WEBVTT - It’s Now or Never with Randall and Jake from The Ultimatum 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.320 Hell, I Suck at Dating with de Younglert and Dared 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:11.360 Haven and I heard radio podcast. Hello everyone, welcome to 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:15.840 help I Suck at Dating. Course. Dean and myself are here. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.280 We are joined by the beautiful Serena Pitt, who decided 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.919 to put up with us for another episode, which we're 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.639 very grateful for. And we have two very special guests 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.200 who are currently on the line right now from the 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:32.000 brand new Netflix series The Ultimatum, Mary or move On, 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.760 We have Randall Griffin and Jake Cunningham. Gentlemen, how you 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:39.000 doing today? Do? Pretty good? Man? Pretty good? Pretty good? 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:44.720 So obviously this show is gonna be huge. The Ultimatum. Uh, 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:49.080 it's a crazy, crazy premise. It just premiered on Wednesday. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.800 Uh so well here, let's let's hear from the horse's mouth, 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.040 Jake and Randall. Jake, why don't you go first? Tell 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.480 us a little bit about the show and why you 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.200 got yourself involved in it. I mean it crazy, honestly. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:07.200 I didn't want to do it April. Uh. I did 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.800 it for April. But it was crazy, man. A whole 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.840 lot of emotions, a lot of everything was fast paced. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.280 Things were switching up left and right, and it was 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.520 just there was a lot to deal with. But UM, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.440 I think everybody got what they needed out of it 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:23.560 in the end. So yeah, so you guys, we guys 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.520 feel used on the concept of the show. Yeah. So basically, 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.680 the altimatum is the concept overall is just UM. Two Obviously, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.160 couples come onto the show UM. One obviously not willing 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.440 to come like Jake said, but the other giving the 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.520 person an altimatum because they're both at a crossroads. Either 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.240 they've been dating too long or one person just thinks 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.920 they're they're ready while the other person doesn't. UM. So 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:52.640 the whole concept is crazy because throughout these six to 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.760 eight weeks, three weeks will be living with a whole 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.800 new person, somebody E've never met before. UM. And during 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.320 that first week of us going throughout the front that 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.480 we're dating so many people, trying to see who is 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.920 the perfect match for us during this experience, UM, hoping 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.680 to get the clarity that we need UM. And ultimately 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.560 we have to decide if you want to stay with 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.440 the person we came with, leave with the new person, 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.440 or just go home alone. And it definitely is a 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.280 super crazy accelerating process. I don't think Jake and I 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.640 were ready for at all? How can you be so 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.160 r do we know that Jake didn't want to go? 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:30.799 Did you want to be there? Or how did you 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.360 even get wrapped up in the show in the first place. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.560 I'm gonna be honest, I had no idea that. I 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.560 really don't even know the concept too much. I mean, 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.919 obviously Chanique brought me on the ultimated she gave me 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.160 the ultimatum and was just talking about, Hey, this can 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.160 be a good opportunity for us to kind of strengthen 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.040 our relationship, But I don't think she did too much 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:54.040 research into what we were having to go through um 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.760 in order to do that or you know, ultimately break up. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.840 So yeah, when I first got on, I was super 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.680 skeptical and like just weird out, like how is this 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.560 even possible? How is it even gonna work? So that 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.840 was my question when I heard about the show, because 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.600 I was just at a girls weekend and everyone was 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.160 talking about the show and like the structure of it, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.160 and I haven't watched it, but my question was, like, 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.880 when you guys went on this show and you found 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.119 out like how it was all going to work out? 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.400 How much of it was a surprise to you or 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:27.960 did you get there and you're like, yeah, we knew 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:29.840 exactly what we were signing up for. It was going 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:35.120 to be x y z um Jay. How how much 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.920 did you know? I mean I knew. I knew the basically, 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.760 like the most most of the concept of it. UM 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:45.040 didn't really know the ultimatum part. But I knew we 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:49.040 would be like going in um dating these other women men, 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.080 moving in with them for three weeks, and then moving 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.040 back in with our X. So I was pretty comfortable 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.800 um with doing it, but it was it was a 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:01.000 shot when I got on there for sure. Yeah, random, 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.040 I actually didn't know that I would be living with 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.120 somebody for three weeks, so I don't know they gave 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.560 us different information, But in my mind, I'm thinking, Okay, 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.480 we're all going to date each other, and then um, 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.760 I thought we were all living together. That's whine like 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.360 one big happy family. We're all living together, and then 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.479 we're just going to see like okay, like maybe I 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.240 can kind of get these bits and pieces out of 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.160 people to see, Okay, this is what I need to 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.760 work on to be like this or you know, vice versus. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.520 So yeah, so when they dropped that ball with me, 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:35.039 I was like, what so I didn't. Wait, So you 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.400 don't all live in a house together? No, so we 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:42.560 all live we all live in like the first week, um, 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.880 we're dating, well, in the separate hotel rooms, everyone individually. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.919 And then after the week of dating, when the choice happens, 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.920 then we move into apartments like separate apartments. So whoever 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.000 I picked I lived with, um, whoever anyone else? And 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.880 then after those three weeks you move back in with 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:59.599 an apartment with the person who came in there with. 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.599 Did they ever give you, guys a chance to like, 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.440 after they kind of gave you the rundown on what 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:05.640 was going to happen? Did they ever give you a 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:07.640 chance to be like I don't want to do this, 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:15.520 I'm gonna go home. No, it's too late. Answer to 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:19.320 that one. That's so crazy. Well, at least with our shows, 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.440 we kind of have an idea before getting ourselves into 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.640 with something like this. It seems like it's crazy you're 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.479 put on the spot. Well, this sounds like, uh, you 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.040 know for people who are non reality TV show that like, 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.040 it sounds like taking a break. You know, you hear 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:32.840 that a lot of relationships like, hey, let's take a break, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.680 let's see other people and see what it's like. But 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.520 oftentimes that break that you take is not on national television. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:42.200 It's a lot a lot different when it's different. But 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.159 I'm just trying to relate it to the listeners who 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.880 are obviously not gonna be able to relate to beyond 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:50.440 national television. But my point being is that without spoiling anything, 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.839 because I know that the finale hasn't aired and there 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.760 is a reunion right right, so via finale and the 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.720 reunion are airing. Have you guys own the reunion that 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.919 can you say that? Okay, so you have filmed the reunion, 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.680 But my question to you is, without spoiling anything, do 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:13.520 you think that this overall can strengthen the relationship? Don't? 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.039 I don't want to know about the ultimatum. Want to 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.520 know because a lot of people are saying, Hey, you know, 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.880 I'm with someone. Do you think by us taking a 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.120 break and coming back together that our relationship can strengthen 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.920 from that? Do you think it can? I think it can. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:31.440 And I'm just speaking off of just my perspective right now, because, uh, 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.960 I think you you learn more about yourself individually than 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.400 you do, like just as a couple obviously, So I 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.599 think coming back together, if you learn about yourself a 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.359 lot and that person does as well, then it ultimately 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.640 does make things a lot stronger hopefully better. So I 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:53.920 think it can, but it also could go like, yeah, 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.040 it could definitely go both ways because there's like no 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:01.560 relationship came off the show happy, like those questions. Everything 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.680 was those concerns with everyone, But the true test is 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.080 who actually can get back together and end up in 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:11.240 the long run. So it could go both ways. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.240 we talked about it a little bit earlier on the 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.160 podcast before you guys got here that uh, sometimes it's 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.480 it's not just love that can keep you in a relationship. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.320 So do you think that's uh like that kind of 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.680 got put to the test with these relationships where do 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.559 you guys love each other but it might not work 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.240 like practically speaking or um, Like, what what were like 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:30.640 the main issues that you guys were dealing with on 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:35.120 the show, do you think? Yeah? I think there throughout 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.400 filming we were always put through tests things to talk about, 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.200 things that we might be insecure to talk about on 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.280 a regular day, but obviously we kind of have to 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:50.200 be more vulnerable. Um. But yeah, I think in some instances, 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.800 you can love somebody so much but also realize that 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.280 that might not be the person for you. And going 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.679 on this show, we met so so many great people, 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.080 great women on the show that we're like, you know, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.400 it makes you think like, wow, damn, could I see 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.680 myself actually being with this person over this person that 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.200 I came here with. It was crazy because you're sitting 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.080 in your room just thinking like am I wrong for 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.880 thinking this? And it was like a whole uh, I 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:16.040 don't know if I can custom right now. I was 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:21.200 gonna say mine, Okay, it was a mine because you 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.480 just never you've never been through anything like this before, 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.720 and the process was so accelerated that you really had 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.600 to put yourself on the line and open up so 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.120 much um to try to get the most out of 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.880 the experience. I think the big thing too, was that 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.080 we were living with somebody else and you weren't. You 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:39.920 didn't know what was going on with the person you 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.280 have been with for two years and not knowing that 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.680 and and trying to figure out like how this is 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.040 going versus how is that? It was just a big 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.880 Like Randall said, money, that's all I can think about, 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:52.560 especially you're just sitting there and all you can do 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.040 is just think about every possible scenario. It really does 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.080 mess with your head a lot. Jake, So you said 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:58.680 you but you were in a relationship for two years 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.600 before going on the show. Uh, did you guys talk 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.720 about because I imagine the ultimatum comes down to marriage 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.679 right in most cases? Well yeah, we found that out 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.440 where he got on there. But yeah, yeah, so did 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.720 you guys talk about marriage it all before? Within the 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.560 two years before going on is I actually had um 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:23.080 an engagement planned out. We were like a whole bunch 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:24.719 of stuff, like I was up for kids and all 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.640 that stuff. But um, obviously I'm not going to tell 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.920 that there was an engagement plan. It's supposed to be surprised, 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.360 so kind of just it was funny because we're supposed 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:34.559 to go on a cruise for like two weeks. I 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.080 was supposed to do it there, but it was during filming, 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.480 so I was like, oh my god, I had to 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:46.600 cancel the cruise, had to cancel everything, And oh no, 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:51.760 it sounds like a big swingers club this show pretty much. Yeah, 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:53.920 that's what everyone asked me, Like, what do you think 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:55.720 of the shiners, Like it's just a big swinger party, 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.040 to be honest with you. Yeah, well, hopefully we don't 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.040 see anything that's gets you guys in too much trouble. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.240 Has it been weird watching back the show since since 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:07.760 filming it? Uh? Yeah, I watched We watched it right 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.920 before the Moon Union. We got the only thing we 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:11.880 haven't seen as a Moon union, so we'll see when 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.400 everybody else does. But watching it back, I watched it 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.720 that one time. I haven't watched it since it's I 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.959 don't like seeing myself on a phone camera more or 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:25.839 less on TV, so cringe e just seeing like so 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.800 and then thinking about like, wow, my parents are watching 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.320 this right now. Yeah, yeah, we can relate to that. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.440 I know Netflix, for whatever reason, they like to film 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.719 their shows like two years before it airs. So when 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.120 did this get filmed a year ago? Okay, so that's 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.040 that's not so bad. We've talked to something like too 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.280 Hot to Handle contestants that were like, yeah, we filmed 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.240 in twenty seventeen and it's just getting near it now. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.880 Like I'm exaggerating obviously, but sometimes it's pretty bad. But yeah, 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.840 I can imagine seeing yourself back on TV and then 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:56.640 and then like hearing yourself talk and you're like, allow 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.520 to really sound like that. And then my big thing 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.599 when I was on the bachel Threat was I was 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.720 like drinking a lot, and so I would like get 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.319 wasted and I wouldn't remember what I did, and I 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.040 had watched the show back and I'd be like, I 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.880 said that. I can't believe I said that, Like I 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.120 don't even remember saying that at all. Were you guys 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.160 on the show before the drink limit? Oh? Oh yeah, 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.040 we were pre drink limit. We were the reason to 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.640 drink limit got instituted. Actually funny enough, and it shows 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:25.320 you were there during the shutdown. Yeah. Yeah, And I'll 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.559 tell you what those two seasons were. They were. They 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.600 were absolutely brutal. Was there any Was there any moments 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.360 you guys were like super embarrassed by or just like, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:38.160 let's so we didn't have a drink limit and when 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.199 we moved in with our people, like you open the 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.920 fridge expecting food and you see nothing but alcohol stuff, 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.640 so in our eyes like oh bet, like we're about 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.560 to get lit right now, but then realizing that like, oh, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.080 we're like doing this for the next three weeks. This 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.079 is gonna be this is going to be testy a 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.920 little bit. So I lost so much weight on that show. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.719 Just when we we came out Hartman all there was 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.040 p throne, tequila, whiskey, beer, like everything you can think 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.560 of every time, and ran low and we're off doing 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.640 a scene somewhere, They're come in there and restop it 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.319 and I'm just, oh, like, you really could be nice 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.880 to open the fridge and see like a vegetable one. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.600 So so, how did you lose it just because there 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.719 wasn't enough food for you to eat? Yeah? We just 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.960 it was constantly filming drunk nine of the time and 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:29.120 then not not all that anxiety, all that kind of stuff. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.000 That's how they get you to make those crazy decisions 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.760 for the for the TV and the drama and all 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.480 that kind of stuff. So so did this, like, did 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.400 this whole experience change your vision? I mean, without spoiling anything, 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:43.160 did it change your approach to relationships or how you 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:47.280 feel about relationships at all? Yeah? I think for me, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.920 I feel like it made me way more vulnerable and 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:55.120 open because I'm super closed off, especially when I meet somebody. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.800 And I think before prior to the show, I really 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.960 didn't know how to express my emotions like that. I'm 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.760 think I wasn't the best at that, but being around 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.400 so many different people, like it's almost like it's forced 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.920 out of you. And it's either you're gonna just shut 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.719 down and not get with this experience as the offer, 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.320 or you're gonna like just embrace it. And with me 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.680 embracing gay just realized that, like, Wow, it wasn't that hard. 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.800 You know. It's it's more mental than anything because you're 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:24.200 coming in with somebody you love, um, but then you 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.200 just think about, like, well, I can also like work 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.720 on my character development as well. Yeah how about you Jake? 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.440 Oh yeah, same. It's like because I never like wanted 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.400 the fame, never wanted any of that, so I was 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.440 like kind of reserved. I kind of kept to myself. 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:42.160 I kept my circle close, um, But being on the show, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:47.120 I definitely opened up a lot more. Definitely. Uh, I 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.760 felt better about my decisions and sort of and I 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.640 kind of know what I want now from for future. 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.080 That's good. That's good. So I got I got one 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.800 question for you guys. Uh, well one more question, I guess, 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.480 and to let Jared and Serena asks more. But I've 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.920 got a girlfriend. We're not married, she wants to get married. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.360 Do you think it's wise of me to sit down 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.240 with her and watch this show or should we just 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.400 pretend like it doesn't exist, Like, is it gonna make 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.040 her upset with me? Or will it make her like 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.800 understand the situation a little bit better? I think it 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:20.560 might help you out a little bit too, be honest. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.880 I mean it could go both ways. It could go 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.160 both ways. I want to say it's not going to 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.520 help you out, I think, But what I will say 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.280 is I think once she sees all the drama in 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.560 the fold and she'll realize like, Okay, maybe that wasn't 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:38.880 a good idea, so yeah, is right, she'll be like, hey, 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.760 I think we should see other people as you could 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.640 go on and be like, and you could address all 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.080 those problems that we're having on the show with her 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:50.920 before y'all decided to make that. Yeah. Well, no, I 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.920 agree with you, guys. I do think just being on 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.560 a reality show in general, especially like a relationship show, 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.080 does make you open up a lot more, makes you 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.640 a lot more vulnerable, makes you like understand how to 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.760 commune get your feelings a lot better, which uh for 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.560 me personally. Before I went on I was so I 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.360 still ain't really bad at it, let's be honest, but 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.720 I was so so much worse before going on. And 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.720 then when they sit you in those like interview rooms 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.200 and they're like asking you all these questions like how 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.800 do you feel? What do you think? How does that 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.080 make you react? And you're like you start to like 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.120 actually talk about it, like probably for the first time 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.200 ever in my case at least, Uh it does. It 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:26.120 does lead to a lot of good things after the fact. So, uh, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.320 it sounds like you guys had an interesting experience. I 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.720 don't want to call it good, but uh, you know, 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.600 I haven't seen the finale yet, but we're looking forward 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.480 to watching. I uh, we're we We've been biding a 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.560 lot of episodes of dating shows here in this household, 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.080 so that's the next one on the list for us 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.120 for sure. Sounds yeah, I think you'll do it. I 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.600 know Actuley and I are definitely gonna watch it. But 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.840 the only issue is that what what you guys said. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.680 When we watch it, She's definitely gonna be like this 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.920 something that you want? Do you want to date someone 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.400 completely different than me? And like, no, I don't. I'm 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.720 over it. I'm fine, Like I love you, I want 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.880 to be with you. I mean, she says that stuff. Now, 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.040 let alone if we watch the show about Mary, you 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.920 know people who are either gonna get married to data 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.720 other people. Uh well, I give you guys a lot 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.600 of kudos because, uh yeah, like we talked about earlier, 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.400 the fact that you guys did this on national TV. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.280 That's crazy. But we are certainly excited to watch the show. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.640 I think the first eight episodes are on Netflix right now, 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.120 so everybody can go. I mean everybody has Netflix, so 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.280 just go on Netflix and watch. Everybody's gonna watch it. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.720 Who's listening to this anyway, So definitely check out the 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.360 ultimatum Mary or move on and then make sure you 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.240 binge watched the eight episodes before the finale and the 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:38.760 reunion drop. I think it's April next Wednesday, so a 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.320 little less than a week away. But Randall, Jake, thank 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.240 you so much for coming on. We really appreciate it, 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.520 and uh definitely come back soon. Thank you so much. 0:16:48.560 --> 0:17:02.560 Appreciate it than appreciate it. All Right, that's gonna do 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.320 it for this week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating. 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.879 Big thank you to Jake and Randall be sure to 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:13.600 check them out on the Ultimatum um on Netflix. So 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.760 binge that Serena. We know that you left, well you 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.159 didn't leave the last podcast you were on, you were 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.000 you kind of had a planned exit. But if you 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:23.800 ever want to come back, if you ever want to 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.800 be a permanent fixture on help I suck you dating 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.000 despite the name, We would love to have you as 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.400 often and as many times as you're willing to. Uh So, 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.119 thank you so much for joining us, Thank you for 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.080 having me, guys, I will come back anytime. Well, thank 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:39.720 you nice. We're gonna hold you to that. Best of 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.720 luck with the move, best of luck with the visa. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.760 Most importantly, it sounds like that's the biggest thing kind 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.359 of on on ice here. But well, we'll keep our 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.240 fingers crossed for you, and we can't wait to talk 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.320 to you. I think you're gonna be just fine. Thank you. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:59.480 Whoever they're a Bachelor fan, yeah, maybe they're listening to us. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.720 They can speed up that process a little, dude. Okay, 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.840 before you leave tangent side, nowe, do you guys ever 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.760 go to like the d m V or something and 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.320 you're always like, Okay, I hope I get someone that 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.560 watches a bachelor because maybe they'll be like a little 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.280 bit nicer to me, maybe they'll give me like a 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.680 little bit of a That's much like I'm always hoping, 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.119 like I get a cut, Like Joe will be like, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.000 let's go to the girl. Maybe she's a fan. I 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.360 mean like, yeah, we're not ever doing anything shady, So 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.840 I don't know why you think you maybe get through 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.399 a little faster. I do it in every day of 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.760 my life, like actually, and I would go never know 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.640 what it is, will profile and be like, I think 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.600 she's a bachelor, man, let's go to that one. It's 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:38.639 like my sister called me the other day and she 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:40.280 was trying to book an appointment to get like an 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.480 IVY therapy treatment, and she's like, the chick recognized my 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.640 name when I was booking an appointment for next week. 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:47.280 And she's like, we actually have an appointment today. I 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.119 just saw your name and I know that's exactly what 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:51.840 I'm talking about. That's perfect. And then there are also 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.720 occasions where I will avoid it, Like yesterday I was 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.960 going to Starbucks and there was like ten um you know, 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.280 year old girls standing in line, and I turned around, 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.560 so fast, and I did not even think about stepping 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.080 foot in the Starbucks, Like I don't want to deal 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.200 with this right now. But there are certain instances, yeah, 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.159 like d m V or appointments or um, whatever it 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.320 might be. But that's funny. I'm glad that we're on 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.160 the same page on that. Oh yeah, definitely. There's there's 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.320 advantages that sometimes just come at the right time that 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.920 you're like, you know, this was a magical moment. Yeah, 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:22.440 one day, we're not going to have this advantage, you 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:23.600 know what. I mean to remind as well of you 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.600 guys and abuse it until the day it dies, exactly. 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.119 I tell my friends and take advantage like if you 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.960 can drop my name to help yourself, like please do it. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.680 And then who do you think you are? Like you're 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.160 you're like an elist celebrity, Like we can't use your name. 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.520 That's really selfless of you. I did the exact opposite. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:42.840 My friends are always like, hey, can you just like 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.760 can you like drop your name to to get in 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.800