1: about not giving up that big play. Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's what happened. And you have to think too, like

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Speaker 1: like just the communication. Everybody's being on the same page.

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Speaker 1: And every week that we watch football, we see the

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Speaker 1: you're disguising, if it just forces that quarterback one extra

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Speaker 1: But they do. I still do believe that they have

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Speaker 1: I just like the fundamental defense um them flying around, tackling,

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Speaker 1: And that's what I like about the Giants. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: You know, Rodney Heady into this year, I was worried

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Speaker 1: planning with energy, plan with effort, all the different stunts

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Speaker 1: Just guys liking to play with one another. No unselfish guys.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I think Joe Judge is brought. He's

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Speaker 1: I think he's building a great culture. Um, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just really surprised that halfter everything the Giants have

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Speaker 1: distractions coming out of New York, and that's a good thing. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Giants and Browns. Let's go to the offensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. And you mentioned distractions. Unfortunately, on Thursday morning, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett had to get put on the the COVID

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Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens will now that happened on Thursday morning, So

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Speaker 1: the game plan was already developed, it's already in So

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Speaker 1: what kind of impact now does this have when Jason

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Speaker 1: headset talking to the quarterback on Sunday night. Well, once again,

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Speaker 1: it's just about being transparent and and um, you know

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Speaker 1: by the way, he's gonna be quarterback? I do not

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Speaker 1: not yet, Rode. I was I was giving my next

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Speaker 1: thing I do believe they need to do is, um

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Speaker 1: it's just to me, I don't understand why they don't

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Speaker 1: can really help their offense. Yeah, and I think Ingram

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Speaker 1: But them not utilizing him is absolutely crazy. That the

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Speaker 1: just don't know why they're not just utilizing them the

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Speaker 1: way he should. All right, and obviously we still don't

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Speaker 1: know who's going to be the quarterback. Daniel Jones came

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Speaker 1: Thank you. That's Rodney Harrison. I had to ask about

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Speaker 1: I'm John Small. Thank you so much for being with us.

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