WEBVTT - The Sweepstakes Scammers w/ Tone Bell (Fraud Friday)

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<v Speaker 1>What's popping Congregation is your girl? Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release

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<v Speaker 2>older episodes from the Scam Goddess vault. That's right, Fraud

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<v Speaker 2>Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>From behind the paywall.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always,

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<v Speaker 1>stay scheming.

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<v Speaker 4>Scam, come.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, fro.

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<v Speaker 3>Scam come.

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<v Speaker 4>Right from.

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<v Speaker 3>Goddess.

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<v Speaker 1>What's popping Congregation, it's your girl. Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another episode of Scam Goddess. The podcast

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<v Speaker 1>all about robbery, fraud, and those who practices. Sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>love them, sometimes we ate them. We'll see along the way. Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all know what I am. You know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very yes excited, elateen for today.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what's a get y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>Today we have an amazing stand up comedian, actor and

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<v Speaker 1>the host of Netflix Drink Masters. Check out his first

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<v Speaker 1>action movie check Her Warning, coming out soon on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 3>Congregation. Please welcome Tom Bell to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, no beautiful, thank you, because they gonna hear the edituniversity,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're not even gonna.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, well done, well done. Now that takes one was

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<v Speaker 5>beautiful turn.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this, but we've run

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<v Speaker 1>into each other a couple of times, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Erica and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't remember her husband name right now, but he bawled anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they love you and told me about you years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, don't even try.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, don't get and don't get me

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<v Speaker 5>in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Vegas with my mom my dad, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like a part of the friend group, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I was literally at cabanas and bottle service with my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and my dad.

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<v Speaker 5>It was I mean, first of all, that's pretty dope,

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<v Speaker 5>Like my mom would kick it like that. My dad

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<v Speaker 5>would be like, it is loud out here, and I

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<v Speaker 5>mean also he kind of a creek now he don't

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<v Speaker 5>know he's not staring.

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<v Speaker 3>I was wondering where you were going with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, you do get to a certain age where

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<v Speaker 1>you just you get the freedom to just stare at people,

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<v Speaker 1>Like old people, they will stare at you and then

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<v Speaker 1>you look at them in they eye and they'll be like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still staring.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you ever noticed them dudes?

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<v Speaker 5>Like I would see it occasionally because like I would

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<v Speaker 5>see them old dudes when like the remember the watches

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<v Speaker 5>you just have the cameras on them, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I'm talking about, Like like five years ago they hit

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<v Speaker 5>like the smart watch with the camera on it, and

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<v Speaker 5>so you see a bunch of dudes like over sixty

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<v Speaker 5>just like acting like they're looking for something, but they

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<v Speaker 5>just doing like eyes up.

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<v Speaker 4>And then.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, my god, oh man, I see it all

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<v Speaker 5>the time. It's like, bro, bro, you gotta get cleaner

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<v Speaker 5>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like some technology people were just like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to make people think this is different

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<v Speaker 1>with a camera, because that's what you need on your watch.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't nobody need that? Don't nobody need a camera on

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<v Speaker 4>the watch? James Bonds, Right, I ain't back.

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<v Speaker 1>No PI for the for that rest, Like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing? I don't need those spy kids ask technology

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<v Speaker 1>on my watch? Just tail time, maybe some texts.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. No, that's so funny. So tone.

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<v Speaker 1>On this podcast, we always ask our guests what's your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with scams?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you love them?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever run some scams that are outside of statute

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<v Speaker 1>of limitations.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Hated when it happens to me, love it when it's

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<v Speaker 5>a low level crime and people get away with it.

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<v Speaker 5>And yes, I used to have a in my former

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<v Speaker 5>life decades ago. I uh, you know, I had some

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<v Speaker 5>things going. I mean I would call it being a

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<v Speaker 5>thief feeling. But uh but yeah, I'm a different person

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<v Speaker 5>now and now I have things to lose, so I

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<v Speaker 5>don't take from anyone else. But yeah, I used to

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<v Speaker 5>get away with some stuff back in the day. And

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<v Speaker 5>then I have been scammed. Yes, I have been scammed.

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<v Speaker 5>Well I won't say scam, but I have almost fallen

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<v Speaker 5>for something that I thought was that definitely wasn't scam.

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<v Speaker 4>Scoop.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, what was it?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 5>Some check out dated back in college. Out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 5>it hit me saying she was in Africa and she

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<v Speaker 5>needed me to Western Union of some money. And I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't know this thing was going around. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 5>when I was going around back in the day of like, ye, like,

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<v Speaker 5>I need two thousand dollars because I can't get my

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<v Speaker 5>flight back, so can you Western Union me the money?

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like I said, oh ship, Vicky's in

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<v Speaker 4>trouble and she's gonna called me a year, so I

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<v Speaker 4>know it's got to be I mean, and I I'm

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<v Speaker 4>out here calling Western Union, like, yo, I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>it in cash, but I can take this credit card

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good for and it like we don't, sir, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't do credit and who is this for? And I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, y'all don't have this number, and they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not attaching no VICKI. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>so then I just hit on like Facebook. I think

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook was still popping at the time. Facebook, and it

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<v Speaker 4>might have been my Space.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you must have been a batting.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't even with Vicky anymore, and you're on the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>like Liam Neeson from taking trying to save.

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<v Speaker 3>Her from Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a very much general Africa.

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<v Speaker 4>Africa was no country, no city.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yo, we gotta got no continent.

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<v Speaker 5>We got a fine VICKI, y'all. But we had a

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<v Speaker 5>very mature operation from how things dissolved in college.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>See, y'all, y'all have to have amical breakups so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can call up your ex and be like, I

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<v Speaker 1>need two thousand dollars to get out of General Africa.

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<v Speaker 5>And then and I was like, after we talked, and

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<v Speaker 5>she was like, no, I'm in Houston. What you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>It was it was so I don't fall for that

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<v Speaker 5>ship no more. But you got to send me. You

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<v Speaker 5>want to get money from me, you have to send

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<v Speaker 5>me a bill. I need to know where it came from.

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<v Speaker 5>I need to see the bill. That's how I send money.

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<v Speaker 4>Now if I'm I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>What Now did they contact you through email? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>a text message?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>How did the skimmer pretending email?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I had the logo, they had their email, they

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<v Speaker 5>had the logo and all that, the logo, the Western

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<v Speaker 5>Union logo.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't know you could PayPal requests on Western Union,

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<v Speaker 1>like to send people a link. That's different. Also very

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<v Speaker 1>funny to be told that you were gonna put her

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<v Speaker 1>life saving on credit. You were like, yeah, between four cards.

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<v Speaker 4>What I was going through. I was like, I ain't

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<v Speaker 4>got it, but I can get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you're a good friend.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a great friend. I'm a great friend.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get an email from my email just saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stuck in General Africa, you know, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you got money, so go ahead. In the

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<v Speaker 3>Senatic cash.

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<v Speaker 5>General Africa is so funny, by the way, not even

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<v Speaker 5>a coach they did have a coach in it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not a zip code, not nothing. How what airport

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<v Speaker 1>are you flying out of? Sins bro Bro I was,

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<v Speaker 1>and flight's changed depending on what airport you're at. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just in General Africa, like it's different to

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<v Speaker 1>fly from Egypt than it is to fly from South Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 5>I never thought about it to just now, but like,

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<v Speaker 5>she must have been good to me because there's some

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<v Speaker 5>other people that could have called him to Like.

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<v Speaker 4>She's just gonna have to be in Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>She's gonna have to stay in whatever country she.

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<v Speaker 4>Had to just stay in Africa. Ain't it didn't go

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<v Speaker 4>well the first time? Why would I bring her back?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, it's probably good for me that she's not

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<v Speaker 3>in the country no more.

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<v Speaker 1>This is probably she could get a job over there

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<v Speaker 1>and play of thriving countries in Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>She're gonna do well.

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<v Speaker 4>I would answer to collect car from big but let

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<v Speaker 4>that go to Voice Metal.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, you would have you would have kept the

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<v Speaker 1>LaToya in the Friday night booking so over.

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<v Speaker 4>The weekend she was a talker. She'd got out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that for both of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Scam go.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's time for What's Hot and frid This is

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<v Speaker 1>where we warn our listeners about popping scams and the zeitgeist.

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<v Speaker 1>More often than not these days, we get a little

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<v Speaker 1>letter from you all as always snitch on your friends,

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<v Speaker 1>your family, LaToya, your enemies at scam got his pot

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<v Speaker 1>at gmail dot com. Just make sure the scams retired.

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<v Speaker 1>So retired so we don't what yes, suck up your bag? Amen,

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<v Speaker 1>So Tom, I need a fake.

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<v Speaker 3>Name from you. We don't care about gender. It could

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<v Speaker 3>be anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Lazarus, Samuels, Lazarus now.

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<v Speaker 3>From the butt love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, he don't get love. Last Last Samuels.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Lazarus wasn't a great due Last Last.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Lazarus.

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<v Speaker 4>Last Simpson. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Simpson. That's fairy.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't understand show, Okay, Last Simpson. Doesn't he sound

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<v Speaker 5>like he's sounds like somebody will pick your pocket, but

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<v Speaker 5>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Last sounds sketchy as hell. I don't think if I

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<v Speaker 1>ever met a Last Simpson that I would you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do any business engagements with them. It's just like the

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<v Speaker 1>name Matthew, like every matt is a scam, Like y'all

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<v Speaker 1>not getting me.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't trust no Matthews.

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<v Speaker 3>Too many of y'all. Too many of y'all.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like Last Simpson. Somebody who say last and

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<v Speaker 5>then say his whole name, last, Last Simpson.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost gives me sportscaster, like a retired football player,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have Last Simpson hall the field.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been a lot of time since we've seen Last Simpson.

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<v Speaker 1>Loved this for us. That reminds me of Best Man Holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only reason I bring this up is have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>The TV show? Oh no, we're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>About the what's it called The Best Best Man? But

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<v Speaker 1>it's TV show. I don't know the name, but they

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<v Speaker 1>had they have More Chestnuts forty five year old self

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<v Speaker 1>returning to the NFL as a ruck and everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>like what man?

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<v Speaker 5>Enough people to talk about that, because I definitely have

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<v Speaker 5>not watched it as on my cue, but yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 5>that should have been trended.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not see that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a plot.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold Like, come on, now, he could maybe come back

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<v Speaker 1>as a quarterback, like try to do a Tom Britten.

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<v Speaker 4>No, forty five.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't do nothing at forty five. You leave not

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<v Speaker 5>off that long. You gotta be you gotta come right back.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta come right right.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to come back as a water boy.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean training in the summer, being like I think

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<v Speaker 5>I changed my mind. That's not taking six eight seasons

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<v Speaker 5>a decade off and then coming back and be like

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<v Speaker 5>I still.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it, and they trying to make it like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>he looks great out there, and look, this is not ages. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just what happens to your body, and you

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<v Speaker 1>definitely can't go back to the NFL at forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very confusion, but we just let it rock, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because nostalgia.

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<v Speaker 3>It was tasty.

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<v Speaker 1>So last Simpson says, I'm a wedding photographer in Utica,

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Last week I received a message from a

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<v Speaker 1>bride whose wedding I second shot last summer, meaning I

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<v Speaker 1>worked freelance for another photographer. The photographer who the primary

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<v Speaker 1>photographer or photography vendor for this woman is refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>give her her wedding photos.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I picked this because I've heard of fake wedding photographers

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<v Speaker 1>who are like yeah, yeah, I'm gonna shoot you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, give me my.

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<v Speaker 1>Deposit, and then I'm gonna pull up on your special

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<v Speaker 1>day and I'm gonna flick it up. We're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>photos of everything, your your something, borrow your something new,

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<v Speaker 1>your something blue. Hell, we get your toes, we get

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<v Speaker 1>your ankle bracelet, like whatever you're want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then they just don't come.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, didn't even show up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Like that's the normal scam that I've heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've never heard of somebody coming to the wedding

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<v Speaker 1>taking all the photos and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then be like you can't have them.

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<v Speaker 4>See I have heard that, though you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you berried?

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<v Speaker 4>No? Oh, I've seen that twice. Like, never got the

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<v Speaker 4>photos showed up. Eight, definitely eight.

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<v Speaker 5>They had a meal, dance, open bar, drink, no photos,

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<v Speaker 5>no photos been there for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I would know I wasn't getting photos

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<v Speaker 1>if the wedding photographer is over here having a full plate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a fish or a chicken option and they're

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<v Speaker 1>drinking at the bar.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro you are at work, You're supposed to be taking

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<v Speaker 3>photos of people. What you mean you over here?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me get three shots of cosme goes. You are

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding photographer.

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<v Speaker 5>Just wearing three cameras but not shooting none of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in got you see the wedding photographer doing the

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<v Speaker 1>electric slide, bro, you're supposed to be taking pictures of that.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>You got a piece of a sparragus, He got a

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<v Speaker 5>spear in one hand and then he just like got

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<v Speaker 5>you got him right.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not want to see the wedding photographer at

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<v Speaker 1>the bouquet toss like, let me get I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get married next. You're not gonna be a part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>You aren't supposed to be on the periphery. We shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>really noticed you. You should be taking photos of our

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<v Speaker 1>happy moment, not you all in it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's too much, but like that's it's better now because

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<v Speaker 5>at least you know people you know got photos. If

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<v Speaker 5>somebody skimming like fifteen years ago anything that shit, then

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<v Speaker 5>you just you out of there unless you got.

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<v Speaker 4>It like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a kode actor. I love that. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know what it's called. Honestly, you gotta get divorced.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have no footage from your wedding, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna look back on when you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you let this dirty draws in the bathroom again, like

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna remin this sun and keep you

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<v Speaker 1>in love if they don't have those photos.

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<v Speaker 4>Cause you gotta have you gotta have that photo on.

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<v Speaker 5>Like even when you mad, you gotta you gotta walk

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<v Speaker 5>past it to be like this, why I'm minute, this,

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<v Speaker 5>why I'm in, this, why I'm in.

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<v Speaker 4>But remember that. But that's the thing, Like you gotta

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<v Speaker 4>before they leave.

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<v Speaker 5>You hire a photographer before they leave, Like give me

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<v Speaker 5>a copy or the raw images before you leave, before

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<v Speaker 5>you start touching up.

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<v Speaker 1>So at least I got to back up, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>you can send them to anybody to get them touched up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let this be a lesson because the weddingghy. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not the first time I heard of wedding photography scams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first time I've heard of them doing the job.

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<v Speaker 1>But then just saying you can't have it, which is wild.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like getting in an uber and like you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's right here, and they're like, now I'm gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>driving out.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to run by the house. Work man, we

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<v Speaker 4>are not going by your house.

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<v Speaker 3>We are not two seconds. I'm gonna stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>In it out because like I guess the food for

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<v Speaker 1>my kids, and then I'm gonna drop it off at

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<v Speaker 1>the house and then I'm ana swerve back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a flip a BNU to get.

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<v Speaker 4>You over there. I'll admit this.

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<v Speaker 5>I worked at a drug store in high school, and

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<v Speaker 5>me and the dude that worked the photo department had

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<v Speaker 5>a scam going.

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<v Speaker 4>Where we would do. I told you I haven't always

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<v Speaker 4>lived his life, and I love this for you. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't always.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't always live this, you know, very stable above

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<v Speaker 5>board life, you know, like especially like when you come

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<v Speaker 5>in and bring your little camera rolls right form a wedding.

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<v Speaker 5>People bringing me in, I mean they got eight, ten,

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<v Speaker 5>twenty rolls, and then so we'd already go all right,

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna print these free, will take out all the

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<v Speaker 5>dummy with all the bad ones, and then all the

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<v Speaker 5>good ones will throw in there, and it'd be like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, three four hundreds worth of photos and

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<v Speaker 5>we straight up just go look, man, come back seven

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<v Speaker 5>o'clock on Sunday. We got all your photos, Go pick

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<v Speaker 5>out some frames, bring them up here. We put a

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<v Speaker 5>whole box together, and then give us two fifty cash

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<v Speaker 5>and then you.

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<v Speaker 4>Get all the shit you want. I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's scamming big corporations. They've been scamming us.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not bad. Yeah, I don't take from the I'm robinhood.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't take from the little guys. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's we were all about in this podcast. I also

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<v Speaker 1>loved like seeing Hustleman at the twenty four hour photo.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, hey man, just seven o'clock, come back, have cash

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<v Speaker 3>be discreeted it.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it in a picture frame. Put it in the

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<v Speaker 1>picture frame right below the eight x ten with the

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<v Speaker 1>white people and a dog. Put it in there and

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<v Speaker 1>it slid it over.

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<v Speaker 4>We was out here getting catch catch because.

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<v Speaker 1>Those photos are not worth what they're charging for them anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so everybody wins, they discount.

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<v Speaker 5>That's actually when I've seen my first when I was

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<v Speaker 5>working the photo department, that's when I seen my first

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<v Speaker 5>news selfies.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's what I always thought about, and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>there is like a movie many sweet for hour photo

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, where they do develop like what

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<v Speaker 1>y'all were bowld back in the day, Like y'all wanted

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<v Speaker 1>news so bad before smartphones that you were like, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get these developed and then put them in the mail,

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<v Speaker 1>not mail newds.

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<v Speaker 3>Like y'all got stamps.

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<v Speaker 5>I made for But you'd be like you fifteen six

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<v Speaker 5>team working at the drug store, so you and then

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<v Speaker 5>when the person that come pick them up, you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 5>here you go, ma'am, ma'am, here you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, taking news on a disposable camera is hilarious to

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<v Speaker 1>me because you have no idea if you really got

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<v Speaker 1>the shot, Like if you're doing it on your cell phone,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look and be like, oh, let me turn

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<v Speaker 1>my body to the left or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you do not disposable camera, you don't even.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what you took. That's that's like waiting on the

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<v Speaker 4>real results. You like, I gotta wait five days.

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<v Speaker 3>To see if my nudes go clear, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>got to take my news to usps.

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<v Speaker 4>You got new You ever got nuds? You ever got

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<v Speaker 4>nudes in the mail?

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<v Speaker 3>I have not received any nudes in the mail?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I have not, have you, well, one out of

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<v Speaker 4>two of us has yet one out of two.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all have to do the math to figure it out

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<v Speaker 1>who it is. But so god, so were they in

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<v Speaker 1>like a regular letter?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it fed eggs? Wow?

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<v Speaker 5>With the sticky pages, with the sticky pages where you

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<v Speaker 5>put them. It was captioned with like a written caption caption.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a coffee table book.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it was straight up blue.

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<v Speaker 5>It was blue with the gold trim and it was

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<v Speaker 5>it was like you could flip through and went from uh,

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<v Speaker 5>it went from clothed to but nick wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's some intrigue to it because it's like we're

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<v Speaker 1>starting with the clothes on and then slowly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's art.

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<v Speaker 4>Very good storyteller. She was.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that for her, Love that for her. What's a dedication? Okay, right?

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<v Speaker 3>She got some star stickers in there. It was yard.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a little yard around the titties on one.

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<v Speaker 5>You bullshit, that's what it looked like. It was all

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<v Speaker 5>kinds of stuff in there. The effort was real.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to joe Anees Fabrics to send news is wild.

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<v Speaker 4>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like, wait, where do y'all keep the photo album? Okay? Great?

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<v Speaker 3>And then where is the glitter glue? Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wild. That's wild to you. You really got them

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<v Speaker 3>out here. I love that for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Life.

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<v Speaker 3>This my moldment listen delivered, delivered. We all have a

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<v Speaker 3>pass and I love it. So for the primary photographer

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<v Speaker 3>was refusing to give the wedding photos.

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<v Speaker 1>After two weeks of correspondence with the bride, we found

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<v Speaker 1>that there are sixteen in all caps brides that she

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<v Speaker 1>knows that who have not received their wedding photos dating

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<v Speaker 1>back to twenty nineteen. The brides who do get their

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<v Speaker 1>photos back had to fight tooth and nail, and even

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<v Speaker 1>then only got about.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty preview shots.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were some brides who popped the trunk on

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<v Speaker 1>the photographer and were like, listen, aluminum bats are very

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<v Speaker 1>cheap online, and we come in.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta pull up. You gotta pull up on them.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to pull up on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a bridezilla, I mean, you got to brute somebody.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably had to contact somebody else who's about to

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<v Speaker 5>have a wedding, who they just hired to pull up

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<v Speaker 5>on somebody else wedding that's not at the gas station.

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<v Speaker 5>You pull up at somebody else's wet. Yes, you ruined

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<v Speaker 5>somebody with your photos.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they were probably stalking this person.

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<v Speaker 1>They go to the place of business and studio and

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<v Speaker 1>then they follow them to the game stations and when

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<v Speaker 1>they got the pump in the car, they're like, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>they sitting there with a match like, let's I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like this whole bitch on fire if you don't give

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<v Speaker 1>me my nuptial photos like that right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Was that Jar Butler movie? Were like the police wouldn't done.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's like, I'm gonna go find it myself. You

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<v Speaker 5>try to call and he's like, I'm gonna time. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna take matters into my own hands. And then you

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<v Speaker 5>just going out and you become somebody that you're not

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<v Speaker 5>even like, you don't even think you was gonna beat

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<v Speaker 5>this person.

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<v Speaker 4>You kicking down doors with my fucking photos.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody on the ground. If somebody get the USB drive

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<v Speaker 3>right now where your sim cars? Just taking all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>So last simstances.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a group with about five brides at the

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<v Speaker 1>moment and they have a similar story. The clients wait

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<v Speaker 1>the time stated in the contract before they start asking

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<v Speaker 1>for their photos, and then they start reaching out for

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<v Speaker 1>an Eta. She continues to put put it off, making

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<v Speaker 1>various excuses such as she's busy with high profile magazine shoots,

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new studio, her key, and sudden mysterious medical issues.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was like, I'm sick. Also, I'm shooting for Vogue. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I got babies, and so I can't give you your what.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a question. I got a question.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think that this person, this photographer, let's say,

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<v Speaker 5>let's let's start the beginning wedding number one. I have

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<v Speaker 5>a question about this, not the first wedding in the story,

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<v Speaker 5>but this photographer's first wedding. Do you think this person

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<v Speaker 5>happened upon a camera and was like, Ooh, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>shoot weddings right and then yeah, throughout these weddings, it

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't that they didn't have the photos, is that they

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<v Speaker 5>was all bullshit. These photos are trash, They don't know

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<v Speaker 5>how to use this camera, and lightning is bad, so

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<v Speaker 5>really you're taking the money. Yes, it's still a scam,

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<v Speaker 5>but also they just a trash assw photographer.

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<v Speaker 3>And the street that streaks all across all the photos.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody eyes rich.

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<v Speaker 4>So they just practicing from wedding to wedding until they

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<v Speaker 4>get better. Then she's gonna actually sell.

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<v Speaker 3>It's giving.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to do photoshop because blurry the

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<v Speaker 1>photographer supposed to edit the photo, so maybe they're blurry

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<v Speaker 1>out of focus.

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<v Speaker 3>And also there she can't edit them.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't. You can't practice on game night though, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. You gotta just get no.

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<v Speaker 5>You gonna have a friend put on a dress and

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<v Speaker 5>go to a park and be like, let me, let

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<v Speaker 5>me figure this out for you. But you can't be

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<v Speaker 5>practicing at my web right.

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<v Speaker 1>There's certain things that I don't want to be the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that you did it, Like I'm going into

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<v Speaker 1>surgery and you're like, this is my first one.

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<v Speaker 4>No no, no, no, no no no.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want the first time pilots. I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>a first time Dennis. I don't want a first time photographer.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's just certain things. Oh, definitely my first time Dennis.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I've been there. I still am beefing with the

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<v Speaker 1>dentists that I went to at sixteen, who I told

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<v Speaker 1>her I wasn't numb enough and then she drilled into

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<v Speaker 1>my nerve and I like, have you ever had tears

0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.800
<v Speaker 1>shoot out of your eyes involuntarily? Because that's what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I feel like Dennis star scam. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they invented rock candy because that shit looks pretty,

0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 1>but it tastes disgusting and it sucks up your teeth.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Into big rock candy and I'm not fucking with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry to the dds is out there. I found me

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<v Speaker 1>a good one finally, but I had one that scammed me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then even okay, he's I don't know if I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this on the podcast, but I need to was it?

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<v Speaker 3>So this is a different gennist. But the other one

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<v Speaker 3>was in my molar.

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<v Speaker 1>But this I had a lot of bad Dinnis experience,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one I went to his office and he

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<v Speaker 1>had but let's sea goa pillows. He was playing bad

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<v Speaker 1>Bunny on the TV screen because I only go to

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<v Speaker 1>Dnnis in expensive areas because I'm like, you gotta make rent,

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<v Speaker 1>which means you can't fuck me up.

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<v Speaker 3>So you gotta be a good dentnist.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody that has sales, no discounts, no christ charge me extra.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>No two for one root canal, no no no, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't get one free moler, no no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>He was so mean to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember he was like, oh my god, your teeth

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<v Speaker 1>are is such a bad shape and dah dah da dah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I had waded through the pandemic because like, okay,

0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a pandemic. Like the last person, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go someplace where y'all going to be in my mouth

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<v Speaker 1>like breathing the covid into my tonsils.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would I do that? Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I went, I had like some cavities and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, wow, this is like he was just

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<v Speaker 1>talking to the highgenders and I'm like, nigga, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like, oh, this is so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And even the way he pulled my tooth, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to have another tooth, my wizard teeth. I still had them,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had to get him pulled. He pulled one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And why did this man brace himself? He

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<v Speaker 1>put one foot on the chair and then like was

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<v Speaker 1>yanking real hard. And I was like, oh, I'm at

0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a prison dentist. And I thought because of the bilisia

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<v Speaker 1>capillos and the bad buddy on the flat screen and

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<v Speaker 1>all white, that I was at a fancy dentist.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me why this man died.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had already moved on to another dentist, but

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<v Speaker 1>this was a few months after I moved on from him.

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<v Speaker 1>He died and I got an email saying like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he died but also y'all could keep y'all appointments because

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna keep the dentistry place open, because that's what.

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<v Speaker 4>He would have wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>This man was not sick. He died suddenly. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you mean that's what he would have wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, to put all that in one email, like you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't give us one email other was like y'all terrible news,

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<v Speaker 1>he died.

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<v Speaker 3>And then another one like y'all can keep your appointments.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like a blurb like okay, so he died,

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<v Speaker 1>but hold on, y'all still coming for y'all cleaning.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, excuse me, you can pay your respects

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<v Speaker 5>by keeping your appointment and showing up Tuesday to fifteenth

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<v Speaker 5>when you said you was gonna be here.

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<v Speaker 4>Your copain is the same. We'll see y'all there. R Ip.

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<v Speaker 3>Sign an email. Now you can honor him by still

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<v Speaker 3>coming to your appointments. Okay, that's what they were saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, this is insane, yo, it's crazy. I've

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<v Speaker 4>never met anybody else.

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<v Speaker 5>I never met anybody else who had that same experience

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<v Speaker 5>because that shit happened to me years ago, to one

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<v Speaker 5>of my dads.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad's an engineer.

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<v Speaker 5>One of my dad's clients, I didn't have deal assurance

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:49.960
<v Speaker 5>at the time, so one of my dad's clients was like,

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<v Speaker 5>all I got him. I hook him up just telling

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<v Speaker 5>him bring like eighty dollars cash. This dude numbed the tooth,

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<v Speaker 5>the wrong tooth and started cutting a different tooth. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 5>so now he's slicing. And I had like an impact

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<v Speaker 5>tooth or mole or whatever it's called. And same thing

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<v Speaker 5>when you said the leg, I felt that I refelt

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 5>that leg because he threw that leg up like Lisa

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<v Speaker 5>from Temecula and thats and l skirt put it on

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<v Speaker 5>the chair, and I mean he get I mean he

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:15.680
<v Speaker 5>getting in there. I mean he just like trying to

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<v Speaker 5>crack it. And I'm like, I don't think you a dentist.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you were moved, but I don't think you

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<v Speaker 5>a dentist.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that supposed to go like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they just been giving anybody a dds.

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<v Speaker 1>Because then when I went back to my good dentist,

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<v Speaker 1>because I lost him, I didn't know where he was

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, and when I went back to him,

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<v Speaker 1>I had just another story and care to all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they I had to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Another wisdom tooth pulled.

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<v Speaker 1>They numbed me, they did some little thing and like

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<v Speaker 1>when I tell you, it was just like the easiest,

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<v Speaker 1>like painless, no bracing yourself procedure. And I told him,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, I thought y'all was gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to put the leg on the chair and yank it.

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>And the dentists looked at me horrified, and I was like, yeah,

0:24:58.119 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 1>that's what so and so did. And I guess the

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>dental girls each other in that neighborhood. And he made

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<v Speaker 1>this face like, oh yeah, Kabily.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you know that Din's used to be a

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<v Speaker 4>wedding photographer. You like what truly?

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<v Speaker 3>Truly?

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<v Speaker 1>So to end this so we could get onto historic

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:19.400
<v Speaker 1>hoods last, Simpson says, these brides have seen it all.

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<v Speaker 1>The photographer has called one bride's screaming in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the night, called her new in laws who have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with the negotiations, and made threat after

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>threat after threat. She states that she's going to archive

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>photos and refund them. However, none of the brides have

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>received a refund. To add insult to injury, this photographer

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>post herself daily dancing around in lingerie in her new studio,

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 1>bragging about all the new clients she's taking on. One

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<v Speaker 1>bride states that she now lives in fear of the

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>woman her dad has potentially cancerous tumored. All she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do is share the wedding photos of him walking

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<v Speaker 1>down the aisle.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no oh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then not only is this photographer receiving a minimum

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<v Speaker 1>of three thousand dollars from each of the brides and

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<v Speaker 1>not delivering the photos, but she's also robbing them of

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<v Speaker 1>their precious memories that are to hold on happiness their

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<v Speaker 1>entire lives and turning it into a living nightmare.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I damn, damn.

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<v Speaker 1>You hit me at the end last, because memories are

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<v Speaker 1>important to people, and to take away people's memories, especially

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:17.719
<v Speaker 1>ones like that where you don't know how much time

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 1>you have left with the person sick as fuck. Also,

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you calling people and threatening them, you being depot about

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<v Speaker 1>photos that they paid for, and then.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta watch you online enjoy yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really the lick. That's what that's like, you that tiktoks.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't look if I lend you money, I better

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<v Speaker 4>not see you on vacation honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>If I lend you money, I better not see you

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<v Speaker 1>at Starbucks buying the coffee. I'm like, Oh, you got

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<v Speaker 1>money for for a flat white, but you can't pay

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<v Speaker 1>it back?

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<v Speaker 4>What much?

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<v Speaker 5>If I see you, you better have made that yourself.

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 5>You better you made that yourself. I know nothing that

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<v Speaker 5>came with a receipt that you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Turn an oven on for that. Shit better be homemade.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn my it is and are Also you need

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<v Speaker 1>to really cosplay as like the most down bad. I

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<v Speaker 1>better not see you in a cute fit. You better

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>wear burr lap sacks on the ground until you pay

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 1>me back. Okay, you better look like a nineteen twenties

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<v Speaker 1>pickpocket for real until I give my money back for Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 4>Man last getting me too? I am. I am upset.

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<v Speaker 4>I am I am not happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see you at no restaurants, not

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<v Speaker 1>even Applebee's, not even for the two for twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you don't have twenty two till you pay me back.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm running to you, you you better have a

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<v Speaker 4>camera with you and a laptop.

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<v Speaker 5>You better be editing. I'm so far behind. I'm so

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<v Speaker 5>far behind, girl. I got you as soon as I can.

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 5>I will as soon as I can get to you,

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 5>I will like you better be. You better be stressed.

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<v Speaker 5>Baby on one arm, laptop camera slung around. I mean,

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 5>you better be typing. You gotta you got an old

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<v Speaker 5>school mouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, you better be constantly sweating.

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, down bad, I'm hot.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is you know, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to bet your photographers. I know, wedding, wedding.

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 1>When you put wedding on anything, it's a scam. We

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>said that a million times on this podcast. Y'all better

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>telling me, y'all having a love party and and so

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you can get the price down. But bet your photographers.

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>If you find a photographer you like, go online, see

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>if they have go on Facebook, search their name on

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the internet. Make sure that they Because the girls will

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>talk when they've been wrong, So Twitter, Facebook, Instagram.

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, girls will talk when they have been wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Just then.

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<v Speaker 5>That applies for a lot, not just wedding photography. But

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 5>go ahead, oh men too, I mean, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sometimes have you seen all these podcasts with the

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>men and I don't even think they were wrong. We

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>need to stop selling Mike's to sis gend admit until

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>we figure out what the hell is going on? Because

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>y'all don't need microphones. Tone you good, but it's a

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of it's a lot of your counterparts, aquitter.

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 4>I've gotten better. I've gotten If you.

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Say females on the regular, you do not need podcasting.

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<v Speaker 4>Question that's difficult, and that's the question I'm from a

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 4>question at the store.

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 5>It took me a long time to stop saying female

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 5>because I'm from Atlanta and that's just how we talk.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've gotten better, and I love that for you.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't scam. You don't say females. What a glow up?

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<v Speaker 4>I thank you. We're my goal star, go star for market.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes by.

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<v Speaker 1>Run and we are back for historic hootwings. My favorite

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>part of the podcast. I will regale tone with a

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>famous concaper group of criminals.

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 3>We don't know yet.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>We're going to see you just like you. I do

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>have a note at the top because you don't. We

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>don't scam journalists. This story is primarily research from Jeff

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Mashaw's New York article Donald Trump and the sweep Steak Scammers.

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Content warning, there is a mention of substance abuse. All right,

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>so we're going back to the eighties, which that makes

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>sense for a mention of substance abuse because apparently everyone

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>was on cocaine. So in the nineteen eighties, sweet sticks,

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy right before we start putting ventanol in it.

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 4>To this day, I can't try it. If I was

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 4>grown an eighties I might have get given it a shot.

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite jokes in Black Monday wish I

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>waited too long to watch shout out to Yost Leicester. Yes,

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>nobody comes into the office. It's all about like Wall

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Street people, which are notorious for doing cocaine. To this day,

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>someone comes in office who does the drug dealing and

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>he's like.

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Hey, y'all, I got a new drug.

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>It's called crack and everyone was like, oh that sounds dope.

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Limp two cracks please, So.

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<v Speaker 4>New people don't know how to order yet.

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>No, because on the streets, and when you think about it,

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the risk you're taking with every drug never taken before.

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, people are like, oh I popped them ally

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but like, yeah, you would be like two cracks.

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 5>I got a story that probably should tell this podcast. Well,

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 5>i'll tell you afterwards. Oh my god, okay, and every day, oh.

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>So, in the nineteen eighties, sweepstakes were the craze and

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>almost every major company and they all participated in them

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>thousands interered competitions, hoping to win fabulous prizes. But unbeknownst

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>to all but a few, these competitions were impossible to

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>win thanks to the CD man that made them. Ooh,

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>so this brings me back to one of our first scams,

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>the McDonald's scam, where Homie was just stealing all the

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>game piece.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I watched that one, okay, so who.

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't love macmillions just because it was such coppaganda.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I want to see, you know, more

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of Homie, Like I don't want to see y'all be

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and like we went through his trash, Like I want

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to see what he was doing with the money. So,

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>during the nineteen sixties, when Chuck Sideman was a teenager,

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>his father, Jack Sideman, ran his own promotions.

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Business in Philadelphia.

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Philly, Yes, I know the Eagles lost the Super

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Bowl MM So after finishing his service in World War Two,

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Jack developed and patent one of the first rub off

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>lottery games, using gold leaf to conceal the prize.

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 3>Underneath. Now, I love a scratch off. They calling her

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 3>rub off, but that's a scratch off.

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Off was hilarious. But yeah, they had to turn they

0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 4>had to change that name. Go ahead.

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I got scratch off of my house right now because

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that was me and my grandma's thing. We go down

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>to the corner store and get scratch offs. And I

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know every now and then I got to do it.

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So we're looking at the scratch off right now,

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the og. It's a spot of gold. Cash dividends.

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Everybody wins at the corn fair. I love this.

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I love this because it would have got me. I

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>would have picked up how much five ten, I'm gonna

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>be a millionaire?

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 3>So and I loved it.

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>On this ticket, it doesn't say how much you could

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>possibly win, because now scratches are like you could win

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>up to.

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 3>A million dollars or whatever. This just says cash dividends

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 3>to just tell you how much.

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't know what your investment could you know return,

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>They're just like money you could get.

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 5>I wish I wish they did it right now. I

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 5>could fall for like a spectrum a scratch off. I'd

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 5>go in and like have a bill paid Verizon buy

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 5>some companies. Yeah, for companies got to pay the bill

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 5>his money. I give you actually tend to see if

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 5>I can win a free month, right.

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't give them any ideas they already taken all our

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>money from us. You know, if we went into the

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Verizon at and t any of those and they were

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>like scratch off and you could win a new iPhone.

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Nobody would ever win the most you would get.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 4>It's like you.

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Got a pop socket, give us a case, you get

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>a cleaning rag. Congratulations, Now pay for that phone like

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you was meant to where my money? So his company,

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>his company spot O Gold, was one of the first

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>to create such games and soon took over the market

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>through offering rubofs and convenience stores and grocery stores. I

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>want to call them scratch offs from here on off

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>because ruboffs is giving me. It sounds nasty.

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's doing a good job for me. But go ahead,

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 4>I understand why you change it.

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Rubbed me off? No, I don't want to rub nothing.

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>So his sun truck was a serial high school dropout.

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>How are you a serial high school drop out? I

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like you drop out and then that's you dropped up,

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>so he's just coming back okay, and he was a

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>teenage drug addict. According to Adult Chuck, I was in

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>seven detoxes and none of them worked.

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 3>That evolution was to hire seven seven.

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 4>That's still a lot. That's still a lot.

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's still a lot. But I think it's kind

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of one of those things of like if you wanted

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>to do it, then it works. But if somebody ships

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you in there and you're not ready, then it's not

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna work. And that's a scam of rehabilitation centers. I

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>think they'd be hoping for repick customers.

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah. It's like it's like a gym, I hope

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 4>you get fat again.

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Not a gym.

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just like how planning fitness be serving pizza, Like

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing that? That is the intendenis of

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>why we're here. I mean, eat what you want. This

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>is not shaming like I love food. I love it's

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>not shaming it. But it's just interesting to be like,

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>oh I just got a great workout and they're like.

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, would you like to tell a lord before you leat.

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 5>What the that's how they should get you. The gym

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 5>is free, but parking is like twelve hours a day.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Love that, but it's gotta be automatically charged, because you know,

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>gym memberships are a scam. Like they used to make

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you write here like letters and mail them in to

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>try to get out of your gym membership.

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Because I still do.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 4>We're not gonna write no letter. I am not writing

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 4>an essay I'd rather pay you for.

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 3>We're not going to usps.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm not doing it.

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:13.959
<v Speaker 3>But nowadays you just got to pull up in person

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 3>like the brides.

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>You got to pull up and be like, if you

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>don't take me out of this membership, I will fight

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody in this gym. Because during COVID my gym membership,

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>they were trying to still charge and I was like, girl,

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>we can't even go over there, Like what is we doing.

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 4>We don't have antil later. No you're not.

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 3>No, you're not. They're like, we got an online app.

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 3>No that's not the same. I can go on YouTube.

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Give me my money, but we.

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 4>Got some towels. Shut up and give me my money back.

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 4>Don't give a damn you calyptus on that.

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Come on now, you don't want your signs path to.

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 4>Be cleared up? Come on now, give it. We give

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 4>it out locks for the lockers, and also.

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Gym's making like a breakup, like a romantic breakup. When

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you're like, hey, I don't want to come here anymore.

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 3>They're like why not?

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 4>What did we do?

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, bitchall said, I don't want to come

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>here no more. Let's get to the termination process. They're like, no,

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>but let's talk first, come in my office.

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 5>No, bitch, like they don't cancel stop they closure method

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 5>is trash, Like we broke up.

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 4>What it is?

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 2>What it is?

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 4>One of us ain't happy. I gotta go it. Don't

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 4>take both of us to break up. They only take one.

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 3>They're like, there's a mutual relationship.

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:24.760
<v Speaker 4>No, it's no, I didn't get quit. What these goddamns

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 4>on me?

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Come on?

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Feel how soft? We got fabric softener? Now? Stop it stop,

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 3>give it, give it to a more week. And then

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 3>we try to contact them.

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 1>We'll give you a free smoothie literally, and they know

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>they make it so arduous on purpose. So we're talking

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>about Chuck right. Chuck says he was the seventy toxes

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>so Jack his daddy. Jack's solution was to hire Chuck's

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>friend Stephen Gross to work at Spot of Gold in

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>the hopes to keep Chuck off meth.

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Okay, what some mad so yeah. So but according to Steve,

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 3>meth is one of those drugs.

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 1>And this is no shade to addicts or anybody, but

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 1>meth is one of those drugs that if somebody was like, hey,

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>come over, I got so much meth, I'd be like,

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>oh no, I'm I'm okay.

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I was at the crib or weed. Yeah, but like

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 3>if you say meth or crack, I'm like.

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 4>No, actually, I didn't know math was out that low.

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 4>So wait, hold on.

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 5>So Jack is the dad, and then Chuck is the son,

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 5>and then Steve came over to work with dad, so

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 5>the son.

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 3>To get Chuck off math. Right, Yeah, you got it.

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:36.320
<v Speaker 3>And it's still confusing, but you got it.

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 4>That's right.

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>So but according to Steven, who's the friend, that was impossible.

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Chuck was this kind of narcissistic personality. You couldn't tell

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 1>him what to do. At sixteen, Steven had already began

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to make a name for himself in the company's development department,

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 1>even successfully pitching Basket Robbins cone O Gold campaign. So

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 1>you predicted this tone, So now Basket Robbins has gotten

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:58.439
<v Speaker 1>into the like, we're gonna do scratch offs.

0:37:58.520 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Y'all come in here and maybe you'll get one of these.

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Already want flavors for free?

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 4>Boom boom. I told you to do this, you know it.

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh love, love that you're here.

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>So at the same time, Chuck discovered that he could

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of working at Spottle Gold and steal tons

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>of two dollars lottery cards normally delivered in secure trucks.

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Wow, so now he's stealing from his daddy. That's very disrespectful.

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>So Chuck won tons of cash, most of what he

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 1>spent at the Atlantic City Boardwalk, which you know used

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 1>to be popping before it died.

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 3>And then all the casinos.

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 4>What do you do with stolen money? You try to

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 4>make more stolen money.

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Flip it flip Why this sounds like a business to me. Also, normally,

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 1>will you work for a company that does sweepstakes or

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>anything like that.

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 3>You're not allowed to play cash in you ain't allowed

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 3>to play.

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>So as young adults, Stephen and Chuck parted ways, and

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Stephen went on to go to college and sell lingerie

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and later cars. Okay, Steven, go ahead, Chuck, fell deeper

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>into his addictions, to the point where a local restaurant

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to who he was indebted to for his cocaine, blackmailed

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>him into stealing a win, a gold spot of gold

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>game ticket. So a restaurant that was also selling cocaine.

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 5>You was gonna come back to this because I have

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.399
<v Speaker 5>never gone to a restaurant for cocaine. I've never gone

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 5>anywhere cocaine. Definite at a restaurant.

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 3>I worked at a restaurant that sold cocaine, and I

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 3>can't get spe because you will figure out what it is.

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 3>But the servers were selling cocaine. No, like would you

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 3>like the branzino? Also an eight ball?

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I've been at places where this happened.

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 4>I pick up what you put that. Yes.

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen eighty four, Jack paid off sixty thousand

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>dollars in drug debt for Chuck, now thirty three. So

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Jack slid in even though Chuck was trying to steal

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>these Spottle golds to pay off the coke man at

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>RB's and his daddy pulled up and paid for him.

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Chuck is thirty three at this point, but he's you know,

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 3>it's his son. He's trying to take care of him.

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>However, Chuck's continued mistakes created enough tension in the relationship

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.359
<v Speaker 1>that they got into a fistfight, which prompted A Chuck

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to break off ties with his father and get his

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 1>own sweepstake company with Steve.

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 3>So Steve is back. I was wondering what we were

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 3>talking about.

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean how I mean Steve out here,

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 4>you rather partner with a crackhead than a dude.

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:22.280
<v Speaker 3>You're so estavaged Vincy and and cars. Why are you partnering.

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 5>With dropped out of school as many times? But you

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 5>know it's the sixties, right, the eighties.

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>They named the Yeah, we've been in the eighties, So

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 1>they named the company c B. Sideman Marketing Group or CBS,

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and the hopes that the television network would sue them

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and earn them more publicity. So they intentionally did copyright

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>infringement so that they could hopefully get in the papers.

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And honestly, what an influencer move for the eighties, what

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a publicity stuff.

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm not mad at them at all of this,

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 4>I am not. I love it.

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>They said, we're going to court and we're gonna surve fits,

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna make sure the paparazzi's.

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 3>There, and we're gonna get our bag. So slowly Chuck

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 3>again stealing his father's clients one by one for himself.

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I gotta say this.

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 5>That's probably how meth started out as like Crack two,

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 5>and then Crack sued Meth because it's called Crack two,

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 5>and they're like, for Cody Bright the freshman, they like,

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 5>y'all just come up with a new name.

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 4>It's like, but Crack two is pretty good.

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 5>It's like, well, what math we met now, but now

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 5>met already on the map because they decided to come

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 5>after Crack, All right, go ahead.

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Crack is Kirkland brand, Meth, Cheerio Jaga and Circle weeks. Yes,

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 3>I kind of love it.

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>So his specialty was creating elaborate prizes, such as convincing

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a dog food company to give away luxury vacation to

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>not just one winner, but forty nine of their friends

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and family. Chuck expanded CBS by opening that seems like

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>a sweepstakes. That's too good to be true. Also, I

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think of forty nine friends and family that I

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>would want to bring on vacation, Like maybe twelve forty.

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.919
<v Speaker 4>Nine forty nine. That's not like cheap.

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Also, what an obscure number? Why not fifty?

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess you gotta go. Are you fifty? You're nod?

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 3>It's given.

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 4>Didn't nobody have fifty friends back then? No? Now?

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Chuck expanding CBS by opening arm of the

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>company to handle mail in promotions, a department run by

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>two teenagers he had met in a parking lot.

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 4>Great job, great job.

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Y'all want to make some money, Yeah we got We

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.439
<v Speaker 1>got a part time job from the parking lot.

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not taking no jobs from the parking lot.

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 4>No. But they're teens, male openers. They work.

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're working, and you know teens, like the whole

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>reason that they have a lower employment rate is so

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that you know, they can give kids like the smallest

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>amount of money so that they can buy this, you know,

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>kid ship and liability.

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 4>They get in trouble, they ain't going to prison. Fact.

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 3>So the teens were Timothy and Lewis, and they were

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:01.800
<v Speaker 3>convinced to work for pennies.

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 4>Just they sound Timothy and Lewis, They sound like home.

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 4>They do.

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Timothy and Lewis were probably in the parking lot trying

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 1>to check doors to see if any were unlocked so

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>they could steal goods at the glove compartment.

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 3>And they're like, y'all want a legit job.

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 4>There's probably stilling people mail out of their cars or something.

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 4>He was like, do I have a job for you.

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 3>That's recruitment, okay, Chuck, you lady.

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 1>So they didn't have LinkedIn, I guess, so he had

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 1>to go to the parking lot to see who was

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>down to do crimes. Now that they ran the show,

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Stephen and Chuck realized they could sneak more prices from

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 1>the sweep states by wreaking the competition and picking their

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>own winner. The first win was ten supermarket sweep tricks

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to Toys r Rusts from a Royal Desserts company. So

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like a competition from Royal Desserts, and they're like,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>if y'all bodies desserts, y'all bring these scratch offs, Like

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>y'all could win a trip to Toys r Ust, which

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess is only really appealing to parents. So at

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the time, no one seemed to be breaking any enforceable

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 1>all in order to create an appearance of well, Chuck

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and Steve, who had much better credit Steve had much

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>better credit than Chuck. They purchased three limos to ride

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to meetings, in addition a BMW and eluxury Cadillact, so

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>they were giving the vibes of rich when they pulled up.

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>They pull it up to the Burger king in a limo.

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm living with.

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 5>Steve, of course, had better credit than Chuck because Chuck,

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:23.360
<v Speaker 5>by all his shit cash.

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 4>Chuck don't make no credit purchases. Chuck all catch he

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 4>all cash.

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:32.919
<v Speaker 1>Like now, if we were talking street cred, Chuck would

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>have better credit because he's been out here with.

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 4>The mob absolutely buying his drug. He'd been alive this long.

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 4>He's good for it.

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I think street crad should be a part of

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>credit credits. Already a scam. I should be able to

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 1>get five references that I paid back to get a

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 1>home loan. I don't understand why that's not a thing.

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's not like a website we needed.

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, the new credit home me credit Street that

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 3>we need that street credit.

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yes.

0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>So at the same time, his father's business was failing,

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.919
<v Speaker 1>between the loss of clients and the introduction of scratch Off,

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>which was a patent of Jack's ruboff, which made his

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>business obsolete. Now I'm gonna say, Jack, I'm sorry. I

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 1>did not love ruboff. I wish that you had thought

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of scratch off. It's just sexier.

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 3>And I hate that somebody got up under you and

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 3>stole that from you. That's not right. They did crack

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 3>two to you.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 4>We don't like that like that.

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we hate that for us.

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, maybe Jack, he should he should

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 4>have transitioned early, but like maybe maybe you know.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 3>It's a blockbuster of scratch off.

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 5>His name is also Jack, and his product was a ruboff.

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna sit that right there. I'm just gonna leave

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 5>that right there and say he was trying to do

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 5>it together.

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 4>I just put it together, I know. And it's sticky

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 4>when you think about it. So I will move on.

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 4>I know this is not what you get in my

0:45:56.000 --> 0:46:00.800
<v Speaker 4>coffee shows, I promise you. But but for people understand

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 4>what I just said. That wasn't too bad.

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 3>That was I think we got it. Oh wow, wowzers.

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>So Jack and Chuck remained unreconciled while Jack died of

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.399
<v Speaker 1>a heart attack in May of nineteen eighty six. I'm

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.800
<v Speaker 1>sure he was so stressed because his business got stolen.

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>His son stole his business. Damn, I feel bad for Jack.

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>With his father's death, CBS took Spot of Gold and

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 1>its remaining clients. Damn, Chuck, you ain't right. By this point,

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:28.720
<v Speaker 1>the sweep stakes industry was now a billion dollar industry

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that nearly every top brand seemed to participate in.

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.760
<v Speaker 3>But with the increase of success came increase of Chuck's

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 3>substance abuse. So they're living high. He's full with Wall

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Street and it's not good. So, according to him, I

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 3>was on ten valume pills or xanax pills a day

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 3>and several tranquilizers. So he's moved on from the uppers

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 3>to very very down.

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 3>His wife Susan became so frustrated that she called it

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 3>heart named jam Yeah. You know your wives, you know,

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 3>straight man, and you don't got to be shipped to

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 3>get away.

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.839
<v Speaker 4>I mean because crag du be having chicks though, I mean,

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 4>it's just we see it. I don't even know how fast.

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>So his wife Susan became so frustrated she called this

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>hypnotist right James Parker, and hopes that he could fix

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>her husband.

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 3>James Parker.

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 1>So James has sudden hypnosis since his first witness at

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a carnival at seven years old.

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Now, carnival. If you see your profession at a carnival

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 3>and then you're trying to say it legit, I don't

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 3>know about that.

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 1>So his ultimate dream has become a famous traveling hypnotist,

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 1>which is why he almost immediately found himself in Chuck's

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:34.800
<v Speaker 1>living room, putting him in a trance.

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're getting very sleepy's giving that.

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 1>When Chuck woke up, he claimed to be cured and

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>declared that he was going to make James the most

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.279
<v Speaker 1>famous hypnotist in America. However, James had to help him

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 1>just with one favor. Poe's is the winner for the

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Trump Plaza sweep Steaks.

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 5>Time out Hypnotists. You a great hypnotist. You can't be

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 5>hypnotized and then wake up being like, guess what, I

0:47:57.680 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 5>don't do crack no more? You're not supposed to remember crack?

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 4>What kind of hit.

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Him into a crime?

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 4>Would you? You love crack? But when I wake you up,

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna be like, I don't like crack no more.

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 4>Just get cracked out of here, make it.

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 3>I hate cracked, but I love crime and you have

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 3>to help me.

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.800
<v Speaker 1>But anybody who gets a profession from a carnival and

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>it's then we already know what he's on. So it's

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:27.359
<v Speaker 1>a part of CSB Operations was creating turnkey sweep sakes

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 1>promotions for companies. They had created a campaign for one

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:34.320
<v Speaker 1>of Trump's flagship casinos, the Trump Plaza Casino and Casino.

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Why am I saying that wrong?

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.439
<v Speaker 1>In Atlantic City, Trump built a thirty million dollar parking

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 1>garage to entice more visitors. However, not enough people were

0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 1>using it, so he turned to CSB, who suggested he

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 1>print promotional parking tickets that, when collected, could win prizes.

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.359
<v Speaker 1>So now you just parking. They were like, it's plenty

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 1>of street parking, but if we do this, rub off,

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:57.760
<v Speaker 1>we might win a prize.

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:01.280
<v Speaker 4>I might strach off some free parking and other pricess

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 4>what kind of prize would be, talking.

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Jack, A prize for going to a parking garage is

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 3>wild to me. So these prizes included.

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Walkman's that was the time cash, an eternity of vacations,

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 1>not vacations till you die, till you go to the

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Upper Room, or even a Cadillac Chuck simply needed James

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to pose as the winner of the grand prize and

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.280
<v Speaker 1>sell it for cash with a kickback to the company CBS.

0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Over several days, an assistant collected enough tickets until James

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>came to claim the Cadillac Alante Convertible Grand Prize worth

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>fifty five thousand dollars, which is about one hundred and

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 1>forty thousand dollars today with inflation. So this is a hypnotist.

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:39.760
<v Speaker 1>It kind of still look a little clean. It's definitely

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>given eighties cars were so square in the eighties.

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 4>I love it.

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I rocked that right Now they're like square, looks like

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the future. So for three days after j right, it

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 1>looked even though it's not over.

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:54.359
<v Speaker 5>There about it, making it like a brick bridge, beat

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 5>fast but with a wheels with wils a brickle wheel.

0:49:58.200 --> 0:49:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's go get everybody.

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna know I got money, okay when I'm driving

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.240
<v Speaker 1>out with my rectangular vehicle.

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 4>Loved that.

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:08.399
<v Speaker 1>However, three days after James won, the nineteen eighty seven

0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:12.760
<v Speaker 1>stock market crash occurred a course also known as black Monday.

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:14.239
<v Speaker 1>That's so why because I brought up Black Man Day

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 1>earlier that TV show on Showtime it's so good y'all

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:17.239
<v Speaker 1>three seasons get into it.

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Suddenly no one wanted to buy the car.

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>They eventually sold it for half price, and James ended

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 1>up keeping four thousand dollars but was stuck with the

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:25.839
<v Speaker 1>tax bill on the entire price.

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 3>That comes back to that Oprah. You get a car,

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:28.440
<v Speaker 3>you get a car.

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 4>You get a car.

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 1>When Oprah gave out all them cars, they didn't pay

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:33.440
<v Speaker 1>the taxes for them teachers to have them cars, and

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them ended up having to sell it

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>or having to pay like seven grand in gift tax.

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 5>So actually got Poniac gt G six money at GT

0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 5>or something like that. Anyway, I can't remember.

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a Toyota.

0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 4>No, it was that. Now I don't think it was

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 4>no Toyota. I think it was a Pontiac or something

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 4>from Michigan.

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 3>That was a mean lick because they were so excited.

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 1>And then Uncle Sam was waiting right outside the door

0:50:56.800 --> 0:51:00.439
<v Speaker 1>of the studio like, hey, before you get these keys mine.

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Like the whole point is we're bro.

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 4>That's what people be like. This is too good to

0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 4>be true. And I never say stuff like that. I go, man,

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:08.479
<v Speaker 4>it's too good to be true.

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:12.359
<v Speaker 3>Right, and was yeah, yep, was alive. Still.

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:14.479
<v Speaker 1>He immediately used the money to book a plane ticket

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>to Paris for a date with an opera singer. So

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:18.439
<v Speaker 1>he's still flexing with this little bit of cash he got,

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 1>you know. So, in addition to continuing to use James

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to help him win prizes, Chuck also recruited his former cableman,

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Dandris. So somebody came and gave him some bootlet caboy.

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>He was like, hey, man, you want to make a

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:34.239
<v Speaker 1>little money on the side as well. Oh so, how

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you have the same person, How do you have James

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.800
<v Speaker 1>winning multiple prizes? Nobody saw in the newspaper and were like,

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>ain't that the same doodles?

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 5>And that's back when people read a newspaper, so they

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:44.399
<v Speaker 5>knew James was, yeah, well James is probably man, James

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 5>probably you know what, James knew the game. James go,

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:49.919
<v Speaker 5>I better win again because I got seventeen thousand DOLLARSD

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 5>taxes to pay and I ain't bring home before. So

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.879
<v Speaker 5>I'm thirteen in the whole Your boy gonna win again,

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 5>you hear me, I'm gonna call it a.

0:51:56.040 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Real advertized to him. It's like, give me another brush.

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:04.360
<v Speaker 1>So Chuck was like, yeah, cool, cool, and I'm definitely

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 1>not doing cracking one.

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.359
<v Speaker 4>I will make you. Don't think I won't.

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll take it back.

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll hypnotize you back into it. Let me say the

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>magic words. You're gonna be dawn back. Don't maybe get

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to the cup okay, whah, don't maybe get to the loss? Okay,

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 1>better better give me money. So Anthony the cableman was

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:30.359
<v Speaker 1>lured by Chuck's promises to turn him into the next

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Lee. Okay, Now what does the cableman want to

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.840
<v Speaker 1>be Bruce Lee? Okay, as he had recently opened a

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>kung fu school in Richmond, Virginia. So I love how

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>he lures these men with like I'm gonna get your

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:44.839
<v Speaker 1>school popping. He's like, we are your aspirations in life,

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 1>as he's installing the spectrum, like I want to be

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a kung fu mask?

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:49.880
<v Speaker 4>What that's how? You know?

0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 5>Like cable man, I always wearing them one piece jumpers.

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 5>We got off work, he just put the belt on

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 5>around and went straight to the karate school.

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 1>He said, right now, everybody's not kung fu fighting, but

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:04.680
<v Speaker 1>if you would like them to be, come win you

0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>sake prizes with me.

0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:08.520
<v Speaker 5>Shaking him by the hands. He was just bowing up front.

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 5>He's like, yo, man, just shake my hand and stop bowing.

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:12.759
<v Speaker 5>Why why are you doing it? Oh, I ain't tell

0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:14.560
<v Speaker 5>you I do kung fu. No, man, that's not why

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:16.359
<v Speaker 5>I invited you here. Why I'm gonna need a little

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 5>somethings the cable I was talking to James.

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 1>He was telling your cable shop. No, no, we don't

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 1>want that, we don't need that. Why is he doing

0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:29.960
<v Speaker 1>karate hands to my cable box? What is happening? So

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 1>if Anthony won the two hundred thousand dollars prize money

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>from Alpo Dog Foods, he would be allowed to keep

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:38.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty five thousand to start a national martial arts academy,

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>where Chuck kept the rest. Okay, So Chuck and Stephen

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 1>thought that they'd never get caught is there were no

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:45.360
<v Speaker 1>laws yet written about sweepstakes.

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:48.720
<v Speaker 3>However, it was one call from a once teenage employee Lewis.

0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Not Lewis coming back, It's Lewis's girlfriend to the United

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 1>States Postal Inspection Service. I have told you all about

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 1>fucking with the US mail. They will get you that

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to their downfall. So getting caught. We're wrapping it up.

0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 1>So Catherine Wojahowitz called when Lewis, which was her ex boyfriend,

0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 1>arranged for her to win an Alpo dog food sweepstakes,

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 1>and she felt something wasn't right.

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 3>So her baby was like, Oh, you're gonna win this

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Alpo sweepstakes. Why are you called the US Inspection on

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:23.439
<v Speaker 3>your man? Yeah, but he must have been a trash boy.

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:26.240
<v Speaker 5>She was supposed to win and didn't win. So because

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 5>she didn't win, she called the authority, Like, that's how

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:29.439
<v Speaker 5>everybody get caught.

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:31.920
<v Speaker 3>If somebody scoring. You can't cut people out of the

0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:32.839
<v Speaker 3>money when you're doing crime.

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 4>Hast win. We all don't win. I'm taking everybody.

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Down because now I have no liability. I didn't actually win.

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I can act like I didn't know what was going on.

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 5>Hey, him, him, him him. They told me I was

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:51.880
<v Speaker 5>gonna get twenty five thousand and then and then what happened?

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:52.760
<v Speaker 5>Her plane crash?

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Damn.

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>So, as a us pis agent, Dan it was just

0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 1>a professional hater job. Dan Smiers begin investigating the company

0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:04.880
<v Speaker 1>behind the competition. James and Chuck were running into trouble

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 1>with the winners as they ran through their roster of

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>friends of winners and quotes they called on more questionable people,

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:13.840
<v Speaker 1>which led to the posers actually winning the competition and

0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:16.640
<v Speaker 1>making off with prices before CBS could demand their cut.

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>So basically, as this inspection hater man starts to dig

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 1>into it, the winners, the fake winners are like, ooh,

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:25.359
<v Speaker 1>it's hot over here.

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Y'all get in trouble for crime.

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually gonna just win and then I'm above board

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not giving y'all cut.

0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:35.240
<v Speaker 5>You know who that is? That's them forty nine close friends.

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 5>That's exactly what that's in. Forty nine close people that

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:40.800
<v Speaker 5>you would have took on vacation with you. That's exactly

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 5>who that was. Because you go outside too far, somebody

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:45.280
<v Speaker 5>gonna end up talking. So you try to keep it close.

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:45.879
<v Speaker 4>But don't.

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 5>Can't nobody to keep their mouths because here's the thing.

0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 5>If I show over with a boat, you know I

0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:52.800
<v Speaker 5>ain't got boat money. You put up to that apartment

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 5>complex with a boat, like, man, I know you have

0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 5>boat money. Oh, bro, Now you gotta explain to somebody.

0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.200
<v Speaker 5>Let them win something. Then they come out with this

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 5>catare whatever it's called. And then now you just got

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:04.640
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of apartment people with shit that they don't

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:05.360
<v Speaker 5>know how to use.

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 3>And these are liabilities.

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Because they're like, I'm gonna snitch on you if you

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 1>don't let me keep the whole prize, because now what

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:13.279
<v Speaker 1>is your hold on them? Before they were in on

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the grid, But now that they know the government on

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the your ass, they're like, listen, you either let me

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:19.479
<v Speaker 1>keep the full two hundred k or I'm calling ninety

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 1>one one.

0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling everybody. I'm telling everybody aving lived with his mama,

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 4>how he got a jet ski.

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:27.759
<v Speaker 3>He's talking about, we're going to the beach. He gonna

0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 3>give us all a.

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:32.960
<v Speaker 4>Rod, we go on to the beach. We live in Nashville.

0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 3>There's no beaches beach here.

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 1>They were like, look, Chuck, Steve, if y'all don't let

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:40.479
<v Speaker 1>me keep all this prize money, I'm gonna start mailing

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 1>out letters. Okay, it's gonna take three or five business days,

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 1>but people gonna know your business. They're gonna know you're

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:49.440
<v Speaker 1>up to they're gonna know you're up to something shady.

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So as they ran through their roster of friends to

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 1>be winners, they called them more questionable people because now

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the homies who used to do it. They're not giving

0:56:58.040 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the prize money, so now they're just going to you know,

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 1>back to the parking lot to find whoever's questionable, which

0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 1>led to the posers actually winning the competition and making

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 1>off with the prizes before CBS could demand their cut.

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:10.880
<v Speaker 1>So even now like everyone's taking their cut and being

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:14.839
<v Speaker 1>like fuck CBS, Chuck became more frustrated and unpredictable, even

0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 1>removing Stephen from company accounts and threatening his family when

0:57:17.680 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 1>he spoke about it. So again, just like the wedding

0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:23.600
<v Speaker 1>photographer pulling up threatening, I.

0:57:23.640 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Mean, what you really gonna do exactly?

0:57:27.000 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean, if I'm all win fifty thous and then

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying I'm keeping fifteen to go. I think I'm

0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 5>gonna keep this fifty thout or what you really gonna do?

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Who gonna check me?

0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 5>Boo, you take me to court, lets you send some

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 5>people after me. But I got fifty thous Now I

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 5>can hire protection for a little bit.

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Chuck should have invested in the mob, but then

0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:48.640
<v Speaker 1>he would have had even more money taken from him

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 1>because they're gonna get there.

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:50.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:54.040
<v Speaker 1>So, in nineteen eighty eight, with mounting lawsuits from former

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 1>employees and clients Chuck's unpredictable behavior. Steve left CBS and

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:01.880
<v Speaker 1>started his own promotions company with Lewis. So now Chuck

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 1>left CBS and then took the kid from the parking

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>lot who had called the Feds and made his own company.

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:08.919
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't seem smart.

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 4>No, Lowis girlfriend did that. Louis probably didn't know nothing

0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:12.479
<v Speaker 4>about that. That was Lewis Booth.

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're already making weird moves. Why is your

0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 1>booth selling you out? I mean you can't get her

0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:18.720
<v Speaker 1>another for Valancie?

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 5>She probably well, no, you know what it was, because

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:23.520
<v Speaker 5>she died in the plane crash two days later, wasn't it?

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 5>Or two weeks later.

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 1>No, she died a plane crash in two thousand and two,

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:29.479
<v Speaker 1>so she was very much alive at this point.

0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh oh oh, I'm sorry to continue.

0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:33.280
<v Speaker 3>That was just a detail Kaitlyn gave us.

0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:36.760
<v Speaker 1>So. Not long after, Agent Smyers, the hater who's been snooping,

0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was able to track down the hypnotus James and kung

0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 1>fu master Anthony Woo. He gathered enough information to show

0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 1>CBS had been illegally rigging the games, and you're and

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a half later Chuck, Steve, James, Anthony, and Lewis were

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:53.040
<v Speaker 1>officially charged with mail fraud. Mail Fred is that's how

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 1>they get you. It's a bitch with sentences up to

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty years. You can't do fraud in the mail, y'all.

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 1>You gotta walk to their door, hand it to them.

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:02.120
<v Speaker 1>That's how you do Fried. Don't put your frid in usps.

0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:05.920
<v Speaker 1>They will come get you. Okay, they got them forever stamps.

0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:08.840
<v Speaker 4>That's for your's Federal Yeah.

0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 3>No, you don't mess with them.

0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:13.880
<v Speaker 1>So they were collectively estimated to have won around two

0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:16.800
<v Speaker 1>million dollars five million dollars in today's money in cash

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<v Speaker 1>prizes after admitting to taking LSD four hundred times. During proceedings,

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck pleaded guilty. What you at court on LSD?

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<v Speaker 4>What Chuck? Chuck?

0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:34.360
<v Speaker 5>Chuck is an American hero against all odds against dropping

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<v Speaker 5>out of high school and then get introduced to crack

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<v Speaker 5>and met and then working his way up to scam

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<v Speaker 5>getting I mean he lasted way long the Indian I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're gonna go down, go down the flames. And

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<v Speaker 5>then he was in the courtroom like I don't look me,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't I'm high right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to like a poster'll talking about Chuck.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how he played guilty. I would I would retract that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, I was high on LSD when I

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<v Speaker 1>played guilty. I didn't even know what you were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So Steven also played guilty while James and Anthony and

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis I was guilty.

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<v Speaker 4>I was hypnotized. Talk to James, I've been hypnotized this

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<v Speaker 4>whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me to scam and then he never gave

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<v Speaker 1>me the magic word so I could stop. He never

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<v Speaker 1>said you feel me, So that's why I was scamming.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I love that Anthony, Lewis and James were

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<v Speaker 1>like we innocent, and they were like, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try out to fight this, and they were like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to jail.

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<v Speaker 3>You're definitely guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>So the latter were sentenced to five years probation in

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<v Speaker 1>order to pay thousands of dollars in restitutions. So James,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony and Lewis only got five years of probation. They

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<v Speaker 1>just had to pick up trash, which means they definitely snitched.

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<v Speaker 1>They went in there and just started listinglip love that

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing more flips than Simone Biles.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, it's hard to go to like

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<v Speaker 5>real prison for something federal when you mail come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nah, I would have flipped too. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>how many names y'all want? If my mama got unpaid

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<v Speaker 1>parking tickets?

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 3>How much do you need?

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<v Speaker 4>Get me out of here, Give me a penny piece

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<v Speaker 4>of paper, A big maggots and fries. I got write down, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't go to real prison.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we're not going to prison prison.

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<v Speaker 1>So Stephen and Chuck were ordered to pay more than

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars of restitution to the companies that they

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<v Speaker 1>had ripped off, and both were sentenced to two years

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<v Speaker 1>in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Both were permanently banned from the sweep sex industry, But

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<v Speaker 1>by the time Chuck was sent to prison in nineteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 1>he had set up a new company and ran a

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<v Speaker 1>number of competitions for his old client, Donald Trump. Y'all

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<v Speaker 1>both criminals, y'all, both scammers. It seems like a good partnership,

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<v Speaker 1>fake recognized faith.

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<v Speaker 5>I told you, I'm impressed. As much as I hate

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<v Speaker 5>these people, they know how to do wrong right they do.

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<v Speaker 4>Once again, I love Chuck.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a very good guy. He's just visiting jail for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of year.

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<v Speaker 4>I never heard of him, never heard of him that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, that's what it would be like.

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<v Speaker 5>I never met the guy, Chuck. It sounds like something

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<v Speaker 5>I had for lunch when I was eight. I've never

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<v Speaker 5>heard of him.

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<v Speaker 3>You're true, that's exactly what would happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So the industry almost immediately died down after Craft mistakenly

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<v Speaker 1>printed five hundred thousand winning tickets for one of its

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<v Speaker 1>campaigns instead of one, resulting in four million dollars of compensation.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn I was not buying singles at this time.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't alive, damn it.

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<v Speaker 1>So James has since made a career as a Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas hypnotist, specializing and hypnotizing NBA players struggling with confidence problems.

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<v Speaker 4>What for the league? James, I was like, I need

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<v Speaker 4>to go. I need to get out of scam business

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<v Speaker 4>and go do the lawyer's work through magic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like Shacks. He's like, you're gonna make the free throws.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna make the free throws.

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<v Speaker 4>My, oh, my cowboys kicker who couldn't make these field goals?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a cowboysy Cowboys fan.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so you love pain.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a it's a hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Get your hopes up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an abusive relationship. It's all emotional abuse. But it happened.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Jerry coming out trying to keep the black

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<v Speaker 1>people from going to school. I was like, Jerry, no West,

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<v Speaker 1>cool lord, not you in the black and white photos

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<v Speaker 1>doing the we're doing. We figured you was a racist, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, like quiet, what olden racism I get? But come on, man,

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<v Speaker 4>burn these pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro right, you got so much money. We got new stadiums,

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<v Speaker 1>even though we haven't won a super Bowl. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was a Cowboys mini camp when I was five, by

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of me in the uniform, like my.

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<v Speaker 5>First it's my first started jacket. Was was it nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>ninety two? Actually I had to pro start it. I

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<v Speaker 5>just got the real starter two years ago for Christmas,

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<v Speaker 5>like like to throwback from like a consignment venture store.

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<v Speaker 5>So yes, I've been I've been on. I've been on

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<v Speaker 5>for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, our scam being scammed by loving the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 4>So absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen went on to own a Philadelphia strip club called

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<v Speaker 1>day Dreams. All right, everyone, Stephen has had many careers.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a serial entrepreneur, and I love that for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He was selling panties, cars, scam ruboffs, and now he's

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<v Speaker 1>owning the strip club.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Stephen.

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<v Speaker 1>So Anthony was able to expand his kung fu operations

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen other states.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, options, that's what I'm talking. Yeah, that's how you

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<v Speaker 4>say that. Kong Fu operations. Hell, you better have you LLC.

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<v Speaker 3>It's giving LLC Twitter. It truly is kung Fu.

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<v Speaker 4>Operation, kung Fu operations.

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<v Speaker 3>He went out and bought a bunch of different colored

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<v Speaker 3>belts and said, let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>He been.

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<v Speaker 5>He've been out there, like on the power poles. Hey man,

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<v Speaker 5>my cable working. Soon as I finished this set.

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<v Speaker 3>He can break a cable bus a half with his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids are like, why don't we have one? He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>now y'all better break these cable boxes.

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<v Speaker 5>He been here trying to point like they're gonna take

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<v Speaker 5>this poll out of two weeks. Now, give me eight hours.

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<v Speaker 3>I get this shit down, just keeps shopping away at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I also feel like at his kung fu schools, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just like white belt and then yellow or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like white belt cream belt off cream. He's like

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<v Speaker 1>he's been him coming back.

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<v Speaker 5>You have reached zebra belt. Okay, man, ain't no zebra

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<v Speaker 5>bels around here. What kind of school is it?

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<v Speaker 4>What kind of karate school is this?

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<v Speaker 1>You got cheetah belt? Okay, you're so close to black.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep working and keep coming and paying for my kungs.

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<v Speaker 5>Trying to make you an animal with an animal with discipline,

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<v Speaker 5>I think. Okay, Anthony, next week we open in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, stopping Anthony.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a new location. It was cass the corn Belt.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, all of this was taking place in New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes absolute sense. So after prison, Chuck developed an

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<v Speaker 1>internet scratch off game and even partner with Microsoft to

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<v Speaker 1>run them. I love the Chuck can't lose Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Gates.

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<v Speaker 4>This give me a real catch me If you can't,

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>He did a little stint in jail. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>your resume has a gap.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, oh, yeah, I took I took two

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<v Speaker 1>years off to find myself in general prison.

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<v Speaker 3>That's quiet, frost, silent.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what you're doing. I'm the best baby,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I took some time to work out read you know,

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<v Speaker 3>be on in the yard.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo, if you could scam people this long. You got

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<v Speaker 4>to be the best, truly.

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<v Speaker 1>So he passed away in August of two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>nine from liver cancer. Donald Trump continued to use sweepstakes

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<v Speaker 1>in his political campaigns, promising a chance to win a

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<v Speaker 1>dinner with President Donald Trump in New Orleans for donations

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<v Speaker 1>of any amount not you doing the dinner with Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Z Donald Trump. However, no winner was ever announced, and

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<v Speaker 1>a Trump representative said there had been an administrative error.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what was that error?

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<v Speaker 4>Fraud?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start to I'm gonna start celeffict. Shouldn't be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all didn't get the stuff. There was an administrative error.

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<v Speaker 1>We forgot to administrate the stuff that we told you

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<v Speaker 1>you would gain.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been buying stuff on what's the website? I've been

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<v Speaker 4>buying stuff on what's the one where people make stuff

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<v Speaker 4>at home and then you.

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<v Speaker 5>Buy it et Etsy. Yeah, the bought my dog a

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<v Speaker 5>collar three times. Because the people call me back, I

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<v Speaker 5>ain't gonna I forgot about it. I'm like, give my

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<v Speaker 5>money back.

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<v Speaker 4>Then? Why because you didn't make what we agreed on,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>But why they gave you the gym membership like.

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<v Speaker 5>You?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you didn't get what I said. I was what

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<v Speaker 3>you were supposed to.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what you did.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't do what you supposed were viving. Weld mail us,

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<v Speaker 3>mail us a letter and tell us what we.

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<v Speaker 4>Did, because you know, I ain't write no goddamn letter.

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<v Speaker 4>You know I ain't write no letter.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to the post office. That's what we did in writing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what suits you the money back? Okay, Well

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<v Speaker 1>that brings us to the satisfy of the show, the

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<v Speaker 1>part where I have to let tone go. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we do that, a quick scammer of the week. This

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<v Speaker 1>is where we highlighted Charlotte and worthy of our praise

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<v Speaker 1>are maybe not? And today we're talking about nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old Madison Russo who's been caught after scamming thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars from forty nine concerned donors after falsely claiming

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<v Speaker 1>she had pancreatic cancer. So Maddie was arrested on January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty third on first degree felony theft.

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<v Speaker 3>This teenager, Oh she's a teenager. Oh let her free.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a kid. She is playing on the internet. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>it's not giving teenager.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that's a hard ship face. That's why people donate,

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<v Speaker 5>They're like, she must have it rough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's giving. She's been living hard.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a that's a lot of ware.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So she documented her cancer in quotes battle on TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>and threw her go fundme page and claimed to have

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<v Speaker 1>had a tumor the size of a football wrapped around

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<v Speaker 1>her spine. Content warning, this girl is wearing an offensive

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<v Speaker 1>amount of tanner.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, can I'll kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>She is wearing a lot of tanner and it might

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<v Speaker 1>be contributing to her old age. Look, it's giving fruit leather.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, see listen if you saw Charlie and

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<v Speaker 3>the Chocolate factory and you were like, that's my little.

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<v Speaker 5>Face face, Like you know when a car dripping oil

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<v Speaker 5>and they pull out a parking spot but it's rained

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<v Speaker 5>and they had like that rainbow.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what trash shot kids, but she scammed

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<v Speaker 1>people very serious disease. So yeah, it s fucked them

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<v Speaker 1>kids for this one. So she also claimed to have

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<v Speaker 1>given talks about her health at events for the National

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<v Speaker 1>Pancreotic Cancer Foundation, which the foundation denies. So she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just doing a speaking engagement.

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<v Speaker 3>Well we couldn't video in there. It was no cameras.

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<v Speaker 4>Face like a raw cinebun like it just got all

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<v Speaker 4>of it, but it ain't been baked yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's a perfect description. And it's tearing me apart.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love this mud shot because her eyes are

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<v Speaker 1>so wide.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, dang, they got it, they got it. It

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<v Speaker 3>looks like she startled.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like they snatched her from wherever she was

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<v Speaker 1>and immediately made her take a photo.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she's still in shock that she got caught.

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<v Speaker 4>Nowe she got halfway through a makeup right, she was

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<v Speaker 4>probably on.

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok beating her face talking about her fake cancer, like

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<v Speaker 1>like how it hurts today?

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<v Speaker 4>Like what girl, she didn't get below the nose all

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<v Speaker 4>that raw?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, we're given two different skin tones they got.

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<v Speaker 1>They call her mid bronzer for sure. They were like,

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<v Speaker 1>hands up, put the bronzer down, put.

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<v Speaker 4>Drop, then.

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<v Speaker 3>Drop the beauty blender. Put your hands in the air,

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<v Speaker 3>lay on your face.

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<v Speaker 1>So Maddie began to be discovered in early January when

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses claiming to be medical professionals anonymously contacted authorities saying

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<v Speaker 1>they believe there'd be many medical discrepancies in her social

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<v Speaker 1>media posts. Now Google is free, Maddie, why did you

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<v Speaker 1>google this? This included incorrectly and potentially life threatening use

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<v Speaker 1>of medical equipment, in addition to it allegedly stealing photos

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<v Speaker 1>from actual cancer patients and posting them as her own.

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<v Speaker 1>The gofam me page was still taking donations until it

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<v Speaker 1>was taken down in late January with a message Maddie

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<v Speaker 1>is currently undergoing vigorous chemotherapy and radiation treatments that are

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<v Speaker 1>making her very sick. Meanwhile, it was like Maddie is

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<v Speaker 1>has transferred these funds to her Bag of America, so

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<v Speaker 1>all donors will be refunded and Maddie is permanently banned

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<v Speaker 1>from the platform. She was released on a ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars bond hours after her rest, and it is currently

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<v Speaker 1>a waiting court. I don't know if we put Maddie

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<v Speaker 1>in jail for a fake go fund me. I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that platform. You gotta know that maybe when.

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<v Speaker 3>You give your ten sympathy dollars, they're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>the right place. Who gives a shit?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think look, maybe not prison, but she should have

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<v Speaker 5>to go teach something to inner city school with people

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<v Speaker 5>to come teach.

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<v Speaker 3>She just go, you want to stick this person on us?

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<v Speaker 5>No in person, in person and just let these You

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<v Speaker 5>know how rude high schoolers are. Now they give her hell.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>They gonna snap so hard that I mean, her emotions,

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<v Speaker 5>her insides feel you can feel like she had a too,

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<v Speaker 5>was gonna feel like it's gonna feel like she had

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<v Speaker 5>a tumor. By the time these high school kids get

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<v Speaker 5>done when it let them have their cell phones and TikTok,

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<v Speaker 5>they ruin her ego.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what that's what they should do.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, youplicano, oh two, I mean you definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>Needs community service and something that's productive. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if I would say jail.

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<v Speaker 1>But also uh not pictured here, but I saw photos

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<v Speaker 1>about this when I saw the story, she was using

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<v Speaker 1>medical equipment and like taping fake things to her chest

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<v Speaker 1>and like really, when I say she was giving cosplay

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<v Speaker 1>like she was in the hospital, she really sold it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why you should have a licensue. I mean, because

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<v Speaker 5>you can go get it. If she go to a

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<v Speaker 5>medicical medical supply store, were wearing scrubs, somebody gonna sell

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<v Speaker 5>it to it.

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<v Speaker 4>And she just changed clothes and put a gown on.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't be trusting these pictures, man, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You can buy hospital gowns all willy nilly. You're right

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<v Speaker 1>about that, you know how people look at She keeped

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<v Speaker 1>it to her face. She got a pair of cord

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone phone hands are stuck them.

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<v Speaker 4>Deep and we can't tell. She just she just she

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<v Speaker 4>just out here like this.

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<v Speaker 5>She just y'all can't see me at home, but she

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<v Speaker 5>just out here and she's like, oh wait, wait, let

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<v Speaker 5>me talk it in wait was that as the door?

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<v Speaker 4>Let me talk it it? Let me talking it deside?

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<v Speaker 4>There we go? Do I look sick? Do I look sick?

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<v Speaker 4>That's sad man.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, who are her friends and family?

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<v Speaker 1>She has good friends and family because they did not snitch,

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<v Speaker 1>and clearly they would know if she was in treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>The medical professional snitched on her on TikTok now her

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<v Speaker 1>mama and her daddy not any friends. She got a

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<v Speaker 1>loyal community and circle, unlike Chuck and Steve.

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder if her parents are around. What her mama say,

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<v Speaker 5>they got some quote from my mom or something down there?

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<v Speaker 5>What her mama say, I know your mom was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know her, Like Maddie's always been distant with

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<v Speaker 5>mental health, like, come on man.

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<v Speaker 1>Maddie agreed there also, why would you think that you

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<v Speaker 1>could go this public, especially TikTok. That's where the girls

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<v Speaker 1>are like gonna research you, They're gonna be in the comments.

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<v Speaker 1>They got all the terminology for every illness disease.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would you think? And they love to be detectives. TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>People love to be like, oh y'all can't solve this

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<v Speaker 3>cold case, I will.

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<v Speaker 5>Tiktak ain't nothing but social saluts. That's exactly what they are.

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<v Speaker 5>That's exactly what they are. I want how you get

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<v Speaker 5>did you say?

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<v Speaker 4>How she got called? How'd you get caught? Again?

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<v Speaker 1>It was medical professionals starting to tip off, like the

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<v Speaker 1>police and stuff, because they were like, none of this

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<v Speaker 1>is adding up, and these photos they're reverse image searching

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<v Speaker 1>and realizing they're not her photos.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, TikTok is a Harriet the spy app.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go on their line because they got magnifying glasses

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<v Speaker 1>and they will find you. They will find you, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they'll make their own tiktoks about you.

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<v Speaker 4>You shouldn't even have as much energy within this state

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<v Speaker 4>to put a TikTok like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Madison. I hope you don't have to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the clink, but I hope you learned your lesson. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Madison's done. If you lie that hard you went

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<v Speaker 1>on Amazon and brought you some medical equipment, She's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like Chuck. She'll continue doing And.

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<v Speaker 4>It's probably round one.

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<v Speaker 5>This is probably she probably did a soft one just

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<v Speaker 5>to open up, and then this one took off quicker

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<v Speaker 5>than she could like shut it down.

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<v Speaker 3>Soft loge scam.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm telling you. I'm telling you that's how I

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<v Speaker 4>would have done it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you are an expert that we got an expert

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<v Speaker 3>on the book.

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<v Speaker 5>Expert, ex expert, ex expert. I never did stuff with

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<v Speaker 5>it with the computers, with the computers. I never did

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<v Speaker 5>stuff with the computer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, no, and allegedly did other stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know what. You know what.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you did anything.

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<v Speaker 1>These days, truly allegedly allegedly. And that brings us to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of an amazing podcast. Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom for being here. We always ask our guests where

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<v Speaker 1>would you like to be found? Any socials shows websites?

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<v Speaker 5>With the end all of the watch drink Masses on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 5>I got a new show coming out with Michelle Buea

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<v Speaker 5>and Tasha Smith Coss Survival The Thickest on Netflix out

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<v Speaker 5>in a few months. I'm sure trigger warning Kudi versus

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<v Speaker 5>act me coming out in theaters this summer. Instagram is

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<v Speaker 5>just tone bell t O N E B E O

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<v Speaker 5>L And I just started TikTok. Actually I didn't have

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<v Speaker 5>a TikTok and then so I just got on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to figure that out. Uh, and then I'll

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<v Speaker 5>be out here in the streets just on tour making

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<v Speaker 5>people laugh. So uh yeah, that's that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, that's me, Yes, And it's always gonna stitch on

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<v Speaker 1>your friends and family at Scam got his pod at

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<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you want to find me, d I V

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<v Speaker 3>A l A c I d BA Lacy on all platforms.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to see all of these wild house photos,

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<v Speaker 1>Scam got his pod on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to chat with me, Scam got his

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<v Speaker 3>pod on Twitter. Congregation, stay chucking, you know, get out there,

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<v Speaker 3>get your chuck on, never quit, never stop. Damn gotess.

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<v Speaker 3>This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco.

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<v Speaker 1>Scam got his stars and it's hosted by me Lacey

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<v Speaker 1>Mosley aka the scam Goddess. Our producer is Judith Kargbo,

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<v Speaker 1>our recording engineer is Abby Aguilar, and our audio editor

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<v Speaker 1>is Jesse Karen.

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