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Speaker 1: Here we go, it's our two. It's a Tuesday. We

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Speaker 1: are live. Baseball playoffs start tonight, Big Big Cubs, San

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Speaker 1: Diego Padres lead it off this afternoon. That's the big

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Speaker 1: headline game, and then tonight Dodgers, Reds, Yankees, Red Sox,

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Speaker 1: Jmack Hurt, Hierarchy. I'm very excited for it. I do

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Speaker 1: think it's hard to fool people. There are some exceptions.

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Speaker 1: Right now Minnesota and the Chargers offensive lines are a mess.

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Speaker 1: So I think those teams are better than what you

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Speaker 1: saw this weekend. I think Baltimore, Kansas City's and Lamar's

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Speaker 1: head but I think the defense is actually better than

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Speaker 1: what you're seeing. So we have three teams that have

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Speaker 1: major injury cluster injury problems Baltimore, Vikings, Chargers, but I

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Speaker 1: do and they're better than what you've seen in those units.

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Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, I kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: I know what I know and I see what I

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Speaker 3: Truths, Colin.

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Speaker 4: I just counted during the break there's five teams with

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Speaker 4: a winning record in the AFC and seven in the NFC,

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Speaker 4: So essentially there's only twelve really good teams in the league.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be easiest heard hierarchy you've ever done.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, here we go on a Tuesday. Let's roll it.

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy. Now go the top ten NFL teams according

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Speaker 2: to College Number ten.

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Speaker 1: The Colts. I love their offensive line and their skill offensively.

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Speaker 1: They had the game and lost it against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: They have the most efficient offense in the league, and

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Speaker 1: they don't make mistakes. You can't get to Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Do I think he's great? Nobody's playing like a b

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Speaker 1: quarterback with you know, decent arm moves. Well again, Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 1: This offensive line, I mean a Denver Broncos pass rush

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Speaker 1: offensive line this good and Jonathan Taylor, you're gonna make

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks. Sit and watch for long stretches. I have

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Speaker 1: the Colts at ten, number nine Denver Sean Payton has

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Speaker 1: a career five hundred record in September. Even with Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees and bow Knicks it's ugly early. This roster is

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Speaker 1: really good. They're gonna lead the NFL in sacks again.

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Speaker 1: Two good running backs, excellent O line, hard to get

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Speaker 1: They take big swing. They get a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: Harvey and MIM's and Franklin and Courtland Sutton. This is

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Speaker 1: league in sacks. Denver nine, number eight Detroit takeout Game

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Speaker 1: one against Green Bay with the new coordinators. Jared Goff's

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Speaker 1: completing seventy four percent of his throws this year. Road

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Speaker 1: he's getting it with a great run game. Defensively, I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're great, but they get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Only Denver gets to the quarterback more I have the Lions.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to figure out what Tampa is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: anybody away. And you know Baker can be reckless. He

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Speaker 1: They know how to win games. They don't play well.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay does it yet. Number four Kansas City I

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Speaker 1: kept saying all week. Xavier Worthy matters. He not only

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams, I'm not sure their weakness. Everything's good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, their offensive line isn'tdominant, but Matt Stafford highest

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Speaker 1: the best wide receiver in the league. I could reading

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Speaker 1: nine statsy leagues top ten in scoring defense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's what's amazing is how good their defense is. And

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Speaker 1: they don't pay any of them. They've hit on so

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Speaker 1: two years ago. It was great and they weren't paying anybody.

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Speaker 1: But Chris Jones so coach quarterback defense a lot of wisdom.

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Speaker 1: I have him at three number two Bills. The defense

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Speaker 1: they don't give the ball away. James Cook has taken

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have to carry it. Highest rushing grade in

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Speaker 1: the league is James Cook one giveaway in nine games

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Speaker 1: including the playoffs. They actually lead the NFL right now

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Speaker 1: longer is Buffalo at two. Number one, listen, I mean

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Speaker 1: I do think they have too many really bad halfs.

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Speaker 1: But the roster is stacked, and every time I doubt

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Speaker 1: Jalen hurts, he turns it on. So I think there's

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Speaker 1: something about his kind of personality and his toughness and

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Speaker 1: his resilience. They're the best two yard team in league history.

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Speaker 1: They block kicks, it's just not a lot. They're very

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Speaker 1: good situationally, so for now, best roster that does a

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Speaker 1: lot of things well. Number one, Yes, Kansas that he

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Speaker 1: made a big leap, as our next guest will point to,

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Speaker 1: I'm probably right on that. I regretted doing it. I

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Speaker 1: Wright joins us live, and I want to start with this.

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Speaker 1: I generally don't take eleven to four.

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Speaker 5: Oh sorry, it says nice to see the Chiefs back

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Speaker 5: on the hard hierarchy. I was celebrating, Sorry, yeah, go ahead,

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Speaker 5: and you were saying eleven to four.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it. But the truth is, you've got to

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Speaker 1: be honest about this. Is they just needed one legitimate,

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Speaker 1: big time perimeter threat. They did, and suddenly everybody else

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Speaker 1: looks good in all the underneath. But the bigger story

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Speaker 1: is that I never buy into this. I've always said this.

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Speaker 1: You can go into slumps with golf so much downtime

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Speaker 1: gets in your head, or baseball sitting around, but in hockey, basketball, football,

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Speaker 1: you gotta play. You don't have time to get into

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Speaker 1: a slump. Stuff doesn't get into your head. And then

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Speaker 1: I watched Lamar against Kansas City, and I am convinced

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Speaker 5: To a degree, yes, But there's a lot to unback here, Colin,

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Speaker 5: So let me take some time because you are I

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Speaker 5: even saw your tweets saying I tried to tell Jay

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Speaker 5: Mack about when Xavier Worthy came back, and listen, I'm

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Speaker 5: all for you giving Jamack a hard time for.

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Speaker 6: His chief skepticism.

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Speaker 5: But I watched the Super Bowl bubble on Friday's episode.

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Speaker 5: You know who wasn't even in the bubble for the bubble,

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Speaker 5: The Chiefs, exactly. And you knew Xavier Worthy was coming back.

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Speaker 5: So you didn't even make it to October before you

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Speaker 5: had to admit your Chiefs pessimism was unfounded. And by

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Speaker 5: the way, where is the greatest coach quarterback combo in

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Speaker 6: Is free?

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Speaker 5: The Los Angeles Chargers, Oh no, they're dealing with an

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Speaker 5: injury now. They're all of a sudden not a top

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Speaker 5: where you wanted to Gouys. Need to get that off

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Speaker 5: my chest. Listen, the Chiefs are in Lamar's head and

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Speaker 5: he doesn't perform well in big spots. It's just I

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Speaker 5: don't need We do this same exact dance we in

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Speaker 5: the media every year with this player. He is transcendent

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Speaker 5: through a regular season. People say he's taken his game

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Speaker 6: He's all of this.

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Speaker 5: Then in a big spot, he plays his worst game

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Speaker 5: forget and it goes all over again. In the last

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Speaker 5: thirty games, Colin Lamar has two I'm sorry, three multi

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Speaker 5: turnover games in his last thirty the AFC title game

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Speaker 5: against the Chiefs, the Divisional round playoff game against Buffalo,

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Speaker 5: and Sunday against the Chiefs. He is the highest passer

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Speaker 6: Percentage in an NFL history.

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Speaker 5: Yet, against Patrick he has an eighty passer rating and

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Speaker 6: People don't want.

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Speaker 5: For some reason, to admit that Lamar is afflicted by

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Speaker 5: something that has afflicted at great athletes across all of

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Speaker 5: He doesn't play his best in the biggest moments. I

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Speaker 5: don't we have no problem. The baseball playoffs are about

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Speaker 5: to start. Everybody acknowledges Aaron Judge is one of the

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Speaker 5: to this point in his career consistently short in the postseason,

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Speaker 5: plays his worst ball in the biggest moments, and you

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Speaker 5: wonder if he'll get over it. We did it with

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Speaker 5: Lamar And by the way you saw in this game,

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Speaker 5: it just is what it is. Maybe he'll get over it.

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Speaker 5: But it's a big sample size at this.

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Speaker 5: But I have actually I watched Dallas play, Colin, and

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Speaker 6: I give the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: I think it's fair to have them number one hierarchy

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Speaker 5: I'd be frustrated too.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Nick, Right, Chargers are eleven. It should be

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Speaker 1: noted the Chiefs were eleven last week.

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Speaker 5: I'm oh, yeah, who knows Chargers could do it? Listen,

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Speaker 5: not everybody, Colin can. Not every AFC West team can

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Speaker 5: go to the Meadowlands and get a win. Mine can.

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Speaker 5: I don't know about you guys, but mine can do it.

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Speaker 6: Seeal Lighterboddy all Right.

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Speaker 1: Baseball playoffs, Ryder Cup wasn't great for US. College football

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Speaker 1: was nuts, Rams Niners. I don't like the two Monday

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Speaker 1: night football games. I think it's bad quality. I don't

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Speaker 1: get it. I think anytime you shorten a week for

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Speaker 1: a team, so now the Dolphins and the Jets and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals and Denver, Denver's got the coach and the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and the depth of roster to handle it. But

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Speaker 1: then that hurts teams going into next week when they

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Speaker 1: are one day shy. I mean, like New York's gotta

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Speaker 1: fly back and Cincinnati's gotta fly back. Is I think

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Speaker 1: the more times you ask teams to play on different days,

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Speaker 1: then you get less prepared teams. Also, athletes tend to

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Speaker 1: get injured, when there's muscle fatigue, asking players to play

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Speaker 1: on shorter weeks. Listen, if you want to do all

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Speaker 1: these international games, I get it. I'm I am not

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Speaker 1: a fan of I mean nothing against Thursday Night. I've

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Speaker 1: defended it, but I don't think you get the best football,

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Speaker 1: and you never get the best football when he got

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Speaker 1: these multiple Monday night games. Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

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Speaker 4: All right, Colin, some not great news to report on

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Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill. It's official his season is over. He has

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Speaker 4: a dislocated knee. Adam Schefter reported that he tore multiple ligaments,

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Speaker 4: including his ACL Just a gruesome injury, and unfortunately, people

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Speaker 4: are already saying, like, is this the end for Tyreek Hill?

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Speaker 3: Like, not just the season, Colin, but career.

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Speaker 4: This is a guy who's obviously his entire career predicated

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Speaker 4: on speed. He's thirty one, turns thirty two in March.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I don't know if you know this. Odell

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Speaker 4: Beckham's not even in the league anymore. Obviously, Tyreek, he

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Speaker 4: had an exceptional career. I don't know about Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 4: but he's a first team All Pro five times, which

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Speaker 4: which is.

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Speaker 1: Bolstering his case. He's not a Hall of Famer, but

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Speaker 1: he's an exceptional athlete. And you know, I mean we

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Speaker 1: had talked about this. I would have moved him. Last

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Speaker 1: year he publicly criticized his coach and his quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: don't think with a weak armed quarterback you can win

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Speaker 1: in the AFC when you have to go to Baltimore

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City and Cincinnati and and now New England's

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Speaker 1: going to be good again, like all the good teams

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Speaker 1: in the a f C got got some domes out,

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Speaker 1: you know. In the NFC, you got Detroit's really good.

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Speaker 1: There's a dome in la is really good. And you're

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Speaker 1: playing indoors and a lot of outdoor weather with with

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Speaker 1: Tua very limiting and he's a deep threat, and those

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Speaker 1: kind of evaporate in the postseason. So I would have

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Speaker 1: moved him. But now there's there's no market.

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Speaker 4: If you want to zoom out for a moment on

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins, they seem to be at a breaking point.

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Speaker 3: What do they do? I mean, do you ride.

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Speaker 4: With Tua like Jalen Wattle now gets elevated. He's not

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Speaker 4: a one. Jill's a good receiver.

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Speaker 1: This is a great quarterback draft class. I would go

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Speaker 1: and find my next quarterback and I would move to it.

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Speaker 1: And he absolutely has a market. If you put two

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Speaker 1: in a dome team or a warm weather team, you

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Speaker 1: could go. If Carolina is like, yeah, the Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: thing doesn't work, or I think two has got a market,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a huge market, but he's got something.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think in the AFC. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: your best teams now, so New England's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: real deal, and Buffalo's real deal in Baltimore, and this

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Speaker 1: year Pittsburgh could win their division, and Cincinnati when Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow gets back, and you start looking around, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess the Colts and the southern divisions

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Speaker 1: have warmer weather. But I start looking around, Denver's now good,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's good. I just don't think Tua in the

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Speaker 1: AFC is the answer.

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Speaker 4: In January, He's an interesting discussion because Colin, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: just throw one at you randomly. Who do you think

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Speaker 4: has had a better career, Kyler Marie or Tua Tonguevallo.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Kyler is an elite athlete. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Too is So Kyler gives me something, a trait

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Speaker 1: that's lead.

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Speaker 4: Well, doesn't to us elite trade qualify as like the

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Speaker 4: Drew Brees quick.

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Speaker 3: Release stuff, read and react instant first read.

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Speaker 4: Quickly, Like that's what he was coming out of college.

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Speaker 4: We've seen it. He he got to the playoffs. He

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Speaker 4: had them online for the playoffs and got hurt. They

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Speaker 4: made the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So like, I would take Kyler over to it. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a special athlete. I think both are small,

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Speaker 1: both have been dinged up. But if you're asking me

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Speaker 1: my choice, I would take Kyler. So you say Too

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Speaker 1: has a market.

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Speaker 4: Let's say the Saints end up with like the fourth

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Speaker 4: pick overall, they're not going to get a quarterback. Do

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Speaker 4: you say, you know what, Let's go get Tua and

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Speaker 4: quickly rebuild this thing we got olave.

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Speaker 3: You know, we we got some pieces.

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Speaker 4: Maybe in a crack division, we've got a shot.

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Speaker 3: To do something.

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Speaker 1: Two is worth a third and a fifth, not a first.

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Speaker 1: But with that, with that contract, I mean he got paid. Anna,

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Speaker 1: am I gotta pay him. I'll give you one good

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Speaker 1: pick or a couple of average ones. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: two fours. I got a pay him. So I think

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Speaker 1: that there's a market, but it's not a great one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Tummer about Tyreek Hill. Let's move on to the

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Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs, Colin. They have won back to back games,

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Speaker 4: I means, so impressive. Beating the GMN with Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Nick just felt like not mentioning it was Russell Wilson

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Speaker 4: not Jackson Dart and then.

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Speaker 3: Beating a beat up Ravens team. Hooray.

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Speaker 4: But what's interesting here is Travis Kelcey Colin. Our staff

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Speaker 4: has dug into this and they are officially load managing

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Speaker 4: Travis kelce His offensive stat percentage Week one eighty three percent,

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Speaker 4: Week two, seventy six, then down.

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Speaker 3: To seventy three.

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Speaker 4: Week four against the Ravens now was a blowout sixty

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Speaker 4: five percent. They should he's doing nothing. His numbers. I mean, like,

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Speaker 4: I know you play fantasy football heavily. He's like probably

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Speaker 4: a waiver wire tight end. At this point, I'm not

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Speaker 4: even getting he's not a top ten tight end in

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Speaker 4: the league.

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Speaker 3: His numbers prove that. Well he's and now he's not

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Speaker 3: barely playing.

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Speaker 1: He's a first ballot Hall of Famer. This is his

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Speaker 1: last year, and I think Kansas City smartly is saying,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like in baseball. You know, the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: had a lot of pitching injuries. You try to save

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Speaker 1: the guys for October. You try to save them for

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Speaker 1: a big series, a leverage game in late September. I

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Speaker 1: think this is exactly what you do. You see this

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Speaker 1: in baseball all the time, like we've got an aging star,

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Speaker 1: we need him for a key playoff start, And I

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Speaker 1: think that's what you do.

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Speaker 4: I just want to make sure the audience heard you correctly.

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Speaker 4: Your pro load management now.

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Speaker 1: In the last year of a legendary player who could

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Speaker 1: make big plays in big games.

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so when will you talk to Lebron load

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Speaker 4: managing with the Lakers? I want this same energy, Yes,

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Speaker 4: Lebron load manager.

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Speaker 1: I've said for years said Lebron should be playing sixty

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Speaker 1: eight games, not eighty two. I've been on that for

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Speaker 1: a year.

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Speaker 3: I'm a load management guy now.

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Speaker 4: I also believe it for guys who are a little

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Speaker 4: younger than last year in the league. Like if all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden you told me Christian McCaffrey was going

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Speaker 4: to start load managing, I'm pro that. Are you with

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Speaker 4: a Christian McCaffrey line.

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Speaker 1: Even I even say that with young centers like chet Holmgren,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, he should play sixty or fifty five games

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Speaker 1: for two years. Wemby, Yeah, I'm like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: him playing that body type. I want fifty three, sixty three,

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Speaker 1: seventy three and that's all he's ever gonna play.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: So I am not anti load management. Kawhi calls the

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Speaker 1: organization driving in at four. I'm not gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: He's never available in my opinion, because I don't like

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Speaker 1: if Christian McCaffrey, I would, and I'm am a big

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Speaker 1: believer in this, I would have a fourteen to sixteen

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Speaker 1: touch limit.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, then the Niners are. They're losing a lot

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Speaker 3: of you.

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Speaker 4: I think Sequon Barkley coming off last season for four

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Speaker 4: hundred eighty two touches last season for Barkley, that's insane.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have the same juice that he had last year.

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Speaker 6: No are you watching?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I got arrest him. Final story con Let's go

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Speaker 3: to Tampa May.

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Speaker 4: They were lucky in late game scenarios to the for

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Speaker 4: the three and oh start, then it came up short

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Speaker 4: against the Eagles. Todd Bowles big game this week Bucks

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Speaker 4: at Seahawks. That's good. Todd Bowles knows his team cannot

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Speaker 4: continue to play from behind a fight.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have that every week.

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Speaker 3: But you can't fight and get behind the eight ball

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Speaker 3: against good teams and expect to win.

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Speaker 1: So we're always gonna have fight, and we just got

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Speaker 1: to clean up mistakes.

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Speaker 3: Now it's getting to that point where we got to

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Speaker 3: cut them down.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think everybody knows what Tampa is. A good team,

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Speaker 1: not a great one, and that's fine.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 4: They're dangerous in the playoffs once they get everybody back.

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Speaker 4: Remember no, Mike Evans, right, but this Seattle team, hey,

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Speaker 4: I gotta give it. I'm loads to give you credit,

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Speaker 4: right because you know you're calling whatever.

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Speaker 1: Seattle is younger Seattle's got. When you watch Seattle play young, fast,

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Speaker 1: mostly inexpensive, like Seattle has been put together very well,

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Speaker 1: they're really really I mean they're a bungled bumble from

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Speaker 1: being undefeated, and they remember they went to Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 1: hammered a Steeler team that keeps.

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Speaker 4: Winning games in the second half. But yes, so Seattle Tampa,

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Speaker 4: I'm seeing three. I don't think that sticks. I think

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Speaker 4: we're going to see a three and a half. I

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Speaker 4: am curious if you had a question about this quarterback situation,

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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold versus Baker Mayfield, who right now is.

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Speaker 3: The better quarterback going into this game?

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Speaker 1: Well, they're both. I mean Sam is more athletic, He's

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Speaker 1: a bigger, stronger athlete, and Baker, I think just from

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Speaker 1: the pocket when he plants his foot, probably throws a prettier,

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Speaker 1: quicker release ball. They're both excellent, they're both team friendly deals.

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Speaker 1: I can like him both. I've always said Sam's bigger.

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Speaker 1: I think Sam is a better athlete. Sam can be reckless,

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Speaker 1: but Baker can be reckless. I want both of them

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Speaker 1: throwing about twenty eight times a game.

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Speaker 4: All right, fine, let me adjust the question. Two minutes left,

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Speaker 4: ty game, who do you trust more with the ball?

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Speaker 4: Baker or Darnald? Well, history tells you Baker. But now

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Speaker 4: here here's my thing. Most games don't come down to that.

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Speaker 1: If I get a series, a big series in the

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Speaker 1: third quarter, first quarter, second quarter, and I need playmaking,

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Speaker 1: which you often do, I would take Sam J.

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Speaker 2: Mack with a news. Well that's the news, and thanks

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys taking on the Jets or other regional action.

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Speaker 4: Then in America's Game of the Week, Justin Herbert and

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Speaker 4: the Chargers, check on the Commanders or Lions Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Check local listings for the games in your area only

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Speaker 3: on Fox.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't take a long time for excellence to surface.

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Speaker 1: So we're a month into the season, it goes seventeen game.

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Speaker 1: We're not even a quarter of the way into the season.

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Speaker 1: And right now, if you look at the AFC and

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Speaker 1: NFC playoff teams today, I think this is mostly what

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Speaker 1: it's going to look like. In the AFC, you have

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Chargers, ind In Pittsburgh and Kansas City. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Jacksonville and Cincinnati will maintain their playoff spot. I

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Speaker 1: would pick Denver and New England. So I think I

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Speaker 1: think five of the seven will remain. I think in

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Speaker 1: the NFC it goes Philadelphia, Niners, Detroit, Tampa, Seattle, Rams,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, Washington. I think if Jaden Daniels gets healthy,

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Speaker 1: will make it. I don't buy into San Francisco. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they have the roster or the quarterback of Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have the roster or the quarterback

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Speaker 1: of the Rams. I think San Francisco has predicted we'll

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Speaker 1: finish third. But a lot of this stuff we're a

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Speaker 1: month in. I mean, Cincinnati obviously is not going to

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Speaker 1: be a playoff team. They were, you know, but it

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Speaker 1: does not take long for you know, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: pick games when you add lines like I know the

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Speaker 1: Culture going to beat the Raiders. Are they going to

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Speaker 1: beat him by six and a half? I think they are.

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Speaker 1: You add lines, you make picks. I had a winning week,

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Speaker 1: don't always. That's tough picking. I said this five years ago.

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Speaker 1: I bang on it every year. The more reliant the

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Speaker 1: league is with quarterbacks, the easier it is. It's becoming

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Speaker 1: the NBA. A month in. You know who can play?

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Sun reporter Brian Wacker says Lamar Jackson probably misses

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Speaker 1: Sunday's game with the Texans hamstring injury. All right, here's

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Speaker 1: the schedule for Week five. I've already got my two

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Speaker 1: favorite games. I have a game, an upset game to

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Speaker 1: keep your eye on. If I could bet the Rams

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Speaker 1: at home against San Francisco and the Blazing five, I would.

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Speaker 1: I think La wins. Keep your eye on the Saints

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Speaker 1: at home in the New York Giants as a possible upset.

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Speaker 1: My lock is the Rams. I also love the Colts

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Speaker 1: at home against the Raiders minus six and a half.

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Speaker 1: I think the Saints are a very tasty upset potential.

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Speaker 1: And keep your eyes New England at Buffalo. A lit

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Speaker 1: up said alert that game will be close. Jmack, what

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Speaker 1: jumps out? Do you have a lock in and.

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Speaker 4: Up a lot of stuff? Number One, the Saints are

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Speaker 4: favored over the job they are. Now that is a shocker.

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Speaker 4: I always pick them. Now I see minus one.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at Monday night, Colin.

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Speaker 4: So remember last week at this time, we're like, oh

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Speaker 4: my gosh, how good are the Chargers. They're loaded. They

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Speaker 4: go and kind of sort of lay an egg. Okay,

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Speaker 4: everybody's gassing up the Chiefs. Thank god, Zave, you're worthy back.

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Speaker 4: This is a new team. They just smash the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: They're in the hurd hierarchy.

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Speaker 3: Jags at home Monday night getting a field goal. Can

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Speaker 3: I interest you in Jacksonville. No, Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: I watched Jacksonville against San Francisco. They are so mistake prone,

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Speaker 1: they're so weird culturally. Is that Kansas City does one

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Speaker 1: thing well, really well. They don't turn them all over.

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Speaker 1: If you beat them, you beat them. I do think

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting because I think Jacksonville's got real talent ATM.

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Speaker 1: That running back. I mean, they got playmakers. I mean

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. You know what's funny about that game. Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: is not interesting to most people, but Travis Hunter. He's

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Speaker 1: not dominating as a receiver or a corner. Pick a lane.

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Speaker 1: We said that before the draft. Pick Alane, what are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do? He's just an He's just a good athlete.

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Speaker 1: It's the NFL. Everybody's a good athlete. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: whole league's played great athletes. I think so.

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Speaker 4: My Atlanta Falcons are not on the board. I don't

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Speaker 4: have to bet them this week, thankfully. Arizona favorbody like eight,

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Speaker 4: nine ten. It's going up against the Titans. I love them,

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Speaker 4: I really like them.

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Speaker 1: Can I can I say this? What happens if Donald

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Speaker 1: beats Baker?

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Speaker 3: Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm just saying for you know, my stance on

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Speaker 1: this now. I do think Baker's really good. I've always

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Speaker 1: said I thought Darnold was the more natural talent. What

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Speaker 1: it fold?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Sammy Darnald, I know you love Sam So Colin.

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Speaker 3: The gambling is a great equalizer.

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Speaker 6: I'm here.

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Speaker 3: You can add futures for the win the division.

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Speaker 4: Okay, NFC West Rams are the favorite, followed by the

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers. Nope, and the Seahawks are plus three

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Speaker 4: seventy at. I don't know if I should say it,

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Speaker 4: but they're plus three seventy to win the division. Are

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Speaker 4: you you want to put one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Thousand whatever you want to put Seattle, your guy.

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Speaker 1: Darwish, Seattle play and watch San Francisco play. What is

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Speaker 1: the younger, more athletic, more dynamic roster? And I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's close. It's a marathon, not a sprint though.

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Speaker 1: Remember no, my Mayhawks are going to be healthy. Younger

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Speaker 1: guys get healthier, faster, f after injury.

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Speaker 3: Yeah,