1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Everybody is Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Welcome into the shop. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Hey Alex, Hey Bill, how are you good? I've been 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: with you all morning? Whats been with you all morning? 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: I know? Then your morning should be fabulous. It is 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: you're looking for anything? 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: Oh? 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Thank you? I appreciate that. Are you looking anything in 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: particular today? Are you just hanging around? I'm just in 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: the shop. 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm still looking for a wife. But I don't think 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: I want to say that every I don't think I 13 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: want to say that every week. It could get weird 14 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: for people. 15 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Okay, here's a p s A for any of you 16 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: single ladies out there. There's an available, attractive, hard working, kind, 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Catholic gentleman with beautiful children looking for a long, meaningful relationship. 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: So there, how's that. 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: That's good? Thanks Bill? 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Anytime? Uh, Today we're gonna oh, ironically, we're going to 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: talk about positivity today. Oh yeah, yeah, in the shop 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: today we're going to talk about positivity. And here's why. 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Jim Victor from Boise, Idaho sent this The importance of 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: positivity in a world where it seems to be difficult 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: to find. Sometimes I manage a team where negativity can 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: dominate a couple of members, and I see that negativity 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: out of a couple of members the impact it can 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: make on everybody they work with. I never want to 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: be I never want anyone to be fake in regard 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: to how they feel. But we also have much to 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: be thankful for and be positive about, and that can 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: be motivating and inspiring. And thank you Jim. When I 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: read that, I thought about today and the visit us 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: and the negativity and the fear that comes from it, 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: and I thought it'd be a good idea to discuss 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: some shop talk and draw some inspiration from eighteen ninety five. 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: So we'll get to that right after these brief messages 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: from our general sponsors, everybody shop Talk number forty five, 39 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: welcome back. The importance of positivity. Jim Victor from Boise, 40 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: Idaho reached out and said, enjoy your podcast. It's inspiring. 41 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: Had a couple ideas for shop talk that I was 42 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: wondering if you're considered, and the first one was this 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: one I read before the break about the importance of positivity, 44 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: and you're right, you don't. Nobody likes the fake positive 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: people that always come in with sunshine shooting out their 46 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: rear end and act like there's no problems in the world. 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that will great on your nerves. So, you know, 48 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: positivity needs to be refreshingly honest. And we all have problems. 49 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: So it's hard to stay positive all the time and 50 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: nobody can. But it's easy to fall into this vacuum 51 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: of negativity at work or in your family. And I 52 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: don't know, it feels like in our political world right now, 53 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: with all the divisiveness and all of the categories we 54 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: separate ourselves in, it leads to more and more negativity. 55 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: And oh, I don't know. I guess there is an 56 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: uncomfortability around so much of the unknown about what tariffs 57 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: are going to do, what the border's going to be, 58 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: and all this other stuff. And I think uncertainty leads 59 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: to negative and makes it really hard to be positive. 60 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: And so I think Jim's questions or point is really good. 61 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Could we talk about the importance of positivity in a 62 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: world that it seems difficult to find sometimes? Well, I've 63 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: been we by the way. We got this email months ago, 64 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: and I keep reading in it and I kept thinking, 65 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, how do I talk about it? It's a 66 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: great point, but you know, where does the where does 67 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: the inspiration to be positive come from? How do we 68 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: put aside negative thoughts and be positive? Nobody wants to 69 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: be the debbie down or negative Nancy that brings everybody 70 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: down around them, because they're always they're always in the doldrums. 71 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 1: But there's a poem by English poet Rudyard Kipling written 72 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: around eighteen ninety as a tribute to a British politician, 73 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: Star Jamison, and I just wanted to read it. If 74 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: you can keep your head when all about you are 75 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: losing theirs and blaming it on you. If you can 76 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: trust when all men doubt you, but make allowance for 77 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: their doubting too. If you can wait and not be 78 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: tired of waiting or being led about. Don't deal in 79 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: lies or being hated, don't give way to the hating, 80 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: and yet don't look too good nor talk too wise. 81 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: If you can dream and not make dreams your master. 82 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: If you can think and not make thoughts your aim. 83 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: If you can meet with triumph and disaster and treat 84 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: those two impostors just the same. If you can bear 85 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: to hear the truth you've spoken twisted by knaves to 86 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: make a trap for fools, or watch the things you 87 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: gave your life to broken, and stop and build them 88 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: up with worn out tools. 89 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: Stoop what stoop? 90 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: Stoop, oh, and stoop and build them up with worn 91 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: out tools. If you can make one heap of all 92 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: your winnings and risk it on one turn of pitch 93 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and toss and lose, and start again at your beginnings, 94 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: and never breathe a word about your loss. If you 95 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: can force your heart and nerve and sinew to serve 96 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: your turn long after they are gone, and so hold 97 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: on when there's nothing in you except the will which 98 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: says to them, hold on. If you can talk with 99 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: crowds and keep your virtue, or walk with kings, nor 100 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: lose the common touch. If neither foes nor loving friends 101 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: can hurt you, If all men count with you, but 102 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: none too much. If you can fill the unforgiving minute 103 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: with sixty seven worth of sixty seconds worth of distance, 104 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: run yours is the earth and everything that's in it, 105 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: and which is more, you'll be a man. My son 106 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Rudyard Kipling. 107 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: Wrote that the title of the poem is if I 108 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: was about to say. 109 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: Rudyard Kipling wrote that poem around eighteen ninety five and 110 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: it's called if and it's a tribute to a British politician. 111 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: It's basically, if you can do these things, then you 112 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: will be inspirational and you will be successful. But it's 113 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: also basically saying, this is what this politician was able 114 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: to do, which is keep your head when everybody's losing theirs. 115 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: You can be trustworthy even when people doubt you, but 116 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: make allowance for their doubting. You don't lie even though 117 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: you deal in law. You don't hate, and you don't 118 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: give way to hating. It's all about being positive. It's 119 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: all about meeting the challenge of the day, always relying 120 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: on the fundamentals of your character and your value and 121 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: your word, and not being overcome by the challenges of 122 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: the day, not being overcome by the negativity of the 123 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: challenge of the day, and staying positive. And the way 124 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: you stay positive is that you have this basis, this 125 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: foundation of character, honesty, integrity, hard work and grace. And 126 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: if you have the courage to set aside the times 127 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: that are negative, and set aside the impulses that are 128 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: negative and remain positive based on those fundamentals, then you 129 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: can change the world. So that's what Rodgrier Kipling has 130 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: to say about staying positive in his poem If, written 131 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: around eighteen ninety five. So back to Jim Victor the 132 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: importance of positivity in a world where it seems to 133 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: be difficult to find. Sometimes a manager team where negativity 134 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: can dominate from a couple members, when I see an 135 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: impact it can make on the whole team. I never 136 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: want anybody to be fake in regard to how they feel, 137 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: but also have much to be thankful for and be 138 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: positive about that can be motivating and inspiring. What do 139 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: you say about that, Bill, Here's what I say. If, 140 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: in the words of Rodger Kipling, if we can always 141 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: remember that the sun's going to come up tomorrow, there's 142 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: air in our lungs, If we can understand that there 143 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: are all kinds of challenges in the day. But if 144 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: we can always remember that we have to build our 145 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: own personal foundation on character, commitment, integrity, honesty and grace. 146 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: And if we can forgive those failed, fallen folks that 147 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: surround us, that make mistakes and not get negative admired 148 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: in a bunch of tit for tat. But if we 149 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: can show grace, if we can show hard work, if 150 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: we can show a foundation of commitment and character and integrity, 151 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: and if we want to rise above it in a 152 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: positive way to counteract in advectivity that can surround us. 153 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: We can inspire those who are mired in negative situations 154 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: maybe to follow that kind of lead. It's a big if. 155 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: The question for shop talk is in the words of 156 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: Rotord Kipling in eighteen ninety five, yours is the earth 157 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: and everything that's in it. And which is more, you'll 158 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: be a man, my son. Now there's men and women. 159 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: This is eighteen ninety five conversation. But the point is, 160 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: if you're willing to do the things that you need 161 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: to do to stay positive in terms of your foundation 162 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: and your character and your word and your grace, then 163 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: yours is the earth and everything that's in it, and 164 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: this will make you positive in the face of negativity 165 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: and therefore inspire those around you to also be positive 166 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: and make great change in the world. So, mister Victor, 167 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: thanks for bringing that to us. It's interesting that we 168 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: were able to weave an eighteen ninety five pullem into this, 169 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: but honestly, I've read this email over and over again 170 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: and didn't know how to respond to a Alex showed 171 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: me this poem and then I thought, well, that's how 172 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: we do it. 173 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: Let me give a shout out for the poem. Do it? 174 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: And you where the poem came from? Where? So you've 175 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: met them my friends in Oxford, Blake and Sierrah Cannon. Yeah, 176 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: and they're are people. No, he's a real estate agent. 177 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: Real state age, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 178 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the king of real estate in Oxford, the 179 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: king of real estate. Their son Noah. And I'm a 180 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: shamed of forgetting his exact age, but he's probably ten 181 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: to twelve years old. Somewhere in there. He just remembered 182 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: that entire poem. You're kidding, you know, I'm super impressed 183 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: by him. I mean you he can. 184 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: Recite that Yeah, how long that is? 185 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. 186 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so what he recited to you one day 187 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: or something. 188 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: Mom was just telling me, Sarah, just. 189 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: So then you looked the poem up. 190 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I know that poem 191 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: and it's beautiful. It's like, man, this would be a 192 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: great shop talk. 193 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: That's fantastic and it fits great with positivity because the 194 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: truth is, if you can do all of these things 195 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: in this poem written by Rudlill Kipling. Then the negative 196 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: won't consume you, and you can inspire positivity in our world. 197 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. 198 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a good challenge for all of our kids. 199 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: I kind of want my kids to remember this, and 200 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: it's a good challenge for all of us. Yeah. I 201 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: feel like I'm my brain too old. I can't remember 202 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: stuff that long anymore. 203 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: So Chap top number forty five guys, brought to you 204 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: by Jim Victor, a listener from Boise, Idaho. If you're 205 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: willing to do the things you need to do, you 206 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: can overcome negativity. You can walk your life with positivity 207 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: inspire others to do so. And if you do that, 208 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: we got a chance for an army and normal folks 209 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: staying positive and making amazing change in our world. Jim, 210 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: thanks for reaching out. I hope you are pleased with 211 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: our response to your email, And for those of you listening, guys, 212 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: email me anytime at Bill at normal Folks dot us. 213 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: And if you send me an email, even if it 214 00:13:54,280 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: takes me months to respond, I will. And if your 215 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: ideas or something I think we can add something to 216 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: I may not come to it immediately, but Eventually something 217 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: will will smart and we'll try to bring it up 218 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: on shop Talk. What else do you want these people 219 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: to do? 220 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: Alex, go to normal folks dot us. Yep, Join the Army, 221 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: become a premium member, subscribe to the podcast. Ready to 222 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: review it? Yeah, ser on social Yeah, all the things 223 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: that will help us grow in an army of normal folks. 224 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. That's chop Talk number forty five. We'll see you 225 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: next week.