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Speaker 2: it to a Friday. It's a meat Friday, and that

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Speaker 2: also means it's a fritzy Friday. Curious what's on the

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Speaker 2: menu today? Absolutely absolutely poor tenderloin with apple, jellyglaze, garlic,

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Speaker 2: mashed potatoes, balsamic, Brussels sprouts with bacon. Who has it

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Speaker 2: better than we do?

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Speaker 3: Lot?

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Speaker 2: Once again, if Brussels sprouts are so good, why do

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Speaker 2: we have to always dress them up? When somebody says, man,

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Speaker 2: I really like them, Well, if I take away the

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Speaker 2: bacon and some of the other stuff that you put

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Speaker 2: on it, do you really like Brussels Sprounce And the

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Speaker 2: answer is you don't, yes, Todd.

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Speaker 4: Or if you have to all grotten something, it might

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Speaker 4: not be good by itself.

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Speaker 2: All right eight seven seven three DP show email and

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Speaker 2: shot at potatoes by the way, Yes it is.

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Speaker 5: I'm ready to fist fight if Todd wants to.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why I have the protective uh.

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Speaker 4: Potatoes vegetable all grot it's more of it, like the

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Speaker 4: certain steam vegetable where you got to kind of put

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Speaker 2: Okay, but can you think of another food that you

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Speaker 2: have to dress up more than Brussels sprouts?

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Speaker 5: Brussels sprouts.

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Speaker 6: Brussels sprouts my dad used to have I think he

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Speaker 6: probably still does, but he would just steam them and

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Speaker 6: eat them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And we were always like, dude, that is gross, smells. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it stinks up the whole house.

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Speaker 2: But can you think of another food that you dress

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Speaker 2: up and you go, man, these are good? Yes?

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Speaker 7: Oh, that's not good without the help.

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Speaker 6: Yes, oh okay, yeah, like cabbage you kind of no, actually, cabbage,

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Speaker 6: you can have.

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Speaker 5: It just straight up.

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Speaker 2: It's not good anyway.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, now that's too people I'm taking out today.

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Speaker 5: Anybody else want to run them weekend?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but cabbage reminds me of growing up where my

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Speaker 2: mom would just say just eat it, like there was

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Speaker 2: no other choice. But you had to eat it, and

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'd rather not eat. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: chew on a branch or something here not having cabbage.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a play of the day, poll question stat

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Speaker 2: of the day, all that forthcoming. Operator Tyler is standing

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Speaker 2: by to take your phone calls. Eagles hold off the

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Speaker 2: Vikings last night, and DeAndre Swift had twenty eight carries

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Speaker 2: for one hundred and seventy five yards. And I started

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Speaker 2: to do a little research here for a change, and

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Speaker 2: Howie Roseman, if I just say Howie Roseman, do you

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Speaker 2: know who Howie Roseman is. He's the general manager of

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles. Keep in mind, going into the draft,

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Speaker 2: there was a lot of talk that maybe the Eagles

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Speaker 2: were going to go all in with their top ten

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Speaker 2: pick and they were going to take Jon Robinson. Well

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Speaker 2: they didn't. They got DeAndre Swift and didn't give up

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Speaker 2: much to get him. They lost their leading rusher, Miles Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Instead of dumping assets into a devalued position, Roseman sent

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Speaker 2: off a fourth round pick to get DeAndre Swift. Now,

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Speaker 2: they used their first round pick on Jalen Carter, who,

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Speaker 2: by the way, is a beast, had one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy five yards last night a touchdown Swift did, and

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Speaker 2: so Roseman and Hurts get a lot of the credit. Well,

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Speaker 2: Hurts does, but Howie Roseman, that's another That's a deep,

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Speaker 2: deep team. And they don't look great on offense. You

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Speaker 2: have a new offensive coordinator and I think at some

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Speaker 2: point they realized passing game is not working. DeAndre Swift,

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Speaker 2: let's just load him up, and they rode him. Vikings

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Speaker 2: that Kirk D. Cousins eighth player in NFL history to

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Speaker 2: He joins luminaries like Jim Kelly, Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady,

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Speaker 2: All right, Seaton Poll question today at least for the

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Speaker 2: first hour, and then run down the guest list. Start

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Speaker 2: college or NFL. Well, we're going to go to Boulder,

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Speaker 2: Colorado here in about fifteen minutes. Lewis Riddick of the

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Speaker 2: Mothership is there covering Colorado versus Colorado State. So if

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Speaker 2: it's Dion relating, Okay.

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Speaker 6: Colorado State head coach Jay Norvial's comments were smart or silly?

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Speaker 2: All right, let me play the comments. He's at a bar.

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Speaker 2: They usually do these rat you know, every week radio show.

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Speaker 2: The coach has his own show, and you're playing to

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Speaker 2: a home crowd. You got a home court advantage here

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Speaker 2: and getting everybody fired up, and here's the coach for

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Speaker 2: Colorado State.

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Speaker 9: You know, we're excited, our kids are really you know,

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Speaker 9: we had to do a bunch of ESPN videos and

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Speaker 9: that's great.

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Speaker 1: I loved it.

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Speaker 9: And but our kids came out of those videos really

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Speaker 9: with a chip on her shoulder. They're tired of all

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Speaker 9: that stuff. They really are.

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Speaker 1: Tired of it.

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Speaker 9: And I sat on with the aspning today and I

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Speaker 9: don't care if they hear it in Boulder. I told

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Speaker 9: them I took my hat off and I took my

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Speaker 9: glasses off, and I said, when I talked to growing ups,

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Speaker 9: I take my hat and my glasses off. That's what

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Speaker 9: my mother talked.

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Speaker 2: So you know, they're not gonna like us, no matter

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Speaker 2: what we say or.

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Speaker 9: Do, doesn't matter. Okay, so let's go up there and play.

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Speaker 9: And so that's just how I feel about it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that puts it in context. I would think, I

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Speaker 2: think he's wearing a visor while he is saying this

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Speaker 2: to the you know, the Booster club or whatever it is. Well,

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Speaker 2: of course Dion had to use this as motivation. Its

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Speaker 2: only Dion can. Everything's personal. It was personal the first game,

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Speaker 2: it was personal last week, and now it's personal. Here's

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Speaker 9: I matter of my own business, watching some film, trying

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Speaker 9: to get ready, trying to get out of here and

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Speaker 9: be the best coach I.

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Speaker 3: Could be it. I look up and I reasonable jumping,

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Speaker 3: and Dan said about us once again, why would you

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Speaker 2: We don't talk about no matter.

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Speaker 9: All we do is go out here, workout but self

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Speaker 9: and do I Javo say.

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Speaker 2: But when they give us ammunition, that's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: good game. They don't mess round and made it.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a great test the Battle of Colorado.

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Speaker 9: But they don't mess run and made it.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: When I heard the comment yesterday and I was like,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing? What are you doing? Okay, he

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Speaker 2: doesn't take his hat off or his sunglasses. Oh not

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Speaker 2: the way I was raised. Now it's personal. Now personal, Okay, you.

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Speaker 6: Don't bring mothers into the equation. You don't bring mothers

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that's how my mom raised me. All right, good, good,

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Speaker 2: So now it's personal. Does your pole question have to

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Speaker 5: Well, I had the one. Are the comments also being overblown?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, are they overblown?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by Dion?

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Speaker 5: But it's smart though.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he's already got the log personal yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: he's already got them all.

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Speaker 2: No, I get it right, absolutely, I get it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: do I think that they were still going to go

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Speaker 2: they thought, you know, we're in for a really tough

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Speaker 2: three and a half. I don't think people think this

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Speaker 2: is going to be a close game. But now I

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Speaker 2: know it's not going to be a close game because

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Speaker 2: it's all together now personal.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the line moved a point and a half since

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Speaker 7: those comments. It was twenty two and a half when

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Speaker 7: we were on the air yesterday, Now it's twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Oh, coach, Okay, that's right.

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Speaker 7: Coach, Is this on a tee for Dion?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 7: He's looking to have these things? Sure, if you can't

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Speaker 7: manufacture it, he takes a light little jab and makes

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Speaker 7: it no thing.

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Speaker 5: That's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whip the kids up. Yeah, okay, yeah, se.

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Speaker 6: Is Dion getting a little bit of the uh he

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Speaker 6: skipped the line treatment from other coaches.

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Speaker 5: Like maybe Jay Normal.

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Speaker 2: I think he should because now you know you're hearing

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Speaker 2: conversations or analysts saying, you know, this paves the way

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Speaker 2: for other black coaches. No, it doesn't. This is Deon Sanders.

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Speaker 2: It's not like Now, if you're a famous coach, it

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Speaker 2: may pave the way for you that maybe you're going

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Speaker 2: to have a big time program or a big time

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Speaker 2: school that'll take a chance on a big time personality there.

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Speaker 2: But there's only one Deion Sanders. If Yale decided to

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Speaker 2: hire JJ Watt to be their head coach and then

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Speaker 2: college game day would go to Yale, then you'd say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's a famous person jumping the line. I mean, Dion

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Speaker 2: jumped the line. But keep in mind he went to

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Speaker 2: Jackson State. He tried to jump the line and go

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Speaker 2: to Florida State. But what he did, he took the job.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to prove he could recruit, they could win,

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Speaker 2: and then he caught the attention of a program that's

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Speaker 2: been down in the dumbs for decades. They took a chance,

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Speaker 2: and now he is the topic of college football.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he'd but based on the strength of Dion's career,

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Speaker 6: that's why he didn't have to be you know, the

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Speaker 6: strength and conditioning coach, and then the defensive back coach,

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Speaker 6: and then this and then that, and then you know,

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Speaker 6: bouncing all over the country building a resume for himself.

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Speaker 5: His playing career is his resume.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but you still have to coach. Like Steve Nash

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Speaker 2: took over the Nets, I jumped the line, like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer, one of the great point

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Speaker 2: guards of all time. Now he worked with the Golden

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Speaker 5: Didn't get the Dallas Cowboys job.

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Speaker 2: Well, he got the Brooklyn Nets job with the team

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Speaker 2: that was supposed to be competing for a championship.

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Speaker 2: You know that kids are going to be imitating talking

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Speaker 2: Now you can't afford to lose this game. This would

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Speaker 4: Why would Florida State and some of these other programs

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Speaker 2: And coached before he was. He was an unknown quantity.

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Speaker 4: But that's the same for Colorado. Then they took a chance.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, he was at jack jacks State State.

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Speaker 6: See that's the thing, Like it was like a yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what it's gonna that'll be, That'll be what is

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Speaker 5: Then that sounds crazy.

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Speaker 2: It is, it is.

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Speaker 2: They had talent. I just thought they had top, top

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Speaker 2: So he'll be on the call Colorado, Colorado State with

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Speaker 2: How is morale in Boulder, Colorado?

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Speaker 1: Dan? It couldn't be higher, man, I mean people around

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to like today, we're gonna go over

438
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Speaker 1: to the offices and we're gonna talk with him. And

439
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: I've texted back and forth with him over the years,

440
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: and these are some real good questions that I'm gonna

441
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: wind up asking him just about how he how he

442
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: runs this operation both from a you know, a preparation

443
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: standpoint and then a game day standpoint. But I'll tell

444
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: you this, it looks as smooth as could be. And

445
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I think the thing that maybe people

446
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: will in due time give him more credit for it

447
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: is the fact that, look, Dion is Deon's not just

448
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: about marketing and hype. This is a football guy man

449
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 1: who I look, I remember back in the early nineties

450
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: when I played with him. He is super super football intelligent. Now,

451
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: so let's not just let's not get into the to

452
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: all the hype and the and the kickoff returns and

453
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: interceptions and the way he played the game. This guy's

454
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: a student of the game, and he's a great leader,

455
00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: and he's a guy who's tremendously charismatic. So people don't

456
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: want to believe that. People keep like wanting to like

457
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: make digs at this program and say, look, this is

458
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: just a flash in the pan. There's no way they

459
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: can sustain this. Don't bet on that. Don't bet on that,

460
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: You'll make yourself look foolish.

461
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: He's Lewis Riddick and the Mothership. He covers the NFL

462
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: and college football. He'll be on the call with Mark Jones.

463
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: That'll be Saturday night at ten pm Eastern. Yeah. When

464
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: you if I would have said, at the beginning of

465
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: the year, when you get your schedule, yep, so you

466
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: knew you were going to do this game in the preseason.

467
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: No, we did not. This is you know, you know

468
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: how it goes really in college from week to week.

469
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: We kind of like formulate the schedule as it goes along,

470
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: because you know, obviously with college games, you want to

471
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: have the most impactful games in the most impactful time slot. So,

472
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, we were just alerted that we were getting

473
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Speaker 1: this game about a week ago, and so, no, there

474
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: hasn't been a whole lot towards it. The first two

475
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: we knew the first couple of games, you know, the

476
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season, but no, this one

477
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: was was we just found this out about week ago.

478
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 2: I saw where mel Kiper said that Dion's son is

479
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: now he'll be a first round draft pick. Yep, Okay,

480
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: why wasn't he a first round draft pick when he

481
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: was playing at Jackson State? Why is it that you

482
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 2: play two games like this? Drives me crazy. He's the

483
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: same player, And was he a first round draft pick

484
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: at Jackson State or he just became one? Because now

485
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: he's doing it at Colorado against TCU and against Nebraska.

486
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Speaker 1: You're you're hitting the nail on the head. Dam I mean,

487
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: look a lot of times what happens is well, first

488
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: of all, you know what a lot of what Dion

489
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: wanted to do down at Jackson State and what he

490
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: wanted to do for HBCUs overall was get them more

491
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: notoriety and get college scouting departments, scouting directors. General manager

492
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: is taking that that football down there much more seriously

493
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: from a NFL perspective, And they weren't that that's just

494
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: the fact they weren't. And if you will throw on

495
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: the tape over the past two years of what Shador

496
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: was able to do down there, you will see many

497
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: of the same things he's doing right now. I mean,

498
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: he is a guy who is extremely poised, confident, smart,

499
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: strong in the pocket, can can create throw the football

500
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: at all three levels. He can do it all. It's

501
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: just that now he's doing it on a national stage

502
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: against teams that have quote unquote brand recognition. Everybody knows.

503
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: Everybody knows TCU, everybody knows Nebraska. So now that you're

504
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: doing it on Fox, now that you're doing it on

505
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: ESPN and people are talking about it, they're kind of like,

506
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: there's more eyeballs on it. Now people are going, oh, okay,

507
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: all right, maybe he is pretty good. So look, he's

508
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: been doing this his whole career and now he's just

509
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: doing it on a bigger stage where now people are going, like,

510
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, the bandwagon jumpers are jumping on And I

511
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: don't want to say that about NFL front offices because

512
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: they're not necessarily bandwagon jumpers. But I think now, you know,

513
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of the herd mentality does kind of

514
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: creep in, which is, well, okay, well now it seems

515
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: like it's okay to maybe kind of step out there,

516
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, and go out on a limb and say, yeah,

517
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: this guy is extremely talented and he is doing it

518
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: at a higher level of competition quote unquote, but look,

519
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: he hasn't changed as far as the characteristics that he

520
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: has put on display from day one that he stepped

521
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: foot down to Jackson states, he's getting better and better.

522
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: But this young man has always been that player. And

523
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch him and you just

524
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: change the uniform, he looks the same. He's just getting

525
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: better and he's doing it on a bigger stage, that's all.

526
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: And Travis Hunter was one of the top recruits coming

527
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: out of high school. Yeah, could you see him playing

528
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 2: two way in the NFL if.

529
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: Someone will let him. Yeah, it's a brillianod. It's not

530
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: going to be about Travis not being capable of doing it.

531
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: It's going to be whether or not people are willing

532
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: to let him do it. And look, I mean there's.

533
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: Been very just Deon c himself and Travis Hunter.

534
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: No question, absolutely, no question. And when you break down

535
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: his tape, Travis right now may be more skilled and

536
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: more impactful as a wide receiver than even his as

537
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: a corner because he, I mean just exquisite route running ability,

538
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: body control, hand eye coordination, attract the football. I mean

539
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: it's almost like these guys get bored on just on

540
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: defense because they're not at the point of attack enough.

541
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: I mean, they can be, you know, eliminated from a

542
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: game just by avoiding it. The wide receiver, you can't

543
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: eliminate me. If they want to get the ball to me,

544
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: they'll scheme it up to get it to me and

545
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: put my hands on. Travis is different, he really is.

546
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't like, you know, engaging in

547
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: hyperble too much, Dan, but look, having played with Dion

548
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: and actually been in AWE as a teammate, at how

549
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: fluid and different in one of one he was as

550
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: a teammate and as a player. When you watch Travis

551
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: Hunter and any time he's at the point of attack,

552
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: if you're a betting man, and you could actually like

553
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: freeze live action in that moment in time and go,

554
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: I want to put some money on whether or not

555
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: this guy's going to win this contest. You would bet

556
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: on this kid every single time. And that's what you

557
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: would have done with Dion too. I've seen it. These

558
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: guys are different. This young man is different. And when

559
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: you see Deon talk about Travis Hunter, his eyes get

560
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: this big because there's no doubt what he's seeing is

561
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: that's a modern day version of me. He's that legit.

562
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: I hope he puts on a show tomorrow night.

563
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: What's your favorite Deon Sanders' story, either on the field

564
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: or off the field.

565
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: I think well, I think on the field nineteen ninety two,

566
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: we were playing in Washington don at RFK, and he

567
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: hadn't he hadn't been around because he was playing baseball

568
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: at the time, and that's my rookie year really in

569
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. And there's all this buzz about Deonz coming tonight.

570
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: Deon's coming today, He's coming to He's gonna be at

571
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: the hotel today, He's going to be there. He had

572
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: taken he hadn't hadn't been part of any practice, any meeting. Nothing.

573
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: He showed up on game day. They had his uniform

574
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: laid out, and all of a sudden, I'm just like,

575
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: I've never met the guy in my heart beat, because

576
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, he was he was the dude at that time.

577
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: And I remember, Man, we were doing we were having

578
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: our kickoff return meeting on the sidelin because we're getting

579
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: ready to go out there and do kickoff return. And

580
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna be back there. They were

581
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: gonna put him back there. And he walked into the

582
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: huddle and he said, just give me a little room,

583
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: little room, I'm taking this thing to the house. He

584
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: said that to a group and I was just like,

585
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: this guy hasn't even practice. He's been playing baseball. He

586
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, what's what you what are you talking about?

587
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, Dan. They kicked the ball

588
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: off man and I was the right the left end

589
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: on the front line of the kickoff return to man.

590
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: I'll dropped back, take my drop, you know, and I

591
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: could see the ball going, you know, and you hear

592
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: the crowd kind of building, you know, as obviously the

593
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: guy catches it and I'm getting my block and out

594
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: of the right corner, out of my right eye. Just

595
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 1: see this blur and I see these lights kicking up.

596
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: Yep.

597
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: Uh oh, he frozen off and I see him man

598
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: from about forty forty.

599
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: Oh no wait wait wait, hold on.

600
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: You froze up started holding that ball with two hands

601
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: and then started putting it up in there. I was like,

602
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: the first time he touches it, I'm sorry.

603
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on for a second. Hold on, Oh man,

604
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: we got the best there.

605
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 5: We got right to the part where a blur went

606
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 5: right by.

607
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah you guys, yeah, okay, okay, so a blur went

608
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: by you on the kickoff with Dion.

609
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, So yeah, he goes by, and I just

610
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: see I see him coming. He's breaking right up the

611
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: middle of the formation and he breaks right to the

612
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: sideline and he's about maybe forty yard line at this point,

613
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: the plus forty yard line, and I see he has

614
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: the ball on two hands and then he takes it

615
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: and you see him put it in one hand, and

616
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: you just see him start high stepping, and I'm sitting

617
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: and running and as I'm running, I'm going. He told

618
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: us he was going to take this thing to the house.

619
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: He told he hadn't had any practice. I had never

620
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: met the guy, and then he danced for about fifteen

621
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: seconds twenty seconds in the end zone. It was this.

622
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: It was the coolest damn thing, man, because I was like,

623
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: this guy literally just flew in the town. They put

624
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: his uniform out, he went back there and he took

625
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: it one hundred plus just like that, and I'm going,

626
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: I just looked at I was just going. And from

627
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: that point on, I was like, look, anything that he

628
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: wants to do, anything that he puts his mind to.

629
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: He's been successful his whole life, let alone what he's

630
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: overcome off the field with his health situation over the

631
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: past couple of years. He's a unique dude.

632
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Man.

633
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: More really is our dot to be in all of them?

634
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: More impressive Bo Jackson or Deon Sanders.

635
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: Oh well, I think because of Bo's power, Like Bo's

636
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: almost like a myth man. It's like, wasn't even like real,

637
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, how many people, right, I mean

638
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: I said somebody the other day, how many people you

639
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: know they can take a baseball bat and crack it

640
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: over their head and split it. Yeah, I mean I

641
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: break my neck. He's Bo. Bo's different And I think

642
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Dian would tell you that too. Bo's just a different

643
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: style that that, that kind of power and speed. I

644
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: don't think we've ever seen that. I don't know if

645
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: we'll ever see that again.

646
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: I know you were in the Eagles front office, if

647
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: you were in the Jets front office right now, they said,

648
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: all right, Lewis, what are we going to do with

649
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: the quarterbacking position, whether it's trading for somebody or as

650
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: a starter or bringing in a backup? What would you recommend?

651
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think at this point what you drafted Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson number two overall, he's had what five six months

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Speaker 1: around Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 2: What can he play? Though?

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Speaker 1: I know you, I know, but I mean, but think

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Speaker 1: about the alternative you're gonna bring to somebody new who

657
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Speaker 1: hasn't been in your system, who hasn't been around your team,

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Speaker 1: and you think you're just gonna throw him into the

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Speaker 1: mix here now in week two and he's just gonna

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Speaker 1: give you something that Zach can't. Just don't really see

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Speaker 1: that happening either. Would you want a veteran presence and

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Speaker 1: influence in your quarterback room? Yeah? I think he needs that.

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Speaker 1: I think the construct of your of your quarterback room

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Speaker 1: is very important. But what would you be telling yourself,

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Speaker 1: what would you be saying to your Well, I guess

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you do have to just face the

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Speaker 1: fact that maybe you made a mistake.

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Speaker 2: The Niners did. I mean, the Niners admitted they made

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Speaker 1: True, you're right, You're right. And then as I think

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Speaker 1: through it, I mean, I get your point, but I

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Speaker 1: think for them, Look, Nathaniel Hackett's is gonna have to

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Speaker 1: work around whatever deficiencies they still think Zach has, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make this work with him and

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Speaker 1: ride the other strength of this team as far as

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Speaker 1: they can go. That's is gonna be what they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do, because there's nobody who's just gonna ride

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Speaker 1: in and just kind of save the day and pick

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Speaker 1: up where Aaron left off. This is not gonna happen. Look,

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Speaker 1: this is a tragic case of a franchise quarterback getting

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Speaker 1: hurt in a in a in a way that you

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Speaker 1: never could have foreseen as there is, there's no two

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Speaker 1: ways about that. But this is but this is Zach's moment.

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Speaker 1: Man from a physical perspective, that isn't the issue. It's

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Speaker 1: all up here. We always knew that about jac Wilson

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see whether or not Aaron helped him get

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Speaker 1: that going the right way or not.

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Speaker 2: Have fun. We'll be watching on Saturday night. My best

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Speaker 2: to Mark Jones. Uh. We played a few basketball games

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Speaker 2: against each other.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll let him know.

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Speaker 2: Bag a man, you got it. That's Lewis Riddick. He's

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Speaker 6: Colorado State head coach j Norvile's comments were smart or silly?

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Speaker 5: Overwhelmingly silly.

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Speaker 2: Eight Lewis Riddick was talking about Bo Jackson and Bo

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Speaker 2: does seem like its mythology. Where did you ever see

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Speaker 2: Bo Jackson? Yeah, what was that like? And having interviewed

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Speaker 2: him when he won the Heisman and he wasn't a

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Speaker 2: good speaker at the time, had a speech impediment and

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Speaker 2: you know, became a better speaker. But I remember he

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Speaker 2: was really shy. And when I first met him, he's

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Speaker 2: bigger than what I thought sometimes you'll meet. First time

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Speaker 2: I met Jack Nicholas, I'm like, wait, golden bear, and

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Speaker 2: I was taller than him or Johnny Bench and then

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Speaker 2: I'm taller than them. And then Bo came in. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: that looks like he is a football player. And to

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Speaker 2: watch Bo play baseball, watch him play football. He had

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Speaker 2: a different gear. Dion was with us in Houston at

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and I remember he was running backwards

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Speaker 2: and we were running forward. Now he's retired, he's got

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Speaker 2: a bad toe that he would eventually have amputated, and

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Speaker 2: he had a different gear, like when you're around fast guys,

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Speaker 2: like he's fast to fast guys. As Marvin likes to say,

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Speaker 2: you know, you have certain guys like that, they're just fast.

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Speaker 2: And Dion and Bo they were fast around fast guys.

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Speaker 2: There's certain wide receivers that are fast, but then there's

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Speaker 2: one that's you know, Tyreek Hill has got a different gear.

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Speaker 2: He's fast to fast guys. And I just remember Dion

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Speaker 2: when he took off and I went, oh boy, And

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Speaker 2: I know we're not athletic, but he got to a

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Speaker 2: really high speed really quickly. And Bo is that way

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Speaker 2: as well. Here's Dion telling us the story about when

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Speaker 2: he first met Bo Jackson on the football field when.

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Speaker 3: I played for Florida State as a freshman. True story.

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Speaker 3: Bowl was at Alburn back when the back to brit

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Speaker 3: full were probably the best hand of the running backs

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Speaker 3: I've ever seen in college. These guys are unbelievable, and

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, you heard of bow jacks, so

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Speaker 3: you're kind of in all As a young collegiate, I'm

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Speaker 3: seventeen years old playing Florida State eighteen at the time.

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Speaker 3: Just during eighteen, Bo goes behind the huddle in alburn

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Speaker 3: and throws his hands up as if he was sick.

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Speaker 3: Designed the crowd to get it up. They start shearing

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Speaker 3: and and appauding. And I was playing left corner. BO

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Speaker 3: got a sweep to his left away from me and

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Speaker 3: hit it. I mean hit it, and he was gone.

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Speaker 3: I came out of nowhere because I was I could fly,

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Speaker 3: came and got him, ran up on him like it

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Speaker 3: was no other. With his right arm, he extended it,

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Speaker 3: placed it on my helmet like as if he was

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Speaker 3: praying for me, palming my helmet, and stiffed me down

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Speaker 3: and kept going into the end zone like I wasn't

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Speaker 3: even there. That was my Bo Jackson moment.

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Speaker 2: Damn, that's a good story. I'm gonna heal you. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna put my hand on your head, Dion, coming out

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Speaker 2: of nowhere because I could fly and he hit it.

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Speaker 1: He hit it.

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Speaker 2: Ah Man, good stuff, good stuff, Paul, and Iowa, Hey Paul,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 11: Well, listening to all the Colorado talk this morning made

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Speaker 11: me have a question I'd like to post to you guys.

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Speaker 11: You know, we're a few weeks into the football year

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Speaker 11: now and we can kind of look around the nation,

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Speaker 11: and my question is which of these teams is trying

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Speaker 11: harder to make us believe that no one believes in

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Speaker 11: them and they're underrated? Your Colorado bull Junks or the

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Speaker 11: Taylor Swift attached Kansas City chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if is Travis Kelcey going to

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Speaker 2: be able to play this week? And I guess he's questionable.

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Speaker 2: I imagine Chris Jones would be in the lineup. Jason

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Speaker 2: Kelsey after the game last night, was asked by Tony

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Speaker 2: Gonzalez about his brother he's dating Taylor Swift. I think

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Speaker 2: by his non answer he answered the question that something's

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Speaker 2: going on between Taylor and Travis. I'm guessing something's going on.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, even if there isn't just keep

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Speaker 5: answering vaguely.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, but I'm waiting. I'm waiting for the Well,

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Speaker 2: what's more important to Travis getting back on the football

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Speaker 2: field or dating Taylor Swift? You know, went to New York,

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Speaker 2: apparently to hang out with her, just saying, you know

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Speaker 2: how the media can be. Well, what are your priorities here?

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Speaker 2: I'd say, I'm not sure right now?

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Speaker 5: Enjoying my life, Yeah, super borings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I got Eric in Atlanta. Hi, Eric, what's

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Speaker 2: on your mind today?

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Speaker 12: ADP just wanted to weigh in on the Dion situation. Okay,

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Speaker 12: so I can't college golf for about eight years, and

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Speaker 12: if somebody said Phil Nicholson wanted to come in and

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Speaker 12: take a head coaching job, how am I going to

847
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Speaker 12: feel slighted about that? These guys their professional careers preclude

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Speaker 12: them from having to cut their teeth and pay their dues.

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Speaker 12: I just think that's ridiculous. Eon can do whatever he wants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have to look at it. I

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Speaker 2: think you have to look at it individually. There's only

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Speaker 2: one don. But let's say somebody of lesser star power

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden jumped the line. And I don't

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Speaker 2: care if it's a white coach or a black coach,

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Speaker 2: and more than likely it'll be a white coach. But

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Speaker 2: you jump the line, what is your resume? Did Doc

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Speaker 2: Rivers jump the line? He was a broadcaster Steve Kerr

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00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: jumped the line. He was a broadcaster, he also worked

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Speaker 2: in the front office. Mark Jackson, did he jump the line?

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Speaker 2: Robin Ventura? Did he jump the line? Right? It happens.

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Speaker 2: It happens a lot. But there's only one Dion, So

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Speaker 2: this doesn't pave the way for other black coaches. It

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Speaker 2: paves the way for other players who had star power.

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Speaker 2: Could the Jets entertain the idea of trading for Andrew Luck?

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Speaker 2: Mike Florio has that story for you coming up next

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Speaker 2: hour Dan Patrick's show. One more item is we closed

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